The Orioles remade their rotation in the offseason, but to the extent hoped for by Baltimore fans. Corbin Burnes departed in free agency, netting a compensatory draft pick, but the front office opted to go with a series of older veterans on one-year deals to round out the staff. Charlie Morton signed for $15MM. Longtime NPB ace Tomoyuki Sugano landed a $13MM guarantee. Old friend Kyle Gibson signed late, inking a $5MM deal in late March. It was a big bet on in-house arms taking a step forward and on some older free agents fending off Father Time for another season.
That bet hasn’t paid off.
Baltimore starters have the worst earned run average in the majors, checking in at 6.11. Their combined 15.4% strikeout rate is also last in the majors, as is their 7.9% swinging-strike rate. No team’s rotation has allowed home runs at a higher rate than the Orioles’ 1.86 HR/9, and only two have yielded higher marks in terms of average exit velocity and hard-hit rate.
Sugano and Zach Eflin are the only two Orioles starters with an ERA under 6.00. Sugano’s 9.2% strikeout rate is the third-lowest among all starters with at least 10 innings, leading only Antonio Senzatela and Randy Vasquez. Eflin, at an uncharacteristic 11.8%, has the sixth-worst strikeout rate in that same set. He’s also on the injured list due to a mild lat strain. Grayson Rodriguez, the team’s best young starter, is currently out with a shoulder injury for which he recently sought a second opinion.
Currently, the O’s are trotting out a quartet of Sugano, Morton, Dean Kremer and Cade Povich. Morton, 41, has struggled more than any pitcher in baseball, yielding a 10.89 ERA with five homers in his 20 2/3 innings. Manager Brandon Hyde was asked about Morton today and wouldn’t commit to the veteran keeping his rotation spot. “I think anything’s on the table at this point, Hyde said, per Jake Rill of MLB.com. “We’re going to get through this series and then kind of see where we are.” Kremer, sitting on a 6.41 ERA, has also served up five homers in just 19 2/3 innings. Povich has been tagged for four homers in 18 1/3 innings and seen more than half of his opponents’ batted balls leave the bat with an exit velocity of at least 95 mph.
The Orioles drew plenty of criticism for their cautious offseason. They reportedly offered Burnes a four-year deal to stay, one that’s said to have come with a $45MM annual value, but a four-year term for a 30-year-old former Cy Young winner in free agency never seemed like it’d get the job done. The team seemed to place a heavy emphasis on sustaining long-term flexibility, which has been a theme under GM Mike Elias as he navigated his club’s lengthy rebuild.
Some of that lack of multi-year spending in past offseasons could be attributable both to the team’s rebuilding status and due to the now-former ownership group helmed by the Angelos family. There was significant in-fighting among the Angelos family over control of the franchise, and in any scenario where a team is up for sale, the current owners are going to be reluctant to commit to pricey, long-term commitments.
There was some hope that’d change under new owner David Rubenstein, who purchased the team last spring. But while the O’s have spent more both at the trade deadline and this past offseason, the commitments remained short term. Tyler O’Neill is the only free agent to sign a multi-year deal under Elias, but his contract lets him opt out after the current season. Eflin was controlled beyond 2024, but only for one additional season. Right or wrong, the perception exists that the Orioles are rather squeamish when it comes to longer-term spending.
Whether it was a deliberate calculation or mere happenstance that the O’s again went short-term in the rotation, the end result is a struggling group that runs the risk of undercutting a lineup full of excellent young hitters. There’s no firm indication as to when Rodriguez will be back. Eflin has been throwing on flat ground but has yet to work off a mound. He’ll presumably need a rehab assignment, too. A mid-May return seems like a best-case scenario. Right-handers Tyler Wells and Kyle Bradish had UCL surgery last year and won’t be available until midseason. Albert Suarez was placed on the 15-day injured list after one appearance due to shoulder inflammation and has since been transferred to the 60-day IL.
There are some reinforcements coming for the Orioles, but none of it is likely to pitch at a front-of-the-rotation level. MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko writes that Gibson could join the big league club as soon as Friday. (Kubatko’s piece also contains candid, thoughtful and lengthy comments from Morton on his 2025 struggles, which readers are encouraged to check out in full.) Gibson has tossed 12 minor league innings and been effective in building up for the season, but the 37-year-old veteran is at best an innings-eating fourth starter at this point in his career.
