The Padres have yet to make a significant move this offseason. San Diego hasn't made a single major league free agent or trade acquisition. It's clear they're hamstrung financially. The complaint filed by Peter Seidler's widow against the late owner's brothers only adds to the overall organizational uncertainty.
If San Diego is going to make any upgrades of note, they'll need to first offload some money. It seems the Padres intend to get below the $241MM luxury tax threshold. RosterResource calculates their CBT number around $244MM. There are a few ways they could try to accomplish that. The ideal scenario would be to offload some of the money owed to Xander Bogaerts or Jake Cronenworth, but trading an underwater deal isn't easy. San Diego could move Luis Arraez but seems to want more value in return than other teams are willing to offer.
As a result, Dylan Cease has been at the periphery of offseason trade rumors. Reporting at the Winter Meetings suggested that the right-hander was available. There hasn't been any indication that they've moved close to a deal in the past month. It seems they're mostly status quo. ESPN's Jeff Passan wrote this week that the Padres have been willing to hear other teams out on Cease, though he doesn't suggest that San Diego is actively shopping him.
Unlike Bogaerts, Arraez and Cronenworth, Cease holds immense trade value. The Padres could demand a significant package while offloading his entire salary. They'd need to weigh that against subtracting arguably their best starter from a rotation that comprises Cease, Michael King, Yu Darvish and a host of question marks.
If the Padres decide they're motivated to move Cease within the next two months, what kind of return should they expect? A few trades over the past two offseasons provide some indications about how the market could value him.
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…to fall further behind the Dodgers?
Good thing the Diamondbacks are going ti give the Dodgers a run.
And the Giants aren’t rolling over. The NL West is cookin’ with some heat in ’25!
If the Pads get Roki, then trade Cease for a couple of young major leaguers like Kjersted and Mountcastle, thell be right there with the Dodgers once again.
Vermonster…. but why would Roki come into such a dysfunctional situation? With ownership up in the air and cost-cutting in the works, He can’t expect SD to maintain, let alone improve on the pitching lab that Roki has said is a priority for him.
San diego has pretty much all he’s looking for, and the disfunction, I guarantee was discussed with them ahead of time. This isnt new news. Also, theyre not cost cutting, considering they are up 40 million this year. They’re just trying to keep it under control.
You talked to Roki and know what he’s looking for? It sounds more like what your looking for.
Mets you’re commenting on an article that is based on 100% speculation and second hand click bait articles framed as “analysis” while asserting the financial position of a billion dollar franchise that only the board and executive team truly know…and your come back is “have you talked to Roki directly”?
@geoff Thats funny because Ohtani went to the Angels when they haven’t made the postseason in about 10 yrs. He could have went elsewhere to start his MLB career but stuck with the Angels.
Well hearing about how the Padres have everything Roki wants is just dumb and you following it up with of course it’s just speculation is just as bad. No one is looking to go to San Diego until this ownership nightmare is figured out.
You’re funny metsin4. I put you around 14, 15 max.
Why is Gwynnjng responding to me when he blocked me. Don’t talk about someone acting like they are 15 when you block someone because you get your feeling hurt.
I’ve never blocked you lol
Yes you have. You did after crying about Merrill losing the ROY to Skenes. I can’t respond to you. Now you can’t be honest about it.
You are responding to me, and I can obviously reply to you , how could I do that if you were muted? Lmao
What’s funny is you’re one of the couple 2, 3 posters that probably deserve a block!
Haha Enjoy high school next year brah!
I responded to my own post. You real creative with calling me a teenager.
K byeeeee metsy
Angels weren’t nearly that awful then. Trout was healthy, you had Pujols, Upton. Add Ohtani into that and you have a good core of players to move forward with………..on paper
Also, Ohtani and the DH position made a huge difference.. If the DH was MLB wide then, who knows what Ohtani does.
He could have said grade school?
At this point you have no clue if cost cutting is coming. In fact, you have the person with the largest single ownership stake fighting to keep there from being any cost cutting.
