8:54pm: Reyes' deal does not include a no-trade clause, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets.
8:47pm: The Marlins and Reyes have agreed to a six-year, $106MM deal, pending a physical, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
8:35pm: Mets GM Sandy Alderson addressed the media and confirmed that if the Marlins are offering a six-year, $111MM deal, the Mets won't be able to compete, tweets Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com. Furthermore, the Mets have yet to make a concrete offer to the shortstop, tweets Mike Puma of the NY Post.
8:21pm: Reyes to the Marlins appears to be imminent, but Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun Sentinel (via Twitter) continues to hear that the numbers are less than those being reported.
7:57pm: The Marlins and Reyes are close on a six-year deal, believed to be for $110MM, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
7:49pm: The reported terms of $111MM over six years are definitely not correct, an American League source tells Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun Sentinel (via Twitter). Rodriguez stresses that this doesn't mean that the Marlins aren't closing in on Reyes.
6:37pm: The Marlins came to the meetings with the idea of bumping their offer to Reyes and setting a deadline, but now they've upped the offer so much that they may not need to give the shortstop a deadline, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.
6:29pm: The Mets are now aware of the Marlins $100MM+ offer and are out of the bidding, Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets. Barring a change of heart, it would seem that Reyes is leaving New York. The Mets were willing to go to a five-year deal for $75-85MM with an option for a sixth year to take the deal over $100MM, but felt that they were stretching for the five-year deal and won't extend to a sixth, Sherman tweets.
6:15pm: The Mets have not been alerted yet by the Reyes camp of the reported six-year, $111MM deal and if the numbers are accurate, it would mark a dramatic increase from what the Mets heard 48 hours ago, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter links).
The Mets and Brewers had planned to offer Reyes something in the range of $75-80MM, says Jon Heyman of SI (via Twitter).
5:53pm: The Marlins have offered Jose Reyes a six-year, $111MM deal, a source tells Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com (Spanish link). The deal would pay $106MM for six years with a $22MM option for a seventh season with a $5MM buyout.
This marks a significant increase from Miami's offer a few weeks ago, which was reportedly in the neighborhood of $90MM over six years. It was recently reported that Reyes might be down to just the Marlins and Mets, but the Brewers have also made plans to meet with the shortstop's agents this week.
Rojas' source also says that the Marlins are the favorite to land Albert Pujols if he does not return to St. Louis.
NB
Still seems low for him.
Melvin McMurf
huh? seems like 2 much 2 me
User 4245925809
Money probably better redirected towards Pujols in the case of the marlins, then moving Sanchez as a major trade piece.
They really do not have a major need for a SS and have a speedster in bonifacio. Granted, Reyes is a premier SS and far better with the glove over Ramirez (anyone is) but the pluses with taking that 110+, maybe doubling it up to Pujols and then offering Sanchez who is a major young power bat to say Oakland for one of their SP, along with maybe something else enticing would help the Fish an awful lot more and fix 2 problems at once.
diesel2410
Yeah dude. You must be from Boston, the overpay capital of the world.
flickadave
That’s funny. The way they are bidding against themselves I was thinking it might be Hank or Hal doing the negotiating.
Fizzzay
Wow.
GREGM
As a continuous Marlins fan since 1993 (i even own teal unis), all I can say is thank you Loria for not twisting our luggage again and finally pulling in some big names. Finally we can enjoy in the excitement of big name free agents in our town for seemingly a long period of time. Looking forward to an exciting and hopefully successful 2012 and beyond.
And to all the nay sayers…”na-na na-na naaaaa naaaaaaaaaa” LOL. See ya in April.
Mario Saavedra
Carl Crawford 2.0. Let’s see how much time the happiness lasts (;
Shawnthemon
I wonder how Hanley is going to feel
Kyle Haker
He can come to the Os if he is mad. We can find a spot im sure
BluMule
Or the Jays 😛
RICHARD
If he can convert to Second Base
BluMule
Why can’t Escobar?
renegadeisback
He should accept that and not look back. There is no way a team is beating that offer.
Kyle Haker
for some reason I read the Mariners at first. Phew…
Guest 5886
Yeah, because god for bid they should get a player on that team that knows how to hit..
moulspoker
How is a small market team like the Mets expected to compete with that offer?
Shawnthemon
They should have a sarcastic smile on this or something
BluMule
Comment ended up on wrong one sorry lol
Ron Greenawalt
the mets a small market team . really?
not_brooks
Your sarcasm meter is broken.
tarheels1
I doubt he ever had one…
Tom
Well they’re at least mid market, I mean their payroll is gonna be under 90m probably.