Gibson isn’t the only arm on the mend. The Orioles announced this morning that left-hander Trevor Rogers will begin a rehab assignment at Double-A this week. Acquired last July in trade that sent Connor Norby and Kyle Stowers to the Marlins, Rogers is a former top-10 pick, top prospect and Rookie of the Year candidate whose star has dimmed amid a lengthy series of injuries. He was rocked for 15 runs in 19 innings for the Orioles following the trade before being optioned to Triple-A and closing out the year with a 5.65 ERA in his final five minor league starts. He’s a possible fresh arm, which the team needs, but it’s hard to bank on him contributing quality innings. He’ll also probably need a rehab stint of some length, given that he’s been dealing with his current knee issue since January.
For all their pitching struggles, the Orioles sit at 9-12. Their -20 run differential suggests they may be fortunate to be “only” three games under .500, but they’ve kept themselves afloat. If they can stick around in contention while patching together the rotation, then further adding to the rotation will be a primary focus once the trade market opens more fully in the summer. Until then, they’ll likely have to rely on in-house arms and hope the farm yields an unexpectedly productive option. Righty Brandon Young has already made his debut, and it stands to reason that names like Kyle Brnovich, Cameron Weston and perhaps former Nationals Rule 5 pick Thaddeus Ward could get looks if the current struggles continue to mount.
Could have had Cease for Kjersted/Mountcastle…….
I honestly would have thought Baltimore could have done more. They have the money and the young prospects to take over the division. I’m not sure what the teams issues are. The time is now, and if not now, then when???
Owner gave permission to spend, Mikey didn’t want to!😡
Wow! Do you have sources? I’d love to read more about this!
It’s because they prospect hoard; they could have traded for the Marlins Sandy Alcartna. (Sp)
I doubt that would have cleared the hurdle, Verm. All indications say that Preller asked for alot more than that… and rightfully so.
Blows my mind Orioles didn’t jump at the chance to get Cease and the QO pick he will command for Kjerstad, Williams, Fabian, Pham, Young
Padres could have used a restock of the farm with some lower level lottery tickets, gotten their long term LF, picked up an interesting C/1B in Williams
Orioles could have helped their rotation and picked up another 1st round pick if/when cease leaves
But again, why would the Pads trade Cease for nothing more than a King’s ransom? They’re contenders, and trading Cease away changes those dynamics.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but Padres acted like they were operating under financial restraints unwilling to cross over into luxury tax territory. They really stalled out in free agency and made no attempts to replace Profar or Scott or many of their free agents who went elsewhere.
Padres could have used the 14 mill elsewhere to improve the roster this year.
Which would help most in 2025 and beyond
Cease and a 4th round pick they’ll receive since they are in tax payer territory
Kjerstad, other prospects, and 14 mill
My Pads are in the second tier of the CBT. Profar was overpaid; i would have hunted AJ down if he resigned him for anything close to that. Stalled out in FA, or already had 36 of 40 roster spots full over the Offseason? Big difference…
36 of 40 roster spots filled
Chose Heyward and Joe to replace Profar
Chose no one to replace Scott in pen
Chose Diaz to replace Higashioka
They could have traded Cease and used the funds to sign
Quintana for 4 mill instead of Hart or 5 mill. Could have brought back Perez for 5 mill, and Caleb Ferguson for 3 mill
And have Kjerstad for OF instead of Heyward Joe Gonzalez etc etc
Ok, but no TOR buddy for King and Darvish. Gotta look ahead to the Postseason where you need 3 viable starters. If the wheels fall off, then sure, trade the house at the TDL. Doesn’t make any sense before then… unless you’re blown away by an outstanding offer. I suspect Kjerstad or Mayo plus Basallo & Povich might have gotten AJ’s attention. And by Perez, do you mean Martin who is basically out all year? The Pads did a fine job in the Offseason. Minimal holes to fill, and they were. Taylor Scott was expendable by the end, and replaced as Closer by Suarez. We’ll see where the chips all fall by the end, but I would take the Pads roster over the O’s right now.
Swapping out Cease for Kjerstad Quintana Perez and Ferguson definitely would have been a smart move esp since they signed Pivetta who’s been a god send
They’d definitely be better off than they currently are in LF.
