The Padres are reportedly in agreement with Nick Pivetta on a backloaded four-year, $55MM deal. The CAA client receives a $3MM signing bonus and a $1MM salary for the upcoming season. He’s guaranteed $19MM, $14MM, and $18MM salaries over the following three seasons and can opt out after the contract after the second and third years. While the salary structure helps the Padres navigate short-term payroll constraints, the $13.75MM average annual value counts evenly against the team’s luxury tax calculation. The deal is pending a physical and has not been officially announced by the Padres, who have two opening on their 40-man roster.
Pivetta, who’ll celebrate his 32rd birthday on Friday, was the best unsigned starting pitcher. He had declined a $21.05MM qualifying offer from the Red Sox at the beginning of the offseason. That was a bit of a surprising decision that presumably played a role in holding up his market into Spring Training. He finds a multi-year deal with a much greater overall guarantee than he would have received had he accepted the QO, though he’s taking a notable pay cut for the upcoming season in the process.
The 6’5″ righty debuted with the Phillies in 2017. He struggled for most of his four-year tenure in Philadelphia. A 2020 deadline trade sending him to Boston turned his career around. Pivetta has been a mid-rotation workhorse over the last four years. He ranks 23rd in MLB with 623 innings since the start of the 2021 season. He owns a cumulative 4.33 earned run average and has allowed an ERA between 4.04 and 4.56 in each season.
Pivetta was a fixture in Alex Cora’s rotation over his first two seasons in Boston. He remained in that role early in the ’23 campaign, but the Sox kicked him to the bullpen in the middle of May. Pivetta was sitting on a 6.30 ERA over his first eight starts of the season. He had a fantastic turnaround in a long relief capacity. Pivetta allowed 1.98 earned runs per nine with an exceptional 36.9% strikeout rate over his first 17 relief appearances. Boston gradually stretched him back out to a rotation workload as the season progressed, putting him back in the starting five entering last season.
A flexor strain in his elbow sent him to the injured list in early April. That was remarkably the first non-virus IL stint of his nearly seven-year MLB career. Pivetta returned no worse for wear a month later and stayed heathy from May onwards. He wound up taking the ball 27 times and worked to a 4.14 ERA across 145 2/3 innings.
Pivetta’s run prevention numbers are those of a league average starter. That alone would be a significant boost to a San Diego rotation that needs reliable back-end innings. Pivetta’s strikeout and walk profile has been more intriguing than the bottom line results. He punched out 28.9% of opposing hitters against a modest 6.1% walk rate last season. That was the third season of the past four years in which he has posted a well above-average strikeout rate.
However, the swing-and-miss ability has been somewhat undercut by longstanding issues keeping the ball in the park. Pivetta has allowed a higher than average home run rate in every season of his MLB career. He gives up a lot of hard contact. While Statcast’s park factors grade Fenway Park as one of the sport’s most hitter-friendly venues overall, it has played around neutral for home runs over the past few seasons. Petco Park has been around average for home runs as well, though it broadly plays more favorably for pitchers.
Pivetta slots fourth on Mike Shildt’s rotation depth chart for the moment. He’s behind Dylan Cease, Michael King and Yu Darvish in what had been a very top-heavy rotation. It’s a lot more balanced now, as Pivetta can provide innings that San Diego lost when Joe Musgrove underwent Tommy John surgery last fall. That’d leave one spot up for grabs among the likes of Randy Vásquez, Matt Waldron and potential reliever conversion candidates Bryan Hoeing and Stephen Kolek.
That’d only be the case if there are no other moves before Opening Day. The Padres have been hamstrung all offseason by payroll restrictions. It’s the second straight winter in which the front office has had limited financial leeway. They’ve inked a trio of cheap one-year deals to plug holes at catcher and left field. They signed Elias Díaz for $3.5MM to start behind the plate while bringing in Connor Joe and Jason Heyward for a left field platoon at a combined $2MM cost.
Pivetta won’t make much more than that in year one. The bigger ramifications are from a luxury tax perspective. The Padres snuck below the tax line in 2024. They’ve seemingly preferred to do so again this offseason. The Padres had projected narrowly above this year’s $241MM base threshold. Pivetta pushes them close to the second tax tier. RosterResource calculates their tax number around $258MM. The actual fees are relatively small. They’re taxed at a 20% rate on spending between $241MM and $261MM. They’ll pay a $2.75MM tax on the Pivetta deal and are currently lined up for about $3.4MM in taxes overall.
While ownership may simply be willing to live with that relatively small tax bill, the front office could consider payroll-clearing trades in the coming weeks. Cease, who has a $13.75MM tax number himself for his final arbitration season, has been in trade rumors all offseason. King ($7.75MM) has been the subject of lesser trade chatter, while Robert Suarez and Luis Arraez have also been speculated about. Trading Cease or King would again raise questions about the rotation’s stability, though any such deal would almost certainly include at least one affordable MLB rotation piece in the return package.
The money isn’t the only cost for San Diego. They’ll surrender their second-round pick (#64 overall) in the upcoming draft, as well as $500K from their 2026 bonus pool for international amateurs, because Pivetta had declined the qualifying offer. The Red Sox get a compensation pick in the ’25 draft, which will land 77th overall.
