As the Padres look to retool their roster ahead of the 2025 season, Dennis Lin of The Athletic reports that the club has entertained trade interest in both players that could reach free agency next winter and players under longer-term team control. In particular, Lin notes that the club has received interest in right-handers Dylan Cease and Robert Suarez as well as infielders Luis Arráez and Jake Cronenworth. It’s unclear whether or not the club is engaged in active negotiations regarding any of those players as things stand.
Cease and Arraez have both seen their names in the rumor mill frequently this winter, but Suarez and Cronenworth have been far less frequently discussed to this point. In fact, Lin himself suggested in early December that the Padres were inclined to keep Suarez at that point in the offseason. That the club has subsequently begun to entertain interest in the closer’s services is certainly worth noting. At the time, Lin relayed that Suarez’s trade value was complicated by the presence of an opt-out clause in his contract that would allow him to head to free agency after the 2025 season rather than receive $8MM salaries in 2026 and ’27.
Perhaps as the relief market has begun to develop, rival clubs have changed their evaluation of Suarez. With righty Jeff Hoffman landing a $33MM deal with the Blue Jays, veteran set-up man Andrew Kittredge securing a $10MM guarantee from the Orioles, and some reports suggesting closer Tanner Scott could land an AAV in the $20MM range this winter, it’s certainly feasible that the possibility of being on the hook for $26MM over three years if Suarez opts in has become more palatable. After all, Suarez’s 2.77 ERA in 65 innings as the Padres closer positions him as one of the better relief arms in the game and compares quite well with Kittredge in particular. With that being said, it’s also possible that the Padres have become more motivated to clear salary as the offseason has continued and are open to dealing Suarez even if the return is lighter than they would have accepted a month ago.
As for Cronenworth, it’s somewhat difficult to imagine the club getting a meaningful return for his services beyond salary relief. He was a perfectly serviceable infield option for San Diego in 2024, hitting a roughly league average .241/.324/.390 in 656 trips to the plate while splitting time between first and second base. That was enough to make Cronenworth roughly a two-win player according to both Fangraphs and Baseball Reference last year, a notable step up from 2023 but still well below the numbers he posted during his back-to-back All-Star campaigns in 2021 and 2022. With just over $72.7MM left on Cronenworth’s contract to be paid out over his age 31 to 36 seasons, the versatile infielder seems unlikely to be moved without the Padres eating significant salary or taking on another bad contract in return.
Interestingly, Lin suggests that the Padres would prefer to keep “at least” Arraez in the fold for 2025 out of those four names. That’s something of a surprise given Arraez’s hefty $14MM salary in his final year under team control and the fact that replacing him at first base could surely be done for much cheaper, thereby opening up payroll space to upgrade other areas. Even Lin acknowledges that Arraez’s pricey final year under contract could be an obstacle for San Diego as they look to retool their roster. With that being said, it’s possible that the market for Arraez hasn’t been especially robust. Few teams have been directly connected to the infielder this winter, and one rumored suitor was seemingly taken off the table when reports pushed back on the idea that the Yankees could have interest in acquiring Arraez to play second base for them in 2025.
However the club ultimately decides to go about moving salary, it seems all but certain they’ll need to make a trade or two before the season begins. RosterResource projects the club for a luxury tax payroll of just under $243MM in 2025, putting them about $2MM over the first threshold, with an actual payroll of just over $208MM. The club surely wants to duck under that first luxury tax threshold this winter, and previous reports have indicated that they want their final payroll to clock in below its current level while not necessarily dropping all the way back down to last year’s $169MM payroll. With clear needs in the outfield and rotation, it’s hard to imagine the Padres achieving all of their offseason objectives without moving at least one player due a significant salary in 2025, if not more.
When the Padres lose out on Roki to the Dodgers my guess is they will trade Darvish.
Nobody is trading for Darvish when he is under contract through his age 41 season.
I tend to agree. The Padres don’t seem to be in a place to send 8 figures in cash along with him.