And a rotation of
King
Quintana
Pivetta
Perez
5th
Definitely has more appeal than
King
Cease
Pivetta
Vasquez
Hart
Again, Perez is probably out for the year… and just who would be your hypothetical 5th? The Pad’s roster is 10 times better as currently constructed. I’ll take
King
Cease
Darvish
Pivetta
Hart/Vasquez
Any day of the week over that mess. We’re tied for 1st, Dodgers. Maybe you’re just showing your fear?
“FIRST TO 10. FIRST TO 15” vibes from gwynning
So? Perez could have stayed healthy all year with the padres for all we know. And he’s a better 5 than Vasquez and Hart.
That’s fine
Kjerstad Quintana Perez a relief arm > Cease Hart Hayward Joe Gonzalez
Agree to disagree. Cheers bub!
Could have had Max Fried
Really? Think players are dumb?
The O’s have no veteran leadership. The youngsters don’t play defense well or execute fundamentals. Their way of working with pitchers sends them to the IL and potentially can ruin their careers.
O’s need a lot more than one big-name starting pitcher that might throw 160 innings a year.
The FO totally messed up the rebuild. Letting McCann go – the team leader, a great handler of pitchers, and a gamer was the final sign for me….worse yet they replaced him with Gary Sánchez.
That organization is in bad, bad trouble. They have major systemic problems in the FO that need to be addressed.
No one saw this coming.
Who would have thought your only TOR arm in Burnes leaving and failing to replace him AND add another TOR instead opting to sign 4s and 5s would wind up like this.
Bummer they couldn’t sign Burnes. He was the right TOR to pursue. IE. small injury history.
Signing innings eaters to 1 yr deals worked out in 22, 23 & 24. After losing out on Burnes, they went to that strategy again in 25. And I get it. They seem to see Bradish and Rodriguez as long term answers … and possibly Wells … to their rotation success. So bring in guys like Surgano, Morton and Gibson as placeholders until they r back to health. Yes? No? Maybe?
1 year deals didn’t work out. Zero playoff series won. What am I missing here?
Relatively speaking they worked out in light of the run of losing seasons they had prior to 22. By the way, it was the hitting that faltered in the playoff years of 23 and 24.
Burnes pitched as advertised last year. the measure of success is not only on playoff series wins. I get your point but when the bats don’t show up, you can hardly blame the pitchers. no pitcher has ever pitched a negative ERA to win in lieu of offense.
it is too easy to stick to a single smug narrative like “1 yr deals don’t work”. you have to find the right fit for a pitcher and also hope for health. AND the bats need to figure it out. we can see what happens when the offense dries up this season… there is no margin for error with these current healthy starters but that’s where the bats need to do their thing to allow us to be competitive.
it’s been very hard to stomach this year but outside of Perez, the Pen has done a good and mostly consistent job (minus the massacre game). if the bats do what they are capable of, even our meh starters could compete and not feel like they can’t attack the zone.
hard to keep your chin up when there’s no clear time table for when the better starters will return.
I think it actually starts with better defense and base running … the basics, when your arms are iffy, you can’t give away outs.
C Yards Jeff;
No.
It was clear going back to mid-2024 when they traded Austin Hays that they were dumping the veterans. Their veteran players were shocked, they saw the handwriting on the wall.
If I figured that out at the time, what makes you think players and their agents didn’t? What FA pitcher – let alone those in the most demand – wants to sign a long-term contract with a team that’s dumping the veterans that lead to their contending, so that they can spend the next 2-3 years going through growing pains that might not work out?
I thought the recent White Sox and Phillies rebuilds were a mirage, and the Pirates never really even showed any signs of any possible success. The FO on this one might well be the most tone deaf.
The mess is just starting…..
Oh, darn Samuel figured everything out after they traded Hays! Another laughable comment and take.
You seem to only possess the ability to recognize things that exist in your echo chamber of ignorance, as if your take is the only possible explanation and outcome.
Hays? A player so good that he had a couple good games in Philly and was largely a below average player. A player who is such a coveted talent veteran that he was only able to find a one year contract with the reds at the end of January. Again, he’s had a good few games but is hardly a needle mover. It was THAT transaction that gave you the basis for your hot take?
MLB front offices, take note, get this guy in the front office!
First sentence is awkward, Steve. Missing a “not” perhaps? Love your show anyway, hanging up meow.