BrandonBochy
Market does not equal payroll, and he was being sarcastic
LiveFastCyYoung
Market does not equal budget. Mets are in the largest market in baseball.
Guest 5894
I’ll be pretty shocked if he doesn’t accept that offer (if it’s accurate). I can’t see the Brewers topping it. And it doesn’t sound like the Mets can afford to match it.
omgitscorey
They’ll regret that.
Ryan
Why would they regret that?
They are going to be paying him $18.5 mil/season. With a win on the open market going for about $5 million, they would be paying him for a 3.7 WAR/season. He has been above 5.8 WAR in 4 of the last 6 seasons. He’s also averaged 4.5 WAR the past 2 seasons and is still in his prime.
I think he is probably the best value out of all the high priced FA out there and the Marlins are getting a discount because of his recent injuries. The kicker is even including the injuries, he has still been better than Fielder and will cost 40-50 million less.
Joveoak
It’s Reyes’s history with the Disabled List. I’m hoping that’s what he’s meaning with that.
Paul Shailor
Well hes a selfish pos who only cares about himself, oh and the whole injuries to his LEGS! Within 2 years this deal is like soriano.
Ryan
I probably shouldn’t even waste my time since you have a personal problem with Reyes and will never change your mind about him, but I highly doubt Soriano is a good comparison. While they both signed for similar average salary, Soriano’s contract was for 8 years, instead of 6. He also was 3 years older and a worse player who had already been moved to non premium position in LF.
Tom Leslie
Ozzie is going to want to know why they’ll offer $20 million a year to get Reyes but only a minor league pitcher to get him.
John 87
No he’s not.
$4555515
about 18 mill a year on average…dont get me wrong the guys is a top 5 talent but seems like alot for a guy who cant stay healthy for the majority of the season
bravesdude
295 games over the last three seasons out of the 486 played . Way too ,uch money for someone who has missed time over each of the last three seasons .
Guest 5893
Wonder if they’ll up their offers to Pujols and/or Buehrle now?
I have no idea what kind of budget they’re working with. But they clearly mean business this offseason.
jljr222
LOL, go on and have him.
renegadeisback
I’d rather have Jeter!
jljr222
Better than Jeter in his prime? No. Has the year on year consistency that Jeter has portrayed throughout his career? No. Better than Jeter now at age 37? I would hope so with Reyes being 28 years old. Your immediate anti-Yankee statement holds no weight here. That doesn’t change the fact the offer for Reyes is ridiculously funny.
I like how you also changed your statement to “I’d rather have Jeter!” from “Better than Jeter!”
renegadeisback
Compared to 3/50 to Jeter, it’s a bargain.
jljr222
AAV of 18.5 to an AAV of 16.6? Even if Jeter is older and declining, he is still a solid player.
Shawnthemon
Solid Player getting paid Superstar money, but Jeters contract isn’t bad, he creates revenue for the team despite his playing ability
cacavolante
and a yankee fan mocking another team for overpaying a player is also ridiculously funny…
jljr222
I found it funny for Mets fans with hopes he might return and now, more than likely, have no chance. The rest of the discussion is revolving renegadeisback’s initial comment of “Better than Jeter!”. But you’re right, the Yankees overpay more than most.
John 87
Your face is ridiculously funny
John08Patriot
Crazy, unless you’re in business as an assisted living provider.
JacksTigers
Why are they bidding against themselves? The Mets offer wasn’t that good.
slider32
The Marlins saw that Reyes agent was going to talk to the Brewers, so they up there offer. I don’t think the Brewers will top this offer. Reyes signs with the Marlins tomarrow.
JacksTigers
He’ll wait until Thursday I’m sure. But I’m not buying this offer. It just doesn’t make sense.
bravesdude
If it is true , I think it’s just the Marlins wanting to add a big name from this offseason to cover their tails because of building that new stadium knowing that their attendance was ridiculously low last year . Because of his injuries the last three years , I don’t think tha he deserves what they are offering him . If he was injured last year or just the year before and played most if not all this last year and performed like he did , then maybe .
JacksTigers
And they are assuming that they will have a higher attendance. While I’m sure Reyes and a new stadium will help, maybe Miami just isn’t a baseball town. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
bravesdude
Yep . And thats a big assumption on their part . Their FO may want to hold on to some of that extra money they have to compensate for the lack of attendance that they are assuming will show up for the ENTIRE season .
John Michael Bryant
Because you know what other factors are at play besides what you read on websites, right?
