The Tigers are adding to one of their primary strengths from the 2024 season, announcing the signing of veteran right-handed reliever Tommy Kahnle to a one-year, $7.75MM contract. Detroit designated Alex Faedo for assignment in a corresponding move. Kahnle is represented by the Ballengee Group.
Kahnle, 35, has been oft-injured in recent years but when healthy has been one of the top setup arms in the sport on a rate basis. He’s only pitched 97 frames dating back to 2020, but 83 of those innings have come over the past two seasons. And, since 2020, he touts a pristine 2.41 ERA with a 28% strikeout rate and 10.6% walk rate. He’s been placed into 38 save situations and tallied 32 holds and four saves along the way, only being saddled with two blown saves in that span.
Though Kahnle is right-handed, he carries neutral platoon splits because he possesses one of the game’s best changeups. That helps him mitigate damage against lefties, and the pitch is effective enough for him to use in right-on-right settings as well. He’s held fellow righties to a .206/.307/.343 slash in his career and seen lefties hit him at a similar .215/.295/.359 pace.
Because his changeup is so effective, Kahnle has taken the already frequent use of the pitch to new heights over the past three years. Since 2022, he’s thrown his changeup a comical 74.6% of the time on the mound. He famously threw 61 consecutive changeups as the Yankees progressed through the postseason this year. It’s hard to blame him for leaning on the pitch so heavily; opponents have slashed just .175/.236/.287 against Kahnle’s changeup in his career — including an even worse .157/.227/.264 slash in 2024.
Kahnle adds a seasoned setup arm to a Tigers relief corps on which manager A.J. Hinch leaned heavily down the stretch. Late in the season, Detroit was typically only using Tarik Skubal and Reese Olson as starters, following that duo with a series of bullpen games where any pitcher could be called upon at any time. The addition of Kahnle might add a bit more order and structure to what Hinch termed “pitching chaos.” Detroit doesn’t have a set closer at the moment, but Kahnle’s experience in high-leverage spots should put him in that mix along with Beau Brieske and Jason Foley, who paced the team with 28 saves in 2024.
With Kahnle, Brieske, Foley, Tyler Holton and Will Vest likely to handle late-inning work, the Tigers’ bullpen is largely taking shape. They’ll have Kenta Maeda in a long role as he looks to potentially pitch his way back into the rotation mix. Sean Guenther, Brenan Hanifee, Brant Hurter and former closer Alex Lange will be in the mix for innings as well.
The $7.75MM guarantee on Kahnle’s deal will take the Tigers to a payroll just shy of $119MM. That stands as an increase of roughly $15MM over the team’s 2024 levels but still sits nowhere close to the franchise-record $200MM mark reached under late owner Mike Ilitch (whose son, Chris, is now the team’s chairman and CEO).
The Tigers have recently been connected to seasoned late-inning relievers, specifically names with closing experience. They’ve also been prominently involved in third baseman Alex Bregman’s market. Given that interest, it would stand to reason there’s at least room for one more bullpen addition if the team prefers — the cost of Kahnle plus a second reliever would still fall well shy of even one year of Bregman’s salary — though it’s unclear whether the team has earmarked some potential funds for the longtime Houston third baseman or if the deal with Kahnle is the start of a pivot in a new direction.
The Tigers have added three free agents this offseason, though none has inked a deal longer than a year in length. Right-hander Alex Cobb and infielder Gleyber Torres both agreed to one-year deals with a $15MM guarantee.
Jon Heyman of the New York Post first reported the two sides were close to a deal. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic added that it’d be for one year. Robert Murray of FanSided reported the finalized agreement and the $7.75MM guarantee.
mlbnyyfan
Tommy you’re dead to me now. Good luck
AaronJudgeMVP29
WS G1 & 5?
Yankee Clipper
Whoa! Tommy change up?
He’s a good add for any team, and I really thought he would be back with the Yanks. Good luck Tommy…
mlbnyyfan
Cashman bring back Houdini!!! Let him retire a Yankee
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, always liked D-Rob. We really need a good lefty though. Cashman has not done well to rebalance the BP yet.
