Luis Castillo’s name has swirled in trade rumors for much of the offseason, as since Castillo is far and away the priciest member of the Mariners’ rotation, Seattle has at least been more open to discussing Castillo than any of its other starting pitchers. However, Adam Jude of the Seattle Times writes that a Castillo trade “is less likely now than it was early in the winter,” even if the Mariners will continue to explore other possibilities to build on what might be a mostly set roster.
Infield help was the Mariners’ clearest need heading into the winter, leading to natural speculation that the M’s would move Castillo or another starting pitcher for a clear-cut everyday player that could slide right as an everyday option at first, second, or third base. This said, Seattle president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto has long said that the M’s would trade from their rotation only as a last resort, so it might not be any surprise that the club is now moving away from Castillo after addressing its infield needs in free agency.
Jorge Polanco and Donovan Solano were both recently signed to one-year deals, adding a pair of experienced players to the infield mix for $11.25MM in guaranteed money. These expenditures have absorbed much of the limited budget Dipoto had to work with, as Jude reiterates that the Mariners had roughly $15MM in available payroll space this winter. Between this lack of spending ability and nearly league-wide demand for only MLB-caliber talent (rather than prospects) on the trade market, Dipoto’s hands may have been somewhat tied, and he opted to instead run it back with Seattle’s superb rotation rather than take the risk of diminishing the rotation for a hitting upgrade.
On paper, trading Castillo would’ve helped the Mariners both add a bat and cut some payroll, since the right-hander is owed $68.25MM in guaranteed money through the 2027 season. (A vesting option for the 2028 season could add another $25MM in salary if Castillo remains healthy and tosses at least 180 innings in 2027.) That said, Castillo’s salary was also no small consideration for other teams — in trade talks with the Red Sox, Boston was reportedly only willing to move Triston Casas for Castillo if Masataka Yoshida was also sent along with Casas as salary offset.
Several of the teams cited by MLBTR’s Nick Deeds in late December as potential Castillo trade fits have since acquired other pitchers, further narrowing Seattle’s list of options. Opening Day is still eight weeks’ away, of course, so there’s plenty of time for the Mariners to pivot back to a Castillo deal if circumstances (i.e. injuries, a drop in asking prices) should change either for the M’s or a mystery team.
Perhaps as an example, the Twins hadn’t been considered as a potential landing spot for Castillo, but The Athletic’s Dan Hayes hears from a Twins source that reports that Minnesota did indeed check in with the Mariners about the veteran righty. It doesn’t appear to be any more than a due diligence exploration, however, as Hayes suggests that Castillo’s contract is too pricey for the Twins’ liking.
Minnesota is also working within payroll restrictions, as Hayes writes that the Twins may have around $5MM in additional spending space for 2025. Multiple reports suggest that the Twins would first have to trade some contracts off the books in order to make space for new acquisitions, which is why Christian Vazquez and Chris Paddack have been oft-mentioned trade candidates.
It was just over a year ago that the Twins and Mariners combined on a prominent trade that sent Polanco to Seattle in the first place, so the two teams have a recent working relationship. Still, the two teams are somewhat in the same boat of trying to both fix some clear needs on their rosters while also spending as little as possible, leaving little common ground on the trade front. Minnesota has been more recently linked to Dylan Cease’s market, and while prying Cease away from the Padres won’t be easy, his $13.75MM salary for just the 2025 season (Cease is a free agent next winter) is a better financial fit for the Twins’ books.
tom brunanskys black sock
When you put pizza on a bagel, you can have pizza anytime.
davemlaw
I love pizza
Let’s not forget, Castillo has a full no trade until next year. He probably doesn’t want to leave Seattle just yet, no state income tax in WA.
Enrico Pallazzo
Pizza in the mornin
Pizza in the evenin
Pizza at supper time
LordD99
Trending down as salary trends up.
just_thinkin
Seems like a Mounty for Castillo trade framework would have made a lot of sense.
SODOMOJO
I really thought we’d get something done for Yoshida or Casas and a sweetener. It makes too much sense, I’m surprised it hasn’t happened
tom brunanskys black sock
lol at “Yoshida OR Casas”
SODOMOJO
Do you perceive one’s value to be THAT superior to the other? Is it Casas, and is it simply because he is younger with cheaper control?
This is how we use our words and create functional discussion! We’re here to talk ball, right?
M’s is for maybe
Honestly neither interested me. I’d rather keep the rock.
SODOMOJO
I love watching Rock pitch and he will be missed if he does get dealt. Happy that it’s looking like we’re going to keep him. But at this point I’m so starved for a bat with some exciting upside that I might trade my future first born to get it done. If we’re gonna deal any of our arms, it should probably be him.
But I don’t blame you for preferring Rock over those two at all. Neither are sure things, there’s blemishes on both of them.
M’s is for maybe
Exactly. One a weak DH only bat, the other a weak defensive player who strikes out at an extremely high rate. Sure, Casas has some potential-to go either way.
Castillo is a known, and at what pitching goes for these days: a bargain.
