TODAY: King addressed reporters (including Jeff Sanders of the San Diego Union-Tribune) about his status, and said that he is “very confident that I will pitch by the end of the year.” This framing isn’t exactly a relief to Padres fans since there seemingly hadn’t been any concern that King’s season could be in jeopardy, yet the righty painted a reasonably positive view about the progress that he has made to date.
“I’ve had days where I’ve been really, really frustrated with it and been really sore and felt like I didn’t get much activity that day,” King said. “And then I’ll wake up the next day and all of a sudden [it’s] like, ’Oh my God, I feel like I can pitch in a game right now.’ So it’s taking it step by step and knowing that [the nerve] can fire when it fires, but obviously it’s that annoying process. I’ve got a ton of confidence that what we’re doing is the correct thing to do, and I’ve felt my body progress in great ways.”
JUNE 19: The Padres have been without right-hander Michael King for nearly a month now due to a pinched nerve in his shoulder, and it doesn’t sound as though he’ll be rejoining the team anytime soon. Asked yesterday by MLB.com’s AJ Cassavell whether King would be out through the All-Star break, manager Mike Shildt replied, “I think that’s pretty accurate” before declining to put a specific target date on the star right-hander’s return.
It’s a brutal injury for all parties involved. King is a free agent at season’s end and appeared to have a chance at cashing in on a nine-figure contract in free agency after a dominant run dating back to his late-2023 move to the rotation when he was still with the Yankees. An absence of this length owing to a fairly uncommon shoulder issue does him no favors in that regard. From the team’s perspective, he’s one of their top rotation options — if not the top rotation option — and there’s minimal depth to replace him.
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King, 30, opened the 2025 season on a tear. In his first 10 starts, he logged a 2.59 ERA with a gaudy 28.4% strikeout rate, a sharp 7.6% walk rate and a 38.3% grounder rate. He averaged less than a homer per nine innings pitched, held opponents to a pedestrian 88 mph average exit velocity and had tossed his first career shutout against the Rockies on April 13. Add all of that onto to King’s 2024 season and his huge finish to the 2023 campaign, and the former 12th-round pick (Marlins, 2016) boasts an electric 2.72 ERA, 28.4% strikeout rate and 8.1% walk rate in 267 2/3 innings since his full-time move to rotation work.
With King joining Joe Musgrove (2024 Tommy John surgery) and Yu Darvish (elbow inflammation) on the injured list, the Friars have leaned on Dylan Cease and Nick Pivetta atop their rotation. Cease has had two brutal outings — including his most recent one — that have skewed his ERA, but he had an 11-start run of 3.39 ERA ball with a 30.6% strikeout rate and 9% walk rate between his two meltdowns. Pivetta, who signed a creative four-year deal after lingering in free agency for much of the winter, has proven to be a godsend. He’s cooled a bit after racing out to a 2.01 ERA through his first seven starts but still sports a tidy 3.40 mark on the season, pairing that with a 27.7% strikeout rate and 6.9% walk rate.
The rest of San Diego’s staff hasn’t been nearly as impressive. Righties Randy Vásquez and Stephen Kolek have both posted mid-3.00 ERA marks but done so with poor strikeout and walk rates (and a poor home run rate, in Vásquez’s case), creating some justifiable skepticism about their ability to sustain their respective marks of 3.70 and 3.59.
Twenty-five-year-old Ryan Bergert has looked strong through his first three career starts and pitched well in nine Triple-A starts, too. His track record is limited, however; he posted a 4.78 ERA in 98 Double-A frames a year ago and has never reached even 110 innings in a professional season. Offseason signee Kyle Hart has been clobbered for a 6.66 ERA in his return from a big year in the Korea Baseball Organization. Knuckleballer Matt Waldron ate up 146 2/3 innings with a 4.91 ERA last year but opened the 2025 season on the injured list due to an oblique strain. He was reinstated from the 60-day IL earlier this month and optioned to Triple-A where he’s made three straight effective starts. He’s likely the next man up if the Padres need another starter.