MrMet1979 2
Robertson can pitch to lefties and righties though
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, that’s true because of his cutter…. I still think they need to add another LH guy though.
Salzilla
Yes, but he’d be a luxury and not a need right now. I think they’d rather have a pure lefty.
Salzilla
You know, for some reason I thought Houdini was Yates, but it’s D-Rob, and yet my answer is still the sane we need LEFTIES not righties.
Unclemike1526
I have always liked Kahnle. If the guy can stay healthy, Tigers got a steal here.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@salx
I think you have to look at it differently. We don’t necessarily need a lefty, but instead, we need a pitcher who can get lefties out. Drob can domm k relief pitcher to face at least 3 batters per appearance so the days of why
KnicksFanCavsFan
@salx
I think you have to look at it differently. We don’t necessarily need a lefty, but instead, we need a pitcher who can get lefties out. Drob can do both. He has a .667 OPS vs. righties and. 551 vs. lefties. Add to the new rule that says a reliever must pitch to at least 3 batters per appearance, then teams really can’t depend on lefty specialists like they did in the past.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I disagree. The Yankees need a lefty in their bullpen.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Yankees
What’s there to disagree with? Tanner Scott, perhaps the best lefty in the market has a .603 vs lefties for his career. Drob has a .571. The days of lefty specials are brought in just 1 lefty are done with. to I The 3 batter rule makes it too difficult to use the specialist to face 1 guy.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Facing one guy to get an out ending a potential opposing teams’ rally means winning games. There are many high-leverage situations in a season where using a lefty with hitter platoon splits to get that first and/or second out are advantageous and beneficial.
Unclemike1526
If you need a LHP call Hoyer. he’s stockpiling them.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Yankee
Maybe you’re missing my point. It doesn’t matter if you’re a right or a lefty just how do you hate vs. a lefty. Drob is very effective vs. righties, but historically, he’s always been better vs. lefties. In a career, that’s what, 15+ years his CAREER split vs. lefties shows a .571 OPS against. That’s freaking amazing, and because he had to pick to at least 3 batters because of the new rule them you can leave him in because his OPS vs. righties is like .667, which is also amazing.
Drob would be a great addition of they can’t find the right lefty RP before the start of the season.
Unclemike1526
The fact is you already have a guy who gets Lefties out on a regular basis if Boone is smart enough to use him right. Mark Leiter Jr. His splitter gets Lefties out on a regular basis. Another questionable Hoyer trade IMO.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Unc
The Yanks are pretty good using advanced analytics. I think they probably know what they have, which is why they aren’t panicking right now.
AaronJudgeMVP29
GL Tommy in the Motor City. You were a nice RP here.
ron_karate
Well, that’s a change.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I wonder if Mrs. I knows, she got a reputation…..
Poor rich girl.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Congratulations, Tommy Kahnle!
Cash-Man-NY
Jon Heyman ……… possible red Flag alert
tom brunanskys black sock
Proud Shaker High School alumni.
Joe It All
When Kahnle was a senior Jeff Hoffman was a freshman at Shaker High. Pretty cool to have two mlb pitchers enrolled at the same time.
mlb fan
Best change up I’ve ever seen. You know it’s coming but you still cannot hit it.
Acoss1331
Kyle Hendricks threw a pretty good change-up when he was pitching great for the Cubs, but yeah Tommy is basically a one-pitch dude and it’s nasty.
Hard to walk with four balls
Fernando Rodney had one hell of a changeup too
Mynameisnoname
Is it a still a change-up when you throw 27 of them in a row?
I think at that point it becomes a screwball by default.
Acoss1331
Devin Williams basically throws a screwball no?
