The departure of Willy Adames in free agency left the Brewers with a glaring hole at shortstop and multiple ways to address the issue. Given Milwaukee’s perennially low payroll, a costly acquisition to replace Adames felt every bit as unlikely as the team’s chances of retaining the former All-Star. Fellow infielders Joey Ortiz and Brice Turang are both shortstops who played different positions in deference to Adames last year; Ortiz at third base primarily and Turang at second base exclusively (save for one lone DH appearance).
While the final alignment will be contingent on health and spring performance, Brewers owner Mark Attanasio at least tipped his hand a bit with regard to his organization’s thinking. When asked about his lack of additions to the roster, Attanasio touted the young talent the Brewers have returning in 2025 and noted a desire to get prospect Tyler Black at third base, noting that Ortiz “can slide over” to shortstop (link via Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel).
A move to shortstop would only be natural for Ortiz, who spent the bulk of his minor league career there. He only moved off the position due to the presence of Adames in Milwaukee. Lining up as the Brewers’ regular third baseman in 2024, Ortiz ranked as one of the top defensive infielders in the sport. Defensive Runs Saved (8) and Outs Above Average (11) both credited him with excellent totals at third base despite “only” logging about 82% of a season there. (Ortiz also played 10 games at shortstop and made six appearances at second base.)
Both Baseball America and FanGraphs labeled Ortiz a 70-grade defender (on the 20-80 scale) in his prospect days; MLB.com tabbed him with a 65 glove. Plus to elite defense was always expected from the 2019 fourth-rounder. So far, he’s made good on that billing. Ortiz also at least held his own at the plate, slashing .239/.329/.398 in 511 plate appearances — good for a 104 wRC+. He popped 11 homers, 25 doubles and six triples last year.
Turang could presumably handle shortstop as well, but it’s hard to displace a player who just took home a Platinum Glove for his superlative work at second base. The former No. 21 overall pick won his first of what will likely be many Gold Gloves in 2024 and was named the NL’s top overall defensive player as well. Defensive Runs Saved credited Turang with an outrageous mark of 22. Statcast wasn’t quite so over-the-moon but felt he was a clear plus, pegging him at 6 OAA.
A middle-infield tandem of Ortiz and Turang might be the best defensive pairing in all of baseball. That’ll be important, as the rest of the infield faces more questions about its glovework. Rhys Hoskins will be back for a second season after exercising a player option valued at $18MM. The Brewers still owe him that salary and a $4MM buyout on a 2026 mutual option. Hoskins has negative career marks at first base and struggled again in 2024 — his first season back from an ACL tear that cost him the 2023 campaign.
At the hot corner, it seems like the 24-year-old Black will get the opportunity to run with the position, though Dunn and trade acquisition Caleb Durbin could also factor in. Black is a bat-first prospect who’s hit at every minor league stop but has had a nomadic journey in pro ball with regard to his defensive home. He’s played third more than any other position but also has ample experience at second base, first base and in the outfield — including center.
The Brewers have tried playing Black all over the field, because the bat and the speed play even with a below-average arm and questionable footwork/instincts in the field. Black’s ultimate home might be at first base, but Hoskins has that locked down for now thanks to the aforementioned contract and salary. Black might push across the diamond in 2026, but there’s no everyday role for him at first right now. Hoskins can’t slide to DH full-time, as Christian Yelich will see a decent bit of time there.
Dunn and Durbin offer some interesting alternatives, but neither has Black’s upside at the plate. Dunn didn’t hit much in a 104-plate appearance debut last year, but he has a big track record in the upper minors. He’s been far more strikeout-prone than Black in the minors and generally lacks the hit tool and swing decisions Black boasts. Durbin, acquired in the Devin Williams/Nestor Cortes trade, has yet to make his MLB debut. He’s a contact, speed and OBP-oriented infielder who’s best suited at second base but has 660 professional innings at third base as well. Durbin’s bat-to-ball skills, plate discipline and speed are all strong, but he’s light on power and posted bottom-of-the-scale exit velocity and hard-hit numbers in Triple-A last year.
They will be fine
They had to free Willy to open up that slot in the turf.