The emergence of Bergert and the manner in which Kolek has stepped up — even if he’s been shaky since two brilliant starts to begin his season — have left the Padres in a better spot than most would’ve expected upon hearing that both King and Darvish would face protracted absences in 2025. Still, with multiple rotation arms sporting ERAs that don’t appear all that sustainable, King’s nebulous injury status is all the more problematic for San Diego.
This level of uncertainty seemed hard to imagine when King was first placed on the injured list. Shildt said at the time that the right-hander “felt like he slept on [his shoulder] wrong” at that time. It’s clear now that there was something more significant at play. King is doing some occasional light throwing work, but it sounds as though he’ll need to build through a full throwing progression and a rehab stint of some note before he’s back on the big league radar. For a Padres team that’s patching over its rotation with a series of relative unknowns and a pitcher who was eyeing a major contract in free agency, that seemingly innocuous start to his absence has snowballed in a most unwelcome manner.
The Friars seemingly have more money committed to pitchers on the I.L than to pitchers not on the I.L.
It’s no wonder why many teams are leery of awarding pitching contracts longer than 2 years.
That sounds like coping when the team you root for is perpetually mediocre or bad.
What’s the LL?
Lost List.
Padres are pikers compared in that regard to the Dodgers who have more money on the IL than 21 teams have in total payroll.
Padres need to step up their injured pitcher game if they are going to compete with the dodgers.
Which has exactly what to do with my comment?
Padres need to catch up. I thought it was obvious.
Its not related to my post, so no, it wasn’t obvious. It is not even relevant. Please try to keep up with the conversation.
We’re going to have to work on your sarcasm game.
Pray they get on a heater during the second half, like last year
King, Cease and Arraez all looked like locks for the QO coming into the season, but who the heck knows now?
King and Cease for sure. Not sure about Arraez and $22M+ when he’s only hitting 102 wRC+ and playing poor defense.
I don’t think you risk a QO to Arraez, even at his best.
He already was facing a limited market even if he had kept his average at .330 to .350. With his average dipping below .300, and no other tool in the chest, he might not have a market at all.
Why can’t I reply to either of you? If you muted me you wouldn’t be able to see my top-level comment let alone reply to it.
Anyway, GM’s aren’t robots. Arraez has won the batting title 3 years in a row and is adored by fans. I don’t think they let him walk for nothing.
@LFG
Cronenworth is the comp, imo. You don’t offer Arraez any more than you offered Croney. That’s with his average being in batting title territory.
If Arraez can’t manage that anymore, you offer him 75% of the Croney deal.
You let Arraez walk or give him something short where he can rebuild his value and try again.
He has little to no value playing below average defense and batting .280. I’m not committing years at 75% of Crone’s money at this point.
@Jbigz12 We are in agreement then that you do not QO Arraez. That is good.
Waldron!
Aside from Sheets, not much trade value on the ML roster to get meaningful returns at the deadline. This team is about half a season away from only having Vasquez and Brito as the remaining returns on all the prospects involved in the Soto from DC trade dominos. No WS, big money tied up into aging players with really bad terms, and a weak farm system going into 26. Need to find a better way to
True but they will free up about 24m Soto was 30m when traded. So they can reinvest that money are still get a good player out of it.
Definitely a huge win for the Nats in that trade unless they win the World Series this year. While they have been and I think will still be competitive. The trade was to win a World Series.
Don’t forget though, while AAV accounted for it, actual cash outlay on salaries remain depressed for the big contract guys and they are getting healthy boosts over the next 2 off seasons.
I like Kolek, Vasquez an Pivetta. All are looking good. Cease may still find a groove.
Pads need a lf.
Waiting for Pollyanna, in 3-2-1.
If they could get king and darvish back their rotation would look pretty good. Even Berger has been pretty good. They just don’t have the ceiling of king or darvish when healthy.
As long as King throws a couple nice bullpens before they trade him at the deadline.
Id trade Cease too if you can find a taker for both of them and can get some good players in return.
