Around nine teams have been in contact with the Padres to express interest in Dylan Cease, writes Jon Heyman of The New York Post. Heyman lists the Cubs, Mets and all five AL East teams among that group. The remaining two clubs are unknown, though The Athletic reported in January that the Twins had shown interest.
A pre-Opening Day trade still seems highly unlikely. Kevin Acee of The San Diego Union-Tribune wrote earlier this week that the Padres were only willing to entertain trading their top starter if they received a significant offensive upgrade in the return package. They’d almost certainly want a controllable starting pitcher who could immediately replace Cease in the rotation as well. That’s a difficult asking price for another team to meet, especially without impactful hitters remaining in free agency to backfill the lineup.
Cease was traded midway through last year’s Spring Training. That was a different situation, as the White Sox were in full rebuild mode when they dealt him to the Padres. San Diego expects to compete for a playoff spot despite budget limitations that kept them from doing much of significance until they added Nick Pivetta on a backloaded four-year deal. Cease worked 189 1/3 innings of 3.47 ERA ball during his first season in San Diego. He struck out 29.4% of opponents and fanned 224 hitters overall — his fourth consecutive season above the 200 mark.
The Padres and Cease agreed to a $13.75MM salary for his final arbitration season. He’d be a lock for a qualifying offer when he hits free agency next winter unless the Friars deal him midseason, which would make him ineligible to receive the QO. Cease will be heading into his age-30 season and could command a contract above $200MM. While the Padres don’t seem optimistic about their chances of re-signing him, they’d obviously take a major downgrade to this year’s rotation if they trade him.
Ken Rosenthal and Patrick Mooney of The Athletic reported earlier this week that the Orioles and Cubs were monitoring the rotation market. Baltimore will begin the season without Grayson Rodriguez. Chicago’s rotation hasn’t taken any huge injury hits, though they’ll be without Javier Assad for a few weeks. They’re reportedly in talks with free agent Lance Lynn, who’d be a much less costly but far lower-upside addition at the back of the rotation.
The Mets (Frankie Montas, Sean Manaea) and Yankees (Gerrit Cole, Luis Gil) have each lost multiple starters to injuries this spring. It has been particularly rough in the Bronx. Gil will likely miss the first half of the season with a lat strain. Cole will be out into the middle of 2026 after undergoing Tommy John surgery. Nevertheless, respective baseball operations leaders David Stearns and Brian Cashman have indicated the New York teams are content with their internal options to weather those losses.
Boston already parted with two top prospects to add an impact starter in the Garrett Crochet deal. Toronto and Tampa Bay have rotations that arguably each run six deep. The Jays are likely to use Yariel Rodríguez in long relief. The Rays could consider trading one of their starters to settle on a five-man group. That could theoretically position Toronto or Tampa Bay to include a controllable starter in a Cease package, though there’s nothing to suggest the Padres are in anything more than due diligence mode with Opening Day two weeks off.
No way!!! Teams want Dylan Cease??? I would’ve never guessed!
If he were to get traded I’d think Baltimore gets him
God, I hope so!
Basallo and McDermott
I think Basallo is untouchable. Jackson might actually be more attainable. But unlikely too. I think Mayo and definitely Kjerstad are on the table at this point. McDermott can go. I think he’s an RP.
Basallo is the price though. Preller has no problem rolling out with Cease at the helm of the Pads’ rotation.
Basallo not getting moved, understandable ask. Mayo if any as the return I’d imagine.
McDermott lightly injured ATM.
Actually Preller asked for more than that. He wanted either Mayo or Basallo plus Povich and McDermott.
O’s and Padres do not match up well. Padres would want a pitcher and/or a clear possible upgrade (mlb ready) for left field.
The Padres and Cubs would actually match up perfectly but as a Cub fan, I don’t want to see Hoyer deal any more prospects in his desperate (and pathetic) attempt to save his job and if he is so ignorant, deal for Alcantara because they have the bullets to do so.
Agreed. Samuel is too high of a price. Kjerstad probably has more value than Mayo, but the O’s could afford to lose either one of those guys. Add McDermott as the pitcher and I like that trade from Baltimore’s perspective and is as good as SD can expect for someone in the final year of their contract (discounting a QO, of course.)
Holliday for Cease would be ridiculous for a season of a starter
Only pitcher that makes sense is Bauer.
Orioles and Padres match up very well.
O’s received extra draft picks for players who walked the last few years.
O’s draft well
P’s have many young players far away from free agency and too many players and too few positions open for their prospects to play in MLB
Got to clear out space for the next wave of prospects
Hoarding prospects and parking them on the bench or @ AAA just delays their development and lowers their trade value.
They don’t match well at all. The padres would want some pitcher to come back to replace Cease in the rotation and the Os pitching depth is thin as is.
It would also seem highly unlikely the Os send any of their highly ranked (top 20) prospects for one year of Cease. Contrarily, they would match up better with Miami for Alcantara since it a whole lot more palatable to trade a top 20 guy for a pitcher with more control.
They match up better with other teams like Orioles Red Sox, Orioles, Cubs etc
Well that is probably the most ridiculous statement I’ve heard considering the Padres would want a starting pitcher to replace Cease and a corner outfielder and the Cubs have Brown, Assad, Horton, Pearson and Wicks who are either all MLB players or near MLB ready and two MLB ready outfielders in Caissie and Alcantara.
Preller asked for Basallo or Mayo, Povich, and McDermott. Please tell me they have decided to go ahead with that trade.
That might be the ask, and he’s free to ask for whatever he wants, but it’s more likely that the offer is more like:
Mayo
Povich or McDermott
A couple lottery picks
Organizational depth
Of course, if Preller decides to trade closer to the deadline then the package will be more loaded with prospects and the price will be higher.
Price goes down at the deadline. Fewer innings to pitch and no QO to recoup a pick in FA.
Orioles are right to say no to this type of framework anyways as it is WAY more than they gave up for Burnes last year and is arguably more than the Red Sox gave up to get 2 years for Crochet.
DH – Actually, prices for top SP don’t change all that much at the Deadline. The reason is pretty clear. In a 2-3 game series, having an Ace can be the difference between winning the series and moving on, and losing the series and going home.
cease is not an ace,more like a 2.that being said all teams on this list could use him.
Perspective is everything. Cease would be an “ace” for Orioles right now given the uncertainty of GrayRod’s injury.
Struckoutagain, Preller either gets what he wants in trade or he keeps Cease. Its a win-win…for Preller and the Padres.
Do the Orioles want Cease? Then they pay the price that Preller sets. A price that may well have gone up since the Winter Meetings.
The Padres have no need or desire to trade Cease, so it’s incumbent on the Orioles or another team to pay what the Padres want for him, or they won’t get him in trade. It’s not incumbent on the Padres to lower their price to what fans think is fair.