Pivetta winds up being the only free agent starter of this offseason to sign a four-year deal. Michael Wacha, Yusei Kikuchi, Sean Manaea, Nathan Eovaldi and Luis Severino each signed for three years but pulled higher annual values. All but Wacha landed a larger overall guarantee. Severino and Manaea had also declined qualifying offers, while Wacha would have received one had he not re-signed with Kansas City just before QO decisions were due. Pivetta will collect $23MM over the next two seasons. His opt-out decisions will come when there are two years at $32MM and (if he doesn’t take the first out) one year at $18MM remaining.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan was first to report the signing and the salary breakdown. Image courtesy of Imagn.
Good deal for both sides.
Agreed. He could have rolled the dice, accepted the QO, but based on his overall career, he made the right choice. $55MM guaranteed is better than $20MM guaranteed in the injured world of MLB pitchers.
The article says slots forth for Bob Melvin’s padres..//
It’s easy to mess up when ChatGPT writes the article. (It still thinks Tom Brady is playing for the Pats)
That would be a Giant mistake!
And just in the Nick of time
“Nick Pivetta’s deal with the Padres has opt-outs after Year 2 and Year 3. The deal will pay him a $3 million signing bonus and $1 million salary in 2025, $19 million in 2026, $14 million in 2027 and $18 million in 2028.”
-Jeff Passan
Now, that’s what I’m talking about!
Good move AJ and thank you Seidlers!
Expanding the roster a bit.
Maybe a Cease trade happens but you feel more comfortable with the rotation.
I’m happy for you towin
Be patient, tow. Every time with you! Cheers matey
You were impatient weren’t you…
Cease is gone for a cheaper MLB ready and controllable starting pitcher, and other positional prospect. I could see the Mets sending Brett Baty, Kevin Parada and a pitcher (Dom Hamel, Nolan McLean or Blade Tidwell) to the Padres for Cease. Or the Orioles for Dylan Beavers and Patrick Reilly or Brandon Young.
Not guaranteed. The actual cost of exceeding the first level of the lux tax is relatively small. For small market teams playing with the big boys, maybe that’s the best they can do. One year, under, the next year over, etc. so they don’t get cuffed around too badly by a MLB front office who likes to reward the big market teams and punish the small market ones, in every decision they make.
Anyhow, Hosmer will be off the payroll by next season. Some money will free up. What the Padres really need is another Jackson Merrill equivalent to pop up for the next 3-4 seasons, to reduce the payroll pressure. A pitcher for the next guys. Lots of things could break their way. Salas could have a come back year to make him MLB ready, while Campusano reaches something closer to his original projection, providing trade value one way or another. I definitely see the farm system taking a step forward, maybe not to a top level in one year, but maybe mid-tier as the prospects develop.
Static analysis is the problem for most baseball fans. Stuff changes, and Pad fans saw that last year. Projections were God-awful for 2024, and AJP pulled off some unthinkable moves that paid off.
I don’t see Cease as gone. Wouldn’t surprise me, but I think he’s more valuable at the trade deadline. The Pads could use him the first half, then get more for him at the deadline than teams are willing to consider now. Or, keep him and eat the costs if the Padres are flying towards the post season.
No, teams are not going to offer more for Cease at the deadline when he only has 1/3 as much club control remaining as he does now and they don’t receive the right to extend him a QO. Also, selling at the deadline is not how Preller typically chooses to operate. While it’s possible if the team is clearly out of the race, I find it much more likely that they either trade him before opening day or ride out the season with him and then tag him with the QO.
What an odd contract. Pivetta declining the QO is an incredible fumble.
Maybe he really doesn’t like Boston.
Or He wanted years and money. Good deal for him.
I think he established the contrary over his time here
Lucky – Absolutely correct. The guarantee of $55 million for 4 years vs. 1 year for $21 million is a no brainer for a pitcher at 32 years old!!
San Diego’s nightly fog and heavy air will play well for a guy who gives up HRs at a healthy clip. I live 35 mile north of the bark park in San Diego, and the fog rolls in nightly close to half the year. The air is wet and heavy. It will be perfect for Pivetta to have a break out year!
Tough place to pitch
I disagree! With Pivetta’s pitch mix he should thrive there.
Not at all. He just secured $34M more than if he had accepted the QO, meaning he’s very much set for life. If he does very well over the next two years, he can re-enter the market and get an even better deal; anything less than that and he can sit on this, happily.
Had he taken the QO, there’s no telling what his market would have been a year from now. Maybe he never would have seen another $10M total beyond that money. As he likely expected, he turned down the potential for more total at greater risk to secure the bag now.
Red – Injury concerns probably factored into his decision too.
Pivetta, unless he was drastically worse or hurt in 2025, would’ve been able to enter next offseason without the QO and landed something in Wacha range (3yrs/$51M). Even if he failed to get that high, he would’ve likely gotten a Cobb/Verlander type $15M deal which means 2yrs/$36M across two years and only needing 2yrs/$19M to break even which is minimal amounts for a starter.
Nope. As I noted above, he just protected himself from injury and/or significant decline. He’s guaranteed to bank no less than $55MM compared to the $20MM QO and he can still opt out without a QO attached. He’s not a stud pitcher who can delay his fortune by one year. He just locked in his fortune.
It’s a 2 year delay which is the big change. It’ll be interesting to see how Nick Martinez does next year after being the other surprise QO receiver. I think he will end up significantly out earning Pivetta with a 3yr/$45M type deal next year which would put him at 4yr/$65M compared to Pivetta 4yr/$56M over the life of their deals.
He got paid generational money in any event.
How? He got 35 million more dollars guaranteed, I’d take that security. Plus he has the upside of the opt outs if he wants.
