FRIDAY, 10:24am: Manny is not asking for an extension, according to Rosenthal on Twitter.
THURSDAY, 9:17pm: The White Sox will know by Friday afternoon if they can or will get Ramirez, reports Mark Gonzalez of the Chicago Tribune.
7:55am: The Dodgers and White Sox have have discussed a potential Manny Ramirez trade, but according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports, Los Angeles has spoken to at least one other team about the 38-year-old. The Rays and Rangers are interested in Ramirez, though the Dodgers are not fully committed to making a trade.
Ramirez wants a one-year extension to waive his no-trade clause, a source tells Rosenthal and Morosi. If he clears waivers, Ramirez could have the leverage to make such demands, but if a team claims him, the Dodgers would only be able to negotiate with that club. The White Sox intend to claim Ramirez, according to FOX, though that won’t necessarily happen.
Teams have until the end of the week to claim Ramirez, who hit waivers yesterday. If he’s claimed, the Dodgers will have until Tuesday afternoon to work out a deal. Click here to vote on whether a National League team wil claim Ramirez and here for more detail on trading in August.
Manny is going to remain a Dodger for the rest of the season.
I don’t know about that, but if he does I wouldn’t be completely surprised. I just don’t want to say it yet but I will say this, if he does want an extension, he isn’t going to waive his no-trade
Do they really have to trade him… I mean can’t they just let the WS or whoever claims him have him?
Yeah definetly.
But he has some value.
Dodgers desperately need the payroll relief.
That’s not true, not at this point in the season. Ramirez was gone at seasons end as a free agent.
I wonder if that would scare the White Sox away
Why would it scare them away? If they claim him he has no leverage to make that demand. The Sox just say “come here or stay in LA”. No other team can claim him once the Sox make the claim. If Ramirez doesn’t want to come unless he gets an extension, then he stays in LA.
I totally agree. If Manny pulls this stuff and demands an additional year, the Sox walk away. He will come to Chicago without the extension because its in his best interest to do so if he wants to play next year.
Having him trip and roll around the outfield the rest of this year can only lower the money he will make next year. Hes the very definition of a DH at this point in his career and he knows it. He comes to Chicago, hits like he can, and some AL team will give him a deal after this season.
he makes that demand he will stay put.
I kinda want this to happen to hear the hilarious Boras quotes on why a 38 year old needs $20 million more even with the year he’s having.
I’m really starting to dislike Manny. Just play the game.
Dodgers are 5.5 games back of wild card? When there is like 4 teams ahead of you its pretty hard to win that
Dodgers are 5.5. back and a team who’s 9.5 wants to claim him
White Sox are only 3.5 games back of Minnesota
Thanks tips
Wouldn’t surprise me if Manny stays though. Especially if he wants an extension.
I love Manny. He’s crazy-like a fox! He’s not only a great hitter, but has the uncanny ability to throw a monkey wrench into the best laid plans of every team he’s played on.
That’s just Manny Being Manny!
*cue laugh track*
Yeah, like that time he helped Boston win two World Series!
He’s not gonna destroy a team in one month. If anything, he has extra incentive to be great, because of his impending free agency.
I never said he was going to destroy any team. My point is that his actions to get whatever he wants always takes precedence over any of his teams needs. He did help Boston win two series, but he also hurt their chances when he decided that an extension was more important than getting to a third series. He’s been great for the Dodgers, but he’s looking for another extension, and doesn’t care what team pays it.
have any of the NL teams in competition been mentioned as looking into claiming him? Atlanta has a combo of Ankiel, Hinske, Diaz, and Cabrera in the OF with Heyward. With this being Bobby Cox’ farewell tour, and so much of Manny’s salary being deferred, why wouldn’t the Braves be in?
For that matter, the Reds and Cardinals also have questions in their outfield. The Padres do as well, but I can see financial issues being a deterrent for them.
Cards could use him, but they probably wouldn’t do it because they’d have to move Holliday from left field. I could see the Braves doing it, especially now that the Phillies have their regulars back (not that it’s helping them much, they’re losing to Houston again as I type). He hasn’t been nearly the clubhouse disaster with the Dodgers that the Red Sox would like us all to believe.
I could see the Reds taking him, he can’t be much worse defensively than Gomes and he gives them another solid hitter besides Votto. Baker managed Bonds and Kent, so he could handle Manny. I could definitely see the Padres taking a chance on him as well. They could claim him and trade a prospect to the Dodgers to get them to at least pay the deferred amount. Gives them a better offense going into the postseason.
he was a disaster there. It’s not just Boston blowing smoke. The guy quit, plain & simple.
