Exactly one year ago today, the Orioles and Brewers agreed to the blockbuster trade that sent Corbin Burnes to Baltimore. Since Burnes has now moved on to sign with the Diamondbacks and the O’s didn’t win a playoff game in the star right-hander’s lone season at Camden Yards, debates may rage for years about who “won” the trade, even if an argument can certainly be made that both teams made off well.
From the Orioles’ perspective, there was clear benefit to installing an ace like Burnes atop the team’s rotation. On paper, a frontline pitcher was the final piece needed to put a young, deep, and talented O’s team over the top as a World Series contender, even if things didn’t ultimately work out for Baltimore in October. Giving up Joey Ortiz, DL Hall, and a Competitive Balance Round-A draft pick for one season of Burnes’ services was seen as an acceptable trade package, since the perception was that the Orioles could afford to be a little aggressive, given the extra depth afforded by their very deep farm system.
Fast forward a year, and the Orioles (perhaps frustratingly to the team and their fans) find themselves in roughly the same spot heading into the 2025 season. Still looking for a postseason breakout, the O’s haven’t been sitting on their hands, as Tyler O’Neill, Andrew Kittredge, Gary Sanchez, Tomoyuki Sugano, and Charlie Morton have all been signed as free agent additions, boosting the club’s payroll from roughly $102.5MM in 2024 to a projected $157.3MM in 2025. Such a payroll hike is quite substantial, but O’Neill is the only one of those players signed beyond next season, as the Orioles haven’t yet shown the increased appetite for longer-term spending that many expected under new owner David Rubenstein.
The roster as it stands on February 1 still looks like a strong one, and the Orioles should certainly be considered favorites to at least reach the playoffs for the third consecutive year. Still, if the O’s want to make one more splashy move and aren’t yet willing to break the bank in free agency, that leaves the trade market as GM Mike Elias’ best route for an upgrade. Even if Baltimore’s farm system has now been depleted by trades and several players gradating out of “prospect” status and onto the MLB roster, the Orioles also have another kind of one-year-only surplus that might yet prove beneficial in landing more experienced talent by Opening Day.
Unlike in the NFL, NBA, or NHL, Major League Baseball doesn’t allow its teams to trade draft picks….with one exception. The teams that receive a bonus pick via the two Competitive Balance rounds are allowed to deal that pick away, which has provided an interesting wrinkle to trade discussions since the CB rounds were instituted prior to the 2017 draft. These bonus picks are allotted to teams that fall within the league’s bottom 10 in either market size or revenues, and the Orioles have qualified for an extra CBR pick every year.
As noted earlier, the Orioles’ willingness to include their CBR-A pick (the 34th overall selection in the 2024 draft) was a key component of the Burnes trade, and the Brewers used that pick to select slugging Tennessee first base prospect Blake Burke last July. This offseason saw the Reds trade their CBR-A pick to the Dodgers as part of the Gavin Lux trade, the Athletics included their CBR-A pick as part of the trade package that brought Jeffrey Springs to West Sacramento, and the Diamondbacks sent Slade Cecconi and their CBR-B selection to the Guardians in exchange for Josh Naylor.
Because the teams who qualify for CBR selections switch rounds every year, Baltimore’s extra pick comes in the second Competitive Balance Round in 2025, currently slotted as the 71st overall selection. This means the Orioles will be on the clock six times within the first 94 picks of the 2025 draft, between their regular picks (19th, 59th, 94th) in the first three rounds, their CBR-B pick (71st), and the compensation picks (30th, 31st) that the club received when Burnes and Anthony Santander signed elsewhere. Because the Orioles are a revenue-sharing recipient, and because Burnes and Santander rejected qualifying offers and signed deals worth more than $50MM, the O’s landed those compensatory picks right after the end of the first round.
The double dose of compensation picks might make the O’s more likely than not to move their CBR-B pick, just because it’s fairly uncommon for a team to have two qualified free agents depart in the same offseason. It should be noted that the Orioles’ decision to trade their CBR-A pick for Burnes might’ve been influenced by another bonus pick the team received in that 2024 draft class. The O’s received the 32nd overall pick under the league’s Prospect Promotion Incentive rules, since Gunnar Henderson won the 2023 AL Rookie of the Year Award after being ranked within the top 100 of preseason prospect lists from (at least two of) MLB Pipeline, Baseball America, and ESPN.com.
