The White Sox are looking for a "Ubaldo Jimenez package" in return for John Danks, an executive told ESPN.com's Buster Olney (Twitter link). The Rockies' haul for Jimenez at this year's trade deadline consisted of four pitching prospects, including two former first-rounders in Drew Pomeranz and Alex White. However, Jimenez was still under team control for two-plus seasons when the Indians acquired him, while Danks' contract expires at the end of 2012.
Let's check out a couple more White Sox links (newest at the top)…
- Referring to the Santos trade, GM Kenny Williams told reporters (including Knobler): "It is the start of a rebuilding … And you guys know I have not used that word in 12 years."
- Danks, Gavin Floyd, Carlos Quentin, and Gordon Beckham could all be gone by Opening Day if Chicago's rebuild goes according to plan, tweets Danny Knobler of CBS Sports.
- The White Sox have talked to Aaron Rowand's agent about bringing the outfielder back in 2012, tweets ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick.
- Neither Keith Law at ESPN.com or R.J. Anderson and Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus are overly enamored with the newest member of the White Sox, Nestor Molina, acquired today for Sergio Santos. Both pieces require a subscription.
surprise
Nestor Molina will more likely be a valuable contributor as a SP than Santos will as a reliever, he never walks anyone ever.
…in high-A ball, at age 22, with 2 pitches. good prospect, but that prediction is premature
He hasn’t played at a game at the Major League level. How can you say that? Many pitchers do well at throwing strikes in the minors. Then they get to the big show and turn into wild pitchers.
Ha… I love Danks, but if they expect to get what Colorado got for Ubaldo, Kenny’s nuts. Jimenez was moved to a team desperate for an ace type at the trade deadline. Danks has never shown the ability to really step up and be an ace, and let’s face it, you just don’t get as much in December as you do in July.
I mean seriously what goes through his head when he fields these offers?????
It must just be a tactic to get the best possible offer. Even a lunatic like KW knows he isnt getting an Ubaldo package for 1 year of Danks. Same with Wren and Jurrjens.
It wouldnt make sense for them to come out and ask for a Kevin Slowey type package. But it still is funny when they ask for huge returns.
If a GM puts unrealistic demands out there wouldn’t it have a tendency to turn others off on the idea of dealing with him?
cute new trend of asking for a package comparable to the one received for a player nothing like the one you’re shopping
Yeah, Danks is probably better
at inspiring delusions in the minds of white sox fans. end of list
better at what exactly?
Looking for souvenir license plates. Pretty sure Ubaldo is still looking…
So John Danks isn’t going anywhere.
Not until Kenny stops lying to himself.
Basically! No way he gets a Ubaldo package with fir one year of Danks. Maybe half if lucky.
I guess the White Sox aren’t really looking to trade Danks?
Let’s see, Jimenez was controllable for not only 2011, but also for 2012-2014 for a total of just $18 million for the final three years.
Danks? Yeah he’s a free agent after 2012.
Danks trade package = Jimenez trade package?
Only in the mind of one KW
Hahahhahahaha… wait what? He’s serious? …
Apparently Kenny Williams also received some really good cocaine on the side from Miami in that deal for Ozzie. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
In other news, Kenny Williams expects Jake Peavy to be pitching opening day and well into October.
Its possible, he just wont be pitching May-September and gets traded to a contender for a bag of peanuts.
it’s so nice to not have the dumbest GM in town anymore. good luck with that, guys.
Overvalue much??!
This is even worse than the Jurrjens’ Greinke-like package.
One year of Danks, who’s getting paid around $8MM versus 2 1/2 years, minimum, of Jimenez, who will make about $11.4MM during that time. With Felix and CC in the league, Jimenez doesn’t figure to hit his CY salary bumps, either. You have to figure that Jimenez voids his 2014 option, but still…this isn’t even comparable.
Where do people come up with this stuff??
-C
And I thought Ozzie Guillen was crazy
Now we know why if thats what he was working with.
Just looked at the guys numbers and honestly I am not very impressed. I mean he is not a bad pitcher but ERA over 3.50 or higher every year or about.
That does not sound like number 1 starter. For them to ask for that much is just nuts.
Hard to have an opinion on a guy you’ve clearly never seen pitch.
LOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLOL I needed a good laugh, Also Isn’t beckham only 25 why wouldn’t he be part of the rebuilding?
this doesnt make sense
danks-ubaldo like package…1 yr of control
jurrjens- braves want a greinke like package. injury issues
gio- has 4 yrs of team control, he put up double the war value of jurrjens last 2 seasons
yet people complain that A’s are asking too much lol
If that is KW asking price, he is living on a different planet. Danks is good but not an elite starter. And he only has one year left on his contract! Crazy.
KW wants Roy Halladay and Chase Utley for Gordan Beckham.
i really hope alexei ramirez is moved too. he’s got some value, and a moderate contract. i think he stinks, way overrated, he’s not focused enough to be a field leader at shortstop. plus, he can’t drive in runs from 3rd with less than 2 outs to save his life
I….don’t even…..wow.
yeah. words fail sometimes. i know.
do you follow the white sox? i would love to know what kind of mythical drug you are on because you my friend must be in possession one of the greatest narcotics known to man. He is a one of the top 10 shortstops in MLB how you can possibly say he does not have the focus to be a shortstop is idiotic..he has a .283 hitter, avgs 18 HRs, 72RBIs and 13 steals.. please dont speak anymore..
only explanation is that he’s channeling some sort of wicked bad performance art routine. Avant garde!
stop the insanity already
I am officially done rooting for the White Sox until Kenny is fired. Does anyone else in Chicago realize he still has his “all in” team in tact minus Juan Pierre? Why the hell wouldn’t you give all in one more shot, with a couple of bench upgrades, or hey how about we give Viciedo a shot. Dunn and Rios can’t possibly have any worse of a year as last. Morel has a year under his belt. The pitching wasn’t really the problem. But instead KW is going to blow this team up and try and do something new? I don’t get it. I am very frustrated with the Santos move and the team apparently having no loyalty to one of the faces of the franchise, in Buerhle.
I live in Chicago and completely agree. The White Sox, as much as the media denies it, are still a contender on paper even without Buerhle. If anything, they are better with Pierre gone and Viciedo getting a shot in LF. With all of their talent, you have to believe that at least one of Beckham, Dunn, and Rios rebound and it is not a horrible gamble to say that 2 or all 3 of them rebound next season. That fixes the majority of Chicago’s problems right there. However, here’s my idea and I’m sure it will have some negative feedback.
Sign Aramis Ramirez to play 3b with a similar contract to what Buehrle would have cost and possibly package Morel in a deal that helps the team elsewhere. Before people shoot it down, hear me out. Aramis Ramirez repeatedly shot down the Cubs ability to trade him because he wanted to stay in Chicago with his family and keep them settled. He is only leaving now because his contract is up and he wants to play for a contender, which he doesn’t believe the Cubs are building in the near future. If the White Sox had Aramis in their lineup , it would be one of the most powerful lineups in baseball. This lineup is definitely the most powerful in the Central. It needs a leadoff hitter, but maybe packaging Alex Rios and Brett Morel could land them one?
CF) Alex Rios/SS Alexei Ramirez
LF) Dayan Vicieo
1b) Konerko
3b) ARam
RF) Quentin
DH) Dunn
SS/CF) Alexei Ramirez/Alex Rios
C) Pierzynski
2b) Beckham
First of all I don’t get why they are letting Buehrle go. Anyways, if they trade Danks or even Floyd and replace them with Stewart and Sale, that’s gonna be one long summer for White Sox fans.
At this point in their careers, Sale and Stewart have more upside than Buehrle, possibly Floyd. Danks is not likely coming back, so it’s a consideration of whether he’ll be a Type A, and what compensation they can get for letting him walk, or getting something for him now. Best guess is KW waits until the trading deadline, hoping someone will overpay, also checking to see if the Sox will be in the race. The AL central always has, and will continue to be, winnable.
Aramis Ramirez is leaving because he wants more $$$$. No other reason.
Aramis Ramirez is leaving because he wants more $$$$. No other reason.
I live in Chicago and completely agree. The White Sox, as much as the media denies it, are still a contender on paper even without Buerhle. If anything, they are better with Pierre gone and Viciedo getting a shot in LF. With all of their talent, you have to believe that at least one of Beckham, Dunn, and Rios rebound and it is not a horrible gamble to say that 2 or all 3 of them rebound next season. That fixes the majority of Chicago’s problems right there. However, here’s my idea and I’m sure it will have some negative feedback.