Kjerstad, a- prospect & Rogers to padres for Cease; book it!
He just got $55 million. That’s $34 million more than the QO.
Seems like Pivetta made the right decision. He got an incredible deal. $55 million is significantly more than $21 million. Plus he gets opt outs if he pitches really well.
Tells me that Pivetta at age 32 is thinking about the near future. He’s stashing away back of the contract money that’s a guaranteed retirement plan. Twice the money over four years? Why not, if he intends to retire at age 36.
Sweet deal for the Friars
Very nice signing for the pads! Only bad part is if they don’t win it all and watch cease and king leave for a late 4th rounder next year.
Big SP FA class next year, and tons of money off the books for Pads. And Musgrove back. So they can retool
Starting Pitchers
Tyler Anderson (36)
Chris Bassitt (37)
Shane Bieber (31) – $16MM player option with a $4MM buyout
Paul Blackburn (32)
JT Brubaker (32)
Walker Buehler (31)
Griffin Canning (30)
Carlos Carrasco (39)
Dylan Cease (30)
Aaron Civale (31)
Alex Cobb (38)
Nestor Cortes (31)
Zach Eflin (32)
Erick Fedde (33)
Jack Flaherty (30) – can opt out of remaining one year, $10MM
Zac Gallen (30)
Lucas Giolito (30) – $14MM club option (becomes $19MM mutual option with a $1.5MM buyout if he pitches 140 innings in 2025)
Austin Gomber (32)
Jon Gray (34)
Kyle Hendricks (36)
Dakota Hudson (31)
Shota Imanaga (32) – $57MM club option for 2026-28 or $15MM player option for 2026
Merrill Kelly (37)
Clayton Kershaw (38)
Michael King (31)
Zack Littell (30)
Michael Lorenzen (34)
Joey Lucchesi (33)
Seth Lugo (36) – $15MM player option
Kenta Maeda (38)
Tyler Mahle (31)
German Marquez (31)
Nick Martinez (35)
Steven Matz (35)
Dustin May (28)
Miles Mikolas (37)
Wade Miley (39)
Frankie Montas (33) – can opt out of remaining one year and $17MM
Jordan Montgomery (33)
Charlie Morton (42)
Chris Paddack (30)
Freddy Peralta (30) – $8MM club option with no buyout
Martin Perez (35)
Cal Quantrill (31)
Colin Rea (35)
Chris Sale (37) – $18MM club option
Max Scherzer (41)
Michael Soroka (28)
Marcus Stroman (35) – $18MM player option with 140 innings pitched
Ranger Suarez (30)
Tomoyuki Sugano (36)
Framber Valdez (32)
Justin Verlander (43)
Brandon Woodruff (32) – $20MM mutual option with a $10MM buyout
Awesome. People will still find something negative to say, but oh well. Let’s go SD!
Now – Yeah I said Pivetta to Padres just a few days ago, and I was told “No they can’t afford him”. Yeah, right.
This is a great deal for the Padres, with good cash flow implications this year. I wish him the best.
Yeah this is a great deal for San Diego. The past two years he has a 1.12 WHIP & a whopping 11 k’s per 9. Can always count on Preller to get creative with the contracts and the opt outs. This would could be a huge bargain if it ends up being 2/23m and he’s putting up 3+ win seasons.
Can’t wait to see what Niebla can do with this one!
I am curious to see who could be the next prospect to make it.
Padres fans are panicking right now wondering where this money came from
Just kidding they will trade him after this year like the rays Tyler glasnow extension
The deal being backloaded, along with the opt-outs, are going to make Pivetta a difficult player to move.
Impossible*
Not necessarily. He’ll have 3 years 51MM remaining which is exactly what Wacha just got.
So it’s a 2/23 at minimum
Pretty decent value for the padres.
I pushed for 3/$30MM in previous posts, but yeah I’m stoked!
It’ll be 4/$55 because I doubt he opts out.
Bucket – I agree 100%. SD is the perfect spot for Pivetta, because his K-rate is excellent, as is his low bases on balls, and WHIP. Those three stats were ace in 2024 until you see 1.7 HRs per 9 innings, which torched his results. That is the main thing that has held him back from being a solid #2 starter. In SD I would not be surprised to see his HR rate fall to around 1.0 per 9 making his ERA closer to 3.00. That would make Pivetta’s contract a steal for SD. I do not think Pivetta opts out considering the problem he has with HRs. The only park that might be better for him is Seattle.
All offseason Padres fans complaining & whining & crying
I dont wanna hear another word
Trade incoming …maybe King?
Nope. Cease will get traded..King will be easier to re-up!
Neither. In it to win it, gents. We need ’em!
Only gonna cost SD $4 mil for 2025….they wouldn’t have structured it this way if they still “had” To trade Cease…at least not until the deadline if out of it.
100% Mister Padre, RIP Coach Tony
I think if anyone, it’s Suarez or Arraez . They’ll stand fast with this rotation.
Passan wrote about it yesterday for espn. Pivetta to Padres allows a Cease or King trade. Cease more likely. Possibly coincidence, possibly in the know.
Nice pickup! What a weird deal.
Super weird, 2 opt outs and a long guarantee for a guy with an average era in the low 4’s. Pitching in the AL east though, so maybe turns out to be brilliant?
