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Once again we have another rich guy asking for Socialism for the rich oligarchs of MLB & the US. No, no more tax cash for rich guys. Go ahead and move somewhere else. At some point American MLB fans and taxpayers with no interest in baseball are going to have to wake up and stop being blackmailed and forced to give out millions to billionaires. Want taxpayer cash? Taxpayers own all or a piece of the team. Simple. This is nothing new. Lots of soccer clubs, Packers, and O's (used to be) owned by fans. We don't need a handful of rich greedy guys screaming for socialism for them while workers get hammered.
Pads - The irony is if they decide to repair The Trop then the new stadium would have been delayed a year anyway.
Neither the Braves or Red Sox see Grissom as a "weak platoon 2b only"
I bet no other team thought of Grissom that way at the time of the trade.
Meanwhile, I bet at least half the league, likely including the Red Sox, saw Sale as a washed up, shadow of the pitcher he was and only good for a #4 or #5 starter.
Perhaps Sasaki grew up an Ichiro fan and his dream is to play for the Mariners. I’m sure even cheap Dipoto can spend 7 million on an ace
Sad - I see your point, Ray Charles was a jazz icon.
As a Braves fan, I hope Grissom becomes an All-Star caliber 2B for you guys! He is an awesome guy and deserves success
Yes, we’re tired of reading about a team (and stadium) that apparently no one (other than you) cares about. How’s about cutting us some slack?
Rays - Thank you, I've been saying that for years. Stu's cheapness and resulting player churn is a far bigger reason for the low attendance than stadium location.
If your a cubs fan what you just said must really be sad lol that means your team is an absolute joke
I would agree with that over flight times for sure. How many people making that flight how many times when the remote control is 3 feet away?
Ichiro is an icon in Japan you could make the same argument for Seattle.
"You Blewitt!" - A. Sandler
Hey it's the state of baseball. Nobody cares if you hit .220 and hit 40 homers and knock in 100. Nobody even bats an eye. The kid has exactly i year of A ball and killed it. No reason to believe his average won't improve. Maybe I was off about the 5 tool thing a tad but I don't think so right now. All I was saying Is I hope this guy is a difference maker in the pen because the Guardians got a player. I watched him all year. He was drafted in the summer of 23 and rocketed up to #21 on the Cubs list was no fluke. I'll keep following him and hoping nothing happens to him like Brennen Davis. It's all that will stop him. But he's also built like a brick you know what.
There have been several articles out recently regarding the difficulty of selling a house in Tampa and other cities in Florida. The cost of home insurance (storm damage) is among the reasons. I know little about the real estate situation in Florida, but perhaps the Ray's owner does and is just getting ahead of the curve on this issue. Perhaps the politicians in the area are as well. It indeed may not be the best time to invest in a large entertainment venue.
Tampa Bay [Devil] Rays: 1998-2025
I think Rizzo re-signs with the Yankees.
I just hope he signs with a team coming out of a rebuild; the Orioles, Pirates, Tigers, Red Sox (?), Reds, Royals. It'd be nice if he didn't sign on with a pre-made heavyweight and was a cherry-on-top of a sweet bowl of open-window-of-contention sunday!
...but anyway...
Agree but Pirates gave up on him too soon since they wanted to save money.
Nor Los Angeles for it's lakes.
So the teams that have some Japanese reps are top dogs. Darvish/Ohtani/Yamamoto/Imanaga/Yoshida/Ichiro/and that half-Japanese player the Blue Jays picked up. That's the field right there.
You drank some haterade tonight or what?
Pretty much. He's been wanting to leave for years but likely couldn't get it approved by the league or no buyers. It's possible this will give him the out he really wants. We all hate him as an owner and as a person. He has ZERO commitment to even try to build a team or fanbase.
Sell to new owners. Said new owners will do a better job at reaching the local non-snowbird population, advertise more, show commitment to a winning team... To Sternberg it'd just a business, and any risk is too much risk. We don't buy Jerseys because his brand of baseball is to trade off expensive players for cheaper players. If said players get expensive, they are gone as soon as arb hits. I can't overstate how difficult it is to connect to the Rays as a fan/potential fan. He practically does nothing and just expects fans to go to the stadium.
To be honest, here’s the latest on the Rays stadium situation. Nobody f#€king cares.
The fans don’t show up, and MLB and the owner have obviously punted.
hey, they word vomit the same thing to you guys on the east coast as us on the west coast?
Dipoto told us he was going "spend" when the time was right which was like the 21 off-season, cant remember now with all the BS spewing from his mouth.
I think the winter meetings are just the meet up for all the FO's so they can get their lies straight for the year and if a move is made, that's just the extra topping on top.
There's got to be something AA can fleece from Getz and Breslow again...
And Babe Ruth was traded by Boston.
The Alamodome welcomes you until a new stadium is built b/n SA and Austin 😉
If Cust had a career OBP of .292 instead of .374 I would agree with you.
Let's tell the whole story here.
