Billionaire brothers Justin and Mat Ishbia are no longer interested in purchasing the Twins from the Pohlad family, reports Jon Greenberg of The Athletic. Justin Ishbia instead intends to purchase a greater minority share of the White Sox, Greenberg writes. Kurt Badenhousen and Eben Novy-Williams at Sportico reported last month that the Ishbias had purchased a small share of the White Sox back in 2021.
In the short term, the biggest significance is that it’s a major setback in the Twins sale process. The Pohlad family announced in October that they were looking to sell the Minnesota franchise, which they’ve owned for four decades. The Athletic’s Dan Hayes reported in early January that the Pohlads had received robust interest and were hoping to have the sale finalized by Opening Day. There were reportedly multiple interested parties, but the Ishbias seemed the early frontrunners.
Mat and Justin Ishbia co-own the Phoenix franchises in the NBA and WNBA. While Mat Ishbia is the majority owner of the basketball teams, Justin Ishbia would have been the control person had they purchased the Twins. It’s unclear how far down the road the Pohlads got in negotiations, but they’ll now need to turn their attention elsewhere.
Over the longer haul, this is also a potentially seismic development for the White Sox. Greenberg writes that some people familiar with the situation believe this will be a stepping stone to Justin Ishbia eventually assuming majority control of the franchise from Jerry Reinsdorf. White Sox VP of communications Scott Reifert pushed back against that notion. “White Sox limited partners have received an offer from a third party to purchase their shares in the team, providing liquidity for the limited partners on their long-term investment in the club,” he told Greenberg. “This offer to limited partners has no impact on the leadership or operations of the Chicago White Sox and does not provide a path to control.”
Reinsdorf, who turns 89 next week, has owned the White Sox since 1981. He has owned the NBA’s Bulls since the mid-80s. For more than a decade, Reinsdorf has maintained that his family should sell the White Sox after his passing. He reportedly had conversations with a Dave Stewart-led group about a sale last October. It’s not clear whether those talks made progress, though Stewart joined the A’s in a special assistant role last month.
That process also involved some speculation about relocation. The Sox’s lease at Rate Field runs through 2029. Reinsdorf lobbied for a reported $1 billion in public funding for a new stadium in Chicago’s South Loop last year. As of last October, the White Sox were continuing to pursue the South Loop project.
I expect the Ishbia bros to full control of the Wsox whenever JR is dead.
In my mind that’s the only reason to back away from the Twins. The Sox will come with an influx of cash from a new park soon…regardless where the team plays. MN doesn’t have that with Target Field.
Chicagoland is pretty firmly in Cubs hands right now, but there’s SO much potential there for the organization to do well as a realistically mid-market teams.
Win games. That Sox merch moves pretty well given the win totals dont match it.
If they moved into the Loop area and basically tried to replicate a smaller Comiskey environment. It’d be pretty interesting to see.
I just have a feeling that MLB is tired of some of these two team regions. They need to expand by a couple teams. It seemed kind of ridiculous to move the A’s to the reportedly #1 expansion location. So I’m not sure I see them making Vegas and maybe not staying in Sacramento.
Sox are a legacy franchise. Chicago can take both teams just fine. They feed off eachother during good times.
I can see Vegas and Nashville ending up with the expansion teams. With the A’s in Sacramento and the Rays maybe even in Orlando.
The White Sox are nowhere close to getting a new ballpark in Chicago. Considering the Bears can’t even get public money for a new stadium, the Sox have no shot unless it’s privately financed.
Which is an interesting consideration for Ishbia. With the Twins he would have had no stadium concerns.
With the White Sox assuming he eventually becomes the controlling owner he will have to pay his own stadium in Chicago.
This is the first bit of good news about the White Sox that I’ve heard in years.
Just the possibility of Ishbia ownership one day is great news for Sox fans.
Then the White Sox won’t be in Chicago anymore, will they?
Before today I thought that the White Sox and Cubs would both hold up their votes for the next CBA unless the White Sox are given the permission to move to Nashville. It was in both teams’ interest, and with only 7 votes needed to reject any CBA deal they would have a lot of power.