YankeesBleacherCreature
It was analyzed during last postseason. Based on its release point. velo, spin, and vertical-plane movement, it is technically a change-up.
avenger65
A screwball is a reverse curve ball. It also leads to elbow injuries faster than any other pitch, which is why it, along with the knuckle ball, is a dinosaur.
whyhayzee
Thrown correctly it actually utilizes a more natural arm motion than a curve or slider. End with your thumb down as opposed to thumb up. The problem is in getting enough rotation. That’s where you lose some velocity and stress the arm. The change up also ends with the thumb down. It allows the change up to have similar motion as the screwball with less stress.
Dorothy_Mantooth
With his injury history, I wonder how much he will make. Something like a $6M base with up to $2M in incentives for IP would seem to be reasonable, but with the high cost of late inning relievers this year, perhaps he could earn even more.
For Love of the Game
I was thinking something in the $6-$8 mill. range too. That the cheap Tigers signed him tells me he probably won’t get crazy money.
NerdPowahh
So, the Tigers are cheap now?
Wait until they appease you by giving Bregman $200 million over six years. Just so he can hang out with Javy Baez in the dugout.
Kyle 12
Of course the Tigers aren’t cheap. They have one of the 26 highest payrolls in baseball! Now the other 4 teams; those guys are cheap.
SuperSloth
Yeah, they’re cheap. Watched Scott Harris and AJ Hinch sit there with crap eating grins on their faces last year when they had the end of the season press conference. When asked if Harris had the financial backing of Illich to make a move on a difference making player, he replied that he would have to make the case, but if he could show Illich there was one, he would have the backing. So, are you saying there wasn’t ONE this offseason that would be a difference maker? If Harris didn’t see one, then I question his ability to identify players. On the other hand, if he has identified such players and went to Illich and was turned down, then YES, they are being cheap. Which do you think is more likely, because I believe it’s the latter rather than the former. It’s not like the Tigers have even been seriously in on any of the major free agents.
For Love of the Game
I agree that it is more likely the latter than the former. However, I also think Scott Harris is the POBO Chris Illitch wants – a guy who likes bargains (I like bargains, too, but I also expect to pay up for quality.)
tigerdoc616
I guess Bregman isn’t a major free agent then. No one has signed Bregman yet, he and his agent Bora$$ are playing hardball. But I suppose you’d be fine if the Tigers caved and gave him the $200M he is asking? No, you’d be like most fans who want a signing and when there is one, would crap on it saying the guy stinks, that the contract won’t age well, or it is an overpay. But when Harris is exercising caution by not overpaying, then the Tigers are cheap. Well guess what, Detroit isn’t that desirable of a location to free agents. Tigers generally have to overpay to get guys to come here. Harris is being patient on Bregman because he is the only difference maker on the market that we can even consider affording. Others were too expensive (Soto) or poor fits for the current roster. Trying to not overpay too much.
And let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Ilitch says no. Why is that being cheap? Do you know what the team can and cannot spend? Do you have access to the books? Of course not. You just assume that the Tigers have the money and should spend it. Or maybe you don’t care and expect the TIgers to spend family money on the team like Mike did. Well, that is not a realistic expectation.
BadMojo
The sun will turn into a red giant and wipe out life on the planet before the Tigers pay for Bregman.
BadMojo
The Tigers are cheap and Illitch is the worst owner in all of sports. Deal with it.
SuperSloth
Houston has a standing offer out to Bregman of 6-156. You think if Detroit waits long enough he’ll accept a deal of 3-60 with that out there for him? Keep dreaming. You don’t know anything about me, so assuming I will say the contract was an overpay is absurd. You then turn around and say I shouldn’t assume what they have to spend. I guarantee you they can support closer to 150 million a season. When the team is good, fans cram that stadium. They are in the 8th largest market in MLB, so give me a break. There were multiple difference makers on the market they could have afforded when Free Agency began. They could have afforded Adames’ contract. It would have meant moving him to Second base, and since they already moved Colt Keith to first, having him there wasn’t a deal breaker. They could have afforded Santander’s deal as well. Sliding Carpenter to DH full time, which they will most likely have him play at least half the time this year could easily have done. Those two were just off the top of my head without looking back. Both would have added some beef to a lineup that otherwise has punch and judy’s up and down it.
