The Blue Jays have been known for a while to have interest in free agent first baseman Pete Alonso. Andy Martino of SNY reports today that talks between the two sides are “advancing,” though he cautions that nothing is done yet and it can’t be certain that a deal will be completed.
Though nothing is done yet, it would be quite an interesting offseason pivot for the Jays if they could get the deal over the line. For the first few months of the winter, the club was defined by coming up just short in their pursuits of free agents like Juan Soto, Max Fried, Corbin Burnes and Roki Sasaki. When combined with last winter’s near miss on Shohei Ohtani and a disappointing 2024 season, frustration was high among the fanbase.
The volume of the murmuring decreased somewhat in recent days as the Jays signed outfield Anthony Santander to provide the lineup with a power boost. But even after that deal, it didn’t seem as though the Jays were done. They reportedly still have payroll space and have been recently connected to players like Alonso, Jurickson Profar and Max Scherzer.
If Alonso is ultimately brought north of the border alongside Santander, the two would make for fairly similar additions. Both players have power as their clear best trait, with their other contributions a bit more muted.
Alonso has clubs 226 home runs over the past six seasons, which puts him second only to Aaron Judge for that span. But despite that huge power, he has lingered unsigned in free agency as spring training is just over the horizon.
That is perhaps due to the other parts of his profile. His 9.9% career walk rate is a bit above average but not by much. He doesn’t have huge speed on the basepaths. The reviews on his defense have been mixed, with Alonso having earned +2 Defensive Runs Saved in his career but getting a grade of -24 from Outs Above Average. His offense has also been relatively lower of late. He slashed .261/.349/.535 through 2022 for a wRC+ of 137, but then hit .229/.324/.480 for a 121 wRC+ over the past two years.
That’s still really strong production but it’s possible that it contributed to a gap between what Alonso and his reps were expecting from free agency and what clubs were willing to offer. The power-only right-handed slugger is a profile that hasn’t been paid well in a while and Alonso’s recent dip may not have helped him.
Many expected him and the Mets to reunite but the club didn’t seem too keen on that. Even as Alonso and his reps have pivoted to considering short-term deals recently, the Mets apparently capped their offer in the range of $68-70MM over three years. That amounts to something close to $23MM annually, a lower average annual value than Cody Bellinger, Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery were able to get even though they remained unsigned into February/March of last year.
It’s unclear what kind of terms Alonso and Jays are discussing, but he would be a sensible fit for them, despite his flaws. The Jays had some strengths last year but power was a clear weakness. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. was the only guy on the club to get to the 20-homer plateau. The team-wide tally of 156 long balls was 26th out of the 30 clubs in the league, ahead of only the Marlins, Rays, Nationals and White Sox.
Their walk rate, however, trailed only six teams. Their defense was considered quite strong, with DRS having them tops in the majors and OAA considering them the fourth-best. Therefore, adding a player who mostly provides power was a sensible target coming into the offseason.
They already made one such addition with Santander. Like Alonso, his power is a greater strength than his defense, speed or on-base ability. But the Jays are seemingly willing to go after the weakest part of their 2024 club and attack it.
Fitting everyone into the lineup would be a bit of a challenge. The Jays already have a first baseman in Guerrero. With Alonso on the club, the two would presumably share first base and the designated hitter spot somewhat regularly. Guerrero has played a bit of third base in his career but only 14 games in the past five seasons. Most of those came last year as the club was playing out the string on a lost season.
Without Alonso on the club, corner outfielders Santander and George Springer make sense as the top candidates to receive lengthy stints in the DH spot. As mentioned, Santander is not a great fielder. Springer has been a good defender in his career but is now 35 years old and he’s naturally sliding a bit in that department. Adding Alonso would limit the ability of the Jays to use Springer or Santander in the DH spot, unless they are willing to put Guerrero at third more often than expected. As of now, Ernie Clement profiles as the club’s best option at the hot corner. Since he’s more of a glove-first guy capable of playing other positions, it’s possible he could be deployed in more of a utility role. Speculatively speaking, it’s possible the Jays could start some games with Guerrero and Alonso at the corners, with Clement subbing in at third late in the game if the club is ahead and wants to prioritize defense. At that point, either Guerrero or Alonso could head to the bench, with the other at first.