SODOMOJO
I do think Macho Man has a “breakout” offensive season in him somewhere if he gets a bit more aggressive. But also, one of the things that I liked about him for the M’s is that he doesn’t strike out very often.
deweybelongsinthehall
Castillo going back to a hitter’s park has more risk than either Casas or Yoshida. Casas had a freak injury (name another) and will take in any ballpark. Yoshida is coming back from N injury but also is an MLB hitter. The issues are Casas’ glove and Yoshida’s lack of one. Given there is no surplus value in Castillo who is being paid as a #2, the Sox could have just tried to sign Eovaldi who has more upside (pitched in Boston and playoff built). Thus, the reason for financial relief in the form of Yoshida. It probably would have been more involved had they gotten closer.
danumd87 2
Seriously. The Mountcastle & Kremer framework made too much sense for both teams so of course it didn’t happen
El Niño
And Dylan Cease’s cost goes up.
NYCityRiddler
Mariners Less Likely To Compete in 25. Ahahahahaha!
muskie73
Seattle has swapped out Josh Rojas for Donovan Solano to essentially return the team that last year posted a Pythagorean record of 89-73.
The Mariners hope bounceback seasons from Julio Rodriguez, J.P. Crawford, Randy Arozarena and Mitch Garver will offset potential regression from Victor Robles and the starting rotation.
metsin4
Why is that? Most teams have their rosters set. Teams don’t pay more the longer you wait.
El Niño
Supply and demand.
Troy Percival's iPad
“Less likely” my brothers in Christ their asking price was too steep in October
This one belongs to the Reds
I wouldn’t deal Castillo if I were the Mariners either.
GoGreen
Looks like pitching will be the strength of the M’s again in 2025, as it should be.
stymeedone
While they play in that park, pitching will always be the strength and hitting will always be the weakness. They really need to make some park adjustments.
letitbelowenstein
Castillo is to the Mariners what Joe was to The Three Stooges. The least valuable and the most expendable. I can’t believe what Seattle (supposedly) wanted in return for him.
johncal25
Ah yes Joe the stooge – he was no Shemp.
muskie73
FanGraphs currently projects the Mariners seventh in the American League in overall 2025 WAR, including sixth in the league in position player WAR and seventh in pitching WAR.
Because of the T-Mobile Park effect, the Seattle roster is more balanced than many casual fans believe.
M’s is for maybe
Muskie with a real knowledgable comment. Fan is short for fanatic, which is so aptly named. Reason is rarely an attribute.
hllywdjff
The game is not played on paper…
Salzilla
For Casas and Yoshida? I would have pressed the accept button instantly.
Simm
While it seems like the mariners maybe done adding to their infield. I do wonder if they would trade Castillo for Arraez.
Saves them about 10m this year and nearly 50m for the two years afterwards. M’s probably want a more controlled player that is paid nothing. Perhaps the padres add a prospect or two that gives them that.
While that would add payroll to the padres. If they do end up trading Cease and Arraez they would be shedding nearly 28m. Which is less than Castillo is owed per season.
This would give the padres a replacement for Cease plus whatever they got back in the cease trade and save about 4m.
At the same time increase the M’s spending from a reportedly 4m left to about 14m left.
I don’t see this as a very likely option so I’m just throwing it out there.
Joemo
If the Padres are trying to cut salary, why would they take on the extra money from Castillo …..
Simm
The padres aren’t trying to cut salary. They are trying to sell and buy.
This issue is can they add to the team without moving some payroll around.
King Floch
The point of trading Arraez (or Cease) would be to free up money to fill several of the holes in their roster.
Taking on a guy making almost double what Arraez is making does not accomplish that.
Simm
They could easily fill holes with a cease trade.
Trading for Castillo then fills another hole.
They don’t have that many holes.
Joemo
Simm – every single article on this site referencing resident cease or arraez mentions the Padres cutting salary.
King Floch
The Padres’ biggest problem right now is that they have way too much money tied up on too few players.
Adding Luis Castillo and his multiple remaining years of a $20+ million salary only exacerbates that problem.
Simm
Adding Castillo also solves the next few years of needing quality starting pitching.
They can easily fit him into the budget the next few years.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Joemo
Padres have increased payroll by over $30M from ’24 payroll. Media is trying to push a narrative with their ownership in dispute. MLBTR has been summarizing these articles as they should.
Wouldn’t they have done so already before most of the free agents have been signed by other teams? What is the advantage to waiting this long if the agenda is to trim payroll?
King Floch
It would also likely put them right back in the same tough spot of having no available payroll space to fill holes again next offseason.
If they trade Arraez or Cease, it will be for younger, cost controlled talent not more overpaid veterans. They already have plenty of those.
ayrbhoy
Not to mention the fact that Padres Ownership is in flux with the death of Peter Seidler. His wife has also filed a lawsuit against PS’s brothers in laws accusing them of selling the trust’s interest at a low rate. Those free spending days may have come to an end
Simm
Padres wouldn’t be in the same position next year.
