Late last week, the Orioles added veteran right-hander Charlie Morton to their rotation mix on a one-year deal. On paper, the addition (alongside the club’s one-year deal with Tomoyuki Sugano earlier last month) would appear to fill their rotation. Things may not be that simple, however, as Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported this morning that Baltimore remains in the market for upgrades even after adding Morton to their rotation mix.
As noted by Rosenthal, the Orioles already have a fairly deep rotation mix as things stand. Morton and Sugano are joined by Zach Eflin and Grayson Rodriguez as locks for the club’s rotation next year, with Dean Kremer poised to round out the starting five. Rosenthal suggests that veteran journeyman Albert Suárez could pitch in as the club’s sixth starter if the Orioles opt for a six-man rotation this year, but even if they stick with just five starters Suárez figures to slot into the bullpen as a swing-man who can move back into the rotation as needed. Cade Povich, Trevor Rogers, and Chayce McDermott are all available as depth options behind that group, as well.
If Baltimore were to add another starter, it seems likely that Kremer would be the odd man out. The right-hander made 24 starts for the Orioles last year and pitched to decent results, with a 4.10 ERA (92 ERA+) and a 4.32 FIP in 129 2/3 innings of work. That’s perfectly solid production for a fifth starter, but those numbers also shouldn’t prevent the Orioles from upgrading their rotation mix and squeezing Kremer out of the picture. After all, the right-hander has been at least slightly below average by measure of ERA+ in every season of his career except 2022, when he pitched to an impressive 3.23 ERA in 125 1/3 innings of work in a career year.
Kremer, who is arbitration eligible for the first time in his career this winter, has a minor league option remaining that could offer the Orioles some flexibility if the club decides to add further to its rotation. Speculatively speaking, however, it’s also possible that the club could consider offering the right-hander as part of the return to land a starter on the trade market. Kremer has three seasons of team control remaining, so offering him up in order to land a rental pitcher like Dylan Cease would be a risky move given the fact that Morton, Sugano, and Eflin are all already ticketed for free agency next winter. That said, it seems feasible that Kremer could make sense as part of the return for a controllable arm such as Luis Castillo or Pablo López.
Rosenthal previously reported that the Mariners have some pause about dealing Castillo given their lackluster rotation depth behind the current starting five, which could make the Orioles a particularly good trade partner if they’re willing to make Kremer or even one of their younger arms like Povich available. Rosenthal reports that the Mariners are requiring major league talent in return for Castillo’s services this winter, while noting that Baltimore seems reluctant to deal from its cache of young position players. Perhaps a package focused on Kremer and first baseman Ryan Mountcastle could make some sense for both sides, then, offering Seattle a pair of arbitration-level players with multiple years of control while landing the Orioles the controllable, front-line starter they’ve been seeking.
Of course, the trade market isn’t the only way that Baltimore could upgrade their rotation. Former Oriole Jack Flaherty is still available on the free agent market, and the club was frequently connected to him prior to the club’s deal with Morton. If the Orioles remain in the market for rotation upgrades even after adding Morton to the fold, it stands to reason that Flaherty remains at least a potential fit for the club’s needs despite some recent reporting that has suggested the club could balk at the righty’s asking price. Flaherty seems certain to land a multi-year deal this winter, with reports indicating he’s angling for a five-year pact. Such an addition would offer Baltimore a bit more certainty in its rotation for 2026 and beyond by allowing them to project a starting five that includes Flaherty, Rodriguez, and Kremer for next season alongside Kyle Bradish, who could return from elbow surgery at some point in the second half this year.
Moving beyond the possibility of further rotation upgrades, Rosenthal adds that the Orioles hope to supplement its bullpen mix this winter. The biggest addition to Baltimore’s relief corps is sure to be the return for closer Félix Bautista from Tommy John surgery, but it stands to reason that the club could use at least one veteran arm to join Seranthony Domínguez, Yennier Cano, Keegan Akin, and Gregory Soto among the club’s potential late-inning options ahead of Bautista. While Baltimore has not been directly connected to any specific relievers in this year’s free agent market, they figure to benefit from the fact that there’s been minimal movement on the relief market to this point in the winter if the club decides to hold off on adding bullpen help until later in the winter.
Big whiffa
They should overpay for Scherzer next. They got like 7 starters already. Bring in max, let him open games through July then build up his workload to pitch in the post season
PutPeteinthehall
Ever had a pain in the neck? Worst thing ever. JV is a much better bet than Max.
GoGreen
JV was on the IL as recently as 8/21/24 for a neck issue.
Fever Pitch Guy
Pete – The O’s should be all over Monty, he would be a much bigger help than Morton.
YankeesBleacherCreature
They should sign Flaherty long-term. O’s need to make a push while Gunnar and Adley are still around. Both Max and Scherzer are high-risk/high-reward. They’re not even close to the first CBT threshold.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Except Flaherty isn’t worth it – He pitches like a 4,3 and a#2 type starter and wants too much money
Not a real upgrade to what they have already
camdenyards46
Already had Flaherty once and he was terrible and more importantly did not mesh with the clubhouse
danumd87 2
Except flaherty is exactly the wrong guy. He’s inconsistent and expensive. He guarantees you little, if anything. And he would likely prevent them from making other moves over the length of his contract. He is quite literally the worst possible addition they could consider.
Rsox
Scherzer is never going to agree to be an opener so that kills that from the get go
dodgerz88
Trevor is the best fa on the market. And he’s cheap
Raconteur
Is this still a thing?
danumd87 2
Apparently
Letsgolos
Kremer and Mountcastle seems very fair for Castillo… M’s fans coming in saying why it isn’t enough in 3, 2, 1…
Canuckleball
The problem is Kremer would be at least somewhat of a downgrade from Castillo, and Mountcastle, while a 10-15% better then average hitter for Baltimore, might prove to be a league average hitter in Seattle.
In the end, this could well be a move that saves Seattle money (if no money is exchanged) but would be an overall performance downgrade.
Unless, of course, Mountcastle could be one of the lucky few whose numbers aren’t hurt playing in Seattle. If he could maintain his levels, this would be a decent deal.
The_Porcupine
Any hitter coming to seattle will have tgeir production downgraded. I think the orioles would need to send a minor leaguer (a meh type prospect) in addition to kremer and montcaslte anyway.