Whats with these Padres this season? Can’t score runs and the top of their lineup is stacked. Sheets is having a good year. Merrill has hit when he is in the lineup but 18th in MLB in runs scored?
The Reds outscore the Padres by 40 runs this season and their lineup is just as bad or worse 6-9. The Mariners have scored more runs than the Padres.
It hasnt been their pitching, their bullpen has won them a lot of games this year. They have gotten some good pitching from Kolek, Vasquez and Berget, and those guys are all fives.
If you can get a good return, have to trade the starters and make due with:
Dharvish
Pivetta
Kolek
Vasquez
Berget
If you cant score runs might as well add some propsects for ’26.
Don’t blame Arraez – he has only struck out 5 times in 272 ABs – putting the play is a real big advantage and nobody does it better, his AVG and OBP should both be up about .20 points.
Have to extend Arraez. Im sure he is going to test FA. Letting Arreaz walk would be a big loss.
The Pads are currently in a WC spot.
They arent going to be there long if they don’t start scoring some runs.
The bullpen has shown some signs of losing the wind that has kept the Padres ship afloat all season.
I guess you could say that its worth it to be buyers and make a run at the playoffs but the way I see it – the Padres, with a couple good trades, could set themselves up well for ’26 and beyond and the players who are signed long term should be on board with that.
They need some pitching prospects. They need a couple good young pitchers to add to Kolek, Vasquez and Berget, and they one that can be a front of the rotation starter. I’d go for Cam Schlittler. If the Yankees would trade him.
1. I agree with trading King and Cease at deadline esp if Merrill continues to miss time but at least 1 needs to bring back an mlb ready young pitcher. It’s one thing to replace a LF but finding a LF CF and 1B idk
Astros, Yankees, Blue Jays, Mets, Cubs all make a strong case to acquire them.
Maybe you can pry away Ballesteros and Brody McCullough for Cease. Ballesteros goes to 1st and Brody could be ready soon as next year.
King would be harder to trade given health so I’d probably hold on to him and QO unless someone just makes an offer you can’t refuse.
2. I wouldn’t count on Darvish this year. But you can make due to Pivetta, Vasquez, Kolek, Berger, and Wolf is pitching decent in aaa might as well give him a shot as an opener and piggy back a guy like Waldron.
3. Reds play in the most hitter friendly ball park in America. Literal sand box. I’m sure if you dig deeper you’d see a stark difference of home vs road runs scored.
You either trade all 4 of King, Cease, Arraez and Suarez or neither of them. You don’t keep 1 or 2 because “You have to put a good product on the field” or because “We want to extend them.”
In order to trade all 4 you need to find trade partners for all 4 and all 4 need to be healthy.
King won’t be traded if he’s injured. He could return before the deadline. He could return after the deadline. He could not return at all this year. His status is up in the air. If he’s healthy and you’re out of it trade him. If he’s not hold onto him QO him. Pretty simple.
Cease is the most likely to get traded followed by Suarez. Seems like Arraez isn’t healthy himself still following his posterior knee soreness he suffered against the Giants. He seems to be dealing with stuff on his own.
They will either trade all four guys (if they’re healthy they can find buyers) or buy at TD, depending on their position in the standings at that time. There’s not really a sensible middle ground.
As long as the padres are in the race they will not sell. They haven’t ever done that under preller.
Plus the teams behind them aren’t all that good either.
Cubs, dodgers, Mets, Phillies are locks to me.
Giants and padres are next most likely. If the padres fall behind they will be in a battle with the reds, brewers, cards and dbacks. None of those teams I don’t think are going to take off. Highly unlikely the padres sell barring a really bad run.
If Arraez finishes strong he could get a QO. What do you think an extension would look like? He’s still young for a FA, 28/29, 4/5 years at $10-$15 per?
I think that’s crazy to think Arraez gets such a raw deal, I would think many teams would be clamoring for him.
He is a one of a kind hitter, maybe Steven Kwan is in his echelon, but Arreaz is better than Kwan. 5 K’s in 275 ABs in ’25.