Padres want to use a “rotational” DH to give various veterans a day off their feet on defense.
#5 in a MLB. fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&st… That is an Ace regardless of your criteria.
C/1B Sam Basallo
AND.
EITHER
RHSP. Chayce McDermott
OR. LHP Cade Povich
Will get it done.
LOL… Of course that will get it done. The Orioles are paying about 2X what Cease is worth.
Don’t know what ypu have been smoking?!
Cease was in the “Top 5”
of Cy Young Voting in both the NL and AL over the oast 4 years.
#1 “Top of the Rotation” Ace Starters do not grow on trees and are rarely available in trades.
Pay the Padres price or risk missing the playoffs or if they make the playoffs, then getting knocked out in the 1st round.
With thr Padres with moves made this year they are a playoffs team with or without Cease.
And, talks appear to be serious since the Padres have sent scouts to closely watch players they may could be sent back to San Diego in a proposed deal:
Padres Scouts have been recently spotted closely watching players for: Yankees,Cubs, Orioles, Blue Jay’s, Rays, Mets, Red Sox and more.
With injuries and gaps in rotations. the likelihood of a Padres trade of Cease has risen to 50/50.
If Orioles want to go deep in playoffs, then a Cease deal ould help them do it.
They won’t take guys the Orioles don’t want in their roster for Cease.
The Orioles have piled up extra draft picks with qualifying offers for free agents that have walked
Mike Elias and the Orioles can afford to put C/1B Basallo and either LHSP Cade Povich
Or RHSP Chayce McDermott in any deal for Dylan Cease.
Otherwise, Cease may be traded to another contending team
Than it’ll remain un-done….
And the Orioles will have another
” one round of playoffs and done”
if they can make the playoffs incompetitive AL East.
Jay’s, Red Sox and Rays are in the rise.
Cross the Cubs off the list. “Shallow pockets” Ricketts and that genius Hoyer are going to sign another mediocre pitcher in Lance Lynn.
Yeah probably
For what just so they can let him go like they did burns and be cheap?! Lol
Step right up, for the low low price of your top two prospects he can be yours today(for just one season)
They don’t want prospects. They want something similar to what the Brewers got for Burnes: a controllable major league starter and a controllable major league position player.
Ortiz and Hall were essentially still prospects when the Os traded them for Burnes. Close to ML level but barely any ML experience.
They want a hell of a lot more
than the brewers got
It will take far, far more than just prospects. Preller has been consistent in asking for a top 25-30 overall prospect that is MLB ready, 2 SP that are MLB ready, plus a MLB player.
Red Sox – Mayer, Fitts, Gonzalez, Abreu.
Cubs – Shaw, Brown, Assad, Aliendo
Mets – Sproat, Megill, Mauricio, Parada
Orioles – Basallo or Mayo, Povich, McDermott, and a player that would depend on whether it was Basallo or Mayo headlining the deal.
Preller has been asking all offseason for a massive deal that would immediately make the Padres a better team. He has no reason to trade Cease if it doesn’t. Yes, I know it’s for one year of Cease but Preller has all the leverage, so he doesn’t have to settle for less.
No way Sproat or Mauricio for a rental. Megill Parada NcNeil Nimmo Taylor Marte $.
proof, you are talking about what you think is fair. I am telling you what Preller already said would be necessary to complete a trade. Preller has been clear in saying the Padres have no desire to trade Cease, so if the Mets or any other team wants to trade for him, they are going to have to meet Preller’s asking price. It doesn’t matter what you or I think is fair.
And that’s why no deal has gotten done or will get done. No GM should be eager to give up more than the Orioles gave up last year for one year of Burnes or the Red Sox did for 2 years of Crochet for one year of Dylan Cease.
One MLB ready top 100 prospect type and one controllable role player would be a fair offer (e.g. Cubs offer of Wicks + one of Triantos/Horton/Alcantara; Mets offer of Sproat + Marte (paid down); Orioles offer of Povich + Hjerstad) for one year of Cease.
DH, you are talking about what you think is fair. I am telling you what Preller already said would be necessary to complete a trade for Cease.
Preller has been clear in saying the Padres have no need or desire to trade Cease, so if the Mets or any other team wants to trade for him, they are going to have to meet Preller’s asking price. It doesn’t matter what you or I think is fair.
None of your trade proposals are even close to enough if we are trying to be fair.
Padres are not conducting a
“fire sale”.
It is “supply and demand” situation.
NYY Cashman has stated in Media that top of rotation Starters are slim pickings on the trade market.
Cease is the only one that may be available for the right price which will be a very high price.
Padres have a history of making blockbusters in Spring Training and at start of season.
Preller and the Padres hold all the cards in a Cease deal at this time.
Yankees have two of their top starters injured.( one had Tommy John surgery).
If Cashman things Stroman can help them win a Title, then go with him.
I have my doubts.
They could muss the playoffs in the competitive AL East if they don’t upgrade their rotation.
Yankees may not match up with the Padres
with young major league hitters and a starter with big upside.
No team wanted to pony up the cash for Soto until they did.
Teams that hoard prospects have not won the World Series lately.
The Dodgers and Yankes traded prospects to get to the World Series last year.
Preller leverage will slip once the season starts due to QO offer out the window.
It won’t slip because he just won’t trade him. People act like they need to trade him. They are trying to win just like everyone else.
With Profar leaving without any real plan in place and lots of smoke about trading their best reliever among others. I think their wanting to win it all mode is for next year at the very least.
You are assuming the Padres WANT to trade Cease. They don’t.
The loss of a QO doesn’t lower the asking price at the deadline for TOR starters.
The loss of a QO absolutely lowers the price of a player. Teams always factor that extra draft pick into the player’s intrinsic value.
History says you are wrong about TOR starting pitchers.
No it won’t since the Padres will just roll the entire Season with Cease if no team gives them an offer that they cannot refuse.
If they’re out of the race at the deadline they’ll have to trade Cease, King and Arraez.
Some teams might value the QO comp pick more than others but to say it doesn’t lower the price is to say that teams place an intrinsic value of $0 on it.
With the expanded playoffs, it’s really hard to be out of it completely at the deadline. Last season 3 teams were considered out of it at the deadline. You could be really pessimistic and say it was actually 5. Even so, 25 teams were still very much in the race for a playoff spot at the deadline. As it was 20 teams finished in the playoffs or within 6 games of a WC spot.
The Padres don’t have to do anything.
History shows us they are far more likely to make a push by adding than dumping any of those 3 in trade.
All 3 players will be eligible for a QO. They could keep them all expecting to get a QO draft pick for all 3.
They may be in negotiations to extend some or all of them since they have so much money coming off the books including $17 million AAV to Hosmer.
All they have to do is play the rest of the games.
History shows that since the QO started in 2003 for TOR starters it simply has not affected the price in trade.
