As the offseason continues, here are three things we’ll be keeping an eye on around the baseball world today:
1. Teams weighing trades of bonus pool money?
Yesterday, the Giants made two trades to pick up additional international bonus pool money. In doing so, they shipped out catcher Blake Sabol to the Red Sox and righty Will Kempner to the Marlins. More teams could follow suit in that regard, as both the Dodgers and Padres are in the market to add additional funds to their bonus pools amid their respective pursuits of NPB right-hander Roki Sasaki. Those clubs aren’t likely to be alone in the looking to make deals involving bonus pool space. Sasaki’s presence on the market has caused the Dodgers to allow several committed players to look elsewhere, while the Padres have been holding off on finalizing deals in anticipation of Sasaki’s decision. The Dodgers, Friars and Jays have all held off on finalizing deals with international prospects as of yet, as have several other clubs. Even teams that aren’t finalists for Sasaki might be cagey with finalizing deals, knowing that they could have the ability to trade for some extra bonus space and scoop up a prospect who’d been gearing up to sign with L.A., San Diego or Toronto.
2. Potential movement on the infield market:
There’s been some movement on the infield market since the calendar flipped to January, kicked off by Josh Rojas signing with the White Sox on Jan. 2. Since then, Amed Rosario and Donovan Solano have landed deals in D.C. and Seattle, respectively, while Thairo Estrada finalized his December agreement to sign in Colorado. That movement has left relatively few bench players still available on the infield with Whit Merrifield, Jose Iglesias, and Paul DeJong among the most notable options available. Meanwhile, the infield market’s rumors have primarily been focused at the top of the market where there’s been plenty of buzz about the markets of both first basemen Pete Alonso and third basemen Alex Bregman in recent days. With rumors churning at the top of the market and a number of lower-level signings occurring in recent weeks, could more deals be on the horizon?
3. Will Sasaki spur movement in the rotation market?
Aside from an occasional one-year deal for a veteran arm like Justin Verlander or Charlie Morton, the rotation market has quieted in the aftermath of right-hander Corbin Burnes signing late last month. Jack Flaherty, Nick Pivetta, Max Scherzer, Andrew Heaney and Jose Quintana are among the quality veterans who still remain available in free agency. Luis Castillo and Dylan Cease have seen their names come up in trade rumors, but there’s been seemingly little movement on those markets in the New Year. One potential wrinkle in the market is Sasaki, particularly since the Padres could feel more comfortable dealing from the rotation were he to land in San Diego. Other clubs like the Mariners, Cubs, Yankees and Rangers were at least loosely involved in his market until recently and may have been holding off on significant decisions while waiting on a resolution to his free agency. Those clubs, now informed that they’re out of the running, will have to turn to alternative plans. With a decision looming from Sasaki, could the wider market start to move again in the coming days?
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Sasaki is signing with the Jays.
jaysfansince1977
I agree, but i think we are a small minority on a lot of sites!!!
sfes
After all this, that would be some coup for you guys.
danumd87 2
Only because nobody wants the jays money. Even when they finally landed a legit free agent in Hoffman they were his third choice. They can’t even sign free agents right! It’d be shocking if he chose them given the state of the franchise.
bigdaddyt
I want a huge press conference where they go hey guys want to introduce some guys to yall. Shatkins then opens the press conference door and out pops Sasaki. “But wait there’s more” out comes Boras leading Bregman and Alonso holding hands and Santander slowly coming out after them.
Then out comes Vlad with a 400+ million dollar contract.
How to sell out a stadium 101
KnicksFanCavsFan
@big
$400? I think Vlad will try and get $500 as a starting point.
Digdugler
no. Maybe if he goes to FA and its the Mets that outbid themselves.
bigdaddyt
That’s why I put the + the 4 is just the first number I’m sure it will be closer to 5
jaysfansince1977
On the extension side with the Blue Jays by all reports i have read the Jays offered 350 and Vlad said they were low by 100 mil, so his ask price seems to be 450 Mil as far as i know there has been no reports on the length of said offer or the years Vlad wants.
bigdaddyt
Last report was 3 different contracts with varying lengths, opt outs and deferred money. Just cause Vlad is asking 450 doesn’t mean he won’t settle for low 4s
jaysfansince1977
I agree he could easily accept a lower offer but i do wonder what length he is asking for, like does he want a higher AAV or a longer contract ie 50 mil over 8 years or 40 mil over 10 years sort of thing???
