The Red Sox made a big free agent splash by signing Alex Bregman, but it seems to have led to some unintended consequences. Rafael Devers has clearly not been enthused by the addition and Sean McAdam of MassLive reports that Devers even considered asking for a trade.
Whether he actually asked for a trade or not isn’t known. He spoke to the media yesterday, saying that he had some private conversations with chief baseball officer Craig Breslow and manager Álex Cora, but without going into detail about how those conversations went.
He struck a conciliatory tone yesterday, saying that he will play wherever the team tells him to play, but he previously made it clear that he would prefer to stay at third base. When discussing the situation a month ago, he insisted that he was a third baseman and intended to stay a third baseman.
When he signed a mega extension in January of 2023, Devers was promised he could be the club’s long-term third baseman. However, that promise was made under CBO Chaim Bloom, who is no longer with the club. The latest drama suggests the Breslow regime isn’t so committed to keeping that promise. Per McAdam’s report today, Devers was assured throughout this offseason that the speculation surrounding Boston’s interest in Bregman and Nolan Arenado were just speculative.
Once Bregman signed, some believed that he would take over second base, with Devers staying at third. But more recently, Bregman has continued to line up at the hot corner during spring contests, making it seem as though a move to second base isn’t an immediate concern. Devers has been slow-playing his spring ramp up. He had some soreness in both shoulders last year and spent the winter trying to strengthen both of them. He came into camp a bit behind everyone else and has been taking part in some live BP and intrasquad games, but no official action yet.
While no public declaration has been made, it certainly seems as though the plan is for Bregman to take over third base while Devers serves as the designated hitter. It’s always been expected that Devers would be moved off the hot corner, since he’s not a good fielder. He has tallies of -62 Defensive Runs Saved and -29 Outs Above Average in his career. Moving to first base or DH at some point has been seen as inevitable, but this seems to have arrived sooner than anyone anticipated, certainly sooner than what Devers had been promised a couple of years ago.
While he shifted his public comments, it’s anyone’s guess if he has changed his private feelings on the matter. It will be a situation to watch throughout the season, as little is carved in stone. Bregman’s deal affords him opt-out chances after each year, so it’s possible he could be gone by November. Maybe Devers will be able to take his position again in 2026 but the club probably still considers him a liability there.
His deal runs through 2033, so a move to first base or DH feels like his eventually destiny, but perhaps he can carve out a few more years at third before that becomes permanent. Notably, that deal does not afford him any no-trade protection. If the relationship between Devers and the front office is damaged beyond repair, they could freely trade him wherever they want without having to worry about his preferences. As noted by McAdam, the team isn’t going to publicly say anything if they are trying to trade Devers, since that would be bad for leverage. And there’s no indication that they have any plans on making him available.
How the dominos fall over the rest of this year and into the future could have other impacts. Triston Casas projects as the club’s regular first baseman for now. Masataka Yoshida is not a great defensive outfielder, which makes him another DH candidate. With Devers now perhaps moving off third, Yoshida might have to spend more time in the outfield next to Jarren Duran, Wilyer Abreu, Ceddanne Rafaela and Roman Anthony. Prospect Kristian Campbell is another outfield candidate but he can also play second base. Then again, the club has Trevor Story at short with prospect Marcelo Mayer working into the middle infield mix.
Given all those moving pieces, there are have been trade rumors surrounding Casas, Yoshida and Abreu over the winter. The idea of Devers being available never seemed to be a consideration but is perhaps a bit more feasible in light of the apparent souring of relations over the past month. If a Devers trade becomes a realistic possibility at some point in the future, it could also impact Arenado’s market. The Cards weren’t able to execute an Arenado trade this offseason but would probably try again at the deadline or in future offseasons.
Woah
Devers is owed 280 mil over 10 years til age 36
Trout is owed 220 mil over 6 seasons to age 38
Who you got and why ?
For me, I’d rather run the risk with thought if Devers ends up at DH. Plus you are out of the contract quicker
Devers..trout hasnt played a full season since 2019
All day. He’s not even ready to play 3B to start the season.
But Trout is a team player. Devers is looking out for his own ego.
Thats valid about ego but id rather have a guy with and ego who plays vs someone who is literally massive chunks of every year injured…nobody ever hit a home run from the injured list…ever
What about Vlad and prospects for Devers
Vlad AND for Devers?
Is 1 year of Vlad worth moving on from a long term commitment? Also Vlad at 500 million or Devers at 280
Do you really think Toronto, or any team, would be willing to take on that contract AND promise Devers he can continue playing 3B for its duration? If it wasn’t untradeable before, that contract is positively toxic now. Between him and XB, I can understand why Mookie wanted out. Too many egos!
No one thinks he’s a 3b for the rest but a boiler years sure
Couple*
And then they lose Vlad in October. Either to the Yankees or Weight Watchers.
Lol the Red Sox would be lucky to get Spencer Torkelson for Devers.
Sounds like someone doesn’t wanna be the DH?
T.S. Eliot
Cap – He might not take well to full-time DH, nor everyone does.
While the contract doesn’t give Devers no trade protection, he’s at 7.070 for service time.