After 2025 the Padres will owe Yu Darvish 3yr/46m covering his age 39-41 seasons.
Charlie Morton will have made 55m over those same age seasons. So Yu will be about 20% cheaper.
Charlie Morton had a wonderful career, but so has Yu. Not to mention Yu has 8+ pitches and has the distinction of the being the big league starter in the history of the game who needed the fewest starts in his career to reach 1500 K’s, beating Randy Johnson by doing so in around 10 fewer games.
With the going rate of pitching and Yu’s attributes he’s so low on my long term contract concerns in Padreland that I don’t see him being traded.
That’s all true. But very few teams can afford to take a 3/46mm gamble on an aging pitcher. That’s why Morton has received multiple 1 year deals.
Not to mention the full no trade clause that Yu has.
The idea that Yu will be traded is just unrealistic from the previous commenter.
Take a look at the difference between starts & innings pitched for Charlie & Yu over the last three years. Feel free to keep believing that nonsense you spouted afterwards, but understand why knowledgeable fans roll their eyes at your post.
The word but means that you think that what came before it in the sentence or phrase is not true.
In other words, you don’t believe your own statement that it is all true.
Nice contribution to the conversation, web. Very relevant.
/s
It doesn’t matter. I don’t think the padres have any interest in trading Darvish. Dude was also nails in the playoffs last year vs the dodgers.
They’ll take a hit if they trade him, but my guess is maybe $17M. My guess is that a 4-year deal, if he was a FA, would be $15/15/10/10.
The over the top rumors by some writers and many fans that the Padres are undergoing a fire sale are greatly exaggerated. They’re especially not likely trading their best players under long term or no trade contracts.
Nature apparently also abhors a journalistic vacuum ergo lots or ideas bandied about by fans and others. I’m sure the Padres (like any team) is open to entertaining and considering anything that will make their teams better. But I agree there isn’t any concrete evidence of a fire sale planned… and certainly not in process since it’s been so quiet. Will AJP make some trades before and possibly during the season… sure. The challenge is to make it something that helps now and in the future. Roki decision may be by the end of the week which once that happens, future direction of the team may become more clear.
Thank you. It’s always good to call out someone who is lying even to themselves.
Brew, the team simply does not have that many holes. Catcher is the only one that is dire, and Preller has a history of picking up backup guys that turn it around here. If Preller doesn’t get Profar to come back for a reasonable price, the Ornelas is next man up and he has finally come around at age 24.
The rest of the positions that need to be filled are on the bench. Not a big worry. The Padres best bench additions, Solano and Peralta, happened in April and May.
For those that don’t remember, at this point last season Profar and Cease were not Padres yet and the bench was Jose Azocar, Graham Pauley, Eguy Rosario, and Higashioka.
We didn’t know yet if Jakob Marsee or Jackson Merrill would be the opening day CF. The starting 3B on opening day was Tyler Wade because Machado was injured. I am ok with a bench in January that includes Wade and Rosario plus Lockridge and Sullivan.
Ironic, because weeks ago you argued with me that the Padres would NOT be trading players away for payroll reasons. Claiming there was no evidence it would happen. Now you’re saying:
“It’s always good to call out someone who is lying even to themselves.”
On a thread about the Padres trading away a large salary player.
I don’t think you understand the meaning of the word ironic, because there was nothing in my post that was ironic in the least.
I really don’t care what clickbait writers post to get you to look at their site or their Twitter post.
The Padres control person Eric Kutsenda and CEO Eric Greupner have said that they are going to have a payroll in 2025 between where they ended up in 2023 ($291 million) and 2024 ($227 million). They are at $241 million now.
What part of what the people that actually make those decisions have said points to cutting payroll?
The Padres have not traded anyone and when asked about those very players the GM has said that teams have asked about them. Nothing else. He has said unequivocally that they are not shopping them, nor have they entered into discussions about trading them.