No nightmare. It will be resolved shortly. The Padres have a solid clubhouse and great players. And last time I checked, the game is played on the field not the owners box.
Judgement
Ohtani was limited to AL teams because he wanted to be a two way player and a DH slot was desired. The Angels were and are the only AL in Southern California and obviously prevailed over the Mariners, A’s, Yankees, etc.
Gwynning, apparently I came to this conclusion sometime ago because I wasn’t seeing him.
metsin4
No one is looking to go to San Diego until this ownership nightmare is figured out.
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Why? It is still a good team. He will get the max signing bonus, win a fair amount of games, and have the market to himself.
I’d say that dysfunction is a feature, not a bug. He’ll get lot more credit for the Padres making the playoffs than he would if he joined LAD.
Why would the Orioles do that?
Cause they lost Burnes and need a TOR arm. They actually need 2 but definitely need 1.
They have a surplus of OF and can roll with cowser Mullins O Neil with some guys in the minors very close
The package you suggested is worth more than just 1 year of Cease. Remember that the O’s themselves are trying to contend and losing Mountcastle hurts them there.
Kjerstad and Mountcastle?
Not really
That’s akin to the Joey Ortiz and DL Hall package the Orioles sent the Brewers for Burnes.
Losing Mluntcastle doesn’t hurt them. Not with O Hearn on hand to play 1B. They also signed Gary Sanchez. Moutcastle is coming off a .733 OPS season while Sanchez is coming off .699. Very little difference amongst the two as that isn’t very good OPS for a 1B/DH type. So Sanchez could see time at 1B and DH too.
Orioles could also opt to keep DH spot open to give big bats a day off rotate guys.
TIL that losing a 3-WAR guy doesn’t hurt a team.
And Burnes was a more attractive asset a year ago than Cease was today. Especially with that godawful postseason Cease is coming off.
3 WAR OH GOD WHY DIDNT YOU SAY SO.
Dude. It’s 1B. Easiest position infield and outfield to fill. Just put a big bat out there and call it a day.
3 WAR is 3 WAR. Doesn’t matter how he got it.
The fact he doesn’t have more cause of his .733 is concerning
Then why would SD want him bad enough to trade their best starter which they currently only have 3 of those and need 6?
If the Padres get Roki, why would they trade Cease. They will have to go with a 6-man rotation with Roki and that means they would need Cease more.
If the Padres get Roki, they will need 6 starters including Roki, so 5 in addition to Roki. If they don’t get Roki, they will need 5 starters. Sounds like signing or not signing Roki has no bearing on trading Cease by your logic.
I don’t think they should trade Cease either way. Team only has 3 starters as it stands and Cease worked well with Ruben Niebla. I wonder how much his postseason is driving Padres fans’ desire to trade him?
I actually don’t think they will need to go to a 6 man rotation.
Yes I’m aware Roki pitches once a week and throws around 100 innings.
Now go look at Lugo and king both guys who either had a few starts or pitched out of the pen. Most they pitched was around 100 innings. I think the padres can do what they did with them the last two years to build up Roki.
A lot of that will likely come down to what Roki wants for now.
Pitching at a pitcher’s park in perfect weather probably isn’t a bad selling point to a young pitcher, but maybe that’s just me
The Seidler Bros have done nothing so far, nothing.
All that is being battered about is reduction, reduction, reduction.
Seidler Bros are punting 2025.
I hope we don’t find out! A WC is realistic with him assuming rounding the roster out with at least average guys.
If traded, he better bring back immediate quality hole filers or why do it?
Exactly. You don’t, unless you get your sox knocked off.
I agree completely. Ideally you keep him at his bargain rate, he has a big platform year, team makes the playoffs, and then offers him a QO as he walks. The cherry on top will be when the QO prospect turns out to be better then any of the pieces traded to get him which is easy to envision at this point.
