The past weekend seemed like something of a tipping point for fans of teams other than the Dodgers. The Dodgers were able to land Japanese phenom Roki Sasaki on Friday for a mere $6.5MM bonus, given the restrictions on signing international players under the age of 25. While Sasaki will enter the arbitration system for the final three years of team control from 2028-30, he still comes with incredible surplus value.
Then on Sunday, the Dodgers put an exclamation point on their weekend by signing the best reliever on the market, Tanner Scott, to the fifth-largest free agent contract ever at the position. And yes, there was significant deferred money in Scott’s contract, but that’s a poll topic for another day.
We’ll hear from Sasaki soon enough, but surely the Dodgers’ previous monstrous offseason signings of Shohei Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto helped lure him to Los Angeles. Since the 2023 season ended, the club has also added Teoscar Hernandez (twice), Blake Snell, Tyler Glasnow, and others, while brokering extensions for Glasnow, Will Smith, and trade pickup Tommy Edman.
It’s not easy to buy an MLB dynasty. Others have tried, but the sport hasn’t seen back-to-back World Series winners since the 1998-2000 Yankees accomplished a three-peat. Now, with a 12-team playoff format, that might be even harder for the Dodgers to pull off.
Most MLB teams don’t open their books to the public, so we don’t know how many clubs would be profitable at the $370MM payroll the Dodgers currently sport. It’s fair to assume small market clubs could not support that type of payroll, even though some of them receive in excess of $150MM between national revenues and revenue sharing each year.
Some might argue that because of the nature of the MLB playoffs, the sport is already in good shape in terms of parity. But because the Dodgers bring in so much revenue (particularly through their TV deal), they have advantages in acquiring players that many markets simply cannot match. Maybe the Dodgers can’t guarantee a string of championships, but they haven’t won fewer than 98 regular season games since 2018 (extrapolating the pandemic season). Their payroll is obviously part of their success.
The drumbeat from fans, at least on social media, seems to be getting louder for a salary cap. It’s hard to argue: if all 30 teams were capped at spending, say, $200MM on player payroll, the regular season playing field would be leveled significantly. There would be star free agents the Dodgers, Mets, and other big markets simply could not sign. The salary cap would be tied to league revenue, and would rise accordingly. I’m not convinced a salary cap (and floor) is the only way to improve parity, but it’s the most obvious one.
MLB owners have wanted a salary cap for a long time. You may recall that was the reason for the 1994 strike, which cost us the World Series that year. The players did not give in to that demand, though they did allow for the first luxury tax in subsequent years.
The thing about a salary cap is that it would almost certainly increase parity, but as the name states, it would also cap player earnings short of what the free market allows. The expectation is that a salary cap would reduce the total amount of money earned by players, although commissioner Rob Manfred might argue that point. That’s why MLB is not an unbiased source when they talk about how a salary cap is needed for competitive balance.
Baseball has always had the strongest union in sports, almost entirely because of one man: Marvin Miller. Miller essentially created the MLBPA in 1966. He ran it until 1982 and deserves credit for the advent of arbitration and free agency in MLB. He also rallied players to go on strike or endure lockouts to ensure they only made forward progress, and did not accept a salary cap or even a luxury tax.
While the MLBPA has ceded ground since Miller retired, the sport still does not have a salary cap. Baseball was able to avoid work stoppages since the ’94 strike, until owners locked out the players after the 2021 CBA expired in December. Though negotiations often seemed perilous, ultimately a new five-year agreement was reached in March of 2022 and no games were lost. The two sides seemed enough at odds that many observers wondered if we’ll simply now get a lockout every five years.
In the wake of the most recent CBA and given turmoil with television rights, MLB put together an “economic reform committee.” The current CBA expires on December 1st, 2026. It’s not hard to picture owners banding together for their strongest salary cap push since Bud Selig’s in ’94. Assuming the MLBPA has enough solidarity under Tony Clark and Bruce Meyer to match its legacy, it follows that players might not give in, and some or even all of the 2027 season could be cancelled.
That leaves me with two questions for tonight’s poll. (I apologize for my lack of clarity in the initial version of this poll: assume a salary cap comes with a floor).
And then the next question:
VermonsterSD
Not for a cap, but gotta get rid of the deferred money and share television revenue.
Stealing Signs
Revenue is already shared, 48%. Then you also have teams that get CBT tax dollars on top of that, The teams that spend are subsidizing low speaking teams & those owners pocket the money.
CardsFan57
Yet somehow some teams are making hundreds of millions in local media while other teams make tens of millions.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Cards
New York population vs Pittsburgh. Nothing can be done about that.
Dunno
Yes there is something that can be done about that: Pool all television revenue and split the pie evenly.
Dodgerfan34
Socialism?
southi
In reference to the New York population vs Pittsburgh comment…
Sure something could be done. Whittle away the size of the markets in the megacities. Places like NY and LA should be able to support far more teams than they already do. At the very least add one more team to each of their markets.
How many teams did New York once support back in the day? And didn’t Boston used to have multiple teams as well once upon a time?
Oh yeah right, the owners would never vote that into being.
Ra
Guess you don’t realize both towns have football teams and that the NFL does real revenue sharing?
gholly618
Nfl already does it. Are they socialists.
Tim Dierkes
This is a great point.
oscar gamble
@Dodgerfan: Why is there no whining about the NFL being socialist?
Baseballisthebest
Gholly, MLB is the only major sport that doesn’t. All the others do.
Fever Pitch Guy
Dodger – Yes, they can call it a “Success Tax”.
When a team invests time, effort and money building a solid well-run organization, they should be penalized for it because cheaper, dumber organizations deserve what they haven’t earned.
Funny, nobody complained this much 2 years ago when the Mets had a $375M CBT payroll that was $107M more than the Dodgers.
And nobody has complained this much about the Yankees spending, probably because they haven’t won a WS in 16 years.
Here’s an idea: Perhaps if other teams like the Red Sox and Cubs and Jays had a better business model and were willing to spend more money, then maybe THEY could have signed Snell or Scott or Ohtani or Freeman or traded for Glasnow or Mookie (or in Boston’s case, kept Mookie).
It’s not like the Dodgers have been throwing huge money at every great free agent and eating contracts that turned out to be mistakes. They have made good decisions and done an excellent job building their brand and creating an appealing environment for players, and now some of you want to penalize them for that just because they won their first legit WS since 1988? Absurd.
Usurper
“My team can’t figure out how to screw in a light bulb, so I want to limit another team who can” mentality. It is an asinine mentality.
Nobody here is chained to their team. If your team sucks, get a new team. Life is short, way too short to spend it pulling for the Pirates, Rockies, or any of those other franchises that are totally lost.
Fever Pitch Guy
south – I would love to have an NL team in Boston again, it would motivate John Henry to compete for local fans instead of mailing it in because they are the only team in all New England.
giantsphan12
@cards, ah……yeah…..it’s for the same reason that a Jimmy John’s cost $8.99 in the loop but down the street from me in my hood in SF, a Jimmy John’s cost $12.99. It ain’t rocket science my man
Fever Pitch Guy
Ra – Does the NFL have better parity with their rules?
Over the past 10 full MLB seasons (not gonna count the joke of 2020) there has been NINE different WS Champions.
Over the past 10 NFL seasons there’s been only 6 different Superbowl champions.
Want to go even further back?
Baseballisthebest
The Dodgers have outspent every team in baseball by $645.6 million in CBT payroll and fines since 2013 not including whatever they add to that total in 2025.
deweybelongsinthehall
Fever, it’s one thing to make shrewd moves, it’s another anticipating on future revenue streams like the Mets did 20 years ago or allowing an unbalanced playing field that allows the Dodgers to sign players for even less than other teams if they could ink them TNi one anticipated so many Asian league players coming like they are now. If those leagues can limit U.S. players for each team, MLB needs to do the same. That would eliminate one team from getting everyone. it won’t stop stop
carlos15
They also have a cap
deweybelongsinthehall
What made baseball special Fever has been diluted by the extra wild cards, which to me is not good. I lived with one in 95 but this is not baseball. it makes artificial drama. MLB used to get the best teams most years. Now it’s potluck.
Baseballisthebest
Carlos, they also have a floor and a guaranteed percentage of total revenue going to the players.
JGaryW
Did you just say the Jays have been unwilling to spend? Have you paid any attention to the last couple of offseasons?
deweybelongsinthehall
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the West Coast from having an advantage geographically, but it’s a start. With the MSG strike, I’m already watching less sports these last three weeks. At this point, if baseball were to go on strike (even now), we would adjust.
ayrbhoy
The Premier League in England generates more money and more attention than any of the American Sports. I only say that because that League doesn’t have a “salary cap.” The 2024/25 Premier League is more competitive now than it’s ever been.
Imo if there’s to be any financial changes in MLB there needs to be a Salary Floor. This whole business of forcing fans to watch bad teams by selling them on the idea of a rebuild is absolutely disgraceful imo
Fever Pitch Guy
Usurper – Your last paragraph is quite silly.
Most people are fans of their local teams for a reason.
1) They don’t have to travel far to attend home games.
2) Games are televised by the regional sports network, you don’t have to pay a fortune for out of market games.
3) Local media covers the local team extensively, it’s harder to follow out of market teams.
4) You don’t change your loyalties because your team sucks. My team has sucked for 5 of the past 6 years, I still live and die with them.
5) Radio broadcasts of the local team’s games are free and easily accessible.
6) Merchandising is much harder to find for out of market teams.
Devlsh
ayrrrr – Let’s say for the sake of argument, that MLB instituted a floor of $150million dollars.
How would that solve the payroll disparity between the larger market/deeper pocket teams and the smaller market/less affluent ballclubs?
What happens when the Dodgers raise their payroll to $500 million? Or the Mets $600 million? Do you really think $150 million dollar floor will make the Pirates or Guardians or similarly sized markets more competitive?
All owners are not created equal, even if they’re rich by your and my standards. Our sport however deserves to be played on an equal playing field where fans of small market teams can put a comparable team on the field year in and year out.
Fever Pitch Guy
Baseball – And all that spending got the Dodgers ZERO legit WS titles until last year.
The spending is not a problem until they actually start doing what the Yankees did from 1996-2000, winning nearly every World Series.
Baseballisthebest
The Premier League distributes its broadcasting monies to its member clubs in the following way: 50% is split equally, 25% is based on the number of television appearances with a stipulated minimum amount (called facility fees) and 25% based on where that club finishes in the league (called merit payment).
They split ticket and other local revenue 50/50 per match with the visiting team.
Fever Pitch Guy
dewey – Did you have a problem with the Red Sox when they built a Dominican pipeline over 20 years ago?
The Red Sox spent huge money on Manny and Pedro, who in turn brought Ortiz, and the end result was a run of championships.
nesn.com/2024/03/how-influx-of-dominican-superstar…
There is nothing stopping other teams from doing similar.
Imagine if the Marlins put some effort in acquiring Cuban stars, just think how that franchise could have been turned around.
Fever Pitch Guy
dewey – I totally support you on the watered down expanded playoffs, but unfortunately it’s going to get worse not better.
When MLB expands to 32 teams, they WILL expand the playoff field to 16 teams.
Fever Pitch Guy
Gary – If you’re referring to me, the Jays were 10th in CBT payroll last year.
For that market, and that team’s financial resources, they should be spending enough to land some of the free agents they are missing out on.
Fever Pitch Guy
dewey – 1981 and 1994 were two of the worst summers of my life.
I really don’t want to go through that again. Luckily I was too young to experience the Sox missing the postseason in 1972 by a half game because of the labor dispute that year.
Fever Pitch Guy
ayr – I totally agree, especially on the “rebuild” brainwashing.
It was indeed disgraceful to hear the team with the 3rd-highest revenue in MLB say they have to trade stars like Mookie and won’t be able to compete for 5-6 years because they need to “rebuild”.
Big market teams don’t have to choose between trying to win and restocking a farm system, they can easily do both as long as they are willing to spend.
seamaholic 2
The NFL manages just fine with teams in small markets. And their payrolls are the same as the Cowboys and Giants.
Jaysfansince92
Without the rest of the teams, there’s no money to be made for the Dodgers and no team for Dodgers fans to watch.
seamaholic 2
You saying the NFL is socialist?
seamaholic 2
No thanks. We rather enjoy being Pirate and Rockies fans and find the Dodgers just boring. The Dodgers don’t need to be “fixed,” the system does.
fansincethe80s
MLB is not a government so no. Open a dictionary.
i like al conin
It’s not so much about championships as it is competitive windows. Big market teams don’t have to rebuild/retool and can pursue a championship every year.
Jimbo_Jones
@ayrbhoy Man City won four straight titles
fox471 Dave
High risk, high reward!
avenger65
southi: If you’re talking a long time ago, there was once over 400 teams that played in New York. I would love to see more teams in LA and NY. It might even revive the newspaper business.
avenger65
Usurper: I’m a fan of the White Sox and have been since I was six. However, I’m no longer a supporter of my team meaning I don’t waste my money on tickets anymore. It isn’t easy with the Sox,, but one thing I learned from European soccer is, you never give up on your team. There are 27 other teams that interest me to a certain extent so I follow some of them until my team shows an interest in competing again.
dggoblue
seems to be working for the nfl.
l9ydodger
FPG; agree with everything except about legit WS. 2020 should have an asterisk due to the shortened season, however the players were legit, salaries were legit, injuries were legit and so on and so on.
YankeesBleacherCreature
NYC can absolutely support another pro MLB team in Brooklyn.
Just a Bit Outside the Front Row
I love how New York and Los Angeles residents are crying “Socialism!” as they continue to vote for the Blue every election. Hypocrites.
YankeesBleacherCreature
You do realize that the topic at hand has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with MLB’s federal antitrust exemption. right? But go ahead and stand on your soapbox to yell at the clouds.
Chester Copperpot
No, of course it’s not socialism. It’s like those mentioning it don’t even know what socialism is.
BlueSkies_LA
Exactly. Split the game revenue into 30 equal shares and reward success instead of failure. No more is required — no cap, no floor. I’ve been saying this forever. Calling an equal split “socialism” is, frankly, idiotic. MLB is one business with 30 owners and like any other business with multiple owners they collectively decide how to divide the revenue pie, so in fact, no matter what they decide, it is pure capitalism.
Sure ownership would love a salary cap. More money for them, less for the players. And this is the only reason they push for it. Parity in play has nothing to do with it. So stop entertaining this fantasy already.
The MLB revenue split system the owners have now is the one they want now. Everybody is profitable, even the smaller market teams. Do you hear them complaining? MLB will only change the revenue split system if this fat and happy system breaks down. That’s the reality. So don’t talk about sacrificing seasons to a cause that benefits only the owners and does nothing for fans.
dasit
wish there were an option to vote for a floor but no cap
Tim Dierkes
Suppose my assumption is that that could never happen.
Fever Pitch Guy
dasit – As others have pointed out, there is a floor ….. 26 X MLB minimum. No team is allowed to have fewer than 26 on their active roster.
But yeah, what’s happening with the Athletics should be a standard rule ….. raise the payroll or you get disqualified from receiving revenue sharing.
And the soft cap does deter spending, just not as much as some people like …. so they can simply raise the penalties for going above the highest threshold. It’s not that complicated, let teams spend as much as they want if they are willing to pay more than 100% tax on salaries. At some point the additional revenue that’s generated will be surpassed by the cost of players and that will dissuade the teams from continuing to spend so much on players.
Again the 30 MLB teams are a partnership, they are not true competitors off the field.
seamaholic 2
A floor combined with much more aggressive revenue sharing would work fine.
Baseballisthebest
Dodgers receive $540 million in local revenue. Put 48% of that in a pot shared with rest of the league and get 1/30th of total pot back. Still have $280 million of local revenue left after putting 48% in pot.
