Mets GM Sandy Alderson has made it no secret that signing both David Wright and R.A. Dickey beyond 2013 is one of his top offseason priorities, and a source told Andy Martino of The New York Daily News that formal contract negotiations with both players could begin next week. "Too early to tell," said a source when asked if either player could agree to a new deal this month.
Earlier this week we learned that the team intends to open talks with Wright by offering a deal in the $100MM range, which would be in line with the six-year, $100MM extension Ryan Zimmerman signed with the Nationals earlier this year. The 29-year-old Wright hit .306/.391/.492 with 21 homers this year, and the Mets will surely exercise his $16MM club option for next season soon after the World Series.
Dickey, 37, could be in line for an Oliver Perez-like contract following his Cy Young caliber season, meaning three years and $36MM. The club will surely exercise his $5MM club option for 2013 as soon as necessary. Martino hears that Alderson is sincere in his desire to sign Dickey, but there is some in the organization who are concerned about his age and injury history. The knuckleballer pitched through a torn abdominal muscle this season and dealt with a right foot problem last year.
6 years/$115 million with an option on a 7th year.
Some in the organization are concerned about Dicky? I would be concerned about the rest of the team. Worried about the guy who produces. Maybe focus the energy on getting some productive players.
Guess since they’re only (over)paying Santana for 1 more year, they need to find another starting pitcher to focus their angst on. Where’s Oliver Perez when you need him?
Well the guy is 37 and has a small sample size for someone his age of being good yes he has been great this year and pretty good the past two but that’s about it and again he is 37. Yes the knuckle ball puts no pressure on his arm but when was the last time teams truly counted on knuckle ballers year in and year out. It’s a finicky pitch he dominated this year but could easily pitch to a 5+ era next year that’s the concern with knuckle ballers, their window is very small
Overpaying for players on the wrong side of 30 is how you continue to finish poorly in the standings.
Mike: No offense whatsoever intended? Probably not a good idea referencing Ollie when it comes to giving out a contract to a pitcher with the Mets and I say that with -0- intent on bashing the fans. Just a someone they want to forget about and the person who gave him the deal have a strong feeling.
@johnsilver:disqus
Theo,John Lackey and Dice-K want to know what you mean by that?
Carl Pavano, Kei Igawa, and AJ Burnett say hello.
Ow!!
Haha I say that all in good fun. Personally, I think albatross contracts like Bay’s, Igawa’s, or Dice-K’s are actually on par with smaller bad deals made by smaller franchises (Rays, Pena; Indians, Hafner; Pirates, Barmes). Big markets just have more room for error than smaller market teams. I think it’s fair to say that Barmes is just as financially constraining for the Pirates as Igawa was for the Yanks.
It’s like teams like the Sox or Yanks are playing on a big-stacks poker game, while the Padres or Royals are playing on a small-stacks table. The big boys are going to cash in on bigger rewards for their gambles, but are more prone to big losses.
Touche! I can take as well as dish out. You’re right on all counts, too bad some posters don’t understand that.
Dice-K gave enough value, even with the poor ending. Helped get a ring in 07, was better in 08, then got injured at the WBC in 09 and was never the same.
Since Dickey is a knuckleballer, I don’t expect the Dice-K, Brandon Webb, Chien-Ming Wang type dropoff.
Nobody both of you mentioned is in Ollie Perez category. Lesson: yes, both Yankees and Red Sox have made mistakes, but not nearly as bad as the ones the Mets have made lol
NYM is further along at revamping their organization than both of NYY/BOS. Of course, with NYY in the LCS, you could argue that they don’t need to rework their roster, but it’s inevitable at the end of the season when they have to decide on Cano/Swisher/Granderson/Kuroda/Pettitte/Soriano, while dealing with A-Rod’s continued financial baggage. All of that and their farm system isn’t very good especially with Banuelos going under the knife.