Canuckleball
Justin Turner just last year hit notably better after getting to Seattle. It’s rare, but it does happen.
steveguy13
I think you would get the same production out of mountcastle from 2024 in Seattle given he had to play with that wall in Baltimore.
deweybelongsinthehall
Trades have risks. That said, I’d rather have the O’s players mentioned over Castillo who likely will not pitch as well in Baltimore with left field being moved in. Others talk about the hitter changing stadiums but what about the pitchers?
dm867
Steveguy13 I was going to say exactly this.
stymeedone
What are you expecting for Castillo? Someone younger, cheaper and better than Castillo, along with an affordable, above average 1B? I want what you’re drinking.
deweybelongsinthehall
Me too. I basically said the same thing…
danumd87 2
It’s probably a best case scenario deal for Seattle. And it’s important to consider the reality that ANY deal is likely to be a performance downgrade when dealing a quality SP. It’s about getting cheap)er) talent back and opening payroll space. Sincerely, this sounds like an absolute best case scenario win of a deal for Seattle
cwsOverhaul
Mariners can probably get a stopgap cheap FA 1B pretty easy and focus on using Castillo (or another SP) to land a 3B.
The_Porcupine
What 3b is available other than bregman (who wont sign there) and bohm (who isnt good enough to warrant trading castillo)
Susannah
Ryan Moutcastle, Dean Kremer, and Ramon Urias? Is that a good package? The Oriole Park was even worse park to hit than Seattle with the wall for right handed hitters.
O'sSayCanYouSee
Susannah — Your right about the park effect. I don’t think M’s fans understand how surpressed Mountcastles stats were. If I’m the Orioles, I’m keeping Mounty at least until deadline so the new dimensions can increase his value.
The wall in Baltimore hurt Mounty more than anyone else. Seattle would see his numbers go up, and if they don’t see it that way, the O’s would be dealing him at a low. As I see it anyway…
mynameisjeff253
As an Ms fan, as long as Os eat most of Castillo’s money (very team friendly deal), I would do that trade and wouldn’t look back. O’s likely decline that trade sadly.
danumd87 2
1b is among the weakest positions in the sport. Who is this phantom free agent you’re acquiring? Kremer (3 years) and Mountcastle (2 years) would be a relative coup for Seattle.
Can we please get a DH?
Mariners can get Turner who is the same as Mountcastle and keep Castillo who is better than Kremer.
To justify moving Castillo, the saved $24M from Castillo and not signing Turner would have to have a very specific use to make the move make sense (e.g. Bregman).
bob9988 2
Castillo and Turner/Raley are better than Mountcastle and Kramer. That’s why Seattle won’t do this.
stymeedone
But Mountcastle, Kramer, and $20mm are better than Castillo, Turner, and nothing more.
WadeBoggsWildRide
And Castillo will probably post an ERA above 4.50 for the O’s.
danumd87 2
Precisely. I doubt Kremer/Mountcastle are available bc if they were Seattle would have made the deal already. They’ve got a pretty mediocre FO over there but they’re not actually stupid. They knew acquiring those pieces and payroll relief would be a best case scenario.
deweybelongsinthehall
What about the financials and who says? Turner is another year older and Kramer in Seattle might be better than Castillo. There are no guarantees.
Can we please get a DH?
The problem is the saved money is not very useful at this point, unless Seattle wants to get into the Bregman sweepstakes which seems highly unlikely.
Otherwise, the Mariners give up a fringe all star starter on a reasonable deal for a 5th starter and a roughly average 1B whose value comes primarily against LHP to save about $13M this year.
That would increase their budget to about $29M (Bregman territory). However, if they don’t get Bregman, there aren’t many other options that would make sense to spend on. If they add Mountcastle, they don’t need Alonso. Ha-Seung Kim is out for a while and his shoulder injury puts significant questions on his ability to play 3B.
Honestly, a deal around Ramon Urias over Mountcastle would make more sense as it would enable a Pete Alonso signing if his market falls which makes more sense.
The_Porcupine
Ive felt baltimore depth at the infield corners matched up well with seattles cobble the infield together strategy. Kremer and urias arent enough to get castillo
danumd87 2
Seattle fans valuation of Castillo (I.e. fringe all star) is really difficult to read over and over again. The guy has declining peripherals and is on the wrong side of 30. He’d a good 3 – with risk. That’s it. We need to have a shared reality to have reasonable discussions and Seattle fans are not doing their part.
Kybowren
Castillo since becoming a Mariners has been the 13th best pitcher in the league and would slot in as the most accomplished pitcher in the Orioles rotation even if Rodriguez has more upside. Castillo offers stability and consistency. We aren’t overvaluing him we are telling you what he is worth to our team so if we are getting rid of our ace we need back equal value to our team and the money alone isn’t enough because at this point we don’t have many options to use that money left on the board and most players won’t even take Seattle’s money when it’s offered anyways.
C Yards Jeff
I think the Os are keeping Mountcastle.
O’Neil signed in part to take pressure off Mounty (and Mayo to an extent) as a rh thumper duo in 2025. Mix that in with a friendlier LF wall dimension and BOOM a combined 55 to 60 dinger number could easily happen. Yes? No? Maybe?
gorav114
Mounty isn’t the surprise to me, it’s Ohearn. Not sure where he fits if you are trying to also get at bats for Mayo and Krejstad. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets put on waivers if he starts slow
Big whiffa
Ms passed on casas and yoshi for Castillo there’s no chance Ms consider kremer and mountcastle
The_Porcupine
I thought the sox wanted one of the other 3 pitchers, not castillo
kwolf68
They did. The comment you responded to is bs
KingKen
That was what Boston initially proposed from their side. The Ms said no. Then the Ms came back offering Castillo for Casas and Boston said they’d do it if Seattle took Yoshida as well as Casas. The Ms said no to that.
Big whiffa
That’s not bs. RS offered cases for woo. Ms countered casas for Castillo and RS counter yoshi and casas for Castillo and Ms said no.
Read all that here
So if Ms won’t take those two for Castillo no way they take an inferior pair from orioles
WadeBoggsWildRide
Interesting. Seattle is too cheap to take Yoshida
Can we please get a DH?
They don’t want Yoshida’s very under water deal which is why they declined Casas + Yoshida.
Big whiffa
I like yoshi in Seattle ! He’s not a power hitter anyway so he’d fit into that ballpark – it would play to his strengths
Can we please get a DH?
You don’t understand TMobile. TMobile only plays to power hitters. It’s a miserable place for singles, doubles and triples because of small OF.