In the meantime, no credible SS, LF, Catcher and two starting pitchers. And apparently no budget to fix that without subtractions first.
Bogie and Cronie are both legit SSs. Trust in Preller, Dan. Dude knows how to make a roster.
Watched way too many balls go through XB’s legs. His arm is less than mediocre. Minimal range. Cronenworth hasn’t played SS since his days on the minors. If he was better than XB, he would be playing SS now.
You mean he knew in the past how to buy a roster….no more….let’s see what the Rock Star GM does when the money cubbbard is bare.
XB was pretty much cooked defensively when the Sox traded him…..all he offered was offense…..and that’s on the down side….
The Red Sox never trade Bogaerts!
It’s was more bare last year and he did pretty well.
Padres 2025 moves:
Trade Dylan Cease to Mets for:
SS Jett Williams
2B/SS/OF Ronny Mauricio
RHP Jonah Tong
Trade Luis Arraez to Yankees for:
RHP Clarke Schmidt
Trade Xander Bogaerts and $72M over 9 years to Red Sox for:
1B Tristan Casas
Trade Jake Cronenworth to Guardians for:
C David Fry
Sign RHP Roki Sasaki
Sign LRP Tanner Scott 4yrs/$54M
Sign LF Jurickson Profar 3yrs/$36M
Sign LHP Jose Quintana 1yr/$13M
Sign INF Donovan Solano 1yr/5M
2025 starting lineup:
Jett Williams
Fernando Tatis
Jurickson Profar
Manny Machado
Jackson Merrill
David Fry
Tristan Casas
Luis Campusano
Eguy Rosario/Ronny Mauricio
$2025 starting rotation:
Michael King
Yu Darvish
Roki Sasaki
Jose Quintana
Clarke Schmidt
lol
Then you have not watched any games. Bogaerts in the last 3 seasons ranks 9th fewest FE out of 25 SS with 2000 innings or more. His range is 13th in MLB at SS. A +7 OAA.
Cronenworth has played 61 games at SS in the majors.
You know you CAN look this stuff up. There are sites that have all this information and they are free.
Yeah, none of that is happening.
Mets are not moving Jett for 1 year of Cease! If they were planning on moving him they would have went after Crochet. Also no way in hell would the Indians want Cronenworth let alone pay him for the next 6 years, they could of kept Gimenez for only 25MM more over 5 years who’s a much better hitter and fielder at this point.
Gwynning, so is Merrill. So is Tatis. DeVries may be here by 2027.
Rey, Jett is probably not good enough of a prospect to headline the deal. Especially after getting hurt and hitting .215 last season. Sproat probably would be. Sproat, Megill, Mauricio, and Parada for Cease and Rodriguez. Mets get an Ace and a triple digit throwing reliever that is expected to break camp with the team. If not to Rodriguez, then Sean Reynolds.
Remember, the Padres asked for Mayer from the Red Sox, plus Abreu, Fitts, and Gonzalez.
I’ll sum it up as…
A lot.
*submit best offers here*
If we get Roki, send him to B-more for Kjersted and Mountcastle or Bradfield.
If Roki signs here, keep Cease and sign Mad Max. I’ve said it since these silly rumors started! A Baltimore trade could happen, but they prospecthug with the best of ’em…(looking at you, Cashman) and they would *need to* overpay.
I don’t think they are silly, given the fact that they missed out on burns, and others in their division have made significant moves.
But I wouldn’t mind your suggestion either, that’d be a heck of a 5 man rotation.
You are having trouble reading. They do not have room in their budget to keep Cease and Arraez. They are not going to sign Scherzer who will cost at least $15M.
Man…your dreaming buddy……
@FanDan If they don’t have room in their budget to keep them why did they trade for them?
Arraez came for almost nothing last year. Miami picked up his salary except league minimum. Last years payroll was less than this year. Cease and King are getting nice bumps via arbitration Darvish, Cronenworth, Tatis and Machado are getting pay raises. They stepped into it by signing Wandy Peralta. AJ was probably hoping he would opt out. The bottom line is that significant payroll increase this year over last year.
