Earlier this week, Nick Deeds gave MLBTR readers a chance to voice their opinions about where Kyle Gibson, the top unsigned starting pitcher from MLBTR’s Top 50 Free Agents list, and David Robertson, the top unsigned reliever, would end up. That leaves one more unsigned player from our Top 50 list left to cover: 32-year-old right-hander Spencer Turnbull.
Turnbull became a free agent for the first time last offseason. He was coming off a poor final season with the Tigers. After missing all of 2022 while recovering from Tommy John surgery, he pitched to a 7.26 ERA and 5.24 SIERA over seven starts in April and May before suffering a neck injury. Upon his return from the IL in August, Detroit optioned him to Triple-A – even though he was nursing an injured foot at the time. The team would retroactively reverse the option in November (after non-tendering him the week prior), thereby granting Turnbull a full year of service time. Nonetheless, that didn’t change the fact that he spent the final weeks of the 2023 season in the minors, pitching to a 6.23 ERA and 4.25 FIP in eight starts.
Despite such an unceremonious ending to his Tigers tenure, Turnbull landed a $2MM guarantee from the Phillies last February, only $400K lower than his projected arbitration salary. It quickly seemed as if Philadelphia had struck gold, as the righty looked terrific out of the gate. Initially expected to start the season in the bullpen, Turnbull was thrust into the rotation when Taijuan Walker suffered an injury toward the end of spring training. Through six turns in the Phillies rotation during April, Turnbull tossed 32 1/3 frames with a 1.67 ERA and 3.37 SIERA. He struck out 28.3% of the batters he faced while inducing ground balls at a 49.4% rate.
Turnbull didn’t look quite as sharp after transitioning to a bullpen role in May, putting up a 4.26 ERA and 3.80 SIERA over his next 19 innings. Still, the Phillies were confident enough in his skills that they returned him to the rotation at the end of June when Walker suffered another injury. Unfortunately, Turnbull lasted just three innings in his first start in eight weeks, exiting with shoulder soreness and later hitting the IL with a right lat strain. That injury would prove to be season-ending.
All in all, Turnbull finished the 2024 season with impressive numbers: a 2.65 ERA and 3.67 SIERA, both career-bests. His 26.1% strikeout rate and 17.1% K-BB% were the best marks of his career as well. Unfortunately, 54 1/3 innings isn’t much of a sample size, and his lat strain only added to his reputation as an injury-prone pitcher. He has spent time on the 60-day IL in each of the past four seasons, and only once has he thrown more than 60 innings in a season (148 1/3 IP in 2019). Thus, MLBTR described him as “something of a wild card” on our Top 50 Free Agents list this offseason. On a per-inning basis, Turnbull has shown the skills to be an above-average starting pitcher – he has averaged just over 3.0 FanGraphs WAR per 162 IP throughout his career – but that means a lot less for a pitcher who has not proven he can consistently start more than a handful of games per season.
All of that explains why Turnbull remains unsigned into March, and indeed, it sheds light on why he has not been credibly linked to a single suitor this winter. That being said, it’s not as if Turnbull can’t provide value to a major league club. Even with all the time he spent on the injured list in 2024, he was well worth his $2MM salary to the Phillies, producing 0.7 FanGraphs WAR and 1.2 Baseball Reference WAR while helping the team to victory in 12 of the 17 games in which he appeared. In a poll last month, more MLBTR readers voted Turnbull as the top remaining free agent starter than either Gibson or Andrew Heaney. While it now seems unlikely that Turnbull will secure the one-year, $7MM contract MLBTR initially predicted, he surely deserves a major league roster spot for the upcoming campaign.
So, where might Turnbull find that roster spot? At this point in the year, most teams are happy to stick with their in-house rotation options. It makes sense. Those are the guys the catchers, coaching staff, and analytics department are familiar with and the guys each team has been working with all spring. That means someone like Gibson might be forced to wait for an injury to free up a rotation spot he can claim. Turnbull, however, proved he could hold his own in a long-relief capacity last season, which would make it easier for a team to sign him as rotation depth, even if that team does not immediately have a rotation spot available. As he did with the Phillies, Turnbull could join a team with the expectation of pitching out of the bullpen, and eventually, a starting opportunity would almost certainly arise. That flexibility, in addition to the lack of rumors surrounding Turnbull and the relatively low salary he will command, makes it very difficult to narrow down the field of potential landing spots.