Trade Mountcastle + a prospect for an ace
To whom? And for whom? I regret to inform you that Mounty has minimal trade value attached. Aces cost more than *that*, even moreso for one with control. Mounty + any prospect on Earth isn’t even close to enough for a pseudo-TOR guy in Alcantara.
@gwynning. I’m waiting to hear mountcastle and Morton for cease and saurez and the old gum ball machine.
Heck, get Billy to pay for the Pepsi machine and we might have a deal Huds! J/k 😛
@gwynning. Good luck he couldn’t even pay for a hair transplant. Jk. I was just saying that because cubs fans are already starting offers, and yes the padres are in first. Doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. The only thing i can see happening and a big is saurez. Maybe they can pull two prospects and a ready bullpen piece.
Mountcastle and a prospect could absolutely land an ace. Problem is Cal Ripken hasn’t been a prospect in over 40 years….
This!
Even if that prospect was Basallo, you’re not getting a true ace for that and Mountcastle. The Cubs are going to be heavily involved in the pitching market, and they’ll drive the bids up.
The problem is, the rest of the league doesn’t value Mountcastle very high. Reports are that Baltimore tried but teams just weren’t interested. The guys hosting the weekly chats have repeatedly said as much. Teams were interested in the youngsters, who they aren’t willing to trade.
I remember when people were saying sugano was going to suck.
@.@
I can’t get over the lack of outrage from the fanbase the past few seasons. The excitement fans got from only getting Jack Flaherty in 2023 was embarrassing. I thought things would change with Rubenstein, but they haven’t, but more because Elias it seems as rumors say Elias has been given an open check book. I thought the rotation would be better this year, but I’m not surprised they have performed how they have. The offense is inconsistent. Idk what’s with Adley but it’s coming to a point where I am concerned about his future. I still think the offense can turn it around, but it would’ve been nice to do more to upgrade than Tyler O’Neil. I still wish they’d go out and get someone with Mayo. There’s no place for him. You can have Adley, Basallo, Holliday, Gunnar, and Westburg for the next 5+ years. Go out and get Crochet, sign fried or Snell. There’s your rotation. Does that fix the offense? Probably not, but maybe less pressure on them. But that’s the offseason I was hoping for. Idk. Just ranting. I’m just worried the window is closing and am frustrated at Elias. Still excited for the future and think there’s still time to turn it around
I think you should be open-minded about Rubes for now, lest we forget that players decide where to sign, not the opposite. Be patient, I think you’ve got a better Ownership sitch in hand.
I’m good with him. He seems great. Especially compared to the Angelos’s. I’m more just in shock of Elias if he truly does have free reign to spend at a higher rate. I’m not expecting Soto or ohtani, but I expected more
I had a hunch that you guys were going to get Snell…
I know your “frustration” as I somewhat feel it, too. Maybe a little known fact here but your O’s are my favorite AL team and I almost always root for them. I feel somewhat disappointed about their Offseason too, but you can’t lose sight of the fact that ultimately players decide where to play. Who would you like to move and bring in via trade? That’s a distinct possibility… still! Cheers amigo
I was big on Crochet. At this point I feel like waiting for next year when Bradish and hopefully Grayson are healthy. If I’m remembering right, there are some good arms in FA next year. If the mariners would part with one of their top guys, I’d for sure be in. They need an ace. And they need to be willing to make a splash. And cheers to you too!
Yeah, nailed it. Don’t be gunshy, even after the Flaherty nosedive. I think that’s the ticket. Just gotta find the right dance partner.
There are only 6 players the Mariners won’t trade. Cal, Julio, & the 4 young starting pitchers. Baltimore it appears feels the same way about its talented young infielder group.
Luis Castillo is a number 2 that was available, but terms couldn’t be agreed upon; they apparently declined an offer of Mountcastle.
Thank you! Finally! Someone who understand that free agents don’t have to sign with whomever throws the most cash at em. I get so frustrated when people say “they should have signed X and Y”. Not how it works.
You should be extremely frustrated.
Pitcher Justin Wrobleski for center field Cedric Mullins.
Mullins will be a free agent after this season.
Orioles have 2 or 3 promising outfielders coming.
Enrique Bradfield Jr., Vance Honeycutt & Dylan Beavers. Doubt if the Orioles are looking to extend/offer Mullins a contract for next year and beyond.
Throw in Bobby Miller and I suspect the O’s do that trade today. Pick a lower tier O’s prospect for balance, if necessary.