Don’t read too much into that ERA… the infield in Boston was BRUTAL behind him with a series of guys who should have their gloves taken away. Add the monster to that and a season of Yoshida in the corner not helping things either…
I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to see some bounce for him in the future, although nothing in baseball is guaranteed as he is getting older.
They are taking the glove away from one of them. Devers to DH with the signing of Bregman to a $40 million AAV deal.
Wow! Good for Nick. I liked him in Boston, and I kinda felt that Breslow gave him a raw deal with that QO. I’m glad he found a solid contract elsewhere.
How is offering someone $21M giving them a raw deal?
I think , in his shoes, I was taking the QO and banking the $21M
That was for 1 season. ! I am glad he got acceptable contract from SD, which needed decent pitching at a bargain rate. Good, unusual compromise
@westcasey. Petco will help his numbers out, and I’m guessing it was the only offer. They still might be able to trade him, like the giants did soler or it’s a 2/22 deal That softens the blow if they decide to sell off cease and king at the TDL
West – Most projected him at least $45M/3yrs which is a lot better than $21M/1yr.
He just got greedy after the Severino deal.
@fpg. Severino got paid because the a’s needed to spend money. He might’ve had deals earlier and got squeeze out because Cobb got 15.
Giving a player a QO is never a raw deal. No one forced Nick to decline it.
Good for the Sox good for the padres
Great deal for the Sox.
The Red Sox get the 77th pick in the draft for Pivetta signing and replaced him with Walker Buehler. Nice work by Brealow! I hope Pivetta does very well in San Diego. He is a bulldog and will take the ball every 5 days for you.
Dorothy – In the last 20 years Boston has had 4 compensation picks:
Roman Anthony
Kristian Campbell
Michael Kopech
Blaze Jordan.
That is a really good track record…
10 years*
Incredibly good.
*hat tip*
Makes you wonder if now knowing the comp pick is in the bank breslow makes more of a push for bregman as losing the 2nd rounder hurts less.
They just signed Breggy! Hearing 3/$120MM
Wow, Pivetta really ought to fire his agent for this one. Clearly should have accepted the QO.
The pick attached hurt him but still walks away with 55 guaranteed.
Why? He’s turning 32 in a few days and turned down $21M for $55M and has a chance to opt-out after two years. If he doesn’t, he’s getting $34M more. He’s only made $16.6M thus far in his career.
Very unlikely he opts out. He’ll be 34 and need to beat 2/$32m.
He can easily beat 2/32 in today’s market that if he’s performs like a decent #3/4 over the next two years.
In Petco. Even if he pitches well, most will believe it’s due to the park. He got his guarantee . Good for all involved.
That happens all the time. One good year in San Diego and he almost certainly tops the rest of that guarantee.
Petco isn’t the dead ball cavern it used to be, moved the wall plus climate change
Homers are up, sure. Petco’s still absolutely a big pitcher’s park. Its park factors for home runs are still barely above neutral and it is still the second most pitcher-friendly park by Park Factor the last 3 years.
He’s struggled with keeping the ball in the yard his whole career. While Fenway hasn’t been playing as a particularly homer-prone park in recent years, it is an extreme environment for doubles, triples, and run scoring generally. So when Pivetta got tagged at Fenway it’s more likely to be a back breaker with runners on base. The way Petco has been playing for offense, yeah his homer number probably doesn’t meaningfully go down, but they’re also more likely to be solo shots and thus stuff you can survive.
He’ll also probably get to pitch a few times in San Fran and Arizona. San Fran is the least homer-prone park in the league by a decent margin, and Arizona is in the bottom 10. Fewer games at Rogers Centre and Yankee Stadium and more games at Oracle Park and Chase Field is huge for keeping the ball in the yard. The way he’s pitched the last 2 seasons, just that marginal difference could be enough to push his ERA below 4. And that’s before factoring in the fact that the Padres are just one of those teams that always seem to unlock the most you can get out of their pitchers.
I don’t think it’s climate change as much as all the buildings now built around the stadium. Holding the marine layer back.
The old SD climate is now in Santa Cruz. What we have now is central Baja’ clim
A couple of more big wildfires and be there will be a permanent upward vacuum that’ll take any pop-up all the way to Old Town!
Petco is a better litters park for HR than Fenway.
Fenway is a better hitters park overall.
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Yes, that is exactly what I said.
Climate change??
Wsc – He spent time on the IL last year with an injury that usually is a precursor to TJS, so having $55M guaranteed is a much better deal. And if he pitches great, he gets a much bigger deal with no QO attached.
Fever, let’s say he pitches well. Only clubs like the Giants, Mets and Mariners will believe he can do it in their parks as well after how he pitched in the AL East and in Philly. I love the guy as an inning eater but he’s not another Eovaldi. Glad he got his guarantee and hopefully he enjoys living in the best weather all year round there is.
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Which teams again?
Clearly, you fail to realize that securing a deal at 2.5 times the size of the QO is worth the lower AAV. He won’t earn as much IF he had played on the QO and had a very solid or better year next year, but a down year or injury could have meant much lower total money for the rest of his career. This is how a longer-term deal is SUPPOSED to work for non-stars, trading the security of the total deal for a more team-friendly price per year.
Cleary there are two legitimate sides to this argument and the take the guarantee take isn’t the only one.
Some people take the bag some people bet on themselves.
Garciaparra turned down a 4 year $64 million contract with the Red Sox at the end of 2003. At the time it was one of the larger AAV salaries. He got hurt, got traded to the Cubs, then signed a free agent contract with the Dodgers. In the same 4 years ended up only making $32 million. His decision to turn down the Red Sox cost him $32 million and two World Series appearances, lol….bad decision. I would take the $55 million if i am Pivetta!