NYM’s rotation was surprisingly good. They’ll have another year of Santana, Dickey, Wright while they’ll be out from under Santana/Wright’s big paychecks after ’13, if they choose to get younger with more prospects to add to Matt Harvey/Zach Wheeler and co. If you have your 1-2 starters figured out for the presumed future, then add Jon Niese to the fold, they’ll be alright. They’re moving in the OF walls to make it shorter while returning some decent bats. Davis should get better. If they can build a decent bullpen and add a C and another bat, they could build on the 1st half success they had in 2012.
Since when do the Yankees need to revamp their organization? They have great major leaguers plus some good young players coming up. Plus the Yankees have more money than god they will never need to “revamp” and I’m not even close to being a Yankees fan.
Nothing you said combats my point about Ollie being the biggest mistake any of the three clubs (NYY, BOS, NYM) made. Pavano does come close though haha
And yes, I know about the Mets farm and wish the best of luck. The combination of Wheeler & Harvey looks like a good bet to anchor the rotation for years to come. But since you told me about the Mets system, I feel obliged to shed some light on the Yanks system… for no reason at all. Enjoy.
Yes, Banuelos had Tommy John surgery, and I hope he returns to form or stronger. Remember, Pineda should be available this coming year, and Betances can hopefully rebound and gain some control back. More promising arms are available in Ty Hensley, and the high upside Jose Campos, from the Montero trade. Speaking of which, the top prospect in the system is another offensive catcher, Gary Sanchez. And the reason the Yankees can perhaps let Granderson and Swisher walk is because we have a glut of OF options, highlighted by Mason Williams, but includes Tyler Austin and Slade Heathcott. Lastly, everyone’s waiting for the top 3B in the system to hit the bigs and Bichette Jr. may take over for ARod sooner than later.
Thanks for the farm report. I don’t follow NYY farm, though I’m a NY resident (ATL native) and would love to cheer for a local “team”, as opposed to the current mercenary mentality it appears to be to the casual fan.
Mike Hampton feels left out.
Even Mike Hampton forgets about Mike Hampton.
LOL. They cost more, but got something out of them over the course of the deals and still have a chance. Ollie gave nothing back.
You know what Slopeboy? These last 3 seasons I keep thinking of that old Peter, Paul and Mary song “I’m Leaving on a Jet Plane” and wishing that Boras would have told Matsuzaka to do that the Winter of ’06 🙁
To be honest, I never liked that signing at all! After the Irabu disaster,I wanted no part of Dice-K, especially with the price of the posting fee. I was thrilled when the Red Sox won the bidding, until George signed Igawa. Cashman gets the blame for that, but it was George and the marketing dept, with their knee-jerk reaction who wanted to make a splash.
Cashman and the scouts all said that Igawa was the best pitcher in an inferior league, available and wanted no part of him. George and the bean counters prevailed. The rest is history.
Dice-K at least contributed to a championship season and sold a lot of Jerseys, so it wasn’t a total fiasco for Boston, but no one should say it was a good signing.
As a Mets fan I don’t really know how to feel about this. I love David Wright and the idea of him becoming a lifelong Met is very very appealing , but at the same time I just don’t see him being a major contributor to the next good Mets team. It might make more sense for the organization to exercise his option then trade him in order to fill the many holes this team has and get us closer to being competitive.
The same goes for Dickey. He’s been fantastic the past three years, but he is old and by the time the Mets become competitive again he’ll (hopefully) be taking the back seat to Wheeler and Harvey. Is he going to put up another Cy Young season when the Mets finally have a good team? Probably not. His value is at its peak, I say trade him to get this team closer to being competitive.
As much as I’d love to keep these two players, I think I’d love for the Mets to be competitive again even more.
Thats a great point. What else is this team doing to become competitive? If they have a plan in the next two years then I say sign and keep both. If they plan on filling gaps with has beens and never will be’s then trade them and try to get some major league ready players from a contender. Dickey’s value may never be any higher then now, same goes for Wright actually. But they need to get quality players back which the Mets have a bad habit of not doing.