Yoshida for Haniger is a deal I still think should be done, but Mariners don’t have room for Yoshida + Casas because they also have Raley.
lloyd_christmas
Do you happen to know a guy named ichiro? He might have something to say about that
Atloriolesfan
Yoshi was a poison pill. Casas for Castillo was a no brainer.
The Os would deal Kremer, Mountcastle AND Urias for Castillo and the CBA pick (who wouldn’t reach SEA in time to save DiPoto’s job anyway). If DiPoto says no, just call Falvey and get Pablo Lopez instead.
DiPoto is going to overplay his hand and end up with 3 IF holes. Elias can fill two of them, but doesn’t need to beg, because he’s got multiple options.
danumd87 2
No need at all to give up a pick. We’re talking 32 yo Luis Castillo here. No team is giving up legitimate young assets for him
bwmiller79
Why would the Mariners take Mountcastle and Urias for Castillo?
Neither improve their current lot of players. They have better options on their farm. If they are going to trade Castillo it has to be for an impact bat.
gorav114
Mountcastle is a 3 war player going into his prime. He also did that in a stadium that surpresses his strength indicating he wont fall off any in Seattle. He is def a middle of the order impact bat. Urias is a gold glove 3rd baseman that can get hot for stretches at the plate and will at least not be a liability with the bat. Covers everyday starters at both 1st and 3rd at little cost and sheds Castillo salary.
danumd87 2
They obviously don’t have better options than Mountcastle in their farm bc they don’t have better options on their mlb roster and they claim they’re trying to win so…
danumd87 2
They passed ENTIRELY bc of money. They’d likely happily accept this deal largely bc of MONEY.
Optimistic M's Guy
lol thats because its literally not. Doesnt matter if we have to add in a prospect or reliever, but you aren’t getting him for less than Mayo. If you say Castillo and a 10-15 prospect for Mayo, then all done. You get a great pitcher for years. But you don’t give up a pitcher of that quality for your spare parts.
The Usual Suspect
@ Optimistic. The O’s would get a 32 year-old good pitcher for 3 years. Not a great one. Maybe if the M’s paid 1/2 the contract down, they could start bringing Mayo into the conversation. Otherwise, it’s an easy “no.” I’m not a fan of either the M’s or the O’s, so I’ve got no pony in the race. I think you’re overvaluing Castillo significantly.
Can we please get a DH?
I actually think Castillo + $37M + Morales for Kremer + Mayo would make sense. It saves the M’s $12M this year which would allow them to sign Alonso, addresses 3B and gets someone to be in the 5th starter mix.
The O’s end up with Castillo on a 3yr/$37M which is an insanely good deal and gives them so long term rotation stability which they currently lack outside of Bradish and Rodriguez.
Kybowren
The point is the Mariners are not desperate to trade Castillo they are willing to trade him but they are completely fine with keeping him as well. Also the incentive to trade him has become more limited because players they wanted to sign with the savings of trading him have already signed elsewhere.
camdenyards46
Castillo makes alot of money and therefore does not have much surplus value
gorav114
You always forget about the money. Yes Castillo is worth Mayo if all things are equal. He’s not worth Mayo when you consider the salary of both
danumd87 2
Lolol. You’re not getting Mayo for miller but you think you wood for Castillo? Teams don’t trade top young prospects at all anymore but you think 32 yo Luis Castillo is going to be that guy? LOLOL. your drugs are amazing. Thank your dealer
Bird4Life
Yes also because they’re less than $10m combined and would shed $15m off Seattle’s payroll. But I’m sure they’ll ask for Westburg
BadMojo
LOL maybe you should watch a game or two before making comments like this?
merrilld
Because, Mountcastle. Blarg.
LordD99
Looks like Yankees and Red Sox at the top of the division, but still time for additional moves from all the players. There are no super teams in the AL.
Fever Pitch Guy
Lord – As always injuries will be a huge factor in the standings, but I totally agree there’s at least 4 teams in the NL that would be Top Dog in the AL.
The O’s offseason to me is the most shocking and disappointing. What is the point of tanking all those years to build a solid young core now in their prime, and then not supplement it with free agents? The money they have spent this offseason has been poorly spent with high risk contracts to O’Neill, Sugano and Morton. This is NOT what I expected with a wealthy new owner who seemed to be interested in winning.
BTW – I do think Cleveland could be better this season, as of now it seems like a Yankees/Guardians rematch in the ALCS.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
BAL is going to put a package together to get a B/#2 type starter.
They may wait till Memorial Day Trade deadline window.
Probably 3 or 4 players – A mix of MLB ready and some prospects. They’re just going to do it on their own timeline and when they think they get a reasonable deal.
The first 2 months of the season they can gauge how they are doing vs NYY and BOS – their 2 main rivals. TB and TOR are no slouches.
They need to upgrade their bullpen as Morton, Sugano sp? may regularly only last like 5 2/3 IP
marinersfan1977
“Memorial Day Trade deadline window”?
Tell me you don’t know baseball without actually saying it!
Atloriolesfan
The Orioles spent $50m on FAs, $70m if you count the second year of Eflin picked up at the deadline. Do you really think that Elias, who picked Gunnar and Westburg in the 2nd round and Ortiz and Mayo in the 4th round is a genius at scouting draft talent but an idiot in scouting FA talent and simply wasted $70m on FAs.
King Floch
Signing O’Neill was one of the best moves of the offseason for any team. The Orioles desperately needed a lefty mashing OF to pair with Cowser, Mullins, and Kjerstad so we went out and got the very best one on the market.
I honestly don’t get how anyone could think it wasn’t anything short of brilliant.
Fever Pitch Guy
King – O’Neill was a high risk signing. You’re banking on him returning to 2021 form, hopefully it works out for you.
Remember he wasn’t even offered a QO by a team that is now looking for a RH bat.
King Floch
We’re not banking on that though.
We’re banking on him mashing the crap out of lefties, which is an extremely safe bet based on his long track record of savagely pummeling lefties.
Fever Pitch Guy
King – So you’re saying $50M for a platoon player is a good contract? The vast majority of teams and analysts disagree with that notion.
I hope he can stay healthy, otherwise his lack of production against RHP (who BTW comprise 74% of all pitchers) could make it a horrible contract.
Best of luck with the high risk signing!
King Floch
O’Neill isn’t going to be a pure platoon player, he will start 100% of the time against lefties and probably 50-75% of the time against righties, with Kjerstad covering the balance, protecting O’Neill from the toughest righties and also keeping him fresh and healthy.