Let’s say a team places an intrinsic value of $5m on the QO pick (I pulled that figure out of you-know-where, you can assign whatever value you want to it). That means the moment the regular season starts that team reduces their trade offer by $5m or the equivalent value in prospect capital. That’s less pronounced with the top tier guys because it’s a smaller percentage of their total trade value but it’s asinine to say that it isn’t a factor.
Preller has only really sold at the deadline in 2016 despite the fact that he really should have (at least on his pending free agents) every year except 2020, 2022 and 2024 so unless things get “plague of locusts” bad in 2025 they probably go to the QO on those dudes.
That’s insane. Cubs aren’t giving up that much for a rental. No way. That said, I think Brown is going to either be a backend starter with upside or a high leverage reliever (more likely).
Hoyer is “on the bubble” down to his last contract year.
The Cubs need to make a ” big splash” and make the playoffs or Hoyer could be watching the games on TV next year..
Web, if that’s the case, Cease isn’t going anywhere then because that’s a ridiculous ask for a #2 rental. He’d have to at least have multiple years of control to expect to practically clean out someone’s farm system. Preller obviously doesn’t want to trade him now that ownership sprung for Pivetta, Heyward and Joe.
Preller has been consistent. 4 teams that we know of came to the Padres at the Winter Meetings asking what their price would be for Cease. He told all 4 the same thing. That was long before they signed Pivetta, Joe, or Heyward.
What that says rather clearly is that the Padres have no intention of trading Cease, so if you want him, step up with an insane offer. Otherwise Cease will stay a Padre.
The Padres are not looking for prospects. They want MLB players or at the very least MLB-ready players. Even the Top 30 overall prospects that Preller has asked for have all been MLB ready.
Cease is recognized as a #1 top of the Rotation Starters.
Cease received “Top 4”
Cy Young Award votes in both the NL and AL over the last 4 years.
Cease would be the #1 Starter for most of those teams who have inquired about trading for him including the Orioles.
You are the only one I have ever read that keeps saying Cease is a #2 Starter.
Pitchers who are voted by both the AL and the NL as a top 4 vote getter for the coveted Cy Young Award for the best pitcher in the AL, then best in the NL
ARE NOT #2 Starters.
They are # 1 Starters like Cease according to virtually all the baseball experts that have rated Cease.
Repeatedly posting nonsense disrespecting Cease’s talent and accomplishments will not lower Cease’s value.
dsett, he is a #1 starter. #5 in MLB. fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&lg…
Then Cease won’t be traded. No team is going to make themselves worse in 2025 to trade for one year of Dylan Cease the Boras client.
Doh! That is the point. The Padres don’t want or need to trade Cease. If any team wants him, they are going to have to give the Padres what they want for him, or he stays a Padre.
I think Cease will be traded to a team with the young players depth.
Teams that are confident that they still have plenty of young talent going forward and who draft well every year to replace any traded players.
@SportsFan0000 A team isn’t going to make themselves worse now to trade for one year of Cease.
If he gets traded will there be anything else to talk about?
Sandy Alcantara’s ears will start ringing. Considering how he’s looked in ST and more club control (2/34.6M with a 21M team option), I’d be more interested in him. Think about that. You get 3 years of Sandy Alcantara for 4.6M more than 1 year of Soto.
He will start the season in San Diego…
…so he’s getting traded to the Rangers?!?!
Will these rumors never Cease?
They will never be Dylan
So the Dodgers are the only team that can afford to give up what the Padres want?
The only reason it hasn’t happened is because LA wants to defer what SD wants until 2038. Ok, I’ll see myself out with my massive amounts of originality, lol. For the record, that was actually my first deferments quip.
Dodgers farm system has taken some hits in trades.
And, Dodgers have had record pitching injuries.
And, Padres rarely trade with Division rivals especially the Dodgers.
This leak is designed to manipulate the market’s perception of Cease’s value and maximize potential future returns. I’d be cautious as a team trading for him, as BB% don’t really improve with age so him sitting around 20% BB% is not great.
If he had a 20% BB% he wouldn’t be in the majors
@stevie ice
Sorry, typed 2 instead of 1. My point remains.
Dylan Cease career BB% is 10%, still a bit high, but has been even less as a full time SP the past 4 seasons. During that same time span his K% is near 30. He has also offset the walks with stingy H9 and HR9 rates, with the latter number being particularly impressive considering his home ball park in Chicago is a haven for dingers.
Cease is a legitimate power ace whose most impressive feat might be his durability. His 128 starts during that past 4 seasons are unmatched in MLB.
It is not a leak.
Teams have been very transparent about their interest in trading for Cease.
Padres have been very transparent about their highly asking prices.
Baseball media have documented Padres Scouts have been closely following. 8-9 teams that are openly expressing interest un dealing for Cease.
Why would the Padres trade Cease now? I don’t get the logic. They are ready to compete right now. Trade him at the deadline if the wheels come off.
But they might as well go for it. They are unlikely to get better than they are right now at any point in the near future. I think this team can win 90 games with good health. Go Pads!
Padres couldn’t win 90 with Soto, Snell, Hader, etc. They will be 3rd in the division.
They won 93 without any of those players last season, where you been?
And they got bounced in the NLDS. Now they lost Profar, Scott, Kim, Higashoika and more
The Dodgers won 111 games and got bounced in the NLDS and then won 100 and got bounced in the NLDS.
Arraez (torn tendon in thumb), Bogaerts (fractured shoulder), Tatis (Fractured leg), and Machado (elbow surgery) are all healthy to start the season. (2023 injuries in parentheses)
The Padres added Pivetta, Iglesias, Diaz, Joe, Heyward, and the minor league depth filled with former MLB players is the best we have seen in decades,
Profar came to the Padres on a $1 million deal after having a negative WAR in 2023.
Higashioka was a negative WAR player for the Yankees in 2023.
Scott was a Padre for 2 months.
Kim was a below average hitter and overall average player who had a serious injury.
Padres lost Solano and Peralta who were minor league deal signees in April and May.
I know you think it’s cute to be a troll but at least be an educated troll and not a total dunce.
Why can’t we ever get KNOWLEDGEABLE Dodger fans on this forum. Most of ’em we see here are just trolls (with a few notable exceptions). Anyhow …. Go Padres!
Dodgers are gonna have an elite team this year. Let ’em go do Dodger stuff, the Padres will do Padres stuff, and we’ll still beat ’em in more games than they win against the Padres. The playoffs and W.S.? Between two good teams, it depends on player health, maybe hot streaks, as much as anything.
Viva – They lost to the Dodgers, but that series could have gone either way. The Padres might have won a world series last year with one or two more plays against the Dodgers, because they were better than the Yankees. Suggesting they are/were far off isn’t really accurate.