Tigers Fan 55
Just adding on because you have a good summary.
The tigers lost 26m in 2023 payroll was 151=125 is break even. and made 17m in profit in 2024 with 106m with break even at 133m.
People need to understand the Tigers are not the Yankees or dodgers. They can not sustain a 200m+ payroll. 120-140m is breaking even and where expected payroll will be long term.
Tigers Fan 55
123m** for 2024
Tigers Fan 55
MLB revenue sharing has detroit as the 20th market, but this random dude says we’re 8th. :/
Beldar J. Conehead
The Ilitch family is only worth $2.3 billion and can’t really afford to waste money on trying to put a contending team on the field.
Motor City Beach Bum
Last time I checked they were still in on Bregman. The offseason isn’t over yet.
Airo13
People forget that Mike Illitch was cheap with the tigers for like 10 years. I have no reason to believe that Chris won’t spend when it makes sense. He already did once with Javy and E-Rod…backfired, but I don’t think the tigers are inherently cheap.
Kyle 12
How does it not make sense to spend now? They were a game away from the ALCS last year, one of the lowest team payrolls in baseball, with essentially no long term money on the books, and clear holes on the roster that need to be filled. When exactly is the right time?
SuperSloth
No, we shouldn’t think like that, Kyle. Tigerdoc thinks we’re foolish, head strong fans.
Motor City Beach Bum
Kyle…i agree they should spend now but only on players that are the right fit for the team (position, age, total and length of contract). Flaherty makes sense but Bregman with his current demands doesn’t. Too bad they missed on Kim.
Big Hurt
I see a lot of “change up” jokes, and rightly so. However, Kahnle’s transformation is pretty fascinating. In the 2017 when he had a terrific year for the Sox (striking out 60 in 38 innings before being traded), he had a 98 mph 4 seamer that he threw 65% of the time.
Now, his fastball is closer to 95, so he throws 75% change-ups. Pretty cool – although I don’t understand how big leagues can’t hit a pitch they know is coming, must hide it extremely well.
stymeedone
Movement and location.
JackStrawb
It must look like the German chocolate cake at an Overeaters Anon picnic.
Jubilation
When healthy this is a great signing for Detroit.
It was Skubal and Montero down the stretch. Olson was on the IL.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
I wish he and the Yankees could’ve worked something out. I really thought 2 years/$12M would’ve gotten it done.
I genuinely wish Kahnle the best of luck, he was one of my favorite Yankees.
I hope he over performs and gets like 2 years/$18M or 3 years/$30M out of this for a total of like 4 years/$38.5M or something.
JackStrawb
Cashman looked at his FIP for the last 3 years. I think that’s as deep as Cashman digs.
frankiegxiii
I’m confused, I’m at work and don’t really have time to think about this, but how did he only convert four saves out of 38 save situations?
kylek58
A technical save situation doesn’t have to be in the 9th inning. Any pitcher that comes in after the starter with at least a 3 run lead at that point is considered a save situation. He just didn’t finish the game all 38 of those situations
SuperSloth
I’m sorry, but this offseason has been frustrating to be a Tigers fan. They are in contention mode yet Harris is making signings like they are in a rebuild. No long term deals, nibbling around the edges of the Free Agent market on players who, if they end up playing well, can be flipped at or before the trade deadline. I’m not saying selling the farm to sign guys but there were several players who could have helped this team make the next step, at least offensively, who they have refused to bring in. Right now, who scares anyone in their lineup? No one opposing teams have to pitch around. Not sure Bregman is that guy, but he at least gives teams pause while bringing in a winning pedigree into the clubhouse. It’s like they are still nervous from the Baez contract and don’t want to spend money on long term deals. Yeah, Harris put together the team that went on a run last season, but to realistically believe they can repeat the hot streak to end the season, in combination with Minnesota’s collapse which gave them the opportunity to sneak into the playoffs, is fool hardy. Can anyone say this team as currently constructed is better than last year? Betting on the young guys taking another step in their development when all you have are young players, isn’t a strategy, it’s just hoping.
craf1
I agree. Basically, the same team as last year. .500 team at Best as it is at the moment. Disappointing this far
NerdPowahh
MLB is a broken sport unless your team resides in New York, Boston or Los Angeles.
