The Yokohama DeNA BayStars of Nippon Professonal Baseball have agreed to a deal with right-hander Trevor Bauer, according to multiple reports out of Japan (including from Nikkan Sports). The BayStars are expected to soon officially announce the signing.
It will mark Bauer’s second season in NPB and second with the BayStars, after posting a 2.76 ERA over 130 2/3 innings with Yokohama in 2023. In between his two stints in Japan, Bauer pitched with Diablos Rojos del Mexico in 2024, delivering a 2.48 ERA over 83 1/3 frames. He signed with the Mexican League club after first exploring the possibility of a return to the majors, as his representatives spoke with some unnamed MLB teams in November 2023.
Bauer pitched in parts of 10 Major League seasons from 2012-21 with the Diamondbacks, Cleveland, Reds, and Dodgers, averaging 181 innings per season from 2014-19. In the pandemic-shortened 2020 season, Bauer won the NL Cy Young Award after posting a 1.73 ERA over 73 innings with Cincinnati. Bauer then signed a three-year, $102MM free agent contract with the Dodgers during the 2020-21 offseason, but this tenure in Los Angeles ended after three months and 107 2/3 innings when he was placed on administrative leave pending a league investigation.
That summer, a woman accused Bauer of sexual assault and filed a restraining order against him in California. Two other women in Ohio later came forward with similar accusations. In August 2021, a California judge denied the restraining order request, and the Los Angeles district attorney’s office later declined to pursue criminal charges. As per a statement from the DA’s office, “after a thorough review of the available evidence, including the civil restraining order proceedings, witness statements and the physical evidence, the People are unable to prove the relevant charges beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Because the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy doesn’t require criminal charges for the league to take action, Bauer was issued a 324-game suspension (the equivalent of two full seasons) in April 2022. This record-long suspension was later reduced to 192 games in December 2022 after Bauer appealed the ruling, and the Dodgers released him the next month and ate the $22.5MM remaining on his contract. Also in 2023, Bauer and his first accuser settled their mutual lawsuits out of court, and another woman reportedly filed a civil action against Bauer accusing him of a sexual assault that took place in Arizona in 2020.
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MLB gets Sasaki. NPB gets Bauer. I would say the U.S. won.
I’ll bet Sasaki doesn’t touch Bauers ceiling.
Seriously his situation is not different from hundreds of other ball players- the Bull Durham behavior isn’t a long stretch so insult the industry at large if you want don’t troll the man.
stl,
You think there are “hundreds of other ball players” like Bauer? His actions have been far beyond “Bull Durham behavior.” He’s the only troll in this situation.
Hundreds of similar ballplayers except only one who was punished by an independent arbitrator with the longest suspension in the history of joint domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse policy
Pretty sure Bauer may never return to MLB.
His skills are only going to decline. If no one has rolled the dice yet I doubt they ever will.
He’d obviously be an upgrade for nearly any rotation outside of LAD.
Him claiming he learned the Roger Beshens Football Slider all by himself is the real reason his life has fallen apart. If only he would come clean I’m sure the league would welcome him back. Women would also stop coming out of the woodwork claiming assault. His deceptive ways have really hurt him. Roger Beshens does not play around.
Will be 34 and hasn’t faced MLB caliber hitters in what will be at least 4 years. Odds are very good Bauer never gets on an MLB mound again
@Rsox
How many years did any of the Japanese imports play in the mlb before coming over? As long as he has the stuff, he’ll be fine. It’s kind of hard to judge, but setting as how the courts declined to press charges and choose to refund a seemingly benign restraining order, I think Bauer deserves a 2nd chance. I have a buddy who was accused of take by his them GF. The dude couldn’t come up with the money to post bail, and I was really young at the time and couldn’t help. He was in county for 2 months before his mom was able to get him out. He somehow met up with his now ex and wore a take recorder. She apologized for lying to the cops because she was angry at him for some stupid reason. Thank God he was able to bring it to the police and they dropped all charges. I know that playing in the mlb is a privilege, not a right, but it just feels wrong to ban him for something that appears to have been false.
It wasn’t false. He settled with the woman out of court … I e. He paid her off.
Knicks, He did all those things. Court couldn’t find any evidence it wasn’t consensual. It was still vile AF, and he’s even admitted he won’t stop. No one is signing him and no one is going to bat for someone of his character.
The moral hill to die on that is signing Trevor Bauer is too steep for any MLB GM/owner to climb. He’ll finish his career internationally as long as team’s will sign him. Hopefully for his sake he’s smart enough not to repeat the same mistakes on foreign soil…
MLB found Bauer guilty of breaking the domestic violence policy. Then when he appealed an independent arbitrator, a former judge, found him guilty as well.
MLB doesn’t need a conviction in a court to suspend someone and teams do not have to allow him to play on their teams if they feel he would not be worth the risk.
Considering Bauer has straight up said he will continue to violate that rule because he feels its his private life, he will never get another chance. He needs to apologize and promise never to do it again before anyone will even consider it and even then it’s not a good chance he gets signed. Too much baggage.
Still hits 98 and has 5 pitches he throws for strikes. He can get mlb hitters out.
As do many court cases watch the evidence against her first
kid – Please stop with the false statements.
He sued her first.
Then she countersued him.
They mutually settled each lawsuit with both stating neither had paid anything to the other.
Here’s one of many sources:
latimes.com/sports/story/2024-10-14/trevor-bauer-l…
Sal – I always prefer to focus on the big picture.
The big picture is Bauer was considered to be a major jerk long before any DV accusations surfaced.
As a result MLB blackballed him, plain and simple …. just like they did to Canseco and others in the past.
Whether he deserved to be blackballed, everyone has their own opinion. But MLB does have the right to do so.
This happens ALL THE TIME in the corporate world. You could be the best in the world at your job, but if you piss off the wrong people (ie: management, owner, etc) then you are gone and you are never coming back.
It’s called “At Will Employment” …. you can get fired any time for any reason, or even for no reason, as long as it’s not due to discrimination based on gender, race, religion etc.
There are no labor law protections for jerks.
He cut his finger playing with his toy drones and couldn’t pitch in crucial playoff games for the (then) Indians, costing his team possibly a championship. Bauer was a known a-hole before his other garbage came to light.
Fever, absolutely he had already amassed a litany of reasons why MLB wouldn’t want him in the league, but none of them were viable reasonsto actuallydo so. Bauer made his own bed with these acts regardless of how the legal process went. He did them, he did not shy away from that. Those are actionable offenses per MLB rules, and the fact that there were multiple accusers was the nail in the coffin. He’s more than a jerk, as I said hes a vile POS. Period.
Sal – I didn’t even mention what he did or the suspension that came with it.
The topic is now that he’s served his suspension and MLB has stated he’s free to sign with any MLB team, should he be playing in the majors again?
And my point is if MLB wants to blackball him, they have that right.
But even if there was no mandated blackballing, who in their right mind would sign him? I said this somewhere below, but teams are companies and even beyond what is completely obvious, he wouldn’t survive an official background check.
So IMO he absolutely should not.
Sal – I disagree on the background check. Those search for only criminal backgrounds.
He didn’t get convicted of anything, in fact he was never even charged with a crime. Yes he violated MLB’s policy, but background checks don’t turn up violations of prior employer policies. In fact for legal reasons most former employers don’t reveal the reason for the former employee’s departure.
In the corporate world he’d have no problem getting another similar job. She, on the other hand, was charged with a felony.
A background check these days looks at much more than criminality. A heck of a lot of companies looks at your socials when hiring. So even if we knew nothing of Bauer, a lot of red flags would turn up. There’s too many reasons not to hire Bauer.
Sal – That’s different, I don’t use social media so I’d be safe ;O)
lol Bauer was not a “known a-hole”, that was unfairly put upon him by the Diamondbacks coaching staff and Montero (who was actually a jerk and pitchers hated him) because Bauer had his own pitching coaches and training and warm up regiment.
Bauer didn’t have any issues with the Indians and many of their pitchers credited him with helping them out. His warm up routine is also pretty standard now across mlb.
And yet no one wants the headache of signing him, having him on the roster.
@ kidbryant. He may have been guilty of the things he was accused of but settling that suit out of court doesn’t prove anything other than it may have been cheaper to pay a settlement than the cost if he loses. Remember, this is civil – not criminal – and the burden of proof is lower. I’m guessing her attorney was paid with a percentage of settlement and his attention was by the hour. It’s incredibly expensive to be in court no matter whether guilty or innicent.
@jolf He didn’t pay any of his accusers one red cent
Just to clarify, it’s not that the court couldn’t find ANY evidence against Bauer, it’s that they prosecutor decided they didn’t have ENOUGH admissible evidence to feel confident that they could prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt against a high-profile, well-resourced defendant. Those are not remotely the same things, obviously. And let’s not forget that MLB did its own investigation, which did not have to meet a “reasonable doubt” standard, nor concern itself with admissibility of evidence in court, and concluded that the evidence merited a suspension that remains the longest non-lifetime suspension in league history, even after it was reduced by an independent arbitrator. All of this bears repeating, because you still see people disingenuously conflating the lack of a prosecutor’s desired smoking gun with actual exoneration, and falsely claiming that Bauer was “proven innocent.”
@Idli Amin No one is proven innocent in US criminal court. Even with the most obvious false accusation in history it’s either prove guilty or fail to prove guilty. But you clearly think Bauer was in fact guilty so why don’t you just come out and say it?
I mean his legal team, while under oath, did not dispute the accuser’s account of Bauer punching and sodomizing her while she was unconscious. This was therefore entered into evidence and is considered fact.
Exactly. It’s pretty clear that his fanboys like him BECAUSE of his trolling behavior, particularly toward women (social media bullying, etc.). If that stuff weren’t a part of his reputation, and he were a garden-variety malcontent who’d gotten suspended for gambling or PEDs or something, I don’t think he’d have many defenders.