Considering that the Orioles desperately needed to improve the offense significanty against lefties and the most obvious path to doing so was through the newly-vacant RF, O’Neill was the clearest and best fit/solution available so we went out and used cold, hard cash to get him, and his particular profile also leaves the door open to get Kjerstad some extra ABs, which is a nice side benefit.
It’s literally one of the best moves of the entire offseason by ANY team, dude.
Thornton Mellon
Floch
IF O’Neill was healthy and played 140 games it could very well be the move of the offseason. That could be 40-45 HR and much higher production than Santander.
BUT career high in GP is 138. Has played in more than 100 games just 2x. Versus the guy he replaced who was good for 150+ GP annually.
Its all $’s and I wasn’t for giving Santander 4-5 years either. But isolating 2025 they rolled the dice.
My guess is, O’Neill misses some time, produces similarly to Santander, and warehouse spin is “see we saved $”.
King Floch
He’s almost certainly going to be splitting starts against righties to some significant degree with Kjerstad, so my expectation is around 120 starts for O’Neill, but the ones that matter most for judging the acquisition are the starts against lefties since that was where the Orioles offense *specifically* needed to improve this offseason.
Ragnarok
Oneill fits perfectly. We were so lefty heavy. He’s very likely an upgrade.
He’s fairly likely to opt out after one year and try to beat his total guarantee left after this year. Santander didn’t mash lefties. He truly doesn’t have a platoon split. But O’Neill could be an upgrade in that sense since we have plenty of options to hit lefty.
King Floch
Ragnarok gets it.
The O’s are great against righties, even after Santander’s departure, but really needed to imrpove against lefties, and very few individual players instantly improve a lineup against lefties more than Tyler O’Neill does year in and year out, and the Orioles also just happen to have a lefty hitting top prospect who also plays COF and needs some playing time to protect O’Neill from the tougher righties in Kjerstad. Plus O’Neill should be an upgrade defensively from Santander, so that helps him chip in some extra value on days when he doesn’t have the platoon advantage.
It really does fit like a glove. Just an absolutely stellar move by Mike Elias.
Fever Pitch Guy
King – 75% of 74% is a lot of PA’s against RHP.
Just to make you aware, over the past THREE YEARS O’Neill has a putrid .684 OPS against RHP which is 43rd-worst out of 220 MLB players (min 750 PA’s).
fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?lg=all&sea…
My work here is done. I respect your opinion about “best signing” even though facts and the baseball community strongly contradict you.
Oh and BTW – Goldschmidt has a .971 OPS against LHP over the past 3 seasons, he signed for just one year @ $12.5M.
JD Martinez has a .920 OPS against LHP over the past 3 seasons, he is still available and will likely sign for far less than O’Neill did. So there WERE better options for a better RHB at a cheaper price than O’Neill.
Ragnarok
Neither one of them can play LF or RF. They’re also far more likely to seriously decline at their age this season. I doubt O’Neill plays 75% of the time against rhp’s as well. More likely 50% unless he’s hitting them.
King Floch
I expect it to be closer to 50:50, but with O’Neill still getting the larger portion.
A 1B and full-time DH who are both wayyyy older aren’t exactly great comps here. They’re actually pretty terrible comps after factoring in roster fit.
Either way, saying “a bunch of other people don’t understand the signing either” isn’t a particularly great argument at the end of the day.
Fever Pitch Guy
Rag – O’Neill started only 90 games in the OF last year, the dude has really gone downhill on defense. So bad the Sox had Ref often playing OF instead of O’Neill.
King Floch
If O’Neill is healthy, and I assume he is since he passed his physical, he will be a defensive upgrade over Santander and probably a pretty significant one.
Fever Pitch Guy
King – It depends what the goal was, bring in a quality hitter against LHP who isn’t that expensive (did they even try to sign Teo?) or bring in an OF’er?
I’ve supplied a whole bunch of facts to support my argument. If O’Neill was anywhere near as valuable as you claim, the Red Sox would have at least offered him a QO. But I know what you’re gonna say, you’re smarter than Breslow and the rest of the Red Sox front office. Haha!
Ragnarok
The RS probably could’ve offered him a QO but it was a close call. The RS really didn’t need an OF’er this year though. That’s really the difference. He didn’t fit on that roster with the way it’s constructed. Roman Anthony will push for abs and the money was better spent for the RS.
Not the same for the O’s
Ragnarok
Also O’Neill DH’d 18 x and started 95 games in the OF.
I don’t think that says what you think. The O’s cycle guys through the DH slot also.
Fever Pitch Guy
King – I agree with the premise “if O’Neill is healthy he will be a defensive upgrade over Santander”.
You’re assuming he will be healthy for most or all of the season, just because he passed the physical? Really? SMH.
King Floch
O’Neill was the best fit out there for the Orioles *specifically* and I have explained why several times now. I don’t really care why another team like the Red Sox didn’t want him back, just as I’m sure you wouldn’t care too much why the Orioles let Santander go if the Red Sox were to sign him. We had 2 open roster spots to upgrade the lineup against lefties this offseason, a backup C and 1 OF spot, and we used the OF spot on the player that was available who should help the most in that specific area of need (the backup C spot as well, but that is a separate matter), thus it’s a great move for the Orioles.
And I wanted nothing to with Teo and his 2nd percentile defensive value, and am very glad we signed O’Neill instead, who I think can probably get back to providing average-ish defense in 2025 after leg injuries derailed him last year. Sharing playing time against righties with Kjerstad should help at least a bit in that regard.
Fever Pitch Guy
Rag – I actually agree with you the Red Sox shouldn’t need a replacement for O’Neill because Anthony will likely replace him.
But the Red Sox say differently, which is why they pursued both Santander and Teo. Most feel it’s because they plan to trade Abreu, as they want to replace a LHB with a RHB.
Fever Pitch Guy
Rag – You mixed up the stats. He played OF in 95 games, but started only 90 games.
Like I said to King, he will be a good platoon player against LHP but to expect him to play a significant number of games in the OF or against RHP is a mistake. The contract was a major overpay, I have quotes from credible media outlets stating league executives viewed him as a $12M a year player. He got $16.5M from the O’s, that’s approx a 35% overpay.
dm867
You forget that the free agents choose where they want to play–they don’t have to go to who offers them the most. True, we don’t know what Burnes was offered by BAL, but it was rumoured they offered more than Arizona did.
basemonkey 2
Those contracts aren’t high risk. Sugano, Sanchez, and Morton are all 1-year deals. And O’Neil’s has an opt-out after the first year. This time next year none of them could be guaranteed money.