It’s an interesting gambit and time will tell if the two sides get anything done. The Jays apparently still have some money to spend and have some options available. Whether that’s Alonso, Profar, Scherzer, someone else or some combination, it appears they are still busy in trying to salvage the offseason after a few misses earlier on.
Signing Alonso would also require the club to forfeit a draft pick and $500K of international bonus pool space because he rejected a qualifying offer from the Mets. The Jays already gave up pool space to sign Santander but added $2MM in the ill-fated Myles Straw deal when they were courting Sasaki, so they probably aren’t especially worried about that part. Since they already surrendered their second-best pick in the upcoming draft to get Santander, signing Alonso would mean also forfeiting their third-highest pick. The Mets would receive a compensation pick for Alonso leaving, but as a club that paid the competitive balance tax last year, that pick wouldn’t come until after the fourth round.
Ee
Please get a deal done today so we all can move on. Mets can look to fill a 3B whole with Vientos moving to 1B full time.
deweybelongsinthehall
Seeing is believing. Until there’s a signed contract, I’m of the belief that it’s Boras desperately trying to get the Mets to reengage.
RunDMC
He may be able to get more of that Soto nest egg in TOR with their FO feeling the heat from the pitchforks and tiki torches outside their offices, while comfortably seguing into Bergman convos with NYM, and Boras securing his commissions. Does anyone believe DET will give Bergman the Hot-n-Readys he’s lookin’ for??
Seamaholic
Especially since that’s not actually his name.
Canuck2
I believe run is referring to the owner of Detroit…Little Ceasers… hot ‘n ready pizza.
Aaron Sapoznik
Or maybe that “Bergman” is actually Bregman?
RunDMC
Ah, my “e” and “r” switched places on me.
I’ll do something Alex is incapable of and apologize for my transgressions.
Stieb Cooperstown
absolutely agree. Jays being used as leverage again.
Aaron Sapoznik
I don’t get the Pete Alonso fit with the Blue Jays. Alex Bregman makes much more sense.
The Alonso fit with the Mets still makes more sense. That said, Steve Cohen might prefer waiting until next offseason and once again make the biggest free agent splash by signing Vlad Jr. to pair with Juan Soto.
ToJoComp
Ummmmm, as the DH?
NYCityRiddler
If they sign the Panda, errr I mean Polar Bear where’s the Blob going to play? Ahahahaha!
bucsfan0004
Vlad is a gold glove first baseman and is very agile and moves quickly. Just because he shows lazy tendencies, especially on the basepaths, doesnt mean he is not a tremendous athlete
THEHOUSETHATMOSEBYBUILT
…so there!
stymeedone
Vlad improved immensely at 1B from his first year there. But his bat got him the GG. He’s not even sniffed it since. He could pretend he’s Devers at 3B, but being as good/poor is wishful thinking. At this point the Jays are simply looking at who will take their money, so they can sell tickets. These remainders don’t really fit their needs. DH should rarely be a target. The only way Alonso goes to TOR is with the hope that Vlad will be gone in a year. Is that what they really want in an addition?
ThatsIT?
If they sign Alonso they will have 4 guys whose best position is DH. Weird winter add two DHs to a lineup and a team built for defence and run prevention.
keysox
Sounds like White Sox in 2021
Beware
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Defense? Are you British?
Digdugler
Likely Canadian
deepseamonster32
logjammer, don’t take offence at our neighbours’ spelling, please and sorry*
* pronounced ‘sorey’
BennyG1919
Canadians and Brits spell things slightly different on some cases… oooohhhhhh we are Fing crazy! Americans man… guess what… we spell “color” colour… because in “english” color would not be pronounced phonetically as Cull – Err it would be Ko – Lor
los_leebos
@log: The Commonwealth does have a MLB team and they are the subject of this article.
gomer33
Blow their minds we spell “check’ cheque.
yeasties
Spelling differences are understood and to be expected. Buying milk in bags is just crazy
Seamaholic
In modern baseball, to be honest, the defensive positions that really matter are CF and C. And SS at a rung lower. LF is nice. That’s really it. You can still have a very effective D with just average or even below average gloves everywhere else. Teams hit fewer GB’s every year and there are fewer balls in play in general.
los_leebos
@gomer: Does Canada spell “tires”–the circular things on cars–with a Y?