2 and a half seasons and he’s got 10 & 5 rights… so, if they want to do something, they’ve got a safe 2 years to figure it out at any rate.
Harder to move once you suck 2 more years of Devers prime from the contract. Has to be sooner rather than later if you want to trade him.
GASox – Great point, he could pull an Arenado/Houston.
BTW – Sale’s return tomorrow… cannot wait!
Well hey if Devers wants out…
…..and the RS considered asking him to lose weight and play better 3B…..
The RS considered asking whyhazee to become a fan of a different team.
I’m a fan of 28 other teams!!!!!!!!!!
He does look a little more in shape this year.
Lucky – He reported to camp a month early, mid-January. He wants to be 100% physically.
“Devers Reportedly Considered Asking For Trade”…
…and realized no other team would play him at 3rd either.
The Tigers would like a word…
My thoughts exactly!
So would the M’s
Amen to that Chet!
No, they wouldnt.
A’s would
A’s would not. They wouldn’t pay Juan Soto 28 mil a year.
No one was talking about money, Darth. “Letsgo” was talking about playing time.
Cubs?
That makes a lot of sense because they have a need at 3B at the moment, and they are honestly a bat away from being the favorites in the NLC. The question is do they line up with BOS in such a deal? Who goes the other way?
because they have a need at 3B at the moment,
========================
I reckon there is at least a 30% chance that Shaw goes north with the team.
Shaw is in Japan with the team now.
Pass. Cubs have a DH already.
This is fake news
This is a rumor, which, if you don’t like, you probably shouldn’t be on a site that has “rumors” in the site name.
Its a rumor that he “considered” asking for a trade..which he apparently shared with …nobody…so yea sure rumor has it i considered taking a crap earlier but kept that to myself as well…the only difference between these two rumors is one is clickbait the other isnt
Do you not know what a rumor is?
The Yankees wouldn’t mind, I’m sure. Though RS would never do it, if the they ate a good portion of salary, Crashman would do it.
The Yankees would do it…….
Only because they play people out of position all the time! Haha
Pretty sure the Cubs would play him at 3B, Swanson at SS can make up for some of his lack of coverage for the next few years. But by age 30 Devers is a DH.
No. The Cubs were not competitive enough for a 3B that could field the position at a quality standard. They are not going to over pay and give up prospects on a worse defender.
Devera needs to put his boy pants on and be a great hitter vs a cr***y teammate.
Cubs are not going to over pay but could give up some prospects for a paid down contract.
Hoerner
Tucker
Suzuki
Devers
Happ
Swanson
Busch
Amaya
PCA
That’s a freaking scary line up with enough defense to deal with Devers at third. I’d have the Dodgers and Braves offense ahead of them but I can’t think of anyone else.
Might look ok the first year, but his defense won’t get better, and he will pout if he doesn’t get his way in the future. WAAAAH!
Angels
This story apparently that never ends!
It’s been going on for a while, but it also doesn’t help that the Red Sox front office and Cora didn’t prepare for these questions since Bregman was clearly an option this whole offseason. More fodder for the media!
Acoss – Part of what makes arrogant people arrogant is their lack of empathy.
They didn’t give a damn about upsetting Devers.
Fever,
Of course not, the media got it’s sound bite to rile up the fans, and get the clicks. I’m guilty of it, I clicked on and commented on the articles on here.
Cardinals. Devers for Arenado straight up.
Just kidding but Cardinals could and should make an attempt to get him.
Why? They literally JUST brought in a Defensive upgrade at that position. That’s why their in this mess. Arenado going there now makes less sense than before Bregman. Even with prospects coming back it’s a ludicrous situation to put the team in for a player deep on his back nine.
They can call and boston would say no
Devers for Rendon
Only if you throw in a broken Trout.
Do we need so much minutae about the players or is it about reporters/ bloggers justifying their jobs?
Come to a trade rumors site and then complain about trade rumors. Genius. Grade A work. No notes.
You can’t make this stuff up.
He just did!
It seems to me the damage is done, the relationship between front office and Devers likely is not retrievable.
Devers signed up for a monogamous long term marriage of team, player and position and Boston opened it up, found a side piece and focused on that side piece real quick.
That said- it seems like from the moment he came up to the Big Leagues, Devers has been discussed as a player to eventually move to first base and then to become a DH, due to his lack of on field athleticism/defensive capabilities.
I also get that a regime change just a couple years after the deal got signed can mean that what was the future vision for the team no longer fits the current future vision for the team- and post-Bloom Boston might not want to be in the Devers business like they used to be- and clearly Cora decided he’d rather have Bregman at the hot corner than Devers and clearly Cora is gonna be deferential to Bregman over Devers, so…. yeah. Maybe the Oakland A’s of Sacramento of Las Vegas would take on the rest of Devers deal to show the league they’re ultra serious about being in compliance?
“The damage is done..is not retrievable”…Trades, DFAs, playing time reductions and position changes are just another part of the business side of baseball.
Players will adapt and If Raffy was as fragile and delicate as you seem to think, it’s likely he’d have never made it this far in sports and even put himself in position to earn a $300M+ contract.
Raffy is not some first year rube who doesn’t understand the business side of baseball. He’s been around the block more than a few times and will most likely quickly put this position change in his rear view mirror.