But with this news, I think Ishiba is in it in Chicago for the long haul.
How about making an offer to buy the Cardinals??? The DeWitts —- either aren’t interested in paying for a League Championship contending team —— or don’t have the money to “Keep up with the Jones’s!” Or do to speak!
Outside of maybe a half dozen franchises, no one does anymore.
Who cares? Not a real baseball team.
they are still worth money and could be rebuilt.
I say this as a Brewers fan, white Sox have won a world series under reinsdorf and it’s more than we’ve got.
You can have it. It’s an embarrassing franchise.
Not sure why you’re so cranked up about it but no, he can’t have it (nothing personal, steve).
That’s pretty much all the fans that are still around have and as bad as they’ve been recently, that was a killer post season run.
Reinsdorf is approaching ninety years old and knows an ownership transition is coming soon. Not sure exactly how it’ll change the on field product but I know that no one is willing to invest without looking to get some sort of positive return on that investment.
You’re seriously gonna complain about the franchise and continue to complain about a potential change? At least let the process play out a little bit.
I’ve seen enough. If you want to continue to waste your time, have a blast!
Also, you should research the history of the Reinsdorf family’s ownership of the Bulls and White Sox. Outside of shrewdly drafting a psychopathic competitor in Michael Jordan and a season full of nails pitching, there would be nothing to celebrate for either team.
Other than 7 titles nothing to see here? Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Dan Marino, Billy Beane, and the Detroit Lions say hi.
Other than the things to cheer for there’s nothing to cheer for.
The Lions have won 4 NFL Championships.
Just like the Bears have 8 NFL Championships pre-merger.
Jerry never drafted Jordan. He bought the team the year after Jordan was selected.
And Jordan won 0 titles without Phil or Jerry K. Who Jerry hired.
Like all the Canadien championships when the league was like 2 teams
And the Twins have won two under the Pollads. Crappy owners are still crappy owners no matter how many titles they win.
And crappy fans are still crappy fans no matter how many comments they post on the internet.
Ooh deep cut. You should work the drunk shift at comedy clubs just to heckle the hecklers
Kinda cool how all the teams w crappy owners are in the same central divisions. We deserve each other as competitors. At least it’s a level playing field of suck
Stevewpants-
I always like to remind Cubs fans that the White Sox have thrown as many World Series as the Cubs have won since 1908 lol
Cubs tried to throw a world series in the years before the Black Sox scandal but messed that up apparently
A blind squirrel.
Ie. I’m going to post about how little I care about things because my opinion is needed on everything
You’re right, I probably should just keep my mouth shut. But I feel conned into having been a fan of the Reinsdorf teams, so I’m trying to warn away others from the same frustrations.
I guess if this billionaire buys them, they might spend money.
Sorry, but I care, and Im a vocal critic of Reinsdorf and his management personnel for the club and have been for a LONG time. However, it does not mean I do not care of the White Sox, I just want ownership that will do something with this team. Hate the owner, heck hate (or at least call out) certain players, don’t hate on the team.
You were prolly one of the ones who still showed up for Soxfest and cheered on the prospects. Actually looked like fun. Respect
Sarcasm is fun.. oh wait… you are serious?
In any case, I would never go to a Sox fest as it would be a validation to the miser mummy that he is doing something good with the team and he certainly is not, nor has been since he stabbed Renteria in the back (let alone other things like Kenny Williams being VP instead of being fired AND allow him to make trades over Hahn’s head)
Would be great if enough WSox investors sell out to them (or anyone competent/not short-sighted) so JR can be overthrown running the show. It’s not like he personally is a majority owner of the team.
As long as they get their money, they could care less. Welcome to the wonderful world of stockholders.
That is the bigger issue here, outside of Reinsdorf I doubt there is one ‘baseball’ fan among most of these mummies.