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
I’m not taking defense at all. It would before like sowry. I’m gonna have a game of sowry would fellas like to play some sowry later?(Super Troopers 2 reference)
Bart Harley Jarvis
I’m guessing he also thinks maths is brilliant.
KamKid
Defense is the American spelling. Defence is the English spelling.
vikingbluejay67
Nothing worse than NY fans.
dsett75
Probably, but Vlad could move to 3rd considering that he wants to.
Blue Baron
dsett75: How do you know he wants to?
dsett75
What I’ve read somewhere. I can only assume it’s to increase his value come FA. Actually, I should have probably said willing to.
high_upside
He’s expressed many times he either wishes to or is open yo playing 3rd. I don’t think it’s as simple as he becomes the every day 3rd baseman. But a couple times a week I could see for sure! .
Crybbe666
Hey,
Here is an article from late last season where he says he would love to move to 3B.
jaysjournal.com/posts/vladimir-guerrero-jr-says-th…
Canuckleball
Another polar bear in Canada?
TAKERDBACKS
Issue is they need pitching.
Jason m
Not desperately they don’t. Adding Hoffman, Sandlin, and bringing back Yimi strengthens the pen.
They have a strong set of starters. They can add another at the deadline.
TAKERDBACKS
I just don’t see after Gausman a strong staff. I don’t trust berrios and Bassit is ok. Gonna need more than that.
Digdugler
bro. You dont trust Berrios but Bassitt is ok? You are in bizarro land
TheBoatmen
Not sure if you are looking at stats or watching but from both I would very much trust Berrios over Bassit. There is a reason us Jays fans thought Bassit was expendable in a trade. However Bassit is serviceable at least and better than any internal options. 2 years ago I would have agreed with you.
BITA
I like them as a fit for Montgomery if the money can be worked out. They need a lefty starter.
TAKERDBACKS
As a diehard dbacks fan I’ll be happy with that. We need to shed some money. We are lacking another hitter and pen piece
Seamaholic
You don’t get anything back if you can dump JM on somebody. At least his whole contact. You might have to attach the extra body.
Stealing Signs
Pete won;t prevent them from getting pitching,
ThatsIT?
Ummm they’ve stated they want to below the 2nd apron of the tax. They still need a back up catcher and another SP 4/5 type.
I dunno how they’ve got such a bloated payroll and yet seem to have so many holes on the roster still.
Stealing Signs
Well of course that’s what they stated. They’re not going to announce to the world that money isn’t an issue. They can trade some guys if need be to clear out cash.
jaysfansince1977
“ThatsIT” Who stated they wanted to be below the 2nd tax threshold??? Atkins has stated there is still money for more additions, you do not say that when you are at the 2nd tax threshold and want to get under it!!!
high_upside
You’re right. No one has ever stated the tax threshold or any other threshold as a red line.
Digdugler
They need bats much more than pitching. They need a 5th starter but an impact bat is 137% more important.
BITA
They could get Alonso and Montgomery. They do that and they could perhaps contend.
dsett75
Sure, but they need power much more. I think they were about 3rd from last in HR’s last year. Meanwhile, a top 4 of Berrios, Gausman, Francis and Bassitt (and Rodriguez) isn’t bad. And now they have Sandlin, Garcia and Hoffman in the pen, along with Green, etc.
dsett75
They should go after the lefty Quintana or Heaney for their 5th.
BITA
I wonder if signing Alonso will signal the Jays are prepared to move on from Guerrero. But neither is a very good defender so they could co exist. And I just don’t know who else wants Alonso at this point.
kellin
Angels have been linked to him at one point. I’m just crossing my fingers the Blue Jays dont let this one get away.
BITA
I don’t think the Angels make any sense for Alonso but that hasn’t stopped them in the past.
roob
I don’t think Alonso has any other serious suitors. I can see him in Toronto splitting time with Guerrero this year and next year taking over 1B.