Web – I’m not following your logic here. What does it matter what players like Profar and Higa did before they became Padres? Are you saying they are due to regress and last year was a mirage? Even if it was, the Padres still need to replace their production to have any hope of getting back to the playoffs. Take Pivetta…, he’s crazy undervalued in my opinion and he makes the Padres a lot better, but you could also say he’s just replacing Musgrove in the rotation and doesn’t actually improve the team. That’s the problem I see with the Padres. They haven’t replaced all the lost production from last year. Maybe they do that internally from better play and/or staying healthy, but I’m skeptical they are better than last year’s team right now.
Also, I gotta say that Kim is hardly an average player. The dude has produced 3.5 fWAR annually for the past 3 years, and that’s with missing 1/4 of last year.
mp2891: The only personnel role the Padres haven’t come close to replacing is Scott. Pivetta could exceed Musgove’s contributions since the latter didn’t break 100 IP in 2024 (of course, Pivetta has an injury concern). Iglesias could be a budget stand-in for Kim. LF/DH will be a big dice roll, but a Frankensteined platoon of Ornelas/Heyward and Rosario/Joe could be league-average. C is going to be bad, there’s really no way around that; while I don’t think Diaz is the answer, a lot of Higashioka’s 2024 screams regression.
Are they better than last year? Maybe not. But I think you can squint and see better health from Tatis, Bogaerts, Arraez, Manny’s further recovery from surgery, Darvish missing less time, etc. The BP is starting from a better place even if it doesn’t reach the height of 2024’s class. I think the pitching depth is better than last year, too, which was mediocre besides Waldron’s 9-start run in the first half.
Straight, Did they have Adam all of last year? If not, he could possibly make up for the BP loss. I don’t remember when they got him, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was around the deadline.
Adam, Hoeing, and Scott were all deadline acquisitions. The BP is a little spotty this year with Reynolds and Hoeing out to open the year, but it’s worlds better than 2024 OD with the emergence of Morejon, Estrada, and Jacob. Rodriguez could also be one to watch — two plus pitches (FB + CH) and control is improving.
Sorry, 2024 injuries in parentheses.
If you don’t see the logic, then I can’t help you.
Pivetta provided the same production as Musgrove in terms of WAR and ERA+. From seeing the changes that Pivetta has made this spring working with Niebla, I believe that we will see as large of a jump in production as Cease made coming to the Padres.
Iglesias was a 3.1 WAR player while Kim was a 2.6 WAR player.
Profar had a career year. He never had that good of a season before and won’t have that same kind of season again. The Padres replaced him with two players that if they are kept in a strict platoon will provide roughly the same production as Profar has as an average with the Padres.
People seem to forget that Solano, Peralta, Arraez, Scott, Hoeing, and Adam were all picked up after the season started with the last 3 coming at the deadline.
People also seem to forget that the Padres core players all had injuries that certainly cut their performance and all are healthy now. Just a small bump from each of them far exceeds losing Profar and Higashioka.
Profar is a late bloomer who had a career year and probably never duplicates it.
Good luck in Atlanta.
Kim’s offensive numbers were declining.
Scott.
The Padres had the depth to replace him.
Higashoika had a breakout year and was an above average catcher.
Padres have a great young catcher who hits well when he is not injured (Luis Compensano.
They signed a few veteran backup catchers.
Padres are waiting for generational top young catching prospect Ethan Salas and top young SS prospect Leo Devries to join their team in late 2025 or by mid-season 2026.
The Padres will be fine with this playoffs caliber team.
Preller will always be tinkering with the Padres roster and adding bench and bullpen pieces.
Padres came within 1 win of knocking the ultimate World Series winning Dodgers from the playoffs.
Many think that the Dodgers-Padres playoffs match up was a better series than the Dodgers-Yankees WS.
If they were in different leagues, then it would have been a Dodgers-Padres World Series.
Don – The Padres incentive to trade Cease now is (1) he’s in the last year of his deal and they want to add controllable talent to their roster to extend their window, (2) they’ve gotten pretty good at acquiring young talent that immediately performs, (3) pitching is fragile and any significant injury to Cease will pretty much sink their season and ability to trade him (and possibly the QO return they may be banking on), and (4) they have other holes on their team they might be able to fill by trading Cease.
I’ve said all offseason that a trade with the Orioles makes the most sense for both teams, with the Rays possibly stepping in to help the Orioles create the perfect trade return. In my mind, the Padres would get a return headlined by either Yandy Diaz or Heston Kjerstad on the position player side and Zach Littell on the pitcher side, thereby filling one of their two holes in the field without seeing too much of a dropoff in pitching talent. Cease pitched a 3.31 xERA last year for 4.8 fWAR, while Littell pitched 4.34 xERA last year for 2.3 fWAR. The Padres get worse on the mound, but better in the field. The Padres do not want an all prospect package because they want to compete this year, and the Orioles aren’t trading Basallo or Mayo for Cease (that’d be a huge overpay even in a 1:1 trade). There may be better deals out there than a return headlined by Diaz or Kjerstad plus Littell, but if the Padres are trading Cease, I’d expect something like that as the return. That said, I won’t be surprised if they just keep Cease. Without Cease, the Padres will really struggle in a 3 game series in the playoffs.
@mp2891 All the things you just said were reasons not to trade for Cease in the first place a year ago and Preller did it anyway. Why on Earth would he backtrack on that now? Do you think he didn’t know at the time that Cease wasn’t going to sign any extension?
They’re only going to if someone lets Preller screw em. Further up people were talking about his reported asking price and it’s utterly ridiculous for a #2 rental. He isn’t going anywhere. Alcantara will go before him. Especially since Miami doesn’t seem to ask for much with their trade pieces.
Cease is a top of the Rotation #1 Starter who has been in the Top 4 Voting for Cy Young in both the AL and the NL.
That makes him a #1.
Just posting that your opinion is that he is a # 2 won’t change the fact that MLB experts rate Cease as a #1 starter .
Adn it won’t lower the asking price either.
Iglesias is a better defensive player than Kim. Jose started most of his career @ SS.
Iglesias hit 333 and still has some pop in his bat.
( 100+ points higher than Kim).
Many of the other players who signed elsewhere where bench players and bullpen guys the Padres have the depth to replace
Can we wait until the Padres’ first 3-game losing streak?
I propose Cease and King for Stro and Dom. No, not that Dom. Dominic Dynamite Smith!
Since I know you’re kidding about that offer, I’ll ask this…….do you think the Yanks would offer the Martian and Jones for one of Cease or King? Guessing most Yankee fans would say that’s too much w/the opposite reaction coming from Pads fans. How do you feel about it YBC?
No. $300M+ payroll and all but they took half’ish-measures this offseason by not acquiring a thirdbaseman and a better lefty reliever. I do think they’re trying to exercise future payroll restraint unlike the Dodgers and Mets so selling them off won’t achieve that for one year of Cease.
Yanks are looking at a bridge year
I know you didn’t ask me, but I don’t think they’d give both OFers away in a deal for one arm, Jefe.