Or they are fans but just want to spend enough to hang out in the expensive boxes and wear team windbreakers. Don’t get me wrong, if I had the kind of money where I could drop $8m to say I’m a minority owner I’d consider it too. But the number of folks who have enough cash to simply decide to step up and underwrite an additional $100m in salary every year is limited.
please buy the marlins and make them a winner
The Marlins have had many good teams. The problem is that they’re allergic to winning. Everytime they start winning, they’re throat starts to swell and they’re eyes swell shut until they spit out all their good players to other teams around the league. Glad I’m not a Marlins fan.
I will take any sign of hope
Anybody but Reinsdorf
Will they become the Salt Lake, Nashville, Portland or Charlotte White Sox?
No.
You’re fooling yourself. The precedents have been set with the Oakland A’s moving to Vegas and other interested markets being available. Chicago is highly unfriendly towards their sports teams right now, and they nearly lost the Bears already. Writing is on the wall. A new stadium IS coming.
Well, now that you’ve explained this so thoroughly yet succinctly, I’ve come to the realization that I’ve been fooling myself.
Thank you for opening my mind to new possibilities.
It’s cyclical. Like the late 90s with the move of the Expos to Washington and new franchises coming out. The Royals and Rays are in flux right now, Charlotte is growing fast, Nashville has not competitors in the immediate area, etc.
It’s a hungry market with baseball trying to expand and re-claim its historic value/market. Same as they were back in the late 90s
Portland would also support an MLB franchise but I think Nashville may be next in line. It would be awesome to go to Portland games. I’ve been a Giants fan for 60 years (born/raised in Santa Cruz) but been living outside of Portland since 1980. It would be great to go to a real MLB GAME.
I don’t think we can honestly say that the Rays or Marlins have been supported very well as far as fans in the seats and the Rays have been very competitive for awhile now. I could see Miami fans being disgruntled with the team enough to stay away. But two Florida teams doesn’t make sense to me.
Yeah but even saying “You’re fooling yourself” is off. Fooling Yourself, track 2 from Grand Illusion, Styx. Dennis DeYoung, south side, lifetime White Sox fan. Sox not going anywhere. Maybe Nashville will get another tacky sports team to add to their tacky tourist village, but it will be on their own dime. Tennessee is a cool and beautiful state but Nashville is no great tourist mecca just tacky (Memphis is the town with soul, Knoxville and Chataboogie very hip). Besides Nashville is not even very welcoming to out of town sports fans- anyone recall to their petty insecurities during the NHL playoffs where they banned anyone from wearing an away jersey in the lower sections?
mab: Never been to Portland, so my knowledge of the market is limited. But years ago I’d read that the weather (rains) was a factor in the failure of Portland’s short-lived AAA team. And that MLB had at one time stated that any attempt to get a team there would have to include a roof. The potential ownership group at the time found the cost of that to be prohibitive.
Chicago is not ‘highly unfriendly’ toward their sports teams. It called ‘economics’ and Illinois nor Chicago have the funding to just throw a couple billion here or there for two teams that have not been relevant in about 10 years each (Im being nice). Never mind the obvious ulterior motives of ‘the Chairman’ wanting to move so he and his cronies can bank on the real estate around the new stadium where very very few will benefit, including his team as he’ll take most of that money and run blaming something else if his team does not draw.
Then there are the Bears, whose current stadium still costs the tax payers and likely will still cost them many generations from now.
The orgs have no one to blame but themselves, they still have the old way of thinking that cities will just throw barrels of money at them regardless of how well the team is doing.
Lets see them both become perennial playoff and championship contenders and then the powers that hold the money may talk.
If a new stadium is coming the billionaire owners and the league can spend the money themselves. Its not like chicago is highly unfriendly to sports teams, the owners are unfriendly to put a winning product on the field. Cubs spend money in the wrong places, bears have been in a every season rebuild, sox cant rebuild a rebuild. 2nd or 3rd largest market. Fans show up or the potential of more fans are there, but the winning product isnt. White sox get the short end of the stick in fans showing up only to winning seasons.
Not sure why the press never mentions it, but don’t sleep on San Antonio. When the question of expansion was first raised five or so years ago, Rob Manfred himself pointed out (suggested?) that San Antonio is actually the biggest US market that does not have an MLB team.