Pirates, Rays, Marlins, Reds, etc… have $130-$140 million in local revenue. Put 48% of that in a pot shared with rest of the league and get 1/30th of total pot back. Still have $67-70 million of local revenue left after putting in 48%.
Difference is $210 million or more annually. No team is getting close to that in revenue sharing. The highest is $75 million.
The difference in local revenue between the Dodgers and those teams on the bottom is nearly as much as the total revenue of the bottom 5 teams.
Baseballisthebest
I should clarify that is just local TV, ticket, and verified in stadium sales for the Dodgers. We don’t know for sure what their sponsorship and in stadium advertising revenue is so I did not add that.
If I had to guess I would say another $35-40 million total.
Fever Pitch Guy
baseball – When you remove the incentive for big market teams to generate huge TV revenue by spending on star players, then they stop spending on star players and their TV revenue crashes which means their revenue sharing payments go down significantly too. So then EVERYONE loses.
For 81 games a year the Dodgers help other teams make a killing by playing away from Dodger Stadium. Isn’t that enough?
Disincentivizing is never the answer, except when the question is how do you make something worse.
Pads Fans
Stealing signs, wrong. LOCAL revenue is split, but the top teams have nearly 3 times as much local revenue as the bottom teams so that means that the top 2 teams have more local revenue left after that 48% is put into the amount shared than the bottom teams have in total revenue once everything is shared including national TV, licensing and merchandising, and those revenue sharing checks,.
dejota
I wish MLBTR would stop lying on behalf of MLB owners. See my expanded comment below or Mark Cubans comments when asked about buying the Pirates. This poll is so disingenious and either MLBTR is entirely uninformed or willing to tell half-truths for access. Its really dissapointing every time they speak on revenues.
Tim Dierkes
I’m being accused of being in the tank for owners? That’s a new one.
dejota
Why else won’t you be honest about mlb revenues? That logic was an assumption, I’ll give you that.
Tim Dierkes
Maybe spell out what the lie was? Like quote it?
dugmet
How is he being dishonest? Explain clearly.
Michael Chaney
The post specifically states that most teams don’t open their books to the public, which makes transparency on team revenue speculative at best and pretty much impossible at worst.
dejota
Have you read Mark Cubans comments? Are you unaware most teams profit millions then claim to be poor? Surely not? 200M wouldn’t even be 50% of most teams revenue. Compared to the capped NBA that’s significant. If you know these things then don’t report them I consider it a lie.
Tim Dierkes
You have access to all 30 teams’ books? Can I see?
dejota
If you need 100% verified information for all 30 teams then you’re setting a bar we all know is unachievable. Again maybe I can’t prove what Cuban is saying but he has no reason to lie and it aligns with the limited data we do have. I guess all I’m saying is typically you question poor narratives and it’s dissapointing to see you further this one.
Baseballisthebest
Everything Cuban said aligned with what is known from the financial data the 2 publicly traded teams are required to release to the public.
Samuel
Don’t know what comment of his this is referring to.
However, I do remember when he was looking onto buying the Pirates. After doing a deep dive (with I’m sure help from consultants digging out financial numbers and MLB bylaws) he made the statement that he would only be interested in buying a large market team. He more or less said the only way he could compete otherwise would be to take a financial loss in order to sign the quality players it took to win.
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I hope the Dodgers win the WS again in 2025. And I fully expect that as they suffer injuries and players having poor seasons in 2025, they’ll be right up there taking on larger contracts in return for so-so prospects that they’ll trade.
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One other point that I keep expressing…..
Ownership (sometimes groups) that buys a ML franchise makes a large down payment, and usually finances the rest, so they have debt payments to make. They assume financial liabilities. They are forever negotiating with players agents, unions, municipalities, tax collectors, local, state, and federal agencies. Obviously they have to hire people to help them with this, and those people don’t bill $50 an hour.
Point being that I see no reason why the smallest market team owner doesn’t the right to a profit. Who goes in business to lose money? These are not government agencies that can demand more help from the federal government that forever prints money which all American consumers pay for via inflation. Had I the money to buy a ML team I’d surely put it elsewhere. Unless I saw something I’d like to get involved in that would help my my country better, I’d just as soon put the money in some sort of tax=deferred bonds and enjoy my life without the hassles following me around 24/7/365.
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2025 is going to prove to be a major turning point in American history. We are a country based on law. And law always comes down to “reasonableness” (i.e. Is the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.)
America has gone overboard on too many issues for far too long, and can no longer sustain itself. Pointing fingers at one another and arguing hasn’t worked. We will either come back to being reasonable or some American institutions will crumble (as many already have).
Pro sports are in business for the national fans / consumers. The NFL has top teams this year in Baltimore, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Detroit, and what looks like an ongoing dynasty in Kansas City. The NBA’s division team leaders today are in Cleveland and Oklahoma City.
Unless MLB eliminates their excesses quickly, it’s doomed. Fans around America aren’t stupid. They aren’t going to support their MLB teams being the Harlem Globetrotters. They have other sports that they can follow year-round in which their team doesn’t have to spend 5 years “rebuilding”.
ghostofmookiebetts
If a small market owner can’t make a profit then maybe there shouldn’t be a team there. For example, does Ohio need two teams if they can’t make a profit? Why should any successful team be bailing them out? If they can’t make it, oh well, shut it down.
Or maybe there needs to be two separate leagues like in soccer where teams can move up or down depending upon their performance.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
He tried to buy the cubs in 2009 as well. The owners have to have a unanimous vote to approve it. They did not do that. The reason was his controversial past with the nba.
ALuepke12
I don’t know that the players would ever go for no differed money, after all, it’s been around forever. But I do wonder if they could work in something similar to the nhl does with retained salaries. A team can only have x amount of deferred contracts during a given period.
DroppedThirdStrike
MLBTR can you please have another article that explains deferred money so this doesn’t keep coming up?
Tim Dierkes
We should explain deferred money more, yes. I might prefer to have an economist write that though.
DroppedThirdStrike
No, it needs to be written with small words.
bucsfan0004
What’s to explain? Nobody thinks, they just sound off at “deferred money”. If the herd took their idiot-logic one step further, shouldn’t the $68M annual bill due in 9 yrs to Ohtani severely affect the Dodgers spending in 2034, because that $68M would then be crippling payroll. When in reality, that contract is off the books and the Dodgers are onto the next superstar free agent
cardinalred
I read an article at Pivotal180 from Matt Davis on Jan 3rd of 2024 that helped me understand it a little better. I still have a disconnect on why Ohtani’s contract on the books is listed at $70 million a year for 10 years, but the CBT is only $46 million. What is the point of the payroll listing if it doesn’t really count for anything except talking points for Ohtani’s agent?
DBH1969
It will take congress to intervene and force the issue. Players, ownership, or both will prevent this from happening.
League needs a floor and ceiling.
Jean Matrac
VermonsterSD, There’s nothing wrong with deferring money. That can work to the benefit of small market teams as well. What they should change is how it’s computed for the CBT. A 10 year, $700M contract ought to carry a $70M AAV hit for the CBT, regardless of when the team actually pays out that money.
Tim Dierkes
That really wouldn’t make sense though. It’d assume time value of money just isn’t a thing
Jean Matrac
The time value is a thing, but that’s different from money paid against the CBT. I see them as being separate issues.
I thought the purpose of deferring money was to provide a team more operating capital. But it seems it’s being used to reduce the tax hit instead.
metsin4
What does time deferred value matter in calculating luxury tax? Luxury tax is a made up system by baseball. That system can be calculated however they want. The current system is creating an unfair playing field and is nothing more then a tax dodge for teams playing in high taxed states.
Tigers3232
@Jean The cost to fund the deferral is what teams are charged against luxury tax. It in no way minimizes luxury tax hit.
Tim Dierkes
I can think of a few examples where something goofy was done with a contract to create an artificial lower CBT hit, and MLB led it slide. The Padres’ Michael Wacha signing was a great example.
I did not see Ohtani as such and still don’t. Explained it here:
mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/why-shohei-ohtanis-cont…
To “reduce” the CBT hit, a contract would have to use deferred money to create a CBT hit that is way lower than what it would’ve been had the player signed a normal contract.
Blake Snell’s CBT hit is $31.7MM. The $36.4MM figure on his contract is not real. He has $66MM that doesn’t start getting paid out until 2035.
I wrote in a mailbag recently – if he could’ve gotten 36.4 mil per year with no deferrals somewhere – he would’ve done that! It would’ve been like pocketing another 40 mil or something.
beersy
Couldn’t agree more Jean, not counting the AAV against the CBT is the problem.
Tigers3232
@beersy Ohtani counts $46M against the cap. The Dodgers pay him $2M per year as well as fund the deferral with $44M annually. They are charged the present day value which is also ultimately what they are paying him.
Baseballisthebest
Jean, that is exactly what should happen.
seamaholic 2
You’re confused. The Dodgers DO pay out $70m every year now, not 10 years from now. It just goes into escrow instead of Ohtani’s pocket. For lux tax purposes the present value is used, about $46m.
luckyh
A salary floor is what’s needed, and to get rid of the deferred money, no question.
l9ydodger
luckyh; a salary floor, YES!
No deferred money? If the player has no problem with it, why should any of us fans have an issue with it.
ThatsIT?
Getting a salary cap wouldn’t change anything other than putting more money on owners pockets.
VegasSDfan
Set a hard cap, and limit deferred money to a specific percentage of the contract
Tigers3232
Deferred $ does nothing. Ohtani is still costing Dodgers $46M annually. All the deferrals do is allow $ to accrue and players deferring payment due not assume risk until the deferrals are collected.
GASoxFan
Here’s my pitch:
1) 100% of media rights money is pooled.
2) 80% of ticket sales profits after all gameday expenses is pooled.
3) Of the revenue pool, the first 84% is split evenly among all teams.
4) The remaining 16% of the pool is split as follows: 1% to each division winner. 0.5% to a WC recipient. 1% to each ALCS/NLCS winner, 0.5% to runner-ups in the ALCS/NLCS. 1% to the WS winner.
Then we set a salary floor equal to, say, 70% of revenue sharing, otherwise you forfeit the unspent share to the other teams the following season.
Owners want to make money? They’ll need to WIN.
DroppedThirdStrike
Or they can 100% tank and still receive 84% of all receipts.
VegasMoved
How do you envision a deferred money ban working? Presumably current contracts would be grandfathered in. So a deferred contract ban would basically be MLB saying “the Dodgers are allowed to have deferred contracts, but no one else is.”
You guys need to think this through a bit more.
DroppedThirdStrike
I don’t envision a deferred money ban working at all. And since deferred money has zero impact on payroll it would be pointless anyways.
davemlaw
I’d just be happy for an International Draft.
The whole Sasaki thing wouldn’t have happened. And the Int players should be at least 18; this whole drafting kids when they’re 16 should stop.
Redsoxx_62
F*** NO
LordD99
No. I would not trade any season for a salary cap. Move on.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
A season the dodgers or Mets would win anyways?
MotownWings13
Because the Mets are perennial World Series champions right?
metsin4
They will be.
horaceallen
Yeah, cause the Mets are such a juggernaut.
LordD99
The Dodgers and the Yankees just met in the World Series for the first time in 43 years. The year prior it was the Rangers and D’Backs. There’s been more diversity and parity in MLB than any of the major sports.
Introduce a soft salary floor to match the soft salary cap. Change the deferred money structure. A few others changes. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Ra
Maybe a progressive salary floor. Houston and Philadelphia would have higher floors than Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Just spit balling…
braves66
I would. I say burn it to the ground and start over
Trotski
Remind me the last thing to get better after being burned to the ground. I’m blanking.
DroppedThirdStrike
Trotski- Germany
tj13
You’ve never heard of the concept of controlled burns?
Jeremy320
Every forest and grassland on the planet burns to the ground when they get out of hand. The ashes provide the nutrients for new better life. Mlb is on the verge of experiencing the same. Probably before 2026.
fox471 Dave
Nonsense!
Blue Baron
braves66: What an amazingly dumb comment.
giantsphan12
@lordS99,
Are you a Dodgers or Yankees fan?
mlbnyyfan
How about stopping deferred money? Even with a Salary cap players take pay cuts to ring chase. The players in the NBA do that.
Tigers3232
Deferred $ is still required to be funded annually as outlined in the CBA. Stopping Deferred $ would do nothing except appease the financially illiterate.
seamaholic 2
It is amazing how many people actually think the Dodgers don’t have to pay for Ohtani’s services until he’s due to receive it in 10 years, isn’t it? Like, why would Ohtani sign a contract that lets the Dodgers do that? But people are really naive about money.
Nevrfolow
I think people just want it to be a full cap hit. Who cares how and when they player is being paid but Ohtani should be a 70m cap hit per year.
fox471 Dave
Why stop deferred money? It is still paid into an escrow account annually. How many times must this be explained? Forget the deferred money and just enjoy the game.
Fenway 1
Anyone saying yes is delusional. Missing a season would be terrible 1 week in
dejota
I dont think that’s the crux of the question really. Essentially Tim is asking if you’d trade a season to level the financial playing field. However in a manner that screws players and protects owners, completely ignoring the root of the issue. The real question is are you comfortable missing a year of baseball to hold owners accountable financially in my opinion. Even if this proposal wouldn’t accomplish that.
For Love of the Game
Hold owners accountable for what exactly? Trying to make a modest profit on a $2 billion investment?
gbs42
What comprises “a modest profit?” Year-over-year profits certainly vary, but franchise values have been skyrocketing for decades. That’s where the real money is.
soxfan4381
I don’t understand why people bring up franchise value, that makes no difference. If my franchise is worth 4 billion, but I don’t plan on selling it for 30 years then what does it matter how much it’s worth. If I buy a franchise now for 4 billion then how long will it take to recoup that money.
tj13
Yikes. What a small simple world you live in with that vision.
Tigers3232
@soxfan Rich people leverage their assets. These owners almost certainly borrowing against the value ofbthe franchises generating capital they are investing elsewhere for a larger gain. As well as using it to shuffle funds to and from utilizing tax code to their advantage.
fox471 Dave
Then buy a team and reap the rewards. there, fixed it for you, gbs42.
fansincethe80s
Not really. Unless you have nothing else in your life & MLB is your whole personality. If that’s the case the the season being gone would probably be a good thing.
Geebs
No salary cap came in when the Yankees were lapping the field in terms of payroll, why should it happen cause its the Dodgers doing it?
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
The dodgers are different the Yankees didnt buy championships they just assembled really good teams through farm and FA and trades
iang2424
What are you talking about there? George literally signed all kinda of big players. Reggie Jackson, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, etc. yes they assembled a good team with Jeter, Mo, Posada… 2009 they signed CC, Tex and Burnett and won a WS.
yogineely
I’m guessing this is a joke
MotownWings13
Sounds a lot like the Dodgers of the past decade.
Ra
The Yankers bought every single one of their championships, starting with buying Ruth, continuing with buying every KC Athletic when the owners needed to pay rent and still buying their talent.
Blue Baron
sad tormented: And the Dodgers are assembling really good teams through farm and free agents and trades.
How are the Dodgers any different from the Yankees?
ChipperChop
@bluebaron…assembling good teams through farm? They have one homegrown starter (rotation or position) and that’s Will Smith. Their farm has not yielded a thing in years other than inflated rankings for players that suck when they get promoted to the bigs.
Blue Baron
ChipperChop: MLB executives rank the Dodgers farm system fifth best and rank them best at drafting.
They traded their prospects in recent years for players like Mookie Betts.
mlb.com/news/front-office-executives-poll-for-farm…
Fever Pitch Guy
Chip – I’m not a Dodgers fan, but ….. Corey Seager is a Dodgers farm product that seemed to work out well.
tj13
This is a curious comment. It feels trollish.
Blue Baron
tj13: Which comment?
Fever Pitch Guy
Blue – The Mookie trade is kinda a sore subject with many, considering how sucky Downs & Dugie turned out.