O'sSayCanYouSee
big — Pretty sure the 700 million number of Soto applies directly to Vlad Jr.; Wunderkinds that were up in the majors before 21 and elite offensive profiles.
Vlad Jr. gets Soto money imo.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
No one is paying an overweight first baseman, who doesn’t have anywhere close to the offensive profile as Soto, Soto money
bigdaddyt
Vlad is Thicc he isn’t prince fielder, Miguel Sano or Sandoval as people first thought he’s done a good job the last few years dropping fat and putting on muscle.
danumd87 2
I agree. He hasn’t had the career that Soto has.
O'sSayCanYouSee
Mystery — You’re either overestimating Soto, or underestimating Vlad Jr.. 26 yo free agents have repeatedly moved the dollar values up.
Manny Machado and Bryce Harper both 26yo free agents got 300 million. Then Soto gets 700 mill 5 years later.
Just saying …what people thought they were worth, and what they ended up being worth was more than anyone thought at the time they became free agents.
Lots of “they ain’t gonna get that money” chatter preceded all of those signings. If history is a guide, it’ll be more money then we think at this moment for Vlad.
Why wouldn’t his agent ask for more than Soto? (But nobody will pay it!!)…yet they do pay it.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Not even a little bit
Vlad 863 career ops. 137 ops+
Soto. 953. Career ops. 160 ops+
Vlad had a OPS over 850 twice in his career, Sotk has never been less than that. But yeah Vlad and Soto are on the same level. Soto has a World Series ring plus another World Series appearance.
No idea what free agency from 5 years ago has to do with Soto and Vlad not being similar players
O'sSayCanYouSee
Mystery — I get you point that Soto is better, but to say Vlad Jr isn’t also elite is rash. (Apples to apples through their first 5 years)
Vlad Jr : 21.5 WAR / 137 ops+ / .863 career ops
Soto : 28.5 WAR / 157 ops+ / .946 career ops
Vlad actually has more Hits than Soto too (whatever that stat means in today’s world) and Statcast puts both of them in Elite offensive %.
But my whole point isn’t what their are worth but what the market will pay them. And 26 yo, elite offensive FA’s have beaten predictions of the contract terms repeatedly and consistently.
Nothing controversial about that.
Gwynning
Not trying to sound like a jerk here, but if that’s the ask then Vlad already looks like an albatross…
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Vlad Jr had not been elite in his overall career and that is not a rash statement. He has had 1 elite season so far in his career in 2021, and I would be willing to concede that last year was Elite, yet he was still 5th in the American League in OPS. So 2 elite seasons out of 6, with zero consistency.
C-Daddy
I like this idea, though it would be even better if all those guys emerged from a giant cake.
BobinTexas
Roki is fully in control of the entire market until he signs. It is fun to watch.
deweybelongsinthehall
Not really. I’m shocked that Iglesias hasn’t been signed. He is not going to break the bank and again proved last season how valuable he is both on the field and in the clubhouse. I wanted him back in Boston the last two years after his short return in 22.
deweybelongsinthehall
In retrospect, I realize you meant the starting market and not the actual entire market.
deweybelongsinthehall
Note to MLBTR: Why not put a two minute delay on new posts from actually posting and allow up to ninety seconds for editing submitted posts? I don’t think it would alter much but for eliminating the subsequent posts correcting for typos or like I just did. It would also remove some of those exchanges on English grammar.
highflyballintorightfield
Do you mean when posting comments? Website gives you 5 minutes to edit your post as long as you don’t leave the page.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Sometimes you leave accidentally or click a player link, and when you come back to the page it’s covered by a full page ad, and the comment section is closed. So impossible to edit
paddyo furnichuh
@highfly….Indeed it does, it seems Dewey is suggesting that for the iPhone/droid app
deweybelongsinthehall
highfly,are you on a computer? I do mine only on a phone app and there is no delay or chance to update or correct.
deweybelongsinthehall
Paddyo, yep, I just responded.
freddiemeetgibby
The whole market! That’s why I can’t buy eggs
runbailey
With Roki becoming the keystone domino, it appears that the MLB process needs some retooling.