JacksTigers
I go on what I know. You are now assuming that there is something else. Pleas shine your wisdom on me of what else you have heard. Knowledge > Assumptions
Guest 5891
If this offer is legit… which I have my doubts.. I’d say it’s that the Marlins HAVE to outbid the Mets, as Reyes would prefer to stay there.. and the Mets would have probably upped there offer to 6 years @ 16.25 million (or something along those lines) if it meant getting Reyes. And… you never know what the Brewers were up to. But as I said… I have my doubts about this offer… They might just be ensuring they make a splash though…
elscorchot
doubts or not, it is done. official!
DannyLeibs
Sadness. No way the Mets match this offer
ChiefW4
it’s both Sadness and happiness. This is a Jayson Werth type deal, and the deal hasn’t been inked yet, though I believe it will be. If it’s truly at
106M for 6 years, the Marlins will be paying a much slowed Jose Reyes with bad Hamstrings $18 million/year when he’s 32, 33, and 34. It’s a STUPID signing and Reyes isn’t worth it. I’m glad the Mets didn’t pay it. Reyes has already had his career years, will never hit anywhere near .337 again, STILL can’t take a walk, is excellent defensively, but not a GG player, and I’d much rather see the Mets keep that money to pay Duda, Davis, Wheeler, Harvey, Famlia, Mejia, possibly Neiuwenhuis, and Lutz, and other impressive rookies as they come up.That being said, I DO think this will hurt the Mets FAR FAR more than Alderson imagined. It’s a public relations nightmare for the Mets because i’m sure i’m not the ONLY one who now expects the Mets to be a 60-100 team for the next several years, without even the chance of competing.
If anything, this shows me Alderson is out of his depth in New York. I sure as hell won’t be paying the $135/year to be able to watch all the Mets games over the internet again this year, or in any year in the near future. Maybe Wilpon is trying to bankrupt the Mets as he’s now lost the single player which drew fans. IMO, Alderson’s grade goes from a B- to a D+ as the gen. mngr. The Wilpons, if they COULD go lower than a grade F as owners, certainly would have done so. The Wilpons get a grade H for Hopeless, as opposed to just as F for Failure.
yt
if true, looks like the marlins have a new starting ss and leadoff hitter.
omgitscorey
Hanley isn’t moving from SS. He’s already said he wouldn’t.
Matthew T
I’m pretty sure he amended that statement and said he would play wherever they needed him, maybe someone can provide a source on the latest.
yt
that’s even dumber than jeter’s refusal to move over for arod.
MB923
That was Steinbrenner and Cashman’s call, not Jeter’s. Jeter might be an OFer in 2 years
KyleB
I would love to see that
MB923
Well I did say might be. If I had to bet on it I’d say no.
windycitywarrior
Would it be impossible for Jeter to move to third so A Rod can DH? Im not a Yankee fan and dont know Jeters limitations. Does he need more arm strength? Not sure just wondering. I would think that they would want to protect their investment with A Rod and not have him play the field and risk injuries. I think they paid him that money for the bats and HRS than his average glove work.
Guest 5892
It’s not Hanley’s call. There’s nothing in his contract that guarantees him the SS position. He’ll either do what management believes is best for the team, or wind up on the restricted list.
yt
or traded to the blue jays. heyooooooooo
Guest 5889
Yeah. Or traded. Although I’m not sure who’d want him at this point, unless the Marlins ate a big chunk of his remaining salary.
yt
the land of misfit prospects…aka the blue jays
Guest 5888
Don’t forget about the A’s. They need offense, are willing to trade any pitcher, and Miami is known to covet Gio.
ludafish
…huh? who would want Hanley? are you kidding?
Guest 5887
Way to take things out of context.
ludafish
i was just making fun of someone in my head earlier for not getting sarcasm. karma. also people have been badmouthing him a lot and thought that was going on…
Guest 5885
Nope. Not badmouthing him. Just pointing out that no team is gonna take on most of his remaining salary, plus give up something really good in return.
FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
plenty of teams?
bravesdude
The Braves may want to make a play for him . He and Freddi would have to learn to play nice though .
SethHood422
At least the Marlins are showing they mean business……though Im afraid they’re going after the wrong person.
Kyle Haker
probably makes more sense than a 1B. They have a young above average first basemen in Gaby, but no one of consequence at third, which is essentially what they are replacing.
cards2WS
Jose, welcome to Miami.
wickedkevin
Time for a DECISION.
LUWahooNatFan
“I’m sorry Marlins, but we just simply can no longer take you seriously”
-The Rest of Baseball
Rabbitov
By your logic no one takes the Nats (Werth), Red Sox (Lackey, Matsuzaka), Rangers (ARod), Angels (Matthews), Dodgers (Dreifort), Giants (Zito), Rockies (Hampton), Orioles (Segui, Belle, Atkins, ok ok forget the Os) seriously anymore.
