Burns DID NOT want to play on the East Coast. He would have been minimum a 250+MM investment and if he didn’t work out you would be right back on here saying Mets shouldn’t have paid that much for Burns. It’s easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight.
This. I wonder if Yoshida were available to start the season would Devers have been the one starting on the IL with the 20 day rehab assignment. Some of it may be mental but you can see in the rare times he does make contact that its soft contact.
The team may have been better off breaking camp with Marcelo Mayer and letting Devers get ready on the IL
Whilst I agree, maybe there's something of a glimmer there. Ideally we'd be grabbing a quality somebody off the Extended roster otherwise we're right back to square one!
mlb, I like your takes. But it seems important that you want to win debates with stats. That’s fine. My takes come from field level, generally. Long experience in dugouts. Too long
Have a nice eve
Ooof….. Rotation depth is right in the Yankees wheelhouse, but with the number of guys that have gone down already I don’t know if they would be willing to part with anyone of value. As far as outfielders, there’s some potential with Everson Periera (big power but lots of swing-and-miss), but I don’t know if he would be enough of a centerpiece to get a deal done, honestly. Eguy, even buying low, seems more valuable imho.
Braves needed 2 starters before the season, plus 75-80% of the bullpen needed a turnover! But, instead we got less than desirable or questionable low budget outfield depth, but NO pitching depth! All of the low cost pitchers they did aquire will be DFAed after 2-3 appearances! Verdugo may be the exception that will actually help the team!
I am not even including Profar in this mess right now because as Will Smith said..he's irrelevant!!
He’s not alone in commenting on his borderline reckless lack of activity to shore up depth. Maybe they’re about to sell the team and there’s a mandate we don’t know. Or maybe he’s right and AA neglected pitching while we’re in the primes of some generational players.
I think that was Hancock’s last turn as a starter in Seattle. The shine is off that penny. Hopefully reclaim some value with a nice minors run or become a reliever.
Bum - That's like saying all the Red Sox have to do is make the World Series .... easier said than done.
As long as Crochet can give at least 180 innings of sub-3 ERA pitching, I'll be very happy. Even if it's 2.99 ERA over 181 innings, I'm good then. I don't expect Skubal 2024 numbers.
6 weeks of spring training and all of a sudden Bender needs to work out issues. Then in game number 6 of the season they bring up Harrington to solve thier problems. Shows how sad management is. Panic management never works. Time to get a real Manger and pitching coach. They have had 5 years with no positive results.
@Piazza.."Yeah you losers are fully"...Let them have their fun, after one week of the extremely long baseball season. Tell them to check back in 6-8 weeks and we'll see where all these teams they stand.
The amateurs, wannabees and beginners that read a lot into the first 4 or 5 games of the extra long baseball season, will soon find out that baseball is not necessarily like some of the other major sports.
In the NFL 3 straight losses is catastrophic and virtually ends your season. But not baseball, where they play 162.
This from a guy who watches Mets & Yankees 4x per week, but doesn't root for them.
And the reality everyone needs to face is that he only ever produced in SD. COL was a train wreck, and this is actually worse. Braves are stuck with him unless they eat a lot of the contract and trade him back to SD for a lottery ticket.
Oh, here we go again with the "one series away". for the Mets. The Mets were also the last team in MLB to make the playoffs and were one pitch away from losing in the wildcard series, if you want to play semantics like that.
A 160 million dollar mistake is easier to stomach than a 300 million dollar one it would be if a deal wasn't reached. All he has to do is stay healthy to make this good deal for Boston.
Not sure if you heard about a report where the Pirates lost money last year, not sure how. Seen a video with DK and former Pirates discussing it. Basically Nutting is crying poor and praying for a cap.
Again, confidence comes from success. Success comes from working hard to refine pitches. I’m sure David knows this. His dad was a helluva coach.
I’ve watched Bednar for many years. Your stats are well taken but again, he’s relied too much on trying to overpower.
Jones already injured twice. Harrington doesn’t look to have mlb quality stuff. Chandler should be a beast but they need to stay healthy. Easier said than done.
The Sox beat the Tigers to the punch and set the floor for extensions.
Skubal was able to recover from 2 surgeries before winning the Cy Young. Fans are willing to give him money without batting an eye, while theres parallel worry about $170M to a 26 yr old with less pitches on his arm and less arm surgeries.