The only, singular rumor about an actual trade discussion was Morosi saying during the Winter Meetings that Preller asked the Red Sox for Mayer, Abreu, Fitts, and Gonzalaz for Cease. Sounds more like making a huge ask knowing that the other team will say no than an actual discussion to me. Boston fans have all said F U regarding that trade proposal and obviously Cease is still a Padre. I will let you decide on that one.
While you have shown that you are lying to yourself with your own language used, the Padres have neither said nor shown anything that indicates they are cutting payroll.
Preller will make lemonade out of lemons.
Yu has a full NTC. As does Bogarts, Machado, Tatis and Musgrove. Croneworth has a partial NTC (14 team exclusion list).
To be expected, can always find a good closer for way cheaper.
Like Jason Adam or Jeremiah Estrada? LOL
Uh yes
That is fluff. Name them.
They need a catcher desperately. Suarez to Pittsburgh for Endy Rodriguez would be a good start. You are not going to convince Sasaki to come to SD to pitch to Campusano. Rodriguez has good behind the plate skills.
Pirates wouldn’t do that. The salary is too high for them and the two player options aren’t attractive to any team for a mid-30s reliever. Padres would have to eat almost all of it and throw in another player to get Endy.
How many Catchers does Pittsburgh need? Still going to use Bednar?
Why wouldn’t they stick with Bednar? What is attractive about Suarez for them? They are more than 2 years away from being competitive and he’s not a bargain. Also you can’t have too many catchers. And you can trade them for something better. Rays are probably calling Pittsburgh weekly.
How many Catchers does Pittsburgh need?
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Right now, they have 3 question marks at catcher. Endy is injured, Bart ended the season on a low note, and Davis might not be a catcher.
I doubt they’d trade any of them for a one-year closer who also ended the season on a low note.
Cease and Suarez
For
Endy, Keller, Bednar
Actually ends up being pretty even in salary and solves both teams problems in full
Pads can get more than that. Pirates aren’t going to push chips in for one year right now either. Maybe at the deadline if they look good.
Pads can get more prospects for sure
But as far as Major league return that’s a pretty nice package for them
Keller signed longterm at a rate they’re comfortable with.
Endy one of the top ML-ready catchers in the game.
Bednar salary swap with a lot of upside
For pirates Suarez obviously solves the closer situation.
Cease allows them to unload Kellers contract, while giving them an elite rotation in 2025
How does this solve the Padres “problem”?
Starting catcher and longterm quality SP(who will likely break out on Pads) at Ceases one-year rate the Pads were comfortable with
As a toss-in bednar gives them a closer option, if not just a quality back end reliever
Padres aren’t taking on Keller and his $15 M salary that escalates to $20M in 28. It defeats what they are trying to do.
Cease is going to get over 35 mil AAV next offseason
Keller’s contract fits what the Padres would be willing to do
You really don’t follow the Padres at all do you? Preller has not made the mistake of trading for a catcher that was anything other than a good defensive catcher since Nola. He won’t do it again.
Endy Rodriguez will probably not be a good defensive catcher going forward. At least not for a while. He had surgery to his throwing elbow in November of 2023, he was shut down in his rehab in September and has not returned to baseball activities yet, and there is a chance he will not be available at all to start 2025
If you think Campusano won’t be a big part of the Padres catching corp in 2025, you missed the reason for his slump last season and why he barely played after being sent down.
Campusano was hit on the left hand, the same one he had surgery on in 2023, by a swing by the dodgers Will Smith in May. He went on the IL for soreness to that thumb in June but played with that injury the rest of the season.
justbaseball.com/mlb/how-the-pirates-can-capitaliz…
Your point?
From the article – “Endy Rodriguez, a former can’t-miss prospect whose shine has faded in recent years.”
Keep reading.
Either say what you think the point is or go away. I have no time for your BS.
mlb.com/news/padres-2025-position-breakdown-catche…
Preller should have made a deal for Trevino. He would have been cheap and former Yankees catchers have been good for them. No way the Pirates trade a young catcher who was a top prospect and just finished his minors career with an OPS just short of .900 unless they are blown away. Suarez wouldn’t interest them. My money would be on them trading Bart and letting the youngsters battle it out for the season. They could also wait a year and option Endy to AAA. He just returned from Tommy John and they might take it easy on his return. This is the Pirates after all.