Difference is even if they overpay they still may get the production they want, only time will tell.
slider32
This officially knocks the Mets out of the running, as if they were ever in it. Reyes is not going to get a better deal than this one, I would expect him to take it soon. If the Marlins land Reyes they will try to land a big starter.
$4555515
it most likely knocks all of baseball outta the running…no one except the marlins would pay that much for a guy who cant avoid the DL for a extended period any given season
KyleB
“I completely disagree” – Mike Rizzo
AlanDuda
ugh i’m so sick of that injury talk. his injury time is so
overblown…6 out of his 7 seasons as the mets starter he played over
130 games. he plays shortstop. and he plays it with 110% effort.
bravesdude
Yeah …. but the last three season he has only played 295 out of 486 .
Ryan
The last two seasons he has played in 259 games. That is more than Pedroia, Ellsbury, Kinsler, Hamilton, Zimmerman, Arod and Rollins. It’s only 6 less games than Tulo has played. He also has a higher fWAR in those 259 games than Fielder does in the 323 games he has played over that span. The Marlins should be counting their lucky stars that he has only played in 259 games. If he had played in 320+ games he would be costing them $160-180 million.
misterjoshua77
There is no such thing as 110%…you can only give 100%
BlondnEvil
you cannot give more than 100% please refrain from hyperbole, it’s stupid
Lefty
ESPNDeportesLosAngeles??? Why would Los Angeles report this? How would they know LA is a good distance from Dallas and even further from Miami!
Seriously, though are the Marlins bidding against themselves? Who else is in?
Jorge Droz
Jose Reyes has to accept this deal, I doubt any other team gives him this kind of $! In 3 words WELCOME TO MIAMI
KyleB
I see another party coming soon with Pitbull singing and Josh Johnson looking awkward trying to model a uniform…
Serdar Sirin
Please…….no more Pitbull…..please….
rsanchez1
Beinfest to Reyes: I know you want me, you know I want you.
eyedessert
Forget Pitbull… they need to get Yngwie Malmsteen to perform.
MrBaseball29
Wow
Paul Ellis
They would never pick up that 7th year.
JacksTigers
I’m not so sure. Talk to me in six years.
Anthony Polito
in mlb the show jose reyes always gets signed over 130 million
YaGottaBelieve11
Not true, I resigned him for 5/90
dylanp5030
^ GM of the year.
fxx3605
in mlb 2k11 he signs for 5years at 38 mill sigh such a broken game
Dodgersarelife
I resigned him for 9/50k a year. For some reason he took it!
BluMule
AS is “The Show”. I got Ubaldo (3mil/year), Josh Johnson (2.3), Votto(5), Kemp(8) and others for CHEAP.
Ubaldo and JJ wanted 18 mil. Votto wanted 16 and Kemp wated 18. no one else bidded on them….
Paul Shailor
I just sign players to 1 year deals for a ton of money, they always accept.
jmcbosox
wow. just wow.
fitz
At least the Marlins will be exciting to watch next season. Provided Hanley/Reyes can both stay healthy at the same time..
$4555515
im pretty sure most miami fans could care less about going to see the marlins play if the past 3+ seasons attendance tally was any indication
fitz
That’s true. I was speaking more from the perspective of actual baseball fans which there are few of in Florida. Florida is a horrendous sports state overall as far as fans and attendance is concerned.
rsanchez1
I wonder if Theo Epstein and Terry Francona share the same opinion about Boston (with regards to fans, but then the probably sometimes wished Boston would’ve had Miami attendance).
ludafish
The attendance thing is getting old. The marlins TV ratings are up there with the best and that stadium is the most ugly uncomfortable place to watch a game. with the new stadium attendance will not be an issue anymore.
bayareabeast
brand new stadium..they’ll fill the seats
rsanchez1
Plus, retractable roof means guaranteed game.
slider32
The Marlins should do better with their new retractable dome.
bravesdude
I’m sure they will do better than last season . Of course , it shouldn’t take much to do that . The first few weeks they will do pretty well with the new stadium and a couple of new players . But once that curiousity wears off and the team falls back into 3rd or 4th place , the attendance should fall back off .
Victor
Regardless. If the Marlins pull in the exact amount of fans that they did last season, their profits will be much greater based on the fact that all the money goes into their pockets rather than paying Wayne Huizenga to lease the space at Dolphin stadium.
bravesdude
Oh well then they will be fine . But with a new stadium comes a lot more money to have to pay out . And their attendance will determine thier profit if they have any at all . Attendance pays for parking , concessions , merchandise , etc. .
