The Marlins are willing to listen on most of their players, including Josh Johnson. But there’s no guarantee they’ll deal the 28-year-old right-hander, who is under contract for 2013. While his salary has risen to $13.75MM, he’s still an attractive commodity to teams seeking starting pitching such as the Rangers and Blue Jays. Here are the latest rumors on Johnson:
- Executives expect the Marlins to trade Johnson, Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets. The Rangers are viewed as the favorites to acquire him.
- Executives expect the Angels, Orioles, Blue Jays and Rangers to push for Johnson, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports tweets.
- The Rangers haven't yet agreed to surrender Olt in a trade for Johnson, Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News tweets.
- The Marlins had not intended to trade both Hanley Ramirez and Johnson, but that stance could be changing given the interest in Johnson, ESPN.com's Buster Olney tweets
- The Rangers are one of the teams actively pursuing Johnson, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. They'd be willing to trade top prospect Mike Olt for Johnson, Nightengale writes.
- There’s a 50-50 chance the Marlins move Johnson, MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro reports (on Twitter). The Marlins are holding out for a great offer.
- There should be a “feeding frenzy” for Johnson, an executive tells Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter).
- The Rangers would like to add an elite starter and ESPN.com’s Buster Olney suggests they’ll pursue Johnson. The Rangers could also ask about Cliff Lee and Zack Greinke, Olney writes (Twitter link).
tomymogo
I would love to see if Braves can get him, but Marlins vs Braves……not gonna happen
Running Scared
cough cough Dan Uggla………….
JoePetchonka
Why are the Marlins selling all of their players? This makes no sense to me. They just got a new stadium, signed all of these new players…Etc.
What was the point of signing all of those free agents and building a new stadium if you’re not even going to wait until after next year to see how these guys do?
WisBrave
Yeah usually they wait till after they wins the world series.
karkat
Their plan fell apart. They started the offseason all strong and bold and then absolutely fizzled. As soon as they stopped performing, it just became a disaster and now they’re trying to salvage it.
baseballz
I just don’t understand why they don’t can Ozzie. In most sports if your highly talented team is fizzling you get a new manager, you don’t trade all the players your manager doesnt like in order to change clubhouse chemistry. Get rid of Ozzie and then see what happens. Geez is a rookie manager can take over the Pale house and turn that franchise around isn’t the proof in the pudding ?
jwsox
becuase for some reason their owner loves him, trust me if they continue to play bad next year, all the players will be tired of ozzies act(much like that what happened in chicago) they will fire ozzie within a year or two if they dont make it to the post season.
coolstorybro222
because the team was terrible even before Ozzie came along.
jwsox
because they are bad, playing badly, have a horrible clubhouse(ozzie will not help this) and their attendance is beginning to drop. The second they lost stanton they lost the possibility of making the post season. It makes sense to sell off they are just doing it a year or two earlier than most people thought.
Adam
If I were the Cardinals I would deal Miller for Johnson.
cards2WS
Would straight up be enough?
Encarnacion's Parrot
Probably not, but it would be a great start.
Justin 26
Agree and throw in cox for another player
patburn
I would love to see Rangers get him. Then the Braves wouldn’t have to deal with him anymore.
rikersbeard
Going to be tough for teams to beat a package starting with Olt. I would love to see the Jays try, but I would hate to see it involve TDA. IT would probably have to beat the Rangers in terms of # of quality pitching prospects.
rikersbeard
Maybe build a package on Nicolino/Syndergaard, Gose, Hech,
Patrick Beliveau
I dont know if it’ll require one of the big 3… but Gose is needed with Bonifacio moving to the IF… I think something built around Gose and Escobar with maybe McGuire or Jenkins added in. It’ll be hard to top Texas if they are dangling Olt though…
john 89
if i were a rangers fan i would make an all out push for Jon Lester could you imagine what Maddox could do for him! this guy is also only 28 doesnt have the injury history of a johnson and has proven himself in the AL East. If i am giving up my best prospects Lester is my guy
john 89
of course i Have seen him pitch. I also look at career numbers and projections and I think Lester with a little help from Mr. Maddox will be your front line starter plus he has a team friendly contract i believe for longer then Johnson
YanksFanSince78
I could see the Yanks making a run for him. I don’t know if other teams still see Banuelos as an elite prospect. It’s not so much the level of production as he’s still just 21 and in his 2nd season at AAA but his non-arm related injuries have kept him off the field for most of the season. Maybe something like…..