That trade was more about money, specifically unloading Price’s bloated contract.
Blue Baron
FPG: I thought Betts was going into his walk year, which limited his trade value.
Senioreditor
This has to be the most uniformed comment I’ve ever read on this site.
Geebs
lol how so? Try explaining yourself.
fox471 Dave
Of course they did, sad.
CardsFan57
Something happen to your memory? People were calling them the evil empire and many less flattering things when the Yankees were buying up all the talent.
Geebs
And no salary cap was even enacted when the Yankees were doing exactly what the Dodgers are doing.
shox1989
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the Yankees never deferred one dollar of a contract or played games with present day value counted against the luxury tax. Every dollar paid every dollar counted.
CardsFan57
I’m not as worried about the deferred money as many people seem to be. It’s an agreement between the player and team. Time cost of money is a real thing. Ohtani would never have been paid $70 million per year without deferring the money as he did. Ohtani loves it for tax purposes. He has no problem living off his current endorsement income.
Tim Dierkes
Yep, that’s where I’m at on deferred money. Perhaps people think the Dodgers are much better equipped to do it and that’s unfair?
oldguyG
How much would the dodgers CBT hit be if was not deffered ? And can they afford more players because of its deferred . To me 700 million should be 70 aav .If only dodgers can afford to differ money and others can’t that’s an advantage . For me it’s cap /floor rich teams don’t care about the CBT penalties . Why does Sasaki pick his destination to play when say a Paul Skenes goes where he is drafted. International amateurs should join mlb dtaft
Fever Pitch Guy
Tim – Unfortunately some people just can’t grasp the concept of deferrals and NPV.
What made it worse, besides the reporting of “$700M contract”, were the reports of the deferrals helping the Dodgers with cash flow.
Yes it helps the Dodgers for two years, because the escrow payments don’t need to be made until 2 years after they are earned. Doesn’t seem like a huge benefit though.
Fever Pitch Guy
old – With no deferrals the CBT hit would be the exact same, because it would be a $461M contract …. not a $700M contract.
Think of it this way, if you win the $500M Powerball jackpot it’s payable over 29 years.
If you choose a lump sum payment instead, you get far less than $500M and that’s before taxes.
So getting the full $500M lottery jackpot right away is not an option, just like Ohtani getting $70M annually from 2024-2033 was never an option.
DroppedThirdStrike
What would the contract actually be for if it wasn’t deferred.
$46MM
It’s the deferral that adds the additional value. Feel free to ignore deferrals, the accountants in MLB have it all figured out and they all agree that it’s ok.
Ra
The Yankers still BOUGHT championships regardless of deferred money, which is not pertinent.
Geebs
No one buys championships, they aren’t for sale, you still have to play all the games.
Tigers3232
The deferred moneybis all the team is ultimately paying. The accrued interest is paid by a 3rd party. Are teams required to count any financial gains that players make off of their income? That’s essentially the equivalent of counting anything above the present day value.
oldguyG
How many teams can afford deferred money to get free agents ? How many teams can afford 370 million dollar AAV payroll ? It’s about competitive balance . Teams that have rich revenue and rich payrolls win more.Fans get tired of rich teams winning division every year 11/12 years in row or making playoffs 20/25 years . Teams have to trade good players because the better they are the more they cost . Like the rays do it’s a snoozfest being in low budget team
fox471 Dave
QUICK HUDDLE: All of us who understand the principle of deferred money, stop explaining over and over and over again how it works. A year after Ohtani was signed by the Dodgers, we are still explaining the concept, probably to the same people.
cybertron
Would definitely be for a salary cap but I don’t know if both sides would ever come to an agreement on it.
cyyoung24
If there’s a cap then there needs to be a floor. You can be mad at the Dodgers all you want but the anger should be directed at teams that dont spend at all like the A’s or Pirates. There shouldnt be teams with $350m payrolls but also shouldnt be $50m payrolls either
BITA
The cap is more important but yes a floor is needed too.
Diggydugler
Need a floor, need to stop the deferrals business, maybe a hard cap at like $350M. Probably should have an IFA draft too.
mlbnyyfan
I don’t like what the Dodgers are doing, but don’t forget the teams helping the Dodgers get Sakaki. WS are not won in January. Anything can happen. Cohen can do it, but apparently, no one wants to come to New York.
metsin4
Soto must have missed that memo.
gbs42
Why an IFA draft? To take even more choice and freedom from players to save owners more money?
Damn Yankee$
To keep all of the elite talent from forming a super team and killing it’s product like the NBA.
Jaysfansince92
I don’t know that would actually take money out of the pockets of the players. There’s already a limit on what they can spend each year. It’s not like ifas are getting more money than draft picks for the most part.
The draft would just ensure that all of the best ones aren’t going to the same teams.
Oldhalo
At GBS42…. Why are you concerned with what owners make and players make. Players and owners are both making plenty of money. I am the consumer, I want competition. The consumer is always right and if you think not, you and others can keep up your concern with owners making money, or players making money because if nothing changes, it will continue to drive the product into the ground and viewership will continue to diminish.. Hard cap with a minimum floor. Why is that so difficult?
nacb55
This is a terrible poll. It should also ask for a salary floor. Perhaps some type of punishment for repeated bottom performers as well. It seems like we need to incentives teams to try to compete vs lowering goals. Sure, yeah encourage a low quality product
Tim Dierkes
Floor is implied with a cap.
truthlemonade
I know right? Like, no doy.
yogineely
Ha, as the reader, no it is not
Tim Dierkes
OK. Assume a cap comes with a floor if that helps inform your poll answer.
gbs42
Tim,
I would never assume anything with owners, especially if it has to do with most of them spending a penny more than they absolutely have to.
highflyballintorightfield
The owners already proposed a cap and floor in the last CBA negotiations. I think it’s fair to assume they go together.
Tim Dierkes
Thanks, but I do agree with those who have said this poll would be better if the inclusion of a floor was spelled out. Something for next time.
seamaholic 2
Owners don’t spend at all. Teams do. Out of their own revenue. Owners and teams are different economic entities and their funds don’t mix.
sensiblepiratesfan
Just like every other major american sports league. MLB is the only one that does not have a cap/floor system.
Ra
No, Tim, there is no “implied floor” in your poll question. That’s just a bald-faced lie. The laziest writers try to blame readers for their own shortcomings.
Tim Dierkes
You’re right. My assumption was poor and it absolutely may have skewed poll results if a lot of people voted no to a salary cap under the assumption it did not come with a floor.
Next time I poll on this I will be more clear.
Tim Dierkes
“Bald-faced lie,” come on. I wrote:
“The drumbeat from fans, at least on social media, seems to be getting louder for a salary cap. It’s hard to argue: if all 30 teams were capped at spending, say, $200MM on player payroll, the regular season playing field would be leveled significantly. There would be star free agents the Dodgers, Mets, and other big markets simply could not sign. The salary cap would be tied to league revenue, and would rise accordingly. I’m not convinced a salary cap (and floor) is the only way to improve parity, but it’s the most obvious one.”
Could I have done better than writing “(and floor)” in explaining that this cap scenario includes a floor? Absolutely. But you and I disagree on what a bald-faced lie is.
earmbrister
Ra, it’s time for your meds. No need to call Tim a liar or lazy in order to make a point.
Unless you’re being lazy
nacb55
I understand. I’m sorry not trying to be negative but I think more teams need to spend significant amounts of money or take rev share out from the league or some punishment for poor results- providing a way to control the top end of spenders doesn’t work in my eyes.
norcalblue
Tim, this poll was ill conceived.
Clearly, there are revenue inequities that need to be tackled by the owners and players. A salary cap is no more credible and legitimate a solution than rent and price controls are as a response to housing scarcity.
At the very least, your poll should have tackled the issue of revenue inequities and the refusal of a majority of owners to spend the enormous revenues they are currently putting into their pockets, instead of players salaries. very disappointing.
Tim Dierkes
It doesn’t matter how credible we think a salary cap is, though. There’s a very real chance of owners making a strong (and apparently fan-supported) push for one.
One part of this was to see what percentage of fans want a cap.
The second was to see how many want it enough to torch a full season.
The idea of a floor without a cap seems fanciful to me.
I heard an idea tonight from someone I respect that would improve upon revenue sharing in the way you’re suggesting. If I can put that idea up, I’ll do a poll on it.
Jeremy320
Torch it. What the Dodgers have done is disrespectful to very competitive nature of the game and must not be allowed to continue.
fox471 Dave
Oh, ok (tugging on an imaginary forelock).
neoncactus
Jeremy, how is it disrespectful to the game? They still haven’t exceeded the Mets payroll of 2 years ago and as the Mets and Padres showed, big spending doesn’t guarantee anything. If the Dodgers also got Soto, Burnes and Fried, maybe I’d see some lack of respect. All I see is their front office improving the team.
Why are players (Teo, Snell, Sasaki, Kim) choosing the Dodgers over other teams? In some cases, taking less money to play for them. Why aren’t other teams doing that? Kim and Sasaki weren’t about money. Any team could have afforded them.
fox471 Dave
Nacb: did you read Tim’s note about the floor?
TheHighCheese4Me
They need a salary floor, and shared local tv revenue. Both teams have to show up for a game to be played. Only seems to reason that they share the profits equally. Especially, now that the schedule is balanced.
It’s not rocket science. Both issues are directly related to greedy owners.
BITA
I am ok with the Dodgers having more profit than the Marlins. What i am not ok with is them using that money on the field to create a competitive advantage.
stevie ice
Lmfao
Nuggethoarder
I agree with you – the problem is the players do not agree. A salary cap has great potential to limit their earnings.
“Sorry bro, only a few teams can sign you even though the Dodgers and Yankees are printing money.”
Frankly I don’t care about the earnings of billionaire owners or millionaire players. More parity in the game would make it more fun to watch – honestly as it is I’m getting less and less engaged and spending very little money on my fandom.
Usurper
17 different teams have won a title in the last 30 years, tied with NHL for the most. NBA has the least with 13 teams.
Explain how more parity will make this a better experience for you? I guess your team may not be one of the 17?
seamaholic 2
The game’s finances has changed radically twice in the past decade. Once in the RSN explosion which the Dodgers lucked into with perfect timing, and again with the RSN collapse of the past two years. 30 years is an irrelevant range.
wallabeechamp
The only problem with your argument is that both teams have the right to broadcast the exact same content. The difference is how many people are watching each team’s broadcast.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Parity at all costs mlb should move forward
We can’t keep having steve cohen or Steinbrenner go up against the bob nuttings or the John Stanton’s or the John Fischers or the cost cutting seidler bros
mattv
Insane so many people are voting “yes” on this. The teams who don’t spend and cry poor, like my White Sox, are a much bigger drag on the game than the teams that are trying. Hard pass on a cap – I’d rather the money generated by baseball goes to baseball players than stays in the hand of the billionaire owners.
Jimbob 57
You will watching a league with only a handful of teams in a few years, some is wrong with system as is ,yes there are billionaire owners but there are millionaire players as well ,the rookies are the ones starving & millionaires could care less.
mattv
If some teams aren’t able to survive, maybe they should invest more to improve their on-field product, and then they’ll generate more revenue.
Jeremy320
Come back to planet earth matt. If the teams disappear so does the entire league.
McGurk
Yes, and that goes doubly for a large market team…. why would anyone want to own the Dodgers if they are just the same as the Pirates?
BITA
The White Sox have spent plenty up until recently.
mattv
They are one of exactly TWO major league teams to have never issued a $100+ million contract. The other is known big spender franchise that will be playing in Sacramento next year.
Damn Yankee$
You need to force owners who are treating their franchise as only a business to sell.
seamaholic 2
The Yankees and Dodgers make more profit than anyone else by miles. If we’re mad at teams for too much profit, start with them.
Acoss1331
You put a floor on Jerry Reinsdorf, he will use every conceivable trick in the book to fight it along with the other good old boys. The largest contract given by the White Sox was Andrew Benintendi. Hard pass on a cap, these billionaire owners like Jerry will pocket the money.
Enrico Pallazzo
Thank you!!!! This!!!! All the cap does is consolidate profits for owners. Does nothing to makes the game more competitive
Olericat
Clearly, penalties for going over the cap aren’t working…..
yogineely
I know! The Mets just keep spending
gbs42
How dare the Mets spending and trying to win!?!
dejota
I dont understand why we can’t be honest about most owners pocketing 10s if not 100s of millions of dollars each year. 200M is not a solution as it would be robbing the players to keep that status quo. MLBTR is doing it’s reader’s a disservice by not being more transparent about that reality in the interest of appearing unbiased. It’s fat and away the most dishonest thing about my favorite website. This article/poll is disingenious. See Mark Cubans comments about buying the Pirates. Honestly it’s borderline disgusting Tim.
BITA
You can set up both a cap and a floor and that will ensure salaries stay high. They do this in the NBA. The same NBA where Cleveland and Oklahoma City have the 2 best teams at the moment.
yeasties
dejota, I just don’t see where the dishonesty or bias is could be. The poll q’s are just gauging sentiment of fans. You have to assume that coming up with precise and equitable numbers for a floor/cap is a given in big picture poll questions like these were
dejota
I assume MLBTR has seen the limited data available for revenues and is choosing to ignore it. Perhaps that’s not an outright lie but it’s incredibly disingenious and dissapointing to me.
Tim Dierkes
Dude, making the Marlins and A’s spend their revenue sharing money is just not the purpose of this poll. I’m not trying to trick people. MLBTR covers all this stuff.
kevnames42
@dejota were those darn kids on your lawn again today?
seamaholic 2
Works great in literally every other sport. Hell even Euro soccer now has spending limits.
Cap & Crunch
Long been in favor of a cap and a floor.
The Nba has a lot of great stuff to steal from like signing homegrown players to over cap, salary matching on trades, aprons, ect ect
I know most yall hate whenever the NBA is mentioned but if MLB stole half their stuff while adjusting the other half towards what works for MLB baseball would be 10x more interesting outside the lines and here at MLB Trade Rumors
There’s zero logic or fairness to the MLB process currently, a pure snooze fest and big reason why younger generations are turned away from baseball
BITA
Exactly
gbs42
MLB playoffs and titles have been more balanced than the NFL or NBA over the last 25-30 years.
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
The NBA’s new CBA and the penalties associated with the 1st and 2nd aprons seems to be working towards discouraging super teams like the LeBron era Heat and the Steph/KD Warriors. Sure, you can still try going that route, but you get very little leeway in terms of building out the rest of your starting lineup or bench without getting very lucky with rookie scale contracts or vets on minimums.
I would personally like to see something similar, but I have doubts as to whether that would become a reality.
ba2929
It’d be interesting to see the number of Yankees, Mets and Dodgers fans that made up the “No” votes to the salary cap.
My guess is it’s a very large number.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
‘Tis a big number
Trotski
Yeah my Mets finally get an owner willing to spend and you wanna cut his legs out before we’ve even won one championship?? Screw you guys.
gbs42
I voted no, I’m not a fan of any of those teams.
McGurk
Not as much as the Padre and Giant fans that voted yes LOL
PrincessYuki
No. The Mariners have a good thing going. I wouldn’t want anything to interfere with that. The Mariners window is wide open, especially with Juan Soto going to the Mets.
TheHighCheese4Me
The Mariners window won’t open until Stanton is gone!
baseballpun
I might give up a season for a meaningful salary FLOOR.
Cash-Man-NY
I certainly would feel differently if I had any type of financial interest in the issue but seeing that I don’t I would love laughing at millionaire owners and players whining about money.
iang2424
Any progress baseball will have made to bring back fans would hurt even more since the last strike in 1994. That needed the steroid era and the home run chase to bring fans back. Your best young players like Acuna, Skenes, Witt etc would be missing a prime year of their career. Absolutely not trading a season for CBA changes. Worst thing they can do. Are some changes needed? Sure but not worth losing an entire season over.