He’d be in prison if that were the case.
@kidbryant He didn’t pay anyone off. This is already known.
@ Idi. I’m probably convincing anyone reading this that I’m trying to defend Bauer or say he’s innocent. I’m not. To repeat a previous comment, I have no idea of his guilt. But neither do any of the the commenters here who claim he’s guilty. He was never prosecuted. You can say that the prosecutor said they didn’t have enough evidence to convict, but that doesn’t mean we can just use our imagination to fill in the lack of evidence. As far as actual exoneration, there is no such legal result. Even if Bauer had been tried and found not guilty, it wouldn’t be actual exoneration. It would be Not Guilty and that’s not the same as innocent. You’re right about MLB. They don’t have a reasonable doubt requirement. MLB’s requirements are political and financial. I’m guessing marketing was more important to mlb.
I apologize for the lengthy response. I understand your lack of patience with those who try to build an argument of innocence when there’s no crystal clear end result of guilty. I feel the same about those who want to build an argument of guilty and end his career. I guess we’ll never know the actual circumstances. For me, Bauer was an idiot if he did what he was accused of and a different kind of idiot if he just put himself in the position of victim.
Literally is the case and no, no he would not. Go read the judge’s ruling yourself. It’s a fact. You are arguing against facts.
No, we literally do no that he violated MLB’s sexual assault policy. This is why he was not and will not be signed again: he claims he didnt do it yet when his legal team, under oath, was presented with the accuser’s account, they refused to deny any part of it.
Rsox – I’d be curious to hear how he’s viewed in Japan. How much does the press and population there know about him? Will he get additional attention because he’s an American star? The Japanese press treats baseball players like major celebrities, which would make it more difficult for him to get away with stuff.
@jolf But someone who has enough evidence that the DA is confident in filing charges but ends up being acquitted is more likely to be factually guilty than someone who the DA doesn’t even want to waste time and resources on a trial.
@Eighty Raw Yes it is the case. If he admitted to doing something to her that the law doesn’t recognize her ability to consent to he would go under the jail.
Yes, I’m aware that “proven innocent” isn’t a thing in the American criminal justice system, which is why I put it in quotes and called it out as a false claim of many Bauer apologists. As for what I “clearly think,” please tell me what else you’ve read from my mind, how you’ve read it, and why you care.
I don’t know whether Bauer was technically guilty of a crime in that particular case. I do know that four women have made similar accusations against him. I don’t think this is merely a matter of someone who likes to play rough getting railroaded; I’m fairly confident that most people who consensually play rough don’t end up in legal hot water. I think he’s into blurred lines, as it were—brushing up against the line without crossing it, because he doesn’t want to go to jail. I suspect he likes to see what he can get away with. And I suspect that many of his fanboys love him for it; some may even get a vicarious thrill out of his exploits.
But none of what I think matters. The LA County DA said they reviewed the available evidence and felt they couldn’t prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. MLB reviewed the evidence and decided to hand him the longest non-lifetime suspension in league history. And he hasn’t made a good faith effort to apologize and take responsibility for his behavior. He issued that ridiculous statement a while back saying that he’d made mistakes, without actually saying what those mistakes were, then said he’d made the media mad, that he was bullied as a kid, etc., as if those are the reasons he’s not playing for an MLB team. At this point, nobody wants to deal with the headache.
Every single person who has ever said “He wasn’t proven innocent the DA just declined to file charges” believes he was in fact guilty.
@Fever
Living in Japan for 8 years now and both of his stints have not been newsworthy. Probably only the DeNa sphere do people talk about it. Unfortunately in Japan, if it’s not any business of the people, they tend to not care. Ohtani and Yamamoto news and Darvish news will overpower any news about Bauer’s success. In the end, while Japan is a fervent baseball nation, many people really don’t pay attention to it outside of NPB fan circles. I’ve tried to talk about baseball with many people but they don’t really know much or don’t watch baseball.
To recap, whatever Bauer did or has done, will likely never be newsworthy here. If another accusation came out or if he pitches extremely well, it will only be a 10 second clip and explanation and nothing more. I like living here but it is hard to argue against Japan having a slight misogynistic society (traditionally speaking).
There is no evidence against her that was presented to a court.
@outinleftfield Except the court she was convicted of DUI in lmfao
@lfgsd
Charges get filed and dropped all the time, sometimes when charges are filed investigations are still ongoing then when the investigation concludes the evidence isn’t great so they drop them. In Trevor’s case there wasn’t enough strong evidence to build a solid case. In a jury trial anything can happen I’ve seen trials that didn’t think the defendant had a chance and the da fumbled so bad that the defendant won.
By no means am I sticking up for Trevor innocent or not he should of know he is a target and should of never put himself in that position to begin with.
He didn’t pay her. Look up the facts before you look like an idiot.
Age 34 currently. Guys his age without his baggage have trouble getting contracts. Never say never but seems unlikely any team will want to take the PR hit to sign him.
I remember drafting him in fantasy when he was in A ball. You ever look back and just think “man I’m old”
Pretty sure?
Omg…wait, wait…are Comments open because of the new Chief Executive?! Tim??
O’s,
No.
O’s – 14 months ago there was a Bauer article here with over 600 comments.
Please stop falsely accusing Tim.
FPG — Good on ya’. Thanks.
Surprised they allowed them to be open at all.
Inb4 lock! Lock her up that is!
Comment section will be fun on this one
“So, not coming to Toronto then..?”
178iq,
Not even close. He’s been above average in two foreign leagues the last couple of years, nothing especially interesting, and that’s before considering his personality issues.
Lol, this is factually not true and seen in the article. He’s been elite and is strictly not being given a look because of baggae.
GBS, he was below average in the NPB. Ranked 90th in a league with just 12 teams.
He had a 4.51 ERA in MLB when not admittedly cheating. He had a 2.76 ERA in Japan which ranked 90th in a 12-team league.
None of that is elite. It’s not even average.
He’s 34 and hasn’t pitched in MLB for 4 seasons.
3 seasons, not that it matters much.
Fair enough. 3 seasons.
Someone left the comments on…yikes
Trying to sneak this in while Chiefs-Bills is going on
I hate that the chiefs one at this point they are exactly like the patriots with GOAT QB and TE and head coach
I’m shocked comments are still open since at least 1/3rd of this site wants Bauer back on their team which is scary
@STNMF It’s scary to me that an accusation is enough for you to want to have the dude banished for life from MLB.
He violated the MLB rules concerning sexual assault. This isnt up for debate. It’s not “an accusation”: it is the fact that he sodomized and punched an unconscious woman
Yes it is up for debate and no he never sodomized and punched an unconscious woman.
He admitted to assaulting this woman, it is a fact.
Yeah, strange the comments aren’t closed for this one. Finally moving on i guess???
…or, is it because of the new guy in office??
O’s,
Why would you even think this?
gbs42 — I’d elaborate, but, if it ain’t that, it ain’t that. And I’m good with it. Wasn’t trying to be all rabbit-hole-ish.
Who knows? An interesting change of stance from the site. Comments should be interesting.
Why would it have anything to do with Trump? What’s the connection ? (Okay I know they have various things in common, but otherwise What’s the connection?) I wouldn’t be surprised if he forced one of his billionaire buddies who owns a team to go ahead and sign him.
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Apparently that is not the case a good portion of users here.
This doesn’t make sense? He was never convicted of anything and players who were accused of doing worse were unfortunately not banned but this guy accused but never found guilty of any of the accusations and still no teams are giving him a shot? Regardless of what information we do not know of he was never found guilty of any crimes other than he said she said and he’s black balled? MLB puts a hit on a guy and every teams falls in line. There must be something crazy in his jacket that doesn’t warrant criminal charges other than his hurtful Twitter comments?
He’s an a-hole, that’s why
Let’s see. AJ Pierzynski was an a-hole. Jose Bautista was a HUGE a-hole. Milton Bradley was an a-hole. These men had plenty of offers. Your logic make no sense.
None of those guys had multiple allegations of sexual misconduct from multiple women as far as I know
AJ all by himself sinks that YT channel.
Allegations mean nothing, and they have been proven false.
Not filing charges ≠ being proven false.
What about the pedo on the hall of fame ballot?
What in your mind lumps Bautista in with those other guys? You seem to specifically dislike him so nice he was the only one you added huge to?
In multiple states!
Does it matter there were more than 1? ..1 should be enough..
Ha ha. Definitely the weak link. Watchable though.
There is a difference between being an a-hole and being hated
Bradley was a class A of the hole but Pierzynski was just hated if he had a bad personality he wouldn’t be broadcasting for fox now
AJ’s the wrestling heel and leans into it, even appearing on a WWE broadcast in character. But he’s actually very fan accessible, graciously signing stuff and going out of his way on social media to interact with fans, consistently praising and reposting pictures of fans wearing his jersey. Think it’s a classic case of a Rodman type, you despise him if he’s an opponent, you adore him (or is Ozzie put it, hate him less) if he’s one of yours.
The guy couldn’t stay away from people’s tailpipes.
@Enregistre
So ‘allegations’ are facts, are they?
Have you watched the video where the woman who claimed to have been assaulted acknowledged she was setting him up for a payday for her. I love it when people ignore facts but believe allegations. You must be part of that movement whatever it’s called…
@Poolhalljunkies
Should it, when she was proven to be a liar and was setting Bauer up for a payday.
He’s a fool, but you should go and watch her interview before letting the guillotine drop, like so many others here who do trial by media and allegations. If any of it were true he’d be in the can, he isn’t.
Fred…I think the point here is the fact that there are allegations should and would give any prospective employer in any line of work pause before trusting this guy when there are so many other viable candidates with none of these potential problems already cropping up…that is why he is not in mlb ..hes simply not good enough to outweigh the possible problems he brings with him its that simple
Enregistre,
The fact is both women who accused Bauer were known extortionist/black mailers. Bauer was never charged with a crime AND not only was he never charged, she withdrew her civil case, where it only had to be proven Bauer was more likely than not to have committed the alleged crimes to receive compensation. She withdrew her case on the advice of her lawyer who knew it was not winnable… ie she was lying.