Skubal had TJ in 2016, still got drafted. He became a full time MLB SP for DET in 2021, then had a flexor tendon surgery the following yr in 2022. Just 2 yrs after the 2ND arm surgery he wins the Cy Young and is about to get $200M+.
2021 - Skubal's first yr as full time MLB SP = 149.1 innings across 31 G and 29 GS. Rounding liberally to 149.1 IP/31 GS = 5 IP/GS
2024 - Crochet 1st yr as full time MLB SP = 146 IP/31 GS = 4 2/3 IP per start (suppressed innings by WSox)
Skubal - 2021 634 BF & 2547 pitches thrown - 1.26 WHIP; 4.34 ERA & 5.58 xERA; 9.9 K/9; 15.5 Pitch/SO…..Entire career as SP, 4 yrs removed from TJ & 2 yrs from flexor
Crochet - 2024 595 BF & 2395 pitches thrown - 1.07 WHIP; 3.59 ERA & 2.85 xERA; 12.9K/9; 11.5 Pitch/SO…..1st pro yr as SP, 2 yrs removed from TJ
Arms blow up easily now a days, and arms heal to Cy Young caliber as well.
I’d like to see him and Stratton back. Both pretty good power arms.
Yeah Carmen is not a starter imo but still early in the process. Gonna need a long reliever or two to eat up some innings. Probably vs the Yankees as well with how they’re hitting.
Never bothered commenting on your nonsensical posts until today. After previously wasting time reading your "thoughts," I've skipped most of the garbage you babble about. Will definitely do so to all of it in the future.
For starts how about all the Poison Ivy League schools like Columbia,Harvard,Penn, etc. Then toss in your Cali Libturd factory Berkeley. Should I keep going ? Don't you have to go clean up the SF hobo street patties & used needles anyway instead of posting here ?
"Brought in Jose Iglesias on a minor league contract"...This guy had the season of his life last year and almost became a folk hero in the process.
And all his agents could get him was a $3M non guaranteed deal? This guy set himself up for , at minimum, a 2 year $10M-$12M deal.
This may be the worst case of agency I've ever seen. It makes you wonder how many $5M-$8M deals Iglesias and his agents turned down, as they seemingly overplayed their hand.
If I were Jose Iglesias I'd definitely fire my agency, because their late signing strategy clearly didn't work and Mr. Iglesias lost money that he seemingly earned.
You have me mixed up with your Mom & all the women (Trannies???) in your life.BUTT THEY LOVE IT IN ALL 3 HOLES NOT JUST ONE ! Knowing you have incurable TDS you probably fantasize about having him in both your holes too. Bye Bye !
What I'm refering to is that his curveball has been his out pitch. Every year since his rookie season (including 2022, 2023, and even 2024), it had the highest put away rate between any of his three pitches. That's also not entierly true about his fastball either though. Bednar's four-seam fastball usage rate has mostly stayed the same since his 2021 rookie year. His lowest FB% was 53.7% in 2022 and his highest was 57.9% in 2023. Last year it was 55.5%, and in 2021, it was 55.1%. I don't think his pitch usage is anywhere close to the problem right now. I believe the Pirates have decent pitching coaches. Dewy Robinson is a renowned pitching expert the Pirates brought into the org a few years ago, and they added Brent Strom this offseason. Again, I think his confidence needs help more than anything.
Likeable guy, but his numbers are pretty atrocious. Not shocked. I was surprised that he's hung on this long and I think someone will give hime slightly above league minium on a split deal next year and he can claw his way back to a 40 man roster making $850k or so- great income if you can get it!
one important aspect of the need for a closer is scoring enough runs to get a good pitcher into the 9th to save the win.
This team doesn’t do that.
So it might not matter who the closer is from game to game
Not as true in Southern California.
True impact is important, of course. I’m not talking about drafting local high school all star players just for effect
YBC - Sorry for the delayed appearance, it was a brutal travel day home from Arlington/Dallas because of the weather delays. Four hour delay, and we even had to de-plane after boarding the first time.
American Airlines doesn't offer complementary WIFI like JetBlue and other airlines, so I was totally oblivious about the breaking news.