But have no fear. Rob Manfred will be incorporating more playoff teams in the next few years to give the illusion that everyone has a chance.
Hammerin' Hank
Well, I guess it was also a broken sport from 1923 to 1964 when the Yankees were totally dominating everything. Oh wait, it was the most popular sport in America then.
Beldar J. Conehead
Yeah, give the $120-150MM teams with a slightly over .500 record a shot at the World Series while the $350-400MM teams sign all the top players and win 100 games.
tigerdoc616
Refused to bring in? This isn’t fantasy baseball where you can just pick a guy and he is yours. Players have preferences. Honestly, I don’t see that many guys on this market that would have been a good fit for the team. Bregman is the best fit from a hitter standpoint and a fit for the team’s current needs. But he and his agent are stringing this out. That is not Harris’s fault unless you expect him to just give him the $200M he asks.
Regardless of fit, again players have preferences. Tigers were rumored to be in on a lot of different players this off season. Very well many of these players simply said no to the Tigers. Maybe Bregman doesn’t want to come here and is only using the Tigers as leverage to get a better deal out of another team. And you are dead wrong on player development isn’t a strategy. Tigers do not have the financial resources to compete with the big boys, and maybe not even the medium boys. The only way they are going to be competitive is to be good at drafting and developing their own players, and from time to time augmenting those players with free agent signings. Tigers are one of the teams that does spend annually on free agents even if it isn’t at the top of the market.
warnbeeb
We will see on opening weekend which approach works. The Tigers open at Dodger Stadium. I could see Skubal, Olson and Jobe (maybe Cobb, as he has a lot of experience vs. L.A.) being tossed at them. .
Tigers see Snell, Yamamoto and either Ohtani or Glasnow that weekend.
It might end up a battle of the bullpens.
Avory
@SuperSloth
The dumbest mistake a team can make is thinking that a long-term 9-figure deal for a guy like Bregman provides enough marginal return to turn an average team into a real contender. Much more often than not, the performance doesn’t move the needle, the contract becomes an impediment to other, smarter moves, or evolves into an anchor like the Javy Baez situation. If the Tigers sign Bregman, it only proves the new regime isn’t as clever as it thinks it is. Conversely, if the Tigers ignore impatient fans and tell Bregman to take a hike with his ridiculous demands, then (as a fan of an AL Central rival) I’ll become concerned, because it will indicate that Scott Harris and his brain trust know what they’re doing, making Detroit much more formidable. Me, I’m rooting hard for the Tigers to give Bregman what he wants, please.
warnbeeb
As a Tiger fan I agree with you 100% and hope the Tigers pass (I’m pretty sure they will) on Bregman.
stymeedone
As a Tiger fan, I hope they can sign him to a reasonable contract. Bregman is currently the best fit for the needs of the team. Sometimes there is a move to be made that you just need to make. Unfortunately, I, too, think Bregman is just using Detroit for leverage. At this late date, I’d rather see them sign Flaherty.
warnbeeb
I agree and disagree. The Tigers are trying to build from within and not saddle themselves with any long term deals…besides to their guys. If Skubal has another big year, I do think the Tigers will make him the highest paid pitcher in MLB history.
Avory
Well, that would be kind of silly, wouldn’t it? If you’re bound and determined to make Skubal the “highest paid pitcher in MLB history” make him prove he’s worth it in BOTH 2025 and 2026. See if the performance and his arm holds up.
Me, I’m not making a pitcher in his age 30 season the highest paid pitcher in MLB history, but it you still think he’s worth it after 2026, just outbid everyone else on the planet for his services. It would be pretty ridiculous, but I’d love to see the Tigers do it (as a fan of another AL Central team).
dsett75
I’d rather they took the Bregman money and got Grichuk and Flaherty personally
The Saber-toothed Superfife
? I really don’t understand why people put in the terms of a “hot streak” and a “collapse”.