MLB suspending him for as long as they did was because Manfred hated Bauer and was looking for a reason. Manfred hated Bauer because he was outspoken on MLBs hypocrisy, he shined a light on Astros cheating long before it came to the surface. He complained about spider tack and made it known that since mlb refused to enforce cheating, he was going to start which lead him to winning the cy young in 2020.
Lucky for Manfred, fans such as yourself, took the bait and ran with it hook line and sinker.
The other fact is, Bauer revolutionized pitching. Those sticks that Cole complained about in college, nearly ever pitcher uses now. Same with all his warm up gear. “Pitch labs” that all MLB teams use, yeah, that was another complaint about Bauer. Him using pitch labs on his own during the offseason. The horror! Having your own pitching coach, yep, Bauer.
Bauer was hated because he was different and on the spectrum
But you can name guys like Fanilia, Herrera, Dotel and more that were actually convicted in criminal court and allowed back on the field by the MLB and teams took a chance or played a contract out. Case in point Herrera and Familia. So, there’s not a consistent stance from the league and teams. I wish there was. If the allegations, claims or involvement for a player is a problem then be consistent across the board. Especially in cases of proven and admitted guilt. SA, AA and DV have no place in society and every day people know that and pay the price for that if they violate it and they should. Players should be no different but the league can’t pick and choose. Until they get consistent, I can’t oppose Bauer from trying to get back in the league and I will question teams for not signing him when they opened the door before on other situations.
“I love it when people ignore facts”
Oh like how you ignore how, according to the courts, it is literally fact that Bauer punched and sodomized an unconscious woman? His legal team did not dispute this part of the allegations.
“MLB suspending him for as long as they did was because Manfred hated Bauer and was looking for a reason”
So that’s why an independent arbitrator also found him deserving of the longest suspension ever for violating the joint domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse policy? Odd
The independent auditor reinstated him immediately didn’t he…. Odd.
Is that a fact? I don’t have the court transcripts in front of me. It’s weird that if that were factual, the woman dropped her suit…. Odd
@Eighty Raw
Go and watch the video where she is in his bed and he’s asleep, take a good look at her face….
You’ve ignored all the facts.
Oh god, not McGriff again. How about the other women who came forward? How about the patterns of harassment towards women for years and years? How about his admission that he wouldn’t change his repugnant behavior? Those too are facts.
“The fact is both women who accused Bauer were known extortionist/black mailers. Bauer was never charged with a crime AND not only was he never charged, she withdrew her civil case, where it only had to be proven Bauer was more likely than not to have committed the alleged crimes to receive compensation. She withdrew her case on the advice of her lawyer who knew it was not winnable… ie she was lying.”
All of these have been roundly disproven by others in this thread. But ok, you have your own alternative facts.
Lots of people on the spectrum don’t r@pe women.
His Cy was in a shortened season.
Like the fact when Bauer said “Like the only reason I’d ever consider seeing you again is to choke you unconscious punch you in the face shove my first up your a— skull f—- you and kick you out naked.”
You’re ignoring that one!
Drasc – Great post, thank you for bringing a lot of facts.
Did he say he was on the spectrum? I hadn’t heard that before, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Shove his first what?
twenty – None of those three guys were cancelled.
It’s all about cancel culture, same reason why Atlanta lost the ASG.
Two of the most powerful men in MLB are John Henry and Mark Walter.
Look up their background, then you’ll understand.
@Enregistre Not filing charges ≠ being proven true either.
They didnt award backpay…odd. yall really are this stupid, huh?
Well guess what: I do have a judge’s ruling right in front of me! And it is indeed under “factual background” that Bauer punched and sodomized the accuser while she was unconscious …odd
I literally read the facts, under the heading “factual background” of the judge’s ruling. What matters is what his lawyers said/did under oath. Under oath, they did not dispute the accuser’s account of the sexual encounters. They were presented the opportunity to object to any part of it. They didnt. It therefore is evidence. It is fact. You are arguing against facts by talking about a video that was never presented by his team to be considered as evidence. I am talking about evidence
@Eighty Raw false!
@Eighty Raw Why would they award backpay?
Someone finally summed it up nicely! In this zeitgeist he is poison to a franchise. Right or wrong is irrelevant.
In a tailpipe, if I’m not mistaken.
Bauer was hated for a lot of reasons, but his conduct with women goes far beyond these women you think are blackmailers, because there were more than two anyway.
Yeah. The other 2 never ended in criminal charges or a lawsuit and somehow managed to be less convincing than L. H.
Enregistre summed it up in less words than I can. Hit the nail right on the head. I might be getting a little punch drunk but I have to agree.
Really took a bite out of the neck of that comment section. Way to go!
Billy
It’s bad PR to sign a guy who chokes so much
^ wins!
Couldn’t have said it better.
Reading that comment made me choke up.
…damn
@billysbballz “There must be something crazy in his jacket…”
That’s not necessarily the case.
This can all be credibly explained just from teams not wanting to get involved in a public relations struggle for one player whose record of prudence outside of what he’s been accused of and history of general verbal indiscretion of the kind teams prefer not to deal with, is not particularly good or reliable.
Do, say, the Giants really want to sign an aging starting pitcher who hasn’t faced MLB hitters in years only to watch him getting into an altercation—however justified—on social media? That’s the kind of things teams live to avoid.
He is a jerk.
However the hypocrisy of the mlb shines bright here. how many latin players have been
accused of worse things and are still in the league?
No one is saying those players should be in the league either
mlb is and that’s the whole point.
Again stop with the jerk comment. You don’t know him. The rest is accurate.
You’re defending a guy who said “Like the only reason I’d ever consider seeing you again is to choke you unconscious punch you in the face shove my first up your a— skull f—- you and kick you out naked” but clutching pearls over calling him a jerk? Lmao
dpsmith – Without question MLB has been hypocritical ever since they forced out the last true commissioner.
Look no further than the Atlanta ASG debacle as proof of where MLB stands.
His actions violated the personal conduct policy of MLB. They do their own investigations and criminal or civil proceedings or lack there of are not relevant.
I mean it’s a completely different bar to clear for the courts to find him guilty in a court of law and a league deciding the pros don’t outweigh the cons. Bauer just isn’t worth the headache.
tigerdoc616
I agree, you nailed it, opinions of woke MLB, not facts. End of story.
Here’s a fact: Bauer told the woman “Like the only reason I’d ever consider seeing you again is to choke you unconscious punch you in the face shove my first up your a— skull f—- you and kick you out naked.”
That’s not one of your facts, though. You prefer alternative facts and complain about things being woke when you don’t like them because they threaten your fragile masculinity.
He used to hammer mlb on his YouTube channel. You hammer the boss publicly, the boss is getting rid of you the first opportunity you give him. Two big dogs went at it and Trev came out a loser. In terms of his career, he picked a fight with the wrong guy. Unlucky.
Hope his is doing ok. Last time I saw him he looked like had just eaten a sheep !
billysbballz
“…this guy accused but never found guilty of any of the accusations and still no teams are giving him a shot?”
That should tell you all you need to know. Teams had access to the police and MLB investigations, and none of them want anything to do with him. I have no idea whether he’s guilty or not, but obviously MLB teams have a decided opinion on that.
Just because a DA doesn’t feel like a conviction is a slam dunk, which are the types of cases the pursue, doesn’t mean he’s innocent of the charges. It should also tell you something, when team are willing to look past bad behavior by some players, but aren’t willing to in Bauers’ case.
@Jean Matrac I don’t disagree with you and I have no dog in the fight. Even after Bauer was cleared from criminal charges, he still had at least one pending civil suit against him. More women could come out of the woodworks with their own separation allegations. No team wants that potential bad PR with a player they’ve chosen to employ. Whether he’s liable or not, it’s terrible optics for any team which chooses to employ him.
Even if there is a MLB team which wants to sign him, the MLBPA may not want him back.
@ Jean Matrac
I have to laugh at some of the Bauer haters on here and also MLB, all part of the ‘Metoo’ movement quite patently.
youtube.com/watch?v=tAs5DCuzdSA
@Enregistre
“Incel”, “incel”, “incel”, that’s the best you’ve got in relation to this matter, no facts, you petulant immature little child.
“Just because a DA doesn’t feel like a conviction is a slam dunk, which are the types of cases the pursue, doesn’t mean he’s innocent of the charges.”
It doesn’t mean he’s guilty either.
LFGSD619, I totally agree. But there are a lot of comments here claiming he was cleared, therefore innocent, which is incorrect. Not being charged means exactly that and nothing more.
Like I said in my post, I have no idea whether he’s guilty or not. But obviously all 30 MLB teams want nothing to do with him which speaks volumes.
People who say “He wasn’t found innocent the DA declined to file charges” all clearly believe he did it even if they won’t come out and say it.
There aren’t really any comments about him being cleared. There were two accusers that lied, one of whom was proven without shadow of doubt as extorting him. Any other accusations are up in the air because we don’t know if they lied also, or he did something seriously wrong. We do not know. We do know he was handed the largest suspension ever for his actions, it was shortened when the worst of the accusations was proven false. As of today we know he served a suspension possibly for what he didn’t do and what the league feels he may have done. That is all beside the point. My point is that the league banned him. They banned him for what he said about the league, and making them look bad. Everyone knows that is the reason, because the league lets women beaters play, and a cy young winner with great stuff cannot get a minor league contract for league minimum from a last place team. Enough said.
No, we know he served a suspension for violating MLB rules because we have court records where said violations are listed as “facts”
He punched and sodomized an unconscious woman (his legal team did not object these claims in court and they were entered into the record as fact), but refuses to take any sort of responsibility.
