Reports back in December suggested that the Orioles had trade interest in Dylan Cease, and MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko wrote today that the O’s and Padres indeed had some level of discussion about the right-hander’s availability. However, it isn’t clear if talks have gone anywhere, as Kubatko reports that San Diego “checked on” some notable Baltimore players who “weren’t on the table,” including All-Star infielder Jordan Westburg and top prospects Coby Mayo and Samuel Basallo. The nature of the trade discussion aren’t known, but presumably one of these three would’ve been the headliner of a trade package, with Cease (and perhaps other players) heading to Baltimore in return.
Padres president of baseball operations A.J. Preller is said to be looking for “significant major-league value” in exchange for Cease, and it is only natural that Preller would aim high when discussing perhaps his top trade chip. Landing Westburg would have filled San Diego’s second base position for years to come, Mayo could’ve become the Padres’ first baseman of the future and very likely a contributor in 2025, and Basallo projects as a keeper at either first base or catcher. San Diego already has one of the sport’s top catching prospects in Ethan Salas, but further adding to the future depth chart would’ve given the Padres an embarrassment of riches at a notoriously difficult position to fill.
For many of these same reasons, the Orioles obviously have no interest in dealing any of this trio. As Kubatko notes, it is particularly unlikely that Baltimore (or perhaps any other team) would trade away premium controllable talent for Cease, who is slated to enter free agency next winter.
It should be noted that the Orioles did swing a big trade for a rental pitcher just over a year ago, when the O’s moved Joey Ortiz, DL Hall, and the 34th overall pick in the 2024 draft (Baltimore’s Competitive Balance Round selection) to the Brewers in exchange for Corbin Burnes. That trade package has been suggested by many as a possible comp for what the Padres might realistically hope to land in a Cease deal, though the fact that the Orioles already depleted their minor league depth for Burnes might make them unlikely to make another splurge for a pitcher with one year of control.
The Twins, Mets, Cubs, and Red Sox are among the teams who have also been linked to Cease’s trade market at various points this winter, though reports have suggested that Minnesota and New York are unable or unwilling to meet the Padres’ demands. The Red Sox already dealt away some noteworthy young talent to obtain Garrett Crochet from the White Sox, and might not want to move even more players to also add Cease.
With several weeks to go before Opening Day, it is certainly still possible any of these teams or the Orioles could re-emerge as possible trade partners, should the Padres lower their asking price. On the flip side, pitching injuries in Spring Training might well bring some new teams into the mix, perhaps with some increased desperation that would make them more willing to cough up a bigger trade package that would some closer to meeting San Diego’s needs.
Since Burnes was entering free agency and ultimately headed to the Diamondbacks, an ace pitcher was widely seen as perhaps the top need on Baltimore’s offseason checklist. While the O’s were known to have at least had some talks about some top free agents or trade targets, the club instead made more moderate pitching adds, signing Tomoyuki Sugano and Charlie Morton to one-year contracts. Sugano and Morton join Grayson Rodriguez, Zach Eflin, and Dean Kremer as the Orioles’ projected starting five, with Albert Suarez working as a swingman in the bullpen, and the likes of Cade Povich, Trevor Rogers, and Chayce McDermott at Triple-A as further depth options.
With Kyle Bradish and Tyler Wells also hoping to make late-season returns from UCL surgeries last season, the Orioles might end up having a surplus of rotation options if everyone is healthy. In theory, it would make sense if the O’s offered one of the younger big league-ready arms as part of a Cease trade, as the Padres could then use that pitcher to take Cease’s spot in their own rotation. But, with Eflin, Morton, and Sugano all free agents next winter, Baltimore surely hopes to dip into its depth to reload what might be a very different-looking rotation in 2026.
You can dream preller but this isn’t. A good look in your post Soto tenure.
Punctuate much ?
Phones a mess right now. Need a new one honestly. Sorry if my grammar offended you.
NP, we love doing decipering work here…
As long as Grandpa didn’t offend you, it’s all good.
I’m trying to decipher “decipering”…
Spell much? It’s deciphering.
It’s very easy to type quickly, get autocorrected and leave the screen before you even have a chance to edit. Happens to me all too often because tbh sometimes you don’t even have the time to check.