I’ve been saying as have others since Bregman signed, he’s the third baseman barring injuries. Raffy is getting to help the team win and regardless of past discussions has no choice here. No one is picking up that contract and giving Boston value back. Similarly, Boston is not giving him away. Thus, he finally realized he has no choice in the matter.
It’s just sad that he couldn’t figure that out before running his loud mouth intentionally in front of the media.
Look- at the end of the day, his contract is guaranteed, he has some offensive value, the Red Sox want to get what value they can out of him, he is going to hit plenty of home runs, produce plenty of RBI’s, be a valuable player for them, etc.
And yes he is a professional and whatever role they have for him, he’ll have to do that, regardless of whether its his preference or not.
I just think there are plenty of instances where it gets awkward enough between player and ownership/front office that it makes sense for everybody to part ways and this could be one of them, if not for how expensive his deal is.
When he was signed to that deal I thought it was a massive overpay in every sense, but here we are.
I just think its gotta make a player wonder why they should bother trying at all when they’re replaced at their primary position a year into a decade long, top dollar contract that was given to them by the team
Bregman’s signing is an absolute vote of No Confidence. This isn’t like with Jeter and A-Rod with short and third- they were both good defenders who could handle either position and Jeter was entrenched at short and A-Rod was a generational talent at a level that neither Bregman nor Devers is, so this isn’t like “we had an opportunity to go get this generational talent in his prime and we are going to make it work with our internal generational talent in his prime who represents positional redundancy” this is “we signed a player to a long term contract, changed our mind, got stuck with him, signed another guy to a massive contract to replace him ASAP, but we are still stuck with that first player and their deal.”
Trillionaire – I think the team just landed in an unexpected situation with Bregman actually hitting FA. Matt Chapman was a FA recently and there was nothing connecting him and the Sox. It’s the perfect storm with Cora and Bregman.
At the end of the day, the Sox and him had an agreement and he signed a deal. Sox broke that agreement, doesn’t matter that Bloom was in charge. Cora and FSG are still here. They all could have chosen to make a different agreement.
They could have communicated with him, and it sounds like they didn’t. Situation could have been easily avoided.
If he was a professional, he wouldn’t have run his mouth when he first was asked if he would move to DH. He would have just said that he would do what was in the best interest of the team, but his preference was to play 3B. In that one press conference he proved that he was the antithesis of a professional.
web- he didn’t “run his mouth” at all. He answered a question, that’s it. It’s reactionary takes like yours that keep nonsense stories like this one going.
Trill – Great post! I like your analogy.
Yeah it’s a common progression, 3B to 1B and then maybe DH.
No one is taking that contract unless Boston pays 75%
With the going rate of high end players I teams would consider taking on that contract. In a world where Vlad Jr is asking for more than 500 mill.
Vlad can ask, just like Alonso did. He will also learn 1B isn’t where teams spend their budget, just like Alonso.
He isn’t even overpaid. Your crazy if you think Devers is only worth 7 million a year.
What makes you think they would trade him..this isnt the nfl or nba
Pool – The star franchise player being miserable can poison a team.
They got rid of Nomar and Manny after all.
Toronto?
Cease for a paid-down Devers!
They have a real 3B in SD so that’s not happening.
It was a Cease joke, nevermind!
A reunion with Xander? Sounds like a win-win!
Apparently you missed the Cease and Desist Order.
Will the Dylan jokes ever cease?
I like it G! To live and work in America’s finest city (not to mention hit behind Tatis and in front of Machado and Merrill) I suspect he’d happily DH.
Why these overpaid brats always so sensitive?
Jealousy and Bernie Sanders economic knowledge are a hell of a drug^
Many such examples across professional sports.
NBA players like Jimmy Butler and Kevin Durant are good examples.
NBA is a whole different league of brats.
This story still confuses me. Why is no one acknowledging that Bregman is still the most logical fit at 2B and we are a typical Trevor Story injury plagued season away from Bregman also being the best option at short? Him being the best option at 3B is irrelevant until Campbell or Mayer get called up
We don’t even know if Devers can throw. He was bad before and may even be worse now. Can imagine fans saying that Devers would not have made a play that bregman just made.
Because it’s simply not true. Stick anyone the Red Sox have at 2nd and they are better defensively without Devers at 3b. Put your best 9 on the field if you want to win now, including defense.
This is exactly my thought and why Devers needs to relax. Injuries happen and he’ll get reps at 3B though out the season.
No team, I repeat, NO TEAM that will take on the contract will play him at 3B. I’ve heard suggestions of who would play him at 3B and none of them will take the contract. The Sox won’t eat money on the deal without 4-5 top prospects in return.
Devers wants 3B back after Bregman likely opts out this winter or next given players market values these days? He needs to improve his physical conditioning, work tirelessly at 3B in the off-season and earn it.
Can’t show up out of shape every year, stink up the hot corner and then expect its yours just because.
“…Bregman is still the most logical fit at 2B…”
I question your logic. Last season, Bregman at 6 OAA, and Devers with -6 OAA, was a delta of 12 runs. In both 2022, and 2023 the delta was 10 runs. In 2021 Bregman had a poor season defensively with 0 OAA, but the delta that year was 13.