To put in perspective , the top 15 teams were all over 30,000 a game . Florida averaged 19,000 a game last year . And their average percentage of total capacity filled a game was 48.8 . That means they couldn’t fill at least half the stadium all year for most of all their games . I’m sure they will do somewhat better this next year . Especially at the beginning of the year with the new stadium and a few new players . But even back in 2003 when they won their last WS , their attendance was still second to last .
rsanchez1
The problem with Hanley isn’t staying healthy. It’s getting his head out of the game.
Victor
Ha. My thoughts exactly. Can’t wait to see Ozzie jump on his Azz if he keeps half azzing it during the season.
bravesdude
You mean like Freddi Gonzalez did . That worked out well .
Victor
Seriously? You’re comparing Freddie to Ozzie?
bravesdude
No….comparing how well Hanley responds to being criticized over his lack of hustle .
scooterb
now trade Hanley Ramirez, a few teams hurting at shortstop…
Alex
It’s real. It’s damn real.
Abraham Zapruder
He gone.
mwagner26
I lold ..
Robert Montenegro
this won’t end well
bravesdude
It will end very well……for Reyes .
AmISerious
The NL East this upcoming season is going to be a tough battle…well besides the Mets.
guydavis
I fear you might be right
alex collins
Hanley for Jurjjens and Prado, similar to Uggla for Dunn and infante .. 🙂
Victor
Keep dreaming.
BLEACHER_CREATURD
Hopefully he can stay healthy…
Jessie Kreitman
Reyes should take it…mets can’t bite back with a better offer even if they had the funs considering their legal troubles at this moment. Plus your looking at being a hero of a new team, if this is any time for him to produce and get a big giant pay day its now, he is more incentivized than ever. However, he takes this offer the price on Pujlos drives way up (still think he will sign with St. Louis though)
JacksTigers
This is the part where the $111MM changes to a $100MM or less. These reports of big offers rarely seem to be accurate on the original statement.
Joe N
7 years 135 was my prediction. Reyes has provided very good production despite being injury prone and inconsistent. The money seems good, but I wonder is Hanley moving to CF or a corner?Because you’re really not replacing a SS here, you’re replacing an outfielder.
guydavis
Think the idea was that he would be moved to 3B. Pretty exciting left side of the infield.
bravesdude
IDK . According to Hanley here a while back , he said HE was the Marlins SS .
$4555515
this report is looking more and more false as time passes…wouldnt surprise me given its source is posted on a spanish website in los angelos
cbcbcb
Rojas doesn’t seem to always have the best information
slider32
I thought this was legit until they said that a Rojas source said that Pujols would sign with the Marlins if he doesn’t sign with the Cards.
cookmeister
if this is true, he should jump on that deal.
Rabbitov
Gotta spend money to make money.
TDKnies
That’s more like it.
Ryan The Braves Fan For Life
Please shock the world and say yes to the braves! Please say yes Jose!!!!
austinhb
God I hope not, while he is a great player and would make the lineup electric, I don’t think I would be able to stand seeing his stupid selfish smile for 162 games
Cam Hodgson-Dwyer
You wouldn’t have to worry about his stupid selfish smile for 162 games, he won’t be healthy enough to play that many.
guydavis
That’s a pretty horrible thing to say.
bravesdude
No thanks . Wren won’t make a horrible mistake like that ….. again (reference to DLowe) . Especially for what he is asking for .
Victor
The Braves? They didn’t even make an offer. Is he supposed to play for free?
Tomahawk237
Yep
BaseballLogic_Braves
How about…… NO! Maybe if he sucked more the Braves would make a bid.
ludafish
As much as i would love Reyes to be a part of our lineup, and everyone would, not at that price. Spend big on Pujols/Fielder or pitching. Now if he signs this extending Hanley or JJ will cost MUCH more cause they will want that kind of money. What about extending stanton?
Victor
Why extend Stanton now? He’s making pennies. They need to exploit Stanton now that he’s young and extend him when his arbitration costs start to increase.
James Hallow
You know the Marlins are over paying him when the Yankee Fans complain about a player getting overpaid.
Victor
As a Marlins fan, I never imagined seeing the words “Marlins” and “overpaying” in the same sentence.
I’m happy that Reyes may be coming here but would have preferred the Power of Fielder. I can’t imagine Reyes at 34 and 35 YO justifying his contract. Nevertheless, I like the direction of the team so far.
RidiculousPage
From what I’ve read from sites like FanGraphs is that the price you pay for a player isn’t limited to his annual salary. In order to wrap someone up like Reyes, you’d need to offer more money for the later years of the contract or add on years to the end of the contract. In essence, not only would the Fish be paying Reyes say $20m, this year, Reyes would also be receiving a lucrative amount of money later on. Guaranteeing huge sums of money for a player in the end years of his contract is just part of the game. It’s a concession teams have to make. I’m sure no one expects Albert to be worth upwards of $25 when he’s 40.