Swingandamiss
Salary floor. Salary cap. Completely shared media revenue. May the best TEAM win. Not the biggest city with the most revenue. This is what it is being in a LEAGUE. Can’t handle the floor, sell the team. You don’t deserve it.
Oldguy58
I’m getting older so I’m running out of seasons as it is so I would hate to lose one. But the owners and the players they don’t give a damn what the fans think or feel
LordBanana
Yankees having the highest payroll for however many decades was somehow the glory days of baseball but the Dodgers (the Mets get a pass for some reason) do it for a couple years and all of a sudden it’s threatening baseball.
Cincyfan85
Yes and Yes. Easiest questions of my life.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
It’s not about the owners they won’t spend money
Which is why a change to the system would fix that
WestVillageTiger
NFL-style revenue sharing might…
Cincyfan85
Let me guess? LA or NY fan?
Pronklington
Nope. Atlanta.
Tim Dierkes
I’m not too clear on what you’re claiming about me. I think most of us understand teams do not put all their profits into player payroll and some owners keep money that seemingly should be spent on players. As I said, we don’t have open books.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
I can’t believe some people here are saying these horrible things
Motown is My Town
Agree, as these owners could not spell the word transparency even if we spotted them the T-r-a-n-s-p-a-r-e-n-c
Murray Rothbard
I’m not sure a salary cap would increase parity. The modern chiefs and patriots or Celtics and lakers are bigger dynasties then anything mlb has produced
Tim Dierkes
I agree that it might not be as effective as people think.
Cap & Crunch
On the field, agree
~ The other 190 non baseball days, those would be met with a lot more happiness from the whole pie from coast to coast and that matters a LOT these days
Younger Generations aren’t buying into a process they don’t see fair to begin with. Without them, the game goes South. Adapt or be conquered
Murray Rothbard
Yes cap you’re concerned with perceptions and I’m concerned with reality.
Cap & Crunch
You can have both
I agreed with your whole post btw but I can also sympathize with how a Minnesota Twin fan might feel today waking up when my hometown Dodgers ink another stud
Younger Gens are not turned on by this, frankly, Im not either
BITA
That might be an issue with the refs. Get the automated strike zone and baseball can skate around that.
Murray Rothbard
Automated strike zone would be more corrupt and easier to control than the nba/nfl refs everyone complains about.
BITA
No. It wouldn’t.
Ra
How? It has greatly improved call accuracy in tennis.
Bucket Number Six
A superstar in NFL (most likely the quarterback) and NBA is more impactful to a team’s success than in MLB.
The playoff structure in MLB will make it difficult for the Dodgers to repeat as World Series champion and it will be fun to root against them.
There is no need for a salary cap. Some of these deals will go south on the Dodgers.
God forbid that there will be a season losing strike. If there was one, the one thing that would help baseball recover would be expansion and the record breaking that usually occurs after a couple teams are added. It causes the elite players to face more AAAA ones.
breckdog
There are salary caps in other sports so it gives me a comparison as a fan. Personally i think losing a favorite player to another team because of a salary cap is worse than losing to a stacked team or losing that player to that team. If my team loses a player due to salary cap i would feel like we could have and should have had that player. If we lose that player to a richer team then i know it just wasnt possible for my team to get that player.
isolatedpower
Just make amendments to the deferred payment rules. Such as: any contract over $20 mil total value, you can only see defer up to 30% as a signing bonus or deferrals. It’s not really that hard.
Allow the dodgers to keep their current BS contracts but make their salary cap number reflect the true value of the deal (ex. Ohtani $70 mil against the cap vs. The $46 mil as it currently counts because of Time value of money calculations).
ladodgers1975
No and no, easiest questions of my life.
green-fields-of-the-mind
I just don’t think MLB needs to chase parity. We haven’t had a repeat World Series champion in DECADES, and we’ve even only seen a repeat league champion several times across those decades. This despite different teams seeming like juggernauts in their eras. Parity is here.
mahalkita
13 teams haven’t won it all in over 30 years. That’s nearly half the league.
DroppedThirdStrike
Oh you want absolute parity, where every 30 years each team wins it once. Like participation trophies in kindergarten.
McGurk
Most of those 13 teams can’t even be bothered to win their division. all except the Rockies don’t have to compete with the Dodgers for the division.
seamaholic 2
Why are y’all so focused on world series? Yes, the playoffs are pretty random small sample tournaments. The problem is teams buying playoff berths.
liptowi
What you are forgetting is that the value of mlb franchises goes up dramatically even as teams make less money or perhaps even lose money on an annual basis. Look at the Forbes valuations. The capital gains on ultimate disposition of the franchise are enormous. The point is that these very wealthy owners can lose money year over year and then sell the team for a huge gain, indeed, taxed at a lower tax rate than the income they earn from other sources that is sheltered by these annual losses. Do the Steinbrenner care if they lose $30 million dollars in a given year if the value of the Yankees nevertheless goes up by $100 million? And the income tax rate arbitrage is icing on the cake.
DirtyWater04
What you are forgetting is that the value of the franchise going up is only a line item on their balance sheet. It is not tangible money. That value only exists if they sell. And then they actually have to find a buyer willing and able to bid what they think the franchise is worth. Forbes may have their own model or opinion on what they think a team is worth, that doesn’t mean the armies of investment bankers advising either side of a transaction will agree with it and come up with the same number in their own modeling.
The Steinbrenners cannot afford to lose $30 million per year on a regular basis, that is an absurd suggestion. The valuation of a financial asset is almost entirely derived from the sum of discounted cash flows it will produce. In addition to general asset price inflation fueled by unfettered money printing from the Federal Reserve, the other major reason a team like the Yankees increases in value by such staggering amounts every year is precisely because they do not lose $30 million dollars. The New York Yankees are an engine that churns out likely tens of millions of dollars of EBIT on an annual basis, that is the reason why someone might be willing to pay an additional hundred million for them – not because of anything that transpired on the field. Unless of course we’re talking about a potential buyer being a crazed fan who is willing to spend an entire personal fortune to bring in a World Series, like an Illitch or Cohen.
tom brunanskys black sock
Would a queen thank a droid?
Gwynning
After much deliberation, ima hafta say yes?
DarrenDreifortsContract
A salary cap will never happen because players would end up losing too much money. So unless the salary cap is between 200-300 million which defeats the purpose of having a salary cap in the first place.
BITA
Cap and floor. They can make sure teams spend and players still get paid.
Ranger Danger19
Tim, you mentioned that you believe there’s alternatives to a hard cap but didn’t elaborate. What do you have in mind? Give us some options to consider.
Tim Dierkes
Well, a salary cap is the players entirely subsidizing the expected increased parity.
I’d like to hear from some sports economist friends, but to me it seems equally fair to suggest that owners subsidize the parity themselves.
If the Dodgers pay 100 mil into local revenue sharing, tweak that to make it 200 or more. Require that money be spent directly on player payroll and/or add a floor.
Big market teams wouldn’t agree to it, same as players might not accept a cap.
I don’t see why fans aren’t equally interested in leaving the players alone and demanding owners transfer even more money from big to small markets while requiring it be spent on players.
Could be the same result, no work stoppage.
DroppedThirdStrike
An additional draft, like a Rule 5 draft, with teams that go over a certain threshold have to make players in their system available.
But teams receiving players have payroll escalations that they have to make to keep them.
Prunella Vulgaris
The Dodgers have great players. We can buy the MLB app so we can watch them in real time!
No need to be jealous if the owner of your favorite team doesn’t care about winning. Just give him the finger and move on to a winning team!
Usurper
So are you okay with sending part of your revenue to the smaller sites in your industry, if they spend it on quality writers who can help them steal away your readers?
Tim Dierkes
I dunno man, am I part of a legal monopoly? Is my site one of the three most lucrative in the world? Does my business have a civic duty to taxpayers? Kind of a rough analogy in my opinion.
Usurper
Your non answer is your answer.
Tim Dierkes
A more clear answer is that I think your comparison is absurd, making the question unanswerable.
Usurper
Hahaa So lets assume you win the largest lottery ever and can be a team owner instead of a website owner. Now, how happy are you to be writing a check every month to the Florida Marlins so they can see their franchise value double, triple, and quadruple. Is it because they run out a AAA team every game? No. Is it because they make the game fun to watch? No. Is it because some teams are actually doing a good job and making the league watchable? Yes! Now if one of those teams is your team, how would you feel about writing that check?
Tim Dierkes
If I’m the Dodgers I’m not happy at all to be writing a check to the Marlins. Hal Steinbrenner has complained about this publicly.
If your point is that you’d like to see the Marlins forced to spend all the revenue sharing money directly on players, yeah, that’d be interesting.
If your point is that revenue sharing should be changed because some teams abuse it, agreed.
I am interested by the idea of the revenue sharing money not going to the recipients, but rather being held by MLB as a subsidy for when small market teams sign players.
I’m guessing owners would not agree amongst themselves to that change, partially because it would pump more money into free agency overall.
But preferring owners to fight over that instead of make the players subsidize efforts for parity seems viable enough to me.
johnnyangel
Tim – interesting idea for MLB to hold the funds in a quasi-escrow account.
All payroll “penalties” go straight to the players, not the owners.
Just spitballing here, but –
The subsidy could work like a combination of the international signing pool and the draft slot amounts, working in reverse order of standings.
The White Sox would have the largest subsidy pool amount. (I realize Chicago is not a small market, but if parity it the goal…)
They could choose to use the subsidy pool or not, but it’s essentially “free” money for them, so there’s no reason not to.
Teams could also trade their subsidy pool money for prospects if they wish, allowing smart teams with strong farm systems to trade from their farm surplus and sign free agents they otherwise couldn’t afford.
Again, just brainstorming here.
Blue Baron
Tim Dierkes: Billy Sample, who collected a payout from one of the free agent collusion cases in the 1980s, told me in the 1990s that the desire for a salary cap amounted to the players being made responsible to settle a dispute between large market owners and small market owners.
carlos15
It’s better than a work stoppage and more or less does the same thing, actually better cause big market teams can still spend whatever they want, but a lot of people in America (me too) are opposed to socializing industries or anything where the big just hands money to the small to even the playing field. Especially when a lot of what happens in MLB is organic. Pittsburgh is a small market and can’t pay anyone, than they shouldn’t have a team. We don’t need 30 teams if 30 teams can’t be supported by their base. The Dodgers should have an advantage by being a marquee team in a major city but something has to give when they’re signing virtually every player.
McGurk
Great idea! contract the teams that cant support a competitive salary we can have the Pittsburg Reds of Cleveland. and the Miami Rays. Keep adding small markets until it equals a big market.
DroppedThirdStrike
They’ve signed the #4, #14, #26, and #32 free agents. Retained the #11 free agent who will now cost them significantly more than the previous year, while losing the #8 and #37 free agents.
Hardly ‘everyone’
Rsox
A cap? No, a floor? Yes. No massive deferrals
and no opt-outs. Maybe an NBA style “max contract”
DarkSide830
I want something to be done about the deferred money, not a cap.
ButCanHePitch
Agreed. I don’t have an issue with a player making money, though I think they still make far too much. There is no way that the Dodgers would be able to have the team they have if they weren’t allowed to defer money. The funny thing is that they seem like the only team that is doing it. (Yes there are probably others but I can’t recall them right now). Look at Ohtani. He allowed them to defer most of his contract so they could go out and sign Yamamoto.
Usurper
You do realize the Dodgers still have to put ALL of his money in an account every year, right? They are just using the deferred money as a way to manipulate the CBT. And yes, every team can and does do it. If your team is not doing it, I suggest you get mad at them instead of being mad at the Dodgers.
Blue Baron
ButCanHePitch: Why do you believe the players make too much when they are performers fans pay to watch?
They’re no different from Billy Joel, Taylor Swift, or Leonardo DiCaprio. Do you think they make too much?
hiflew
If they ever strike again and miss games, I will NEVER watch MLB or spend a single penny on anything baseball related. I left the sport completely following the 94 strike and only came back because of the summer of McGwire and Sosa. I didn’t REALLY care again until the 2002 World Series. But I was a lot younger then. I would not put up with it again.
These guys make more in one game than most people earn in a year. They should NEVER have a reason to strike. This is not the Teamsters needing health insurance or coal miners needing workplace safety. This is grown men playing a game for a living and getting extremely wealthy doing it. I don’t begrudge them for making that much money, but I DEFINITELY begrudge them whining about not earning more.
Jeremy320
People are already doing this because of what the Dodgers have done. League is hemorrhaging lost revenue.
hiflew
As a Rockies fan, that doesn’t really thrill me either. But playing games in a broken system is still better than playing nothing.
Usurper
League saw a near record revenue level last year. Would be higher if Covid year had not stunted everything.
McGurk
Which people? some sour grape guy on a chat?
johncoltrane
its not about salary cap as much as its about deferring salaries
there has to be some type of regulation
LAD have over 1 billion $ in deferred salaries, thats insane
i’d also suggest a cap on korean/japanese players per tm. its like companies that create monopolies and are regulated by anti trust laws. mlb needs something similar
McGurk
Tim you should have just made your poll:
Are you willing to lose a season to stop the Dodgers from getting better. You probably would have still gotten the same amount of “yes” votes…
Hot Corner IJ
There should be one draft that includes both international as well as Americans. The shady side of the international signings should be done away with.
momTurphy
The amount of sketchiness that’ll come to the surface with an international draft in place is probably not something MLB can handle.
Jimbob 57
Some players are totally full of themselves,yes some owners are filthy rich.not millionaires but billionaires then again small market teams can’t come close to paying players like LA or NY teams . If this keeps up there will only be 12 teams in MLB & there will be another league started with end 5 years.
StreakingBlue
MLB has to replace teams who refuse to field a competitive team.
momTurphy
They’ve put in measures to fix that and they’re already working. The White Sox and As aren’t capable of stockpiling draft picks like the Astros and Orioles did. So there isn’t a reward for tanking as much anymore. It does need some adjustments so teams like the Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Phillies don’t force non-competitive teams on the league.
DarrenDreifortsContract
Yeah because all of these small market teams were winning so many world series even before the spending got out of control lol.
TCBASICS
It’s another cry from Rich Ownerships complaining about the cost of doing business. As it stands teams hardly spend and use the CBT and Shared revenues to secure profits for teams’ people shouldn’t even pay money to see and other teams that work on a shoestring budget and put out a great product to watch and competes. Personally, I would not like to see a salary cap in the MLB. I rather see the CBT raised and deferred monies counted only for years played. That balances what Teams actually pay. Today Teams already cull their teams with war. an expensive player. vs a cheap controllable player, teams usually don’t pay a player more monies than WAR players unless it’s a bad contract. another topic with CBA is the guaranteed contracts. will they be the next to go? on the next lockout? thanks for the space – Can’t wait for the 2025 season to begin!!!
mrmackey
Just make the luxury tax non-monetary penalties stiffer.
Losing / having draft picks pushed back further would make teams think twice. Losing a big chunk of your international amateur bonus pool, with trading to add to it prohibited if you’re a luxury tax offender, that would also make teams think twice.
Right now it’s too easy to have your cake and eat it too.
WestVillageTiger
Losing the season means losing 30%-40% of your fan base for ten years.
Jeremy320
Doing nothing means losing more…
momTurphy
Small changes are always needed, but the dodgers are also en route to a ton of dead money or salary dumps in the next few years. When you expand playoffs and make it easier for anybody to win a WS by getting hot at the right time, a team like the dodgers is going to do this. Let’s stop trying to manipulate the rules.
Never Remember
A salary cap has ruined the other sports son of course whiny baseball fans want to ruin it. The same people who want four playoff teams and no replay. Sad
Mikenmn
What’s MLB offering for this? A real floor with both loss of revenue sharing and preferred draft picks and international draft money? Doubtful. The end of the QO system? I don’t think so. How about earlier arbitration and FA periods? Lol, no chance. So, there’s not going to be a trade, it will be imposed. What happens when a player loses a year to injury and the team has to replace him?