Always glad to get your thoughts Gwynning!
Not sure about their OFs since the ones they are offering are not proven @ the MLB level.
And, NYY pitching depth ready to start in majors now has taken a hit.
Padres would not take that low of a deal. We know what Preller has been asking for and it’s much more than that.
Yankees are really not a good fit for Padres.
What Preller wants – What Yankees have
A top 30 overall MLB prospect – The Martian fits that bill
2 SP that are MLB ready – Warren and ??? (Yankees really don’t have another controllable SP other than Schmidt)
A MLB position player – Cabrera? Pereira??
Web – Agree fully. The Yankees don’t have the Farm system to get a player like Cease from a team like the Padres that is looking to win now (unless they trade Jasson Dominguez, and I doubt they will consider doing that). Maybe the Yankees can stay relevant until the Deadline and land a SP with far off prospects from a rebuilding team. Personally, I think the Yankees are one Aaron Judge injury away from a .500 season, and since Judge didn’t get injured last year, the odds favor him seeing significant time on IL this year.
No Clint Frazier and Gleyber, no deal!!!
But the Padres have to take Ellsbury’s contract XD
Eff it, throw in a Jeter gift basket and we got a deal.
e.e
And Aaron Hick’s $10M this season!
I feel like we’re getting shortchanged here… hey, give me my watch back YBC! And my wallet!
And the final year of Aaron Hicks contract too
And yet, here we are…
LFGSD!
We got two days this time
Barely!
It’s like deja vu all over again!
Yes?
Lol 🙂
200Mil? Good luck, Dylan. Those days are coming to an end. Any GM would have to be a complete maniac to give ANY pitcher a long-term deal now. They’re all headed for TJ surgery.
lol.
Fried and Burnes just got that
Don’t Cease your day job… if you even have one, Crikes.
Ok, gang, let’s try to break this down a bit rationally.
Cease was traded from the Pale Hose to the Pads for one Top 100 player in Drew Thorpe (sigh), two Pads top 10 prospects, and a reliever. Drew was no. 85 at the time of the trade, the others didn’t rank in the overall top 100.
The Pads paid this amount for 2 years of Cease. A team trading now will be paying for one year. A trade now should not fetch the same amount/quality of players.
Cease can still fetch the Pads a top 100 prospect and a lower secondary piece, but I’d hold it there. Or maybe 3 non top 100 prospects or a combo with a current MLB player. 2/3 players max depending on quality.
Some of these rumored asks are borderline obscene if true, and you can see why no deal has gone down as of yet.
Am I wrong here?
@Salzilla
If you are wrong about anything in your analysis its the part about what the Pads paid the Chisox for Cease having any bearing on what Preller may negotiate when and if he moves Cease, The market will bear what the market will bear and Preller will try to make the most of it if Cease does get traded. Could be more than the Chisox price, could be less.
@Sal, Right now, I think trading teams won’t fall over backwards for him knowing what the Pads traded for him, though. Otherwise you would have seen it already. Despite injuries all over, no one is desperate just yet. Most teams will see what they have.
Personally I don’t think the Pads should trade him now, anyway because…
1. For the reason above.
2. They’re better with him than without and this team will most definitely contend.
If they’re out by the deadline though all bets are off. And tbh, he may have more value then, because teams will be making that final push to the playoffs.
Desperation only supercedes length when teams can smell championships. Value is weighed differently at that point.
Pretty much nailed it. Think there could be 9 teams if they’re all offering the going rate for a 1 yr rental
Salzilla:
The Padres clearly have no intent to deal Cease or King at this point. However, if they fall out of the race or things start to unravel, they will absolutely sell at the first sign. But that’s not for months from now.
Agreed, Miken.
History tells a different story. The Padres have added at the deadline in each of the last 4 years. Expect that again.
Pretty hard to fall out of the race by the deadline with the team that they have, so speculating on that is moot.
websoulsurfer:
This is a baseball rumors website. Nothing is moot to speculate on . I wouldn’t expect them to fall out of the race. But stranger things have happened. And with the financial situation there, selling off could become a priority.
Miken, when you get something right, it will be a first.
The Padres added $60 million to the payroll. No financial situation except in your imagination.
websoulsurfer:
Tell me the significant players they brought in this off-season. I’m waiting. Yeah there’s no financial issue there. The owners are suing each other and it’s well known their owner was spending the way he did knowing that he was dying. Give me a break and come out of that state of denial.
None of your math matters. Context matters. Like the padres wanting to compete. This being a much tougher pitcher market than last year with many injuries and comparable pitchers getting 200m deals. And Cease coming off a much better season.
The math matters right now, yes it does, otherwise you would have seen a deal already. However like I said above to Sal (the other one), value changes at the Deadline. It’s the only time, I think, the Pads should cash in.
I thought you were the other one. :).
I agree with your take on all this. Unless and until some desperate GM blows the Pads away with a crazy offer now it makes more sense for them to get the most out of Cease while they compete over the next few months. I’m sure the Friars first priority is getting to the postseason.
We’re both the other one to each other. 😉
Get a room you two!
Salzilla, that is not the case at all. You keep missing the most important thing. The Padres don’t want or need to trade Cease.
Because of that, unless some team pays exactly what Preller asked for or maybe more at this point, Cease will stay a Padre.
“Sexytime” – Borat
Good analysis, except your assumption that Cease is the same player today, that the Pads traded for last year.. Cease is a proven (or more proven) TOR starter now, with a strong track record behind him.
Second, as some have mentioned, a players value isn’t a finite number (i.e. WAR, etc..). Market circumstances matter. A player’s value is his proven experience and $cost, plus the perceived need another ball club. Do overpays happen? Yep. Why do underpays appear to happen? It’s not all idiotic GM’s having a bad day. A.J. Preller talks about “matching up” all the time, and that’s not just rote chatter to get reporters off his back. Trades happen when teams match up, need for need, perceived value of the ballplayers to the relative teams involved in the trade, as well as other factors.
Yes, AJP is asking for a huge overpay. He’s probably asking more now that the Padres have a rotation set and are maybe 20 days away from the start of the season, then he might have last November. Even the Pads reported financial situation may have improved between last November and now, making Cease a viable option for the season.
If there’s a trade, it’s because both teams match up (or maybe a 3-team trade, with move moving parts, can make a trade no one sees possible at the moment.) My guess is Cease is with the Padres for the season. However, this is AJ Preller we’re talking about here. NOTHING is ever certain, any day of the year with AJP.
No “borderline” about it. They’re utterly ridiculous! For a #2 rental to boot. Alcantara will go long before Cease.
Well let’s not sell Cease short, dude has become an ace no doubt, but it’s still a 1 year rental. Some if offers are more than Soto’s haul lol!
Cease was a top 5 SP in baseball last season. fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&lg…
He is by every definition a #1.