Bryc3 Harp3r
How so? He’ll be signed weeks before spring training which allows plenty of time for clubs to execute plan B, or C. Half of the top 50 have already signed, and Sasaki isn’t holding up the hitting market in the slightest. Only guys who are currently affected are Flaherty and Pivetta, maybe Scherzer.
Salzilla
Sasaki shouldn’t be holding anyone up other than the three teams remaining. He’s not getting any sort of money of significance right now either so the line of thought that he’s holding up the market is clickbait.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
There are literally international prospects that had commitments from all 3 of the remaining teams. 3 of them have already left the Dodgers. All those players will now have to hope another team has the space and similar money to sign them. And for most of these kids it will probably be the only major contract they ever sign
deweybelongsinthehall
Mystery, some have signed for more but if there is an oral agreement and they don’t sign or do so with another club, they should still be paid the full original amount unless they can also use that agreement as leverage and try to negotiate with another club for more.
rangers13
I believe the Rangers still need to add one starter, Cease perhaps and they still need a closer. I would hope that was Scott or Yates but would settle for Estevez or Finnegan. Helsley or Dominguez in a trade would work as well. 4th OF like Laureano, Duval or Grichuk would not hurt
Old York
No mention of this big signing?
mlb.com/news/shotaro-morii-signs-with-a-s
Shohei 2.0.
RussianFemboy
@old
Hes either going to be shohei, or brendan mcKay
Old York
@RussianFemboy
Question: Why didn’t the Jays sign him? Jays so terrible this offseason, they couldn’t even sign a kid out of high school. Sad… No one wants to play in Toronto.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Did you read the article where it clearly says the A’s asked permission from mlb to engage the player while he was in high school. And their area scout worked on a relationship with him and the family over years
O'sSayCanYouSee
O.Y. — Yeah, that was a very interesting read. I thought there was a wink-wink agreement between MLB and NPB that Japanese High Schoolers were off limits since it would drastically hurt their domestic league.
I wonder if this will become more common place (in regards to Japanese HS players signing w/ MLB)
Troy Percival's iPad
Thanks to everyone’s input from yesterday that Roki isn’t a douchebag. I hadn’t considered the common courtesy to teams then using their international bonus pool money.
That said, why would teams leak that information? I’d be mad if I was a Phillies fan. “Oops we tried. Sorry” sounds a lot like what the Red Sox are going to say. Blake Sabol is a hard sell as a substitute for Roki.
Mondesi’s Cannon
Roki signs today. He knows (and has always known) what he wants… #Dodgers No need to prolong this affair any longer.
DigglinDickers
I’d say it’s 50/50 between LA and SD with 0% chance he chooses the Jays.
Digdugler
65/35 Dodgers. Yu gives Padres a fighting chance.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
I wonder if Shohei’s fame will actually work against the dodgers. Sasaki will never be able to be the biggest star let alone the biggest Japanese star on that team
empirejim
You make Sasaki sound like an all-ego diva. I dont remember hearing he wanted to be the biggest star on ANY team. I remember hearing he wanted to be the best pitcher in MLB.
I’ll take a guy that wants to be the best, and it’s an easy pass on a guy that wants stardom.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Right cause no athletes have egos or anything
freddiemeetgibby
Sounds more like your ego projecting on him
Rexhudler86
@Mondesi’s. Hasn’t visited the dodgers yet. He doesn’t want his career to go down in flames.
DigglinDickers
Sasaki just met LA for the second time the other day with star players in attendance.