Just about all of Devers value is with the bat. Even without Bregman, the RS would be foolish to keep Devers, and his horrendous defense, at 3B. So as long as they do have Bregman, logic says he should be the one to play 3B.
If Bregman was signed guaranteed for three years, yes, he makes sense at third. He isn’t though. Devers is a franchise player, he deserves his position.
I disagree. As I said above, even without Bregman, Devers is so bad with the glove that he shouldn’t be playing 3B. He has an awesome bat, but DH is where his bat should be.
Bregman doesn’t make sense at 2B at all. You’re paying a premium for a GG 3B on a high AAV deal. Furthermore, playing him at his preferred position increases the likelihood he will forego the opt out at least one more year to make the 2nd round pick given up for him a better investment.
You’ve got a handful of other guys available to eye towards 2B, not least of which is trying to recover value from grissom or Campbell being a possible fit as he gets experience, not to mention carryover options from last season or even sliding story back to 2B where he excelled if Mayer or anyone else steps up for thr SS role.
End of the day, hopefully bregman is the last resort option for 2B
Bregman is still the most logical fit at 2B
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There was nothing wrong with Hamilton’s performance last year.
Maybe because Bregman is the most logical fit at 3B? Maybe because Devers would not be a good fit at 3B even if the Red Sox had not signed Bregman because Devers is so bad on defense that he detracts from his value to the team by ever playing a game at the position? Maybe because the Red Sox would be a better team if Sogard played 3B and Devers went to DH?
as i yankee fan i’d take a paid-down devers in a second. he can play third base until he retires
The Sox aren’t paying down $0.01 of the contract without multiple top prospects coming back.
You’re still talking about one of the top 5 lefty bats in the game who is a physically capable fielder, albeit not a very good one.
Red Sox eat 30% of the contract in return for Dominguez, Hess & another top 15-20 Yankees prospect would be about the best deal you’d get.
Yankees prospects hardly ever pan out. I wouldn’t even think about trading with them for many reasons.
Oh I agree. Not only that. Not sending a top 5 lefty bat in the league over to the hated rivals at any cost.
I was simply pointing out the idea people have that Devers value isn’t right about where he’s paid in the current market is a really silly one.
Red Sox, even if they ate NO money, aren’t giving him away for free. He can be as whiney as he wants.
according to grok the yankees have the most success with their prospects followed by the dodgers and the cardinals
yeah that deal would never happen just reminding sox fans to appreciate what you have in devers the yankees are going into the season with a trio of sub-replacement players “battling” for third base
Well there is your problem. Using grok or anything that Elmo created.
i would take that deal in a nanosecond
The Red Sox would just love that deal. The Yankees aren’t giving up Dominguez plus other pieces to take on 70 percent of that contract.
FF, that is one of the most hilarious comments I have read on here. If Devers was a physically capable fielder, this entire subject would be moot. The fact is that between his weight, his shoulders, and his lack of range he is not physically capable of playing in the field at any position.
Devers was 10th among LHB in 2024. In 2023 he was 14th. Over the past 3 seasons he ranks 11th among LHB.
Overweight players like Devers do not age well, even at DH. Those age 31-36 seasons on his contract are going to be brutal and 2025 is his age 28 season. Either the Red Sox are going to eat 50% of his contract to account for those years when he is almost guaranteed to be awful, or he won’t be traded. After his temper tantrum about moving off 3B, I am going with he won’t be traded.
@dasit
The Yankees would be paying 110% on top of his contract. Just not happening.
i agree the yankees wouldn’t take on that salary and the red sox would never trade him to a hated rival anyway but absent those factors i would happily trade dominguez (and jones and warren) for devers. don’t know why red sox fans act like devers is rendon or chris davis. he’s not worth 3oM/year (or whatever it is) but he’s still only 28 and he’s a beast. just ask gerrit cole
Cleveland, or the likes, seems like a logical place landing place for Yoshida. Red Sox pick up a massive chunk of that contract and Guards upgrade their platoon in Right. Wherever he goes Boston is stuck with that contract. He’s a “I’ll take a flyer” guy at this point.
I doubt Cleveland would want him even in that case.
Curious why you say that? Because he’s working back from an injury?
He’s still a good hitter albeit low power. And he makes good baseball decisions. He’s slow, and has a weak arm, but very hidable in a LF role for a team that can.
He just doesn’t fit well on the BOS roster because bloom over-acquired DH types.
If there’s any truth to this then maybe Breslow should check in with Toronto. Devers for Vlad with the caveat Vlad signs an extension with the Sox.
Why would Vlad sign an extension in Boston? He was always going to free agency.
They don’t seem to do that anymore.
Toronto ain’t doing that.
Such a baby
Red Sox can pay me $313mill to clean Fenway toilets for the next 10 years and I’d do it. Might not be happy about it, but I wouldn’t whine or complain.
@Devlsh You’re human, presumably—of course you’d complain.
“What, they’re paying me hundreds of millions of dollars to clean toilets but they can’t provide a halfway decent scrub brush?”
9/$284m for a 3-4 bWAR 1B/DH entering his age 28 season who the acquiring team won’t want to play at 3B….