I meant the Cease rumors in general. I would only truly entertain moving Cease if we miss on Roki, but that’s just me, Verm.
@FanDan All of those pay raises you just mentioned we knew would happen a year ago. It wasn’t a secret. So that’s not an excuse. And if you are hoping a player opts out it’s 100% he’s not opting out.
AJ shot for the moon in 24. He knew a reckoning was coming, but figured the long term contracts he handed out in addition to his own contract expiring and no coverage from Seidler, 2024 was the best shot he was going to have. So he pulled the trigger. Emptied out most of his farm system and came up short. So here we are. It is what it is. Try to be competitive.
So you are saying that A. J. traded for Cease and Arraez with full intentions of trading them a year later for 40% of what he gave up to get them? If that’s the case he needs to be fired.
That is what we did. I have been saying he should have been fired a long time ago. But I think his contract is up in 26, so fire him after 25 and only have to payout 1 year.
Are you sure you’re not a Dodger fan in disguise, Danny?!? Jk jk I kid i kid
Bite your tongue. No I just think the rockstar was an overhype. Too many bad moves more than offset the good ones. Peter is gone and so is his protection.
To each their own. I endorse your opinion even if we’re on nearly completely opposite sides of the AJ spectrum. He’s done a brilliant job with 40 Man construction and scouting, but you do you bro!
10 plus years and no WS appearances. Near empty farm system (28 out of 30 teams). Long enough for a GM. Time to try another way.
I want a ring too, Dan. I think AJ offers the best chance. He’s hungry for cake as well. Theoretically, of available GM types, and in your opinion o/c, who could do better?
I don’t doubt his passion. Just his decision making and long term planning. I am not a baseball HR pro. I don’t know who is out there. But I do know that 10 years without getting near a title and all of the roster flexibility killing contracts he has given out that will not age well are not a rally cry for being retained.
The point of trading for a guy is to either use him or to flip him later on for MORE than you gave up to get him. Cease and Arraez’s trade values were both very much at their apex when they were traded for so that second option is out.
You mean like the Soto deal?
They stepped in it also with reuping Machado for no real reason.
Manny indicated he was using his opt out.
Yes. But XB was supposed to be insurance if he left. Remember Machado crying out that XB got his money. But Seidler was not going to let Manny leave. So if XB was insurance but you were not going to let Machado leave, why sign XB to that extravagant contact? And once you had XB, why double down on Machado. So now they will paying two guys way past their primes about $65M in total in a couple of years.
@FanDan They traded Soto for significantly less than they gave up to get him. Nice try tho!
@Gwynning Should have called his bluff
I support your comment. Yes the Padres came out in the long term on the short end of the trade with the Nats.
NonFanDan, You are having trouble with reality. No one has said that the Padres cannot keep all of their arbitration eligible players. The only people that matter, Kutsenda, Greupner, and Preller have said that they are keeping them. That they are planning to have a payroll somewhere between 2023 and 2024.
Fandan, you live in a fact free zone I take it. The Padres cut payroll from $291 million in 2023 to $227 million in 2024. The Control person, the CEO, and the POBO have all said the plan is to have a payroll somewhere between 2023 and 2024. More than that, they said that level is sustainable.
Don’t you even TRY to check the facts? Or do you just enjoy getting things wrong all the time?
Lets see… 92% of MLB POBO’s have not been to the WS in the past 10 years. Guess they should all be fired.
I would take a pass on Max, but that is just because I don’t think he fits the vibe they had last season.
Bogaerts was not insurance in case Machado left because Manny played 3B. Bogaerts was supposed to be what he had been the past few years before signing with the Padres, a consistent 5 WAR SS.
Bogaerts contract was a great one in AAV, just not in length.
He’s a bulldog who wants to win, seemingly at all cost. Sign me up for Max!