Mariners 2025 rotation: Good, eh, decent, good, absolutely f***ing horrible, and now even more absolutely f***ing horrible. Last year whenever Diaz pitched, he s*** himself and tried to hide it, and somehow, everyone knew he stunk, except Mariners management, because they also s*** themselves.
Last night Hancock’s sinker wasn’t sinking, his sweeper wasn’t sweeping, his change wasn’t changing, and his fastball…just wasn’t that fast. He was practically throwing batting practice. And now we have another pitch who throws batting practice. The only difference is Diaz is a lefty.
If you’re referring to his curve from his first big season here, agreed. But he became what Keller is at times: an enigma who can no longer “get the feel” for his spin pitch. The Bednar of the past two seasons relied on heat for virtually everything. And batters took note and caught up
I think he can be a good pitcher too. Do the Pirates have any true pitching coaches in their system? That’s the question
If you ask me, they should keep Harrington in the Majors, move Mlodzinski back to the bullpen, and let Santana, Mlodzinski, and Borucki handle the late/high-leverage innings. Play it by match-up/whoever is avaiable, and work from there. If one of them steps up their game, then you can set someone in a more typical closer role.
I did watch his games, I watched him become an all-star, twice, his painful blown saves last year, and his blow up games this year. I still do not think his stuff is bad as a whole. Yeah, he leaned heavily on heat, but so do most relievers. His splitter was a legitimate off-speed pitch. He could locate it well and got a ton of swings and misses in 2021-2023. Most relievers only have 1, maybe two plus offerings. Bednar had (and still has) 3. His out pitch was actually his curveball, as it had the highest put-away percentage of any of his three offerings since his 2021 rookie year. I still believe he can be a good pitcher, but he needs to regain his command, and more importantly, his confidence.
Still hoping the Yankees swing a trade for Eguy. He’d be an improvement over Pablo Reyes, who can’t seem to field. He’d has more potential upside and is younger to boot.
…Tommy PHAM!
Here for your entertainment
$60 million more according to SI.
Still better than the Mets
Perry Minasian can't trade with any other team. Even his brother won't trade with him.
I hope that was before the offseason. They did little to nothing to improve.
"Waaaahhh!!!🤣
I hope some of this crap sticks to the wall
If he doesn't use steroids again and gets caught
Bednar may be an ideal change of scenery candidate. A new organization and a new set of eyes might get him back on track
They aren't beating the Phillies. The pitching is too big of a hurdle for the Braves to overcome.
Burns DID NOT want to play on the East Coast. He would have been minimum a 250+MM investment and if he didn’t work out you would be right back on here saying Mets shouldn’t have paid that much for Burns. It’s easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight.
This. I wonder if Yoshida were available to start the season would Devers have been the one starting on the IL with the 20 day rehab assignment. Some of it may be mental but you can see in the rare times he does make contact that its soft contact.
The team may have been better off breaking camp with Marcelo Mayer and letting Devers get ready on the IL
Whilst I agree, maybe there's something of a glimmer there. Ideally we'd be grabbing a quality somebody off the Extended roster otherwise we're right back to square one!
mlb, I like your takes. But it seems important that you want to win debates with stats. That’s fine. My takes come from field level, generally. Long experience in dugouts. Too long
Have a nice eve
Ooof….. Rotation depth is right in the Yankees wheelhouse, but with the number of guys that have gone down already I don’t know if they would be willing to part with anyone of value. As far as outfielders, there’s some potential with Everson Periera (big power but lots of swing-and-miss), but I don’t know if he would be enough of a centerpiece to get a deal done, honestly. Eguy, even buying low, seems more valuable imho.
Totally unacceptable
Not the start to the season the Braves envisioned I'd imagine. Lots of time to get things going though
The 2025 braves are an absolute mess
And to Mt Warshington and then Sou-side
Rotation depth? Future outfielder??
Bunch of yinzer jagoffs goin dahntahn.
Braves needed 2 starters before the season, plus 75-80% of the bullpen needed a turnover! But, instead we got less than desirable or questionable low budget outfield depth, but NO pitching depth! All of the low cost pitchers they did aquire will be DFAed after 2-3 appearances! Verdugo may be the exception that will actually help the team!
I am not even including Profar in this mess right now because as Will Smith said..he's irrelevant!!