How much money would the Red Sox have to eat?
Jack, I can tell you that besides the salary, which admittedly not every team can afford, the Yankees, Royals, Astros, Mariners, Tigers, Reds, Cubs would all play an offensive player of Devers caliber at third base 140-150 games.
Devers played without a shortstop of any range to his left, and without a real first baseman to scoop throws almost all of last year.
I disagree on two things. No way can the Royals, Reds and Tigers afford Devers’ contract. If the Tigers could afford Devers’, they probably would have signed Bregman. The Astros probably could, but have never shown a desire to spend at that level. There’s a reason why Bregman is with the Sox, and not re-signed by the Astros.
The other thing is, plenty of teams would love to have Devers. But I can guarantee they’d all want to move him off 3B, and would only play him there in an emergency. Certainly not 140-150 games.
The Cubs would be all in on Devers if he was made available. They wouldn’t trade anything overly worthwhile but happily take that contract.
Astros would NOT play Devers at 3B, and they already have a DH. Might have worked out at 1B if they didn’t sign Walker
DETROIT….SAYS COME ON DOWN !!!!……..Those smoking street side BBQ’s smoking up some great ribs and chicken.. Come to Detroit.
As a DH/1B or 3B? Devers can hit, no doubt, but his defense is not great.
If he bats in the middle of the order and hits 30 HR 100 RBI no one will care about his defense! He’d be a good add…that big bat they are missing.
I couldn’t disagree more. Baseball is about more than just hitting. Teams do care about defense. Defense is about keeping the other team from scoring runs. Last season the RS had a run differential of +4. They also had 31 one-run games. You don’t think that limiting the runs of an opponent doesn’t matter?
I 100% agree. Greene, Meadows, Rogers and McKinistry are all gold glove caliber fielders. Play Jung whose 3B defense sucks or Devers whosec3B defense sucks. Which one would you pick?
I’d play Vierling. League average guy that isn’t going to hurt the team defensively. Unexciting, but it would keep Devers away from 3B. You equate Jung and Devers as both sucking defensively, But Jung (-3 OAA), although not good, is still clearly a better fielder than Devers (-6 OAA).
Yankees fan, so not exactly objective, but…1) If Bloom did make him a promise, I don’t see why Bloom’s promise is any less binding, unless Bloom said something like “as long as I am here…” 2) I don’t know that I’d trash the guy for relying on the Bloom promise–especially if during this off-season, he was told about Bregman it’s just kicking the tires. 3) He’s owed an enormous amount of money–if he can’t play the field adequately, Boston will have to pay down his contract to get rid of him, but, 4) Bregman could be gone after this season is done (or again, next season) so there might be movement back to the position if he waits it out.
5) once thes season starts, everyone is healthy, I think it will die down–at least for long enough to see where Bregman is likely to end up doing.
“1) If Bloom did make him a promise, I don’t see why Bloom’s promise is any less binding”
Judge Judy (and any 1st year law student) will tell you, if it isn’t written in the contract, it’s all puff and non-binding.
Written contracts are clearly preferred, but oral contracts can be binding under certain circumstances, Judge Judy and just about any lawyer will also tell you about the importance of integrity in contracts that involve continuing relationships, as well as the truthfulness of material representations that are seen as inducements.
It would take a judge about 30 seconds to throw out any action by Devers trying to enforce an “oral contract” from Bloom that he would play third base.
Re 1), couldn’t agree more.
One of the primary execs in your organization makes an important verbal commitment, one aimed at enticing the player to remain with the team, and soon enough the attitude is “well, he’s no longer with us, so none of that applies”? (And where the team’s implied position is, “on the other hand, if the player turned out to be a 6-7 WAR player, there’s no chance we’d let him out of the deal just because some of its parameters were verbal.”)
That’s fundamentally immoral
Not every player can stay focused enough to DH every day. Harold Reynolds said the same and added, he’d be concerned about Devers weight without time in the field.
All I can say is they better get off to a fast start, or this could be a talking point all year
I don’t think that a trade to every tream would require his contract being paid down. Detroit for instance should be willing to trade prospects for him straight up and install him, shoddy defense and all, at 3B just to get that bat in the lineup. Jung can hang out in AAA and replace Torres at 2B next year when he leaves.
Motor City Beach Bum, I’m sure the Tigers would love to have that bat in the lineup. Every team would. But if they acquired Devers, they would surely play him at DH, as most teams would.
Problem is Jace Jung may not be much better at 3B. If they pick up Devers then Jung could play 2B next year when Torres leaves. Jung won a gold glove at 2B in the minors a couple years ago.
As Sam Goldwyn once said: “a handshake agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on”.
No long-term promise like that is binding. If they signed a pitcher to a one-year contract, on the condition that he is a starter, then they are obligated to start him. But even that has limits.
But it is incumbent on Devers to become an acceptable glove, which he not done.
“Whether he actually asked for a trade or not isn’t known. ”
journalism at its best. i dont know whats true, i dont know whats not true, i dont know anything. but i need to get readers. so i’m just gonna throw this massive story out there and hope someone picks it up so i get more clicks
I think you might be lost. This is MLB Trade Rumours. You must be looking for MLB Trade Facts. Easy mistake to make.
you’re the 1 who is lost.
i wasnt talking about this website, i was talking about the “reporter” who posted the “story”
@CB – And if you equate clickbait media with actual journalism, you probably should not even be entering into the discussion.