Banuelos (SP)-Phelps-(SP)-Joseph (2B)-Santana (CF)+Gamel (LF/RF)
If it can get done w/o giving up Mason Williams, Tyler Austin or Dante Bichette then I think I could live with moving Banuelos, even though I still think he’ll be a solid FOR guy if he can just get 150 innings in one season at AAA.
Sabathia-Johnson-Kuroda-Nova-Hughes with Pineda coming back in 2013 would be nice.
Sean Murphy
You have to remember that Pettitte is coming back in a few weeks, and after having his comeback season (in which he was pitching like he was 25 again) shortened by a freak injury, he’ll likely want to come back again next year and make a run at one more WS. Kuroda was brought in on a one year deal as a stop-gap and hasn’t pitched the way he was pitching in LA. He won’t be back next year.
That said, a rotation of CC-Johnson-Pineda-Pettitte-Nova is about as good as it gets, assuming Pineda rebounds from his injury and puts up the velocity he was showing in the first half of last season, and can handle the media scrutiny. Top that off with the greatest closer in the history of the game (hopefully) coming back next year, and the Yankees are the team to beat. I’d still like to see them go out and trade for a guy like Justin Upton, or land Josh Hamilton in the offseason but I don’t see the latter happening.
YanksFanSince78
Kuroda probably won’t be back next year but I have ZERO complaints. He has a 3.34 ERA and a 3.88 FIP. Not sure if you’re dissapointed by that. As for Pettite, it’s not a smart move to count on him being as good as he was before the injury. Hughes you didn’t even bother to mention.
sdsuphilip
Why would the Marlins want a future reliever as the main piece for a trade for josh johnson?
YanksFanSince78
Because most don’t see him as a reliever maybe?
bigpat
Getting Olt for JJ would be great for Miami, especially considering they essentially gave away Hanley, they need to get something in return for the players they are trading away.
Miami is going to need some players though and they have very little depth to replace the guys they were trading away. I guess they aren’t committed to being a contender in the future, but with Hanley’s money off the books, I guess they can spend money elsewhere now but there are barely any free agents left. BJ Upton??
karkat
I have a hard time imagining a world where Josh Johnson is not in texas by the end of the week. Much better fit than Greinke for them, imo.
jwsox
how is JJ an oft injured #2 maybe #3 at best(at this point) coming from a pitchers park to a hitters park who has never pitched in the AL better than a true ACE#1 who pitches in a hitter park(roof open) and has AL experience?
karkat
I don’t know what to say when you’re doing things like calling Zack Greinke “a true ACE#1”
Remember92
I would just like to take moment to thank the Marlins for playing trade deadline Santa this year. Waiting for JL to come sliding down the chimney at any moment now
Lunchbox45
The reality is the rangers have the best disposable prospects in the league, meaning they could actually part with some pretty good pieces and not have to worry since their on field team is so elite.
Add to the fact they have lost back to back world series, and i really can’t see a team like the jays being as aggressive as the rangers. Rightfully so
Encarnacion's Parrot
The Jays should be just as aggressive though. They’re still in it this year, and would be very well set-up for a great run next season. d’Arnaud really should be the only untouchable prospect in any trade scenario for the type of pitcher JJ is.
Michael 22
Josh Beckett for Carlos Zambrano. Beckett would probably enjoy going back, while Carlos would be, well, interesting….and he could DH!!
Cauê Carneiro
I know Beckett sucks (and i am a Sox fan), but for Zambrano? Are you crazy?
Brandon Smith
I could see that…he DH’s for 4 days, pitches the next lol
jwsox
Z has a full no trade, he loves batting and loves ozzie there is no way he ever goes to the AL
NYBravosFan10
I would love to see this big dog in a braves uniform but I dunno if the Marlins would do that.
WillieMayEsHayes
Does anyone know if the braves have looked into JJ?
elscorchot
very depressing day as a marlins fan. can’t take another fire sale.
txftw
I seem to remember the rumor of Feliz, Perez, and Holland for Josh Johnson either a year or two ago, so would Feliz, Perez, and a lower level position player be enough? Would the Marlins write a check to get some actual talent in return? (Considering they failed to in the Hanley trade)
jwsox
there is no way the rangers trade feliz anymore
txftw
Why is that? IMO he doesn’t really have a spot on the team and he is still valuable enough to get someone that can play a huge role in winning a world series
OptimisticMarlinsFan
After trading Hanley and not getting much back, I think JJ needs to be dealt right now. His value won’t ever be this high again IMO and he is only going to decline. Trade him to Boston, Texas, Toronto for whoever has the best package of prospects in their offer. Trading him now is a MUST.