What are you talking about? He just got $55 million guaranteed. Do we need a remedial math class here? Do you not realize that 55 is more than 21? He just got 162% more money.
RIP Cease
No, not at all.
Cease to Mets or Baltimore
TAKERDBACKS: Boston, to complete the 2021 White Sox’ top SR/BP of Giolito, Hendriks and Crochet. White Sox East.
That would be pretty funny!
Preller would have to lower his previous asking price quite a bit for the Orioles to re-engage on Cease and I don’t see that happening, which is fine with me.
They’d be better off trading Arraez or Suarez anyway.
Pads needed this move. They can’t really slip under the tax without multiple moves now. Unless they suck @ the deadline they should hold. If they’re within a game or 3 they need to sell then but otherwise they should stay the course.
BOL pads!
Yeah, given prellers asking price I doubt he is traded.
Padres starting pitching looks much better with this signing.
Simm, with Pivetta as the #4, this is once again a top 5 or 6 rotation. I don’t think Preller is done.
They’re now $17M over CBT first threshold. And trading Cease to stay under isn’t isn’t possible. I suppose the insistence of a Padres are broke narrative was just smoke, or click bait vape. I agree they’re not done.
Nice pick up change of scenery is always good
Now that pivetta signing with padres, how about all those rumors of cease and/or king being traded because padres cutting payroll?
Someone is probably still getting traded
You may be right looking at the structure of that contact
LMFAO.
Those rumors were all thrown out there by, you know, actual baseball writers…
With the addition of Pivetta the Padres can now trade King/Cease and save 3.75mil-9.75mil for the upcoming season.
Regardless whether they do, or don’t, the contract structure indicates they expect those guys to be gone by 2026.
What the structure indicates is that prior to this signing the Padres had only $137 million in guaranteed contracts and another $25-26 million in arbitration eligible players on the books for 2026.
They are paying $4 million so definitely short cash.
Padres lose 70 mil after this season. No panic. No need to trade either of their top pitchers. We’re good.
Nobody from the actual organization actually said theyre cutting payroll. They were planning to keep it at a certain level. Everything has been based on assumptions.
Effectively a 3 year 34.5mil contracrt for Pivetta as he turned down the 20.5 mil QO, and the Pads lose 2 draft picks. Still looks like a questionable decision on his part.
Splitting hairs, but QO is 21.05 or 21.55 depending on which site you prefer
MLB has the QO at $21.05 million.
Not remotely questionable. He got 2,5 times the total guaranteed rather than a better single year total with complete uncertainty beyond that. Both would have been sensible for him, and there’s nothing weird about taking the much bigger total.
Padres will lose their second-highest selection in the following year’s Draft, as well as $500,000 from its international bonus pool for the upcoming signing period. They were under the CBT in 2024.
The only way this makes any sense based on what they could have done earlier for better pitching is that they have something pretty far along deal wise to move some payroll and get prospects back that offset the loss of a high draft pick and international $. I mean the farm is awful and he wants to make it more difficult to fix? Gotta be something in the works to make this make sense.
Wth!?!?!?!
Good signing, have to believe the Padres are going to hold onto their pitchers now. Got Pivetta cheap achieving a huge goal. Preller to the rescue again.
Pivetta would be the 10th starter on the Dodgers and here SD fans are giddy. Lolzzzzz
padres fans are weird but they’ll take whatever they can get at this point
Kewldude: Or their top starter when the 10th Dodger P goes on the IL.
Cool story except the Padres were using the same number of starting pitchers in the playoffs.
So when the Dodgers dont win the series, and probably have trouble winning the season series against the Padres, what will your excuse be then????.
My answer was you were wrong and the dodgers won the season series.
He would be the #4 starter on the Dodgers behind Snell, Glasnow, and Yamamoto to start the season. #2 by the time Ohtani makes it back. Ohtani won’t pitch until late May at the earliest according to Roberts.
Really good deal for both sides almost no matter what.
No matter who the Padres sign, they can never beat the Dodgers
You look slightly less twinkish when you flex your inflated Blue muscles… on a Padre post no less. I’m telling your mom.
Spoken like a true trashy Padres fan. Cry about it next year in the playoffs- if you make it that far
🙂
Damn dude, you win a Mickey Mouse title and then are gifted one by the better team, the Padres, who happened to lay a 24 inning egg, and you talk smack??? Let me guess, you are only Dodger fan for maybe 3-4 years?????
Vermont
In the morning if you see a school bus no matter where it’s going just get on. The first time through clearly didn’t take hold
Saying the Padres were a better team than the Dodgers is the most laughable homer bs I’ve read and I read Trumps memo on paper straws!!!
Do you think he realizes that the Padres were 8-5 against the Dodgers last season and that the Padres knocked the 111 win Dodgers out of the playoffs in 2022?
But they can never beat the Dodgers? .
Dragonslayer 2.0
LFGSD
Let ’em gloat. Classless Dodger fans are worthless fans. There are some pretty good ones that show up here to actually talk baseball. Ya know, the mature guys, kind of like real MEN? This “Dogs Rule” kid? Let him go finish high school, lol.
Padres have a chore ahead of ’em, because the Dodgers have put together a fantastic squad, ON PAPER. Ya know that ol’ saw but battle plans not surviving first contact with the enemy? Well, the Pads have the right manager and right coaches to build the 2025 team to compete against anyone.