Ryan Helsley is a member of the Cherokee nation. You can disagree with him but his opinion counts a little more than yours or mine does. The Redskins changed their names. The Guardians changed their name. This really isn't off base for him to have issues with the chop. Even if you disagree let's not be so flippant about it.
No I don't see him playing for the Braves. Ever.
Go outside and touch grass.
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Montreal lol get a life
Pool - I'll be right with you the second he actually puts up an excellent season. He's capable but sometimes things just don't work out especially for international signees who often have far less history than HS players who play elite travel baseball.
No doubt you found it to be a dumb take. I'm not surprised. Would love to see you name these 28 players. Teams just have all kinds of former top 100 prospects with mlb success and tons of service time remaining. Should be easy for you. Even though Boston didn't want just any position. They had a need at 2b and there was nothing left to do in the minors for this kid. He was as they say mlb ready.
I would really hope Boston had a much more favorable opinion of him as well. Many thought he could be a good regular or even all star. Some even thought he could stick at ss. They almost certainly didn't see him as a weak platoon.
I find it telling that Manfred didn't say that they were focused on KEEPING their franchise in Tampa Bay.
Brian Scott is lying. The time to do due diligence is before you vote to approve a project, not at the last moment when you know delays will kill the deal by causing large increases in costs.
That was just on offense. He had 4 game saving catches in the 8th or 9th inning.
He wasn't arguably the best pitcher in baseball. That fact has been established beyond a shadow of a doubt.
"'I think given all that’s happened in that market, we’re focused on our franchise in Tampa Bay right now,' [Manfred] added."
Meaningless platitude, like how the NFL totally wanted the San Diego Chargers to take a year to work it out in their existing market before coming back to them to exercise their option to join the Rams in LA. Right.
This whole situation feels like it's all over for the Tampa Bay Rays, and everyone is just posturing.
That is a specious argument and you know it. Once you were shown that your argument was in fact BS, you tried to spin to every pitch.
Pitchers are not involved in every play because they only are involved in the plays involving 20-24 batters per game.
If he started in show his season would have ended in August so same result not enough innings. But yeah if they didn't care about his arm and he pitched all season he most likely wins.
We need yaz in Fenway
IMO the Orioles reached "s--t or get off the pot" stage in 2024, let alone 2025. They can't nibble around the edges any longer, they must fully jump through the open window with WS titles as the goal and not be satisfied with "we're good enough."
We all know where the holes that need to be filled are, so I'm excited to see if the new ownership fills them and how.
(This does not mean spend like the Mets BTW)
Why trade players when you can buy players
Well said, hi flew.
Couldn't have been Skenes. Innings limit.
Curt deserved to be in the HOF but in baseball unlike the NFL and NBA you can’t be an ass and expect to get in (why isn’t Pete rose or Albert belle in?)
Curt lost the fame part in hall of fame, he has no respect anymore
It's a pretty bad look, almost as if the Rays' ownership is privately ok with scuttling the deal and relocating.
Dumb take. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 28 other teams had a “weak platoon” one position only young player they could’ve given up for Sale. Only one of those 28 teams did it. Gotta give credit where credit is due. AA has made a few moves I haven’t been a fan of but this was one of his best.
You are a moron. I followed them. You didn't. I know mccovey and cepeda only played first AFTER the trade. I know Stoneham was the owner and not the GM. Keep blabbing nonsense. I was there and you weren't. I know through my presence. You THINK you know but it's by erroneous and misinformed hindsight...and your inability to read. I know Broglio is more famous for the Brock trade. Who doesnt? But you, NRI, believe that his infamy is for the Giants trade. SIXTY SIX YEARS AGO!!. Google away junior.
If johan Santana or Orel herschiser or David cone was in the hall of fame, degrom deserves to be in it
Yet he doesn’t even have 2k innings, no playoff stuff except when he was young in 2015, NL was easier with no DH, a lot of reasons
If Jacob goes into 2025 and wins a 3rd cy then put him in like sandy koufax but right now it’s uncertain
S-S-S-...Swammy (he says that in the movie too)
Those #'s are for the whole staff; I couldn't separate. Obviously the starters took the hit with injuries and the bullpen burnt out (this also coincides with when Kimbrel imploded).
Anecdotally it seemed the RISP hitting went down in the 2nd half and they seemed to get unlucky too, so I agree to some extent. But even a great offense will struggle to carry a bad pitching staff much above .500.
Come on… there aren’t rays in Utah, just like how 20 years ago there weren’t expos in DC
But Utah is known for their jazz… right?
#RootedInSacramentoUntilWeHopToLasVegas
I think either Salt Lake City or Montreal are the next stops for new teams
Man imagine a nationals and expos rivalry
And if Soto tears a knee? Ohtani tears a shoulder? Good thing, games actually have to be played - championships aren't won on paper.
Portland, Oregon, Montreal, or Salt Lake City Rays sounds fine.
Do they really think the stadium is the problem? What are they gonna do after the new stadium opens and they still struggle to fill half the seats?
Oakland DID pay the shakedown. John Fisher dipped out of the negotiations. He just couldn't afford to build in the Bay
gbs42: Well, he does meet reinsdorf's criteria of being cheap, but I doubt he has enough international signing money to buy Sasaki a hat.