He wasn’t convicted because they settled out of court with him paying her hush money. He he was innocent, he wouldnt have paid her off.
@kidbryant He didn’t pay her one cent!
Yeah, he’s a saint just like julio urias, wander franco, felipe vasquez, want them on your team also?
False equivalence
nope if you defend bauer’s action’s and deny others you are a hypocrite and your opinions are automatically invalidated.
Sure, Jan.
Shut up, ignorant child.
Headline should be:
PERV PITCHER PROCURES PACT.
Or Bauer added to “Megan’s Top 100 Prospects”?
That’s slander.
Trevor Bauer throws the Roger Beshens Football Slider.
He does. He just claims it is his own original pitch. The curse of Beshens bites hard.
What’s the big whoop about that and why do people keep talking about it?
Make NPB Great Again.
Time to close the comments before the incels come out in force.
Undatable feminists use “incel.”
What’s your excuse?
@BuyButMets,
I’m guessing you responded because this hit a bit too close to home, and that’s unfortunate. Wouldn’t it be better if you incel guys and these undateable feminists could somehow get together and work things out? Come on, give it a try!
Those undatable feminists get more than you’ve ever gotten.
Actual incels would *hate* Trevor Bauer. He is exactly the type of “obnoxious brute” that Elliot Rodger was ranting about in his video.
@outinleftfield No I know it because it’s common sense. Flagged for ad hominem attacks.
he had a 2.48 ERA in mexico? haha bum
We found him, guys
Well at least he still gets a chance to still play.
Trevor Bauer must be truthful with himself and acknowledge that in May 2018 he received guidance from Roger Beshens on how to throw the Roger Beshens Football Slider. Roger Beshens frequently shares those messages on Twitter. Instead Bauer explained to Al Leiter and Pedro at the 2018 All Star game that he learned how to throw that pitch on his own. That’s known as karma. Bauer faced the consequences of his actions.
Perhaps Al passed some of that karma on to his son.
I think every MLB team had to have been in some sort of agreement to shut him out, because, if not, there’s no reasonable explanation for not signing him – baseball has always been and always will be played for money, it’s just ridiculous what happened to Bauer and all the hate he gets. The man got a raw deal, he’s not guilty of any crimes, and he’s an absolute pro of a pitcher in the prime of his career, he’d be one of the top starters in the league. I watch his YT, he posts a lot of baseball content, you can see exactly how incredibly talented he is and confident in his abilities.
Sure there’s a reasonable explanation: he’s a jerk.
@Enregistre
Do you personally know him? Should I assume, based on how you post here, that you’re also a jerk?
I’m a jerk because I don’t like him or because my political opinions don’t align with yours? I don’t get it. He’s been a jerk for many years and he’s laid it all out there on his twitter to see.
@Enregistre
I’m just using your same logic. I can’t make judgement because I don’t know the guy.
Since when can you only determine someone is a jerk if you know them personally?
You’re the only one here making this political. I’ve said zero about politics and you’re just trying to guide this in some direction instead of talking about baseball.
@Enregistre
Becaue that’s part of judging them by their character. If I don’t know their character, how do I know how to properly judge them. I generally hold my opinion on many people that I have never met. Social media has blown everything up, making everyone seem to have an opinion on someone, despite never even meeting them. Betts has said Bauer is an awesome guy. He’s played with him so should I assume that Betts is also a jerk?
See that guy over there? He looks so judgemental.
Look at this virtue signaling by Old York!
@Enregistre
How so? What’s the point of judging before I know the person?
Bauer hasn’t pitched since 2021 and people in here calling him a top 20 pitcher lmao. Pitching in freaking Japan and Mexico because no one wants his rapey abusive as$. Hahaha
One year older. Soon to be 35. Farther and farther from a mlb career and me with popcorn enjoying it all burn down for him
Sounds like you’re judging Bauer as innocent, but somehow, I doubt you know him.
You can judge bad people when they do bad things. It’s ok. You can judge the N@zis, no one will hold it against you.
Bauer gave everyone access to his character, and I was only watching the videos. We aren’t talking about a careful, reserved man when it comes to putting himself out there. Not much guessing involved when it comes to Trevor’s opinions.
Old York, watch his YouTube channel.
Is he though? You know him personally? I watch his channel, seems like a highly competitive man to me.
I’ve seen him harass women from his for long enough to know he’s a jerk.
Enregistre Talking right out your behind. You’re embarrassing yourself. You don’t know anything about any of this. Admit it.
Hey look it’s barrybondsers burner!
His teammates, pretty much all of them, also say he is a jerk.
I used to watch his channel. He is a competitor. But a very disrespectful one. I’ve said this often, his channel is a tragedy. Started out so good in terms of content. The pitching science knowledge he shared was outstanding. Then he just got carried away with himself and the success and the attacks came in. He has said it himself. He regrets the turn it took.
The kid is fighting for his life and everything he has ever believed in, his dreams and his love of the game of baseball.
I applaud him for not giving up.
He has been slandered and tarnished and some may say rightfully so but there is a good possibility that the entirety of his dilemma is an attack on him, his heart and his spirit, and not the other way around.
There is a good possibility that it is his heart and spirit that is the good in the world, and those who work to destroy it work against that good. I for one believe in him and his fight and hope he has a good season in Japan.
Imagine applauding someone for not giving up and saying that his heart and spirit that is the good in the world who said “the only reason I’d ever consider seeing you again is to choke you unconscious punch you in the face shove my first up your a— skull f—- you and kick you out naked.”
You are reporting what is certainly a very dramatized response to a situation that you have no real clue about. Immaturity rears it’s ugly head often in this life, what is said can’t be unsaid but it is often over reaching and not exactly the truth but an exaggeration of the truth. In so many ways this is learned behavior from the movies we watch and the media reports we read, how they become acceptable in a way, and then you are held to be accountable for these learned dramatics and what is a learned manner of communication.
It’s sad because it’s going on all over the world in similar ways in many people’s lives as a result of a spirit that wishes to destroy the good in people.
lol bwmiller79 muted me after this. That text was admitted to the court as fact. But he has more clue about this than me? Then tries to excuse it by blaming movies?
Luke, you are revealing yourself. Bauer’s burner?
No they don’t.
Let go of your prejudices. They are baseless. You can’t say it with any conviction because you don’t know him.
You don’t need to know someone to know they’re a jerk. How is it prejudiced to say that someone who tweeted back at a woman who called him her “least favorite person in all of sports” for 12 hours and getting his followers to dogpile on her too is a jerk?
How does that disqualify him from playing in the MLB?
That’s why you think he’s a jerk? That’s ridiculous.
If you don’t think that’s being a jerk, nor do you think all the allegations make him a jerk, you have very poor judge of character.
You’ll have to explain how Manny Machado is still in the league.
He’s never had anything off-field remotely close to Bauer. Don’t be obtuse.
To be fair, there’s been a ton of jerks in baseball that never got blacklisted.
There’s a difference between being a jerk on the field like Machado, Josh Donaldson, etc. and doing what he did off it, surely you can notice that.
@Jaysfansince92
Like who? I don’t think there have been any. I think you’re seeing the competitive nature of these athletes and you’re not a fan of this behaviour. Understandable bias but not really an example of jerks.
yes he is blackballed. obviously.
I’ve heard some of Trevor’s rap album. Confident, sure. Talent, absolutely zero.
It’s definitely cringe worthy though.
Or it could be 30 MLB teams independently made their own decision. In my worklife, I have had several jobs. It has not been unusual for me to apply to over 30 to get an offer, and some I haven’t accepted. So sorry he didn’t pass muster.
Stymee This is one of your worst takes ever. I don’t think anyone is making the argument he’s not talented enough to play. He’s a top level pitcher, the man won a Cy Young.
@LukeStrong
On the subject of bad takes:
You keep saying Bauer got a “raw deal” even though you have no idea what turned up in MLB’s investigation. And you know an independent arbiter upheld the suspension.
Instead of making baseless claims about information you’re not privy to, wouldn’t it be better to keep quiet on the subject?
He punched and sodomized an unconscious woman. He (via his legal team) did not dispute this in court.
He broke the domestic violence policy, was found guilty by MLB and was suspended, then he appealed the suspension and a former judge who was the arbitrator found him guilty again, and he continues to say if signed that he will violate that policy again. What incentive do MLB teams have to sign him? Its not like he was a great pitcher. He came out on his social media and said that the only time he was good was when he was using sticky substances. Even showed how he got around the rules against it. He is an unrepentant violator of MLB rules and not a good pitcher unless he is cheating.
Bauer is a proud pervert who hurts people to get aroused..
Surprised Bauer hasn’t been able to return to Major League Baseball yet. Hopefully he continues to pitch well in Japan in 2025 and that opens up a big league shot for him
@TribeFan88
I think he’s done in the MLB. If teams aren’t willing to sign him when he’s in his low-30s, I doubt they want a 35+ year old starter signed.
Hopefully we never have to see him in MLB again.
Just for comparisons sake, the last time he played in the NPB he had a 2.76 ERA that ranked 90th among starting pitchers in NPB as a whole and 47th in the Japan Central League. With just 12 teams in NPB that means he was a back of the rotation starter in Japan. A #6 starter. Does that sound like an MLB quality pitcher to you?
Can you tell me what Shota Imanaga’s 2023 ERA was?
Can you then tell me Trevor Bauer’s?
That’s a disingenuous lie again from you. You’re including relievers and basing your ranking based on ERA.
baseball-reference.com/register/leader.cgi?type=pi…
If anyone is interested to see where he pulled his BS.
Ok Ryan. Whatever you say Ryan.
Sort by ERA. 47th. In a 6-team division. So where did I lie Ryan?
I posted the facts. You don’t like facts Ryan. You have proven that over the years.
Just admit that you are Ryan. We all already know it.
lol That’s 47th in ERA if you count relievers.