I’m not a big fan of telling labor that no matter how skilled they are, they have to take what’s leftover–not because of owner’s ability to pay–but because of a rule.
mets1977
The whole process is flawed….
Big market teams over spending. Small market teams not spending enough.
Players and owners are NEVER going to buy into a salary cap (the floor would have to be somewhere around $200m) because small market teams can spend little and because of revenue sharing are profitable even putting out a bad team. Players want to earn as much as possible (thanks Boras).
But if there was a solution needs to be 100% revenue sharing and a floor of $200m with a ceiling of $300m. No more 30% signing bonuses with a 1 year opt out and no more deferrals.
If an owner doesn’t spend $200m they are fined the first time and required to sell team second time. Any team over the cap forfeits 1 win for every 5m.
Just thoughts on the backside of an envelope. But this will never happen!!
wmurphy24
Let’s try a floor first and see if it works
vikingbluejay67
Salary floor. Some teams have to spend more. Much more.
hiflew
What is the point of a team spending $150-200 million instead of $80 million when you know teams like the Dodgers and Mets and Yankees are going to spend $400 million? Big market teams have a distinct advantage when it comes to revenue and will always spend more than small market teams if there is no cap in place. If you put in a floor, there HAS to be a cap as well. Simply because if you don’t put them both in at the same time, you will NEVER get the second one in without a labor dispute.
oldguyG
A cap and floor is needed along with tv revenue cat have teams making 300 million and others 30
mz90gu
I do think what the dodgers are doing is hurting baseball just from an overall competitive aspect.European soccer is the same way no cap and best teams always buy best players so they always win.I don’t want a salary cap though maybe harsh penalties for the teams always over might be a solution?
Motown is My Town
Without a salary cap in place we’re always going to have the big spenders in the Dodgers, Yankees, Giants & Red Sox and the no spenders in the Pirates, A’s, Marlins & White Sox. In addition the big stars will get paid astronomical sums while the aging stars will wait until Spring Training to sign their pillow contracts like we’re experiencing now. With a reasonable salary cap of say $250M, that forces every team to spend at least 80% ($200M) it should mean higher salaries for those aging vets and mid tier players. The only players not in favor will be those in the top elechon, but they’ed be throwing the other 90% of their peers under the bus by not supporting a cap. The owners need to be more transparent in these next negotiations in willing to demonstrate to the players how a cap would benefit both parties. With franchise values increasing every year to the point they’re all worth at least $2B I fail to understand why the owners wouldn’t do everything they can to get this done, other than sheer ignorance and stupidity. Based on those last 2 words, we’ll never see a salary cap in baseball and by 2030 the sport may even cease to exist.
Uncle Steve Bartman
Minimum payroll enforcements, international draft lottery, and limits on deferrals are the answer imo. Making sure every dollar of pool money smaller market teams get goes to that years payroll is a must.
futuregm12
Anyone who doesn’t think there needs to be a cap is delusional. The MLB is exceptionally unbalanced and it’s completely unfair for teams like the Dodgers and Yankees to be competitive every season simply for being in huge markets. The salary caps is an effective method that has worked phenomenally in other sports leagues. Look at the NFL. While you do have “dynasties” like the Chiefs and previously the Patriots, the playoff roster is never the same and teams can quickly bounce back from a rough season. Look at the Commanders, they went from the 2nd worst team in the league to making it to the NFC championship (and possibly further). That kind of stuff doesn’t happen in the MLB.
McGurk
Diamondbacks went from 4th in the NL west (74-88) to playing in the World Series in 2023. NEXT.
sheerterror
Only communist would want to cap a person’s earing capacity!
gravel
Oh no! The C word!
BenJah
I think I’d be more in favor of stiffening luxury penalties than having a hard cap. I’d also be interested in restricting deferred money and even contract length, rather than putting a limit on absolute dollars. Either way though, I’m not cool with losing any part of a season for it, the league and players should be able to figure this out without resorting to deadline stand-offs
Old York
I disagree with the push for a salary cap and the willingness to sacrifice the 2027 MLB season for it. Competitive balance already exists in MLB—teams like the Royals and Rays have shown small-market success under the current system. A salary cap would unfairly suppress player earnings and undermine the free-market principles that make baseball unique. Sacrificing a season would alienate fans and harm local economies, with no guarantee of creating lasting parity. Instead of drastic measures, we should focus on improving revenue sharing and holding owners accountable for reinvesting in their teams. Let’s not dismantle a system that works for the sake of a flawed solution.
MsFanWithPaperBag
Start luxury tax at 150m with increased penalties and create a salary floor.
RegionalBlackoutsNeedToGo
I agree with increasing penalties, and maybe the tax should start at 20% above the average team payroll (or some percentage tied to the average payroll). Salary floor could be some percentage below the average payroll. Maybe give teams a year grace period to get back above the floor.
Beernbaseballguy
What if they capped the percentage of money that can be deffered so you can’t pull off the bs ohtani pulled or say you can defer but the tax hit will be for the full 700MM contract so you get rid of the present day value issues. It’s not easy but i feel like there’s a way to let people defer, but also not let them abuse it via penalties.
McGurk
really simple just make it a rule that as long as the player doesn’t sign with the Dodgers he can defer as much as he wants,
kevin mccane
1000000% yes. It’s out of control
CO Guardening
At the very least get rid of deferred salaries.
Dash 2
Should players be paid more than those who truly benefit society: doctors, teachers, police officers, etc? When any relief pitcher makes more than $10 million a year, that’s ridiculous. Let’s also put a cap on ticket prices and concessions while we’re at it
Nuggethoarder
As long as fans keep spending money and consuming the product at the current (and ever increasing) prices, salaries and revenues will rise. If fans stop, salaries will fall.
Rays in the Bay
Both statements are true. Why are guys swinging wood getting paid more than people who save lives?
On the other hand, why do we allow them? I’m very happy to say I’ve never given money to the sport as I’m just a casual fan, but the hardcore fans need to realize what a sham this is turning into. Not only baseball, football and basketball as well. Gambling made sports 100x worse as now there is too much money circulating within. Bloated organizations that are becoming as corrupt as FIFA.
The only way we let them know is to not show up for games, not buy merch, and not pay to watch games. For smaller market teams, they will threaten relocation. Let em. Let’s have all the small market teams relocate to Vegas or California where there are many more people with lots of money. Maybe then it’ll be more fair competition.
Riffaxe
I might be willing to give up a season for a salary floor of 150 mil,though.
Compo
As long as incentive bonuses wouldn’t go against the cap, I would definitely be in favor.
njbirdsfan
I’d only possibly see it happening if players were able to hit free agency several years and the minimum salary was raised significantly.
But the players association seems to be pretty clear they’re cool with letting the vast majority play for relative peanuts while a handful of guys make the lions share of available free agent dollars.
terry g
I for one do not like comparing MLB to other sports because I don’t follow other sports.
RegionalBlackoutsNeedToGo
No to a salary cap, but I would like to see draft order/picks be impacted more by free agent signings. Let teams sign players to big contracts but at the cost of losing picks. I don’t want to punish players, but there has to be some impact to the team.
MadmanTX 2
A cap is long overdue and salaries are ridiculous. Otherwise, LA and NY will just be taking turns as champions like in the old days.
Skell 2
Common sense says a $700 million contract for 10 years is $70 Million per year. Deferrals is nothing more than cap manipulation. There lies your problem. 1. Axe the cap manipulation. 2. implement an international draft so all clubs have a fair shot at international talent. its become painfully obvious this is needed. 3. Elevate the salary floor and make all CBT money received has to go dollar for dollar to free agents.
Someone Fishy
With salary cap must come salary minimum. Total amount spent could still benefit players and parity (or at least the belief that each team could improve quickly relative to the field) could increase viewership and increase the size of the pie. Easy for a Marlins fan to say though..
missing the moustaches
I would trade that to get rid of Manfred and every crappy owner: Fisher, Reinsdorf, Nutting, etc.
bcjd
I support labor. Full stop.
That said, if the union agrees to a cap it will be good for the sport. I’m confident that there are creative solutions that can protect the players’ while also creating more parity. I suspect the union of being stubborn when it comes to giving ground and thinking outside the box. It’s understandable; they have a lot more to lose by changing the economics of the sport’s labor relations.
wscaddie56
If one assumes teams are spending as much as they can then a salary cap will do nothing except push down player salaries.
IMHO, teams are extremely profitable but want to pocket the cash. Aggressive newer owners are making them look bad. As the article states, some teams aren’t even putting all revenue sharing dollars into payroll. As if ticket/concession sales and naming rights in the stadiums we paid for, local tv revenue, apparel sales, advertising/sponsorships isn’t enough money to run the franchise and take a profit.
There’s already a cap on international signings, how’s that working out?
Usurper
Tim, I have been a reader for almost as long as you have had the site. This is your worst article.
No, there does not need to be a cap. It is awesome for the fans when a team cares enough to spend to make it better.
Yes there needs to be a floor.
Yes, players should be allowed to play where they want to play.
No, not every player will want to play in Colorado, and that is the burden Colorado has to bare (or KC or Pitt, etc).
Yes some teams are going to have an advantage. Life and nature is unfair.
Yes, all teams need to watch what the Dodgers are doing and mimic as much as they can.
No, Japanese players do not need to be in a draft.
Yes, almost 90% of your readers have NO IDEA how deferred money works.
Yes, we want to see these great import players play on great teams.
No, we do not want to see great players like Mike Trout play exactly ZERO meaningful games in his career just so Anaheim can have a player.
No, it is not fair that Texas teams get to recruit players there with their zero state tax, that needs to be accounted for.
Tim Dierkes
What makes it my worst article?
You answered a bunch of questions that I don’t think anyone was asking, but I’m not clear on your problems with what I wrote.
Usurper
I almost took that line out, because it is very subjective. lol
It is a nonsense article because you are fanning the flames of upset fans, in return for people like me interacting with your article. I get it, this is what you need. But as a reader, it is annoying to see a respected site like this one take a stand like this one…just to get some views.
With respect, you know damn well your readers are not smart enough to understand why this is happening (the Dodgers getting these players) but you are okay stoking the fire. They don’t understand the CBA, they dont understand deferred money, they dont understand the posting system. Hell, they can’t even comprehend that the pretty girl in High School almost always chooses the hot, athletic, wealthy quarterback instead of the nerdy, poor, weakling…..so they think these free agents should want to go play in cold Toronto instead of suiting up for the best run org in baseball, in one of the best cities in the world, in front of all the celebrities, with teammates like Betts, Freeman, Ohtani, and Kershaw. How about writing an article explaining the virtues of why any free agent would want to play for that team so your readers can understand it.
Tim Dierkes
I didn’t take a stand, though. I’m not advocating for anything here.
When you see the word “poll” it means we want to see what the opinion of our readership is on something, often something topical like this.
I put in context to explain why the average fan wants a salary cap, and what I think a serious push by ownership for one might lead to – a lost season.
It is one thing to say you want a salary cap, and another to say you’re willing to lose a season to get it. Not that those who say they would lose 2027 for it in January 2025 would necessarily still feel that way in July of ’27 with no baseball being played.
This is what I need? No, I haven’t put up a poll like this myself in years. And if I needed it for traffic or something I wouldn’t have done it on a Sunday night. I genuinely wanted to our readers to vote on these questions so that we can see the answers. Do I like engagement on the site, sure, but that’s always true.
Rays in the Bay
@usurper
Boy your personality really shone through in these posts. You must think really highly of yourself.
Usurper
That is a logical reason. The timing is suspect. You are not going to get a statistically relevant answer based on the timing. Ask this again in the middle of July during the All-Star Break, not when 29/30ths of your readers are pissed their teams are not doing what they want them to do.
Jeremy320
This league is dying. If you believe in nature so much guess do nothing and let it die.
Usurper
Dying? Attendance is up. Revenue is up. Even with all the stupid new rules.
DroppedThirdStrike
Drama much?
DroppedThirdStrike
A single round international draft of 30 players without signing limits allows the best international players to be signed by the worst teams for very good money. Those 30 players were already going to have nice paydays, now they would be more evenly distributed. The remaining players would be subject to international pool limits.
bbgods
I voted yes for a cap/floor and being willing to lose the 2027 season for it.
My one reservation is that I don’t trust MLB and the union to agree on a good system.
There is too much animosity and not enough focus on the overall health of the game.
JimC
Increased and strict revenue sharing. Limit deferred money. I’d lose a season for that. But the owners won’t do it.
I am disinterested in watching a season that has just been bought by 3 teams.
alstott40
relegation .. owners that run their team like a triple A organization can be relegated .. bye white sox .. have fun playing the trash pandas
Old York
@alstott40
MLB does need relegation but we would need a completely new league to be linked to the MLB but no the MiLB.
cooperhill
Does a bear crap in the woods, is the Pope catholic?
TDurks
What an embarrassing poll. How about asking for a floor instead of calling for suppressing wages?
Tim Dierkes
Man, I definitely did not “call” for a salary cap. You would only claim that if you did not read what I wrote.
Rays in the Bay
How about both? Player and owner salaries are just disgusting to look at. It’s why I’ll never spend money on MLB. Football and basketball are bas too, but baseball numbers are eye popping.
wallabeechamp
I really don’t understand all the hate towards the Dodgers.
I’m a Pobres fan. My guys have problems. They will not win the division for a long time. They probably won’t even be competitive until the ownership drama is settled. It’s pretty hopeless in Friarville
None of that is the Dodgers fault. MY Padres have just been criminally mismanaged by a souped up area scout posing as a POBO.
Rays in the Bay
You should be so lucky to be a Padres fan! At least they have spent and had exciting players on their team. Imagine what it’s like to be a Rays fan like me, or a Marlins fan, or a Reds fan. We have almost nothing to cheer for. No stars. I’m mad at the Dodgers because they use their incredible wealth to set salary precedents. Even the ‘poor’ teams in California are incredibly lucky (minus the As of course). The Rays have spent a total of 9 million dollars. TOTAL. While I think a cap is not as important as a floor, there still needs to be some major fixing in the game.
DroppedThirdStrike
If I was a Reds fan I’d be livid. That division is wide open and they’ve done little to take a run at it. Every team in the NL Central should be grateful the Rays aren’t in it, they’d own it every year.
Simm
Cap would be great but I could also live with an even harsher penalty for going over the tax line.
Plus get rid of deferred money. It’s used to avoid paying taxes.
The other options is full local tv revenue sharing. Or at least greater than the 48%. I don’t mind an mlb team making more revenue if they are getting it from attendance. I just don’t like that certain markets even if the teams have great attendance can’t generate the same revenue as large market teams because of their tv deals.
I don’t see this stuff happening because the dodgers have long term deals with tons of money still to be paid out. If they had to give up a bunch of money or try to get under a cap in a few years that would be very difficult.
Usurper
So if the Dodgers do really well at building their team and generate at ton of TV revenue, you think the Colorado Rockies, whose management doesn’t apparently even know what shape a baseball is, should get a cut of that money? How does that make sense?
Simm
Yes, because even if the Rockies were doing great their tv deal will never be anywhere near the dodgers. Not even in the same stratosphere.
Usurper
So if you do better at your job, and get a promotion and pay raise, are you okay giving it to someone less talented than you are?
Simm
Markets sizes control tv deals. If you don’t get that then I can’t help you.
Tim Dierkes
You keep comparing normal companies and jobs to MLB, as if they can be reasonably compared.
Usurper
Lol, that is crazy. Of course they can be compared.