Louie Schuth
You should have seen this sentence coming: “Once again, the Yankees/Red Sox end up overpaying for a former Marlins player.”
Redsoxn8tion
Why are the Marlins bidding against themselves? Save some $$ for Fielder
Redsoxn8tion
and Buehrle.
MB923
And Red Sox fans
Victor
Stop with the Hanley trades. He isn’t going anywhere. The Marlins are in the process of building a team, not dismantling one. Hanley is signed for a team friendly contract and he is the guy they are building around. Yes, he was hurt last season, but so were many other players. Injured players heal. YOu just don’t trade them bc they hit the DL.
I expect the Fish upped their offer bc they want to go into the Winter Meetings knowing what they want to target. If Reyes accepts the deal tomorrow, the Fish enter the Winter Meetings w/ the focus of starting pitching. They can make deals fast and early before anyone else strikes.
Guest 5884
How would trading Hanley equal dismantling? Not that I see this happening, but what if they were to trade him for Gio Gonzalez, a couple top prospects, and have the A’s take on nearly all of Hanley’s salary?
A deal like that would not only bolster their rotation with a really talented hometown player, but it COULD also free up enough payroll space for them to put in a really high bid on Pujols or Fielder, plus make sure they get one of the free agent pitchers that they want.
This is all hypothetical, of course. But never say never.
Victor
Hanley was signed to a 5 year contract for a reason. Unlike in the past, the Marlins have strategically extended certain players for the purpose of keeping these players when their new stadium opens. Josh Johnson also fits the bill.
Hanley is very popular around baseball bc very few SS’s can outproduce him. That is why you and hundreds of other computer GM’s come up w/ these trade scenarios that will benefit their teams.
The Marlins need to make a strong statement this year. W/ the hundreds of millions of dollars that they stole from Dade County residents, the current investigation by the SEC into their aquisition of those funds, and the pressure to let their fans believe that they will invest in their team rather than more fire sales. Sending Hanley packing will not instill a great deal of faith in their rebuilding efforts.
No, as good as he is, Gio Gonzalez plus prospects does not equal Hanley Ramirez. Whatever spin you would like to put in it, there would be a huge backlash.
As for signing Albert Pujols, trading Hanley does not guarantee a Pujols signing. Odds are he stays in St. Louis.
Guest 5883
I love how you completely ignored the parts where I wrote “Not that I see this happening,” “COULD,” and “This is all hypothetical.”
For the record, I would be *mad* if the A’s gave up Gio Gonzalez and two top prospects for an expensive player that would most likely be gone by the time the A’s could ever get their new stadium built.
I’m not some “computer GM” trying to come up with a trade scenario that will benefit my team. I clearly said this is all hypothetical. And the only reason I used Gio as an example is because I know that the Marlins would love to have him.
My only point here — quite clearly — is just never say never. Hanley isn’t a sure 2012 Marlin.
Victor
Touche
User 4245925809
Richie Sexson says hello.
rsanchez1
Wow, personally looks to me like the Marlins are overpaying for Reyes. They must really like what he could bring to the team, or really want to teach Hanley an expensive lesson. Only reason Reyes won’t accept this deal is if he really wants to play somewhere else.
MetsEventually
HE’S OUTTA HERE!
bravesdude
If history repeats itself according to the last 3 years , he probably will get injured and miss some , if not most of the season for around $18 mill a year .
Jeffery Matt
taking his talents to south beach 🙂
Him and Hanley on the left side of the infield will be fun to see
Cavman_Boland
Don’t you mean ‘Souf’ Beach cause that’s what LeBron calls it.
bravesdude
I agree . Seems likely to see another post on this with a correction on the price .
slider32
It looks like the Marlins are for real!
Lefty
7:57 :The Marlins and Reyes are close on a six-year deal, believed to be for $110MM,
7:49pm: The reported terms of $111MM over six years are definitely not correct
Hmmm what’s a million dollars among friends?? I mean we are talking about the Hamstring here!
Crawford is still getting more and he stinks! What gives?
Best line of the night other than Jon Heyman stating Stewart is definitely going somewhere. Is someone stating 6 @ 111 is definitely not correct, but 6 @ 110 is ??
bravesdude
That amount still seems like a little much . They could have stayed around 6@$100 mill and still would have had a great shot to land him and save $10 mill .
fitz
Watching a team built around Reyes, Hanley, Josh Johnson and Mike Stanton as well as guys like Gabby, Emilio and LoMo is going to be awesome. Can’t wait for baseball already! Glad they are playing at Fenway this year.