“Free food, free swimming pool, Free HBO. Ooh! Free Willy!”…
NL Central might be the black and blue division. Gonna be a fun summer.
most likely a Reds summer…
Yeah.. very much doubtful! lol. But thanks for the comment, I needed a good laugh today hahah
The brewers are finally out of contention.
Everybody said the same thing last year. Everybody else should enjoy the battle for second.
pdxbrewcrew:
1. Brewers
2. Reds
3.Pirates
4. Cardinals
5. cubs
It won’t end up that way (except for the Brewers). I just hate the cubs and want to see Skenes and de la Cruz play extra games.
Black will be a Visionary at 3rd for the Brew Crew.
Tyler Freaking Black!
They’ll have 3 guys in the IF, at minimum wage, with 16 control years left. This is why they win every year.
What have they won???????
They are laughing stocks when they get in the playoffs anyway. If they don’t start investing in top of the line free agents then they should sell that team. The economics of baseball are real fella.
The Brewers have 6 picks in the first 68. They have youngest player in MLB top 100 in last year’s Jesus Made international signing They had an incredible 2023 draft to go along with a strong farm system. They have a lot if young starters on their team, the future is bright. They can not afford to sign players that will not help the team in the long run. Free agents don’t work out a lot of times, they can block equally talented younger players and hurt morale.
So where did they put their $$ since not paying Willy?
Contreras’s salary is up over $5M from last year. Hoskins is up $6M. Peralta is up $2.5M. Civale is up $3M. Ashby is up $2M. Payamps is up over $1M.
$19.5M for the increase in salary for those six. Adames made $12.25M last year. And the Williams trade didn’t clear any payroll. Williams made $7.25 last year; Cortes is getting $7.6M.
Caveat – huge phillies fan and as a genX., so I get these guys make “waaaay too much” and whatever else….
But man I feel for Hoskins. All the guy ever did was produce and wanted to be a great Phillie, man he walked the path and talked the talk and was great for the team….
Remember where I was when I went from work to an establishment of mirth and saw the the play and heard the “news”.
Hoskins still has a good bit of us as fans here….
Rhys is still my favorite player, defensive shortcomings be damned. Such a good dude…
Sounds like brew crew have a third base disaster in the making with below average options defensively and offensively. The cheapskate owner should have allowed the FO to spend a little green as this is a glaring hole
mad1;
How many weeks have you been following MLB?
My sentiments as well!!!
Have you looked at the level of quality @ 3B lately. A few guys at the top, and then nothing. Durban should be fine offensively. The guy hits for average and gets on base. You don’t hit for average with the highest of exit velocities. Bat control is more of the factor. Never see measurements for that. Its not just strikeout rate.
So moving Ortiz back to 3b could never happen by thT statement? Bad 3b defense end up at 1b/2b or OF. I don’t get how Turang wouldn’t just slide to SS and putting that “3b problem” at 2b.
What they needed was Bergman. He helps that team win the division.
A Misiorowski and Brock Wilken to Boston for Devers and cash makes sense.
Youjustmadethatup;
LOL
Possibly the most ridiculous trade proposal made here all offseason…..and dozens of Yankee fans were turned loose
to post.
No 300 mil contract ever makes sense for them.. your response will be “i said cash too” A) sox wont pay down a contract they gave out like a yr ago. B)theyd have to give like 200 mil for it to work for Milwaukee. what they needed was christian walker. Not bregman.
Boston would 100% eat most of that contract to rid themself of the PR disaster they created, bozo. Get a clue
Yeah that’s why you heard casas in rumors and not devers. Got it. Smart guy.
Who is Bergman?? A cross between Lance Berkman and Alex Bregman?
Man, what a great player that would be. Haha
The Brewers don’t have the cash or the stomach for Devers errors!! Let the kids have 3b they definitely will be better than Devers!!!
Don’t toss out trade proposals that wouldn’t happen even in fantasy.