Fever Pitch Guy
base – It’s still money that could have been better spent. $15M isn’t exactly chump change.
And the opt-out always favors THE PLAYER, not the team.
This is how it works: If O’Neill is injured most of the season or puts up awful numbers, you’re stuck with him for another 2 years. That makes his signing even riskier.
If he stays healthy and performs well, you’ve got to try and replace him.
Smart teams tack on what’s called a “Team Option”, that gives the team a choice as to whether or not they want to keep the player at an already agreed upon price.
Ragnarok
O’Neill doesn’t sign the deal with a team option. Unless the O’s pay him probably $25MM in year 1. Not a “smart team” move. It’s just a market with 2 participants.
King Floch
Better spent on what? O’Neill was literally the single best free agent position player available for what the Orioles *specifically* needed, which was the biggest possible individual upgrade to the lineup against LHPs that plays COF.
I don’t give a crap if some talking head thinks he was only worth $12 million and not $16 million. In fact, I see the “overpay” as a major positive since the old ownership would have just instructed Elias to go the cheap route and sign somebody who is much less of an upgrade like, I dunno, Manuel Margot, instead of just ponying up the cash to sign the clear cut BPA (who was O’Neill in this situation, who we actually signed).
danumd87 2
The orioles, on paper, are still well ahead of the Red Sox and – worst case scenario – slight dogs to the Yankees.
Fever Pitch Guy
Dan – Agreed, but they rank 6th in MLB and with some solid pitcher acquisitions could have improved their positioning.
Still some time left, hope they make some upgrades. I’d like to see them get back to the WS.
danumd87 2
There’s so much time left in the offseason. With the return of Felix and Wells, as well as Suarez sliding back to the bullpen, they’re going to have one of the top bullpens in the game behind their admittedly average rotation. A signing of Hoffman would cement them as having the best pen in the game and provide another potential setting guy along with Suarez and Wells. I think the Os are building for depth and statistic based matchups with the staff. That’s not as sexy as resigning burnes but may be as effective. Even as currently constructed the offense and pen are going to end a lot of games early. If we can trade for a Castillo or Lopez then the rotation would at least be above average along with a roster that is among the best in the sport in every other facet of the game.
fljay73
Offseason paper team winners always win the WS.
MacGromit
considering just last year, yes… that’s true lol
danumd87 2
I think that’s why he said “always”
Acoss1331
Kyle Gibson is still available, not sure if the Orioles would want him back, but he wouldn’t be an expensive one-year deal.
gorav114
Kremer is very reliable as a back of rotation guy. Hopefully Bradish and Wells will be back in 2nd half. Unless they get a real stud I’d rather them focus on the bullpen now. A guy like Scott would make an insane 7, 8, 9 with him, Cano, and Bautista.
danumd87 2
I’m hoping for Hoffman since he’d be a bit cheaper and there’s a chance he could be a swing guy if needed.
Ragnarok
Hoffman fails a starter just plug him in as the 8th inning guy. He’d be the best set up man in the pen.
danumd87 2
A pen of Felix, Hoffman, Cano, Suarez, Seranthony, Wells, Akin, Perez would easily be the best in the game (sorry Cleveland).
Ragnarok
Be up there.
Can’t unseat Cleveland on paper though. Clase and Smith at the backend is lethal. Let’s hope Felix is his old self real soon.
danumd87 2
Obviously. But all we can talk about right now is “On paper”. That’s why they have to play the games. That’s why the Yankees “on paper” look improved but may very be a relative non factor again like 2023. They added a couple highly volatile bats (the most up and down guy in the game in bellinger and a declining goldy) but lost Soto, the guy who transformed them from non contender to World Series overnight. With the injury rate to pitchers the fried and Williams adds could not amount to much (just look at what happened to the rays in 2023 and the Os last season). We do have to play the games to find out. But in this comment section we can look at the names and stars and draw reasonable conclusions from there for discussion purposes.
Arte Moreno
Every team is looking for pitching upgrades. This is hardly news, nor is it a baseball rumor. Glad this is not a pay service!
pohle
nice try, arte moreno wont pay for anything
TalkingBaseball
The trade isn’t bad, but the Mariners are focused on thirdbase help.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Why don’t they sign Bregman then
They arenot short on money
TalkingBaseball
I’d love that for a few reasons. 1. He’d be perfect. 2. Mariners fans would lose their crap having a trashros player on the team.
But this ownership isn’t spending that type of money. Even if they did, why would Bregman want to come to T-Moble Park where most players struggle?
The_Porcupine
Ownership already locked up rodriquez for a load of cash didnt they?
TalkingBaseball
That they did. But they’ve stated they have about 15MM available this year.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
They have money …at least think
TalkingBaseball
They say they don’t have more than 15MM. If they were to trade Castillo for this package, they’d have more money. They’d have to have a trade and sign deal with Bregman to make that trade to add money.
Ragnarok
Bregman’s last major contract is likely this one. He probably wouldn’t care about hitting venue if the M’s were his best offer financially
stymeedone
@lefy oriole
Yes, they are right up against their budget, and the only reason Castillo is available is they want to move his salary. They want cheap players back. They don’t have room in the budget currently to fill their holes, which is why they haven’t made any moves. They are waiting out the market, and will pick from the remains.
Atloriolesfan
Ramon Urias has a Gold Glove a 3B and a career OPS+ identical to Willy Adames. In what world is he not a huge upgrade at 2 positions for SEA.
King Floch
Ramon is one of the most consistently underrated players in baseball, even by many Orioles fans.
Wrian Washman
How about a rare inter divisional trade. Stroman and his 18M for a bag of baseballs?
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Teams aren’t looking to help bailout NYY from a unproductive contracts, like Stro, DJL also maybe in the second half of the season
Wrian Washman
Okay you drive a hard bargain. Stroman for a bag of Lays potato chips and call it even.
King Floch
I’m fine with the Orioles rotation as currently constructed, but the idea of trading Kremer as part of a package for a better pitcher like Lopez or Castillo is kind of interesting and it would allow the other team to immediately backfill the traded SP’s spot in their rotation with a competent replacement.
Thornton Mellon
Floch
Quantity is sufficient. Should be able to avoid “TBD”.
Quality is not. Most are 4/5’s which will too frequently lead to games where offense will struggle to make up for the starters giving up 3-4+ by the 5th.
They are banking on a full year of top notch performance from Gray Rod which has not happened. Get a top line guy, even an Eflin level, this rotation looks significantly better.