I don’t see the Braves bothering w/ the headcase Manny.
TRUE DAT!!!
I wouldn’t mind a “quitter” that was hitting nearly .300 with 20 homers, and is one of the huge reasons your team won two World Championships after decades of futility. Boston has a strange way of rewarding their players -Nomar, Damon, Pedro, and Manny were all vilified after they left.
Nomar was villified, really?
In his case, the team trashed him more than the fans, and not to the extent of Damon or Manny, but yeah, I remember stories questioning his ability and heart.
Manny will end up in Atlanta, they wont give him an extension, but he will accept the trade because he knows it will give him a better chance to build his value for a contract in the off season than staying in LA would.
God I hope not.
Bobby Cox throws away a potential elite SS because he doesn’t like his baseball play.. Yeah I don’t think hes coming to ATL
ahh man, why was my comment not approved. Pathetic. lol
Everyone needs a little Manny hate right?
Well you’ve got to give to Boras and Manny on this one, because this is the last bit of leverage he has. Have fun staying with the Dodgers. Anyone that gives him an extension ought to be fired.
Pirates are going to claim him and have an outfield with the longest hair ever with Manny, McCutchen and Milledge.
Not going to happen. If you believe the papers, he would be making more than the owners.
very smart move by manny. they will probably offer a 1yr- 10million dollar deal. the white sox line up would be loaded with manny.
Anybody else intrigued by the reversal in roles from last year? Last year the Sox gave Thome to LA for pretty much nothing… maybe there is a method to Kenny’s madness, creating good-standing relationships with various teams. It would be nice to acquire Manny for little to nothing.
And I would definitely be content with a 1yr-$10 mil contract.
I think KW was being a nice to THome.
I want the girl from 4e and a hot tub.
Imagine Manny as a Yankee….Yikes !
no way he would pass throught he bo sox and the rays to get to the yankees. It would be nuts but simply will not happen
the yankees have the first choice before the rays…they have tied records and the rays won the head to head.
doesn’t it go by last year record, which still has the Yankees last. Besides, it depends on when he was placed on waivers, not today
dear lord…imagine that lineup?
gardner…jeter…cano…..a-rod…texiera
…manny…swisher…posada…granderson…
thats just ridiculous right there…
Hmmm… Manny and Belliard waived at same time. Support-system package?
Who knows if he can still hit. Someone will be taking a big financial risk on a guy who has missed a lot of the last two seasons w/injuries and has always been lousy defensively. I would only offer an incentive laden deal that might add up to $10 mil to be a dh on a contender..
look at the highlights last night. The ball is still flying off his bat at an amazing speed. He can still hit
He has an OPS of .920. Yes he can still hit.
Very interesting to say the least. If there was an incentive (Based on AB) laden contract offer, he could play for a host of teams. The production is there when he is able stay on the field. If Boras/Manny would agree to that type of contract, even the Dodgers might be interested in an extension. My take is that will not happen, and he will end up as a DH somewhere for 8-10 mil somewhere in the AL in 2011 or retire.
I can’t understand why teams still want to put up with the Manny act. It made some sense when he was an irresistible force. Now that he’s hiding from his mortality by heading to the DL before slumps can take hold, how is it worth any gamble with your clubhouse?
what has manny done? I love how everyone jumps on the clubhouse nuisance band wagon with no proof of anything, they just read stories from reporters trying to SELL and believe everything they hear.
Manny isn’t talking to the media. Hence, he’s a clubhouse problem. Same old, same old, burned out underachievers in the sports media, using what little power they have to get back at someone who isn’t playing their game.
I don’t know how you get the idea that because someone doesn’t talk to the media they are a clubhouse problem. Sounds like a problem with the media and not with the rest of the team.
That was my point exactly. He isn’t a clubhouse problem except in the version the media tells, working out its own resentments. The media almost always turns on players who stop cooperating with them, and in some cases, tries to wreck their careers or force them out of town.
This crap is overdone from Boston. All he has done since coming to LA is become a leader that the young guys look up to. He is loved by the guys, and even past teammates, just ask Randy Wolf, one of the more respected pitchers in the game…
Oh yeah Kemp is doing great looking up to Manny. Picking up his same bad lazy habits. Of course you don’t buy anything from Boston, but stop trying to put all blame on them. Quiter/cheater Manny is no innocent.
A lot of blame goes on Boston, both the fans and FO. The fans made Manny’s and his kids life a living hell. Literally. Imagine not being able to bring your kids to a game because you have to worry about their well being. Then try to play baseball in the frame of mind. It is the FO’s fault for letting Manny get away with things. Look, he was their 160M prize and that usually gets you special treatment. But the FO let it get really bad while turning their check the other way.