Very excited to see what Crew has in Durbin as his versatility/extreme athleticism/High OBP, should be fun at AmFam watching him disappear the ball in the right field corner/bang it off those angled outfield walls, (seems to be an oft overlooked lil home field advantage the Crews employed) it’s been fun watching them construct this roster, find the guys that fit/maximize their stuff, Loving it.. Dunn is the least athletic but seems to field/move “efficiently” and supposedly has the superior arm if compared to Black, also said to have solid bat speed/lift in his lefty swing and can get on base.. but often seems “set up” by opposing pitchers cause of aggressive tendencies and is “one of those” who’ll walk three times one day/“whiff” at everything the next week..hopefully not one “living” on being “aggressive”/only feeding off minor league pitching..well apparently he did in ‘23 at AA, but the crew Love his “swing”/ability and apparently think/hope he can be more than another “AAAA”/utility major leaguer.. Black is the “real deal”.. even if he doesn’t have the swing speed (and maybe he does I haven’t “checked”) of a Dunn/ Mitchell/ Chourio/ Yelich/ Contreras.. the dude sees ball/barrels ball or sees ball/walks and proceeds to take whatever bases he wants from there.. and with how he’s been consistently jerked around defensively well what a “testament” to his offensive ability he’d still always put up such great production, it’s time to give him a real chance at a real everyday job/position/role and he’ll play his way into producing/fitting his way in this roster, he’s too good/this team is almost seemingly too “fluid” for it not to “workout”.. “they’ll” knock his “power” potential.. if a guy walks, takes 2nd/3rd “at will”.. u can “say” all day long that’s not “slugging” but with how runs are scored/the game is played, well value is value and getting on base/taking bases should count in “OPS” and Thank God The Crew have it figured it out, get rid of the base cloggers and let the speed slug/cause defensive mishaps “for u,” runs all count the same.. im so thankful to have been born into getting to enjoy Ueck but also this incredibly prosperous time for WI sports in general, the Crew sucked a long time then drafted Fielder/Braun when I was in about 5th/6th grade and have been “competitive/interesting” since.. now they’ve essentially utterly dominated the NL central since sometime in 2017..keep “doubting”.. just makes better “bets” (I’ve never bet my money on baseball, just tell friends if they’re so inclined to bet/wanna “win”) for those of us who can Thank God apparently actually see the difference between winning/losing.. but it seems if u can’t see/tell good from evil how could u ever tell the difference between a potential winner/loser.. the cubs will be “good” this year but they ”should” be, it’s like the current Bucks team.. throw enough $$ at it/resources..well yeah the team outta be competitive enough to be compelling but are they a real “winner” ugh.. so glad for Murph Thank God for Murph, The Man Milwaukee baseball didn’t know it needed so freaking bad!!
There’s this new invention you should look into. It’s called a “paragraph.”
Ow, my eyeballs…
I hope Ortiz has a nice year though.
Best defensive middle infield in baseball? It’s not even the best middle infield in the best in their own division.
Far and away the best in the division.
seeing as they have the platinum glove winner and team gold glove. probably safe to say with Ortiz moving to his more natural position.
Sure.
Anyone who saw Ollie Dunn play last year knows he has no business on an MLB field.
Very true hoping that Boeve will be up by May to take his roster spot. Take Dunn, Monso and Bauers off the bench and replace them with Durbin, Boeve, Martinez/Clarke .
Boeve had shoulder surgery last October with a 6 month recovery.
No chance he’s an option for the big-club in May. Sometime the second-half of the season maybe if he crushes AAA pitching.
Thanks for the info
Usually the brewers add a bat or over 30 starter. They can still beat the cubs with the lesser payroll
“At the hot corner, it seems like the 24-year-old Black will get the opportunity to run with the position” – well, maybe not. This piece draws that conclusion based on Tuesday’s Journal Sentinel story quoting Attanasio as saying, “So there really weren’t any spots to fill. Maybe third base, but we want to give Tyler Black a shot and Oliver Dunn, and (Joey) Ortiz can slide over,” so Black and Dunn seemed to have equal footing there. And in a story Wednesday the same Journal Sentinel writer reported this: “Manager Pat Murphy said Wednesday that Black will spend more time at first than third in camp and that the Brewers won’t try him in the outfield.”