If I were the Oriole’s front office upon hearing the ask of those 3 players for 1 year of Cease? Prellar’s ear would still be ringing from how loudly the phone was hung up.
Natural-It didn’t say AJ asked for all 3. Perhaps you misunderstood the article?
Perhaps. But perhaps you did as well
Re-read it. Especially the part right after those three’s names were listed.
If he asked for one, it would be one too many. Cease for a year does not net you any of these 3.
At first I thought that cease for westburg would be a good deal since if the O’s keep him then mayo is blocked
Then I saw for one year of cease??? Good for Baltimore for not doing a desperate move and keeping resources for a better deal
The White Sox couldn’t even get that for 2 years of Cease. Of course, Getz is an awful GM.
Can’t wait to see SD get a better return for 1 year of Cease than the load of crap the Sox got for two.
Thorpe was pretty good until his elbow started acting up. He and Iriarte have a shot of being a decent return.
Kudos to AJ.
Set
The
Bar
High.
For one year of Dylan Cease???
The fact that he even mentioned Westburg’s name as a potential return for 1 year of Cease is freakin’ hilarious. Dude’s out of his damn mind.
Orioles asked, Padres responded. No one is out of their mind here. Clearly the Padres aren’t willing to trade Cease unless blown away because the Padres aren’t undergoing a budget slashing as some believe (mostly media-enhanced), and they plan to compete for a playoff spot. So, Cease for prospects isn’t likely a compatible swap.
Where does it say that the Orioles asked for Cease? The Padres just as well could have been the team reaching out.
Brew- They might not be undergoing a payroll reduction, but they are clearly strapped for cash, which made the idea of trading Cease’s final year of club control for multiple cheaper pieces pretty logical.
I hope they hold onto him though, and after the Diaz, Joe, and Heyward signings, it seems like they are much more likely to now. They are definitely better with him than without him.
I agree with your sentiment. But with the Trevor Rogers and Corbin Burnes blunders, it was worth a shot.
Burnes wasn’t a blunder though?
It became a blunder when they didn’t win a WS, didn’t resign him and then decided to replace him with 41 year old Charlie Morton.
That’s not how it works.
The Orioles traded for an ace and got an ace. Just because they didn’t win the World Series doesn’t make it a “blunder.”
The Burnes trade was never a blunder, bud. If he had underperformed, gotten hurt early on last season or even trash-talked the org on his way to AZ, then you might have a point. But you don’t. He did exactly what he was supposed to as an Oriole and then wanted to play close to home with his family. It’s not complex and was a great trade for both orgs.
The Burnes trade was a good trade. The blunder was not signing him long term or doing another similar trade like one for Cease.
Joey Ortiz will produce more WAR for the Brewers than Burnes did for the O’s. It’s not some complex formula. Ortiz is 26 and pre arbitration still. You would have his prime years of production extremely cheap. Instead you have an early playoff exit, no ace and now Charlie Morton.
Burnes trade was the right call absolutely
Ortiz had nowhere to play in Baltimore. He was heading into his mid-20s and would have been wasting away as a bench player in Baltimore.
It was a good trade for both teams.
The only mistake was replacing Burnes with Morton and Sugano. The Burnes deal worked out great.
King – I totally agree with you. I’ve made the same defense of Preller trades for years but so many (not all) on this site just can’t comprehend that you trade value for value for what you need to increase your chance of achieving a goal. All of that being the case, only 1 team wins the WS!
What are you saying? He objectively had a better 2024 than every single one of your regular infielders.
There is context to this stuff.
When the Orioles traded Ortiz he had no place to play. But then you look at the Astros trading Kyle Tucker. They traded him and now are looking for a lefty handed hitting outfielder that’s silly.
I like the Burnes trade. I don’t like the Orioles keeping Mayo he has no place to play.
I’m sorry, did you just say Joey Ortiz had a better 2024 than Gunnar Henderson?
Because Gunnar Henderson was our regular SS and I’m pretty sure that SS is still considered an infield position.
@BITA, the O’s made Burnes what would have been a franchise-record contract. Burnes took less money to play where he wanted. If the O’s walk on negotiating with Burnes, there’s your blunder; but they are playing with the big boys, in some respects, when it comes to signing players they
Iike.