Salzilla, you are missing the point entirely. The Padres do not want or need to trade Cease. Because of that fact, f any team wants to acquire him in trade now, they will have to pay what the Padres are asking for him, not what anyone thinks is a “fair” trade.
If the Padres were trying to trade Cease you would still be off in your assessment. The Padres got two years of a pitcher coming off a 4.58 ERA season. Niebla fixed the issues Cease had and he rebounded with a 1.11 point drop in his ERA in 2024. That is a 21% better performance than he had in 2023. He is a better pitcher today than the guy the Padres acquired. Cease was a top 5 starting pitcher in MLB in 2024.
IF they were shopping Cease, the Padres could have expected what the Orioles gave up for Burnes or a little more considering the dearth of other starting pitchers available on the trade market. The Orioles gave up a top 50-60 overall prospect that was MLB ready at a premium position. a former top 100 SP prospect coming off a stretch in the majors where he put up a 3.28 ERA, and a 1st round pick.
But the key point here is that the Padres don’t want or need to trade him, so it’s up to the other teams to absolutely blow Preller’s socks off with a trade proposal if they want to pry him away. It will have to be a package of players that would make the Padres better in 2025 and in the future. Hence Preller asking for an MLB ready top 30 overall prospect, 2 SP that are MLB ready, and an MLB player or MLB ready prospect at a position of need.
I haven’t missed that point at all. I’ve made the point that shouldn’t trade him countless times. My point is folks aren’t as desperate now as they would be later so they aren’t paying what the Pads are asking or else it would have happened. Some of these asks are bigger than Soto’s take and that’s ludicrous.
Not just that they shouldn’t. They don’t want to or need to. THAT is the point. Because of that, if another team wants to acquire him in trade, his price is whatever Preller sets as the price. It doesn’t matter what is fair. It doesn’t matter what the math is. It doesn’t matter what precedent is. All that matters is what Preller says it would take to acquire him.
We know what that is at a minimum. A top 30 overall MLB ready prospect, an MLB player at a position of need, and two SP that are MLB ready. It may be more now. There are far less TOR starting pitchers available now than there were at the Winter Meetings and Preller has acquired players that can fill some of the areas of need.
Yes you are wrong@
Trades packages for #1 Cy Young
caliber starters and free agent contracts continue to go up and not down.
Cease is projected to get 200M as a free agent.
What the Orioles paid for Burnes a few years ago is irrelevant in 2025.
The prices for talent keep going up, up, up.
Some MLB Team and/or teams are. a #1 Ace Starter away from making the playoffs and getting a deep run in the playoffs
and punching their ticket to the big dance The 2025 World Series.
These kind of “All In” Decisions are not for the faint of heart.
Bigger Risks= Bigger rewards….
Um just put the dum in dum dum
Speak for yourself!
The 1st major problem with that logic is that Cease was coming off a 4.58 ERA, 97 ERA+ season and a career low 2.2 WAR. The Padres were able to trade for him for far less than they would have if he was coming off a season like 2024 or his 2022 season with the White Sox.
Now, instead of him coming off a below average season for a starter, he is coming off a year where he was 4th in the voting for the Cy Young and a top 5 starter overall in baseball.
The 2nd major problem with that logic is that the Padres have no desire or need to trade Cease. Because of that fact, if a team wants to acquire him in trade, the price for him is literally whatever price that Preller sets. They don’t have to take less just because fans do not think that would be a fair trade. To get the Padres to move Cease, the trade is not going to be fair.
If they had a need and desire to trade Cease and wanted to be fair, the Burnes trade sets a good guideline. An MLB player that had just played his way off the top 100 lists with a 3.26 ERA in the majors, the #55 overall prospect at a premium position, and a 1st round draft pick. No team that will be in contention has a #34 draft pick to trade, so just add another back of the top 100 prospect.
What the Padres have asked for is a Top 30 overall prospect that is MLB ready (Mayer/Shaw/Basallo or Mayo), an MLB player (Abreu), and 2 SP that are MLB ready. That is a little more than Burnes got in trade, but the situation is different. The Brewers both needed to and wanted to trade Burnes.
So back to the 2nd problem. The Padres don’t want or need to trade Cease, so to get him teams will have to “overpay” by giving Preller what he is asking for.
Otherwise, the Padres achieve their primary goal, they keep Cease.
The Padres can contend for a Wild Card with Cease, but not without him. Cease will stay at least until July 1.
Agreed. If the Padres are contending, they will keep their team together. If they start to fall apart, they will absolutely sell. Anyone who debates that is in denial.
Hahaha…
“Anyone who debates that is in denial.”
Padres are loaded with top level talent.
It is very unlikely that they “fall apart”
If by “falling apart” you mean winnimg a Top Wold card seed instead of the highly competitive NL West, then that will not lead to a teardown
No team is bullet proof. Any team can have underperformance and unexpected injuries. It’s not what’s expected of course, but any team can potentially be susceptible this. Teams have years like this all the time. We just don’t know now which teams it will be now.
Do you remember 2023? Did Preller sell at the deadline?
websoulsurfer:
You’ve got to be kidding me. You know their ownership situation has changed quite a bit since then, correct?
You are not very up on how these things work, are you? Plus you ignore what the guys at the top of the team have been saying and doing this offseason too.
I’m up on things. I think you’re just in denial. I see what they’ve been doing this off-season. They barely did anything to improve the team. They didn’t spend a lot of money. Clearly, the way they operate has changed. So I believe if they struggle badly, they will trade off expensive players. Again, I’m not predicting they will struggle. I expect they will have a good year because they are a good team. But if they do struggle, I think they will trade players off.
Then you have TOTALLY missed that the current ownership just increased payroll above the 2nd CBT threshold. They increased CBT payroll by $37 million and opening day 40 man payroll by over $60 million. 2nd largest increase in baseball. Nothing has changed in the way they operate.
You can believe anything you want, but its still wrong.
websoulsurfer:
Yeah, tell me what they did this off-season. Did they act like a team who is on the verge of a championship and went for it? I’m not going to play your game of denial when everyone in the world can see the ownership is an absolute mess.
websoulsurferCancel:
Please tell me what they did this past off-season that makes the markedly better. Tell me what they did in the off-season to increase their payroll. I’m waiting. Don’t give me overachieving Iglesias off the scrapheap or mediocre Pivetta who they got at the last hour. You sound as desperate as the Padres.
Say goodbye Mikie. No reason to talk with the willfully ignorant.
websoulsurfer:
You are arrogant and in denial. There’s no reason to talk to you. You’ve been trying to pick a fight because you’re very defensive about the Padres. You know things are not right, but you don’t want to say it. That’s fine, but don’t blame me.
Mikie, there is no reason to talk to you. You bought the media lies hook, line, and sinker.