Tell me where Dylan Cease ranks in ERA when you include relievers with no minimum IP threshold.
Ok Ryan. Say hello to my little friend. This Ryan account joins the other Ryan accounts.
Tomoyuki Sugano put up worse numbers and he’s now being paid $13MM to pitch in a big league rotation.
Ryan loved Bauer like he could do no wrong. Which is weird. You hate Bauer and feel the need to put a spin on his on field performance. When you just don’t like or agree with him personally.
I think Bauer is a narcissist who has cost himself 100’s of millions. Thinks he’s the smartest man in the room all the time.
With all that being said—I’m not going to deny that he’s clearly been capable of being a major league starter over the last few years.
Jbigz and Ryan hate each other Einstein!
Oh and by the way you are 100% correct in your assessment of Bauer Jbigz. It’s a real shame too because the behind the scenes narrations of his starts that he posts on Youtube could be great for baseball imo.
lol I do not hate you Ryan. I’ve said that before.
So funny that this guy thinks I’m actually you. But I I believe at one point you accused me of being him but I think that was cleared up pretty quick. Just funny to me.
Anyways, cheers!
If his NPB performance hasn’t got him a shot so far, nothing he can do this year will likely change that. 34 and getting older, a public relations nightmare and just a plain jerk isn’t something teams are looking to sign.
Are you ignorant or just horrible?
Listen, it’s not collusion it’s cancer, nobody wants him around, owners, managers, players, nobody!
His MLB career is over, o. v. e. r. OVER!! Ahahahahaha!
@NYCityRiddler
Mine is over too. No one wants an old man.
@Old York
You’re the man, you’re one of the few people on here who is worth reading. Keep the faith pal & go Yanks! Ahahaha!
York – There are plenty of women who want an old man, if he’s rich ;O)
@Fever Pitch Guy
I told you I’m a greeter at Walmart. I thought you had the rich parents!?!
He made his bed long before the lawsuits started rolling in.
Good to see him back with the Baystars. Not going to be fun having him pitch against my Giants but I’m glad he gets to play again.
Have a least favorite Japanese team now.
He belong in the mLB he was step up mlb is black ball him it sickens
You weren’t there either, how do you know he DIDN’T do it? What makes your opinion correct vs. the 3–4 women who have come forward?
Well for one he showed a video that the one accuser made of her smiling while in bed with him sleeping beside her that showed no signs of bruising or any sign of violence of any kind.
He also showed records of her texting people about her plan to get money from him (before said incident occurred).
There were also texts where it shows she was planning on having someone else bruise her up before she went to the police.
Part of the settlement that he made with her in court was that he would be allowed to show the evidence to prove that he was innocent. If he wasn’t, do you really think she would have agreed to that?
And how do you know when that video is taken? Why should we believe you when your source is Bauer himself? Also, you’re focused on one woman when there are others, plus all the years of online harassment of other women.
A video that he refused to admit as evidence in court even though it might have been enough to win the one defamation case that he allowed to go to court and that he lost. Do you think maybe, just maybe, it was fake?
The settlement was sealed, so you have no idea what was in it. All anyone knows is she got $80,000. That is it.
The other women were even less convincing than L. H. One was even indicted for felony fraud and extortion against Bauer and another guy.
The girl already admitted that that video wasn’t fake. And I’m not sure how you fake a video like that one. Her argument was that the bruises hadn’t set in yet or something like that but she confirmed that the video was authentic.
Settlement involved no money changing hands or admission of wrongdoing. The $80k was from her father’s homeowner’s insurance. She has confirmed this.
Jaysfan’s source isn’t Bauer. It’s Lindsey herself. She admitted that the video was real and was taken when and where Bauer said it was taken.
Because if it wasn’t true, then the woman would have launched a fresh set of lawsuits. Part of the resolution of the previous lawsuits was that Bauer would have the ability to show those videos to the public. How do you think he got the videos and texts off her phone in the first place??
She didn’t get that money from him. It came from her insurance company or something along those lines. Bauer himself didn’t pay out anything.
The women were all grifters. He was a mark. He talked through it all on his YT, showed what I think was conclusive proof. Come on man, you know how many women are out there who are trying to get their hooks in a pro athlete multi millionaire… it’s not like he met any of them at church.
@Luke Strong
Or maybe it’s the opposite: jocks using their status to get their hooks in women. As a guy, I’ve been around plenty of guys who have pulled that crap. Lots of guys are insecure jerks who think controlling a woman makes them a real “man.”
Far fewer than you think, sorry you’ve had such bad experiences with women making you believe this.
Also, the woman he spent 12 hours harassing on YouTube was a grifter?
Trevor Bauer never would have won the Cy Young without the Roger Beshens Football Slider. Bauer and Driveline took advantage of that pitch crediting technology instead of recognizing Roger Beshens.
Roger Beshens didn’t need any technology to explain how to throw his Football Slider. On center grip, throw like a football, stiff wrist.
Where is the technology if we already know about it?
You mean the sweeper?
I despise Trevor Bauer he’s a clubhouse cancer and a narcissistic a-hole. However he was cleared of any wrong doing and should not be banned from playing in MLB.
He’s not band. He’s unwanted.
Barry Bonds at age 42, had a 162 ops+ season, and ops over 1.000. He got no offers for his age 43 season.
Nobody wanted him. Was that because of ability, or…
He’s not banned. No one wants to sign him.
He also was not cleared of any wrongdoing like OP says. Not in the slightest! MLB gave him the longest suspension in history for violating the joint domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse policy. And then an independent arbitrator gave him the longest suspension in history for violating the joint domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse.
he’s not banned, no team wants a clubhouse cancer and narcissistic a-hole as you said yourself.
False. Bauer wasn’t cleared of wrongdoing; he broke the rules and is paying the price. People lose their jobs over stuff like this all the time. Why should Bauer be treated differently than those people?
From the story:
“Because the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy doesn’t require criminal charges for the league to take action.”
He’s going to sue in a few years. And he’s going to win. MLB has a monopoly on professional baseball in America. Csnt blackball someone like this.
Bauer and BITA. Certain kinds of guys stick together.
He will sue. And he will win. Wait and see.
If he actually did it then there would have been charges. It’s no coincidence the suspension was the exact length of the Dodger’s contract. They want it out from that contract and MLB was happy to oblige since Bauer is not the most popular one in their offices.
The burden of proof is far lower for MLB.
I missed where he was cleared. I think you missed where an arbitrator heard both sides and being the only one to hear both sides, ruled that the longest suspension in MLB history was warranted. I also know he took no further legal action against MLB. He may not be legally guilty, but he sure isn’t innocent.
Actually, the arbiter ruled that suspension was too long and cut a significant amount off of it. By the time the decision was made, he had already served the entirety of the suspension that the arbiter lowered it to. Kind of hard to lower it further at that point.
It’s not just the women. It’s the other stunts he pulled like wrecking his hand before the playoffs playing with his drone or launching the ball to center when he got the hook. I listened to a number of his pressers when he was with Cleveland. I’ve never heard such a self-absorbed narcissist. He was never a team guy. He was all about his own stats and his latest genius trick.
Being a narcissist is not a reason to not employ someone who won a Cy Young award not too long ago and is still in his prime years.
He will sue. And he will win.
But it’s not the reason, because there are so many others
What legitimate reason is there for him not being in MLB right now?
His treatment of women for the better part of a decade.
Joel, if he could have sued, he would have. He was found to have violated MLB policy. Once by MLB and a second time by an arbitrator. Since then he has said he will not stop doing what got him suspended because he things its his private business. He will never play in MLB until he agrees to stop. Since he won’t he can play in Mexico and Japan.
@BITA, Actually, it can be a reason or one of the reasons. Baseball is a business, they are not obligated to hire everyone or anyone. If individual owners view an individual as harmful to the product the owner is putting on the field or their product image/reputation, they may decide not to employ that individual. They are under no obligation to employ them.
If he sues, he will lose. If he felt he had a case, he probably would have sued by now so that he could play in the majors again. He has offered to play for league minimum which suggests he values playing highly. Just because no team has offered him a contract is not evidence of collusion or blacklisting. It is probably evidence that all the teams see the costs of having him are greater than the benefits.
That a pitcher throwing the ball over the CF fence when pulled is some unutterable black mark, is absurd.
See we needed a good thread to exercise the mute button!
Indeed.
@Salzilla
Mute….!!!
/s
What a joke. A cy young pitcher colluded against and black balled by MLB from the game over an accusation that was utterly debunked.
Just one accusation huh? And not a pattern of being a jerk for the better part of a decade?
Being a jerk isn’t collusion and ban worthy. We all know jerks, but you don’t actively strip them of their livelihood for it. The main accusation was debunked. She lied and conspired to set him up. That was the mai. Accusation. The others never reached the level of any court, let alone a verdict. The league believed the girl that lied, and was more then happy to allow quantity, not evidence (the stuff courts use) to collude against him in the aftermath of a ban.
“Actively strip them of their livelihood” dude he’s been pitching in Japan, not on the street.
I like how everyone points to one specious example and ignores the dozens of other problematic behaviors Bauer has engaged in over the years.
Such as? Jerk? Half these guys aren’t exactly role models. Calling out the league? Some would call him a whistle blower, and him being right doesn’t help the argument. The girls? What exactly was he convicted of? The main Terrible one was debunked. She lied. Bad teammate? Dime a dozen
Maybe when he spent 12 hours harassing a college woman on Twitter? I see you’re ignoring the other women who came forward too.
And we see that you’re making specious, unsupported claims about ‘other women.’
No, I haven’t. What did he do that he was found guilty of? You know, the kind of stuff that normally we would use as the gauge for a verdict, ban, etc. it seems like allegations are enough in this alternate world. I am not saying he did’t do everything they say. I just don’t know if they are believable, or as unbelievable as the biggest hoax one.