The Tigers played the tougher teams earlier in the season, the same teams Minnesota played towards the end of the season.
The Tigers played the easier teams at the end of the season that the Twins had already played.
It was just a factor of the schedule and easily predictable.
The was NO HINCHIEPOO super-magic or victory by “pitching chaos” super-strategy. It was just the schedule, plain and simple.
The Chisox were also a MAJOR FACTOR.
Pre-dict-able
The Saber-toothed Superfife
And some of those games…were pretty damsel in distress close…..
warnbeeb
Tell that to the Orioles.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I’m not saying the team didn’t do a good job.
Avory
Speaking as a CLE fan, anyone who thinks any of the teams in the AL Central are comfortably in the ranks of contenders is delusional. There are no “magic moves” which catapult any of them into sure playoff status, much less favorite status. Too many weaknesses, too much uncertainty, too much dependence on good health and the continued weakness of the White Sox. Lots of things have to go right for any of them, although it seems to me the path of least resistance is Minnesota’s. Should that rotation and lineup remain healthy, the Twins are easily the most talented of the bunch.
Tigersfan82
Nobody knows whats gonna happen in any given season.some people just have a need to make predictions,Predictions mean nothing,
Tigersfan82
Tigers did not play just easy teams at end that is incorrect.And discounting what Hinch did with his bullpen is so wrong.Your whole theory about schedule i don’t buy.Tigers needed one of the teams to totally collapse Twins obliged plus they had miracle finish,Anybody trying to take away what the Tigers did are so wrong and why anyone who wouldn’t want to give them credit makes no sense,
Avory
It isn’t a matter of “not giving them credit.” What they did last year was incredible. It just doesn’t have any bearing on the upcoming year. At all.
Tigersfan82
I agree with you there i have no idea what to expect in 2025.i’m afraid of a repeat of last years anemic offence.if it hasn’t improved they definetly are in big trouble.i just hope they are competive.
Motor City Beach Bum
Carp and Greene are studs. Carp had an elite OPS and Greene wasn’t far behind. On top of that there is bound to be improvement from their d listing lineup.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
That’s why I advocate for shaking things up. One guys hits .280 and another over 20 hrs….fans are thrilled. .250 and under 20 is not making a dynasty. They can make a lot of trades, take on contracts and sign reasonable, honest FA contracts. Thenmake more trades.
They need to invest at least something to compete with the behemoths.
They already should have space on the 40.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I don’t disparage the accomplishment.
You can check the comments here on Tiger articles prior to it happening.
It began with me being told what an idiot I am and ended with me stating I am ready to hear the Tigers offer to hire the Superfife.
We miss Al. Poor Al,scapegoat. There was.nothing to do at the time. I like Al too.
Tigersfan82
Superfife did you say earlier you were Guardians fan or am i confusing you with somwonw else,it was cool Central division had 3 teams in post season last year after being the laughin stock division for many years,
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I’ve never heard of a Saber-Toothed Gaurdian before……
Saber-toothed cats, also known as saber-toothed tigers, used their long, sword-like teeth to hunt large, slow-moving animals. They were the top predator of the prehistoric world.
So…technically, Harris should have been eaten alive aleady…..
Tigersfan82
That is true.i think my brain isn’t at full function at the moment i should of noticed also Tiger in your pic as well 🙂
Tigersfan82
Harris is not the guy that brought most of the current players into Tigers organization it was Al Avila.Harris is only responsible for a few.Also it was Avila who brought in Hinch,
Motor City Beach Bum
Not everything Al did was bad. He made some very good moves in his time.
Tigersfan82
I agree that’s why i pointed it out.Lot of fans treated him like garbage.They blamed him for everything he didn’t get any credit.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
If Al is bored, they should hire him back in some capacity or another.