King Floch
It’s a perfectly solid 1-5 with good depth behind it to at least get us to the trade deadline in playoff position, at which point the 2025 draft, in which the Orioles will essentially have 3 first round picks thanks to Burnes and Santander, will be complete, which could make some of our current Beavers/Honeycutt/Bradfield tier guys trade bait if we still need to upgrade for the playoffs.
We’re in good shape right now, man. Another higher end SP before opening day would be nice, but there’s still time before October 2025 if we don’t and the current group of starters is among the best and deepest I have ever seen as an Orioles fan.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Best free agent pitchers available? Most likely to contribute and low AAV? What do you guys think?
The_Porcupine
I wonder if a deal centered on kremer and either fabian or beaver could land castillo or lopez? Id be comfortable adding in any of mountcastle, urias, soto, perez into it as well
danumd87 2
Mountcastle, Kremer shed Fabian would be more than enough for Castillo. I doubt Fabian would be necessary but I’m sure the Ms will try and I doubt the orioles would let that stop them from making a deal
DonOsbourne
I’m surprised the O’s aren’t touting Trevor Rogers as a bigger part of their plan. I know he didn’t pitch well last year, but most teams would stand by him just to avoid admitting they got taken in a trade.
Samuel
DonOsbourne;
Hello.
Like most MLB FO’s, the O’s don’t “tout” (not a slam on you….more on people that write these ridiculous suppositions and those that take them seriously in the comments).
The O’s are no different than any MLB team. It’s been over a decade since a 5-man rotation started 162 games for any team. Injuries to pitchers are no longer an epidemic, it’s the new normal. Years ago it was said that a team had to go into the season with 7 starters – with 2 either in the minors or bullpens. Today teams use more than that, including “Openers”.
No doubt that unless he completely falls off a cliff at some point, Mr. Rodgers will start some games for the O’s this year. Starting pitching is a numbers game for the O’s and every other MLB team. Depth charts are not to be taken seriously. The game has changed.
Atloriolesfan
Purely a product of the fact that Suarez was a quality starter and reliever in 2024, Povich had a great MLB finish and McDermott lead AAA in Ks and had a solid ERA. What are now their 6/7/8 starters are better bets than Rogers. He’ll start at Norfolk and get a shot if they need him.
DanielDannyDano
Felix Bautista could be the key to the O’s season. If he’s healthy and finds his ’22-’23 dominance, added with Cano and Dominguez, Akin and Soto, this might end up as the best bullpen in the division. If the starting rotation can eat some innings and keep the game close through 5, the O’s should be in good shape.
NYCityRiddler
The last thing the O’s are is in good shape, Charlie Morton. Ahahahaha!
VermonsterSD
Cease for Kjersted and Bradfield……
King Floch
Hell no.
Samuel
LOL
The small market O’s aren’t trading 2 youngsters with 6 years of control for one year of anyone.
El Niño
Samuel they literally just did that last off season.
The_Porcupine
Norby and stowers were not top prospects.
Ragnarok
Ortiz and Hall were.
VermonsterSD
They will of they want any sort of a chance this year. Can’t clutch your pearls over every single prospect out there. The majority of them don’t pan out, even the vaunted Orioles farm system…..lol. Strike while the iron is hot.
danumd87 2
Cease isn’t worth anywhere near that though. Kjerstad alone would be a massive overpay. That’s just not happening. There are so many arms being floated out there that if the orioles decided they wanted to point to the prospect capital they could have a similar pitcher with much more control for much less. If they want to give up a package like that they’ll be calling the mariners.
all in the suit that you wear
Instead of trading two young players, the O’s could sign Pivetta and only lose their third highest pick which is less of a hit to the farm system.
Atloriolesfan
Their third highest pick is before the Dodgers, Yankees and Phillies first pick.
all in the suit that you wear
That draft pick may still be less valuable that what you would need to trade for a good starting pitcher.
Ragnarok
Elias loves drafting though. He wants to have the maximum amount of money to get his targets. Think he’d rather trade his known quantity in the system afterwards.
I don’t think the O’s need a TOR starter until July. I’m fine with a wait and see what you have here:
danumd87 2
This is how he sustained success in Houston. These picks are really important. 3 top 32 picks is how they’re going to vault from a now relatively average farm to a top 5 farm overnight.
octavian8
Is there any fit for a Mountcastle trade to Cincinnati? Petty, Fraley, Benson or Stewart combo? Before you Oriole fans start in the answer is no to Lodolo or Abbot. Mount is no Soto
King Floch
We don’t really need any OFs and would probably only trade Mountcastle if it was bringing back a pitcher, whether that’s a starter or bullpen guy.
Dboi
Keller for Kjerstad and a lotto ticket
King Floch
No thanks, we already have a Keller in Kremer.
danumd87 2
Maybe Kjerstad for Keller+ but certainly not the other way around
King Floch
I wouldn’t trade Kjerstad for Keller at all.
It would be like trading him for a much more expensive Kremer.
danumd87 2
I don’t disagree. Just pointing out the absurdity of the proposal
tobuild
Crazy to me that they made a big trade for Rogers and have pretty much given up on him
King Floch
I don’t think we’ve given up on him, I just think he’s going to have to earn his way back into the rotation mix.
yeasties
It’s weird. Aside from Burnes, it seems like every pitcher the O’s have signed or traded for in recent years have been mediocre or terrible. It doesn’t speak well to their pro scouting skillz.
King Floch
Eflin? Cano? Suarez?
jtboy123s
Bradish? Coulombe? And manufacturing RP out of thin air (waivers, rule 5)? Bro you’re uninformed.
danumd87 2
Might be the dumbest comment I’ve seen on the internet today. Good job. The orioles have an outstanding recent track record with pitcher development/acquisition. I’d put them up against 80% of the league over the last 3-4 years with the upmost confidence. Truly an absolutely nonsensical comment @yeasties…
danumd87 2
Seriously. That’s just an insane comment. The orioles track record in the last 3-4 years is among the best in the sport.
danumd87 2
“Big trade”? Stowers is a AAAA player with almost no trade value who the orioles were fortunate to trade when they did when his value was at its peak. Norby was a decent trade piece…top 150 prospect type…but he wasn’t a big loss. It was a small trade with a lot of hype bc of the type of deadline we witnessed
The_Porcupine
I agree, seattle should ask for the biggest prospects and i would hope the orioles say no. Im ok not getting a pitcher if it means keeping westburg, mayo and holiday. But seattle is in a bind which may force them to lower their ask.