Kemp is a different topic all together. I will point out these two things. One, his BABIP is 50 points lower than his career norm. If you even it out to his career norm, he has a 291/345/478 line. If you leave his BABIP alone and only focus on the less number of linedrives, you will also be shocked. As of about two weeks ago, Kemp’s LD percentage was down to a level compared to last year where he should have 15 more LDs. Because 80 percentage fall in, hed have 15 more hits and be hitting 297. So chill, he has simply been unlucky this year.
Poor Matt Kemp the General manager, then the old school third base coach called him out for lacksidasical play. It is hard on poor kemp to make a full effort out on the field. Another Mondesi in the making a million dollar talent, and a two cent brain. Of course he is distracted by Rhianna, but the Mick was distracted by the New York night life. Anyway put Kemp on waivers for a few cases of baseballs.LOL
Now you seem to love the fact that the coaches are calling him out. If you want that, why didn’t they call out Loney, who is hitting barely above 200 since the ASB, Andre, who is hitting in the 250 range since the pinkie injury, or Martin, who was hitting something like 230? Why? Because they decided they wanted to make a point by going after the most talented player on the team. Bullshit. Guys with 30-40 years of expierence calling out the next young star because he is the same player as last year, except he is having a statistically unlucky year. Hell, why hasn’t Bowa come out multiple times when his coaching decisions cost us games? Yea, everytime a guy is thrown out 1st to 3rd or 2nd to home, it is Bowa who sent him. Hell, what about the game a couple days ago when Manny was out by 10 feet and the replay showed Bowa not only didn’t give him a sign, but then nearly ran into him? Or how about when he sent Reed Johnson and he was out by 40 feet? The sad thing is there are many people like you who think he did the right thing.
Chill out, you are going to blow your gasket.Anyway Kemp has talent but playing baseball seems to big a burden for him. The Market Value on this guy is going to be nothing as soon as he Implodes. Time to trade him, maybe for a young arm. I guess Rhianna is like that AM PM commerical ” too much good stuff” and he has no energy or desire left to play ball. Who would. LOL
Yes a great role model. A fifty game suspension for using Illlegal medication that cycles you off of steroids. Of course lets not forget about his shiftless efforts in the field. He is as good of a role model, as Mr. McCourt has been.
Through that all, there is an argument that he has been at least an OK role model. Why? He has an OPS that is most likely above 900 with this team. Whether you love him or hate him, he has hit and I’m sure he has provided many tips for Kemp and Andre along the way
“…No proof of anything…” I suppose smacking a 60 something year old team traveling Secretery around was made up by the press. Or claiming that he had a bad knee and not remembering which one it was when taken to the doctors for an MRI was contrived. Being called out by Pedroia,Youkilis and his boy, Big Papi for letting a pop fly fall in left field and then falling and rolling on it ,was made up by the mean Boston media. You should just say ‘I love Manny’ and leave it at that.
Rut row, LAD 5 GB back in WC standings now with Philly & Giants in their immediate future… Manny may be pulled back if they keep winning.
5 games back with 40 left to play is huge. BP has them at just a 3.47% chance of making the playoffs.
I have 3.47% chance that BP has effectively capped well.
hello all i have a question if manny or any of the other 4 that were place on waivers get traded will we get someone big in return not minor leaguer because the dodgers are still in contension for the wild card
If we trade Manny, it is them saying ‘the season is done and we are going to let guys get ABs, possibly prospects’. Lets say the Dodgers win tomorrow and come within 4 games…. if they dont like what whatever team won the claim is offering, they could very well pull him back. This is a different team with Manny.
As for the trade, it will either be a prospect who isnt on the 40 man roster, or if it is a guy on the 40 man(for example, Dayan Viciedo from the Sox… not saying we will get him to the Sox fans who will read this and freak out, but the Dodgers need a 3B prospect and I believe there were rumors the Sox dangled him at the trade deadline for Manny), he would be a PTBNL and would be officially traded in the offseason, when he no longer needs to clear waivers
usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2010-08-27-manny-rami…
looks like Dodgers are going to give it one more try for the Wild Card. And keep him.
time to move on from what I read on USA Today the Dodgers will keep him for one last run for the Wild Card.
From what you hear? Are you a major league GM? lol
I think Colletti feels the Dodgers are still in it.
I agree. Especially if the Dodgers win 2 or 3 games in Colorado this weekend.
I’m not really sure why we should even care about Manny at this point.
Too many things out of the Sox control have to happen for this deal to get done – not hopeful.