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
i would say a Guerrero trade is on the horizon. Guerrero is probably looking for an AAV of 35mil+ for like 13+ years. Blue jays should be smart enough to know that he does not deserve that kind of money
mlb fan
“Guerrero trade”..I tend to agree. The history of portly sluggers in MLB is not very good.
oldgfan
Babe Ruth would like a word from the great beyond..
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
13 years is a crazy amount of time. Maybe 7-9 years at 27mil aav
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
honestly he’s probably going to want more than 13 years. it baffles me how this guy is making almost 30 mil in arbitration. he should not be getting that amount.
Stealing Signs
He’s not signing for 27 mill when he just got 28 in arbitration. It’ll be for 12-15 years for CBT purposes unless he’s willing to take deferrals.
Ma4170
A 10/450 deal is prob the goal, but his body type wont age well
Stealing Signs
No need to move on from him. They’ll rotate Vlad between 1st/DH & 3RD.
roob
They’re gonna trade Vlad to the Dodgers.
Eric Olson 2
Why not the Dodgers? Sarcasm
kellin
PLEASE FINISH THE DEAL.
I want a guarantee he won’t be on the Angels.
THEHOUSETHATMOSEBYBUILT
“Don’t worry friend… there’s nothing Ross Atkins can’t do!”
BITA
Ok I just looked it up and apparently Guerrero has never been a DH before. Am I looking at that right? That seems crazy. Never one game?
gomer33
He DH’s once in a while, around once a week or so.
BITA
Maybe baseball reference has changed how they show this.
rct
@BITA: They must have changed it because it doesn’t show DH for him under Standard Fielding. Now you have to go to Splits, then Defensive Positions, which shows he’s played 171 games in his career at DH. I’m not sure why B-Ref changed this. Or maybe it’s always been that way and it’s a Mandela Effect kind of thing. But I could have sworn DH used to show up under Standard Fielding.
jaysfansince1977
rct, I have always found DH listed under standard batting not fielding on BR as a DH does not field only bats!!!
rct
@jaysfan: Apparently it’s under “Appearances” on a player’s main page, which I don’t ever recall seeing. I will just chalk this up to me not being observant.
BITA
DH definitely used to show up in the fielding section it appears they changed it. Yeah not sure why.
dsett75
Vlad actually wants to play 3rd. I assume to increase his value when FA comes.
BITA
I want do date Jisoo but that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.
gomer33
There’s a better chance Vlad gets what he wants than us.
roob
I think you will.
pinkiepink
She’s not into dorks that sell toys or continue to make typos every chance he gets. Get a clue weirdo
BITA
Get a life troll
pinkiepink
You’re such a loser. Go learn baseball dork
Jbigz12
No one is going to buy that he’s a 3B. Terrible defense at 3B won’t actually do anything for him. He may believe it will though.
Seamaholic
Clement was a league average bat last year and one of the better 3B around. I seriously doubt anyone’s taking his gig. They’d be silly to do so. I’d guess Vlad and Pete will share 1B and DH, with Vlad getting occasional 3B starts and leaving in FA next off-season. Makes total sense. Good team.
stymeedone
Is that because Devers adds so much to his value by playing third? I sincerely doubt any team will even consider him as a 3B long term. Many would walk away if he insists on it.
Simm
If the Mets lose Pete they will need to make some more quality moves. They didn’t add the pitching they needed and adding Soto then losing Alonso wipes out part of the gains on offense.
Sunday Lasagna
If the Mets lose Pete, I’d think they go after Bregman to play 3B. Taking a chance on Baty/Mauricio/Acuna seems too risky for a team looking to win now.
Camikey
Hey there Mr. Lasagna. I once thought that the Mets would definitely get either Alonso or Bregman, but now I doubt either will be there. The team doesn’t have a great minor league system, but what they do have is a ton of young infielders coming up quickly. I think they’re happy to roll with a young guy at third to start the season… if it doesn’t work out I’m sure they’ll deal for reinforcements as the year moves along.
If Pete does indeed split, though, I would expect them to pick up another arm for the bullpen.
Seamaholic
They could and I think will get a guy who can play 3B and elsewhere (2B for instance) and ease the kids in. Bregman would work but so would any number of trades they could pull off for a league average-ish dude.
dsett75
Bregman or the outside chance there’s a Vlad trade. Vientos, Acuna, amongst others going back to Toronto maybe.
meckert
Vientos, Acuña among others maybe? Never.