They have 55+ million coming off the books next year. Plus would have very few holes to fill. Especially with Musgrove returning next season. In addition they may have one or both of Salas and or DeVries as options.
Pitching is the main concern for the padres long term.
Once again I said this was unlikely. The more likely scenario are the padres trade a player or two then add a free agent or two.
Also not too likely the padres trade Arraez because he doesn’t hold much if any trade value.
momTurphy
Padres wouldn’t want Castillos contract. Mariners wouldn’t want Arraez’s lack of speed and defensive position. Would be lose-lose
Ma4170
Arraez isn’t that slow, not sure where that reputation came from. He’s basically middle of the pack in sprint speed, same as Bogaerts, who for some reason doesn’t get that reputation. He even stole 9 bases in 12 attempts, so he’s not this snail he’s made out to be on this message board.
ayrbhoy
Exactly! Arreaz is a terrible INF defender. The M’s can’t afford to make their INF Defense worse. Luke Raley is still learning 1B and Polanco at 3B is a downgrade from Rojas excellent work at 3B last yr. Besides the M’s are a better team by keeping L Castillo
stymeedone
The Padres would have to cut payroll to where they can afford to add Castillo, first. No one will make them a fair offer if they were to go over their much publicized spending level first.
Simm
Hence I said them trading Arraez and cease. That’s cutting payroll by 28m. Castillo is a little over 24m.
Padres also have even more money coming off the books next year. So they could afford Castillo salary beyond this year.
The latest article about padres payroll stated that it’s now viewed that padres will have a payroll around where it is now. If they are going to acquire anyone being paid more then a little they will need to sell to be able to buy.
cwsOverhaul
There are at least a dozen teams that would like to shed 1 or 2 overpriced veterans to reallocate money elsewhere. It’s like talking in circles. Decent prospects hoarding is at its peak the last 2 offseasons/trade deadline other than Crochet trade……but if someone really wants to dump money-part with an upper tier prospect.
sillywabbit
The free agent starting pitching market this winter has shown Castillo’s contract has some plus value. ALL prices have went up. Good on Dipoto on standing pat rather than making a meh trade. Seattle doesn’t have much depth beyond the top 5 so this is likely wise. The no trade clause expires after this year so expect a trade once they draft a college pitcher #3.Jerry knows when to hold’em when the offers are light.
King Floch
I really wanted the Orioles to trade for Castillo but I’m also not terribly upset that it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen now. He would have been replacing Kremer in the rotation and there was only a 9 point difference in ERA+ between the two in 2024, and while I do expect Castillo to bounce back from his almost exactly league average performance from last year, his age says that he may not and that he might simply be more of an overpaid mid rotation guy moving forward.
I hate cooperhill
I hate “cooperhill”
algionfriddo
Polanco will likely improve offensively in 2025. But, he DOES NOT have the arm to play 3b… bottom 8% on Statcast. His range at 2nd was awful in 2024… bottom 2%. A healthy knee may help a bit but unlikely. If he hits, maybe 1b. Sign Yoan Mocada to a 1 year incentive laden contract to play 3b.
TridentsUp!
Jude really knows how to post inflammatory tweets then fade back into the bushes like Homer Simpson. He did it with his cryptic “Mariners saved 8 million so that doubles their available money” tweet. Now the ‘signing of Polanco puts an end to the Mariners moves this offseason’ one.
Really wish he would back these gasoline infused tweets but never does. Just posts and runs away.
M’s is for maybe
Rage bait gets clicks, which gets him paid. Welcome to 2025 “journalism”
R.D.
if the M’s turned down 10 years of Casas+Yoshida for 2 years of Castillo then they don’t want to get better. That’s a great deal.
TridentsUp!
Its 4 of Casas and 3 of Yoshida. But Yoshida was almost making the same as Castillo and is not worth the money at all since he’s a DH only type bat. If Yoshida was a league average 2nd or 3rd baseman, I think the Mariners would have pounced on it. Plus then you would have had to go out and sign a pitcher to replace Castillo with the salary swap almost being a wash, the Ms wouldn’t have the money to do that.
M’s is for maybe
Not to mention that a two for one means someone else on your roster has to go. Subtraction by addition.
M’s is for maybe
Disagree. Not a great deal.
Salzilla
If I were the M’s I would have made the move for Casas and Yoshida for Castillo in a heartbeat.
ripperlv
It’s time for all Mariner fans to boycott ticket and merchandise sales. Time for protest folks !!!!!
deepseamonster32
The Twins should call back and make a bigly offer for Luis Castillo and Luis F. Castillo, then market them as twins to unsuspecting fans.
King Floch
1 million IQ 4D chess right here.
lafitteslanding
The Mariners seem to be banking on two things. First that their star laden starting rotation stays healthy and lives up to expectations and that Julio Rodriguez has a borderline MVP season. If that occurs, they are likely to win the west. If Julio plays like he did in 24 (solid but not MVP level) and/jor they lose one or more pitchers to injury, going to be another long season in the Pacific Northwest.