Roughly 10% of you feel that Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino will be the biggest name dealt today. The latest:
- A Dodgers-Victorino trade is looking very likely, tweets Heyman. ESPN's Jayson Stark tweets that the Dodgers are close to acquiring Victorino for Lindblom and a second player. Another sign a deal is imminent: outfielder Domonic Brown was scratched from today's Triple-A game and will be joining the Phillies in Washington, D.C., tweets Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer.
- The Dodgers are in serious talks for Victorino, reports Heyman. The Phillies have been asking for relievers.
- The Reds and Phillies have ceased talks on Victorino and Juan Pierre, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, putting the Dodgers in a good position for Victorino.
- Potential Phillies target Josh Lindblom became more expendable for the Dodgers after the team acquired Brandon League from the Mariners, wrote Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports early this morning. Lindblom, 25, has a 3.02 ERA, 8.1 K/9, 3.4 BB/9, 1.70 HR/9, and 38% groundball rate in 47 2/3 relief innings this year, so he's had some issues with the longball.
Yikes! Josh Lindblom does not exactly sound like a good fit for the Phillies ballpark.
The Phils have already lost every sense of home field advantage with a lineup that can’t hit the long ball. Lindblom is just another step toward moving the fences back
If the phils move the fences in anymore it will be a peewee league park
CBP has basically played nuetral the last serveral years per ESPN park factors
Mets moved the fences in at Citi, not back.
CBP has played pretty neutral overall ever since they moved the fences out a few years back. It still has a higher HR rate but lower 2B & 3B rates so it neutralizes out for offensive numbers.
I’m sure a guy that is a FB machine will pitch great in CBP.
Still wondering when/if Boston starts selling a couple middle relievers. Granted, they won’t be after any veterans like Victorino, but low level prospects would get a Mortenson, or Tazawa and slightly better Padilla or Albers.
They have plenty for teams like Philly who are in search of BP help and wouldn’t require much.
Philly is selling. They don’t need rental relievers.
Padilla would be the only rental. Rest of them have years of control. I understand though that they should be selling.
Yeah, I’m expecting to see a few Sox bullpen names on this site before the day is done.
Would you guys want a lot for Franklin Morales? The Pirates can use a quality LH reliever, Tony Watson isn’t cutting it.
If I’m the Dodgers I try to put a nice package together for Ellsbury with a year plus a pennant race remaining on his control. Kemp, Ells and Ethier–print playoff tickets. Make it good. How about Ells and Beckett for a package of top prospects and a starting pitcher.
They don’t have the prospects to get Pence let alone Ellsbury. Their biggest chip is the dollar sign, which will not appeal to Boston. They can get him in 2014 however.
I agree, though you can’t discount the idea of Boston dumping a bad salary or three (or simply being the middleman of a bad salary heading to LA) in order to facilitate a deal.
If they take Crawford, Lackey and Beckett, they can have Ellsbury for free!
Red Sox implementing the Joseph A. Bank sales tactic?
LF – Nava
2B – Pedroia
DH – Ortiz
1B – Agonz
RF – Ross
3B – Middlebrooks
CF – Kalish
C – Salty
SS – Ciriaco
Replace Beckett with Morales.
Team is the same, payroll is $60M lower!
$60M could get you a Hamilton, Greinke and Sanchez for example. What a waste of money, Theo made sure he left his mark on the Sox!
pedroia, ortiz, gonzalez, middlebrooks, kalish, salty, 2 titles
yup, he sure did
Not happening. Unless Boston gets a colossal return for Ellsbury he’s staying out until at least the offseason.
Vic for Lindblom is a pure salary dump. I’d rather just keep him and take the pick.
only problem is in order to get the pick they would have to offer arbitration and he might except, then you’re stuck paying him about the same as Pence next year
Amaro doesnt want to pay the luxury tax.
Ethan Martin was a 1st round pick. Josh Lindblom was a 2nd round pick and is producing at the major league level. You really think you’d do better with a supplemental draft pick?
The Phils should try to take a flier on a mid 20s guy like Geison Aguasviva or Cole St. Clair and see if they get lucky and get a somewhat reliable middle reliever in the future.
Thanks for the Slam off CC in Game 2 of the LDS in ’08, Vic. You won’t be forgotten. Hopefully we will see you in the Phillies Wall of Fame when you hang ’em up.
Sounds like Victorino is on his way. For Lindblom? Meh. For Lindblom+? Dude, no!
Victorino is obviously better than whoever else we have out there (Abreu probably gets cut right?), but he hates the Dodgers and we hate him. To top it off, this looks like a classic “play well for a couple weeks for Ned and parlay it into a 4 year deal” situation.
Not stoked on Victorino.
Not stoked either, but he’s still sadly better than any leadoff option currently on the roster and would be an upgrade…. Rather have Pence of course, but not sure what that would cost.
Martin and Lindblom. :/
For Pence? Done.
I would have been ok with that.
That’ll solidify left field, better than the rotating door we have out there, but hope they dont resign him after the year unless its only for a year or two.w
Perfect, a middle reliever with low ground ball rate, high home run rate, and not-so-great BB/9. He’ll fit right in with the Phillies current bullpen mates. Enjoy having Shane back. He’s a gamer and should help out. He’s a career .277 hitter and hitting about 15 points lower so far this year. But he’s been turning it on lately. If he gets back to .270-.275 by the end of the year, then the Dodgers will have picked him up just at the right time.
Lindblom is young and cheap is a decent middle reliever. Lets see who the other guy is.
Wherein the Cubs frantically try to sell them on a Dempster/Soriano package before this can happen.
I was hoping for Pence.