Everything that MLB and an independent arbitrator said was against MLB’s policies, that’s what he did.
Because Japan is exactly like MLB baseball in your own country? I am sure he is making the same amount too.
What does this have to do with anything?
He was suspended for anything he did or didn’t do. So all of it is past tense now. Why again is a cy young pitcher not throwing pitches for a major league team? We know it wasn’t because of performance. We know he is still better than many pitchers in the bigs right now and is on record saying he will pitch for league minimum to regain value. Not a single team? Not even a minor league contract? There are girlfriend and wife beating pitchers on rosters right now that teams have no trouble hiring. So, yeah, this is about the commissioner and league colluding to ban a player (that isn’t actually banned).
He was suspended for breaking MLB policy. And he’s unrepentant for it. He assaulted multiple women. It’s very simple. Why can’t you get that through your caveman head of yours?
It wasn’t debunked. Don’t make stuff up; read the story before making anymore false claims.
The main claim was debunked. That isn’t a debate. She was caught red handed.
Then why was the suspension upheld? MLB conducted its investigation, as any company would. If he hadn’t violated the terms of his contract, the suspension would have been lifted. It’s what companies do in situations like this, and you can bet they do it on the up-and-up.
I worked for a company where someone was fired for similar reasons. There was no arrest or court case, but the guy was terminated. He was a married man (at the time) with a young child.
The suspension was upheld because by the time they finished investigating he had already been suspended. It was magically the same exact number of days he had missed when they finalized it. Kind of a weird coincidence right?
The Cardinals would sign Bauer if they weren’t in the middle of a massive rebuild.
Nobody will sign him because Manfred doesn’t want him around.
He will sue. He will win. Then all the teams can split the cost of this mess.
@BITA
Since you apparently have access to MLB’s investigation, could you post a link? That way, we can all be well-informed, like you.
The ban was the largest for that “offense” ever. The suspension was proven to be egregious and lowered due to the questionable allegations, and when the main and worst allegation was proven false, the entire situation came under question.
Again, I don’t know if the non hoax ones have merit, because they weren’t taken to court, nor was he proven guilty. The league has many reason to hate and want Bauer gone. He made them look terrible for three years about banned substances, and calling out league practices validly or not. He was a pain in the ass making waves for them. You have to admit that he SERVED his suspension and we don’t get to prolong it because of the exact thing he already served (right or wrong). He is league banned, and that is called collusion. People think a cy young caliber pitcher isn’t in demand at league minimum, let alone what he is now? Ridiculous.
It’s collusion to not want a PR headache?
Yes. That is basically the core of collusion. Collusion is banned in baseball and has already been litigated in the past. You can’t conspire amongst the owners or with the league to the detriment of the players knowingly.
Or maybe teams don’t want to deal with his baggage?
It’s not collusion to avoid hiring someone who has violated the terms of his previous contract. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, and others have lost their jobs and, in many cases, their licenses for similar indiscretions. Those people are done in those professions. Why should Trevor Bauer be treated differently? He was given a tremendous opportunity and threw it clear out of the ballpark.
BITA, If what you seem to be suggesting is the case, then why didn’t the arbitrator limit the suspension to the number of days he was suspended without pay? In the unlikely event that Bauer ever pitches again in the major leagues, some of his pay will be withheld to cover the days for which he was paid.
Because what you are describing isn’t collusion. That is an individual choice by the hiring parties either by personal choice or because of a rule within their field. Baseball has, does, and will hire players with domestic issues, abuse, etc. because they want talent. They also rehire because of the basic tenant of time served for one’s offenses. Collusion has been litigated already in baseball, and baseball lost BIG TIME.
Bauer is worse than any of the whataboutisms you’re postulating because of a litany of other issues.
He had a 4.51 ERA when he was not admittedly cheating with sticky substances. in his hubris he literally told the world on his YouTube account exactly when he was cheating, so we can see exactly when it was and when we were seeing his actual level of talent.
The last time he played in the NPB he had a 2.76 ERA that ranked 90th among starting pitchers in NPB as a whole and 47th in the Japan Central League. With just 12 teams in NPB that means he was a back of the rotation starter in Japan. A #6 starter.
It wasn’t debunked at the arbitration hearing. He owns the record for longest suspension.
Literally entered into the court record as “fact” that he punched and sodomized an unconscious woman
Urias is out of baseball.
Now for Bauer. Start with baseball skills only.
He had a 4.51 ERA in MLB when not cheating with sticky stuff. We know EXACTLY when he was cheating because he told everyone when he had cheated on his YouTube videos.
2.76 ERA in NPB. That ranked 90th in the 12 team NPB as a whole and 47th in a 6 team Central league.
He is NOT a good pitcher.
Now for the rest.
Bauer and his attorney admitted to beating women to get his rocks off. He said it was consensual, and it might have been. When FOUR women come out about it, it’s likely not, but let’s go with while sick, its consensual.
It’s STILL against the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence policy. He agreed to live by those rules when he signed his contract, and it is against those rules.
He was convicted twice of violating that policy on 3 counts, all with different women. Once by MLB and one by an independent arbitrator when he appealed the suspension.
Bauer has said repeatedly that he is not willing to stop the behavior that got him suspended. That it is private. That may be, but it’s still against MLB policy. to play in MLB you have to agree to abide by that policy and he has said repeatedly that he has no intention of doing so.
Why would any team take a chance on him doing it again and getting suspended again even if he was a good pitcher? We have determined already that he is NOT a good pitcher.
Bauer was never found not guilty. His case never went to court in California. There is still one lawsuit pending against him in Arizona. He has only been to court once on the subject and he lost that case. He sued a publication for defamation and the court ruled against Bauer. He dropped the 2 other defamation cases he had filed within days of losing that case in court.
He is a cancer in the clubhouse. Look at how many former MLB teammates from 3 different teams said publicly that they would not want to play with him again. Of his former teammates on 3 different teams, only TWO have said they would want him back. TWO.
He is consistently misogynistic and toxic on social media.
He would be a PR nightmare for any team that chose to sign him, even on a minor league deal.
There is simply no benefit to signing him. Not from a baseball standpoint and certainly not from a PR standpoint. That is why no MLB team has even TALKED to him or his agent about it. We know that because Bauer keeps crying about that on social media.
@websoulsurfer (who suspiciously sounds like Pads Fans) because you are on mission to prove that you and only you are right, I have this to say.
There isn’t a team in MLB that has 5 current uninjured starting pitchers who are better than him. Your Padres have 3. 2 if they trade Dylan Cease.
Neither the commissioner’s office nor the arbiter has the authority to “convict” Bauer or anyone else of anything.
He wasn’t found innocent because in US courts NO ONE is ever found innocent. Even in the most obvious false accusation ever it’s either find guilty or fail to find guilty. The fact that there wasn’t even enough evidence to file charges let alone bring those charges to trial and score a conviction says he’s more *likely* to have been innocent than someone who was charged but acquitted at trial. The only reason he wasn’t acquitted is because the DA wouldn’t give a jury that chance. So saying “He wasn’t found innocent his case never went to court” works in his favor not against it.
The Arizona accuser was indicted for felony fraud and extortion against Bauer. Bringing her up also hurts your case a lot more than it helps.
Have a nice day.
Believing that someone was innocent just because they didn’t go to court, or denying all his transgressions because one (of several) accuser might have embellished, is a pretty clear sign that you are dismissing misogyny and assault.
Shoeless Joe Jackson and his Black Sox teammates weren’t found guilty either.
Either was Pete Rose.
To assume that Bauer is good enough to be a #2 starter is probably a stretch. He would be getting his hands checked every inning in MLB, and he doesn’t exactly dominate without his sticky stuff. Probably still a decent pitcher, but a #2 seems far from a guarantee.
Given his current dating situation, Bauer probably still has plenty of sticky stuff on his hands.
I’m thinking a #4. It’s ludicrous to say he isn’t currently good enough to pitch in MLB like websoulsurfer is doing tho.
This guy didn’t just burn bridges at every stop in MLB, he obliterated them. That was before anything else became public. That’s not someone anyone will go to bat for, so to speak.
I can tell you no one in MLB will ever touch him. Word gets around.
I agree that claiming cheating was going on and demanding they deal with it incensed the league. Making it worse he flat out said he would cheat also, and won the cy young cheating. It forced the leagues hand.
@Barry bondser
People are generally not capable of thinking beyond their own bias. A lot of people are low IQ as well, which doesn’t help.
Wait a second, you said: “if I don’t know their character, how do I know how to properly judge them. I generally hold my opinion on many people that I have never met.”
Gee, this comment above sounds like you’re judging a lot of people you haven’t met!
@Enregistre
Those are just stats… Average IQ is about 98.
When did I say anything about IQ?
Furthermore, have you considered that YOU are maybe biased TOWARDS Bauer?
@Enregistre
I’ve never been biased in my whole life.
I don’t think you can say stuff like “people are generally not capable of thinking beyond their own bias. A lot of people are low IQ as well, which doesn’t help” when you are incapable of judging your biases.
@Enregistre
I can say it when the data confirms it. Similar to when someone drops a ball and it falls to the ground. We generally call that gravity because it’s a scientific fact. Has nothing to do with bias.
You’re missing the point. You saying that you’ve never been biased is incredibly deluded.
Bauer is reformed. He even excepted language in his NPB contract that he will do his own dishes from now on…
Why do you despise all those politicians you’ve never met?
Lock up all your wives, mothers, sisters, daughters, grandmothers..he’ll, every woman in Japan as none of them are safe w Bauer on the prowl
Who actually cares about Trevor Bauer? He’s totally non significant. Shouldn’t waste any thoughts or comments on him.
Agreed
Irony.
No better way to say who cares than to comment on him.
MLB just doesn’t like him. This whole situation gave them a reason to get him gone.
I understand having to investigate such things, but dang.