He is .319/.366/.416 over his career, ~ 2900 ABs, he has to test FA unless the Padres can extend him first, might save them some bucks if they do.
I don’t think Machado can live without Arreaz, he will be disappointed if the Padres don’t sign him.
Going to be interesting, he probably will take less to stay if you offer him a fair shot, say 6/160M. He has to get more than Bogaerts to make it right.
Arraez will have suitors but nowhere close to 6/160. He has a limited skillet in hitting for contact but he plays poor defense, doesn’t walk, has no power, and isn’t fast. He may not even be a $15M AAV player. You are vastly overrating Arraez. If he continues not to barrel the ball this year, he’ll be lucky to get a two-year deal in the open market.
YBC – 6/160M minimum is what Id say, I was just putting him above Bogaerts in the Padres pecking order, rightfully, it creates homeostasis amongst the team. But I think he’d do better in FA.
Arraez currently has a 0 bWAR and a -.2 fWAR. Baseball is a business.
Boegarts deal has nothing to do with what Arraez will get. Boegarts had a 135 OPS+ over the previous 5 years of his deal.
Not a good year for Arraez to have his worst season offensively. 6/160m is not happening with the Padres or any other team for that matter. A 1b/DH with no power are the last guys to get huge deals.
And no, I don’t think they’ll risk a QO on him either, just like they didn’t last year for Jurickson Profar who had a pretty huge year or Ha-Seong Kim, a year removed from a 5 war season. I think he’d Nick Martinez that real quick and the team doesn’t have the budget to pay that kind of salary and address other areas.
thats why most of the number crunchers get hosed in the end because they dont understand the team aspect of putting together a lineup.
Arreaz has to be the man behind Tatis and Machado on that team, and he has to get at least Bogaerts money to be that guy.
WAR is great for keeping a man who earned his paycheck down, he has only struck out 5 times in 272 ABs, do you know how amazing that is?
I dont care what his WAR says, he has a lifetime batting average of .319. What are you smoking with your WAR numbers? You overpaid Soto by 35M per with your WAR numbers.
No qualifying offer is so funny. Padres would be lucky to get him back on a one year deal at 20M AAV. Hope they like their draft pick.
That’s your hill. Have it your way. G’day!
Pssst. “G’day” is hello. “See ya” is goodbye.
Take Arraez’s numbers so far in 2025 and those rates over 162 games would get you:
.283/.315/.397, 186 hits, 80 runs, 65 rbi, 38 2b, 7 hr, 31 bb’s.
Those aren’t the numbers of a 20m player and definetly not a 26.67m player (6/160). He has regressed a ton this year compared to the previous 3 seasons. He was previously in the 60th-80th percentile in expected on base percentage, this year he’s in the 12th percentile. Those same years his expected slug has been in the 50th-60th percentile, this year it’s in the 10th percentile.
Not good trends at all for a guy who is 28 and should be in his prime. What are we looking at as he ages into his early/mid 30’s?
Love Arraez as a teammate and there is a price and years where keeping him makes sense, but take your prediction and cut the years in half and the total value by 70% and you’d be more accurate.
For a guy who makes so much contact it’s too bad he’s not able to get on base more even if power isn’t his forte. A .315 obp is really crapy for a top of the lineup bat with zero power and minimal defensive value.
In no way is Arraez better than Kwan. 0 WAR compared to 3.2 WAR so far (fangraphs). Defense matters. Kwan has 10x the earnings potential of Arraez.
I can understand how you can say that he has regressed, but you could say it has been his best season yet in terms of bat to ball skills, his strikeout rate is the best MLB has ever seen.
His hard hit% is way down, that is a change in his approach to some extent, his bat speed must be off, but I think it’s a step back to make a step forward.
This guy is a great hitter. Arraez doesn’t get any run in the field, he could put up some decent numbers in the field, he made it to the big leagues on more than his bat. He might not be Roberto Alomar or Keith Hernandez but he is an average fielder.