Vegas means $$$ and Manfraud is all about the $$$
He prefers ‘Manzeer’.
That’s Manfred spitballing. I haven’t heard of an expansion group out of San Antonio. There’s one next city over in Austin.
Park drawing from San Antonio and Austin that leans into the shared Tex-Mex Tejano culture would be dope. Ballpark that’s centrally located and accessible to public transportation would do very well. Nice contrast to the cheatros and the inaccessibility of the Rangers complex. And the excitement around FC Austin demonstrates how a young and upwardly mobile fan base could fuel a ball club there. Sorta the Colorado Rockie- Utah sports model.
San Antonio. Churro capital of the NBA. LOL
They will stay in Chicago. That city can easily support two baseball teams. But, JR is a joke and the only reason the franchise stinks and doesn’t draw as well as the cubs.
The White Sox often outdrew the Cubs before the mid 80’s.
White Sox when they’re not actively trying to irritate their fan base w drunk sleepy Tony outdraw the Cubs among other demographics: minorities, families, Gen Z, young professional urban dwellers, Riot festers. Cubs continue to clean up with tourists who add Wrigkey to their Navy Pier itinerary, suburbanites, and Trixies who buy $25 drinks, do the cup snake, and leave after the 7th inning stretch. Both fan bases can continue to coexist
Sox main fan base moved out of the area long ago. Bridgeport and surrounding immediate area population that have interest arent enough to support the team. Until they move the riot fest to Sox park, they don’t support the team. Drive past Joliet on 55, it’s St. Louis cardinals fans.
Maybe they can have as much success as they have had with the Suns. LMAO.. Just cause you have made money doesn’t make you a good owner or guarantee the team any success.
The Suns have a huge following and their ownership has made lots of moves to get better. Their ownership at least tries. That’s very important to their fans.
@Marksman: You are correct, however, a decent owner who can put ego aside (and frugality) to simply pay a strong POBO can change an organization quick….even if their mission is zoned in on “strong player development” to avoid relying on expensive l-t FA deals. Basketball is tough comp b/c you can thrive with 2 stars. Execs and coaching staff in baseball have to be much smarter (not unqualified JR loyalists on the cheap) to achieve consistent success if they are not the deep pocket few (LAD, NYY, NYM, Philly/RSox/Cubs when they decide to use financial advantages).
This is huge! Best case scenario, a Chicagoan who knows how to run a team. Hope this all works out
I’m sorry Twins fans, but I’m so glad this is happening! Your day will come Twins fandom!
I’m not sorry Twins fans! Dadtootum piranhas and the 90s early 00s.
Such a winnable division with a team that has great fans and a lot of homegrown talent… such a bleh ownership that made no effort to succeed in the post season.
Would hate to mention contraction given their cool fans but they were on the block w the Marlins.
Expos actually.
Stand corrected
Interesting turn of events for sure.
For the love of god YES! Buy the whole team!
Minority owner of the Nashville soccer team pursuing larger share of one of MLB’s best relocation candidates. hmmmm
“Minority owner of the Nashville soccer team…” Doesn’t seem so scary when you end the sentence there.
It’s interesting that so many people think the White Sox will relocate whenever Reinsdorf no longer owns them. They have been in Chicago for 125 years, seems unlikely to me that they will just leave
Length of time, popularity, and size of the market have zero to do with whether a team relocates or not. For reference: New York Giants, Brooklyn Dodgers, Philadelphia Athletics, Boston Braves. It is ALL about money and how many free goodies the owners can get from cities
You might want to reference some more recent relocations:
• New York Giants (1957)
• Brooklyn Dodgers (1957)
• Philadelphia Athletics (1954)
• Boston Braves (1952)
Yeah great recent examples. Like the Cincinnati Royals and the Cleveland Barons. Know any Ike jokes. That Bettye White she’s a looker. Did you see her one piece bathing suit spread in Look magazine.