“Contract offer”
Heck, Westburg got hurt and still had nearly the same WAR as Ortiz.
You’re right he didn’t have a better season than Henderson. Now what about 2nd and 3rd base? It’s a rough argument to convince people you’d rather not have him than have him in 2025.
Bita – keeping Mayo May not be the plan. Just haven’t found the right match to pull the trigger. So, you logic isn’t wrong but application of it may be.
You don’t get a participation medal. Either you sign a guy or you don’t and the Orioles have yet you sign any big time free agents long term since their rebuild. That’s a concern.
Well Mayo has no place to play and nothing to prove at AAA. So why is he still around?
Ortiz doesn’t pitch, so how does that help the O’s pitching staff? They have abundant INF guys so you’re comment if very confusing.
Gunnar, Holliday, and Westburg are our non-1B starting infield.
Ortiz would have been a bench player in Baltimore.
Wrong again, BITA.
Mayo isn’t blocked. He still has to prove he can play a position, any position, at an acceptable MLB level, which he has not done yet.
Because the Orioles think that they have to hold onto both Mountcastle and O’Hearn for some reason. They love blocking the prospects as much as any team.
Burnes was fantastic for them. There weren’t really any aces with multiple years of control available last offseason. You take your shot.
Hank- The Orioles are trying to win a World Series and both Mountcastle and O’Hearn are firmly above average hitters that have clear roles on the roster, while Mayo is an unproven 23 year old with no established position currently. Giving him some more time in AAA to try to learn 1B or RF is a perfectly reasonable choice, especially since we’re also going to be breaking in Holliday this year and handing 2 opening day lineup spots to unproven rookies is a bit risky.
So, because he has no place to play right now, we should trade a brand new Maseratti for the use of a Lamborghini for 1 year? Wow! Just wow.
Just another example of prellers asking price.
It’s fair for people to say it’s a ridiculous asking price but it also shows that preller is only willing to trade him for a very high price.
Will see if someone pays up, the padres keep cease or if preller lowers his asking price.
So far it looks like they will be keeping cease.
Preller would sell his own mother for 5 minutes longer of control. I’m dead sure of it.
The organization is so chaotic today they have to default to him wether he is the right/appropriate party or not.
Looks more like a concession to the fans that the Padres, who’ve had plenty of bad press lately with the ownership/running the team stuff out there, that the team is trying…..Cease has been very vocal that he’s going free agent so for the Rock Star GM to ask a ridiculous return isn’t setting the bar….its showing the league not to even engage until/unless he lands back on planet earth with any trade demand…..
I think Cease would be the perfect addition for the Red Sox. At the price Preller is asking that will have to wait for free agency. Mayer plus Abreu, Fitts, and another pitcher is just too much.
I watched Cease’s interviews at their fan fest and on Hosmer’s show hoping to pick up clues as to what his thinking is about the impending free agency and got nothing. When asked, the only thing he said is that he loves San Diego and is focused on this season.
As for Preller, its clear that he doesn’t want to trade Cease. When teams like the Red Sox, Cubs, and Oriole called he set a price high enough that no team would accept and he has apparently not budged.
It shows Preller has realized he depleted his farm system and is trying to get a sucker to replenish it for him.
Mets- nah he isn’t looking for farm hands he is looking for guys who a have upside to help the team in 2025. This isn’t about increasing the farm ratings.
Preller will fix the farm over the next year or so. He always has.
You do realize he can’t be the same GM that had tons of money to spend. He now has to be creative and can’t just overspend for free agents or huge trade packages. If he doesn’t adapt then the Padres are screwed.
Mets- he adapted pretty well last season and they won the second most games in franchise history.
He isn’t going to not try and compete in 2025. He has already said as much. So any moves that go against that he will not make.
Said he will add a bat or two and a starter or two. He added a couple of bats yesterday, look for a couple of starters soon.
He doesn’t need to sign some mega free agent. They already have top talent on the team. They just need to fill in some depth.
Things don’t work out he can unload at the deadline.
Do you really consider Joe and Hayward bats? Padre fans can act happy about those signings but did they move the needle at all?
Mets- they replace Solano and Peralta. At least as far as war value.
So they provide better depth on the team.
Neither will replace the season Profar had last year. There aren’t any free agents left that will.