Why would the Padres care about “dropping under the threshold” of the luxury tax? Especially the first level.
Their problem is since the one good owner they ever had died those in charge now are committed to getting them back to what they had always been, a west coast version of the Bob Nutting Pirates.
Tbf, the padres don’t even know who their owner will be next year. But besides that, a lot of padres fans were ready to move on from Suarez after he had a bad final month of the season.
No Padres fans I know of were ready to move on. Where are those fans?
@websoulsurfer it was was everyday reddit. Robert has lost it, everyone has figured him out, he only has one pitch, he gives up way too homers, why is Scott not pitching every day til his arm falls off, etc.
Suarez went through a rough patch but got his changeup working again and finish well.
He got too carried away with only throwing his fastball because nobody was hitting it.
He got shelled in September. He looked better in the playoffs, but that was only three games.
It would be something special if he developed a third pitch of quality but he’s been what he’s been with the 2 pitch arsenal, maybe not quite elite as closers go, but probably to 5-8 in MLB. His rough patch in September paled in comparison to the drought Hader gave us for 2 months or so when we initially signed him.
That explains it. Stay away from Reddit.
He had only 2 bad games in September.
8 scoreless games.
2 games with one run.
1 game he gave up 4 runs.
1 game he gave up 2 runs.
the pirates have skenes making major league minimum and a current payroll of $79m don’t be ridiculous dude
Cronenworth makes a lot of sense for the Mariners.
Seattle needs to shed a bit of salary too but Cronenworth first then shed Haniger with a prospect and both teams will look better.
OK with moving Cronenworth, but that would have to a hell of a prospect if you want to offload Haniger.
I don’t know. If the Padres seriously need an OF, then trading bad contracts might be a win-win. But they’ll both wait until they’re sharing the Peoria complex in ST.
Cronenworth makes a lot of sense for the Padres to keep
Still seems to me like Cronenworth could make sense for Boston if the Pads include Cease. Maybe Cease and Crone for Yoshida and Rafaela plus a pitching prospect. Yoshi splits time between LF and DH, and Rafaela becomes a super utility/Defensive replacement.
He’d make sense for many teams at 2b, a 2 time all star on a reasonable $11M AAV contract. The Pads don’t have a better replacement for him this year or next so I really doubt they move him.
Brew-If they did that deal, Rafaela could essentially replace him, with Eguy coming up and splitting time around the IF with Bogy, and Arráez getting more DH AB’s.
Morosi said the Padres asked for Mayer, Abreu, Fitts, and Gonzalez for Cease alone.
If the Padres were sending both Cease and Cronenworth, expect them to ask for a lot more than Yoshida and Rafaela.
Yoshida is strictly a DH. He cannot play defense. He was bad in Japan and just as bad here and then he had surgery on the labrum of his shoulder on his throwing arm.
He is a platoon DH at that. He is owed $54 million over the next 3 years. He is a negative on any trade. A really, really good prospect would have to be added to the trade just to offload his contract.
As you said, Rafaela is a utility type player. Good to great defense, no bat. He has negligible value.
Going back to what they asked for Cease alone and factoring in that Yoshida is a negative on the trade something like this makes more sense.
Cease & Cronenworth to Boston
Yoshida, Rafaela or Abreu, Mayer, Fitts, Whitlock, Valera, + $36 million.
Still not sure that would be enough to get Preller to say yes.
Both Yoshida and Abreu are strictly platoon players and Yoshida is limited to DH. Rafaela is a glove only utility player. Mayer has not been able to stay healthy a full season in the minors yet. Whitlock is coming off a major injury, guaranteed $14 million over next 2 seasons, and set to go to the Red Sox pen.