Personally I prefer Victorino. Not only would Pence clean out the closet of top prospects, I really like the looks of our lineup with Victorino leading off.
Exciting time for dodger fans!
I’m looking forward to seeing the fan reaction to Victorino’s first at bat as a Dodger in Dodger’s Stadium… he isn’t exactly a favorite there.
Boo’s are a sign of respect…like damn why can’t you play for us kind of respect lol
No…in LA we just really hate him
Yep, that is very true. Of course I hated Brett Butler too before he became a Dodger, but for different reasons (i.e. he was a pest).
Butler played for many years for the Giants so that was a kind of special case. When he signed with the Dodgers the boos came not in LA but in San Francisco. He became our pest and a memorable one besides.
Once they actually have him on their club, they’ll probably love him as a player.
He came up in the Dodger organization so it isn’t like he’s a total stranger. Yeah, he was a real pest in two postseasons, but if he’s playing for us, all will be forgiven.
It’s just going to be weird to see.
Yeah, I suppose, in a way. It isn’t like we’re getting the face of the franchise though. Marlins fans have to feel a lot weirder about what happened to them.
Yeah, I suppose, in a way. It isn’t like we’re getting the face of the franchise though. Marlins fans have to feel a lot weirder about what happened to them.
(to Dodgers fans) – He kicks your behinds all the time ’cause you gave him away. Just keep reminding him about what the Giants did to the Phils in 2010 and he’ll play angry for you guys, too!
what could the dodgers need with victorino in the first place
A decent SH bat (better RH splits especially with power), decent speed, exceptional upgrade in LF, WS experience, peskiness, swagger, the ability to have Abreau come off the bench. Other than that, not much.
What are the chances the dodgers sign Victorino…is he just a rental especially since more than likely next year we will see Puig or are we going to pursue him to stay?
Puig hasn’t played a game yet. And you’re projecting him to start next season?
did he sign a major league deal? or a minor league deal?
He’s on the 40-man roster, but is not considered to be nearly as polished as Cespedes.
Cespedes says “sure”.
Well, he’s old and that always goes over well with Ned. Ability is, you know, sort of important, but he’s a VETERAN. That means more than anything to Ned.
Well at least with his impending fa status he cannot get drafted from the Dodgers for yet a third time…
Yankees/Rangers for Dempster now that Soriano can’t be dumped off on Dodgers… Is there a hidden ace out there or do they get a cheap Corriea?
So RAJ is set on a RP the problem is the only teams going after Vic are contenders and will NOT surrender a RP that will actually help them. So he is going to get Lindblom who has allowed 38% of inherited runners to score, has the worst HR/9 rate and has a high BB/9 rate.
Well, Rube also wants a reliever that wont make the other relievers look bad…so, in that scenario, Lindblom fits in perfectly. I mean, we cant have a new pitcher come in and upstage our guys like that.
I doubt we get a good prospect out of this along with Lindblom but I can see FAIL written all over this… It would be a better risk to hold him and offer him a contract to possibly get a high pick out of it.
I like Lindblom better than anyone not named Papelbon in this pen. He’s not a dominant set-up guy, and more ideally a 7th inning guy than 8th, but you’ve gotta start somewhere.
Would get more intriguing if second player was Jerry Sands.
We actually hit this one right (destination and player) on PhillyPhanatics dot com…our second player if the Dodgers picked up all $ was Juan Uribe, though I’m now starting to wonder if it’s Jerry Sands – otherwise it’s a low minors throw-in type.
WOW, how happy would I be if the 2nd player was Juan Uribe! Heck, I hope Ned pitches in all the money left owed on Uribe.
Just having Uribe not on the roster for Donnie to run out there at 3B is pure gold to me.
Actually, Sands probably makes sense as the 2nd player. The kid is mashing of late (hit 2 grand slams the other night in AAA), but has no spot (according to management) on the big league roster.
Personally, I would promote Sands to play 1B and DFA Juan Rivera myself, but Ned loves him some aged vets.
Yuck. Sands is not good enough to play at this level, we’ve seen that already. His numbers in the very hitter-friendly PCL are not so great that they show any real development. He also has very limited experience playing first and nearly all of it in the minors. This is not the kind of move that wins in a pennant drive.
Well, over the last month, Juan Rivera has hit .260 avg/.288 obp/.416 slg. so its not like he has been good by any stretch of the imagination.
So giving Sands another shot isn’t exactly risky at this point when you see what Rivera has done of late.
Putting Rivera on DFA is probably an irreversible decision. Now you are stuck with Sands (and Loney) playing first for the rest of the season and postseason, so you’d better hope that’s going to work out. If Victorino comes on board the roster crunch becomes an issue but I think the spot is opened up by dealing an active player for whatever the team can get, and not by flushing anyone down the loo. Dealing Uribe is probably the best solution for the Dodgers but failing that I wouldn’t be surprised if they sent Cruz down and played Uribe at third for the next few weeks at least.
Putting Rivera on DFA is probably an irreversible decision. Now you are stuck with Sands (and Loney) playing first for the rest of the season and postseason, so you’d better hope that’s going to work out. If Victorino comes on board the roster crunch becomes an issue but I think the spot is opened up by dealing an active player for whatever the team can get, and not by flushing anyone down the loo. Dealing Uribe is probably the best solution for the Dodgers but failing that I wouldn’t be surprised if they sent Cruz down and played Uribe at third for the next few weeks at least.
Fingers crossed that it was Uribe…
Dom Brown pulled from Iron Pigs line-up … have to think he’s getting called up and trade for Vic will be announced momentarily.
Edit – looks like MLB TR beat me to it.
How cool would it be to get Victorino, Dempster and Morneau at the trade deadline? I’m salivating….let’s go Blue!