By the time a team has the balls to take on the drama his arm will be gone
Bauer violated the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy, as did Julio Urias. That’s why both no longer have the privilege of playing Major League Baseball.
Comparing the two is laughable
Joe, you are right. Bauer was far worse. Convicted twice by MLB and an arbitrator of violating the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy on 3 counts. Received the longest suspension in MLB history because of that fact.
His arm was never good. He had a 4.51 ERA when not using sticky substances and he went on his YouTube account and told the world exactly when he had been using them and when he hadn’t. Even in what appears to be a good season in the NPB he ranked 90th in a 12-team league, So, there is that.
They are comparable because both violated the terms of the same policy in their contract and are now out of Major League Baseball.
But….they could run for office in the US….or be in charge or some large government department….
The way things are going, Bauer will be pardoned and put in charge of women’s healthcare.
Here is the difference. One was punished in a criminal court. The other wasn’t. I don’t even think there where any charges brought against.
MLB doesn’t need legal charges to be brought to find that a player is guilty of violating their rules. Not only did MLB find him guilty of doing so, so did an arbitrator.
That you continue to argue in defense of someone that admitted to doing what he was accused of doesn’t look good for you.
That you continue to post the same falsehoods from multiple accounts doesn’t look good for you either.
It’s weird that you think there is only one person here who is anti-Bauer for all that he’s done and are accusing this guy of having burners. He’s posting facts too.
“MLB doesn’t need legal charges to be brought to find that a player is guilty of violating their rules. Not only did MLB find him guilty of doing so, so did an arbitrator.”
This is what actually happened.
There isn’t only one person. Outinleftfield specifically has multiple accounts you can obviously tell.
MLB didn’t find him “guilty” of anything. They don’t have the authority to assign guilt or innocence.
Yes they did, and yes they do. They can do their own investigations and issue their own punishment, like any employer.
Can’t wait to order the 2025 Nippon baseball card set! Tanaka, Sugano, Murakami, Bauer!
Barry bondser is Bauer’s burner
Is Bauer better than Sale, Skubal, Wheeler, Ragans, Cease, Lugo, Webb, Kirby, Gilbert, Burnes, Fried, Bibee, Shota, Valdez, Cole, Ohtani, Snell, Glasnow, Yamamoto, Nola? Or do I not know anything about baseball stats like WAR in 2024 MLB
Some of those guys have injury/durability concerns that might lead to them putting up less WAR in 2025 than Bauer would. In terms of ERA however, those dudes probably have Bauer beat.
Steven Wright did though. He signed with the Pirates, but didn’t get back to the Majors.
One team offered Wright everything in the world to pitch for them, but he turned them down.
As Wright himself said:
“You can’t have everything. Where would you put it?”
He should be signed to a major league club. Paid his dues on the punishment. Let him continue his career.
Playing a sport at any level isn’t a right; it’s a privilege. Nobody is blocking Bauer’s right to make a living; he just can’t do it in Major League Baseball. It happens all the time in other fields.
I have a feeling there’s something in MLB’s investigation nobody wants to come out.
Dude is a jerk but his charges were dropped along with the civil case.
Read the story. A court case or conviction is not needed.
Manfred probably has skeletons in closet that he doesn’t want to come out. Better to sweep it under the rug than to bring exposure.
Bauer is not in the MLB for the same reason why Yasiel Puig did not get back into the game after his ill-fated near-miss with the Braves in 2020 – they are simply not liked. You can make comparisons to others, but this belief that Bauer is unique in his hatred by the league is absurd. Him, Puig, Roberto Osuna, and Jose Urias are all in the same boat, as are and have been others.
But like Puig and [Julio] Urias, he was accused multiple times (Osuna was a somewhat different story but not entirely), and that sort of thing makes said allegations feel a lot more real for an employer. It’s not even about what was done as much as fear thereof, bad press, and the belief by some that he’s not a great teammate. I can understand why his presence in a lockerroom may not be desired.
I dont know if Osuna was hated, unless you mean hated because of domestic violence…but Chapman is loved for that so the MLB isnt really consistent.
@DarkSide830
As I’m sure you know, Bauer and Puig were agent Rachel Luba’s only two MLB clients.
I would absolutely love to see an in pinstripes but just imagine if he latched on to the A’s, spent a little time in Sacramento , then on to Vegas baby!!
It just might be fun for a little while reading all the over exaggerated stories about MLB players and all the terrible things they did that most people could only dream of having the money to do exactly the same things player did
Yes he was cleared of the accusations. Regardless he’s considered a clubhouse cancer and a headache. That’s why no one is signing him. This isn’t hard to understand
He wasn’t cleared of anything. The suspension was upheld, although shortened,
MLB suspension means little outside of baseball, the suspension was reduced to basically time served
Not cleared at all in fact
He was found guilty of violating MLB policy twice. Once by MLB and then again on appeal.
No one is signing him because he has said he will not stop doing what got him suspended in the first place.
@outinleftfield He still wasn’t “found guilty” of anything.
Yes, he was, in MLB’s investigation. They have the right to suspend players.
They do have the right to suspend players but that is not synonymous with “finding them guilty” of anything.
Funny enough, he never pitched for the Guardians… and never will.
Nothing like a Bauer article to have a spike in website traffic
Some one was just saying something to the effect that this off season is boring.. leave it to Bauer to fix that problem lol
Got blackballed for being kinky in his personal life with women who were willing.
#justicefortrevor
Thanks for confirming where you stand on morals or upholding your commitments and contracts.
Bauer and his attorney admitted that he beat women to get his rocks off. He said it was consensual, and it might have been. When FOUR women come out about it, it’s likely not, but let’s go with while sick, its consensual.
It’s still against the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence policy. He agreed to abide by those rules when he signed his contract, and it is against those rules.
He was convicted twice of violating that policy on 3 counts, all with different women. Once by MLB and one by an independent arbitrator when he appealed the suspension.
Bauer has said repeatedly that he is not willing to stop the behavior that got him suspended. That it is private. It is private behavior AND it’s still against MLB policy. To play in MLB you have to sign a contract agreeing to abide by that policy and he has said repeatedly that he has no intention of doing so.
Why would any team take a chance on him doing it again and getting suspended again even if he was a good pitcher? He is NOT a good pitcher, but I am not covering that here. Read my other posts for that.
Bauer was never found innocent. His case never went to court in California as is the case in over 90% of he said, she said cases. There is still one lawsuit for the same behavior pending against him in Arizona.
He has only been to court once on the subject and he lost that case. He sued a publication for defamation and the court ruled against Bauer. He dropped the 2 other defamation cases he had filed within days of losing that case in court.
He deserves the consequences of his actions. Justice is what Trevor got.
Now if you said mercy for Trevor, that would be an entirely different conversation.
I literally didn’t read any of that lol.
@DDC
I stopped reading your comment after you misused the word “literally.” Please hire an editor.
That fits. Why would you want to confuse yourself with the facts of the situation?
@websoulsurfer
Facts, facts, facts. What kind of a Murican are you?
If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit!
He was convicted for violating the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence Policy on 3 counts with 3 different women. Twice. Once by MLB and once by an independent arbitrator. What part of that do you not understand?
@ Darren – I very happily hit the mute button. Websoulsurfer really has it out for Bauer and is obssessed with telling everyone over and over about his hatred for him. Sad.
Websoulsurfer is stating facts; he’s not saying anything about hating him. You interpreting it this way shows how blinded you are by your toxic masculinity.
Doug is Bauer’s other burner?
Who unironically uses the term “toxic masculinity” in 2025 lol?
@LFD
People who understand what it looks like while you are totally ignorant. You’re why men are so reviled by many women.
He hasn’t lost a criminal case and he effectively won a civil case against one woman. Another woman was charged criminally for her part of the mess.
Only one that was lost was not in court it was MLB. He later won an appeal with the MLB.
I can certainly see why many wouldn’t want him on their team but it shouldn’t be because of his bed rom activities given the information we have now.
The information we have now is that it is considered fact by the courts that he punched and sodomized an unconscious woman.
@eighty what court? The accusations never got to court? Please source i must have missed something
I only know of civil trials of which Bauer lost none
Joew, The court that ruled in the defamation case that Bauer filed against DeadSpin. Bauer lost that one. Its the only time he went to court.
@websoulsurfer (who suspiciously sounds like Pads Fans) because you are on mission to prove that you and only you are right, I have this to say.
There isn’t a team in MLB that has 5 current uninjured starting pitchers who are better than him. Your Padres have 3. 2 if they trade Dylan Cease.
Neither the commissioner’s office nor the arbiter has the authority to “convict” Bauer or anyone else of anything.
He wasn’t found innocent because in US courts NO ONE is ever found innocent. Even in the most obvious false accusation ever it’s either find guilty or fail to find guilty. The fact that there wasn’t even enough evidence to file charges let alone bring those charges to trial and score a conviction says he’s more *likely* to have been innocent than someone who was charged but acquitted at trial. The only reason he wasn’t acquitted is because the DA wouldn’t give a jury that chance. So saying “He wasn’t found innocent his case never went to court” works in his favor not against it.
The Arizona accuser was indicted for felony fraud and extortion against Bauer. Bringing her up also hurts your case a lot more than it helps.
Have a nice day.
MLB prefers that players avoid talking about anything sex related to their personal sex lives especially if it might distract the team.
When someone focuses only on themselves it can be a relief when that behavior stops.
Is he suspended or banned as of right now, yes or no?
His status by MLB doesn’t matter.
No team wants him and it’s obvious,
Each team clearly has its own reason.
Yeah just like no team wanted Barry Bonds even though he was still hitting 30 homers while leading the league in walks and OBP lol.
Let it go, what’s done is done.
Bonds hit more home runs cause of steroids and we know without the Roger Beshens Football Slider Trevor Bauer wouldn’t have won the Cy Young or landed a big contract.