Even if a CBR-B pick doesn’t carry as much value as the CBR-A selection dealt for Burnes, the Diamondbacks’ Naylor trade is evidence that a CBR-B pick can still bring back some quality talent. Hypothetically, the Orioles could look to replicate the Burnes trade as closely as possible, and include their CBR pick as part of a larger trade package for an ace pitcher. Even if the Orioles might technically have a rotation surplus if all their starters are healthy, it isn’t clear if any of Grayson Rodriguez, Zach Eflin, Morton, or Sugano are necessarily the pitcher you’d want starting the first game of a playoff series.
A mention of Dylan Cease here is unavoidable. The Padres are known to be gauging interest in Cease, who (like Burnes) is a year away from free agency. Baltimore had interest in Cease last winter before the White Sox dealt him to San Diego, and that interest extended into this offseason, as the Orioles reportedly saw a Cease trade as a pivot move in case Burnes signed with a new team. Further extending the comparison to Burnes, the O’s might well be viewing Cease as another one-year rental, with an eye towards recouping another compensatory pick next winter if and when Cease were to leave in free agency.
It would obviously take more than just the CBR-B pick to obtain Cease, but just having a tradable draft selection gives the O’s an interesting chip that most other teams linked to Cease can’t offer. Of the teams publicly known to have interest in Cease, Minnesota is the only other club who has a CBR selection — the Twins select in CBR-A this year, so their possession of the 36th overall pick could even give them a leg up over the Orioles. However, what the Twins don’t have is two extra compensatory picks expanding their overall draft pool, so Minnesota might well be less willing to move its CBR pick than the Orioles.
Regardless of whether the CBR-B pick is traded or not, Baltimore is already going to be getting a heck of a bounty back in the 2025 draft. Selecting six prospects within the top 94 is a terrific way to help restock a thinned-out farm system, but selecting five prospects and trading the 71st overall pick for some immediate help might be the more effective way of managing the Orioles’ long-term and short-term goals.
Dub12533
first !
Gwynning
First… Mute of the day!
NYCityRiddler
@Gwynning
Love it! Ahahahahaha!
Childish Bambinos
Second!
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
Any conversation with Cease to Orioles has to start with Kjerstad and include a young close to or mlb ready arm such as McDermott Patrick Reily or Brandon Young as a starting point.
King Floch
Okay, so no conversation it is then.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
Well considering Cowser Mullins and O Neil already occupy 3 OF positions, none of Cowser, Mullins, O Neil, Kjerstad pitch, and Cease is a better short term option than the aforementioned pitchers given the Orioles cheap bats you’re right they should just stick to their usual do nothing or don’t do enough approach that’s worked well last 3 years
“Hey Orioles you need actual starters” nah we good
Bounced from playoffs
“Hey orioles you need another TOR arm besides Burnes” ight bet Trevor Rodgers come on down!
Bounced from the playoffs
“Hey Orioles you really need to add a TOR arm to replace Burnes” no we don’t!
Bounced from the playoffs
King Floch
Kjerstad isn’t getting traded for a 1 year rental, but I don’t blame you for wanting someone to overpay for Cease. I would too if the roles were reversed.
King Floch
The Orioles acquired arguably the best SP that was traded at the 2024 deadline, but ignoring Eflin to dunk on the Rogers trade helps your bad argument look less bad, so I don’t blame you for that either.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
Yeah orioles fans said the same thing about Ortiz being the 63rd prospect being tossed around in the Burnes deal and norby not being traded to wind up in the Rodgers deal
Orioles fans don’t really seem to have that good of a pulse on what their own team is doing. No offense
King Floch
I have a very good grasp of what the Orioles are doing.
You clearly do not since you seem to believe that Mike Elias trading Kjerstad for a 1 year rental is remotely realistic and were also seemingly unaware of the Eflin trade, which was far more relevant to the discussion than the Rogers trade.
metsin4
They were bounced from the playoffs with the top of the rotation arm. Trading for rentals every year is not the way to go.
King Floch
Burnes and Eflin gave up a combined 2 earned runs in our 2 playoff games last year.