Been saying the Padres should trade Suarez for a while given the payroll constraints but that opt out is killer.
He will be an FA next year. That needs to be built in. No way he opts in with a pay cut in 26.
Unless he’s injured, in which case it’s $16 million of downside.
Yeah. No need to put that 26th ranked payroll in any jeopardy of going up to 25th risk free. Good luck with Bednar and their 4 catchers.
Endy is barely a catcher.
Henry Davis is an absolute bust and he can’t catch.
What is Joey Bart? He’s probably their best Catcher.
I would not mind having both Suarez brothers on the Orioles
Call AJ now. Lines are open.
No room in the bullpen for Suarez. Can’t have a bullpen without any minor league options.
Same problem Milwaukee has even after the Williams trade. Need at least 1 BP arm that can rotate with triple-a. Common problem with teams that recently had stacked farm systems.
Looking at their grim long term payroll outlook, I’m not sure how much longer preller can rob Peter to pay Paul before it needs to get torn down.1 year, maybe 2?
I agree. The Padres have so much money owed to aging, declining players. That, plus the ownership controversy dim the Padres’ future. I’m amazed that Preller is still GM. Seems to me he’s made too many mistakes.
Did Preller make mistakes or did he do what Peter Seidler asked him to do?
They’ve set attendance records each of the past three years and season tickets are all sold out in 2025.
Their payroll was a good 100m lower then the teams that were right behind them in attendance.
They definitely have a lot of future commitments, but they also have a ton good going forward. Getting Salas and De Vries to pan out to go with Tatis and Merrill would be huge filling two key positions cheaply.
Tatis and Merrill will be 26 and 22 next season. Hard to think of a better duo in Padre history at similar ages with long term control.
Teams that are selling out 50 times a year are in better shape then the Padres are getting credit for.
If things are as tight as being indicated, the selling out thing is bad. Not good. Put a big red line through driving some revenue through increased attendance. The only way to do that when you already sell the place out is to increase the prices. Out of curiosity, are ticket prices increasing in Padre land ?
Tatis gets paid like an MVP caliber shortstop. Problem is he’s ’only’ an all star caliber right fielder.
Darvish, Cronenworth & Boegarts contracts are underwater, crippling a once promising future.
But, the place sells out & the ownership is making money hand over fist.
Yay!!!
What about the Machado contract?
I watched a thing recently. Went through the 10 worst from 2027 forward.
Machado was the clear winner. In 2027 he will be 34 and is owed something like 280 over the next 7 years.
I can’t remember no 2. Fried was 3. Seagar (I think) was 4 and Bogaerts 5.
Wallabee – Tatis is only making 3m more than Michael Conforto in 2025. Of course when you factor in the luxury tax the Dodgers will really be paying him around 50% more then the Padres will be paying Tatis.
He’s a bargain at what they’re paying him. Not to mention he’s their biggest draw.
For his age 26-29 seasons they will pay him a total 4/92.8m. Over the next 5 years they will pay him 129.5m. For reference between the 75m signing bonus and his 2025 salary Soto will be making nearly that much (126.875m) next year alone.
If tatis was a free agent right now he would 100% be signing a deal greater than his current deal.
He is 25 years old, he has massive surplus value. The guy is going to be a monster for years to come.
It’s a business. That’s the order of caring: sellouts and making money over winning is how this works. If you think otherwise, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
If Tatis were a FA now he’d be signing a contract close to what Soto just signed
@padrepapi the sell outs are great, the problem is the money already committed keeps escalating each year more and more. By the time you get to 2026 and 27 it’s just ridiculous with just a few guys already weighing down the rest of the roster like an anchor. My biggest concern is that going all in in 2023 cost them a chance to resign someone like Michael King or maybe even Jackson Merrell down the line
He going to be playing money ball that’s for sure.
Feels like one of AJ’s mega trades is coming.