Unless McAdam is 100% sure that Devers requested a trade, then it is reprehensible to post that he might have, or that he considered it.
It’s like posting that “Infractor might have cheated on his wife, but we’re not sure”. This is nonsense journalism and Boston is the worst in the country with this stuff.
There is a huge difference between the media in all of its various iterations, and real journalism. You are referencing sports media, which still has a few reputable outlets but is otherwise littered with worthless clickbait.
The problem today is that most folks cannot tell the difference between the two.
Boston showed Rafael Devers the fine print in his player’s contract and he then changed his tune and fell in line with the rest of the band.
Once you sign that big boy contract, not much leverage is left. Well, Arenado may be an exception…
I have no idea how accurate this Sean McAdam story is. Especially since I cannot read the article without paying.
But Devers’ diva attitude, struggling with weight again while already being paid over $300MM is so lame. For the life of me, just be a team player for your team. We can argue principles and whatever all we want, which has a bit of merit behind it all things considered.
At the end of the day, as a competitor, the objective is to win. To help your colleagues produce the best. Devers has already been paid. He’s set himself, and three more family generations after him, up for life.
Especially after stars like Harper and Betts recently being willing to move around as needed.
don’t forget altuve
I’m friends with Scott Harris. He said they are putting together an offer for him
Because Scott Harris is a master trader…
Ummhh…he’s done more good than bad on the trade front Garry. The Flaherty, Soto and Lorenzen trades were very clear wins.
What’s his phone number Hairy Stan so I can call and fact check that?
Note to Devers
You are not bigger than the game
Your contract isn’t going to age well
Be grateful you are on the lineup card
Any Questions?
Devers is freaking out.
No one is taking on Devers contract. This was a knee-jerk reaction to the Bregman signing and just another example of the Red Sox creating unnecessary drama with their star players
“Unnecessary drama..starting players”…I think bringing in good players will always ruffle a few feathers on the team, since someone is most likely going to lose playing time to the new player.
You think bringing in a new competitive QB doesn’t ruffle the feathers of the current QB in the NFL? I do believe if you want a championship level sports team, ruffling a few feathers and egos here and there is mostly unavoidable.
Ruffling feathers is one thing, but the some teams are worse at it than other and the Sox fit that bill. See Roger Clemens, Wil Cordero, Mo Vaughn, Nomar Garciaparra, Manny Ramirez…
Businesses are never loyal.
“Never loyal”…Is there even really an expectation of “loyalty” in business? I do not believe so, since “business” is mostly predicated on the idea that all sides in business will do what’s best for their own particular interests.
“Loyalty” implies that you might not do what’s best for your own interests or your company’s interests out of “loyalty” or pity for another person, entity or interest.
Some do fool themselves into thinking their company will take care of them with a promise.
Stupid is what stupid does. Those people have been convinced if they give up their pride for the company, the company will protect their pride. Sad fools that don’t believe in themselves, why would others believe in you?
Basically, Devers has a complete lack of self awareness. Surely he knows he’s not good at 3B.
… So Sean McAdam is just making s*** up for clicks?
“DEVERS WANTS TO LEAVE”
and in the same article
“Even though yesterday he was okay….”
I would shove that guy (yes, SHOVE) McAdam out of my face if I was a player he fabricated stories about for clicks. Where’s the journalistic integrity
This… all this.
Eff the Boston media (McAdam, Mazz, Shaughny, all of em. Well maybe not PeteAbe, Browne and Finn, but…)
There is no story here and it’s even stated as much. All speculation. It’s like throwing food into a koi pond. Just sprinkle a little speculation out there and here come the mouth breathers ready to damnify the player.
We’re on the cusp of a wonderful season and these minions are already at work. Man, they’re the worst.
saying yoshida is not a very good defensive outfielder is like saying the 2024 white sox were not a very good baseball team
I assume you are a Sox fan. What do you think About Yoshida? Do you think he was worth the fanfare and pretty good money, although these days salaries are up there.
(my opinion, not daslt opinion)
No. I think he was signed with the hope that he could hit 25 home runs in addition to what he’s actually done at the plate, and play a passable LF.
He has done neither, which makes his contract unmovable.
I’m not saying ditch him because .280 hitters with average power don’t grow on trees, but if you’re done saying good things about him as a player after those two things, it’s not worth $18 mil.
Only option is to ride out the contract if he hits and dump him if he doesn’t and eat the money.
i’m a yankee fan and at the time of the signing i thought it seemed like a reasonable risk. the problem is the red sox now have a packed outfield and a full-time dh who hits 10 home runs won’t cut it. at a reasonable cost he’s a useful player but no one is taking on the (roughly) 3/60 left on his contract. add to this the fact that every gm in the sport knows they’re desperate to unload him and they’d have to pay down something like 45M and carry 15M dead money for the next 3 years. the sunk cost fallacy is a real thing but they might have to bite the bullet and take the least worst offer they can get. by all accounts anthony is the real deal so who knows maybe he’ll end up end delivering 15M worth of production on a league minimum salary
I think it’s too soon to call for paying down $15m/yr on Yoshida.