Starting pitching clearly wasn’t the issue.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
“we got eflin!”
I like how you focus on 9 games as an orioles calling him the best SP traded ignoring his entire body of work that makes him a decent 3 good 4
Your homerism isnt an excuse to be this blind lmao
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
Sure you do. Whatever helps you sleep at night knowing the Orioles will be bounced yet again from the playoffs for failing to address the elephant in the room everyone’s been screaming about for 3 years – the rotation. But this year will be different overpaying for Sugano, Morton, and failing to replace Burnes. Totally lmao
“unaware of the eflin trade”
9 starts with the Orioels doesnt outweigh the previous 177 games he’s pitched like a decent 3 or good 4 with Philly and Tampa. No matter how poorly you try to spin the eflin trade as a positive TOR move, its not and never will be.
King Floch
I said “arguably the best” and he was nothing short of excellent after the trade so I don’t really see why you’re so upset by my objectively accurate comment.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
“yay we got a career decent 3 good 4 (177 games pitched) who gave us some good games (9 games)! arguably the best SP traded!”
Bounced from the playoffs.
Watching Eflin fall back to his career norms across an entire season, Sugano potentially struggle transitioning from NPB to MLB as a 35 year old, Morton continue to struggle across a full seasons work load at 41, Rodgers not live up to his trade value should make for an exciting season.
King Floch
You claimed that they did nothing but trade for Trevor Rogers, which was objectively wrong, and so I pointed it out. Simple as. I know you’re embarrassed by the mistake, but there’s no need to be hostile. Just learn from your error and try to be better in the future 🙂
And Orioles starting pitching gave up 2 earned runs in 12 innings in the 2024 playoffs, so I’m not really sure why you keep trying to connect the playoff loss last year to the starting pitching.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
“Even if the Orioles might technically have a rotation surplus if all their starters are healthy, it isn’t clear if any of Grayson Rodriguez, Zach Eflin, Morton, or Sugano are necessarily the pitcher you’d want starting the first game of a playoff series.”
Even the author agrees with me lmao
Blah blah blah
Kjerstad is a bust
King Floch
BBB- Kjerstad has a 116 OPS+ in his first 50+ MLB games. You must have very high standards if that is a “bust” to you.
Mr. Fleet- That’s nice 🙂
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
“Even if the Orioles might technically have a rotation surplus if all their starters are healthy, it isn’t clear if any of Grayson Rodriguez, Zach Eflin, Morton, or Sugano are necessarily the pitcher you’d want starting the first game of a playoff series.”
Truth hurts. Cuts deep. Was pretty obious you don’t have that good of a pulse on your own team. Homerism is a hellvua drug.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
For future reference, don’t quote someones production in small sample sizes
55 innings for Eflin
50 games for Kjerstad
Means very little in such a small sample size.
King Floch
It’s a perfectly fine rotation to get us to the deadline in playoff position, where further additions can be made if needed, plus Bradish should be back in the second half.
I’m sorry that you won’t be getting 6 years of Kjerstad for 1 year of Cease like you desperately want, but throwing a temper tantrum over it isn’t a great look.
beyou02215
Then the Orioles should let Kjerstad play. Either they think he can hit so then they should play him near full time, or if they think he won’t hit, then trade him. This part time stuff with your better prospects really stunts their development. I mean, he’ll be 26 on Opening Day – what are they waiting for?
King Floch
beyou- Kjerstad is going to get plenty of playing time next year between LF/RF/DH. Not quite full time, but probably in the neighborhood of 400 ABs.
He was also getting near full time play last year and looked to be breaking out, then he got drilled in the head by a 97 mph Clay Holmes fastball in July and suffered with lingering concussion issues for most of the rest of the season.
skinsfandfw
Disagree. Neither Ortiz or DL Hall were anywhere near the prospect that Kjerstad is and you could also easily argue that Burnes was a better get than Cease would be.
dsett75
“Start with Kjerstad and a young MLB ready arm as a starting point”, for a rental? They might not even be willing to give up Kjerstad alone. Not saying I wouldn’t tho, because I’m sick of all these prospects rarely turning into anything. If I’m in win now mode, I’d do what I had to in order to finish the team off.