Tigersfan82
I don’t want him back i just didn’t like how the fans treated him that’s all..Like it was all his fault the Tigers sucked for so long,There a certain segment of Tigers fanbase who are pretty hateful.Most of the years Avilla was in control he had dirty job of dismantling the team,To me the worst mistake owner did was letting Dombrowski leave.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I posted stuff about him, because quite frankly, there was not much else to do. Most of it, tongue in cheek. Tried to give him credit for the good, wondered about some stuff. We all knew it was a rebuild. I thought Illich would stick with him. I like Al but if you tanked me up – the writer character, vantage point, might have me saying the opposite. I was sad when he was scapegoated.
JackStrawb
@SuperSloth When you only have two guys who hit much over a 100 OPS+, have a collective 94 OPS+, win 86 anyway and don’t really add on the offensive side… that’s just sad—as was running Baez out there for 289 PA when they had Andy Ibanez et al.
Motor City Beach Bum
Carpenter had an elite OPS and so did Greene. They have players who produced and when the two of them came back from injury the team went on a run. They also have some good young players such as Keith, Meadows, Dingler, Jung, Malloy and Sweeney who got their feet wet and should take a step forward. A lot of the improvement has to come internally.
Tork should be traded or at least AAA bound and Baez sucks and should be cut along with Maeda unless they are lights out in spring training.
Torres bat was a nice add. Another proven middle of the order bat to support Greene and Carp would have been great, but it doesn’t seem like they will be stupid and give Bregman what he wants, which I think is smart . They were pretty full in the outfield and at DH so that was not as easy a fit as 3B, where there are no clear replacements in the minors.
wilhar8
Cashman is too focused on trading Stroman and not on making the Yankees better.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@wilhar
they’ve done a ton of heavy lifting already, and aside from the Dodgers, and maybe the Cubs have been the busiest team this off-season. That being said they are up against the $300 mil threshold and I think they’d like to unload Stroman and then re-use that money to address the last two areas of improvement, 2b/3b and a lefty out the pen.
wilhar8
No doubt they’ve done a lot, but we still need to replace Torres, a backup catcher and a lefty (or someone who can out left-handed hitters) in the bullpen.
t0bIe1CaN0bI
Wow, cool! Just goes to show that anything can happen… might as well try him at closer. Now Flaherty and Alonzo on 2 yr deals and we should be set.
stymeedone
Alonso doesn’t fit. Keith at 1B, and Carpenter at DH. Don’t bench the core players.
t0bIe1CaN0bI
Hmm? Move Torres to short. Jung/Veirling 3b.
tigerdoc616
Solid signing for the Tigers. 1 WAR is generally been worth about $8-10M/yr and Kahnle has posted 1.1 and 0.8 WAR (Per BR) the past two seasons. So $7.75M seems about right.
Captainmike1
I think the world has converted to Monopoly money
Lots of people can’t afford to pay their rent
Avory
@tigerdoc616
That’s baloney. I can’t believe fans actually fall for that $$/WAR calculation. Are you a player agent? His “worth” is an artifice; it’s propped up by limited free agency. Do you know what Kahnle’s worth would be were EVERY player available in free agency? A helluva lot less than $8 million, I can tell you that.
For Love of the Game
Dead wrong, Avory. If every player were auctioned off to the highest bidder, you’d have even higher salaries than now as everyone tried to remake their rosters.
Avory
That is HILARIOUS. The sole reason salaries are so high for free agents is because there are so few of them. If every player was a free agent at the same time, wages would drop precipitously for the vast majority of players and anybody with any sense of economic education knows this to be true.
gotigers68
Yippee.
detigs6884
Nice signing for Detroit.
Captainmike1
ERA is not a reliable stat for a relief pitcher
I really wish we would move onto a valuable stat
How many inherited runners did the reliever allow to score
That is what they are paid for, to stop inherited runners from scoring
But inherited runners are charged to the pitcher that put them on base
JackStrawb
Oh, no. Clutchiness is not a thing.
warnbeeb
The Tigers also have Brendan White coming off an injury year as a relief option.
dkhits20
This is the swing-and-miss guy the Tigers bullpen needed. If he stays healthy, this will be a great value too. IF.