Abreu won’t be ready. Anthony lost a ton of weight suddenly due to sickness so that’s going to impact his whole year.
Refsnyder is only back on an affordable 1 yr pact and may be gone next year.
If you only save $4m/season moving Yoshida, he may be the heir apparent to the 4th OF/PH role next season of refsnyder.
i hadn’t heard that about anthony that’s terrible hope he recovers quickly
haven’t watched any red sox games how does campbell look so far?
Agreed its terrible. One of a pile of articles out there, but, word was 10-12 pounds and he reported in good shape with plenty of muscle. It’s not like Devers dropping 12 which would be a good thing.
si.com/mlb/red-sox/boston-red-sox-news/red-sox-s-n…
Campbell had a slow start to ST with the bat, but, has showed more life in the past week since the 6th including homering together with Anthony and Mayer in the same game the kther night. So, we shall see if it is an actual Jumpstart to things for him over the next 2 weeks.
My suspicion unless things really talenoff for him is he opens the year in AAA.
thanks for the info appreciate you taking the time. i saw the big 3 all homered in the same game would be nice if the yankees had anyone in the pipeline like that
this year should be fun the division and league are wide open
The guy complained for years that they needed more impact players then acted like a baby when it was his position the player came in at. Lost a lot of respect for the kid in this situation
Big problems. Very big issues there. He wants to be at third only.
Can’t be good for team moral. Issue like this can cause division in the clubhouse. Yes? No? Maybe?
Not sure Jeff, but, I can tell you this: morale on the entire pitching staff only goes up with Devers off 3B
I agree, and have been saying this for weeks leading up to the Bregman signing.
Last year the Sox played 11 different humans at 2B. They haven’t had a real everyday 2B since Pedey retired.
Now, Devers has been kind of a diva about this. BUT, And, I blame the FO a lot of this and for not locking Bregman they signed him. What happens if he bolts? I like Bregman and hope he does well.
Where in the baseball handbook does it say “your best offensive player must also be your best defensive player”?
Is it being a “diva” when Bregman may leave Boston next season and Devers is going to be there several more? Dude signed a contract to be a career Red Sox, it’s not a diva, it’s stupid, absolutely stupid to sign Bregman without having discussions with Devers and having him on board with the plan first.
A diva? Really? Did you actually read what he has said? Or just the idiotic comments from haters on here?
I dont see any quotes here where devers said he considered asking for a trade.
.am i missing something? All i see is that he has definitely not asked for one..mcadam must be bored now it looks like hes spitballing on hypotheticals lol..but i suppose it is a rumor even if its totally fake
There’s a Vlad for Raffy solution in here somewhere.
“Vlad for Raffy”…The body weights are reasonably close, but I believe the Blue Jays might ask for another player, since they’d be trading away about 290 lbs but only getting about 250 lbs back from Boston.
I’m sure there’s some lead in devers’ glove that makes up for things a bit somehow.
MLBTR proof reader on vacay?
Cora’s ego in the short term won out. Devers has to acknowledge he’s not healthy enough to deserve 3B. Hence, the back down from his own ego and asking for a trade. He doesn’t have the leverage, all he can do is work hard and prove them wrong.
However, all this will be forgot. Bregman will be pushed to 2B and will be grateful for it. Devers will get his spot back and the team will move on with the best lineup until the prospects ruin the balance again. What resolves this is unknown but probably injuries or straight up trades.
This isn’t really news. It’s an open secret the Devers is all about Devers.
Such a dumb take
Who would want to trade for Devers if he insists on playing 3rd base? His defensive numbers are atrocious. He is a feared hitter but that is about it.
Detroit.
Motor City Beach Bum, Who’s the current DH in Detroit? Is it still Malloy? If so, based on them acquiring Devers, it would be silly to play Devers at 3B and not DH.
Carp would be but with injuries in the OF he likely plays out there and Tork or Malloy would get the bulk of the DH at bats.
Born to DH!
The Yankees would give their left nut to have Devers at third base.
Driving in runs on offense and giving some back on defense. Sounds like he should DH and be thankful he can at least hit.
Cora has to step in here and squash this garbage. Even if Devers was 100% adamant about sticking at 3B, isn’t he allowed to see reason and change his mind? He’s a kid who barely speaks the language (evidently) and when he’s cornered into answering volatile questions, not every answer is going to be 100% accurate.
I’d like to see Cora have his back and put all this crap to bed. The line-up and positioning will be handled on a game by game basis. Own it Cora. Be a leader.
cora wasn’t a leader as a player and isn’t one as a manager
typical Red Sox maneuver, they bring in a convicted cheater and treat one of their own as the outsider..
Mookie Betts is probably on the phone with Devers telling him to get out of dodge..
1. I would have loved that “cheater” on the Yankees. Hands down, Bregman is damn good on both sides of the ball. We should have gotten him instead of the Sox.
2. Dodgers will have a vacancy at 3rd next season if they don’t extend Muncy (doubtful). Sox and LAD have lined up before, wouldn’t put it past them to do so again.