Samuel
The_Porcupine;
The O’s aren’t trading any of their top-tier prospects. Period.
They’ve been slowly getting rid of their (productive) veterans……which presents a problem for 2025 and possibly 2026 as the youngsters have to adjust to play at the ML level….and some will wash out.
Thornton Mellon
Samuel
I think another is gone after this year in Mullins. Bradfield will be given every opportunity to open 2026 as starting CF, barring a large step back in 2025. He will probably start year in AA and see AAA by Memorial Day if at all productive.
I have enjoyed Mullins but he never came anywhere close to 2021 again. Not an everyday guy with his splits and slump tendencies but someone will offer what the Orioles will refuse to pay. They could do Cowser in CF if any time gap to fill, with ONeill, OHearn, Kjerstad rotating the corners.
danumd87 2
2025 looks like a very strong year on the horizon. With another year of experience and the bats being supplemented with full seasons of Holliday, Kjerstad and mayo the lineup should be top 3 in the game with relative ease. The staff could use an acquisition but that may come from within with Bradish later in the season. The bullpen projects as one of the absolute best in the sport too with Felix back, Suarez moving back to the pen, and wells likely back in the summer at the latest. Casuals are too focused on burnes – who will of course be terribly missed – when they’ve added around the edges with two veteran back end sps, added a much needed rh bat, and have the aforesaid internal improvements. Given the fact they had 91 wins last season as one of the two most injured teams in baseball I think 95 wins with average health is a relatively modest prediction…and that’s saying something bc 95 wins is never a modest outcome. But they’re a top 5 team in the game on paper currently with at much upside as any team (not named the dodgers, screw those guys, they’re going to be winning it all for a while)
andym-2
If the Os don’t bring in a top of the rotation veteran, they simply aren’t a serious contender next year.
King Floch
The Orioles currently have one of the best young position player groups in all of baseball, plus a very solid rotation and an extremely high upside bullpen.
Of course they are a serious contender.
jdgoat
agreed. They’re going to fall the same way Duquette did about a decade ago. Build a good foundation, and then just refuse to do anything to build upon it. Elias has spent the past 2.5 years wasting potential teams that could have been contenders.
Ragnarok
Bad opinion.
danumd87 2
The orioles are probably the best team in the AL right now as currently constructed. Your comment is simply not a serious comment.
whyhayzee
Everybody’s talking bout
The six man rotation
It’s the new sensation
That’s gripping the nation
First the Red Sawx
Now the Orioles
Everybody talks
Postseason goals
Everybody’s posting
Everybody’s boasting
Everybody’s roasting
Everybody’s toasting
The six man rotation!
bwmiller79
The Orioles pitching staff on paper isn’t that strong, and they don’t seem to have any good options in the minors.
Dean Kremer’s numbers stink, and he had a very advantageous BABIP in ’24. Both Suarez and Akin look like better options for the 5.
They either trade the prospects for a controllable SP, and move Kremer to the bullpen, or DFA him all together.
Or, keep the prospects and make a deal at the deadline once they see what they have working for them in June.
The bullpen is weak too. They will likely need to add multiple pieces to both the rotation and the bullpen. Probably best to take the wait and see approach.
The O’s are still a real young team, not necessarily a need to put the pedal down until the prospects in the field develop.
If I’m the O’s and can’t get a MLB ready starter with multiple years of team control for my prospects, I’d look to sign a Cal Quantrill or a Martin Perez, and go with the roster as it sits.
I’d be out on Castillo all together.
Thornton Mellon
I’ve always looked at Kremer as “good Kremer” and “bad Kremer”. He’s had a few seasons now and is still like this. The latter was around much more in 2024. The former is good enough he could help attract a more connsistent top half guy in a trade package.
I will give Kremer props for coming back to pitch the next start after taking a line drive off the wrist 8/31. I was at that game in CO and you could hear the smack all the way in the RF corner. He had quite a mouse on there too.
danumd87 2
You have no idea what you’re talking about. With Felix (and likely wells) back the orioles have one of the best bullpens in the game. Felix, Cano, Seranthony, Suarez, Wells, Akin, Perez…that might not be the best bullpen in the game but you’re going to be hard pressed to name 3 better on paper. Calling that a weakness is like announcing to the world that you discovered both baseball and the internet yesterday.
bwmiller79
Bautista is coming back from injury, Cano is wild, Akin is a flyball pitcher and the long ball doesn’t play well in the bullpen.
Suarez is serviceable but he isn’t a lock down reliever.
The Rays bullpen will be one of the best in the league, the Guardians are far better, the Dodgers. There are many teams with better bullpen than the Orioles. It is a weak bullpen. Weaker than their rotation because Eflin and Rodriguez are legitimate starters. And Morton and Sugano could be a real good fit. Kremer is the 5 and is a weak 5.
Thornton Mellon
danu-
I did not say the bullpen was a weakness. I said that if they had a need, they would find the arm.
Wells isn’t back for a while. if Felix is back to Felix, the closer spot is good, and I would say from who’s there now “top third bullpen in the game” is a safe bet at minimum.
The rotation is not strong. You can’t look at Eflin’s 2024 stretch run with it being the best of his career and say that will hold. He’s an above average starter with body of work, a 2-3. Technically GRod was very average overall last year and coming off an injury. Starting him at 3 and acknowledging potential is fair.
Morton and Sugano being good fits at the back half and having back end depth is not the same as having a strong rotation. It will be helpful to avoid scrambling and bullpen games and other ad-hoc things teams tend to get caught in and those are games teams tend to lose.
Being hard pressed to name a better bullpen in the league?
BWmiller took care of that, I was going to say Guardians and Dodgers are stronger. I’d say Rays, Braves also and slot the Orioles 5th at the moment….probably need to talk about Brewers and Padres in the mix with the Orioles too.
danumd87 2
I know. I didn’t respond to your comment.
danumd87 2
The guardians are top until proven otherwise, sure. The padres are a legitimate suggestion as well. But the Braves have subtracted from their pen so I’d have to disagree there. And the rays and dodgers don’t seem particularly close at all so I’d be interested in your rationale there. Admittedly, my comments presuppose Bautista returns to form and that’s not a given. But if we grant that for the sake of discussion I don’t see a legitimate case for more than two pens at the orioles level.
Old York
O’s back to their tradition of dumpster diving. Look to be a lock for 3rd place this year.