Rexhudler86
@digglin. I didn’t see that. Just saw people saying it was second time which i believe was false. He went to Toronto first, and san Diego. was waiting out the fires in la. His san Diego visit had players as well looks like it was allowed on the last hurrah
Mondesi’s Cannon
Correct. I really like Darvish too as a player but if I had the chance to play with the best player on the planet in Ohtani (who coincidentally also happens to play for a championship team) this clearly seems like a no brainer…
Digdugler
If all he cares about is Japanese players on his team and easiest path to rings and west coast, LA is a no brainer. If he only cares about west coast and Yu Darvish, Padres have a fighting shot. If he cares about ????? Blue Jays?
hllywdjff
Padres 99.9%
Zippy the Pinhead
Mariners have a whole bunch of pool money still available.That and Mitch Haniger for Muncy, Cronenworth and Suarez, or Vlad. First team to say yes gets the deal.
vtadave
Why would the Dodgers do that?
Dean861
All this moving to get more international pool money shows they asked for more $$$ for a deal to get done
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Or the dodgers have less than the other 2 and are at least trying to match it, and both the Padres and Jays have the exact same, so one is hoping to offer more, or third scenario, they have other international signings they’d like to add on top of Sasaki
choof
Can you imagine how good Sasaki could be if Roger Beshens got ahold of him? A guy gets shivers thinking about it
TellItGoodbye
Since when did Paul DeJong become “notable”?
Roughed Odor
Sasaki has had more than enough time to make his decision. Get on with it.
empirejim
If I’m Joel Wolfe I have to strongly caution Roki against SD. As his agent I have to be concerned with the lack of direction in the Padres organization. They were a win away from taking the next step, and the expectation was that they would tweak a piece or two and be stronger next season. Instead, they are significantly weaker, with the probability of further cost cutting squarely on the table. Not to mention the ugly legal battles that ownership is about to plunge into. Not the stable environment you’d want for your young client. Great city, nice weather. But do you really want to sign up for so much potential dysfunction?
Rexhudler86
@empire. You do realize that they traded prospects for cease and king that they can get back. I wouldn’t say it’s a bad situation plus preller always has the #1 farm system trades them away and can rebound in a year or two. He’s done it 2-3 times over. Swapping cease for sasaki isn’t a big difference. That’s a #1 draft pick that’s ready. That’s why everyone has been floated they could punt on this season and restock the farm.
empirejim
ZERO dollars spent in ML signings. Lost your LF and C. Talking about trading Cease, Arraez. Padres farm ranked 28th in MLB.
Maybe I’m crazy, but that looks like full retreat to me. The ownership limbo is the worst timing, cant see another way to spin it.
Rexhudler86
@empire. Ok i get it, but they can trade the players they gave up assets for. Essentially resetting it. Preller is known for rebuilding quick. If you were talking about the rockies I get it. Losing profar, higgy, and kim isn’t crazy. Trading cease for sasaki isn’t that much of a difference. Plus i can see them getting profar on a one year deal.
tatismvpszn
Significantly weaker?? You go know Padres only lost a couple pieces and we’ve been strictly waiting till after the Roki news to make our off-season moves, and our still a top 6 team ranked everywhere. Sasaki joining this team will instantly put us at World Series contenders again. Yu Darvish is literally Rokis GodFather and Idol. Don’t be suprised as you’ve only see him rep one team in photos and videos and it is the Padres.
johncoltrane
Roki needs to make a god dam decision
This circus must end
jaysfansince1977
Sorry bud but he was never signing before yesterday’s new signing period, so this circus has really only been going on for 1 day and can only continue for around 7 more days.
foppert3
Have you considered that the fans are the circus. Like they were with Ohtani. Chill. Let him be. He will get there.
Rsox
Brendan Rodgers, Jorge Polanco, Adam Frazier, Nicky Lopez, Brandon Drury, Nick Ahmed, Nick Madrigal, Joey Wendle, Jon Berti, Jace Peterson, Luis Urias. Still lots of Infielders available in free agency and most of these guys are bench players
Rexhudler86
@jaysfan. For real how many sasaki articles does it take to figure it out. John coltrane doesn’t apparently read very well, because he comments on every single one. It was always jan. 15th was the earliest. I forgot to factor in the collusion, and the dodgers ruining baseball or the fact that roki can do whatever he wants because he’s a minor league free agent.
hllywdjff
The mariners can trade their remaining pool money to toronto for Bo Bichette