They will need tatis, Mann, Xander, Arraez, cronenworth types to replace Profar. Which none of them has a great season last year. So there is reason to believe one or the majority of these guys will have a better season in 2025. The big thing will be health.
They are missing about 3-4 war offensively vs a year ago. I think those players can provide that.
Then you have young guys like Tirso and Eguy who could add some additional value.
If they can add some starting depth I feel like this team can be as good as a year ago.
They had 3 regulars in the starting lineup last year that were picked up off the scrap heap for a mil or less and it turned out great.
The Mets had guys like winker and iglesias make big contributions. Almost every team has to cobble together at bats at a position or two.
These things have a way of figuring themselves out.
Are you high? You saying Tatis Manny and arraez had bad seasons last year?
Sure Manny started slow, as usual, but in no way did he arraez or Tatis have poor seasons
Joe is serving as Donovan Solano and Hayward is serving as David Peralta. Are they considered bats? Yes. Platoon bats or bench bats.
Dama- that’s not what I said.
I said none of them had a great season. That’s a fact.
Tatis had a nice season and playoffs, if you exclude missing 55 games. But if healthy he can go far beyond
A good part of the depleting was from the soto trade. He gave up let’s see gore,abrams,wood,Hassel and Susanna. Would have been happy with any 3 of the 5.Think everyone except Hassel will have long mlb careers.
And suckers always show up after someone gets injured in ST
Replenish it with a premium prospect? If he wanted to replenish a farm system Preller would ask for a quantity package for cease instead of a quality package.
One elite prospect doesn’t replenish a farm. 5-6 good prospects do.
Give us the good
works on commission? no, money down!
No, money down…
Or no money down!
The O’s can prospecthug all they want, it’s their prerogative.
Contingency.
That explains why Cease is still on the Padres.
Preller must have been smoking that top shelf stuff if he ACTUALLY thought he was getting any of those guys for a 1 year rental lol.
He answered a phone and gave his honest answer when asked what Cease would cost. I doubt that he wants to trade Cease (despite what the media is telling you), and teams are finding that out. But any GM will listen to offers.
Again, where does it say that the Orioles called?
1st sentence.
It could have just as well been an email or text.
Come on Os swing a deal. You still have more players than spots. Where you going to put mayo? 1st? Then where you going to put basillo? Can have a rutchman/Basillo catcher DH combo? Os still have plenty of players to offer.
This isn’t how things work. You don’t pay more than you should just because you can
Then explain the Trevor Rogers trade. They paid for years of control instead of talent.
Easy, years of control have cost and the Orioles (wrongly up to this point) thought they could tweak a few things to get his upside back. They did the same thing with Cole Irvin. Lastly, the trade deadline inflates the value of players. I’m not saying to avoid Dylan Cease, I’m saying to not bid against yourself
No one can explain that ridiculous trade.
sadosfan — Tell you what, Cease and Tatis Jr for Westberg. Come on San Diego, you don’t have the budget for expensive players. What are you going to do, go bankrupt? Do you know how pissed Manny will get if he isn’t paid?
(not having a role for rookies and unproven players is not a problem…it’s prudent.)
Orioles dont got the budget either.
Rutschman seemed to really wear down last year so I see a path where Basallo and Adley time share split time probably on 60/40 with both guys also sharing time at DH and possibly 1st especially with Basallo. I think Baltimore sees this and wants to keep Adley fresh. I wouldn’t trade any of those three for Cease if I’m Baltimore certaintly not Westburg. Cease is good but he’s no Burnes and doing a deal headlined by one of those three would be more than the cost for Burnes the superior pitcher.
Way too much for a one year rental. Got burned last year.
No they didn’t.
Westburg, Mayo and Basallo.. how about throwing in some ca$h as well.. Reasonable price for a TOR SP with one year remaining before becoming a FA seems to have risen…
Found Preller’s burner
Why not toss in the deed to Oriole Park while we’re at it?
Only 1 of those 3 would be the headliner in a package. I’d do it when you’re as close as Baltimore is, but even 2 of those particular 3 I wouldn’t. Especially Westburg. He’s already an all-star.
The trade request obviously wasn’t for all 3. One would be the headliner along with 1 or 2 other, lower ranked, prospects.