Back in November, Tim Dierkes predicted Turnbull would sign with the Padres, Anthony Franco the Rockies, Darragh McDonald the Blue Jays, and Steve Adams the Twins. San Diego and Colorado still seem like possibilities; the Padres are short on rotation depth even after signing Nick Pivetta and Kyle Hart this winter, while Austin Gomber’s shoulder soreness should have the Rockies looking to add another arm. Toronto, on the other hand, already has some good rotation depth in the form of Bowden Francis or Yariel Rodríguez (whichever one does not make the Opening Day rotation). Meanwhile, Minnesota has former top prospects Zebby Matthews, David Festa, and Louis Varland waiting in the wings, as well as Rule 5 draft pick Eiberson Castellano. The Twins have spent more than expected on free agents this winter, and it’s hard to think they’d be willing to spend any more on an area that is already a strength.
As for other potential suitors, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch recently reported that the Cardinals are considering adding a free agent reliever. While Turnbull isn’t a reliever, strictly speaking, he would likely be an upgrade over an arm like Gordon Graceffo, Kyle Leahy, or Chris Roycroft in a long-relief role. He would also offer depth to a rotation that lost both Gibson and Lance Lynn to free agency. Turnbull could come in especially handy if the Cardinals find a trade partner for one of their more expensive starters, such as Sonny Gray or Miles Mikolas, during the season.
The Guardians, Astros, Angels, White Sox, and Athletics are some more teams that could theoretically make room in their rotations. The Guardians are hoping to get some rotation upgrades midseason when Shane Bieber and John Means return from Tommy John, but they could use some help earlier in the year. RosterResource currently has Triston McKenzie (5.11 ERA, 5.34 SIERA in 20 starts from 2023-24) penciled in as their number five starter. The Astros also have several starters on the IL, leaving Hayden Wesneski, who has only made 22 starts in his career, as their most likely number five starter on Opening Day.
The Angels, arguably, have a complete rotation right now, but that’s only if they trust Reid Detmers in a regular role. The once-promising southpaw spent a significant portion of the 2024 season at Triple-A and pitched to a 6.70 ERA in 17 MLB starts. Meanwhile, the White Sox’s rotation is full of question marks after de facto “ace” Martín Pérez, but one might think they’d prefer to give as many opportunities as possible to the young arms within their organization. The Athletics are in a similar position.
One last team I would consider is the Mets. While they entered spring training with a surplus of starting pitching, their depth already looks thin after Frankie Montas and Sean Manaea both suffered injuries. Turnbull would likely be a depth upgrade over José Ureña, whom the Mets recently signed to a minor league deal.
So, where do MLBTR readers think Turnbull will ultimately wind up? Have your say in the poll below:
Red Bull!
I think he would make a good addition to the Braves pen.
Overseas
It’s funny, every team’s rotation is momentarily ‘Full’. But yet no one has a full rotation…how does this career of reporting work exactly?! lol
What exactly is your point? I mute fools like braveshomer.
He’s had ML success. He just can’t stay healthy. Overseas is usually for guys who can’t cut it in the big leagues. So they go over there and sometimes they’ll figure it out
Minor league deal.
The Guardians make a lot of sense while they wait for Bieber & Means to get healthy. Turnbull can start for them or be a long man out of the pen.
I think they already have 3 or 4 guys who can fill that role. McKenzie might be converted to a reliever. Junis is a swing guy. Ben Lively is a swing guy. Even Slade Cecconi has done both starting and relieving, although as a guy with options I think they stretch him out and out him in AAA.
Turnbull honestly would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding club. He’s going to need time to ramp up and managing his work load at the front end of the season is doable for a non contender. Then you hope to get him hot mid season and trade him.
He’d be a good fit because he’ll most likely be on the IR once Bieber is ready to play.
Instead of seeing him as just a pitcher, teams should see him as a “roster fixer.” Because he can start or relieve, a team can use him to fill in wherever they have a problem. This means they don’t have to keep a separate “just-in-case” starter and a separate “just-in-case” reliever. They can use Turnbull for both.. This frees up a roster spot for another player, or allows the team to be more flexible with their strategies.
Tampa Bay Rays, or the Los Angeles Dodgers
Sorry this is unrelated but any article about vlad Jr talking about getting “only” less than 600 million?