The 10 plus years argument is a farce. Everyone knows half of those 10 years was a full year down and rebuild. Since we signed manny we e been in the hunt regularly.
@Vermonster But then we still only have 3 starting pitchers.
Get used to Valdez, Waldron and Brito.
Correction Vasquez.
I can read just fine, Dan. I’ve gotten much better at not believing everything I read nowadays.
I guess that explains why they haven’t done anything to address their noticeable roster gaps. Plenty of $ to spend just can’t figure out who to heap it onto. Or even better SD is just no place to raise your kids.
“Or even better SD is just no place to raise your kids.”
What?!?!? Lol
There’s 4 roster spots to roundout. If Roki is one, then you’ll see the other 3 sufficiently resolved.
“ Or even better SD is just no place to raise your kids.”
Well when you’re making 20 bucks an hour flipping burgers screwing up basic orders like you do FanDan SD certainly isn’t a place to raise kids. You can’t afford to live here let alone afford kids.
When you’re making 6 figure salaries like me and others. It’s a great place to raise my kids.
Sounds like FanDan made some poor choices in life and is jealous they can’t afford to live in SD. I hear Bakersfield is nice and cheap FanDan.
Dude. I was being sarcastic as to why the Padres haven’t signed or acquired anyone. People think it is all going to change magically. They haven’t been paying attention. There is a budget they are working to and they are over budget.
If SD traded with the Orioles, they would ask for Catcher/1B Samuel Basallo, RHSP Chayce McDermott and more
That’s more like it, SportsFan. I agree.
Dream on. O’s are not giving up that for a rental.
Then they’re not getting their ace from SD. Pretty simple.
O’s are probably still sore from giving up two of their better prospects/post-prospects for 1 year of Corbin Burnes only to get swept in the WC.
Which is why they are talking to Flaherty.
All he cost is money, and commitment.
5yr/$125MM+?? Jack is not even 30 but he’s got a back with a history…
Or you can re-rent an ace with an affordable Arb 3 #. There’s the quandary. I suspect they are gunshy on another rental plan. Who knows!
Or they could just pay $15M for one year of Scherzer and give up nothing until the deadline if they decide they need to add then. Several starters will be available then.
Players decide where to sign, just a friendly reminder. That being said, I would suspect BAL would be on Max’s shortlist, so very conceivable situation. And yes, the TDL looms as usual, and most teams would like to get there first before committing to enhancement… or seppuku. Cheers Dan
You have it all wrong. If the Padres get Sasaki then they will be going to a 6 man rotation and still need Cease. Besides which, they will then have a rotation to put up against any rotation in baseball.
No. The only way Cease is moved is if they don’t get Sasaki and some team gives up a huge package of players.
Padres would do well to keep Dylan cease and compete in 2025. Arraez is more expendable even if they get very little in return. If they trade Arraez, they could probably pick up one of Anthony Rizzo, Ty France or Donnie Barrels at one year/$2 million.
A player with a .370 OBP over the last 3 seasons is never expendable..
There is literally no reason the Padres would want any of those players.
In 2024, Cease had a 4.2 WAR, so my point is that he is much more valuable than Arraez who had a 1.0 WAR, which is what Donovan Solano (aka Donnie Barrels) had in 2024, a 1.0 WAR. Rizzo had a down year being injured. I do not know that the Padres actually want to get below the luxury tax threshold, but my point is if they do, they should keep Cease rather than Arraez. In fact, Solano had an OPS+ of 112 to Arraez of 106, and Solano an OPS of 0.760 to Arraez 0.739. Even 2024 OBP was 0.343 forSolano and 0.346 for Arraez and Solano had double the home runs in half the at-bats.
Cronenworth and Bogaerts are not movable without eating too much money better to take advantage of having them.
Arraez’s WAR was a function of what positions he played with the Padres. Look at his WAR the previous 2 seasons.
80% of the quality Milw got for Burnes rental?
Pads fans know better if that’s worth it relative to a comp pick.
