The Dodgers signed arguably the two best closers available this winter when they landed both Tanner Scott and Kirby Yates in free agency last month. The pair of moves, along with their move to re-sign Blake Treinen earlier in the winter, bolstered an already excellent late-inning mix that included Michael Kopech, Evan Phillips, and Alex Vesia. The moves raised the question, however, of who Los Angeles planned to lean on for the ninth inning. Manager Dave Roberts mostly put that question to bed when talking with Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio this morning, however. In that conversation, Roberts said that Scott will receive the “brunt” of the club’s save opportunities to start the season.
That Scott would get the nod over Yates isn’t a complete surprise given the southpaw’s $72MM contract and his utterly dominant work over the past two seasons. The lefty has pitched to a 2.04 ERA in 150 innings of work with a 2.53 FIP over the past two seasons, picking up 34 saves in 40 chances along the way. He’s struck out 31.3% of his opponents in that time while walking 10%. Those dominant numbers should be good enough to close for just about any team, and that two-season track record can be argued to give Scott a leg up over Yates in terms of consistency, given that the right-hander pitched to a solid but unspectacular 3.28 ERA with a lackluster 4.63 FIP in 61 appearances for the Braves in 2023.
With that being said, however, it’s fair to note that Yates has more experience in the closer role that Scott does. The soon to be 38-year-old veteran racked up nearly as many saves last year (33) as Scott did over the past two seasons, and led the majors in saves with the Padres back in 2019. While both pitchers have been used outside of the closer role throughout their careers, Yates is more entrenched in the ninth inning than Scott is. After all, Scott was moved out of the closer role in deference to San Diego’s hard-throwing righty Robert Suarez down the stretch just last summer, and was only used in the ninth inning or later for about a third of his total appearances with the Marlins in 2023. Yates also arguably had an even more dominant 2024 campaign than Scott did, as he pitched to an eye-popping 1.17 ERA with a 2.50 FIP and 35.9% strikeout rate for the Rangers last year.
Of course, that’s not to say Yates couldn’t get into some save situations at some point this year. Roberts stopped short of fully anointing Scott as the club’s closer, leaving room for Yates or other experienced late-inning arms like Treinen, Phillips, and Kopech to come in for a save opportunity should a situation call for it. The Dodgers have rarely stayed closely wedded to a full-time closer in the years since Kenley Jansen departed the club during the 2021-22 offseason, with ten or more players recording at least one save for the club in each of the last three seasons. Given that willingness to play matchups late in games rather than rely on a set bullpen hierarchy, it would hardly be a surprise to see the Dodgers continue with that approach to some degree even after investing significant dollars into Scott as their top closing option.
That Pen is lockdown and loaded. Reminds me of the Yankees Pens with Mariano and Wetteland.
Yep. There are four right-handers and two left-handers, with Graterol factoring in at some point. Seeing how Gonsolin and May fit into those plans will be interesting. May could potentially be deadly out of the pen.
Question for other teams: Where does Kenley Jansen wind up? He’s the best remaining closer, right?
Your right, May’s stuff is electric n he could be lights out for an inning or two in relief. His only issue has been health.
@Niekro floater,
It’s weird how May is technically a starter with fewer than 200 career innings, yet he will be a free agent after this season.
Gonsolin figures to start the season in the rotation at #5 until Shohei is ready to throw. Even after Shohei joins the rotation Gonsolin is probably starter #6. Assuming the plan is go with 6 starters, May likely starts the season as #6. Later on, I agree May is a good candidate for the pen except for the fact that absent injuries the Dodgers have a fairly full pen with Scott, Yates, Treinen, Phillips, Kopech, Vesia & Banda. Needless to say, injuries will be factor. But there are 6 or 7 other guys with big league experience a plane ride away.
Jeesh, I forgot about Banda. What a great story he became.
Yeah, Gonsolin is a good gut to have on the staff.
Don’t forget they can carry 13 pitchers plus Ohtani. That’s huge for a team with a six-man rotation: six starters and the usual eight relievers.
With all the excess talent on the roster, I can’t help but think the front office has another trick or two up their sleeve.
If they needed any more pieces there are plenty of tradeable assets: Miller, Wrobleski, Knack, Sheehan, Casparius, Grove, not to mention the probably untouchable Ferris, Frasso, Stone & others. But they don’t need anything right now and it’s a better bet to have all those young arms in OKC ready to come up when and if needed. History tells us they will be at some point.