Why would the Orioles do that? They are trying to compete in 2025.
Ohhhhhhh Joel…
King. Of. Crazy. More like it!
You better hope the Padres can win in 2025. The future isn’t looking too bright…..
Worry about your Cards. We’re fine!
Who would have known letting your ace walk was bad!
The offered him way more money at a higher yearly rate than Arizona. That’s not letting him walk. Burnes wanted to pitch at home
They didn’t “let” Burnes walk – he decided to sign elsewhere as a free agent.
Right! Then they did nothing to refill the gaping hole at SP 1.
Who was there to after Burnes signed? Please educate me. Theres less than 12 number 1s in the league. Hindsight is 20/20 but I don’t think shoring up the back of the rotation was a bad pivot at the time
Sean Manaea
Griffin Canning
Jesus Luzardo
Clay Holmes
Max Fried
Marcus Stroman (just kidding)
Garrett Crochet
Luis Severino
Eovaldi
That’s all for now.
Again…..
What makes you kids think that bringing in a big-name starting pitcher to throw 160 innings a year….maybe….is going to resolve the challenge to cover the 1,400 innings a ML team pitches in the regular season?
And this team at one point had SIX STARTING PITCHERS ON THE IL. No players agent worth his or her salt with a marketable FA starting pitcher will let their client sign with the O’s – it may well not only ruin the pitchers career….it may ruin the agents. This is not rotisserie league. Peoples careers are on the line here.
Hyde should have been canned last year.
I’d kick him upstairs. He’s a loyal employee that offers value to the model.
Bring in a veteran manager ala a Bochy or Francona. One caveat. That crew in the warehouse will need to let go of controlling what happens on the field and put full trust in the old field manager to do his job. Can you do that Elias? I like Joe Madden.
C Yards Jeff;
There is nothing wrong with Hyde. They let him go it will be like the Cards firing Mike Schildt. Mr. Hyde would be scooped up quickly.
There is a major problem with the way they handle pitchers, and especially that pitching coach.
He doesn’t pitch.
How is it Hyde’s fault that the GM gave him almost nothing to build a rotation with? As someone already mentioned, Hyde can’t take the hill. There isn’t a manager on the planet that could win with the O’s current rotation.
Local story floating around that there’s a moral issue in the clubhouse. It seems to be on the hitting side of things. Too much platooning and movement of hitters up and down the line up. Not good.
C Yards Jeff;
Clubhouses are run by the players. Not the coaches, manager, or FO.
They let go some of their veterans. Refuse to even speak with Mullins agents about an extension when he wants to stay, and will no doubt dump other veterans even before the end of the season let alone the offseason.
There is no veteran leadership. That’s rotisserie league stuff. I knew what was going to happen this season when they let McCann go – very possibly the most respected player in the clubhouse. How tone deaf is that FO? Embarrassing. I’ve done a 180 on them.
Their minus 20 run differential suggests what exactly? They lost Morton’s most recent start by a score of 24-2. Throw that game out and they’re sitting at plus 2 runs for the season.
Plus 2 isn’t good for a team that’s supposed to be a contender. And you don’t get to take games out of the equation anyways.
You kids really think that’s the problem?
They got one hit tonight and getting an ace starting pitcher
is the problem?
How many weeks have you been following MLB?
Plus 2 runs for a team like this. That’s a substantial indication of problems.
New owner, same attitude. Cheap and non-commital. As usual, they over value the youngsters, believing they’re all destined for Cooperstown.
Brutal reading.
My literary game needs more “happenstance”. Fine effort !
Signing Morton and Sugano instead of a top of the rotation pitcher was a huge mistake and it’s not hindsight. Could have traded Mayo for someone like Crochet they didn’t do that either.
What planet are you on?
You really think the White Sox would trade Crochet for Mayo? Have you seen him play at the ML level?
And has it occurred to you that quality FA pitchers are careful about teams they sign with? Going to a team that not only can’t develop starting pitching but gets most of their pitchers injured, isn’t exactly a desirable destination point.
Go back and talk to the kids in your rotisserie league.
Going into 2025 Mayo had a whopping 41 plate appearances at the big leafue level. He was and still currently is the number 13 prospect in all of baseball according to MLB.com.
Free agents want to go to winning teams and the Orioles have been winners in recent years with a still strong farm system.
Fire Hyde