Firesale
On a scale of John Goodman to John Candy, how fat does he get in retirement?
Cheap ah braves already paying for being...cheap.
He’s not alone in commenting on his borderline reckless lack of activity to shore up depth. Maybe they’re about to sell the team and there’s a mandate we don’t know. Or maybe he’s right and AA neglected pitching while we’re in the primes of some generational players.
I think that was Hancock’s last turn as a starter in Seattle. The shine is off that penny. Hopefully reclaim some value with a nice minors run or become a reliever.
Pile it on, why don’t ya
Yeah sign pitchers and then where do they fit in the rotation if no one gets hurt? Lotta hindsight in these comments.
If only the Braves medical staff had an easier physical.
AA has made some brilliant moves, for sure. But sometimes he gets caught huffing his own farts.
Gwynning, what do the Padres need most at the moment?
That sucks Braves fans. Next man up!
It’s real easy (and requires no brain cells) to be a Tuesday morning QB.
Bum - That's like saying all the Red Sox have to do is make the World Series .... easier said than done.
As long as Crochet can give at least 180 innings of sub-3 ERA pitching, I'll be very happy. Even if it's 2.99 ERA over 181 innings, I'm good then. I don't expect Skubal 2024 numbers.
ERA matters not K’s
Spencer strider fanned a million guys but performed like a 3rd starter
So glad they gave Profar a 3 year 40 million dollar deal instead of signing ANY pitchers
6 weeks of spring training and all of a sudden Bender needs to work out issues. Then in game number 6 of the season they bring up Harrington to solve thier problems. Shows how sad management is. Panic management never works. Time to get a real Manger and pitching coach. They have had 5 years with no positive results.
@Piazza.."Yeah you losers are fully"...Let them have their fun, after one week of the extremely long baseball season. Tell them to check back in 6-8 weeks and we'll see where all these teams they stand.
The amateurs, wannabees and beginners that read a lot into the first 4 or 5 games of the extra long baseball season, will soon find out that baseball is not necessarily like some of the other major sports.
In the NFL 3 straight losses is catastrophic and virtually ends your season. But not baseball, where they play 162.
This from a guy who watches Mets & Yankees 4x per week, but doesn't root for them.
They’re still winning this division. Damnit
Me inside is so mad at AA for not getting a pitcher
Indicative of the Braves start to the season.
@Fly
Thats not exactly what imply means and the phrase "under the implication" seems like it was pretty clear for the point I was making.
Arguing semantics rather than what you know I meant and its merits seems pointless. Would rather hear your opinion on the actual topic.
I think he meant to say Rosario. It's a typo.
Bigly.
I like change of scenery angle. Bednar and that 19 yr old from Uganda to Baltimore for in need of scenery change Mountcastle.
And the reality everyone needs to face is that he only ever produced in SD. COL was a train wreck, and this is actually worse. Braves are stuck with him unless they eat a lot of the contract and trade him back to SD for a lottery ticket.
The big winner here is Kelenic. If Profar hadn’t gotten busted and started the year just above average, JK would have been DFAd by May or June.
Man… what a jerk you are.
I thought either of Wade or Rosario would be a good fit on the Angels and really cheap.
Oh, here we go again with the "one series away". for the Mets. The Mets were also the last team in MLB to make the playoffs and were one pitch away from losing in the wildcard series, if you want to play semantics like that.
Esteury? Kinda already traded him...
Lol
Wade called his shadow off to make the catch!
Ah, yes. I forgot Manny took the same thing. Wasn't that when he got a season-long ban and just retired?
Some team can probably get him on a buy low trade maybe Texas.
A 160 million dollar mistake is easier to stomach than a 300 million dollar one it would be if a deal wasn't reached. All he has to do is stay healthy to make this good deal for Boston.
Not sure if you heard about a report where the Pirates lost money last year, not sure how. Seen a video with DK and former Pirates discussing it. Basically Nutting is crying poor and praying for a cap.
*Correction, I meant every year including his rookie season (including 2021, 2022, 2023, and even 2024).
Again, confidence comes from success. Success comes from working hard to refine pitches. I’m sure David knows this. His dad was a helluva coach.
I’ve watched Bednar for many years. Your stats are well taken but again, he’s relied too much on trying to overpower.