Westburg is more valuable than Cease on his own. I would be asking for Cease and King for Westburg and the Padres might still have to throw in a kicker with them on one year deals.
That makes no sense.
Cease and King for Westburg, Povich, and Suarez would probably be “fair” but I don’t think either team would do that.
This is the way.
They can always just go into the season with a good team, and top of the rotation.
They can trade Suarez, and be right where they want to be payroll wise.
A year of a top 10 pitcher, and a comp pick is better than taking a sub par package.
More likely to repeat the 2023 season and then all free agents leaving at seasons end. No farm to replenish the team and the team in ownership limbo. They should be looking to trade as many of these free agents to be for realistic returns and give the team some sort of competitive chance for the next few years.
lol. You say this as a fan of a team competing with them for a wild card spot.
As currently constructed, they should be right in the wild card mix.
If the offers aren’t good, then holding out, trying to win, and worse case holding him for a bidding war between the desperate contenders at the deadline is not a bad option. Look what the Os paid for a bad pitcher in Trevor Rogers.
We’ve heard people chastise Preller for blowing up the farm, for him to turn around and rebuild it quickly about 3 or 4 times already in his tenure.
You have no idea if the offers were good. People are hanging up the phone as soon as he gives his ridiculous ask. I don’t want the Padres to be bad. I want them to give the Dodgers as much problems as possible but their current roster construction is not going to do that.
This is mostly the same roster that was the only team to take the dodgers to an elimination game.
Good on the Padres for a mega ask.
Good on the Orioles for not engaging madness.
Still think Wilyer Abreu + Kutter Crawford from Boston gets it done for Cease. It’s a more MLB-ready version of the Burnes return and neither are foundational pieces for the Sox
If they’re not foundational pieces… why would we want them?!? Granted, I’m unimpressed with both players “alone” for Cease to begin with…
Proven big leaguers making pennies with 4+ years of control who fill needs for the Padres I guess is my thought. Maybe throw in another Vazquez/brito-esque depth guy?
I guess I’m of the opinion that it’s hard to get teams’ foundational pieces for a 1year rental not named Juan Soto. Even then, we took a chance on King becoming a foundational piece
If the move was consumated, I’d be ok with it if only because I trust AJ, the Scouting Dept. and the rest of the coaching staff to do right. As is, I don’t like it. Just me!
That actually sounds reasonable.
I was going to comment with this exact trade. Kutter could benefit from a more pitcher friendly place which I think Petco is. Abreu has some good potential and had a good rookie season but the Sox have an OF logjam.
I’m not sure what the Padres really need, but I think the trade benefits both teams.
Abreu just won a gold glove and put up a decent offensive season (114 Ops+, 3.4 bWAR).
Abreu may not be seen as a foundational piece (ie Anthony, Mayer, even Campbell) but he should be a solid major league for years to come. He’s good enough to make a few all star games.
Well we went like 2-3 days this time that’s a little better.
To be fair, this is actually news, not just speculative clickbait.
I think we discussed this potential ask earlier, Flocher… and as we both stipulated previously- perhaps a no deal is a good deal. Keep your youngins if’n y’all got the 40 space… but at some point you might be hugging ’em too much! Cheers fellas
Gwynning- Yeah, I just don’t see a good match here, no matter how hard MLBTR writers try to make something happen.
It’s news about old news about the most clickbaited rumor of the season.. And with recent FA signings, the odds of the Padres listening to trade offers for Cease, especially for prospects, is now fading even more. Clearly the Padres are not desperately broke as everyone insisted, and if anything, seem to be competitive and willing to exceed the CBT a bit.
@king floch. Speculative news from early December not saying they didn’t call. Obviously they moved on. The padres told them no without saying it straight up. The rumors every day come from this.
Prospects so rarely work out that if I’m as close as Baltimore is, I’m coming off one of those. They have Ruschman so the catcher I’d offer as a headliner. Better than sitting on them and going nowhere significant
I’m not 100% opposed to trading Basallo for a starter, but no way in hell does he get traded for a 1 year rental.
But a young, controllable SP like Jared Jones? Yeah, that might work.
Let’s be real. Very few to zero fans of other teams would agree to what Preller has been asking for. Basallo is one of the best prospects in the game.