Cease and Suarez to the Cubs for Javier Assad (Tijuana native) and Owen Cassie (originally a Padres prospect who was the main piece in the Darvish trade and is blocked by Happ and Suzuki and their NTCs).
lol
I wonder if the Padres window is closing. They had a fairly solid year in ‘24, finishing not far behind the Dodgers, then swept the Braves and just missed upsetting LA. Now they’re talking about cutting payroll and ducking way below the tax line. So now they’re further behind Los Angeles and Arizona seems to have passed them for sure. If they get rid of all or some of the guys they’re talking about trading, do they have enough to hang in the intense NL West?
They don’t have enough as is even before payroll-reducing trades. Preller is going to need some pretty miraculous trades to pull another rabbit out of his hat like he did last year. Just so hard to be moving quality major leaguers while looking primarily for guys who can help now.
They had their 2nd highest win total in 2024 in their 55 year history. All after cutting payroll by over 80m from the season prior and losing some serious talent. So calling it a fairly solid year doesn’t quite sum it up.
To think they would hit 6 homeruns against LAD in LA (tying a single game playoff record) and having them on the ropes to going 2+ games without scoring was a harsh end to an amazing season.
Baseball can be funny. Not unlike the Dbacks going to the World Series one year and then missing the playoffs the following year (despite scoring the most runs in the league).
They definitely could have won the WS last year but it’s hard to see the path from here. Holes in the rotation, catcher, left and somewhere in the IF depending on where everyone lands. With the desire to actually cut payroll it’s even harder to see how it works. Sasaki feels like an absolute necessity.
Last year we nailed the Soto deal and we need something similar with Cease this time around
What a sunny picture you’ve painted!!
In reality, the ‘success’ of the Pobres season is based on finishing the season in second place, winning two postseason games against a bunch of randos dressed in Braves uniforms & winning two more against a team with a 2.5 man rotation.
So, that totals out to 4 of the 13 victories required for a WC team to be crowned champion. Less than a third of the way…
Padres aren’t in any worse spot this year than last year.
Here is the list of players the padres added from this point last year.
Profar, Cease, Arraez, D Peralta, Solano, Scott, Adam, Perez.
Point being late in the offseason bargains can be found. The Padres have a top 3 in the rotations of..
Cease, King, Darvish.
A lineup of…
Arraez, Tatis, Merrill, Machado, Xander, Cronenworth.
Suarez makes sense to move because they have a deep pen. Cronenworth also makes sense to move if they want to keep Arraez.
If they moved them both that free’s up over 21m. They could resign Profar. Perhaps they bring in rizzo on a cheap deal. As well as Peralta and Solano. If by some miracle Roki signed with them they would be even better than last year.
They have less to do as the roster is more complete now than it was this time last year, even with Musgrove out.
where are you seeing it reported that they want to be “way” below the tax line.
no where.
It hasn’t been said by FO but it has been concocted and continually perpetuated by some media (including mlbtr). True or not, a story has hatched. And it’s not the first time. You know smaller market teams aren’t supposed to compete, it irritates the establishment.
Im certain they intend to put a competitive team on the field this year, even if they have to cut a small amount to duck under the CBT.
In a world where you have Cease, King, and Arraez as potential free agents that would garner a qualifying offer and net the padres a comp pick – getting under the CBT is really crucial.
And yes, there is a scenario where Arraez merits a comp pick. He just needs to bounce back to his 2022-2023 level. Definitely a good chance of that if the torn ligament in his hand is healed.
Here’s something that is kinda telling to me:
Padres payroll/avg attendance rank:
2024 – 15th/4th
2023 – 3rd/3rd
2022 – 5th/5th
2021 – 6th/3rd
2019 – 24th/14th
2018 – 25th/18th
2017 – 28th/18th
Despite spending more $ and seeing a huge upturn in attendance (as much as 33% increase from pre Covid #s) they still don’t see value in spending more $
There needs to be a third column labeled “results.” Spending with no return normally has a negative effect.
In my opinion, teams have 2 options:
1) Spend and try to compete every year with at least promising results.