Seems like they should go for WCard with him or trade him at deadline if the club is struggling.
Gotta think they can dump 10mil of Arraez salary-just don’t hold out for a prospect as far as shedding some payroll.
No point in trading for Arraez at all (or Cease for that matter) if they’re just going to trade them not even 365 days later.
How about Samuel Zavala, Jairo Iriarte, Drew Thorpe and Steven Wilson!?
Career ERA much closer to 4.00 than 3.00, a career WHIP 1.25…
Sure, he strikes out a lot of batters, but that is about all that you can say is in the SP Two range.
Cease has also been putrid with nearly a 13.00 playoff ERA.
A good mid-rotation starter, but he certainly should not command that much with only one year left on his contract at a bit below market value.
Dylan Cease over past 3 seasons
SO – #1 total and K/9
WAR – #5
ERA – #10
FIP – #7
IP – #10
He is the definition of an Ace.
Your jealousy is showing. But you do you Boo.
Do you remember how Cease pitched in the postseason?? From what I recall, it wasn’t that great. How one pitches in the postseason matters, and is what separates the boys from the men.
S.S.S.T.
Do you remember how Kershaw did in his 2 starts in 2009? How about 2014? How about 2018 WS and 2019 playoffs?
Do you remember how Tarik Skubal did in his 2 starts on 6/14 and 6/19 this season?
How about Chris Sale in his 1st two starts of June? Or Wheeler on June 6th and July 29th?
How a starting pitcher performs in one or two starts in the playoffs has no bearing on a player’s worth over a season. It is too small of a sample size.
Dylan cease to the orioles would give back basallo (solution at first base) and bradfield and mountcastle
Or Jordan westburg???
Bradfield is a maybe. But forget the rest you have here. They would not want to take on Mountcastles salary anyway. Defeats the purpose.
Basallo won’t be traded. Period. Bradfield will replace Mullins. Mountcastle, McDermott, Beavers and Fabian are all possibles. McDermott is no sure thing, but SD could view him as a younger Cease. If SD wants budget relief, a package of McDermott, Beavers and another prospect is something SD might accept.
Mountcastle will make around $6M. SD doesn’t want to pay that. Defeats the purpose of what they are trying to do. It will be prospects or pre-arb players.
Think Orioles would be better off keeping those dudes and signing Sasaki, Bauer or Scherzer.
Perfect world the Padres could get something like Kjersted & Rogers depth from Baltimore but would work in SD but odds are that won’t happen
Pads can still contend if they can unload Arraez and Suarez which would allow some cash to fill out roster. (Around 24 mill).. Would probably have to take very little in return unless they pay down some of Arraez.
If they trade Cease as well you are not looking at a viable path to a wildcard.
Bingo
Padres can’t contend if they give up those two.
Here is reality. The Padres are still a top 10 offensive team and have as good of a 1-3 in the rotation as anyone and a great bullpen.
They have two guys coming that will fill in nicely in LF Ornelas and IF Rosario. If you don’t know their names, you should look.
They need a catcher, a #4-#5 starter, and possibly a LF. That is it.
They have no need to trade Cease or Arraez or Suarez.
This is oddly familiar to this time last year when Jakob Marsee was your next great Pads OF.
The Pads will potentially not have payroll space available to them to plug all those holes. That’s why they’d look to move on from Arraez’s $16MM salary. But you know that.
Pads, it is Ryan. You have gotten really good at picking out his new names. Great job.
I don’t love the Burnes comp. Burnes had four straight top level years at the time of the trade. His last three years then were top 5 caliber. Cease had a monster 2022, terrible 2023, and very good 2024. He’s not consistent, and for a one year rental, that introduces more risk than came with Burnes. Even Cease’s performance last year was up and down month to month more than you’ll see with a traditional ace. Plus, he got rocked in the postseason afterward. He’ll bring back a lot, but Burnes has been a better pitcher by all measures.