Never hurts to ask but I don’t even think Preller expected them to trade any of those guys. Though if any it would be Mayo. Teams have to make a decision on prospects if they feel they will reach their ceilings or trade them before their value falls off.
For example the padres traded snelling and lesko last year. If they traded them the year before they would have had more value. This is one of the hardest jobs for a GM.
Why would they trade Jones for a prospect who is a future DH and has proven nothing yet?
Simm- That certainly could be the case.
MCBB- Basallo is one of the top prospects in the game right now. He’s done nothing but excel against much older, much more experienced competition.
It’s almost like MLB teams use actual math to determine the probability of a range of outcomes for each prospect/player.
Hint: top 10 bats at age 20 do not “rarely” work out.
I would offer Kjerstad and Kremer for Cease. SD would most likely say no, and that’s the end it.
The Orioles should say no to that offer.
I’m a Pads fan, and I’d accept that deal.
Kjerstad, Kremer and Brandon Young for cease and Boston Bateman.
Orioles would actually get a high upside 19 year old starting pitcher that they won’t draft.
Again, I’d accept that offer. Seems like a slight overpay by the O’s, but if the Pads added someone like Kolek, it seems about right.
They don’t draft HS pitchers because they don’t want to use talent acquisition capital on them.
They don’t draft pitchers in the first 5 rounds at all.
Kiefer Lord and the traded Jackson Baumeister is all. That’ll have to change at some point or we’ll be buying pitching like Sugano and Morton forever.
Counterpoint, it is more efficient to buy the arms.
I think that used to be true (more efficient to buy arms) but I think we are seeing a shift. Pitching prices have gone through the roof recently and I think teams will need to actually develop their own or pay a premium for them.
I don’t believe a minor league pipeline that doesn’t develop pitching is sustainable over the long term. Elias inherited arms from Duquette and has obviously made some nice deals himself to get some in. But I don’t believe we can avoid that in the draft like we have.
Which I think will be evident next season.
Kittredge, Dominguez, Soto, Sugano, Eflin and Morton will all be free agents. There’s not nearly enough internally to replace all that. Pitching will be a significant expenditure next offseason.
Lmao SD you trippin man
I would cough up Rutschman….but you gotta be kidding me about anything else really
Seriously? Fine, we’ll settle at Rutschman for Cease. This might be a Burger King cuz you’re gettin’ it your way today.
Hahah I am serious…maybe more would need to be involved…but I would do it
More like Lefty your brain in the car.
I’m driving Dylan to Lindbergh Field right meow… red lights be damned!
Why Sorengo?
I would rather trade Rutschman rather than Westy and basically the prospects that the Padres inquired about
Dylan is on Flight 875 direct to Dulles. Please provide adequate transpo… oh and don’t forget to bubblewrap Rutsch for the trip west!
Hahahaha I had no idea you were such a Rutschman fan Gwynning
@gwynning. I’ll give you some chicken fries if the padres accept merrill for trout. My guess is cease will get a burnes return for a deadline trade. Kikuchi got a big return for the jays, and he was a half season rental. I know you this but nothing is uniform it’s not mlb the show, and yes trade simulator is about the same.
You had me at chicken fries, Huddy! Haha
Concur about the TDL “scenario”
Let’s just get there and see what’s up!
Bruh.
It’s a done deal Flocher. You should have gotten out of bed sooner if you didn’t want Lefty trading away the best catcher in the game!
Tigers have enough top end (ML ready) depth to do a deal. I just don’t think Harris would for 1 season of Cease. Doesn’t matter to me as a Tigers fan. I like our pitching depth myself
Before they signed Flaherty it would have made sense. Unless there is a path to trade a pitcher for a good young 3B and sub Cease into the rotation.
Did they think they had blackmail photos on Elias?
Could’ve prevented this by extending Burnes, Orioles.
Dark side, Burnes was never – ever going anywhere but AZ.
They should have realized that before trading for him. They need pitchers that are around for a few years.
@metsin4, I’m sure Burnes et al are so dumb they’d let other GMs know what they’re really thinking as far as future negotiations go so that they can dummy down their ability to earn a competitive salary. But thanks for participating.
Hey news flash. Organizations should do a little research before acquiring a player. They new they had zero shot at resigning him.
Ah, yes, the Orioles could’ve simply forced Burnes to take more money than he got in AZ, where he wanted to be with his family.