I always liked Turnbull when he was with the Tigers and he’s exactly the kind of pitcher the current pitching staff with the Tigers could work miracles with. Unfortunately how his tenure with the Tigers ended left a bitter taste in the mouths of both sides. He’s a good guy, though, and I hope he finds a major league contract with somebody soon. He’s arguably a better option than many who have already signed, including Alex Cobb, who the Tigers are overpaying to be in the injured list.
He’s successful when healthy. He just can’t stay healthy. He’s already figured it out though.
No where
Admittedly anecdotal if not less reliable, Turnbull is one of those whose UCL was sacrificed chasing a no-hitter.
That aside, he did leave Detroit in a joint huff so that natural reunion can’t happen.
Besides, who knows what’s left there.
That’s not true. He only threw 117 pitches in that game which is not excessive. He had 99 the previous start and pitched 100 2 starts later. Unlike most pitchers with TJ he performed fine until they shut him down. Definitely different than his return where he was pitching horribly, was sent down, then suddenly revealed he had been playing hurt. Whatever happened to him, the no hitter wasn’t the issue.
Given that at this point Turnbull is likely getting a minor league deal to serve as depth literally all 30 teams are possible (though technically so is the entire NPB, KBO, and Mexican League)
My guess is you can strike Detroit from the list 🙂
Probably true
Burnt his bridges in Detroit and they don’t want him back. Lots of players like to play with tigers and want to come back when they are gone. But there is no love lost in Detroit when he left. He can play anywhere he wants but you noticed the Phillies weren’t interested in resigning him and I expect a lot of other teams are not going to be interested either at any price
That is very interesting. You’d think the Phillies would have signed him as depth since it went well the first time. $7 million for a starter that put up his numbers is pretty reasonable. There must have been some other reason not to bring him back.
You forgot to add that Turnbull is a kind of…well, scratch that, IS a huge a-hole. He’s well versed in PR/Media session, knows what to say, but every year leaks come out of the locker room that he’s just a giant diva (which doesn’t play to a lockerroom very well when you can’t complete a bullpen soft-toss without some random injury you can’t play through).
The end of the Tigers tenure was dramatic enough for the big screen. Not once but twice going to the front office with an “injury” after being demoted due to performance.
Scott Boras didn’t do him many favors neither. But boy that’s one helluva combo there. Least liked duo in baseball
I don’t agree. He pitched well for Detroit. He got injured. Just like the Rodriguez trade, and the Candelario non tender, this was something a new POBO didn’t handle well. Just like you don’t trade a player to a team on their no trade list, you don’t option an injured player to the minors. Harris didn’t seem to know these basics. You also shouldn’t non tender a player, leaving a hole at 3B in your lineup, over a $1MM difference of opinion.
I will agree that a player of his caliber should not be a Boras client.
I disagree that Harris handled it incorrectly. Spencer was playing hardball. He had no right, nor did he deserve to be with the MLB club. He was awful. The organization handled that situation very well. They cut him loose and gave him his service time retroactively. No grievance needed. No team wants to let a young, controllable player with his talents get away. But, they did, just to maintain their dignity as an organization.
Not sure how the organization could have handled that better. But, I’d like to hear it.
He “got injured” after he was sent down for throwing batting practice when his turn in the rotation came up. He was terrible and nothing like the 2021 ace that got injured. Turnbull admitted he didn’t tell anyone he was playing hurt and then pulled the same thing again. Harris handled it fine. He gave him the service time he really didn’t earn and then didn’t offer him a contract. Not sure any club would have gone thru arbitration with him after that and some would have fought the service time.
Right, I forgot about how his tenure ended in Detroit. Phillies didn’t seem interested in a reunion, this is a tough one…
I know where he won’t be signing and I’d be willing to bet on it!
However, this is why it’s important to mend fences and be the “bigger man” when things go awry in contract disputes. You don’t want that kind of hard-nosed reputation as an organization because it will impact your ability to sign free agents.
Best of luck to Spencer. But, I haven’t forgotten what he did.
Turnbull really took advantage of the Tigers. Harris was classy by reversing the minor league option and allowing Turnbull a full year of service time. He couldn’t be optioned anymore to the minors.
I think Harris threw Scott Boras a bone so he could get Turnbull a major league deal….and more $$$ (not that he needs it) for Boras.
Turnbull is not a rugged guy. He gets hurt and he does not like the minor leagues.
I’m sure he would be attractive to a lot of teams on minor league deals. But he does not want that. He wants a major league deal and if he can’t get ready…or hurts himself again, he won’t care.
He does not want to get hurt pitching in East Palookaville. Cuz’ he knows he will.
AAA !