The Padres INCREASED payroll $60 million. Only 1 team increased payroll more. There is no financial situation except in your imagination.
That you keep arguing the point shows just how willfully ignorant you are.
websoulsurfer:
Yes, I’m sure a schlub like you knows more than the media. I’m sure you’re involved in the inner workings of the Padres ownership situation. Yeah seems real stable with the former owners widow fighting his brothers. Yeah, there’s no ownership issue. Good Lord.
How much of that $60m payroll increase was from roster additions and not arbitration increases or players like Tatis’ salaries jumping by $9m?
Therealeman – I disagree. Making the playoffs as a wildcard isn’t that hard anymore, and the Padres could have a pretty good offense this year. If they trade Cease for an upgrade at DH or LF, while adding a pitcher that is a solid 3-5 SP, they might be better overall by trading Cease, at least until the playoffs. Pitching really matters in the playoffs, particularly in a 3 game series if they face a team with 2 good starting pitchers.
Disagree.
Padres have made offseason moves and signed 2 New Starters that can slide into the Rotation and help them win and make thecplayoffs this year.
1 Starter who won the Korean version of the Cy Young.
And, they signed Pivett.
Plus, Padres have a handful of young starters knocking at the Rotation door.
Plus, if the Padres trade Cease, then they will get a young starter ready to slide into their Rotation plus a young 1B or Catcher or LF ready to start in the majors in 2025.
mlbtraderumors.com loves Dylan Cease trade rumors. Even when there isn’t any. They still love them.
Much of the MLB media is also reporting renewed interest in Cease so MLBTR is not just “blowing smoke”.
Most of it is recycled AI garbage.
If the Padres trade Cease I don’t see how they don’t get a nice package of prospects. They would be smart and gamble with the injury game. Pitchers have already dropped.
Goose – They don’t want prospects. The Padres want ML ready players and/or upgrades.
They’ll take both
Bill, Yes. The Padres will take an MLB ready, top 30 overall in MLB prospect as a part of the package for Cease. Then add an MLB player at a position of need and two SP that are MLB ready. That is what we know that Preller asked 4 different teams for at the Winter Meetings. Since the Padres don’t want or need to trade Cease, that price has not gone down. It may have gone up since there are no TOR starters on the market now.
Wow, as a daily follower of this website, this is the first time I’ve heard any team is interested in a Cease trade.
I wonder if the cardinals will try to get out of the Arenado contract, haven’t heard anything about it.
Idk, but I’m sure Toronto or Boston will be interested if so, lol.
He’s an oriole
Get your Basallo++ package ready and we’ll get back to ya!
I read that as a-hole at first
OMG! We went at least a full day between BS rumors about other teams being interested in Cease.
OF COURSE THEY ARE. Every team would like to know what it would take to acquire a true ace and workhorse like Cease.
We have known since the Winter Meetings what Preller has been asking for as well. No need to rehash it. If a team has not stepped up and offered the following:
A top 25-30 overall, MLB ready prospect (Mayer, Mayo, Shaw)
2 MLB ready SP prospects (Fitts, Povich, Brown)
An MLB player (Abreu)
then there is no news. Not even a valid rumor.
If Preller asked for Mayer, Fitts, and Abreu for one year of Cease from Boston he would be laughed off the phone that’s ridiculous.
It’s equally ridiculous that fans think the Padres need to make a move off a 93-win season when they’re returning the majority of the roster and a full third of the league is blowing up Preller’s phone trying to acquire Cease. The Padres have no incentive to move Cease when they want to compete this year, so why wouldn’t you set the price sky-high and let the pent-up demand sort itself out?
I think it’s click bait I don’t think Preller wants to trade him and I know Breslow wouldn’t trade that package for 1 year of Cease. Nothing to see here.
Of course, Preller doesn’t want to trade him. The Red Sox asked at the Winter Meetings what it would take. Preller told them. That price has not gone down. It very well may have gone up considering the dearth of TOR starters that teams will even consider trading.
If the Red Sox want Cease, they will pay the price Preller sets because the Padres have no need or desire to trade Cease. It will either be a deal that makes the Padres better immediately or it won’t happen.
Bruin, we already know that he did ask for exactly that. If the Red Sox want a proven #1 starter like Cease, that is what they will pay. Either that or he will stay with the Padres.
He’s definitely staying in SD then. The way it’s going for pitching, he’ll have “forearm stiffness” any day now.
“…despite budget limitations that kept them from” doing nothing they didn’t want to do. They have the 6th largest payroll in baseball. They are over the 2nd CBT threshold.
The Padres have done exactly what they said they would do. They have a team that can compete for a championship, and they have a payroll at the midpoint between 2023 and 2024. It is what they said they would do early in the offseason and its exactly what they have done.
Stop. Just stop with that tired and lame narrative.
lol at lame.
Nah. You just need to harden up and deal with it. It’s not your website, Pads Fan.
Do I hear ten?
Maybe it IS ten. What is “around” nine teams? Like a store saying they’ve been in business “over 12 years”. So…thirteen?
Team’s are coming to AJP to ask for Cease. AJP has long ago stopped offering Cease. They could ask for any ballplayer, and I guarantee AJP would make time for that call. If nothing else, what a team asks for and offers tells Preller what might be possible down the road in the future, maybe even next year. It’s called keeping lines open and scavenging for intel from other teams. Every GM does it.
GM’s can also be pretty sure that what AJP asks for now, won’t change barring unforeseen events (i.e. injury, etc.). So the fact that teams are still calling, means that they are trying to find matchups, i.e. alternative deals acceptable to Preller that will bring them Cease for 2025. They wouldn’t bother calling Preller expecting him to lower his price for Cease.
I’m stating the obvious, but apparently that’s not obvious to all the fans here. But hey, we’re all waiting for baseball to start, and the Padres have lost most of their S.T. games, with a juggled team of NRI’s and prospects to establish the last 4-5 players for the roster. We all do what we do to get buy. 🙂
Go Padres!
9 teams have recently called and shown renwed interest in trading for Cease as Spring Training comes to a close
Teams are sorting out their rosters and taking another look at acquiring Cease.
Padres Scouts have been seem scouting players from those teams.
So something is up.
Interest in Cease is spiking, again.
Not sure anything happens, but the interest is definitely there.
Gonna take C /1B Sam Basallo
AND Either
RHSP Chayce McDermott
OR
LHSP Cade Povich
If Orioles want to compete for and make World Series this year, then a Dylan Cease deal
with Padres gives them their best chance this year.
Orioles have a bunch of Draft picks that can replace those players and more.
Otherwise,
I can see other teams bidding on Cease:
Braves, Cubs, Yankees, Mets, Brewers, Astros, Rangers and more.
Padres will still be competitive for the playoffs.
It will just take time for all their New players to gell as a unit.
By the All Star break, they may get hot and not be as amenable to that kind of trade.