Victor
You can now add Heath Bell to the list.
Dylan Zane
Please go to the brewers.
Guest 5882
1. spending lots of $$$ on players
2. no fans
3. ???
4. profit
BaseballLogic_Braves
They could generate more of a fan base with their new park, you never know.
NYBravosFan10
does “get underpants” fit in there anywhere?
NYBravosFan10
wow, gotta take them seriously now I guess.
BaseballLogic_Braves
Nah, he’ll be injured most of the time anyway.
BlondnEvil
Whats going to happen in three years when the Marlins realize they can’t afford all these players…we’ve seen this all before
padresfuture
Sure, but if they win another championship… who cares?
philliesfan136
Man, the NL East will be really interesting this season..
NYBravosFan10
Iit’s still going to be us at the top though I believe. The Marlins have certainly improved and the Nationals appear to be headed down that same road but our teams are more established. I’ll predict…
1.Phillies/Braves
2.Phillies/Braves
3.Marlins/Nationals
4.Marlins Nationals
8.Mets
Kareem Arnold
haha this is hilarious ..GRAVE mistake..
Phillies_Aces35
I’m curious to see how this effect’s J-roll’s market. J-roll on a 4 year deal might be an attractive alternative to Reyes on a 6-7 year deal to a lot of his other suitors.
Also: The Mets are going to get a 3rd round pick for Reyes? Early holiday present from the baseball gods! 🙂
diehardmets
They only get a third? I thought they get a second.
Phillies_Aces35
I thought I saw Bell was ranked higher? Makes no sense I’ll agree with Mets fans on that.
diehardmets
That has just ruined any faith I had in this system. There is no way in hell a RP should warrant a higher pick than a Top-3 SS who is 6 years younger. That is absolute Bullshi*.
Phillies_Aces35
Completely agree. Glad they’re doing away with the system as it stands now.
Joveoak
Heath Bell’s rating > Jose Reyes’s rating. Because of that, Mets get the Marlins’ third pick (since their first pick is protected and the second one is going to the Padres).
dylanp5030
U get a supplemental round pick as well, which is better than a second round.
Joveoak
Oh yea, I forgot about that. My apologies.
Joveoak
He’ll say (to whichever team he goes): The Marlins pay 111 mil for Reyes, a shortstop. I’m a shortstop: How much MORE are you going to pay for my services?
Seven years at 120 mil tops, given his age, PA35.
jljr222
Big move going into the Winter Meetings. This means that things will fall into place real quick tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what happens.
User 4245925809
Go Fish! Tommy Hutton is going to be ecstatic.. Might have to listen to his broadcasts much more this season over old favorite Cookie Rojas. Rojas was a favorite as a player, but Hutton gets into the game so much and is a great Fish cheerleader.
Victor
I love Tommy. He is such an enthusiastic fan. My favorite.
Phillies_Aces35
One of my favorite Broadcasters.
User 4245925809
I like him a lot also, did as a player also on some powerful Phillie teams think you like.. He didn’t get a lot of playing times except for PH and late inning defense however..
danman1202
Terrible day for the Mets and their fans, sorry to them. Losing a home grown player with that kind of talent is really tough.
Looks like ownership (Wilpons) have really put tight reins on Alderson, 6/106 is a little much I think due to some injury history but it would have been worth it to match, the Mets would have made that money back and then some.
Doesn’t look like there will be a no trade clause, interesting. If Miami can’t hold onto him due to budgetary issues if they don’t draw enough people to the games (as I predict) he may be a 2013 or 2014 trade target for many teams…(Yankees?)
Joveoak
“Terrible day for the Mets and their fans, sorry to them. Losing a home grown player with that kind of talent is really tough.”
Yea, it’s tough but I, as a fan, will survive. It will be painful (here’s to hoping the Mets don’t end up dead last) but I’ll survive. Other fans, well, I don’t know about that. Some are already asking for the heads of the Wilpons.
“Looks
like ownership (Wilpons) have really put tight reins on Alderson, 6/106
is a little much I think due to some injury history but it would have
been worth it to match, the Mets would have made that money back and
then some.”
Problem with that is that has been the Mets’ MO since their renaissance (circa 2005) until Alderson took over (which was last year). I like Alderson’s approach: so the Mets lost the Reyes sweepstakes. The Mets have Ruben Tejada for a shortstop and he’s good defensively. I’m wondering though on how second base will be filled with Justin Turner or with a Rule 5 pick.
“Doesn’t look like there will be a no trade clause,
interesting. If Miami can’t hold onto him due to budgetary issues if
they don’t draw enough people to the games (as I predict) he may be a
2013 or 2014 trade target for many teams…(Yankees?)”