Sign Aramis Ramirez to play 3b with a similar contract to what Buehrle would have cost and possibly package Morel in a deal that helps the team elsewhere. Before people shoot it down, hear me out. Aramis Ramirez repeatedly shot down the Cubs ability to trade him because he wanted to stay in Chicago with his family and keep them settled. He is only leaving now because his contract is up and he wants to play for a contender, which he doesn’t believe the Cubs are building in the near future. If the White Sox had Aramis in their lineup , it would be one of the most powerful lineups in baseball. This lineup is definitely the most powerful in the Central. It needs a leadoff hitter, but maybe packaging Alex Rios and Brett Morel could land them one?
CF) Alex Rios/SS Alexei Ramirez
LF) Dayan Vicieo
1b) Konerko
3b) ARam
RF) Quentin
DH) Dunn
SS/CF) Alexei Ramirez/Alex Rios
C) Pierzynski
2b) Beckham
Yeah, I’d sorta rather see them TRY this season. It’s possible Dunn has a big bounce back and Rios stops being terrible. Having those two perform like they should makes that lineup much better. The pitching would be a little lackluster without Buerhle (whom they should re-sign). But if they re-signed Buerhle, a Buerhle-Danks-floyd-Peavy-Sale rotation looks above-average.
The team has the pieces, but dealing Santos leaves a hole at closer that I’m not sure they can fill with anyone they have, other than a rather untested Reed, or a bleh Frasor. Here’s hoping the Sox either completely blow this thing up, or stop now.
Of course, if KW can get a solid return for Danks, I suppose the rotation can be effective if they sign another SP and hope Humber/Stewart can be a 4th/5th starter.
You will hear me crying all the way from Chicago if they trade Danks or Quentin.
Why, what have they done with them? And does anyone even recall how Danks or Quentin landed on the Sox to begin with?
ChiSox rebuilding? I feel sorry for Ventura.
I’m surprised Pierzynski wasn’t named as a trade candidate, what with the dearth of legit catchers available.
He has 10-5 rights
Why would any team want him? He cant catch, hit or throw.
he actually hit well last year and put up a .728 ops. he cannot throw but he blocks pitches well.
It is clear he is posturing for the best deal possible. The fact that so many people here take everything said so literal while claiming to be knowledgeable about baseball is ridiculous.
Everyone wants to say KW is a horrible exec,m but MANY people were picking the White Sox to win the division last year. Now things went bad and you all want to jump ship and start with the front running.
The guy ran the team that had the 4th highest payroll in the majors, has the worst farm system in the majors and finished below .500. If that’s not enough reason to call him a “horrible exec” nothing ever will be for you.
Worst farm system is subjective and can vary greatly from year to year. He built a team MANY people thought could win the division and the players didn’t perform, that’s on more than just him. It’s on the manager and players as well.
I’m not saying he is the greatest, but this “horrible” thing is a bit of a stretch.
I don’t think it’s a stretch at all. Kenny Williams is easily and by far the worst GM in baseball.
The guy hasn’t made anything close to an intelligent trade since 06 and his farm system is ranked as dead last by Baseball Prospectus, Baseball America and Hardball Times.
The players didn’t perform because as a whole, he brought in bad players and had nothing on the farm to back them up if something didn’t work out.
Rios, Beckham, AJ, Pierre, Peavy…………..
wow
Am i the only one who read that we have been in contact with Aaron Rowand?
idk about any of you but if im rebuilding i dont want Aaron Rowand anywere near my team…some of the things people say on here blow my mind.. rios and morel for a leadoff hitter? we might be able to trade those 2 for a fungo bat a bucket of balls and a pack of big league chew, while eatting 85-90% of the owed salary.. A-Ram? yeah sure lets just toss more money to aging players thats a great idea while were at it, i think willy mo pena is still available and maybe we can trade for barry zito to replace buerhle.. And if Dunn starts sucking balls again maybe resign Manny we all know how KW loves bringing guys back for a 2nd tour after he lets them go…seriously can some of you people think about what your saying before you post it.
Am i the only one who read that we have been in contact with Aaron Rowand?
idk about any of you but if im rebuilding i dont want Aaron Rowand anywere near my team…some of the things people say on here blow my mind.. rios and morel for a leadoff hitter? we might be able to trade those 2 for a fungo bat a bucket of balls and a pack of big league chew, while eatting 85-90% of the owed salary.. A-Ram? yeah sure lets just toss more money to aging players thats a great idea while were at it, i think willy mo pena is still available and maybe we can trade for barry zito to replace buerhle.. And if Dunn starts sucking balls again maybe resign Manny we all know how KW loves bringing guys back for a 2nd tour after he lets them go…seriously can some of you people think about what your saying before you post it.