There is risk in holding onto Cease, whether it be because of subpar performance or the injury bug. The Padres got stung with this years ago when they insisted on holding onto Tyson Ross. Different time, different circumstances and different team but just saying….
Just about all these teams have shown interest in cease most of the offseason. No trade has been made because of Prellers very high asking price.
This likely means one of two things. Either these rumors are just bs or teams are using their offers.
Catcher at the moment seems like the padres biggest need. With the addition of Jose and Tirso/sheets having big springs they probably feel pretty good about left and DH atm.
It’s pretty difficult to see a deal that makes this team better this season.
To anyone thinking or believing that the O’s would give up Basallo or Kjerstad for a one year rental are truly way off base. The return would start with Mayo, Beavers and a lower ranked pitching prospect, nothing more.
Hence, no deal to date.
@gwynning. I don’t get why people think trades are always fair or uniform. Also if 9 teams called on cease of course the price is going to be high.
Bobby, you are assuming that the Padres want or need to trade Cease. They don’t.
If the Orioles or any other team wants Cease, they are going to have to pay the high asking price that Preller has set.
Orioles like going 1 and out in the playoffs?
AL East is getting much more competitive.
Don’t look in your rear view mirror and let the Rays,Jays and_or Red Sox steal your playoff spot.
Cubs can trade Assad who can step into their rotation once his “minor” injuries are healed. Then also offer a young hitter.
Coop, the Padres have no desire to trade Cease. The Cubs came to Preller asking what the price was for Cease and he set it. Shaw, Assad, Brown, and Aliendo. They either pay it and get Cease or don’t and he stays a Padre. As a Padres fan I am hoping for the latter because you need two TOR starters in the playoffs and Cease is one of the top 5 or 6 SP in baseball.
I would probably throw Atlanta in there. Ian Anderson hasn’t looked great this spring. Grant Holmes would be better in the bullpen. Then you also don’t know what you’re going to get from Strider on his return.
Braves don’t have the players to make a trade for Cease happen.
This repeating thread…hearing about this guy before last season, at the deadline last summer, now again, will be at the trade deadline this July, then again after 2025. Kind of tired of the drama queen TBH! As an Orioles fan I honestly don’t want him as a rental, and I am happy they didn’t get Crochet. I’d rather have one of Seattle’s young, controllable pitchers.
The Orioles…a notably prospect hugging team especially after movements they have made since 2023… are not going to part with prospects they consider to be untouchable, that would be any of the young position player core who have made the majors plus Basallo. MacDermott and Povich are maybes. Bradfield is highly doubtful.
But we’ll continue to hear about it anyway as long as Cease is hung out there and not moved and as long as the Orioles continue to not move to get an ace. Same ideas will come up in the articles, commenters will come back with the same. Wash, rinse, repeat!
If that is Elias’s attitude, then have fun watching the playoffs on TV, again or being bounced in Round #1 again.
I suppose there is no reason for Preller to not ask, it doesn’t hurt, but the request is ridiculous as many have said. Maybe too he is looking at how the Soto trade went down where he gave up one year of a hitter that did not seem to help them a ton the previous year and at the end of the day netted 2 SPs that maybe got Cy votes and could be considered SP1s with multiple years. Many could say no way you could pull that off but it happened. Just keep dialing the phone and answering it and see what happens. Maybe someone is desperate. Put it out there on eBay with a high Buy it Now or Best Offer.
As far as Basallo being included in a deal, no chance on Earth of that. Think one year of Basallo in time can be better than one year of Cease so the idea is nonsensical. He should be a cornerstone and face of the franchise when Gunnar is either getting or waiting to get 750M to 1B from another team.
If SD actually wanted to trade Cease and I doubt they do, the Os could be a great partner. The player that should be a part of the deal is Dean Kremer as the guy who can slot into the rotation as a replacement. No, he is not as good but its 3 years to 1 and salary relief this calendar year. Dean is far from excellent but capable and slides in as a 4 or 5 for multiple years. The Os have no 1s or 2s but have like 8 guys that are 3 4 or 5s. Mostly 4 or 5s. Guys that are currently healthy that is. Grayson if he was healthy consistently maybe is a 2 but does not seem like an arm that can be relied upon. Bradish can be a 2 but wont be playing for a while. No reason to not swap Dean out because the whole point is the Os have too many back of the rotation guys. And in frustrating form added two in the offseason.
I can imagine Dean not being enough but the 3 years and potential productivity as a low 4s ERA SP compared to a 1 year 3.47 ERA is probably close in value. So after that cant imagine a lot more being added. I would say definitely no on Povich because he shows signs of being very productive right now. 2.60 ERA in last 5 games so he really should be in the rotation and part of the long-term plans.
I think adding a Beavers or another top 10 or 2 from the Os system with Dean feels like a fair trade which both sides could see as a win. But think SD needs to be overpaid so probably not happening. Heston makes sense as a trade chip because the team is constructed to not give him many at bats but think the price is too high. As a chip in an Alcantara McClanahan deal I think it makes sense but probably not happening.
Dean Kremer won’t move the needle for the Padres.
Padres already have multiple young starters competing for #5 rotation spot that are better than Kremer.
No offense to Kremer.
I can’t wait to find out how much more the Padres get for one year of Cease than the Sox for from the Padres for two.
If the Padres end up dealin’ Cease, will they cease dylan till the deadline? Inquiring minds want to know.
Dodgers fan here, but I feel like a Cease trade is a punt. They have plenty of offense, the only big loss is Profar, who was a terrible defender, and isn’t likely to replicate what he did in ‘24. You can make the argument for Kim too, but neither of them are completely irreplaceable. Just don’t see how they can trade their best starting pitcher and expect to stay competitive. Even if they get a “controllable starter” for him, to me that sounds like a back end guy, whereas you’ll need a front line guy to at least try and keep up with what we’re doing at the ravine. The Dodgers and Padres are fun. They really go at it. I always say that the west is best when the Giants and Dodgers are fighting it out. But the last few seasons with SD being in the mix has been good for baseball. Love what SD does in their market and with their revenue stream. (Or lack thereof)
Good post. I agree!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Os offered Kremer and Mayo but Padres probably also want Povich or McDermott which becomes to much for 1 yr
Dylan while an innings eater is not a stopper tho given his penchant for big innings in big games, blowing up when the game turns or the wind blows out.
You might say that Dylan is not the answer to a teams TOR struggles so long as he’s blowing games in the wind.
Dylan’s not the answer my friends, he’s blowing in the wind. No answer, he’s blowing in the wind
@dumpster. Did you finally discover Bob Dylan, been awhile I almost forgot about him. My smoking greens being a high schooler days have past. Now I’m crapping my pants in the wind. Hopefully you have a face mask on. Troll on garth Vader
Whatever happened to cash and a player to be named later? Used to happen in Oakland quite a bit.