Great move for Padres,especially the salary structure
But for Pivetta…he will make in the first two years the SAME AMOUNT he turned down for a 1 yr qualifying offer at the end of the year.
That’s GOT to sting a bit
Stings, yes.
But OTOH to find $55M guaranteed on Feb. 12 in your one big shot at free agency is a pretty fair escape job from what could have been a bigger wipeout.
Or, if he pitches poorly or gets a major injury, he’ll lean back secure in the knowledge that he grabbed much better money for 2027-2028. That’s the natural tradeoff of passing on an overpriced single year for a medium-term deal.
Maybe there’s more to it (the initial one-paragraph post is still up as I write this), but seems odd that if he opts out after two years he’ll have made barely more than the QO would have given him in one year. The opposite of betting on yourself.
Isn’t that true of every player who signs a multi-year deal?
Pivetta turned down the QO because he wanted the security of a multi-year deal. It may turn out to be dumb, as many suggest, but if he suffers a serious injury, it will quickly reverse to being smart business.
It’s not odd. It’s a sensible setup, as it discourages him from opting out after only two years while still keeping the door open for him to make extra bank if he kicks butt the next two seasons. If not, he plays at least one more year in SD, and if things don’t go so well with him he can play out the whole deal and make very good money.
Hosmer money will come off books after this season probably why it’s back loaded
Doesn’t this mean Dylan Cease is going to be traded.
Nah brah
Likely Suarez or Arraez, I’m guessing….
Not sure id trade from the rotation, since im not neccesarily sold on them even with pivetta. Much rather trade arraez or saurez for depth outfielder or depth rotation.
Rotation and outfield is fine now, plenty of depth
Show those Dodgers you can write up some fake contracts too!! Nice.
Pivetta turns 32 in two days and has never been better than average. I don’t understand the excitement over this signing.
By the way, 623 innings in four years does not make him some kind of workhorse.
Averaging 150+ innings a year for nearly half a decade, can be considered “workhorse” by today’s standard imho.
EL, some of the innings was due to how he was used in Boston. When effective, he went deep in games and saved the arms of others. His inconsistency and HR rate are why he remained available.
2024 – 103 ERA+ 4.14 ERA 4.07 FIP
2023 – 113 ERA+ 4.04 ERA 3.96 FIP
That is better than average.
2024
fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&lg…
2023
fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&lg…
Anything else you care to comment on without knowing the facts first?
Congrats Padres fans!
Hoping that they trade Cease to the Mets. Perhaps Jett Williams and Jonah Tong?
If you want Cease, it starts with Acuna, then tell us the other 2 prospects you’re adding?
Acuna isn’t very good. People are going way too overboard after a few games.
Preller has been asking for a top 25 or so prospect from everyone else that asked about Cease. Acuna is not close. Never was.
Sproat, Megill, Mauricio, and another player was what was the rumored asking price at the Winter Meetings. I see no reason that it would have gone down since then,
Good for Nick and good for the Padres
That’s a lot of money for a garbage pitcher.
And just why are we talking about Jordan Montgomery here?
Nice signing.
not sure about that. Cease and maybe King are leaving after 2025. Pivetta is staying. SD wants to compete this season.
Cease and King are FAs in 2026, definitely leaving
Unless one of them signs an extension. After tax day, that extension counts towards CBT in 2026.
King maybe
Don’t like Padres. But solid move for them. Unless they ditch Cease because of it. It’s also an indicator their budget seems tapped. Which we knew as Connor Joe and Jayson Heyward combine for only about 3.5 million.
Padres lose 70 mil in payroll next year. No need to ditch anybody
@echopark. They could always trade pivetta, and only cost them three million.
And nobody has ever said theyre cash strapped…..
Solid move. Friar rotation good if current group stands
I wonder if his agent was able to secure a $17m loan (repayable over the 2nd-4th years) for Pivetta to get him back to the QO cash amount?
Didn’t think this move was possible. Very nice pickup!!
Ah, u been listening to Jon and Jim and other negativity SD podcasters?
@brew. I’ve been seeing the 3 articles a day since the offseason on this site. Also I’ve been reading fry ohtani’s, and bita’s informative comments. Ok joking aside It definitely wasn’t only Jon and Jim saying that. I guess acee did say the padres wouldn’t be spending this offseason after joe and heyward, unless preller gets creative so I guess he wasn’t wrong. You can’t deny it’s been half right. Definitely have a spending limit this year.
The sky is falling was the narrative buzz in all local SD media, not just Jon and Jim (more Jon than Jim). Everyone wanted Roki or big splashy moves. Kim and Profar were liked so I get the disappointment from fans. But they really don’t have as many holes to fill this year than they did last. And there is a general opinion that smallish market teams like the Padres have no business keeping up with the big boys, so a fire sale just has to always be around the corner.
My credo has always been to judge the team at the end of Spring training because we never really know what AJP will do in advance. I was thinking they might grab Junis or build via trades and he often works late. so this FA signing surprised me a bit. It wouldnt surprise me if AJ does a trade or two in the next 50 days, and not necessarily to lower payroll.
I figure AJP and Padre owners have a very dynamic salary cap. What level of pain they will endure for what purpose, only they know. No way do I see them cashing in the chips to make bean counters happy. A year above the lux tax won’t kill ’em, money’s coming off next season, and AJP could still do creative things before the end of the season to get the team AAV below CBT threshold, like moving Cease or others at the trade deadline. Cease will be worth more at the trade deadline, particularly if he’s performing well, then teams are willing to offer now. So, let him play.