King Floch
“I’m sick of all these prospects rarely turning into anything”
Adley, Gunnar, Westburg, Cowser, Grayson, and Bradish didn’t turn into anything? That’s certainly news to me.
Motor City Beach Bum
Dsett is not wrong. Top prospects don’t always pan out and there are tons of examples if that. Look at Torkelson if you want an example and your own top prospect didn’t have a banner first year either. Prospects can fill voids in the lineup (and Baltimore has done a great job of that) but they are also capital to trade for proven commodities to fill lineup voids. For Baltimore, I would point out that their recent record for developing pitching prospects is not on par with teams like TB and Seattle. Trade from a position of strength to get what you need to win championships. Kjerstad is not established but Cease is and does he not fit in well in Baltimore’s rotation?
metsin4
I think the Orioles prospects have been doing just fine.
Dustyslambchops23
Only way kjerstad is on the table is if Cease signs an extension as part of the trade, very doubtful
Javia135
The funny thing about this article is that the author mentions that the Orioles have an extra Competitive Balance B pick to trade for Cease, but never mentions that Cease comes with his own Competitive Balance A pick. If Cease doesn’t re-sign with the Orioles after this year, they get an extra supplement 1st round pick out of it. Anyone who trades for Cease gets an extra 1st round pick. That value needs to be part of the trade price.
GASoxFan
Javia- you’re incorrect with the assertion “Anyone who trades for Cease gets an extra 1st round pick.”
The *only* teams that can attain that are ones who are revenue sharing recipients who dont breach the CBT.
If a non-revenue sharing team acquires him, and pays the cbt, the only get a 4th round pick.
AND, that assumes he rejects a QO and signs for enough money on another deal. If he blows out an elbow? Goes down with surgery? Well, if he’s generally not going to pitch in ’26 while recovering he’d likely accept the QO and you get NO pick back, and, just pay a guy to sit injured all offseason. Or, he declines the QO, signs a 2 year rehab deal worth less than the minimum to see compensation, and you still get nothing.
You don’t get to price a guaranteed pick at the back of the 1st round into anything
andyg37
The article does say they would get a pick if Cease signs elsewhere
Javia135
Every player is eligible for a Qualifying Offer when they first hit free agency. As long as he has been on the same team all year and never received a QO before.
GASoxFan
Javia, again, you miss the facts that compensation is NOT guaranteed between the 1st and second round.
The only thing true is Cease will be eligible for a QO, *if* hes traded in time and doesnt move again all season. Which if he’s HURT, he accepts and you get nothing, and, may not even make sense to tender a QO. It’s happened before with guys.
If you arent one of those bottom-10 revenue/market teams and are a CBT payor? *BEST* case scenario is a pick just before the 5th round!
There’s a bunch of moving parts that determine whether you get that elusive pick just before the 2nd round.
Heck, even if the Os traded for Cease, and he hurts himself, declines a QO, and signs for under $50m because of it, the team STILL can’t do better than a comp pick before the 3rd round at best!
You’re talking an extremely limited market with everything going just right for anyone to get that pick before round 2.
Roguesaw2
Think you’re looking more like one of Povich/McDermott paired with one of Beavers/Fabian and the tradeable pick. There’s no need for Elias to move Kjerstad here, and i doubt there’s desire. Just as last year with Burnes the chatter was Mayo and Rodriguez! And reality was Ortiz and Hall.
BITA
Kjerstad is too much. But Povich and Beavers isn’t anywhere close to enough.
The article mentions the picks but San Diego wants immediate help not draft picks.
I don’t think the Orioles are a good match with the Padres. They have outfielders to trade but the outfielders aren’t quite ready yet. The Orioles don’t have a long jam of big league talent like the Mets or Cubs have and big league talent is what the Padres want.
niched
Povich would be a better get for the Padres than DL Hall was for the Brewers in the Burnes trade. He started quite a bit for the Os and, while a work in progress, was occasionally brilliant. I doubt the Os want to trade him, especially for a rental.
LernersWallet
That might not be an unreasonable conversation starter if cease still had two years of team control as he did last off-season when he was traded by the White Sox but he only has one now. Orioles aren’t gonna give up both Kjerstad who at this point is also an MLB ready outfielder and an MLB ready pitcher. One or the other? possibly. But not both.