King Floch
lol
lmao
Old York
@King Floch
I’m glad I made you laugh. Have a great Sunday!
See you at work on Monday…
Thornton Mellon
York-today I have them in 3rd today but I guess wrong on the sox. NYY clearly front runners
Ragnarok
Thornton you’re always doom and gloom though. Projections system have us slotted in right behind the Yanks and it won’t surprise me if we edge them out.
ray1
Looks like teams are waiting on Sasaki’s decision.
tuck 2
I can’t argue that the team could upgrade Kremer, but I think he never gets the credit he’s due. He’s been better than a number 5 – more like a 3 when he’s healthy and let’s not forget that he was really good down the stretch last year. If they trade him it should not be for a one year wonder.
I like trading him and Mounty so Mayo can play 1st. BUT maybe we want to see how Ryan adjusts to the shorter left field wall because there’s no doubt the big wall changed his whole approach.
Would also love to see them give Means a minor league deal. He will come back from TJ.
Finally no one seems to talk enough about 1. How good Grayson can become and 2. Prior to TJ Bradish was as good as anyone.
Thornton Mellon
Tuck
Re: Grayrod-we saw nearly half a season of “hmm this guy could be an ace” in late 2023.
In 2024, too many clunkers thrown in. He had a couple pretty dominant-looking starts otherwise usually effective but not dominant. Then-hurt.
He’s a 3 today, and I am factoring injury and lack of track record. The ceiling is higher. I hope we see at least 2/3 over 30+ starts in 2025…less clunkers, more late 2023’s.
Ragnarok
Most 24 year old starters breaking into the majors don’t look like Paul Skenes. It took Corbin burnes a couple years himself.
G-Rod is extremely promising and I expect him to look like a #2 this year.
shortstop09
Seattle would take Mountcastle,Urias, and Kraemer in a heartbeat. It’s not on the table though.
RickEO
Id sign Corbin Burnes. Best fit by far
YankeesBleacherCreature
Or Max Fried.
dodgerz88
It’s a bird, It’s a plane! It’s Trevor Bauer on a 2 year 30 mil deal. Makes no sense this dude is still being blackballed when he is clearly an ace of most staffs in MLB. Sign him.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
But IF he doesn’t throw the Roger Beshens football slider his stuff is antiquated.;)
Thornton Mellon
Dodgerz
Bauer is most obviously being blackballed. If he was available for cheap he would be an Oriole, guaranteed
MacGromit
@dodgerz88
oh right… Bauer breaks the free market system. No team wants to improve and hire him to pitch solely because it is evil collusion, not a PR headache they’d prefer not to have on their hands.
Please post this somewhere else. No way Baltimore muddies up their clubhouse with the likes of Bauer.
dodgerz88
What PR? You mean the current PR razin your team for signing a 60 year old?
MacGromit
@dodgerz
what are you getting paid for trying to spin some pity for Bauer? his storyline is over. move on.
Thornton Mellon
There is no point in trading one of the several 4/5 rotation slot candidates like Kremer unless it results in at least a 2/3 guy coming back. Including Mountcastle would be ok here and also seems to check a box for Seattle.
Not worried about bullpen. The Orioles will find ways to fill that out so that it is at least decent.
But those saying they are “spending” forgot who they lost. O’Neill is cheaper than Santander, if not injured he can produce same…but odds are he misses significant chunk. Sanchez replaces McCann. Don’t buy the bill of goods that Morton plus Sugano replaces an ace like Burnes that was lost. As currently constructed, they’ve lost ground and the solution is obvious and attainable: get front line starters.
The biggest positives this year will be to see what growth and progression young core shows as hitters. Its also nice to avoid “TBD” for starters with the options they have, but quantity isn’t always quality.
Still seeing 3rd and a just above .500 record and yes I have brought that projection down a couple wins since Thanksgiving.
rickyism
They have a very volatile/unknown roster, but the around .500 is absolutely the floor, with a ceiling being that of 2023. They also improved a bit since thanksgiving, they were never going to get burnes so I wouldn’t have included that pre thanksgiving, so I don’t know how you’d subtract wins since then unless you had him wrote in.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
I think BAL has a good strategy they have created starting pitching depth at a reasonable price and short term length.
They haven’t traded any of their top prospects and can keep ongoing conversations with other GMs until certain trade asks come down.
Eventually they will be sort of forced to trade a top prospect or two as roster spots/minor league options run out but that is years away
Not unlike what the NYM aka the STEMs are doing.
One or two RPs would be a big help.
Thornton Mellon
Ok guys, a hypothetical…
Last year Orioles started 57-33 and finished 34-38.
What if this year they start 34-38? Plausible, given a rotation of mostly 4’s and 5’s, and the potential for injuries, oddities of baseball, etc.
Do they stay the course and make a playoff push because that 57-33 finish is certainly within their talents (especially according to many of you)?
Or…
Trade those on expiring contracts and maybe O’Neill given the opt-out, and be “next year is our year” again?
Ragnarok
Thornton//- Elias has built pitching depth so this team doesn’t have to go through povich learning how to pitch in the bigs and Cole Irvin like last year.
If a Dylan Cease is brought in—I’m pretty sure you’ll be over the moon happy with this offseason. (Well perhaps not bc I believe the default state is pessimism) Burnes wasn’t on the squad last year atp.
Thornton Mellon
Cease would accomplish getting a top half type guy in there who I would feel comfortable with putting up 30+ above average starts. He’s been my least preferable option because we’ll be right back here a year older having the same discussions (just that year of control).
I would add back several wins to my projections as he’d make the entire rotation better from top to bottom, similarly to how I treated the Burnes signing last winter.
My guess any SDP decision w/ Cease is waiting on Sasaki.
Thornton Mellon
PS
“Over the moon” = 2 guys at Eflin or better level with multiple years of control (or 1 + Eflin being extended), plus extensions on some of the young core. That tells me they are serious about going for it the next few years not with being “hopefully good enough”
Originally I thought about putting someone better than O’Neill here as well…but if he is healthy and does what he’s supposed to then its a fine move, just wish for more stability.
I guess we’ll see. About 1.5 months of offseason left.
DroppedThirdStrike
If they’re within 5 games at the All Star break then they’re in great position to make a deadline adjustment. But it’s almost just as likely that they’re 5 games ahead and only need to address what the first 90 or so games reveal as a weakness.
7 months, dude. Relax
Bobby smac9
what team cleared the most profit last year?
carausda
lol, Bal looking to add pitching only if the player doesn’t cost money, or prospects