PhilliesFan91
I don’t see the Jays trading Vlad Jr. I think they extend him. 12-14 years 475 mill
Queen Soto
That’s crazy, he’s controlled for just this season. The Mets will NOT include Vientos. Period. I keep seeing so many Jays blogs and sites predicting trade packages and they all include Vientos because that’s what the Jays want but why would the Mets do it? They are trying to improve offense. Trading a guy who hit 27HR and hit around .270 in 85% of a season who’s under team control on the cheap for a guy in Vlad who’s offense numbers were better but not immensely is not worth it, especially when they are going to have to give Vlad a mega deal to keep him around.
PhilliesFan91
The jays will ask for the moon for Vlad Jr if he was traded , but I don’t see him getting moved.
VonPurpleHayes
The Mets won’t include Vientos, and as a result, won’t get Vladdy this year. Which is the right move, considering he’ll be a FA next offseason anyway.
Queen Soto
The Mets don’t want minor gains, they want someone in addition to Lindor, Soto & Vientos. The Mets would most likely be willing to “overpay” in terms of Vlad only being a rental at this point. That said Vientos, Sproat & Benge will all be untouchable. Mets would also probably prefer to keep Gilbert, and at least one of Tong or McLean if not both out of the deal. I could see them including Jett Williams but if so the rest of the package wouldn’t be full of “headliners” I’m sure Mets will want to keep 1 of Mauricio, Acuna & Williams. Brett Baty, Ryan Clifford & Blade Tidwell are other guys it seems safe to assume they’d be willing to include. Two realistic overpay packages in my eyes are
Jays receive: RHP B.Tidwell, 1B/OF R.Clifford, INF R.Mauricio or L.Acuna, 3B B.Baty, RHP D.Hamel
Or
Jays receive: SS J.Williams, RHP B.Tidwell, 2B/OF J.McNeil(+cash), 3B B.Baty & RHP N.McLean
VonPurpleHayes
Jays reject that in a heartbeat.
Ma4170
If the jays rejected either theyre idiots. I pray the mets don’t offer anything close to either
Jason m
I just don’t get the fit here. Does this mean Vlad moves back to 3rd base full time, or is Santander actually playing LF everyday? I have to say, a left side of the IF featuring Vlad and Bo defensively is… suboptimal…
I just see Profar and Bregman as more logical fits… but perhaps they don’t feel like they are going to be able to sign them.
roob
No way is Vlad playing 3B.
gomer33
He played it last year a bit. Defensively his strongest asset is his arm, it’s a rocket. He’ll never be a great third baseman, but that was his spot in the minors and when he came up.
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
exactly, it just doesn’t fit. they would have to trade vlad which is probably what’s going to happen.
Can we please get a DH?
They’ve seemingly reached an impasse on extension talks with Vladdy. If they see an opportunity to get Alonso now on a good deal that would open up the possibility of dealing Vladdy to address other areas of need (e.g. pitching, catcher or OF).
Stealing Signs
He won’t play 3rd full time. Most likely on days when Bo DH’s or his off/rest day then they can slide Giminez to SS to help cover the plays Vlad can’t make. .
Ducey
Why cant Santanter play LF? Varsho can pretty much cover half of LF for him.
1B Vlad
DH Pete
LF Santandar
stymeedone
No one likes a simple solution.
Seamaholic
He plays 1B and DH. Probably has an opt out in the deal after this year. This seems like a bargain play and a good one. They just need production. Can figure out the position later.
cybertron
AL East Dodgers. Let’s go.
Scdd
Probably a Boras leak to create some Pete news
Cambo
Get that $ Pete!!!! So much for that family oriented organization you gave your all too. You will be missed in the NL East. Good player and great individual.
johncoltrane
Yes he’ll be missed in queens
But Mets offered him 158$ mil
And he said no
Blue Baron
Cambo: Loyalty between player and organization is a 2-way street.
Old York
This smells of desperation from the Jays. A team that no one wanted to sign with is meeting with a player that no one wanted to sign. Hilarious!
Seamaholic
Depends on the price. No one wanted him at $180m. At 3 years and $90m and some opt outs, many would. Or should.