Why lie?
Well, I didn’t ask you to list colleges. This is what I asked you:
“Please tell me how a college is a brainwash factory.“
Trolls like you are just getting out of hand on this site, might as well mute you.
It is until it isn’t. Look at Miami.
Jones already injured twice. Harrington doesn’t look to have mlb quality stuff. Chandler should be a beast but they need to stay healthy. Easier said than done.
The Sox beat the Tigers to the punch and set the floor for extensions.
Skubal was able to recover from 2 surgeries before winning the Cy Young. Fans are willing to give him money without batting an eye, while theres parallel worry about $170M to a 26 yr old with less pitches on his arm and less arm surgeries.
Skubal had TJ in 2016, still got drafted. He became a full time MLB SP for DET in 2021, then had a flexor tendon surgery the following yr in 2022. Just 2 yrs after the 2ND arm surgery he wins the Cy Young and is about to get $200M+.
2021 - Skubal's first yr as full time MLB SP = 149.1 innings across 31 G and 29 GS. Rounding liberally to 149.1 IP/31 GS = 5 IP/GS
2024 - Crochet 1st yr as full time MLB SP = 146 IP/31 GS = 4 2/3 IP per start (suppressed innings by WSox)
Skubal - 2021 634 BF & 2547 pitches thrown - 1.26 WHIP; 4.34 ERA & 5.58 xERA; 9.9 K/9; 15.5 Pitch/SO…..Entire career as SP, 4 yrs removed from TJ & 2 yrs from flexor
Crochet - 2024 595 BF & 2395 pitches thrown - 1.07 WHIP; 3.59 ERA & 2.85 xERA; 12.9K/9; 11.5 Pitch/SO…..1st pro yr as SP, 2 yrs removed from TJ
Arms blow up easily now a days, and arms heal to Cy Young caliber as well.
I’d like to see him and Stratton back. Both pretty good power arms.
Yeah Carmen is not a starter imo but still early in the process. Gonna need a long reliever or two to eat up some innings. Probably vs the Yankees as well with how they’re hitting.
Jesse can now go fishing in L.A.! The Braves batters were fishing all last night so they must know where the good fishing holes are!
"Preller said the team was trying to find a trade partner on Ruiz". Who is Ruiz?
Never bothered commenting on your nonsensical posts until today. After previously wasting time reading your "thoughts," I've skipped most of the garbage you babble about. Will definitely do so to all of it in the future.
For starts how about all the Poison Ivy League schools like Columbia,Harvard,Penn, etc. Then toss in your Cali Libturd factory Berkeley. Should I keep going ? Don't you have to go clean up the SF hobo street patties & used needles anyway instead of posting here ?
olm - And somewhere Michael Bolton is wondering where his hair went ;O)
What about their girlfriends?
"Brought in Jose Iglesias on a minor league contract"...This guy had the season of his life last year and almost became a folk hero in the process.
And all his agents could get him was a $3M non guaranteed deal? This guy set himself up for , at minimum, a 2 year $10M-$12M deal.
This may be the worst case of agency I've ever seen. It makes you wonder how many $5M-$8M deals Iglesias and his agents turned down, as they seemingly overplayed their hand.
If I were Jose Iglesias I'd definitely fire my agency, because their late signing strategy clearly didn't work and Mr. Iglesias lost money that he seemingly earned.
Just in..MLB has banned torpedo bats!
They released Delay because they acquired Canario and needed another 40 man spot. This articles neglects to mention the that.
You have me mixed up with your Mom & all the women (Trannies???) in your life.BUTT THEY LOVE IT IN ALL 3 HOLES NOT JUST ONE ! Knowing you have incurable TDS you probably fantasize about having him in both your holes too. Bye Bye !
Bednar needs to learn that football slider.
It can move around bowling pin and torpedo bats with ease.
What I'm refering to is that his curveball has been his out pitch. Every year since his rookie season (including 2022, 2023, and even 2024), it had the highest put away rate between any of his three pitches. That's also not entierly true about his fastball either though. Bednar's four-seam fastball usage rate has mostly stayed the same since his 2021 rookie year. His lowest FB% was 53.7% in 2022 and his highest was 57.9% in 2023. Last year it was 55.5%, and in 2021, it was 55.1%. I don't think his pitch usage is anywhere close to the problem right now. I believe the Pirates have decent pitching coaches. Dewy Robinson is a renowned pitching expert the Pirates brought into the org a few years ago, and they added Brent Strom this offseason. Again, I think his confidence needs help more than anything.