I still think a Braves package around Ian Anderson and maybe Smith-Shawver makes a lot of sense for both teams. Think that would put the Braves just over the tax line, which they probably don’t want to do at this point.
Ian Anderson has almost no value at this point. He’s a third/fourth piece in acquiring anything.
Though he still tours and can leap into the air and catch the flute behind his back like nobody’s business
Well, he’s Too Old to Rock ‘n’ Roll & Too Young to Die!
“My team’s fringe spare parts for your TOR arm.”
The lack of situational awareness in these comments is staggering.
Good lord, some of you are completely missing the fact that AJ didn’t ask for all three for Cease..He just checked in on each of those three players.
Ron — …or, maybe you missed the point. None of those players will the Orioles trade.
Each of those players is greater than the Burnes deal.
It’s laughable to expect any of those players.
AJ just answered the phone and was asked who it might take
Even if the Friars added an additional player or players. That’s a big overpay for a rental.
Quite a stretch to claim Baltimore “depleted” their minor league depth for Burnes. They’re quite well stocked with talent
AJ Preller is out of his mind if he’s thinking the Orioles would give up any of those three for one year of Dylan Cease. They got one year of Corbin Burnes for less than that no offense to Ortiz and Hall. You might be able to get Dylan Beavers or Jud Fabian and Chance McDermott for one year of Cease but unless Cease agrees to more than one year you are not gonna get Mayo or Kjerstad let alone Basallo and Westburg.
No one is out of their mind. AJP picked up the phone and was asked what Cease would cost. The Pads are competing for a playoff spot, last thing they want to do is deplete their rotation of an ace unless they’re completely blown away. Orioles probably need a more realistic trading partner.
Ethan Salas is overrated
Lol
He hit .206 last year….Padres mismanaged him and over-promoted him. Hopefully his psyche isn’t permanently damaged.
Lol
more LOL
Very overrated. Shouldn’t even be sniffing top 100 prospect list.
Lol, y’all are comedians again! I like it.
Bro, he’s 18. Cracking the top 100 is a testament in itself to his unrefined tools.
Or that prospects shouldn’t really be ranked until they do something especially young players out of high school or international signings. A .599 OPS in the low minors is not good even for an 18 year old. He is exactly the same as Cartaya. Heading for a DFA and release.
Lol
I’m ecstatic that you don’t like him, metsin4000. That means he’s going to be great! We’ll take that.
Wonder if Preller would take Acuna, Butto and Tidwell package if he can’t pry away a top prospect?
Given his asks from other teams…I’d say zero chance.
Rumors be asked for sproat, Jett and acuna from the Mets.
This may sound crazy to you but it’s no crazier than his asks from other teams.
Have the Dodgers been suggested yet?
Yeah, FTD.
Trade conversations with Orioles seem to be:
Other team: we have the cost-controlled ace you want. All it’ll cost is one of your top three prospects…and another of your top 7…and of your top 10.
O’s: Interesting. Counterproposal: Our 6th best prospect, a pitcher who hasn’t done anything yet, and a sandwich pick.
O’s fans: That’s ludicrous! Each of those pieces are more valuable than their so-called ace will be! I wouldn’t give them an actual sandwich for this bum!
Later, O’s fans: Hey, why is Kjerstad still here if we’re never gonna use him?
Bingo bango bongo, hyrax!
hyrax — Huh? What Orioles fan here is saying Bradford Jr, Beavers, McDermott, Povich, or Fabian AREN’T available, or, are to valuable to trade. (Those #4-10 prospects)
All I’ve been reading is Orioles fans having a pretty good grasp of value.
Non-Orioles fans keep saying Kjersted, Mayo, Basallo…and every piece of news and has indicated they are not being talked about within the Organization for Cease.
Did you read the article?
O’s- you called, we answered, you asked, we said what it takes, you winced at the ask, we kindly said call us back if you change your mind, you said goodbye and so did we. We’re all friends here.
Mayo for cease isn’t that far off surplus value wise. Mayo probably has a bit more, but this is the only cheap, top of the rotation arm on the market. You have to expect Preller to win on surplus value.
Mayo has no where to play.
vpsd — Colton Cowser last year “didn’t have a place to play” until he hit his way into the line-up, and finished runner-up ROY.