MPrck
I guess the thought of batting next to Soto caused him to leave too bad. Will it be easier to play in Canada ?
Ashleyr
So, the Blue Jays sign bregman, Alonzo, trade for Cease and Suarez, pick up Estevez, Finnegan, Flaherty and defer a billion dollars like the Dodgers did. That way, all the players that shunned the Jays for LA can cry in their soup that the Dodgers aren’t the only team that can outspend the Dodgers and Yankees. Now that would be something to watch unfold and hear all the Dodger fans scream about how unfair it is that another team outdefers the Dodgers for the here and now. So funny. lol The Jays then sign Guerrero to a 450 million contract for 15 years and defer 400 million of it until 2045. If Ohtani can do it, why not the Jays and only have 3 million count against the luxury tax each year. lol The Jays defer 90 percent of the new players salaries.
CarverAndrews
@ashley – “The Jays then sign Guerrero to a 450 million contract for 15 years and defer 400 million of it until 2045. If Ohtani can do it, why not the Jays and only have 3 million count against the luxury tax each year.”
It doesn’t work that way. The full net present value counts against the luxury tax each year of the contract. Ohtani counts $46M per year against the tax.
dsett75
I read this alot and my question is…..what good does deferring do for anyone then?
CarverAndrews
Present day real cash flow vs. Luxury tax computations.
Ashleyr
I was being facetious or sarcastic. lol.
CarverAndrews
@ashley: No – your scenarios were facetious, but you built the “joke” around an incorrect understanding of how the luxury tax computations actually work.
mlb fan
The typical rebound relationship.
Lou Sassoll
You could do a lot worse than a Bichette/Vlad Jr./Santander/Alonso middle of the order. That team would mash.
dsett75
Especially if after they signed Alonso they said screw it, here’s your 7 years Bregman!! Lol.
mad1
Last place team
keysox
No – Red Sox and Rays 4 and 5
Sorinotsori
Rays yeah, sox are a big time sleeper team this yr
Ashleyr
Just so you are aware, the Blue Jays finished last in 95, 97, 2004, 2007, 2024, since they won in 93. By contrast, the Red sox have finished last eight times since 93. So, who do you call a last-place team? Do you call the Red Sox a last-place team that finished last the previous three years in a row prior to 2024? lol
Luke Strong
Toronto will rue the day when this debacle of a team came together. 2 one-dimensional power hitters (Alonso already showing signs of decline) heading into their 30s. This is the kind of move that gets a GM fired in two or three years.
C-Daddy
Maybe wait to see what the contract is like before calling it a debacle? A 2-3 year deal for Alonso isn’t that risky.
Also, Atkins and Shapiro are likely to be fired this season if it doesn’t go well so your second point is moot.
jaysfansince1977
C-Daddy, Atkins may get fired but there is no reason to fire Shapiro as his contract ends at the end of the season
C-Daddy
Technically yes, but not giving him an extension is basically the same as firing him.
Reynaldo's
Pete Alonso wants a large contract when his talent and production does not justify for one.
DanielDannyDano
I won’t believe it until he’s on a plane to Toronto
stymeedone
Its only a short drive from NY.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Stymeed – yeah from Buffalo, Fort Erie, or Niagara Falls the ride is short. But NYC to Toronto is most definitely not “short”
10centBeerNight
NYM made 2 generous offers. He declined. If he chooses to depart, so be it. Au revoir.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
10cent – 3 offers if you count the QO
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Son of A…….!!!!
SMH
King Floch
???
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
I want the Orioles to get Polar Bear
I think he is going to have a big year
King Floch
Why? He’s past 30 and has been declining for several years already, and OPACY isn’t exactly a great place to hit for RHBs, even with the LF wall coming back in a bit.
Where would he even play for the Orioles? 1B and DH are already spoken for.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
I just don’t buy that Irv (King Floch)
I stand by what I say
King Floch
Okay, that’s cool man, I also have guys that I just kinda believe will bounce back despite not really having any particular thing to point to in support of it (Trevor Rogers, for example lol), but where would Alonso play with both 1B and DH already filled by good players in Baltimore? I recall you being a big defense guy so I guess you would want to trade O’Hearn so Pete could DH? Because replacing Mountcastle with Alonso at 1B would be an absolutely massive downgrade defensively.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
I want to upgrade …trade O Hearn
King Floch
“with their other contributions a bit more muted”
That is a VERY diplomatic way of putting it lol.