Jeffrey Loria bought the Marlins for $158MM in 2002 and sold it for $1..2MMM in 2017. There is an extra M in there. In 2025 it is expected FL will receive over $70MM in rev share money. They basically operate a team the Dodgers bench would be better than, but the Dodgers have to share revenue with them, meanwhile the new owners of the Marlins are seeing their franchise value increase just because they are in the league.
Tim Dierkes
MLB can be compared to a normal person’s job? Do you know a bunch of normal people who are part of a legal monopoly?
Someone above pointed out that without baseball’s anti-trust exemption, you could put another team in L.A. and it might help level the playing field. But in MLB that’s not allowed, so one team gets to have a huge market.
Usurper
Why are you comparing jobs to companies? Each mlb team is a company, not a job. They operate to make a profit. They are not there for the public. There is no civic duty. They are not firemen or mayors or teachers. They are not employed by the municipalities they exist in. Those cities fight tooth and nail to keep them, which tells you who values who. When was the last time you saw a team fighting to stay in a city that was trying to get rid of it?
As for anti trust, the other leagues do not have that exemption but the Lakers are not worried about five teams starting up in LA. Hell, the Clippers have the richest owner in the sport and its still a purple and gold town, always will be. Now maybe the Hornets might need to be concerned…
I can understand why you want all 30 teams to be on welfare and have complete parity. If that happens, you will get readers from KC and Colorado visiting your site, waiting on the next rumor of who they may trade for. Be careful though, the NBA is actually struggling now that there is “parity” in the league. People like superteams. People like to have a villain.
DroppedThirdStrike
Tim, some people might call the Angels a team.
ghostofmookiebetts
Why shouldn’t a large market team be able to take advantage of their location? This is still the United States, right? Where capitalism is worshipped and the strong are rewarded for taking out the weak? Why should sports, baseball specifically in this case, be allowed to not take part in that system? Big box stores and online giants have destroyed communities around the country and people are finally getting upset because it’s invading their precious game? This the line where congress needs to get involved? LMAO Give me an f’n break…
Jeremy320
Because you end up with only a small handful of large market teams and the league collapses. Also, most people do not live in la or ny. Mlb will lose 90+% of it’s total revenue.
ghostofmookiebetts
Oh well, Jeremy. My town lost a family owned hardware store when Home Depot moved to town. What’s the difference? With less teams the remaining ones would be amazing and people would be willing to watch the best of the best battle it out all summer.
Rays in the Bay
What about evading taxes? Do you also support that? Because that’s basically what the Dodgers are doing.
Usurper
Evasion is when you illegally use a method to not pay. They are not doing that.
ghostofmookiebetts
They’re not doing that at all, they’re working within the boundaries they were given. Legally.
DroppedThirdStrike
Ray- That’s not remotely accurate.
Vinz
The only way fans should want to gift owners a salary cap is if owners are also stuck with a revenue cap.
If your team doesn’t spend, cancel cable and stop buying tickets. Because a salary cap isn’t going to make them competitive. It’ll just make the owners richer.
Edwardian
A salary cap would greatly increase profits for owners, while decreasing players’ share of revenue. If implemented along with a salary floor, it would increase the wealthiest owners’ profits. There has to be a better way to hobble insanely wealthy owners. Perhaps MLB should implement a net wealth cap for team owners. (Sarcasm)
highflyballintorightfield
I think the poll is interesting to get a measure of fan tolerance.
Perhaps the next poll question would be: would you be willing to watch MLB that had a salary cap but only non-union players–that is, not the best players in the world.
That would get around it. MLB says there won’t be another CBA, here’s the new salary rules for anyone who wants to play, players with existing contracts report to camp on day one and make sure you don’t violate any non-performance provisions or your contract will be voided.
atripleshy
Whose terrible idea was this poll, article, and website?
Tim Dierkes
All mine
Degaz
Hell Yes! SCREW THE DODGERS!!!
Baseballisthebest
I think many are missing the collusion that is happening this offseason. 4 teams are spending more than last season and just one is spending large sums more. The owners WANT you to say this isn’t fair, we need a salary cap to keep the Dodgers or Yankees or whomever from buying a title.
All the while they are laughing their way to the bank with all the increased revenue in the sport. The commish said during the winter meetings that 2024 had the highest revenue in history while teams were trying to cry poor over what was happening with TV deals. Can’t both lose money and make more money at the same time.
Don’t be reactionary suckers. Realize how they are trying to con you into raising a ruckus to get the players to cave in. Before the owners should be be allowed to have a salary cap, every team should be required to release their financial statements like the Blue Jays and Braves do.
We know for a fact that not including the Battery, the Braves total revenue was $581 million. A fair share of that for players is $290 million. What is the Braves CBT payroll?
Keep in mind that the Braves are not one of the top 5 in revenue. The Dodgers and Yankees are at least 20% higher.
So when you hear owners crying poor, just say FU. No cap for you unless you release your financial statements.
Pads Fans
Yes, Yes, Yes! This is absolutely the truth. Don’t let the owners take away from the players leverage in getting paid what they deserve.
coocoo20
I think with a salary cap take away free agency the only way a player can switch teams is via trade if you get drafted by a team you play for that team until you retire or get traded
Appalachian_Outlaw
I don’t want a salary cap in baseball. So, not only do I not want to lose the ’27 season for it, I’m probably done with baseball if that was the path it went. There have already been too many changes that have diminished my enjoyment of the game.
I’m also not a Dodgers, Mets or Yankees fan.
stugots
It is what it is. Without a salary cap. Big teams will over spend knowing that there still making lots of money. Time will come when Pittsburgh has to make an easy decision and that’s trading Skenes bc can’t afford keep him. Same will be for Cincinnati when they have trade away Elly. Then look at baltimore.and Gunner. Can they afford keep him. There going end up getting more then whatever Vlady gets. He’s getting $450/500m Elly and Gunner are going want be paid as well. Just saying. Not good for the game when small market teams can’t keep there home grown stars.
GarryHarris
I want a SEC type investigation into the Dodgers. They aren’t using personal money . They’re using investors’ money. If this practice spreads, no good will come from it.
pdxbrewcrew
Instead of a salary cap, pool 100% of local revenue, instead of the current 48%
Sabermetric Acolyte
Alright, so highest payroll does not guarantee a WS victory… just ask the Mets. That said the deferred money thing is getting ridiculous, at least how it’s being calculated into the luxury tax. Ohtani has a 700M 10 year deal, so why shouldn’t it be on the books for luxury tax calculations as 70M a year.
One radical thought that wouldn’t be taken seriously… I wonder if there’s another way around the salary cap and luxury tax issue. Simply make the luxury tax unbearable. And I’m not talking about a larger tax… What if for consecutive years paying luxury tax a team starts forfeiting all draft picks? The lack of infusion of young talent would scare most teams.
Joe It All
It’s hilarious how many people think that baseball is broken and unfair. Life is unfair but we all do it everyday. Baseball is fine and only getting more popular. It’s in a better place than it was 10 years ago. The only thing broken in baseball is the legions of whiny fans who want to make up new rules.
It doesn’t matter how much money you spend you can’t guarantee buying a championship. It doesn’t happen as much as many of you are acting like it does. Baseball has more parity than any other professional sport in North America whether you want to admit it or not.
Rays in the Bay
Do you have some stats to backup your claim that baseball is getting more popular?
TCBASICS
Tim, to have a conversation about CAPS people should find out what portion of profits are being reinvested into the team. I do understand that the MiLB went through a reorganization and pay scales were raised. Even the NY Yankees who spend over the CBT and they spend less than 40% of profits. When George was around, I had read it was higher of likes of up to 60% of profits. As said earlier, by you and others no one knows what profits are exactly on MLB Teams with all the monies gained in a season. I am not sure if any other teams are actively traded on wall street that a ledger would be something to see. I am not aware, but I do believe the Atlanta Braves are traded do somewhat report to stockholders or a board of directors. As fans or as a FAN, I would like to root for my team (the NY Yankees) and hope I don’t have to wait another 16 yrs to win another world series. With the influx of teams entering the post season. the sheer number of games and series to win to get to the world series let alone win it all. It’s a crapshoot. We have seen teams spend gobs of monies and go nowhere. We have seen teams spend little compared to others and win it all. I don’t want a cap, a floor nor CBT. Money doesn’t win championships. Pitching wins Championships, healthy and hot teams win championships. Can’t wait for the 2025 season to begin …!!!
Roguesaw2
Instead of a floor, they should just change how revenue sharing is paid out. The money should stay with The Commissioner’s Office. When a team eligible wishes to tap into it, they should first come to an agreement for some form of new commitment (free agent signing or contract extension), then submit a request that the commissioners office pay that player for them with the revenue sharing funds they are eligible to receive.
If they don’t sign anyone, they don’t get any money. The money would be exclusively earmarked to make small market teams more competitive, not necessarily more profitable.
Tim Dierkes
Yes. Someone proposed this to me tonight and called it a Competitive Balance Subsidy.
This would be a soft floor on par with the soft cap that players already agreed to. Good luck making it happen though.
Rays in the Bay
I think this and a floor would ultimately achieve the same results. Look at the A’s as an example of that.
Tim Dierkes
Some might argue that this soft floor is already in place: the A’s had to spend 1.5x their revenue sharing money or risk a grievance.
Perhaps instead of just leading into a multi-year grievance of unclear consequence, however, strict financial and/or draft penalties could be established for a team that doesn’t spend 1.5x its revenue sharing money on payroll. And/or the 1.5x goes higher.
You could make these changes, call ’em whatever you want, and basically have a floor without calling it that. Maybe they could then sidestep the “If you want a floor, you gotta give us a cap!” thing.
Still a soft floor. You want to spend nothing on players, fine, but it’ll be painful to the point of not making sense.
That said, the CBT slowed teams down for a while, but some have so much to gain from winning or signing certain players. Signing Ohtani is simply profitable for the Dodgers. I’m not sure you can make it less so.
Dbird777
Analytics has made the MLBPA’s stance on a hard cap obsolete. Teams know what to pay for and what not to overpay for.
It’d be better for the PA to agree to a high floor/hard cap that rises with revenues, where owners have to spend 90+ percent of the cap each season.
Because one way or the other, the rest of MLB owners aren’t going to stand for the Dodgers buying every championship from now on. Even if it costs them a season or two of no games.
ghostofmookiebetts
The Dodgers are not going to win every championship from now on. The chances of them even going back to back are slim.
BurnerK
Television revenue should be a matter of obscelescence at some point with streaming frankly.
The CBT should be based on the % of the teams profit to labor ratio. If a team is spending 54% of its profit on player contracts it shouldn’t pay as much penalty as a team paying only 27%. The floor needs to happen. Teams not spending need to be balanced aswell. I also think teams in conjunction with the players union could contrive an ESOP program whereby high rate of return players can benefit from profit sharing while under contract as a result of their direct contributions. This would encourage “stars” to consider smaller teams because they would be larger “share holders” being “ larger contributors” to the bottom line by procuring organizational income vis a vis the pipelines of fan draw, sponsorship, network promotions, advertisements etc. a team full of stars would have smaller pie pieces than a small team with fewer stars to share the pie. ESOP shares eventually are absorbed back into an organization and reassigned as players retire and new players emerge like a normal esop. This will alleviate and also relieve the team of the decade long contract obligations without forcing them to hold an actual roster spot and still technically employ them. This type of plan could potentially make a 20 million a year contract blossom into a 50 million a year contract if a player is captain America without actually draining the team ownership unless they actually create that revenue.
Enrico Pallazzo
You idiots realize this just makes it easier for owners to continue the status quo and be profitable without trying to win right?
slowcurve
The fans ARE baseball and shouldn’t be robbed of another season for any reason other than natural disaster. If these million and billionaires can’t figure out a solution before 2026, then that proves how little they value the average fan, and perhaps it’s the fans that should be doing the striking.
Devlsh
I’ve been lucky enough to live in a city whose ownership/team has perennially put a contender on the field despite it’s mid market status, but I’m 100% in favor of whatever changes are necessary to give small market teams a fighting chance of annual contention.
The SMARTEST ballclubs should win every year, not the richest.
Rays in the Bay
Exactly. Right now the richest teams can buy the smartest personnel and poach them from teams like the Rays or Guardians. People seem to forget that Friedman was a long-time GM of the Rays before being bought off by the Dodgers. If all things were equal, you can bet that the Rays and the Dodgers would be very similarly built teams. But the Dodgers have the money so they will win hundreds of games and rings while the Rays search the bargain bins or trades with other bargain binners. It gets boring after a while being a small market fan.
desertball
Right or wrong it shouldn’t come as a surprise. Both Ohtani and AF came out publicly following his signing and stated they would spend to compete every year. Every player in the world dreams of coming to the US and playing with the best. How can you be the best in the world if not even the best on your team?
Lastly, it took a 50/50 year for LAD to overcome the injuries last year. They had 1 starter who was in the rotation at the beginning of the year start a game in the playoffs. They lost from 21-23 and almost 24 due to depth.
svetlana
This article doesn’t even mention the most important factor in the Dodgers’ spending sprees. Ohtani. It literally all comes down to him.
It’s a simple truth that had the Dodgers not signed Ohtani, they would not be spending at this level. There’s literally a competitive clause and a key-man clause in Ohtani’s contract, and the $100+M revenues Ohtani brings to the team.
If Ohtani were all about money like Soto, he would have garnered an unthinkable contract; as you know, there was no true bidding process for Ohtani. Heck, he didn’t even try to enage teams like the Yankees and the Mets.
That’s why Ohtani’s contract is the most team-friendly one ever. He’s not playing for free for the Dodgers. He’s actually playing for the Dodgers while paying them. And this is why Soto getting more money than Ohtani is so ridiculous.
svetlana
$70 million in sponsorship revenue alone.
forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2025/01/09/sports-…
PuttPutt⁰³
Not surprised at the results.
Those who are fans of teams who take advantage of the UNFAIR system could care less about a salary cap(which all salary caps include a floor)
Those of us who are fans of teams who get taken advantage of obviously want a cap.
While it absolutely is unfair economically, some of these owners are still part of the blame.
I’m starting to despise MLB because of this. It sucks.
letsgooakland123
Here’s the list of people ruining baseball. It’s not deferrals or the Dodgers.
Bob Castellini
Charles Monfort
Richard Monfort
John J. Fisher
Robert Nutting
Jerry Reinsdorf
Stuart Sternberg
Rob Manfred
And in risk of starting political debate, a little diversity in ownership groups would help.
DirtyWater04
Don’t forget the Pohlad family .
Rays in the Bay
A cap is not a universal fix. A cap would be nice but there are too many other underlying issues that need to be fixed/hammered out. Limitations on deferred money (either limit on number of players / years / amount of money). A salary floor to force rich team owners to spend more. A soft cap, but with more enforcement and less loopholes. Even more rules/enforcement to prevent prospect hoarding/tanking teams + service manipulation. Maybe something to limit how much foreign money a team can receive per year (similar to TV deals).
But honestly baseball might be too far gone. All or a mix of these solutions would definitely make the game fairer for smaller markets and improve competitiveness. But I honestly don’t see the MLBPA + owners agreeing or conceding anything.
I know baseball is a business first and foremost, and I know many people would be up in arms over limiting deferrals or foreign income… But baseball is going to miss it’s chance to prevent the parity gap from widening if it does nothing.
Regnad Kcin
1. No salary cap and maintain CBT penalties. They are effective and serve as a soft cap. This is good for the players and owners.
2. Establish a salary floor AND establish revenue sharing of TV contracts. With revenue sharing from the CBT penalties and TV contracts, even cheap-ass owners will have plenty of dough to pony up or sell to someone who will. This is good for players.
3. No fully guaranteed contracts. In no other business (except maybe some other sport I don’t follow) does anyone get paid to suck. Quid pro quo contracts, full stop. This is good for the owners.
Both sides get something and the sport survives.