Wright was a MVP candidate much of 2012 and wasn’t the reason the Mets lost steam towards the end of the season. If Duda and Davis made more contact, they’d have 65+ HR between them. With them moving in the OF walls, if either can have a better contact rate, they NYM should have a potent offense if they can set the table. Their weaknesses (C, bullpen) can be addressed in the short-term while their long-term strengths (SP: Niese, Harvey, Wheeler) look good.
Actually Wright was a huge contributor the the second half collapse.
Wright pre-All Star game: .351 BA 1.004 OPS 59 RBI’s 47 K’s 50 BB
Wright post All Star game: .258 BA .750 OPS 34 RBI’s 65 K’s 31 BB
A .750 OPS is a “huge contributor”?
“A huge contributor to the second half collapse.”
Read the entire phrase.
i agree 100 percent why sign wright to 100 million plus contract for..the mets will be in last place with him or without him..
It’s kind of weird that Oliver Perez is the baseline for mid-level, short-term contracts.
Dickey really hasn’t had much of a track record, he had a great season last year and is 37. Take away last year and he gets a one year contract. As for Wright, I would pick up his option and trade him for prospects. I don’t see the Mets being contenders anytime soon, especially when they aren’t spending any money.
Dickey got a two-year two (albeit as a 36-year-old) for his 2011 and 2010 campaign. There’s no doubt that he can get a 3-year deal for his 2012 campaign.
What would Dickey and Wright be worth for other teams in terms of prospect at AA/AAA level?
What team could use a 3B upgrade? And what could be the offer?
What team could use a SP? And what could be the offer?
The Braves need third base help, but any deal would have to start with Delgado, Prado + 3 more of the farm if a deal to resign Wright was in place, and that for sure ain’t happening.
That’s just insane. Prado and Delgado alone is an overpay for Wright.
For the best 3rd baseman in baseball? I don’t think so. Prado is consistent, yes, but Wright is better than Prado every day.
He’s not even close to the best, especially considering how awful he was in the second half. Even if he was, 2 cost controlled players, one already a good major leaguer, does not equal one expensice, aging, not elite one.
Prado’s only under team control for 2 more years. The Mets could easily get more when you consider how bad the 3B market is.
Wright is the best 3B in baseball? Maybe in terms of WAR this year, but that guy in Detroit is pretty good too.
Offensively, yes, he’s the best third baseman
All around…different story, since he’s more of a 1st baseman
Off the top of my head Longoria and Beltre are better all around 3rd basemen
huh? i’d do that 2 for 1 in a heartbeat. i love prado, but it’s david freaking wright.
So you create a hole at LF for the Braves and what do the Mets do with Bay/Duda platoon? Mets need CF and RF help. They are stuck with Bay for next year.
Dodgers would surely offer Zack Lee and Joc Pederson.
Both should be traded for prospects.
pretty much
Agreed diehard. What’s the point of keeping the two most attractive trade chips that you have when the rest of the team is in shambles? You need pitching, catching, outfielders, and so on. It befuddles me that a good majority of Met fans simply want to retain Wright because they need a “legitimate star”, a “leader”, a “face of the franchise”. That’s nice and all, but I’m willing to bet, in a couple of years time, when David were to sign a 6-8 year, $100+ million contract to stay put, those same fans will wonder why we even resigned him. It may hurt, but like you said, he, along with Dickey, should be shopped for the benefit of the entire team. I see Arizona as a good fit for Wright.
i agree as a fellow met fan i love wright and wish he would be a met for his whole career but honestly its time to rebulid..no need for that contract when were gonna be in last place with or without him..we let reyes just walk away and we got nothing in return..should of traded him but like the past season front office honestly we had a good team.i know before the season started there was no hope just like no hope for the 2013 season..
Mets fans are still trying to put oliver perez out of their memories. Can we stop comparing him to anyone. Especially Dickey.
If Dickey has a 5m option, offer him 7. This may be Dickey’s last big contract, but no need to jump from 5 to 12 mil.