THEHOUSETHATMOSEBYBUILT
“Waiting to exhale… maybe.”
MoneyBallJustWorks
these talks may be advancing which means talks with with Vlad are not
Zippy the Pinhead
Maybe this might open up the Castillo and Raley (and others) for Guerrero and Bichette trade with the Mariners. Aw, who am I kidding?
Champ world champion Texas Rangers
If I was Texas I would trade Walcott for Vlad and pay him 10 years 480 million. His little brother Pablo in Rangers single A is a stud.
Can we please get a DH?
Please sign Alonso and trade Vladdy (who doesn’t look likely to extend).
M’s offer Castillo and a few prospects in the 6-15 range (and then push to salary dump Haniger to add a pitcher like Pivetta, Montgomery, Scherzer or Lynn to be their new number 5).
Mets&SkenesFan
If Pete goes, leave Vientos at 3rd and try to trade Baty for Torkelson and then sign Rizzo as his platoon and mentor. DH Torkelson at times. Trade paid down Marte.
stymeedone
Baty isn’t the answer at 3B for the Mets, so he won’t be the answer in Detroit. If he can’t play a better 3B than Vierling, its gonna take a lot of convincing. As to Rizzo, he’s probably one of the few players with less of a market than Alonso. Sign him by all means.
Yossi Ronnen
Advancing at the pace of his base running I see.
Salzilla
Best case scenario: Toronto signs Alonso for what he wants and extends Vlad as well. Mets cry.
YankeesBleacherCreature
They’ll forgot him quickly with Soto-Lindor.
Salzilla
If they lose both, they won’t. Vladdy is under all of their pillows.
Miken31
Vlad is going free agent. Unless he gets traded to a team like the Mets, who will give him a monster deal.
Salzilla
Maybe, maybe not. I feel like if he rejects them, then they’d be silly not to cash out with a massive haul.
Miken31
Yeah, he could wait until free agency to get that haul but he could get traded to a team who gives him exactly what he wants. Then there’s no risk in going out and having a season that might cost him some money. Who knows?
Salzilla
No I mean, the Jays should get a huge haul for him right now. I doubt they’ll let him leave for nothing.
Miken31
Oh, OK. Sorry I misunderstood. I totally agree with you. If they can’t sign him to an extension, they should trade him and get the best package they can get. And I think it makes more sense to trade him now because they’ll get more now than at the trade deadline for sure.
Denden
Bregman 3rd, Bo 2B, 1B Guerrero DH Polar Bear with Santander in OF ballahhhhh kid
hllywdjff
Mariners lose again!
rct
I’ll wait for someone other than Martino to report this. He’s not the most trustworthy. Not saying he’s necessarily wrong but he can be sometimes.
Dustyslambchops23
I can’t see Vlad playing 3B long term so this would be interesting if beyond a year deal
Sunday Lasagna
The Mets only want to give a 3 year deal to cover ages 30-32 because their metrics tell them a RH first baseman numbers don’t warrant a deal beyond those years
Vlad Guerrero is going to get a 10 year deal from someone.
If the Mets sign Vlad next off-season to replace Alonso, they will have a RH first baseman well beyond his age 32 season.
PhilliesFan91
If the jays sign Alonso , they will lock up Vlad Jr
Mitchy2bags
I’m really looking forward to hearing who they finish runner up to.
Bobcastelliniscat
The Mets sign Soto but lose Alonso. It’s an upgrade, but not as it would be having both in the lineup.
PhilliesFan91
Mets gave all that money to Soto but failed to add to the rotation , They added Holmes & resigned Manena. That’s not good enough , They needed a Burns or trade for A Castillo. They will be lucky to finish 3rd or 4th
Miken31
Yeah, and did you have them in the NLCS last year? I would love them to add to the rotation, but I’m going to put my faith in a guy who seems to know what he’s doing more than you or me.
BITA
I don’t think the Mets are done. There are a lot for players left to sign or even trade for.