Yes. And, among position players, Outman. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of those guys aren’t traded for prospects like Bushc and Lux were. Some of the pitchers you listed would make opening-day rotations; I like Grove for someone’s bullpen.
Even money Banda is gone before the end of the season.
Probably so Blue given the pen talent they have amassed, but you have been saying he was on his way out ever since Banda arrived on May 17.
Pretty much, thanks for remembering. He’s this year’s Phil Bickford. I wasn’t wrong about that one.
At least with the current pen you may be out from under your pet peeve of bullpen churn. Let’s hope so.
Guys like Banda and Bickford are easy to root for.
The guy I didn’t get was Joe Kelly; so much adulation for a guy who did so little.
He probably did more harm than good. Just ask Hanley Ramirez.
They actually can’t do that at the start of the season though… Ohtani’s 2-way player status isn’t current anymore, so he will have to get enough PA and innings in to qualify again before that switches.
2 way player status is based on the previous two years
A six man rotation looks probable given that Yamamoto and Ohtani are used to that.
Don’t forget about #22!
So what are you saying, Nicky? You mention twice that Yates has more experience, that Roberts said Scott would get the majority of the saves and end with the Dodgers may still go closer-by-committee. Sooooo…
Yates has more experience with closing while Scott has more dominating peripheral stats which supports Dave Roberts’ decision to use Scott more in the role. Roberts has used other relievers to close so it’s not an automatic that Yates is next in line to close if Scott is unavailable. Roberts will play the best match-ups. Was pretty clear to me.
Thanks, Nicky!!!
According to the article, Roberts said Scott would receive the most opportunities at the start of the season. So, there’s nothing wrong with what Nick wrote; there will be plenty of save opportunities for others.
Thanks, Nicky!
What happened? Did Nick beat you out of a job or something?
You okay, Gunny?
The Death Star is ready to go.
Alderaan should be worried.
All it took was a little ole farmboy used to shootin’ at womp rats to take out the death star.
I still like the leagues chances over any one team.
I wonder if this was the deal to get Scott to sign.
$72M says yes?
Why didn’t someone tell the Dodgers they didn’t need to load up on talent? The Padres are regressing. The D-backs and Giants maxed themselves out and the Rockies are in Colorado.
Arizona has a very formidable team with Burnes. Signing Scott was a great middle finger to San Diego
I like the Diamondbaxcks’ roster quite a bit, and I think the young will continue to improve. They led in runs scored last year, even though Carroll had a down year compared to his rookie season. It’s easy to imagine him having a tremendous season. The offense, starting pitching, and defense are solid. They probably need to tinker a bit more with the bullpen. Yes, formidable.
It probably came down to Yates and Kopech being comfortable pitching in any situation and Scott maybe preferring to know when he’s going to be used.
They will all pitch when called upon, in whatever inning. I think it’s clear Scott and Yates are the late inning leverage arms of choice until proven otherwise. It’s a luxury that Treinen, Kopech, Phillips and Vesia have all closed and are all capable of doing so.
I don’t pretend to know. But I know some guys are more comfortable knowing their role and when they should start mentally preparing to pitch and some guys are ready at a moments notice.
I suppose so.
Sorry, but this article and discussion is silly. 2-3 poor outings by Scott and/or dominant outings by any of Kopech, Treinen, Yates and the closer role changes. Moreover, Dodgers have been (and will continue to be) committed to using their hottest relievers in high leverage situations, regardless of the inning.
I’d be pissed if I was Yates after the year he had.
If he was pissed, I think he simply would have chosen a different team to sign.
Move Dave Roberts to the front office & sign Justin Turner as manager. Skip Shumaker as bench coach.
Surprised that Roberts actually said that. I would have said closer by committee given the number of quality arms. Depending on matchups I can see Roberts also going to Treinen, Yates, Kopech or Phillips or Graterol when healthy.
It really doesn’t matter who gets the last 3 outs. Sometimes the highest leverage is 7th inning coming in to clean up the bases loaded. Or 8th inning versus top of the order. 9th inning can be versus bottom of the order. A good problem to have.
Maybe he just said it because the media will ask him 100 times if he doesn’t… and maybe he has no intention of sticking with 1 guy most of the time at all, haha
NickTheDev: I like the fact that the Dodgers have so many good pitchers. That’s a good way to show the middle finger to Manfred’s quest to change the rules in favor of the offense.
Meanwhile, Tampa Bay will unearth a guy throwing 98 mph from a local rec league and turn him into an elite closer for $1.2 million.
They were both great last year. Coin flip,but Scott is getting paid so I get it.