DroppedThirdStrike
Guaranteed contracts are less likely to get removed than a cap is to get added.
b00giem@n
MLB revenue works much like the electoral college and it doesn’t seem right no matter what side you’re on.
There should be a salary cap or a max salary a player can earn period. NDL will soon have this issue too.
b00giem@n
NFL*
unglar
I’d only like a cap if it came with a floor and that floor was much higher than I’ve heard, maybe 100m. The players deserve 50%+ of the money being made and I oppose the cap because I don’t want them to lose money to selfish owners who leave cities or blackmail them for stadium and land funds.
I voted no cap and I wouldn’t want to lose a season. But I do think there is a serious problem that teams like the Dodgers are out of parity with say the Marlins because of who happens to own the teams.
We deserve better.
Chicken In Philly?
Fan opinion that supports a cap is easy to garner in this current situation. So many teams’ fans are watching their franchises collect revenue (handouts) and profits, but rather than hold the owners accountable, they go after the labor force. They’re mad that their teams aren’t competing, but the target is the team willing to spend. Makes total sense. This is America 2025
Tim Dierkes
I generally agree…it is clear that public sentiment is on the owners’ side.
I see a lot of people here asking for transparency from MLB owners. That’s not their thing.
fansincethe80s
We targeting the teams that are appear to be driving the increase in cost for the average fans by signing players of a kids game to contract with Monopoly money numbers and far beyond the expected value.
Giants 2024
Before a cap, how about a salary floor? Teams have money but refuse to spend any.
North by Northwest
Would you enjoy playing Monopoly if 1 player starts with $500 and gets $50 every time he passes go, and another starts with $3,000 and gets $300 every time he passes go? Any little kid could tell you that would be a dumb way to play the game.
I have been reading this site for years without commenting because I never registered. That all changed tonight, when I finally took the time to register, just so I could voice my support for a salary cap and a floor, spaced pretty closely together. I’ve been thinking this over for close to an hour, and at first I thought five, but now I think I’d be willing to trade TEN years of MLB games if it brought about a balanced economic system. I’ve got 50 years of pent up frustration around this issue, haha, and I figure I’ll live another 20-40 years, so I’d be willing to give up 10 if it meant my favorite game could finally be fixed. I used to listen to basically 162 M’s games a year, and the last several years I’ve been massively cutting back out of disgust over this issue. It’s just hard to believe in the product when the team resources are so uneven. And I’ve discovered it’s kind of freeing to not be chained to the game. I told my brother it’s like I’ve finally woken up to the fact that I’ve been in an abusive relationship where my partner isn’t nearly matching my commitment level, haha.
Even if Bill Gates bought his hometown team, my beloved Mariners, and spent like a drunken fool, that wouldn’t fix this issue. And I would NOT swap my stance. Even if this happened for EVERY team, they still would be spending different amounts, and we’d be rooting for our billionaire vs your billionaire – is that what people want? Because it’s what we already have. As long as the teams are spending wildly different amounts, the game isn’t fair.
I don’t think it’s impossible to fix. One prerequisite hurdle that is maybe the most difficult step is the teams have to open their books, all the books, to some kind of impartial and independent audit. Not MLB’s auditors, nor the MLBPA’s. Truly independent. Only then can all of the revenue streams be identified. Many teams use multiple business entities to split the revenue stream up into smaller portions (parking, concessions, gate, TV, etc). That way they can say “The team made X in 2023,” and they can be underreporting total revenue, without necessarily lying. Anyway, IF the real numbers can be determined, then we can determine the average % of total revenue that the players have been receiving every year. And we could lock that percentage in. For example if players have been getting 50-55% of total revenue over the last 10 seasons (I’m totally guessing), we can keep it in that range, and the same auditor would be responsible for running the numbers each year and then reporting the next year’s floor and cap. Teams would have a LITTLE wiggle room, like maybe $235m to $260m or something with no gap between them greater than say 10%.
Tim Dierkes
Glad you joined the discussion.
I think the problem is this:
“IF the real numbers can be determined”
Based on baseball history, I do not think the players could get to a point where they’re happy with and confident in how teams report their revenue.
Señor Herps
Sad that people won’t sacrifice a season to make the sport better. I guess they’re happy with those stupid rule changes that don’t make the sport better at all.
DLA75Mets
The MLBPA will never agree to it so I’d rather not throw a season down the tubes we need to in the next CBA all teams like the Dodgers accountable for the deferred money in the present and if they don’t wan’t pay a huge penalty they would have to trade away some of their big contacts players.
You're a moron
This is a revolting headline / poll. I will never clock on a mlbtr link again.
Tim Dierkes
Why?
fred-3
The union won’t even talk about a cap until they get the owners to discuss a salary floor, which will never happen.
Tim Dierkes
I think that’s backwards. MLB already proposed a cap/floor system.
fred-3
At the highest level in baseball, there’s no cap on your earnings. This is one of the reason a lot of players choose to play baseball over other sports. MLBPAs like Tony Clark and Michael Weiner have publicly stated there will never be a salary cap. It’s not even a discussion now. The time to implement that was in 1994-1995.
Tim Dierkes
I am not sure owners believe that they have no chance at a salary cap. We will see how hard they try. If they don’t try that hard, then yes, they’re taking Tony at his word. It’s been 30 years since they really tried.
Miken31
It doesn’t matter how hard they try. There will not be a salary cap. Get it out of your head.
Tim Dierkes
How could you possibly know that?
Miken31
Because Ive followed sports a long time and there is no stronger union I’ve ever seen than the baseball players union. That’s how I know that. Those players will not agree to a cap to their salaries. Mark it down. I know that and you should know it too.
Tim Dierkes
Historically, the MLBPA has obviously been stronger than any other union. I agree, everyone knows that.
What you do not know is how these 1,200 players would act when they start losing money. As I said, how could you? Any player under the age of 29 wasn’t even alive when the last strike ended. Those guys having solidarity says little about these guys.
I don’t like proclaiming certainty about stuff like this.
Miken31
You can keep talking about it. You can wish it into existence. It’s not going to happen. So we can keep going back-and-forth and in the end it still will not happen. There will not be a salary cap in MLB. You’re also assuming the owners will be in solidarity on this issue. Either way it doesn’t matter. It’s not going to happen. If you don’t want to say it with certainty you don’t have to. I will.
Tim Dierkes
OK
Kewldude69
Sorry not sorry. But this is all on you guys for continuing then, ”Dodgers will lose in the first round anyways” diatribe. They weren’t always this way. There was a time of Brandon McCarthy, Scott Kazmir, and Craig Kimbrel. But no, you guys ha fb to persist. Well, eat it up, trolls. The Dodgers are here to destroy and they aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.
DirtyWater04
Yeah I’m sure the Dodgers make large operational strategy decisions based on what random internet commenters are saying. Great point.
Miken31
Except real life and playoffs don’t always work that way. Injuries happen. Regression happens. It doesn’t always go that way. One year of a team winning the World Series is not here destroy. Let them prove it further.
Salzilla
I wouldn’t mind a cap/floor, but not at the expense of a season. I think you could definitely achieve it, though, if they made the cap high, say 275m and the floor 125m. I think the higher end teams having to dial it back a bit helps, but doesn’t hurt, and the lower end teams would get slightly better just for having to spend a bit more.
As for things like deferred money, I can see more teams taking this tactic and probably should, but there should definitely be some sort of percentage rule over how much should be allowed.
Lastly, a better system of allocating foreign talent needs to be in place for players coming from outside professional leagues. One way to do it (similar to what MLS does/did) is incoming talent is added to teams on a rolling basis somewhat like placing a waiver claim. Once the team at the top of the list gets a player they go to the back of the line. Like any draft, any team can trade up the line. If that player elects not to sign with the negotiating team, that player is ineligible to sign with the league until the following season. That said, once in the league for a season, they are now considered a standard free agent. So maybe there’s a contractual limit of that initial entry contract like one year plus an option. This way, players wouldn’t feel disappointed about not signing with their preferred team right out of the gate, but it would both give other teams an opportunity to get their feet in these international pools and have a chance win over said talent.
sadmarinersfan
This is one of the worst/dumbest articles I have ever read on this site.
Tim Dierkes
Explain
Tim Dierkes
Tell me what’s dumb/terrible/whatever, and I’ll answer for it.
Sabermetric Acolyte
Tim, surely you must know by now… Don’t feed the trolls.
Tim Dierkes
Hey, I’m here for the discussion. I thought I wrote a reasoned brief explanation of why fans want a cap, and why a major push for it by ownership could cost us the 2027 season. That it could go down that way is entirely reasonable to me.
We’ve written almost 100,000 posts over 19+ years, so if you’re gonna come on here and tell me this is one of the worst, state your case. I like criticism when it is not personal.
Sabermetric Acolyte
Kinda my point. That’s not a shot at reasoned argument. It’s just a shot.
But if you want a criticism I will say I think you’re getting pretty close to suggesting the strike was the players fault for not accepting a salary cap. The bigger issue was the lack of trust due to collusion by the owners. That is what will always stand in the way of a salary cap. The fact that the player won’t trust the owners to use it to their advantage
ChickenMc
I’d be interested in a competitive salary floor.
When competitive balance paid teams have to be threatened with grievances unless they spend to a minimum based on their share of the pool because they refuse to it creates a larger competitive issue within the league than a lack of salary cap does.
Teams should learn to maximize their profitability within their market or stop crying poor.
dave frost nhlpa
When MLB continues to place (and leave) clubs in inferior markets-TB,Mia,Oakland,the players deserve every red cent. A club should be allowed to buy any player out of a contract the first day after the WS is completed without penalty
Jdt8312
All this salary cap, and salary floor talk really makes me wonder if anyone thinks about the consequences of those 2 actions. A salary cap punishes the teams with the most fans. Most “big market” teams are in high tax places, like NY, and LA. Where smaller market teams, like the ones in TX, and FLA have no state income tax at all. 1 million dollars in TX or Fla is worth more contractually than 1 million in NY, or CA. So does it make sense to punish the areas with the largest consumers of the product? No, it doesn’t. Well then why does it work in the NFL, and NBA? Does it? When was the last time you saw a legitimate football team in NY? When was the last time you saw one of those franchises not have money problems because of the cap? Same with the NBA.so before you go thinking that a cap is a good idea, ask yourself if a cap is going make small market owners spend more? The answer to that is a resounding “NO”. And therein lies the problem. A salary cap isn’t going to be less than 350 mil. How does that help the small markets? It doesn’t. It only puts more money in the pockets of small market owners, and doesn’t improve their clubs, or make high end players more available to their clubs.
If you really need an explanation of how a salary floor would only make the problem more expensive, you don’t belong in this conversation at all.
Redsforlife
Doesn’t matter because fans are starting to check out. Baseball is trying all kinds of things to keep people interested and shorten the game but fans in small cities are finding better things to do and it’s only going to get worse. Season goes for 9 months and tickets go up and taking a family to a game is rediculous. The sport is dying.
DroppedThirdStrike
Please explain how ticket revenue is up 15% and sponsorship revenue is up 20% while viewership is up 11%
Birdie man
I have no sympathy for players or owners. Let them all lose a season to see how good they really have it. People can’t afford groceries or utilities, yet guys who make more in per diem than some fans gripe about how they’re getting screwed? Owners charging $9 hot dogs and $15 beer, cry poor mouth? Tired of both of them.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
I think the solution is clearly a salary floor as well as a salary cap and more teams embracing the signing bonus/deferrals contract structure-
I think that cap can be as high as $300M but the floor would have to be high as well, like $175M or something.
The reality is that most low budget teams can actually afford to spend, they just don’t want to- the ownership knows the math where they can field a team that is “competitive” at $70M or whatever and the ownership pockets the difference and yes there are teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers who have such a strong international presence that they can afford to spend more- but the deferrals and the signing bonuses are really what is messing things up- if the Dbacks could pay Greinke, any team can pony up.
The other thing is- there have been teams in the past that were preferred destinations for international players (be it the Mariners, the Yankees, wherever), but somehow the Dodgers really figured out the formula to this between Ohtani, Yamamoto and Sasaki. They’re just three players, but when you look at the structures of their deals, of Mookie Betts’ deal…. a lot of teams can do this.
Part of the appeal for the players is that they understand that by taking less annually they afford the club the ability to sign more people of higher value and they’ll still get their money later, or they see value in waiting later in their life, post career, to continue collecting their money.
Why can’t more teams do this with some players and why don’t more players embrace this structure? If this system works so well for the Dodgers- paying a guy $2M or $5M or $7M a year on an AAV contract of $35M or $70M a year or whatever, why can’t other teams?
I think the other major issue is that cyclically, as teams collect a roster of generational talent, players will begin to gravitate toward them. It’s why 25 years ago some guys went with the Yankees whenever the option arose and its why in the mid 2010’s and early 2020’s a lot of guys went with the Astros whenever the opportunity arose, etc. and right now that team is the Dodgers. It can’t last forever and these rosters are never a guarantee to win the world series and dominate in such a way that the game is effectively rigged.
Super Clubs have losing streaks, balanced budget friendly clubs have winning streaks.
Yankees falling apart last year wasn’t because the Dodgers were so amazing- a lot of the Dodgers’ higher profile players didn’t play like gods during the post season- and on a long enough time line, the Dodgers would have experienced a losing streak and the Yankees would have locked in and the win-loss for the number of world series games would have been reversed.
So a lot of it is still luck, no matter how much talent and money one team has.
But even so- I think forcing teams like the A’s and the Pirates and the Marlins to spend more and forcing the Dodgers to not spend how they’re spending right now would help parity- but there’s no clear cut solution.
Some of it is just cyclical and we’re in a Dodgers cycle right now, much as it sucks.
O'sSayCanYouSee
Since when does a Cap mean parity?
The NFL had the Patriots dynasty…thought that couldn’t happen in capped leagues.
When was the last time the Wizards made the Finals…thought that couldn’t happen in Capped leagues.
I just don’t buy the Cap = parity and last time I’d seen data on this it also showed it’s a myth.
Upset people make bad decisions, and folks will come around and see how the Dodgers do over the long term.
zack novotny
I’m a HUGE dbacks fan and say no. What it boils down to is buying teams doesn’t always win games. We made it to the WS in 2023 by playing really well together. I think let teams spend as much as they want.
bravesfan
Why would I forgo any baseball for a cap when all these billionaires owners can do the same thing the dodgers are doing? And here’s the thing, I’m sick of people saying “small market teams cant” because the 100% can. Here’s what happened and what the only difference was, the dodgers have been pressure testing the deferred money model as a sustainable business model for years now, all while having a elite farm system and developing from within. What they could afford to do that other teams couldn’t was to do that pressure testing. Because it was very risky as no one had done it before. But then they saw they can do it and do it well and it was really a none issue. So they went crazy. And every other team is just late to the game. Now… I’m personally curious how they will be in 10-15 years…. I suspect they will be fine but, this obviously could completely blow up. But to force a salary cap? Na, that’s outrageous. This has stirred the most interest in baseball in a long time and everyone is going to hate the big bad dodgers and that desire to beat them is only gonna be better. Now it’s time for an AL team to do the same thing as them and build their own power house cough cough, Yankees….
Retroelectrik
I think the problem is becoming the disparity in the resources of the “billionaire” owners. MLB reminds me of the airline industry. Just because you can “afford” to start an airline, doesn’t mean it’s going to make you a lot of money. Baseball is becoming the same way. White Sox, Marlins, and the list will keep growing. Big market teams that can’t hit .500 baseball and have no attendance. In huge markets. It spells trouble down the road without a salary cap. If you need a new MLB-ready facility – ouch. Welcome to the Rays and A’s world.
Salzilla
With the offseason the Yanks have had, a Bregman, Arenado, or Arraez would put then in powerhouse mode already.
But yeah, building the way the Dodgers have done will take years for a team, IF that ownership even wants to go that route. It’s been said Hal Steinbrenner doesn’t do deferrals.
brucenewton
200 ceiling 160 floor. Salaries would rise by more than the normal 3-5%, at least initially.