Dylan Cease over past 3 seasons
SO – #1 total and K/9
WAR – #5
ERA – #10
FIP – #7
IP – #10
He is the definition of an Ace.
Nobody knows what the padres are going to do payroll wise. They seem to only be willing to trade cease or Arraez if someone overpays.
I think the Padres are waiting on Roki to decide. I’m sure Preller has a plan either way.
Lots of padres fans panicking over the lack of spending. Go look at what they did last year from this point on in the offseason.
The ownership drama may even lead to the team doing more to not lose fan support.
Time will tell, I have full confidence they will be a serious contender again next year.
Bingo!
The Bingo of optimism. Good for mental health.
Team is the 2010s Giants without the rings. Can only compete in even-numbered years.
Padres have no chance this year sell the team
Could’ve resigned Perez for a basket of warm biscuits
Or 2 fish tacos. Damn…
Padres 2025 moves:
Trade Dylan Cease to Mets for:
SS Jett Williams
2B/SS/OF Ronny Mauricio
RHP Jonah Tong
Trade Luis Arraez to Yankees for:
RHP Clarke Schmidt
Trade Xander Bogaerts and $72M over 9 years to Red Sox for:
1B Tristan Casas
Trade Jake Cronenworth to Guardians for:
C David Fry
Sign RHP Roki Sasaki
Sign LRP Tanner Scott 4yrs/$54M
Sign LF Jurickson Profar 3yrs/$36M
Sign LHP Jose Quintana 1yr/$13M
Sign INF Donovan Solano 1yr/5M
2025 starting lineup:
Jett Williams
Fernando Tatis
Jurickson Profar
Manny Machado
Jackson Merrill
David Fry
Tristan Casas
Luis Campusano
Eguy Rosario/Ronny Mauricio
$2025 starting rotation:
Michael King
Yu Darvish
Roki Sasaki
Jose Quintana
Clarke Schmidt
Lay off the booze
Living on a pink cloud
When the Red Sox came calling, the Padres asked for Mayer, Abreu, Fitts, and Gonzalez. Gonzalez was subsequently part of trade for Crochet.
So Preller wants
a top 10 overall type prospect,
a platoon OF,
a 5th starter,
and a MLB ready SP prospect.
Start your discussions there.
You have to remember it’s only for one season. Cease will get less in trade than what Burnes got.
That is what the Padres want for Cease. If another team wants him, they will give up a package similar to that.
The Orioles gave up two top 100 prospects and a back of the 1st round draft pick (#34) for one season of Burnes.
Padres were asking for 1 top 10 overall prospect, a LF that is a platoon player because he can’t hit LHP, a 5th-6th starting pitcher type, and a MLB ready SP prospect that was outside the Red Sox top 10 prospects. So that is about the same as what the Orioles gave up for Burnes.
You have to remember that this years market is different from last years market and Cease is making less than burnes was I believe.
I want a billion dollars and a unicorn…..
Cease will go for a little more than Burnes did last year IMO. Rationale behind that is that pitchers salaries have shot up significantly this offseason. (So much so that the Pads probably can’t get a reclamation project in Free agency for under $5-MM)
I think the likely scenario at this point is that the Pads will not have their legal dispute settled before opening day. It appears that AJP won’t have the capacity to greatly expand the payroll. How much he actually will have is tough to drill down on. But I’d be willing to bet that it’s not enough to plug all the holes using the FA market.
He’s dealt a ton of prospects away already. He’s a great scout and I believe he’ll find more in the draft/IFA market again but you only have so many to dish out at one time & he sent a bunch out last season.
It would not surprise me to see the Pads using an opener/bulk reliever strategy for one of the 2 open slots in the rotation if no major leaguers are dealt off the team.
I would think that with the inflation we have seen in pitcher salaries and trade costs this offseason, slightly more than the 2 Top 100 prospects and a #34 draft pick that the Brewers got for Burnes.
This. And cease is making less than burnes was.