Allin - Agreed. Here is the list of the Red Sox minor league free agents which were with mostly with Worcester.
Royman Blanco
Felix Cepeda
Mark Contreras
Bobby Dalbec
Nick Decker
Dalton Guthrie
Brad Keller
Mark Kolozsvary
Elih Marrero
Alex Speas
Jamie Westbrook
These are just a few of the AAA players who will need to be replaced. So commenters do not need to mention duck boats on every AAA player signed to fill out the Worcester roster.... Someone needs to pitch those innings and get those at bats. MLBtraderumors is not just reporting MLB signings. At least half of their posts identities minor league signings and movements.
You are all making an important point, If a city does not pony up, then their team will be gone. We call it a shake down. My advice is to pay the shake down. I am from Seattle, and I know lots of people wish that we had paid the shake down and kept the Sonics. MLB will probably never be back to Oakland. They should have paid the shake down. If the Rays leave, MLB is gone forever in Tampa. Just pay the shake down.
The Mariners should try for Sasaki. Also close to Japan, Japanese legend Ichiro works for the team, and there's a huge Japanese population in Washington and nearby Vancouver.
Then really go "raise the ceiling" & sign Fried
If the public is funding some or all of a stadium, in any sport, why does the public have to pay to get inside said stadium to watch?
Wasn't the tab already paid in advance?
Yes he had 23 starts a 1.96 ERA and 8 no decisions. A run here and there he’s at 15 wins and this conversation isn’t happening.
Merrill put up ROY numbers no doubt he just did it in the season of Skenes.
Abreu, Valdez & ?? to ChiSox for Crochet & Quero...sounds good to me! Anthony is knocking on the door to be let in.
Completely true.
mrkinsm: If they sign Sasaki and Soto, then yes.
Not even the winner predicted the win
shouldve been skenes
Thanks for agreeing with me on hindsight.
Cepeda played hundreds of games in the outfield as did McCovey so you're wrong there.
McDowell was a drunk who was washed up while Gaylord won 2 Cy Youngs
You should read McDowell's autobiography "The Saga of Sudden Sam".
Foster turned into a monster winning an MVP and two rings.
Don't worry because Henderson was traded along future Cy Young (again!) winner Steve Stone.
Cepeda got his ring and an MVP with St. Louis while they got the league leader in losses. Sadecki was traded later for nobody's
Broglio was traded to St Louis for a pile of nobody's had his best years then shipped to the Cubs for Lou Brock!
Maddox ,Mathews. Bonds, Fuentes Evans, Knepper Even traded away future ROY Butch Metzger. You could go on with these failed trades in hindsight
Horace Stoneham and Spec Richardson were two of the worst GM's around.
The Giants best trade was for Christy Mathewson.
Evans just another disappointing GM in a long line.
Get your facts straight old timer.
Sure Manfred, just like the A's were #RootedInOakland
Yep, and Piazza was drafted strictly as a favor from Tommy Lasorda who was his godfather.
They won't put up the public money required after the Titans stadium.
Dad, you’re posting your password again.
Thaiss the way you do it.
Isn't this the guy Giraffe Neck Marc is obsessed with?
I saw someone mention on a different post being on the west coast is more valuable for Japanese pitchers because of the games start times. More people in Japan are able to watch Dodgers games over Yankees games so the marketing deals are more valuable. It’s less about family travel and more about availability to the Japanese market.
They have a younger version with better upside in David Villar.
I hope there was consent.
A stroke can strike at anytime.
Why does he care about some 16 year old Dominican kid who probably won't even be in the majors by the time he's reached 6 years of big league service?
The team with the most money will be the team that trades for the most additional cap space. Someone will likely offer him 10M$+.
The Dodgers are the only team with a chance to win?
Fans in Oakland are like, “Really, Manfred?”
Why is it that the clubs involved never offer up another 10% to help cover overages - of which it’s guaranteed… instead it’s always screw taxpayers, baseball fans and non-fans alike.
In the case of Nashville i don't think Sternberg would be part of the equation as i expect the group there would try to get him to sell. Actually the best interest for him and/or the team might be to sell
Completely agree
Agreed. I’m a Giants guy, and Yaz has been surprisingly consistent. Solid glove in right and a fairly decent 6-7 hitter. With the short right field in Boston, and of course regular (speculative) playing time, he could hit 20-25 homers. Yaz in Boston would be a perfect way to spend the rest of his career and pay homage to his grandpa.
For a chance to win?
Direct flights from LA to Tokyo is under 12 hours vs NYC to Tokyo at 14+. It's also easier for family to fly to them on the west coast.
Zero for both. Meyers is only in arb 1 and the org said McCormick will get a chance to rebound.
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No more public funding for billionaires. But I do love Petco!
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Manfred is stating the obvious, he'll sign between January 15th and the report date for pitchers at spring camps...no sooner and no later. So he's getting posted no earlier than December 2nd and no later than December 31st.
His FIP was even lower than his ERA at 2.09 vs. Wheeler's 3.13. That's a significant gap.