Why would a guy coming off a successful season be worth more at the deadline than right now when he’s lost 2/3 of his remaining club control and his QO eligibility?
good pick up
That’s one way of getting around a payroll crunch lol.
The noise outside doesn’t echo the tunes from inside!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Low aav so that helps
Exceeding the CBT was always in the cards, will now say every writer saying otherwise entire offseason
I’m not sure what that means (maybe I’m too old?), but it’s a very creative contract that solves the issue of needing another decent starter but not really having a ton of money to pay for one right now.
Hope he has a nice year for you fellas!
If you look, its a guy holding his hands up and shrugging
Cease to O’s incoming. O’s love their non-commit starter deals. Flaherty, Burnes, and Cease incoming.
I doubt it unless Preller lowers his previously reported asking price from the Orioles.
I think they’ll hold on to Cease now anyway.
Oh wow. The Padres lose a draft pick too? Gotta love Preller!
But, but, but…623 innings in four years. That qualifies this mediocre pitcher as a “workhorse.”
Can you find 15 SPs who pitched more than 623 in last 4 years?
Or 23?
This is a very good move by Preller. Limited budget in 2025, gets him for extremely cheap I. 2025. The padres have a bunch of money coming off the books next season so they can afford him them. Plus Musgrove will be back.
Good overall money for Pivetta.
Nice starting 4 of
Cease
King
Darvish
Pivetta.
A number of guys who can fight for the 5th spot if they don’t sign another guy.
Can’t imagine an offseason without a Preller trade.
Yeah he could still make a move. Perhaps he moves Suarez still. I don’t see cease being traded.
Suarez for just about anyone position wise is fine at this point. I’d still like a LF, starting pitcher, Catcher or 1b.
Same needs they have had all offseason. They have some depth there now so it’s not a huge need but you can still upgrade each one of those positions.
They might just hold pat now. AJ likes a deep pen. But then again a few trades over the next week wouldn’t shock me either!
If AJP makes ANY trade moves, they’ll probably be shockers, because … Spring-Season-Gunslinger-Preller.
If this is a precursor to moving Cease, I do not abide.
I’m guessing Suarez or Arraez instead of Cease
Looks around for Gwynning…. did he see this and stroked out or something? hope he’s alright! 🙂
Cant a brother watch a sunset in peace? Ha cheers
What is this “watching a sunset” you speak of? Cheers as well.
Yeah the beach was socked in, just got dark quick is all!
We need the rain even more than we need SP depth!
How does this fit the media narrative that the Padres are broke and need to cut payroll? They’ve yet to trade a single player for payroll relief.
Media narrative? You realize they’ve been embroiled in an ownership dispute, right?
Cease/Arraez/King being traded and payroll-cutting rumors have persisted since their offseason began.
They might happen. Trade rumors are hardly a media narrative.
You would think that would happen before players report to camp while other teams are signing starters under $5M to fill out their rotation.
It’s nice to have players that are wanted, that’s the way I’ve seen it YBC.
I would suggest a substantial- if not predominant- amount of rumors we hear are a media driven narrative, Kabong.
Find evidence that the Padres have shopped any SP? It’s all media driven click bait
No you wouldn’t. If no one meets your price, you would wait until the spring training pitcher injury bloodbath gets underway. Hope someone gets forced to pay up. You would be stupid to accept less than what you want prior to ST. Especially after what happened last year.
Only for the control person.
No one from the Org ever said they had to trade players to lower payroll.
SD was 17th in revenue last year..and has a top 10 payroll in ‘25.
Doesn’t sound like a fire sale to me.
@MrPadre….. totally agree. Laughable everyone seems to know the inner workings of the organization when no word has actually come from that organization. Big difference between not wanting to spend, and not being able to. Padres can spend if they want.
YBC – I doubt it was Pivetta who asked to be paid only $4M this year.
Terrible decision on Pivetta’s part declining the QO. Even an average season with the Sox he’d still have easily been able to beat the effective 3/$34m he gets on top of the QO. His opt=out after two years is essentially the same as the QO so he’s giving away a year for free by declining the Sox’s offer.
And if he pitched poorly or got hurt?
He’d lose out on $30+ mil.
I voted for them in the poll!
SD fans are pretty excited over a guy that has a 4.76 career ERA.
If you look at his most two recent years, he has shown a pretty good improvement in both ERA and whip. He has learned to keep less runners on base and is a different pitcher than his early years. Will he have any issues as he gets older? Maybe but the price they paid him is justified.
Yeah, because what he did in 2017 is projectable in 2025. Idjit.
The guy is going to get rocked in the NL. You’re all excited for a guy that has never had an ERA and under 4.00.
A lot of teams can use a #4/5 SP at ERA 4 who can eat 150 innings. The Pads needed that slot filled. But yeah, no illusions he’s Darvish, King or Cease.
Also, it’s Petco, and we have Ruben Niebla…….
Better deal than I thought he’d get.
LOL bob melvin’s rotation…
Lot of dollars for a number 5 starter
A #4, and it’s the going rate
Hey, a bona fide free agent signing. How ’bout that.
Did you really doubt?
@Brew88
Yes. This is a surprise to me. A pleasant one.