I don’t see how a guy who can make contact at the rate Arraez does could hit any worse than .310 / .330. The OBP is the biggest question mark in regards to his paycheck, if he hits .310/.360/.400 year to year, is he worth the check? I’d say yes.
Maybe the down year has him considering a more team friendly deal. Padres should make it right with him if they want to win.
Slept on it wrong ! No structural damage a pinch nerve but they are not sure how to treat it . Baffling injury . I don’t believe any timeline .
I’ve had severe pinched nerves in shoulder blade / lower neck that last 2-3 months. I’ve also had a jammed joint / pinched nerve that lasted a week. They can be debilitating injuries, especially when trying to get up out of bed or turning /tilting your head.
They are treating it, but it’s taking some time
Padres going down, Preller going down n taking Shilty with him
Preller going down this year? at least 3 years late , he overpay for every trade ,he make and the farm 26 0f 30.
Well good thing there’s a draft in about a month and IFA spending resets so Preller can add 20 new players and more ifa players to the farm. Should help with the 26/30 issue real quick.
Other teams have the same opportunity. It’s not like other farms won’t be improving as well. He would want to be good at it to move up “real quick.”
keep praying biscuit boy
Does he risk pitching again this year with free agency right around the corner?
Does he risk sleeping again?
Not pitching would impact his free agent stock even more cause then he’s coming off a season ending injury. King is a weird case cause he doesn’t have a long track record like others. Hes got about 2 years worth of starts
What’s the news on JOE KING??
That will lower his cost in FA. Maybe the Padres can retain him.
Preller has proven to be very savvy, look at the Pivetta deal. I’m willing to bet he’s already working the numbers to make an offer in-season if he can to King’s camp.
The Padres looked like a World Series team for the 1st 2 1/2 months of the season as they were off to a record team start in team history.
Then, the injury bug hit the team hard.
The Padres put too many of their eggs in the Michael King, Dylan Cease and Yu Darvish baskets.
Obviously, the Padres do not have the depth that the Dodgers have in the farm system to replace injured players without missing a beat.
Although, the young pitching looks promising,
A much smarter move would have been to trade either Cease or King when they were riding high to patch multiple holes on the team such as LF, 1B/DH, Catcher, starting pitching.
It could still happen since the Giants are also getting better and looking like a rising force in the Division to compete with the Dodgers.
The Padres need to step up their player personnel game to
keep pace with the Dodgers, Giants and D-Backs in the toughest Division in baseball.
Cease has has been good when “on”, but has had a few bad starts.
King may still have a lot of value if he comes back healthy.
POB AJ Preller outsmarted himself on the Soto giveaway of top young prospects deal to the Nats.
All those top young players/prospects now producing in Washington
could have been part of a great young foundation of present and future Padres teams.
That said, Did they have a clearance sale on panic buttons?!
MLB season is long.
Every team has hiccups and losing streaks in an April-October season.,
The Padres continue to “pull rabbits out of their hats”
and find valuable players for their team and rotation when the East Coast so called “baseball experts” have already written them off:
Nick Pavetta, Stephen Kolek, Randy Vasquez, Ryan Bergert all have stepped up and started admirably for the Padres and look like solid rotation depth going forward to go along with what ever
verteran starters they retain out of Du Darvish, Michael King, Dylan Cease and more.
Padres hitters will hit.
Padres defenders will defend.
Plug that big hole in LF and the Padres will be looking very strong going forward.
It is not the slump in the dog days of June that will define the Padres season for 2025,
It is just important that the Padres get hot again in the 2nd half just like they did to start the season
and June will not matter in the scheme of things.
After 77 games last season the Padres were 3 games under .500. They are 10 games UP on where they were last season when they ended the year with 93 wins.
There’s got to be a clause to prevent this sort of thing heading forward. I don’t want any more guys getting hurt doing this “sleeping” business. At the least he shouldn’t be getting MLB service time and pay. You can sleep when you’re dead!
I guess the yankee fans that want king back will be dissappointed
Whichever team signs King post this season will be disappointed.
Because?