They need to move into the Loop and build a smaller Comiskey type park. Chicago has always worked becsuse of the weird tension between the Sox-Cubs demographics. But where they are now is dated and just not a place they’ll catch extra tourist dollars.
Baseball wants to expand. I honestly could see there being 4 “new teams” I’m not even sold the A’s make Vegas…and when Fisher sells to his buddy in Sacramento…Vegas isn’t rewarded an expansion teams. Which always made more sense. MLB did manage to get funds allocated there.
I could see this happening
Sacramento A’s
Vegas expansion
Nashville Stars
Orlando Rays
You’re right about tourist dollars for now, but the Ricketsville suburban bowling arcade with $25 drinks is not aging well. Neighborhood went from being quaint with some cool neighborhood bars and rooftop apartments when we were kids to Biff Tannen’s tacky Vegas amusement park. Tourists will realize over time that Ricketsville is as genuine an experience as Navy Pier. Meantime Bridgeport, Pilsen and Chinatown are becoming the hipster destinations for Gen Z and young professionals. 78 neighborhood project would be dope, but young people are already going to Sox games in numbers. Just not till the summer
Wrigley was ruined for me a long time ago. My Cubs time pretty much ended around Sosa. It was drawing tourists in the 80s. But still had charm. Its a frat party with a game in the background now…and some suspect plumbing in the upper deck. Just facts for me. But that’s my era. It’s ok to move on.
Wait, you think the Rays and Marlins have been sooo successful that Florida now needs a third team? That’s rather demented.
They will not be leaving Chicago.
Roob-
If you’re talking to me. I’m talking Rays moving to Orlando. It’s not really far fetched
Sad news for Twins fans everywhere
And somewhere, Reinsdorf smokes a cigar.
I’m of the firm belief that everyone needs to smoke a cigar before and after any major life decisions.
After two decades they finally push some chips in and win a playoff game then the owners get cold feet. The dream buyers then walk away. How am I supposed to root for this team? Great all around team if the core is healthy but it’s still hard to be excited or optimistic
Looks like JR is hedging against the possible labor strike/lockout and doesn’t want to be holding as large a piece when the bad times come.
I’d probably have to wonder about tax implications on his passing. But how can anyone trust much of anything
They should sell to the wealthy Winkelvoss brothers, who are crypto kings. They’re actually twins. ✌️
But they eat people.
I was watching the Dodgers spring game Thursday and was reminded that they share their home stadium with the ChiSox. One team could very realistically win 110 games and the other could definitely lose 110 games. Oh, the dichotomy.
Reinsdorf will mange to bend White Sox fans over from the grave. Remember, it can always get worse.
Well it will definitely happen if Chicago or the State cave in and give him and his cronies their real estate around the Loop.. sorry, I mean his ‘stadium’ that he wants.
They may have to bury him like they buried Pullman to keep the vandals away from his grave.
Obviously they are not selling until he passes
Yep
That shouldn’t be too much longer
He turns 89 next week. The other Chicago owner just died at 102. You never know
Females live longer than males.
Dude looks in really good health when you see pics of him at the ballpark with his cigars
Yeah
Ishbia bros buy in and they get to see the financials, right? Shrewd move to get a look before the team is offered for sale when the sell side financial advisor won’t let potential buyers see the financials unless they make an offer first.
They are already minority owners and should have a pretty good idea what the books look like. But yes, easing into things before buying the whole enchilada, especially when the stadium situation is not settled, is the smart way to go.
Another indication that MLB small and mid market franchises are not worth as much as the so called experts claim. Mark Cuban let you know that years ago when he looked into it and the disparity is even worse now.
There have been multiple bids for the Twins, and the bid prices rumored exceeded valuations.
Where is that coming from? Examine the source and the motivation. Works the same in political “information”.
Yeah, I’m going to want more than a “The Charleston Chiefs are moving to Florida” story to define their market as robust. As long as they had a solid buyer it may have been, but with this page turning it could be a while before another comes along that’s willing to accept their valuation. This might not happen quickly, especially with the national tumult that’s starting. No one knows how all that plays out this summer..
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