Your approval regarding this matter is yuge, like no one has ever seen before.
coop - How is Crochet closer to free agency, do you mean by a few months? They both were/are eligible for free agency after next season.
Maybe you guys can get Bednar as well when you trade for Heaney in July.
Likeable guy, but his numbers are pretty atrocious. Not shocked. I was surprised that he's hung on this long and I think someone will give hime slightly above league minium on a split deal next year and he can claw his way back to a 40 man roster making $850k or so- great income if you can get it!
one important aspect of the need for a closer is scoring enough runs to get a good pitcher into the 9th to save the win.
This team doesn’t do that.
So it might not matter who the closer is from game to game
The link is to the wrong Jose Suarez yet again. I guess I can give mlbtraderumors credit for consistency.
GaSox - I kinda figured Crochet would be around $150M.
Whatever they give Campbell I'm fine with, something tells me he will be giving a bit of a discount like Xander and Arroyo did (among others).
That photo is mesmerizing
He seemed to get into jams starting at the end of 2023.
Not as true in Southern California.
True impact is important, of course. I’m not talking about drafting local high school all star players just for effect
Who’s going to be the new left winger?
YBC - Sorry for the delayed appearance, it was a brutal travel day home from Arlington/Dallas because of the weather delays. Four hour delay, and we even had to de-plane after boarding the first time.
American Airlines doesn't offer complementary WIFI like JetBlue and other airlines, so I was totally oblivious about the breaking news.
Mariners 2025 rotation: Good, eh, decent, good, absolutely f***ing horrible, and now even more absolutely f***ing horrible. Last year whenever Diaz pitched, he s*** himself and tried to hide it, and somehow, everyone knew he stunk, except Mariners management, because they also s*** themselves.
Last night Hancock’s sinker wasn’t sinking, his sweeper wasn’t sweeping, his change wasn’t changing, and his fastball…just wasn’t that fast. He was practically throwing batting practice. And now we have another pitch who throws batting practice. The only difference is Diaz is a lefty.
If you’re referring to his curve from his first big season here, agreed. But he became what Keller is at times: an enigma who can no longer “get the feel” for his spin pitch. The Bednar of the past two seasons relied on heat for virtually everything. And batters took note and caught up
I think he can be a good pitcher too. Do the Pirates have any true pitching coaches in their system? That’s the question
they haven’t been in contention for 8 years and this season won’t be any different
Rooting for Bednar... and the Bucs (but not against my Pads!)
Hopefully he can tweak his game a smidgen and come back strong for even more All Star appearances. Go Bucs! (Pads first tho)
🙂
Profar was so likable before this too!
Same with Tatis!
Padres are just so humble and awesome
Cool! The question becomes who would you envision being sent? Rumors say Preller is weighing options, so how bad do you want him?
If you ask me, they should keep Harrington in the Majors, move Mlodzinski back to the bullpen, and let Santana, Mlodzinski, and Borucki handle the late/high-leverage innings. Play it by match-up/whoever is avaiable, and work from there. If one of them steps up their game, then you can set someone in a more typical closer role.
Putting the GatorWade on ice...
I did watch his games, I watched him become an all-star, twice, his painful blown saves last year, and his blow up games this year. I still do not think his stuff is bad as a whole. Yeah, he leaned heavily on heat, but so do most relievers. His splitter was a legitimate off-speed pitch. He could locate it well and got a ton of swings and misses in 2021-2023. Most relievers only have 1, maybe two plus offerings. Bednar had (and still has) 3. His out pitch was actually his curveball, as it had the highest put-away percentage of any of his three offerings since his 2021 rookie year. I still believe he can be a good pitcher, but he needs to regain his command, and more importantly, his confidence.
Still hoping the Yankees swing a trade for Eguy. He’d be an improvement over Pablo Reyes, who can’t seem to field. He’d has more potential upside and is younger to boot.
Maybe one good month but more likely he ends the year injured or era over 5. Anything else just enshrine him now