Letsgolos
Kremer, O’Hearn, Mountcastle, Mullins and Pick 71 and another prospect (Young? McDermott?)for Cease and Arraez.
Padres save $1.3MM and fill their LF and DH spots for a year. They get 2 years of Mounty at 1B to replace Arraez and 3 years of Kremer to replace Cease. Their whole offseason in one move.
O’s play Arraez at 1B and lead off, moving Gunnar to 3rd spot. Cease is the rental Ace. Kjerstad is the everyday LF. The DH spot is wide open. It could be Urías or The Sanchez/Rutschman duo they’ll do a lot of. It’ll become Mayo’s spot when he bangs the door down early in the season.
King Floch
This trade would probably make the Orioles worse in 2025 and definitely worse in 2026 since both Cease and Arraez are 1 year rentals.
Simm
Not that I like this trade but they would also have an additional 28m off the books and could replace at least one of them. Along with another first round pick.
BoKnowsBonobos
It makes both the O’s and Pads better in for the ’25 season than either currently is. The O’s can then QO both and be in a position to recieve 2 compensatory picks again. At least one if Cease stays healthy. They may be less willing on Arraez if it looks like he might accept. They may also be OK with that at years end. But this is a proposal that takes the state of and needs of each team into consideration with a lot of moving pieces and makes total sense on paper at least upon first glance. Most trade ideas coming from this message board are so bad and homercentric they’re not even laughable. I think Letsgo did a heck of a job and even included the 1.3 savings. It doesn’t make the O’s worse this year and not making this trade doesn’t put them in a much better position for ’26. If mediocrity is what you want instead of the ace you will absolutely need then sure. The Pads need bodies and this does it.
Letsgolos
Appreciate the kind words.
King Floch
NYCityRiddler tries so hard to be funny but fails so badly that he needs to laugh at his own jokes since no one else does, and he has very thin skin so he blocks you if you point his shortcomings out. Sad!
Simm- That is true and that occurred to me as well, but Kremer and Mountcastle will both cost much less than comparable replacements in free agency, although I guess the hope would be that Mayo would have staked his claim to the 1B job by then so no outside addition would be necessary in that area.
Simm
King- If mayo isn’t going to be ready by then. The O’s should trade him now.
King Floch
He’s still quite young and some guys take longer than others to figure it out, but if Mayo could land us a controllable young SP like Woo in Seattle or Jones in Pittsburgh, I would happily trade him.
NYCityRiddler
101 wins in 23, 91 wins in 24, 81 wins in 25. Elias Is a clown & Rubenstein is a fool… & a cheap one at that. Ahahahahaha!
gorav114
Interesting
Gwynning
All due respect, the returns from the Orange Birds seems light. Trying to pass off “old” junk for a TOR Ace and a batting champ? Rentals or not, the acquisition costs will hurt some.
Letsgolos
Mullins and O’Hearn aren’t old junk. They fit holes SD has right now and are super solid. Kremer is cheap and controllable for 3 years and is close to MLB average, with some upside albeit limited. Mountcastle is solid and controllable for 2 years. On top, SD gets a draft pick and a super solid prospect.
Letsgolos
It would make them better in 2025. They have natural fill ins for Mullins (Kjerstad) and O’Hearn (they’re gonna DH Sanchez/rutsch a lot, plus Mayo). They get upgrades at 1B (offensively at least) with Arraez and at SP with Cease.
Agreed on 2026, though.
Pronklington
Blake Burke. Not Brock Burke
dajuba
baseballtradevalues.com/trades/180917
gorav114
Os aren’t giving up Bradfield for a rental
BITA
Povich being worth 20 million is crazy. Not sure how they came up with that.
Ramen
Kremer, O’hearn (to play outfield) for Cease. Maybe throw in a Tier 5 prospect.
Niekro floater
Getting Cease changes whole outlook on season. There’s your #1 starter, an ace for the playoffs. Do something. Go O’s !
Atloriolesfan
Among the least likely things to happen on the planet is the Os trading one of their 2025 draft picks. They will already have both pick and pool dominance. The pool will break the all time record by 20% and “clumping” picks in one draft is extremely strategic.
They might trade a 2026 CB pick, but not a 2025. I actually think they are targeting another 2025 pick.