And Yoshida to the bench…
Absolutely no one would take that terrible contract!
The Red Sox are commissioning baseball to change to pick your field and automatic throws.
Manfred might just do it.
If it’s true , he joins the “non player club” with Juan Soto .that’s just ridiculous. I know it’s financially impossible but it would serve him right if the Red Sox shipped him off to one of the teams that have no chance of winning ever in the current mlb climate.
Man, you’re petty, cash.
Not really just bored as well as someone who isn’t particularly fond of Mr Devers in the first place on the bright side at least he won’t be able to beat up on Cole this year
Devers is signed long term, Bregman is only guaranteed to be there for a season.
I get wanting to win but angering your franchise player on a potential one year flyer is stupid. If Devers moves to DH this season, he’s a DH for the rest of his career. It’s not like he is going to improve his defense by not playing the position for a year.
This is a worse situation than Suzuki in Chicago. Also, what is Boston going to do with Yoshida? Bregman was a really shortsighted move by the Red Sox.
“If Devers moves to DH this season, he’s a DH for the rest of his career.”
He absolutely should be a DH for the rest of his career.
Then he realized no one wanted him as a 3B. So he capitulated to the inevitable move to DH.
He considered it. He decided not to ask for a trade. Sounds like he’s moving on. I think I will too.
Exactly, cards. This is like 1950’s housewife gossip.
Yeesh, leave it to a StL fan to be the voice of reason. I feel icky now.
Born and raised in IL by diehard Cub fans… sorry, had it say it. Seriously tho, drop that mic.
Good for him. They make an agreement with him and then broke it. Cora then had the balls to place the blame all in Bloom.
If they didn’t make that agreement with him, he more than likely doesn’t sign an extension, hits FA, and some team makes the same commitment to him and he makes more money in a bidding war.
Why can’t Devers at least try 2nd base for awhile. It’s a much easier position on defense and maybe his defense is more pallatable than 3B. Obviously his throws would be much shorter and he has more time on grounders. It could maybe add some value on defense for him, not to mention how much it could help the team. And with Bregman at 3B the defense is much better. And he would lose some weight running around much more at 2B.
I don’t think “helping the team” is on Devers’ to-do list.
That statement makes it obvious you don’t think.
“helping the team” will help Devers help himself value wise if indeed he really wants out of Boston. Getting off on a hot streak will also help the Sox value wise if they want to move him.
It could prove a win-win.
Players like Gleyber Torres and Devers, who are Atrocious fielders at their chosen positions (2B & 3B, respectively), but insist that they must continue to Suck at their chosen position, sicken me.
Most fans tend to overlook the fact that in any other normal profession, you’d be fired and be collecting unemployment if you sucked at half your job.
Yet, players, like Torres & Devers, act like teams should just live with their atrocious defense.
Devers, you’re an excellent hitter, but you’re an Awful third basemen; and Torres, you’re a mediocre hitter, an atrocious base runner, and a God-Awful 2B, so both of you shut the F Up, and stop whining about your employer wanting to improve their defense, when you’re being paid millions of dollars to do about 50% of the job of a truly great player.
“…you’d be fired…if you sucked at half your job.”
Well maybe. I think a better analogy might be if a guy worked at a warehouse/delivery job. He’s a hard worker, strong, who can load a truck quickly and efficiently, without damage. Except that he can’t drink the truck for $hit. The smart thing is not fire him, use him for what he does best, but take him out of the drivers’ seat. Just as the RS should keep Devers, use him for what he does best, but take him off 3B.
The speculation was speculative.
He’s getting moved sometime. Boston’s front office sees him as a trade chip now and no longer part of the long-term picture.
That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
@ghostofmookiebetts
If you step back and look at the Red Sox’s roster from a long-term perspective, Devers’ trade potential makes a lot of sense, even if it seems out of left field now. With Bregman’s arrival and his superior defense at third base, it’s clear that Devers’ spot at the hot corner is in jeopardy. His defensive numbers have always been poor, and with Boston needing to make room for other guys in the lineup—like Yoshida, who also needs DH time—it creates a bit of a logjam. Devers’ contract, though not bad for a bat of his caliber, becomes a bigger concern if he’s locked into DH duties as he ages. The new front office, led by Breslow, didn’t sign Devers to that deal and may not have the same attachment to him as Bloom did. If they think he doesn’t fit their long-term vision, they’ll look to trade him while his value is still high. Plus, if the third base market stays weak, Devers could quickly become one of the top targets available, giving the Sox leverage. Add in the risk of performance decline, and moving him now seems like a smart play to maximize return while his bat is still at its peak. So, while the trade talk isn’t happening today, it’s not a matter of if, but when, especially with all the moving pieces in play.
Bregman is gone after this year if he plays well
Who cares? This is just as bad as small town gossip at this point. He said what he needed to and has moved on. Time for the “reporters” and everyone else to do the same.
Crybaby, and one who couldn’t catch his tears apparently
OJ promised he’d love Nicole forever.
Things can change.
The Red Sox need Devers even more than Devers needs the Red Sox. They’d be foolish to let him go. Explain to him that he has to DH for the good of the team this year, because theyre trying to win a postseason spot.
He’s a franchise player.