PhilliesFan91
I don’t think they do either
Miken31
How would you know that?
SupremeZeus
Pete Alonso rejected a 7yrs/$158M offer from the Mets. Pete Alonso rejected 1yr/$21.05M from the Mets. Finally, Pete Alonso rejected a 3yr/$70M offer from the Mets. The Mets wanted Pete Alonso. Pete Alonso doesn’t want to be a Met.
politicsNbaseball
I think most employees want a “bag” from their employer.
VonPurpleHayes
His 3 year offer was below $70m. It was in the 60s. Makes a difference because he probably would’ve signed for 70m.
C Yards Jeff
Pete didn’t reject these deals. He had to have at least an inkling of what he was getting in to as a Boras client. Right?
DaddyJmac
Take a look at Alonso’s post season batting stats. He comes through under pressure when a lot of other good hitters fail. I think he’d be an important asset to almost any club.
SadMsFan
I don’t understand why the Blue Jays would want Pete Alonso…So then you’ll have 3 DH’s at least, and at least 2 first baseman’s….So, are they going to trade Vlad, who is frankly better than Alonso? Why not just offer Vlad a huge extension? That’d be funny if Vlad was traded to the Mets and the Mets were like “lol, thanks for the upgrade!” Then I know they’d sign Vlad to some outrageous contract extension.
Acoss1331
So it would be Guerrero and Alonso splitting time at 1B and DH if this does happen, I’d assume. Unless Vladdy goes back to 3B, which that depends if he wants to move back. Good luck Blue Jays fans!
Treylum
So this means that Alonso and dodgers contract is coming soon.
yick04
I’ll watch a power-only righty any day of the week over whatever the hell it was that we had to watch last year.
Brick House Coffee Tables Inc
Hopefully the Jays will hold firm on NO OPT-OUT and NO NTC. Teams need to set a precedent with Boras clients.
swanhenge
Assuming TOR shops Vlad, what kind of a return would it take to get him? One year and he will 99.9% hit the market next year,
PhilliesFan91
I doubt they trade him even after if they sign Alonso. They are gonna go for it. If they sign Quintana as their fifth starter they can make some noise.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Slightly less than the Kyle Tucker trade who has given more consistent performance.
VonPurpleHayes
3 big boppers in that lineup if this happens. I still have my doubts, but this would be a fun squad to watch.
10centBeerNight
Should be a zany “Amazin Day” this Saturday @ Citi Field if Alonso departs. Forget that Alonso at many points in last 2 seasons resembled post rookie season Ike Davis. Don’t let the truth get in the way of suburban nostalgia
stymeedone
The Mets already have Soto, Vientos, and Baty who shouldn’t play the field, and Marte but they should sign Alonso? Seems to be a lot of discussion about teams that don’t need a DH looking to add another DH.
Yoyosoxsox
I swear, reading some of these u would think vlad is 400 lbs. He was fine last year
greg1
Interesting if this comes to fruition.
Would the Jays move Vladdy back to 3rd to make room for Pete. Would Pete and Vladdy split 1B and DH? Would Pete just be a DH and spell Vladdy once a week?
Bregman would definitely be the cleaner fit, but it sounds like there’s no talks around him coming North of the border.
TennVol
Predict a 3yr/90M contract with opt out after 1st year. 30M a year with 10M a year deferred to bring the aav and cbt down quite a bit. Alonso gets the 30M he wanted and Jays get the player at a lower aav.
dclivejazz
I don’t see the Blue Jays signing Alonso. It sounds like it would be an awkward fit, with negative repercussions for both Guerrero and Santander. But we’ll find out.
Hawktattoo
Just heard he is on a plane to Seattle.
jdgoat
A Blue Jays team that can hit homers? Oh man we’d be back
whyhayzee
Vlad to the Red Sox once Alonso is signed.
sovietcanuckistanian
that is a sneaky good suspicion my man. i won’t be shocked if it comes to fruition.
Rsox
Profar to Atlanta, Bregman possibly back to Houston so that leaves Alonso for the Jays. A team with money to spend and a player without a contract seems to match up well here. It would also soften the blow for the inevitable Guerrero departure, and also give the Jays the opportunity to shop Vlad ahead of training camp