2) Rebuild with a promising group of young players/prospects. This also needs promising results. Either by the team or the kids.
The In-between is where most teams fall flat. A few high-priced players mixed in with being cautious with younger guys’ service time.
I’ve been following MLB for over five decades. Almost every owner not named GEORGE Steinbrenner refused to see the positive correlation of spending more to succeed overall.
Over and over again I have witnessed owners producing results as you just wrote but reaching the conclusion that they needed to slash the payroll and giving reasons through the media – who backed the ownership 100% – that made no sense.
You really think they don’t see it ? George was the only one ?
How about they see it, but their team’s finances don’t allow them to do it ? Is that not the most logical thing going on here ?
Baffles me that fans just flat out refuse to acknowledge that teams have budgetary limits. There is so much evidence pointing to that. Just gets ignored. Super weird.
What is “super weird” is you not seeing the bloodsucker looting the market his team controls when it’s right in front of you.
Who are you talking about ?
What’s not in here is the padres lost 60m a year in their tv deal after the 22 season. That’s the difference between the spending now and 23.
People act like the padres aren’t spending money. They have a tax of 243m and a payroll of 208m. This isn’t a major market team. It’s a team with no tv deal spending that kind of money. They are basically capped at spending right now unless they get a new tv deal. There isn’t much more revenue they can make from attendance.
This isn’t a fire sale this is a balancing of the budget. They will be doing this every year for the next decade. That’s how long these big money contracts have left.
Translation. “Teams have called the Padres about Robert Suarez and Preller listened to their offers even though he has ZERO intention of trading him.”
But that is not as much of clickbait and no one would read an article with an honest headline.
More like, ‘ AJ is 1000% backed into a corner and desperate for anyone to take about $15mil off his books.’
But you won’t believe that until ‘the teams says so!’
If the padres wanted to move 15m in payroll they would have done so easily. They are only willing to do so for the right trade.
Cease could be traded in .5 secs if they wanted to move him.
Translation: Teams see that Suarez had a 5.24/4.47 ERA/FIP over the final two months, and aren’t eager to trade for his one-year contract with player options.
His stuff didn’t change, and RP that have a few blown saves can see their ERA jump in the short term. Happens to all of them. Given his body of work, ideal closer mentality, and an actual increase in MPH on fastball end of last season to 102, many would eagerly pursue him especially given his friendly contract. Though the Pads are not shopping him at all.
I called, The Padres will end up like the Tigers after Mr ilitch death. Owners like Seidler and ilitch are the exception, not the rule, this is the beginning.
I am afraid you are right. It was fun while it lasted. The contract that will hurt the most of all the ones P. Seidler greenlighted is X. Bogearts. I don’t see the Padres ever getting out from that one.
And that extension to Machado.
I doubt Bogaerts ever lives up to his contract ( nor will Manny) but i do think he’ll be a better hitter when healthy, which he hasn’t been since a Padre. Still, never liked the signing and think AJ did it for Peter. Now the Seidler brothers need to stand behind that commitment with $ or they should come clean and stop telling us they plan to uphold Peter Seidler’s legacy.
Padres the next 5 years: 3 massive contracts, Jackson Merrill, and AAA/AAAA players to round out the roster.
If this is their way forward the next thing is the baseball “writers” claiming the Padres have “financial problems” the details of which will forever remain unpublished and they need to move Machado, Tatis etc.
In a few years the Padres will be back to sub $100 million payrolls and not one “writer” will ever mention the $240 million plus payrolls they ran previously.
It’s truly a wonder how these baseball “writers” forget such facts.
Guys like Tatis and Machado will be absolute bargains if they continue being productive the next couple years, and would each get absolute HAULS if the Padres decided to trade them..and no trade clauses can almost always be worked out with the player.
Tatis for sure
Padres should definitely be open to trading anyone who isn’t under contract long term.
They certainly could use some cheap controllable players to go along with the Tatis Jr, Machado, Bogaerts, Cronenworth, Darvish, Musgrove, contracts.