That would be another topic for another day.
Kingmojo101
this is to funny, marlins are going to have locker room conflict big time,reyes vs hanley, hanley vs guillen, morrison vs everyone,etc…
GREGM
Drama sells. Just as TNT…
Victor
Dude, it’s gonna be great. UFC in the locker room.
Cavman_Boland
The Big 3 to Miami: Reyes, Pujols and Prince…just watch!
dylanp5030
…and Fielder going to catch? Or is Albert play 3rd with Hanley at 2nd?
Cavman_Boland
I was kind of just kidding but if it did actually happen I think Pujols would play 3rd. Man imagine that though.
Victor
Fielder will DH with Pujols at 1st. LOL
Butch Crassidy 2
Not this crap again.
Cavman_Boland
Yeah except this time instead of LeBron on ESPN it will be Fielder doing a Man vs. Food special where he dummies 20 foot longs and announces he’s taking his gut to Miami!
Joveoak
Miami’s on the American League? When did this happen that no one has been told about?
dylanp5030
#dreamteam
Joseph Cecala
I am surprised he got this much considering hes always on the DL.
Phillies_Aces35
Imagine what he’d get if he wasn’t.
GOTIGERS24
NOOOOOO i guess the tigers will just have to get A-RAM and cespedes
Phillies_Aces35
He’s taking his talents to South Beach.
Lefty
I am stunned! Not one other team got involved in the bidding.
I guess 29 other teams or at least teams needing a shortstop felt that the hamstring was a “Big Deal”. I thought for sure the Phillies would’ve made a bid.
Serdar Sirin
Not bad for a publicity stunt, right guys?
Louie Schuth
As a HanRam fantasy owner “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”
Victor
You should be happy. At least for this season he’ll have SS/3B eligibility. Great deal there.
Louie Schuth
And then the year after he won’t. That hurts for a dynasty team.
MaineSox
I feel like I went to sleep and woke up in crazy town, and next I’m going to find out that there are 8 days in a week and that Wednesday comes after Friday.
MB923
Jose to South Beach
elscorchot
HELL YES!!!!!!!
Bob George
Great player with history of leg injuries, this is a horrible contract for that reason.
Also, once the Marlins realize nobody is going to show up at that hideous new stadium, for all the same reasons nobody has ever supported MLB in Florida, then Reyes will be on the trade block.
Andrew T
that stadium is gorgeous compared to sunlife…and it is well above the average for current stadiums.
I for one am hoping that the artist rendering of the HR sculpture is just done by a horrible artist, and the actual sculpture was done by a great one
Serdar Sirin
The dump I just took looks better compared to Sun Life
Andrew T
I don’t doubt that….and there was probably less humidity
elscorchot
with the marlins looking for more pitching, i think the braves will be in third. their pen is good, great closer, great lineup, all that is missing is some arms.
elscorchot
it is the cardinals
Alan Pressman
I feel devastated !!!! 🙁
ChiefW4
Assuming this goes through, Jose Reyes will transition from my favorite player in baseball to my most hated, and I will be holding “Traitor Reyes” signs and take the guy to task. I now hope he gets injured (something I’ve never wished on anyone before in my life, unless they were shooting at me trying to kill me while I was in battle in the Army). Alderson has also lost me as someone who will watch the Mets over the next few years as the Mets will now be lucky to be competitive by 2015, and we’ve already gone through 3 years of being the jokes of the league. Screw Reyes, and screw Alderson, and the Marlins will now see why the Mets wouldn’t pay him that much (and I bet in 15-20 years, Reyes will look back on this and regret it). Reyes doesn’t play hurt, AT ALL! He did last year because it was his contract year, but much like the Red Sox got screwed with Carl Crawford, the Marlins made a SERIOUS mistake!
Serdar Sirin
…….umad?
Cam Hodgson-Dwyer
As they always say, write what you feel on paper, then sleep on it. You sound like a very, very bitter person right now.
CommissionerBart
He’s an exceptionally talented and exciting player…..and will be an igniter for the Marlins. But given his health history, I see him likely missing a lot of time over six years, making the contract quesionable. Yes, questionable because of the legnth and $ amount committed to but also questionable because the Marlins need him in order to prosper as the team hopes, and if he’s frequently injured they’ve put their eggs in the wrong basket.
Paul
Thank you sososososo much miami for signing him, now I dont have to worry about the Tigers signing him.
Dave Koffer
I’m devastated by this news, absolutely devastated that he would actually leave the Mets.
The Mets = The Bad News Bears =The Mutts.
Wilpons, please sell the team!!!!
I can’t believe he’s gone, he’s actually gone, to the Marlins no less!!!!
I can’t take this much more!!