Miken31
And the players will never agree to a $200 million salary cap. Think about that.
Captainmike1
Time to tell both the owners and players to go screw themselves
The cost of seeing a game is pathetic
Goose
There needs to be a cap, probably percentage of money, that can be deferred. I don’t see how in the long run the Dodgers don’t become a financial disaster.
steelehere83
The current rules for teams exceeding the CBT threshold are listed below.
“A club that exceeds the Competitive Balance Tax threshold is subject to an increasing tax rate depending on how many consecutive years it has done so.
First year: 20 percent tax on all overages
Second consecutive year: 30 percent
Third consecutive year or more: 50 percent
If a club dips below the luxury tax threshold for a season, the penalty level is reset. So, a club that exceeds the threshold for two straight seasons but then drops below that level would be back at 20 percent the next time it exceeds the threshold.
There’s also a surcharge threshold for clubs that exceed the base threshold by $20 million or more.
$20 million to $40 million: 12 percent surcharge
$40 million to $60 million: 42.5 percent surcharge for first year; 45 percent for each consecutive year after that
$60 million or more: 60 percent surcharge
Clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead”
The simple solution is to create a fourth tier (i.e. being $80 million over) that has even worse penalties.
Breaking rules would involve outright losing draft pick(s) as well as 100 percent surcharge on overages with the requirement that the paid surcharge must be paid out as salary to free agents by t(he receiving teams.
Tim Dierkes
I agree. And I think teams would, on the whole, spend less if you made the CBT hurt even more.
Something like this seems a lot more likely than a cap.
But I bring this up because I do wonder if owners will make one of the bigger cap pushes we’ve seen since ’94. Too soon to know that, but…it’s possible.
DroppedThirdStrike
I can’t see the PA allowing a cap. It’s a genie they’ll never get back in the bottle.
martevious
Just make the luxury tax much more severe
Chad Dare
No salary cap.
One draft for all amateur players.
Stiffer penalties for each level of the luxury tax.
Additionally, stiffer penalties for teams NOT spending.
davidrocholl
IMHO: Baseball needs to be left alone!! This past year’s World Series was played by 2 of the highest spending teams, and the best team won!! Not because of how much they spent, but because they got hot at the right time!! The year before(’23) was played by 2 #6 seeded W.C teams, and the best team won because they got hot at the right time. Yes sometimes spending is out of control, but the spending does not guarantee success. If you place a cap in baseball, the league will no longer receive the overage fees from the CBT taxes the teams pay, that some of which is going to pay the younger players the extra money they are not getting because they have not reached arbitration yet. I do agree that some things need to change, but a salary cap/floor is not one of them. Thanks for the speaking floor!!! Have a great night!! 26 days till teams start to report for spring training, I CAN’T WAIT!!!!
bjhaas1977
Put a salary cap in place and get ready for a new league. Introducing LIV Baseball! Bought to you by the Saudi Arabian government.
DirtyWater04
Here are my thoughts:
1. I don’t want a cap at all. If the owners want to throw around insane amounts of money to put a better product on the field, as a fan I welcome that.
2. In fact, more owners need to have that mindset. So rather than a cap, I want a floor. They don’t need to set a cap to set a floor, and the floor amount doesn’t need to be arbitrary. They can back into it by setting it at a certain level beneath whatever level of spending gets you to 49% of the previous season’s total leaguewide revenue. Divide that figure by 30, and there you go. Each team is required to spend that much at a minimum. Based on the 2023 league revenue of $11.34 billion per Statista, players should have been paid roughly $5.55 billion which works out to $185 million per team. Let’s say we set the floor at 80% of that, then every team would’ve been required to spend $148 million. The good news? That’s not that crazy! 14 teams already did that in 2024. Another handful were within shouting distance of it. This doesn’t have to turn into the NBA where you get complete random scrubs getting massive insane contracts like Timofey Mozgov in 2016.
3. The “Dodgers problem” can be fixed with some simple accounting rules. I have nothing wrong with deferring money as a concept, it is a great way to help the players spread out their income which can help with longevity and potentially reduce their taxes. It also helps teams because it allows them to pay players their worth without putting excess stress on year-to-year finances. There’s no reason to discourage deferred money, but it needs to be accounted for in a way that doesn’t give the mega market teams a tool to evade the luxury tax. So make a guy’s CBT earnings equal to the AAV of the contract. A 10 year, $700 million deal should be a $70 million CBT value, even if half of that money is deferred. Problem solved.
4. I’m for equal leaguewide revenue sharing of all TV/streaming money. Teams that are collecting more than they contribute to the revenue share pool should be required to spend a certain percentage of the difference on player salaries or have their entire share clawed back from the league if they don’t.
5. There needs to be an international draft. Clearly, the international bonus pool system hasn’t created a level enough playing field. Time to fix that and instill a draft.
Mo's Bowtie
Let’s imagine a real free market MLB. (1) No more baseball draft, every amateur is a free agent. (2) MLB teams contract with each other as to how much of the gate receipts, TV revenue, and any other relevant income stream the home team will pay to the away team for playing. (3) All teams can have no more than 120 players under contract at any time. This is the one basic rule that MLB members have to abide by to be in MLB. (4) Player contracts can be sold at any time. (5) Any player who doesn’t make a team’s 40 man roster within 5 years becomes a free agent. (6) Any player dropped from the 40 man becomes a free agent. (7) For items (5) & (6), the original contracting team is liable for any salary remaining under the player contract. Those contracts don’t count against the 120 player max. (8) By a vote of 75% of the teams, an underperforming team can be suspended from MLB or the ownership is forced to sell the team. Just some ideas for an orderly free market MLB.
DirtyWater04
I love free market economics, but the problem here is pro sports leagues are a cartel and not a free market. They are always going to be a cartel, so while free market thinking is almost always the answer in the broad economy it’s not always going to be the best answer in this market. First and foremost the goal of a cartel is to ensure the stability of the cartel. The current path MLB is on is not sustainable for the cartel because the smaller market teams are getting left behind by the financial behemoths. Giving even more advantages to the financial behemoths is not going to help solve anything.
Mo's Bowtie
Exactly, pro sports leagues are not a free market, because not anyone can form a team and join the league. About the only “free market” part of baseball is free agency. The league is a monopoly and the MLB players’ union is also a monopoly. When you have one monopoly bargaining with another monopoly, the outcome is indeterminate.. Minor league players get screwed because they aren’t in the union. Fans get screwed because we put up with an overpriced product.
Miken31
It doesn’t matter if anyone wants a salary cap or not, it’s never going to happen.
Tim Dierkes
I agree with the sentiment, but stop short of “never.” The idea that a group of 1,200 players that have never been tested on this will definitely never agree to a cap, I’m not convinced. I don’t know the percent chance that MLB breaks ’em, but it’s not zero.
Miken31
You don’t have to be convinced. It’s never. It’s 0%. The baseball union is so strong. It will not happen. Repeat it will not happen.
Tim Dierkes
We will have to agree to disagree on this.
You: 0%
Me: >0%
Miken31
OK, and when do we have a resolution to this? I mean there’s not an end date to never having something so how will I prove to be right? Do I have to wait 10 years to say I told you so? 20 years? I’m good with just saying it right now. Lol. I’m just having fun with you but honestly it’s not going to happen.
Tim Dierkes
We can never know who was right.
I believe it’s highly unlikely the players agree to a salary cap in the next CBA. Just don’t think it’s zero. If the owners ever give it a 1994-style shot again, they then also didn’t think it was zero.
Miken31
I think few things in life are ever definitive, but I feel so strongly about it I will say this, baseball isn’t getting a salary cap. Even if it does, that’s not the be all end all to all issues. But these players are never going to let their salaries get limited. That players union is too ferocious. You bring up 1994 well if they were ever going to get a salary cap it would’ve been then. The time has come and gone.
DroppedThirdStrike
The problem is that MLB has nothing to offer the PA that’s the equivalent of a cap. A floor is worth way less to them than not having a cap.
NMK 2
I’m not sure if I want a salary cap, but if it happened, there would need to be a minimum salary cap as well, and likely other concessions. Speaking of, forcing MLB owners to take a page out of the Atlanta Falcons playbook and charging reasonable prices for food/drink would also be a huge addition to such a package.
At the end of the day, the goal has to be to limit the runaway money everyone but the fans are seeing. Otherwise, you continue to jeopardize the future of America’s pastime.
mookie1
No cap is needed with 12 teams making the playoffs. All teams have enough revenue to field a team that can make the playoffs. The teams that consistently don’t make the playoffs make poor decisions, or pocket money that should be spent on payroll.
neoncactus
Will a salary cap also come with a ticket and comcessions price cap?
nanyuanb
A cap is an obvious solution but not a good one. If it is a sport management video game, then all managers should have equal resources. Now back to reality, many don’t realize that none of the owners or the players care about parity. MLB restricts the number of teams to 30 so there is a barrier to entry, securing the excess profit of owners. The MLBPA is less of a trouble but it is a monopoly when it can unify players and go on strike.
Americans don’t realize they live in a country controlled by monopoly and/or oligopoly, when the essence of your country is free market. Owners should be allowed to build new teams wherever they want; Fans should not be blacked out and they should have the freedom to watch all games they want, at their own cost of course; TV stations and online broadcasters should bid for broadcasting rights equally; Top 30 teams can compete in the major league but other teams can compete in lower level leagues for chances of promotion to the major.
Think more about free market, rather than market regulations. The owners are fooling you and making more and more profit by hypocritically calling for parity in the form of a salary cap.
Tim Dierkes
Good points here.
Particularly that owners nor players care about parity. They might start to if league revenue goes down, but that hasn’t happened.
Mo's Bowtie
As fans of English football (soccer) and Ted Lasso know, the worst teams in the English Premier League are relegated to a lower league until they improve.
Giantkiller000
I voted ‘yes’ to both, and I’m a Dodgers fan.
TellItGoodbye
I know people say things – like they will move out of the country if their candidate doesn’t win, yet few actually follow through with those dramatic claims. However, after a long talk with family and friends we have come to a group decision to not attend any MLB games this season. There’s no one thing, we just feel like the game is going down an ugly path. The Roki charade followed by the Tanner Scott signing was one F U too many coming from down south. So let the Dodger$ play the season alone, win everything they need to, and the rest of us will just carry on with our non-baseball lives. For what it’s worth, and I’m sure it’s basically nothing, we’re talking over 200 tickets, plus parking, plus food and miscellaneous. Caveat – if LA starts to lose like crazy, we will reassess!
ActionDan
What difference would it make? The Dodgers and wealthy teams would still skirt it by deferring money. Then the best international free agents sign with the wealthy teams because they are the Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox. The low market teams can’t keep up with them. The Rays and Guardians are an exception. They have a great player development department.
David Saltzer
There needs to be a salary floor, as in a team below the floor loses all shared revenue, all draft picks, all international money, etc.
More players would make more money by imposing a cap and floor than under the present system Middle relievers may have longer careers.
Superstars could still get paid market rates, but clubs would have to do be creative in balancing and drafting. They should probably offer the players an international draft with a slot system like the Americans go through. No more postings and no more postings or signing kids at 14.
And, I would also give up the entire 2027 year to get rid of the Manfred Man in the extra innings
I would be willing to see them continue to allow 1B to be stolen by a battery at any count. It would make every pitch more exciting
NoSubstitute
I couldn’t care less about a salary cap but if that’s what’s needed to get a floor I’m all in favor. Profligate spenders like the Dodgers don’t usually win championships but bottom feeders like my A’s just about never do. Maybe a decent floor would motivate penny pinchers like John Fisher to SELL THE TEAM!
NoNeckWilliams
The little metric club think that the owners pay the players’ salaries.
… adults know that that fans do
CJRed73
All this talk about a salary cap just because the Dodgers have signed what feels like every available free agent.
The Dodgers want to win. Teams are owned by billionaires who cry poor because if they sign a player to a 12 year, 500 million dollar deal then they won’t make a profit.
With a few exceptions, EVERY team can do what the Dodgers are doing but they won’t do it.
Wire to wire 2024
Wrong
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
Every team with a few exceptions can do what the dodgers are doing
No they can’t
The Dodgers are literally throwing the deferred money into essentially a savings account letting interest accrue and using that to pay off everyone’s deferred money.
When all is said and done they’ll be pay everyone off and make a small profit simply because of the banking aspect associated with their ownership group.
Not all ownership groups have anywhere close to that kind of financial power to back those kinds of investments
How many teams do you think have 680 million in available funds lying around to toss into a savings account for Ohtani? Serious question. I’d wager 5.
dpcollects
I’ve been trading seasons for decades. <~~~ Pirates fans #SellTheTeam
jerfbeezy21
All this because the Dodgers spent a bunch of money and won 1 World Series? We haven’t had a repeat champion since 2000 and now competitive balance is so off we need a cap? How about you let the next couple years play out…we seen this century, the Tigers, Cardinals x2, Marlins, Royals, Diamondbacks, Nationals and Braves all win WS Titles and the Rays x2, Royals x2, Tigers x2, Rockies, Diamondbacks, Cardinals x2 and Indians all make the WS…but now the games broken because the Dodgers spent a bunch of money and so far won 1 title? Just seems like a huge over reaction.
Whiskey and leather balls
Number of professional sports without a salary cap? Enough said. The dodgers made themselves their own worst enemy. Declining fan base and revenue but f it just sign who we want and pay them later? Come on. Under the table deals and a gambling gig which true or false would anger “every pete rose fan” and rightfully so. I love baseball, probably more than any of these admins (very serious about that statement) but just because i have more than most (also a reality) doesn’t mean i drive a vehicle thats less than 11 years old. Facts. Big markets have the most money and drive revenue but there is a reason why EVERY. SINGLE. OTHER.
Professional sport has a cap. Players themselves bite the bullet if they choose to play for a “super team”
Whiskey and leather balls
Adding to that and the ‘government’ investigating whatever it is they do for whatever reason they are doing it? Use your brain.
aragon
First $20 Million over the threashold, 100%. Second $20 Million, 150%. Next $20 Million, 200%. Anything over, 500%. And 80% of revenue sharing should be spent on roster every year.
Texas Trev
What’s more important is a salary floor that is tied to the luxury tax or salary cap. In the NFL, teams must spend at least 89% of the salary cap over a four-year period. Maybe in baseball that could be 70 or 80% including draft picks, international signings, minor league contracts and the like.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
Salary cap yes. Not all teams have financial resources as dodgers Mets Yankees etc
Capping or eliminating deferred money per year. Yes. Again not all teams like dodger Mets Yankees can toss lump sums of money into a bank associated with their ownership group let it mature the next 20 years and not owe Ohtani a damn thing cause interest will pay off what he’s owed and others money who they deferred as well.
Change it so the contract reflects cbt hits as signed not as reduced by deferred money? Yes.
Ifa draft? No. Just toss everyone into one draft pool and increase slot values for the first 30 rounds. Really no different than nba drafting high schoolers vs college players back in the day.
Would I lose a 2027 season over it? Sure would
MLB was literally ready to step in and veto judge to padres deal cause of deferred money structure but suddenly dodgers can play tax dodger cause it’s the dodgers. F that. Mlb willing to mess with one teams contract structures but not another shows the system needs fixing even if it costs mlb a season.
algionfriddo
As long as sucker taxpayers dump millions into building and maintaining stadiums the market will favor high salaries. Socialism for billioniares but no national health care. And these billioniares are paying less and less in taxes. Whatever.
BaseballGuy1
From the article… the most important…. “Assuming the MLBPA has enough solidarity under Tony Clark and Bruce Meyer to match its legacy,…..” And the MLBPA under Clark and Meyer is so weak they will never convince players to hold out. Way too much money being made by the players to do anything different.