Other than Jackson Holiday, the Orioles have slow played/not handed a job to their prospects. They earned their roles.
Mayo will have to earn it, like he should, and then he’ll have a job.
Letting top prospects just have a full time job hasn’t worked out that well; from Jackson Holiday to Spencer Torkelson.
Worked ok for Jackson Merrill though…?!? Perhaps there is no “set” way to go about this stuff! I’ll kindly repeat this here, but all prospects are suspects until proven otherwise.
The Cubs have put themselves in a tough position by trading a premium prospect for a rental in Tucker and to do that again for another rental like Cease would be reckless. if Hoyer is sacrificing the future just to save his job, he should be fired.
That’s the thing about being pot committed. When you’ve already paid the price on Tucker, and he’s no guarantee to return, you pretty much have to go for it.
Give up, Preller. It’s February 8. The widow of Peter Seidler interfered with the Roki Sasaki and Jurickson Profar negotiations. She’s trying to extort the team.
Sooo… just give up? Sage advice from the resident Hall of Shamer!
Clearly the teams made a mistake by not asking the know it all fans to arrange the trade with all the dumb fan trade ideas
Pods won’t trade Cease absent a huge haul. That would accelerate decline in attendance expected now in 2026 as Seidlers convert team to the Pirates of the West
Towinagain, that you buddy?!? Get tired of talking to nobody on your blocked account?!?!
I feel like Dean Kremer should be part of offers for high-end SPs. Not 1 for 1 necessarily but he can have value. The Os have like 8 #4 or #5 SPs. Dean is cheap, which SD needs and he can step onto a team who wants to contend and deliver something for multiple years. I mean I think SD should not want to trade Cease but they are talking. Its about money. So Dean gives them financial relief and years and can make the roster. Not like you can trade an ace for another ace with 3 years of control. SD needs a replacement SP and better to have an MLB ready guy if you are trying to win. With a new SP, Os need him less. They can always sign a 1 year #4 or #5 next year if there is a hole which seems to be the preference over extending or signing front of the rotation starters.
Mountcastle can be a similar MLB ready chip with 2 years of control where the Os have a lot of other options and guys they can try at that position with Kjerstad Mayo Basallo.
Think those two and 1 or 2 non top 100 prosepects is a nice pull for SD. I would even see if there is appeal for SD in major salary relief by including Arraez. Think he can be flipped between 1st 2nd on a Jackson off-day and DH. Maybe Mayo in the discussion for the two. He does not have a spot and his first look was not impressive. I get that many start rough but many prospects dont realize the potential and guys like Westburg Kjerstad clearly can play at the MLB level.
More likely would be something like Mountcastle, McDermott and a prospect like Austin Overn and Padres throw in a prospect like Lamar King.
For a 1 year rental of a Boros client? LOL
Tigers should offer Tork and Mize, steep price but would make the Tigers a tough opponent for everyone in baseball with Skubs, Flaherty, Cease, Olson, and Cobb etc. to face every night! Old timers say that you win with pitching and defense, and with their bullpen and this rotation, plus the defense they possess, they should be amazing. If the offense picks up a little bit, they could be hard to beat.
It’s pretty clear that San Diego is intent on moving Cease, and I doubt Preller will wait until the deadline since the return will be lower than what he’ll get right now. I expect something to happen here in the next week… Orioles, Mets, and Cubs are likely matches.
Not unless he backs off his asking price.
Seems pretty clear me Preller isn’t going to trade Cease unless he finds a ‘can’t say no’ offer from a team.
That Preller asked for those prospects from the Orioles makes sense given that we already knew that he asked for Mayers from the Red Sox and Shaw from the Cubs. Judging from the level of prospects that Preller has asked each team for, its evident that he has no intention of trading Cease.
Personally, I would say that’s a bad decision on his part. They almost certainly won’t win that division and there are lots of NL teams better set up for success this year. I guess they could get lucky and sneak into a wild card spot, but the odds are long and watching Cease and King leave after the season, in addition to an expensive and aging roster, is gonna put them in purgatory for awhile.
They rolled the dice last year and it almost worked… I think if the Pads had won that Dodger series they would have ended up as the 2024 world champs. Oh well.