But if Cease is traded to MN, the Os may pivot to Lopez (doubtful MN will pay both of them) and ask for Lopez and MN’s 36 pick for the type of player package that they could trade for Cease.
BITA
Win now teams should not be focusing on draft picks.
King Floch
There’s that linear thinking again.
BoKnowsBonobos
This year’s pick is in cbr b, next year will be in cbr a, so much higher and far less likely to be traded.
Steinbrenner2728
Like last year, the Dylan Cease talks begin again!
King Floch
I like the idea of using the CBR-B pick to do some of the lifting in a deal for a rotation upgrade, but roster space is a bit of an issue at this point. Adding another SP would require moving someone out of our currently full MLB pitching staff, which would likely have to be one of Dean Kremer or Albert Suarez (with the remaining guy serving as the long man in the pen).
Kremer could be optioned, I guess, but he has done more than enough at this point in his career to make that seem kind of insulting to him, and a complete waste of an asset, so I think that is unlikely, and I don’t think he will be traded with 3 of the 5 current rotation incumbents slated for free agency after 2025 (Eflin, Sugano, Morton).
So that leaves Suarez, who I believe cannot be optioned, as the likely odd man out. He somewhat quietly had a nice 2024, so he might be a decent piece to include in the return for the other team since he could immediately backfill the rotation spot vacated by the guy getting traded to Baltimore with a competent arm.
gorav114
I feel like with Kremer you know exactly what you are getting too. Eflin, Grod, and Kremer are locked. I assume Morton takes a spot. So it’s between Suarez, Sugano, and Rogers fighting for the fifth spot with Povich and McDermott waiting? Man Burnes in there with Bradish and Wells looking to get back in 2nd half the rotation could have been really good. Still wouldn’t mind Means back too
Gwynning
Reunite the Suarez bros, one way or another? Distinct possibility! Cheers Flocher
niched
The Os aren’t trading for a SP rental again. They’ll be in the same exact position next season, which they don’t want. They missed their shot on Garret Crochet. A veteran under multiple years like Pablo Lopez or Luis Castillo make a lot of sense if they can’t find a match on a younger pitcher.
FOmeOLS
However, Mike is once again going to be choosing outfielders, and his draft choices have not been strong enough to replenish the prospects he has spent on those ridiculous one year deals.
Next year the Orioles will be losing three of their five starters, and if they traded for Cease, they would be losing four of them. That’s a lousy way to run a team.
BoKnowsBonobos
The O’s cbr pick this year is their 5th(71 overall) and the only one that can be traded. They would still have the 94th after that. Leaving them with 5 in the top 100 if they decide to trade the pick. I don’t see how they wouldn’t want to turn that pick into a major league asset for 25
Javia135
If Dylan Cease is traded before the year starts, he comes with his own supplemental 1st round pick. When a player comes with his own 1st round pick in case he leaves, his price goes up.
MacGromit
@Javia135
SD had better act quickly, that comp pick goes away once the season starts.
Thornton Mellon
Honestly I am placing higher value on the stability. Make the trade only if Cease agrees to sign an extension.
Because it is the Orioles, I don’t see them parting with promising players like Kjerstad or Mayo no matter how limited their 2025 playing time would be, or parting with a draft pick that in four years is as likely to turn into Matt Hobgood as it is Gunnar Henderson (lately they’ve evened out on their previous misses in the draft).
The cynic in me says they’ll need all these draftees coming up in 2-3 years when its time for Rutschman, Henderson, Westburg et al to sign big boy contracts, so the Orioles will pivot away from these “greedy traitors” (as surely the spin from “real fans” will be) to the cheaper, younger guys hoping for a repeat.
Anyone have odds on them hitting on all their draft picks?
I’d be fine parting with Kremer, after 3 years the Orioles have failed to unlock enough of Good Kremer to advance him beyond a #5 spot, but another team might find him valuable. If you’re not going to play Kjerstad, may as well trade him too. I would prefer Mountcastle, as we already know what he is.
But I don’t see it happening, neither Cease agreeing to an extension for a trade nor the Orioles parting with anyone. Kjerstad and Mayo will not get enough opportunity, Kremer will be Kremer, and the Orioles will be 82-80.
Javia135
Why do I bother?