Say
Minnesota gets Dylan Cease
Padres get
OF Keaschall to play LF
1 of RHP Andrew Morris or Corey Lewis to replace Cease in the rotation as an mlb ready pitcher
RHP Cj Culpepper
C/OF Ricardo Olivar
I’d trade King to the Tigers
I’d ask for
Jace Jung or Colt Keith to play 1B
C/1B Thayrion Liranzo
RHP Ty Madden
RHP Alex Faedo to replace King in the rotation
LHP Lael Lockhart
Id trade Suarez to the Red Sox for
SS Franklin Arias
RHP Luis Perales
2B/SS Mikey Romero
RHP Hunter Dobbins
DH- Arraez
RF-Tatis Jr
3B- Manny Machado
CF – Jackson Merril
SS- Bogaerts
1B- Jung or Keith
LF- Keaschall
2B – Cronenworth
C- Campusano
Rotation
Darvish
Faedo
Vasquez
Morris or Lewis
Sign a lefty Quintana, Heaney, Uruquidy who could come back in June or so.
With Brito, Perales, Culpepper, Madden, Lockhart as depth
I’d bring back Kirby Yates and sign Carlos Esteves to the pen. Bring back tanner scott with money saved trading Cease, King, Suarez.
“Oh but if you trade them you’re punting on 2025!”
Yeah people said same thing about dealing Soto.
Would you rather have King Cease Suarez for 1 year and QO picks after 4th round or Jung/Keith,Keaschall, Morris/Lewis, Faedo, plus money to sign a veteran lefty, Yates, Esteves, and Scott plus some prospects for the farm? Obvious answer is the second choice
Would be the worst rotation in baseball.
Twins won’t spend, so they won’t take Cease’s arb cost back in a trade.
King isn’t getting all of that from the Tigers when he’s a rental.
Suarez isn’t getting half of that return from the Red Sox.
Saurez isn’t even getting Arias in return.
No thanks that rotation is total trash.
Imagine typing all those letters and numbers and spaces just to end up saying “Darvish, Faedo, Vazquez” as your top 3 in the rotation. Like why even waste his own time with that nonsense, no less ours?
All these players the Padres are supposedly shopping, but no trades. Actions speak louder than words and the Padres actions have been to not trade anyone.
Or sign anyone. They haven’t done anything and they’ll need to do something before the season starts.
They have plenty of time.
Cronenworth for Stroman
And yankees eat all of stroman’s contract. Padres aren’t trying to trade cronenworth to add more payroll this this year and possibly next year.
The Padres wouldn’t even do that if the Yankees ate 7m of stromans deal.
Cease and suarez for adolis garcia and bradford?
This is the 75th article from mlbtr saying the same thing. Yet the padres haven’t traded anyone.
Doesn’t mean they won’t trade anyone but they aren’t in a hurry to do so either. My guess is the Padres will wait on Roki and then decide what to do.
They have several different options and likely will move someone if the return is good enough. They don’t seemed to be interested in just moving someone to save money. They could have done that already.
The sad news is that with Campusano as the catcher of the moment, Roki probably passes. Campusano is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball. Dead last in DRS. Terrible at framing and a low teens at CS.
They will very likely add a vet defense-first C this year and Roki no doubt sees Salas coming, who is elite with pitchers.
Maybe the Twins would consider a straight up Christian Vasquez for Suarez deal. He is a better than average catcher. Much better than Campusano. Only issue is no payroll savings.
Twins would definitely take that. Padres wouldn’t.
Unfortunately—-San Diego can’t out spend the Dodgers for the Top Quality ball players. Hopefully San Diego can maintain enough quality players to make the playoffs each season. Just as with Arizona and the Rangers, With a little luck, a World Series appearance could very well be written in the cards for them.
The narrative that the padres dont spend is tiresome. Theyve spent on Tatis, machado, darvish, musgrove, bogaerts and croenworth (for better or worse on some of these). Unfortunately most teams have a budget.