ThonolansGhost
Another good move by the Tigers. Now, if they can just get Ha-Seong Lee…
ThonolansGhost
Sorry. I meant Ha-Seong Kim, and I see he’s no longer available.
GarryHarris
An acquisition made for the trade deadline
Motor City Beach Bum
For the playoffs. Building a better pen than Cleveland.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Take on E Pagan, get Duno.
Tom the ray fan
Change up King
Fernando P
Good luck to Tommy. Funny guy, solid teammate and good pitcher when he’s healthy. Makes sense Yankees didn’t want to pay 7.75M for 40 innings.
They need to add a lefty (Tim Hill, Chafin, Danny Coulombe).
MPrck
Detroit works the pen very hard so he’ll earn his pay raise. One year deals are fantastic. GO TIGERS !
Jubilation
As to the Tigers being cheap. Bregman is entering his age 30 or 31 season. He posted his career worst in BB%. His power is average.. A lot of his value is his defense at 3b. I would be very leery of going over 3-4 years on him. Certainly not the 5-6 years he seems to be wanting.
Kim, pending his medicals of course, would be an ideal option, He could play 2b/3b/ss and give the Tigers a lot of protection should Sweeney prove to not hit enough..
Outside of that Flaherty would be great. I like Cobb but not as a #2.
Motor City Beach Bum
Kim would have been a better add than Bregman but he’s gone now. You are bang on with Flaherty.
JackStrawb
Bregman’s in his age 31 season, and is the opposite of the kind of player the Tigers should be signing. With his decline since 2022 and at 33m a year he could kill the team for five years give what appears to be their financial limitations.
Kim’s the kind of gamble they should be making.
A's lover
At least it clarifies their strategy, and it makes sense now why they didn’t sign a couple more starting pitchers . They now have five late inning guys in the bullpen, which means they have several other guys (who can shuffle back-and-forth between Toledo) to do the opener – bulk routine that was so successful for them last year.
My prediction: Skubal, Olson, Cobb, and possibly Casey Mize will be the only traditional starting pitchers in April. Jobe will come up later. Maeda, Montero, Hanifee, Hurter, Guenther, Lange, (and maybe Brieske) will do the opener-bulk dance. And then every, game they’ll have the other five as late-inning guys. It gives them tons of flexibility, they can go to a six-man rotation when it makes sense, lets them use all of that pitching depth which is probably the biggest team strength, etc.. I like it.
Motor City Beach Bum
I like it! Now spend the rest of your cash on a bat and do it quick since in of your backup plans in Kim just signed with TB. Go get Flaherty too!
Dtownwarrior78
Love this signing, and what he will bring to the BP. From reading up top from fellow Tigers fans, I am totally against giving into Bregman and giving him the long contract that he is asking for. His stats are already on the decline, and last time I checked they RARELY improve more as you go along into your mid-30s! Yes, he would be a fantastic addition to this young core of players. And someone of his pedigree is needed for this club right now. But NOT AT THIS PRICE! Would we be better with him at 3rd this year rather than a combo of Vierling and company? Absolutely, we would. But this contract will be an albatross by the middle of it, and we don’t need that. Just an opinion, but I’d rather see what we have with Jung and if it blows up on us this year, then we look for trades or FA signings next offseason.
84LeFlore
I agree. I wish the Mets or Astros or Jays would hurry up and sign him so the Tigers can’t. Being saddled w/another eternal contract worries me more than Bregman’s short-term impact excites me.
JackStrawb
You never sign an expensive 31 year old for the nominal upgrade over a 3 win arb-1 player.
christaylormvp
OH MAN KAHNLE TO THE TIGERS
THIS SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN
MLB SUCKS AND IM NOT WATCHING ANYMORE
HOW MUCH IS DEFERRED
DODGERS RUINED BASEBALL