I thought they’d tool up the roster via trades rather than FA so I’m a little surprised too. But I have had some confidence that the CBT line wasn’t in ink
Happy for Nick. Always liked him even if he wasn’t the most spectacular pitcher you’ll ever see. He was always a pro even when his role was getting switched around, and was always willing to do what the team needed of him. He had some painful stretches but also had some really really fun ones. Including the unexpected 2021 playoff run when he was a total stud that October. San Diego seems like a good fit for him – also what I predicted the other day in the poll MLBTR posted. Best of luck to him and the Pads this year.
“Pivetta slots fourth on Bob Melvin’s rotation depth chart for the moment”. Wrong team, wrong manager my guy.
Arraez + $14M = ?
Hopefully they’re not making this pivetta signing with the expectation ok competing against the dodgers for their division because it’ll be hopeless for them and a big waste of time and money!
They just need to get into the playoffs, and anything can happen.
Great day for the Pivetta family. Congrats dude!
Good to know that Bob Melvin is still determining the pecking order in the Padre rotation.
Is Cease watch on now?
Better get a lot back if so
“Backloaded” = Making it harder to sell the team
“Backloaded” = Kicking the can down the road.
The deal will be particularly bad if he sucks or is injured.
If he’s great, they’ll lose him.
If he’s great, they got great production for $1M.
Bob Melvin’s rotation? lol no thansk
But the Padres are lowering payroll.
“Slots in fourth for Bob Melvin” Hahaha Franco
Careful, Jimbo…there are guys that are quick to defend the posters of these articles. They will find a way to justify the typo in hopes of endearing themselves to mlbtr…hahahaha
Yeah ! Damn those people who show respect to the writers on a free website !
You go get em, girl !
Bob Melvin ?
Can someone please explain why a guy with a caeer ERA of nearly five is getting a four year contract worth up to 55 mil? This makes no logical sense.
I’ve always liked Pivetta, so I dig this signing. First it shows some smarts from the Padres on the salary structure if they’re having issues this year with cash, though they are kinda stuck with him on the back end should he not opt out as it seems like a tough contract to move.
That said, this works for both. Pivetta gives them a solid mid rotation starter that can really K batters. Pivetta banked on himself and it’s paid off. Those still saying he screwed himself as he left more money on the table aren’t looking big picture. He’s 32 and the future is always murky. Security means a lot to some of these guys and if he likes it there or is injured or ineffective, he doesn’t have to move at all for the next four years. There’s no guarantee he was going to make more on the market next season if he accepted the QO.
They should really hold Cease and everyone else now, at least till the break. See what y’all got, Padres!
Might be nothing but a Red Sox fan friend told me he was a clubhouse cancer.
Lol
If true, that is AJ Preller’s type. Kemp and Pham are the top two…
Thr Padres re-hired Bob Melvin?
lol pads. Hope a WS won win this year
Nuts! Career ERA is close to 5!!!!!
-Kikuchi is a career 4.75 era, under .500, 33 years old, and signed for $21 per.
-Maenea 4.0 era, 33 years old, $25 per
-Eovaldi 4 1 era, 35 years old, $25 per
Pivetta getting average $13.5 per as a 32 year old with a 4.75 era. It’s not horrible……
I’m happy for Nick, but I’m kinda glad he didn’t sign with the Braves at that price. He’d put them over the threshhold, and I don’t think he moves the needle enough. I’d rather the Braves go with their younger guys and hope for the best.
If he stays all 4 years he got 13.75m aav. That’s literally nothing.
That’s odd. You were pretty certain $15m for Verlander was crisis time at the Giants. That extra 1.25 makes it something ?
In Darrugh’s article earlier this afternoon, “Per Dennis Lin of The Athletic, Shildt said that right-hander Stephen Kolek will be stretched out as a starter but fellow righty Bryan Hoeing will stay in a relief role this year.” So naw, AF…Hoeing isn’t pitching for a rotation spot and Bob Melvin manages up the coast, kiddo.
lolPadres
Big spender preller. Who paid for this?
Lonely days are gone
I’ma going home
Preller,just signed Pivetta!
Gimme a contract thru 2028
Ain’t got time before it’s Spring Train ( then your part)
Don’t get it. $55M and give up a draft pick for him when better was available earlier. Don’t understand what it is they are doing.
55 divided by 4 aint bad for a pitcher. Draft picks aren’t that painful unless you are drafting high or have comp picks. They factor in their value before making offers.
Better was presumably not available for so cheap in 2025.
Anyone else notice that there were absolutely no rumors that the Padres were even interested in Pivetta?
Uh huh.
Think it’s also a little amusing (not to Kevin A though) that they told Acee just yesterday they were stretching Kolek for SP role leading him to wax poetic that Kolek would be it for the rotation.
Last night there was an article on Google anticipating this signing. MLBTRs isn’t always the fastest and throwing Melvin in there sounds like a stroke
“The Padres have been hamstrung all offseason by payroll restrictions”
Yet they have added nearly $40 million to the CBT payroll and $44 million to the opening day payroll.
I thought you were better than that Anthony. Why do you keep trotting out that tired narrative even though it has been proven wrong over and over and over?
He pulled a hammy
How much of that $40m they added to the CBT payroll is from guys who were not already on the Padres last season?
They can’t really trade any of their core pieces away without taking a hit in the standings. So I say they should just say “screw it” and pay the luxury tax this year. But preferably don’t go over by more than $40m so as to not have their top draft pick lowered 10 spots in 2026.