The Dodgers are always on the lookout for elite Roger Beshens Football Slider pitchers. In May 2018 pitchers like Glasnow, Snell, Flaherty, Bauer… learned the same thing. The Roger Beshens Football Slider.
That’s true, no one wanted Barry Bonds at the end of his career. Why? Because he was a jerk and had baggage. Less than Bauer. Was that cOlLuSiOn too?
so glad the mute button works
I’d like to hear from Wander Franco…..
Why hasn’t the Players Union ever filed a grievance on behalf of Bauer?
Because they represent the majority not one lone wolf. Bauer is on his own.
Not true. They have filed grievances on behalf of single players before, like Kris Bryant.
It’s pretty telling they haven’t, isn’t it?
The Bryant situation is one that is about all future players. This is entirely different.
He will sue. And he will win. Kapernick 2.0 wait and see.
lmao what a ludicrous comparison. The NFL blackballed Kaepernick because he took a stand against racism by protesting the anthem. Bauer beat up women.
He didn’t beat up anyone you made that up.
He punched an unconscious woman. Not up for debate.
Dude, are you for real? The guy himself said he won’t stop stuff that’s I’m private. I’m sorry that your hero is a vile POS, but get over it and move on. He’s not pitching in MLB ever again.
Even if he sues what does he get out of it? Money? Maybe. To take the field on a Major League mound in an MLB game again? Not going to happen.
Bauer is getting paid to play competitively in Japan, while it’s not MLB it’s something and even he isn’t making that big of a deal over it
What’s he supposed to do pout and whine?
Wait until he’s 40 he will sue and win. And it’s going to be a lot of money might he 200 million. Playing baseball in Japan is nothing like MLB.
Why does that matter when he won’t be able to pitch? What will he prove, that teams are “colluding” against him then?
Because Rob Manfred and the owners never violated the CBA in connection with Bauer. If the Dodgers had attempted to withhold his remaining salary after he was reinstated or something like that then it would be different.
If only he had an interpreter to blame he would still be pitching in the major leagues
Let’s keep this simple: each team is a company and when you hire someone to work at your company you do background checks. Trevor Bauer’s background check is littered with red flags. In this country, that’s the end of story at the highest level as it should be
And yet, he’s still making money playing baseball so I wouldn’t feel too bad for him.
Yeah mate. Mine too. One brief look at his social media history and that resume is straight in the bin.
A legal stoush would be very interesting. Sort of hope it happens.
Not that simple
MLB has a monopoly in America. He has a right to make a living. And his background check isn’t littered with red flags because you can’t deny employment based on public outcry and made up facts.
There are several independent leagues in the US he could play for if he chooses. No one is denying him the right to play baseball or make a living. If I don’t get hired by a company, they’re not denying my right to work.
Was it made up when he harrassed a woman on Twitter for 12 hours for everyone to see?
It’s absolutely that simple. A background check is based on a heck of a whole lot and he has no chance. He’d be done in seconds with most companies outside of baseball, too. You have zero right to work for any company you want. That’s on the hiring company to decide.
Baseball has a monopoly. The rules are different because of that.
He will sue. And he will win. Wait and see.
Dude, he has no “right” to play baseball. He can sue, sure, but what’s he winning? Money? Who cares. He’s not winning himself back into MLB. No team can be forced to hire someone they don’t want to hire. Period.
He has a right to earn a living in his chosen profession.
The rules are different here because MLB has a monopoly on professional baseball in America.
He will sue. He will win. Kapernick 2.0.
BITA.
You are wrong. Playing a sport at any level isn’t a right; it’s a privilege. No one is denying Bauer a right to make a living. There are plenty of other jobs he can do.
He’s a baseball player. MLB is denying him the chance to play baseball. There is no question he’s good enough his Cy Young speaks to that. He has a right to earn a living at his profession.
He will sue. And he will win.
BITA
The article you are responding to concerns Bauer signing a contract to play baseball. Doh!
If he could have sued, he would have sued. Its that simple.
He is earning a living in his chosen profession, just not in MLB. He hasn’t sued and won’t because no lawyer would take that case when they know that he will lose.
Bita/Joel is not the sharpest tool in the shed Kabong.
Bita/Joel sounds like the name of a Persian Billy Joel imitator.
You can’t force a company to hire you.
Every baseball team is a company and they all have their own idea of morality besides what MLB has. Bauer is a PR nightmare and the female fanbase would revolt.
He just isn’t worth the squeeze for the juice.
He will sue and he will lose.
You just aren’t very smart
I have the degree that qualifies me to work for NASA but they are denying me a job and from what you say I can sue NASA and force them to hire me?
Get a life guy…there are people that are qualified in their chosen professions that get denied jobs everyday.
Just a bit of advice…when you find yourself getting deeper in a hole…quit digging.
He hasn’t sued yet because he still wants back in.
Wait and see. He has a slam dunk case.
“Bauer is a PR nightmare and the female fanbase would revolt.”
People said the same thing about the Chiefs’ punter and they’re in the Super Bowl now.
@BITA
You still haven’t posted a link to the MLB investigation that you know so much about. Why is that?
Please show us what you have, Mr. Slam Dunk.
@BITA
“He will sue. And he will win”
If that was the case then it would be in the process of litigation, he’s not suing because no reputable lawyer is going to file that suite and risk sanctions or disbarred. The lawyers Trevor can afford aren’t there only clients with money, and if there were a case he would have darn near every top lawyer wanting that case. I’m sure most lawyers would love to have my client sued the mlb and won in there resume.
Here’s a fact that you seem to keep ignoring: he punched an sodomized an unconscious woman
Already proven he didn’t do that/
Literally considered fact by the courts. So how was it proven he didnt do that. His legal team, while under oath, did not dispute his accuser’s account of the sexual encounters. Ergo, it is considered fact. Go read the judge’s ruling yourself. Notice that under “factual background” it says that he punched and sodomized his accuser while she was unconscious.
Would you think the same if that was your daughter?
@LGM1979 Would you think the same if that was your son being falsely accused?
Good thing no one was falsely accused!
@Eighty Raw Except Bauer
300 Comments
267 comments are hidden because you muted the comment authors
I was right. They came out in droves and I am lucky to have not even seen their posts.
nice surfer. You clearly have even better taste and judgement.
mine reads:
314 Comments
199 comments are hidden because you muted the comment authors
Don’t worry. The “authors” of those comments are getting crushed.
All of barry bondser’s got deleted or he was banned.
Friendly reminder that Bauer is a rapist who admitted to raping multiple women. Having intercourse with an unconscious person is rape. A person who is not conscious cannot consent. Just so we’re all clear.
If he “admitted to raping multiple women” he would be in prison right now. Hope that helps!
So if someone isn’t tried and convicted, they’re innocent? How about OJ?
OJ never “admitted” to anything.
But he was guilty so who cares
A 35year old loser by the time he’s done. Fanboy incels “bur he’s a top 20 pitcher” hasn’t pitched against real competition since 2021. A 73 inning cy young lmao and he’s a top 20 dude. Cry harder he ain’t coming back
“incels” like you know anything about the sex lives of those people lmfao
Gotta love all the ignorant hypocrites. There were NO charges filed by district attorneys, there were no trials, one of the women texted him AFTER he supposedly beat her up. So basically this guys life was ruined by some women ACCUSING him of a crime. I could accuse anyone of anything but unless there’s evidence it’s going to go no further than accusations. He was convicted in the court of public opinion by people who have never been near a law library. Kinky sex with willing women got him suspended and blackballed. Makes no sense. Why does MLB care what kind of sex Trevor and his groupies are into?
He violated the terms of MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy. Criminal charges aren’t needed for the league to take action. It’s all there in the story you didn’t read.
So, he didn’t get charged with anything, but MLB decided he did something wrong. And he gets suspended for having rough sex with willing women. Who decides what sex a man and woman can have? Is it okay if two men have rough sex? I didn’t read this story because I’ve read police reports, his interviews with the police, and probably a thousand stories by real journalists,not people writing for MLB Trade Rumors. Equating the writers on this website to real journalists is like arguing the Three Stooges are real dramatic actors. Try reading some of the legal documents and not forming your opinions from TV news and the National Enquirer.
@Man Who Has the Runs
Please post the MLB investigation documents that you know so much about. That way, everyone can be as well-informed as you.
@El
Exactly. Wander Franco has technically not been criminally charged either, but he violated the league and player union’s policies and therefore will never return to MLB again. Both Franco and Bauer’s situations are well-deserved, charged or not.
Prsr Franco was charged
Ray- They have pictures of Mr Franco cuddling up to said teenager, including pictures of them kissing etc. Because real evidence exists it should be treated differently than he said,she said. Especially when the women in Trevor’s cases recanted their statements.
@Man Who Has The Runs
We’re still waiting for you to post those documents about MLB’s investigation.
El-the investigative reports by law enforcement, the interviews with Trevor Bauer,and with the women are all online. It would be impossible to post 600+ pages of documents on MLB trade rumors. Since there were no charges filed and the women essentially admitted they were after hush money after having consensual relationships with Mr Bauer why would he be suspended by baseball. Couldn’t have anything to do with him criticizing the commissioner and his underlings could it? As for posting documents,sometimes a person must take the initiative to research a subject so that they may form an informed opinion. Or said person can take the word of others and perpetuate a lie or defame someone without cause. Several lawsuits have been won in the past few weeks because “news” people decided to spread lies about someone on air. Of course no one will bother some hack on MLB trade rumors because in the scheme of things this website is kind of the size of a pimple on an elephants ass. But YOU could actually sit down and read/research for yourself instead of asking me to post hundreds or thousands of pages of sworn statements. I have neither the time or enough interest in changing your personal opinions to post anything here when you could find the information online for yourself. You are probably one of those guys that bought term papers online instead of researching and writing them yourself when you were in college.
You claim to have researched the subject but apparently never read Judge Selna’s ruling. The very first section, “Factual Background”, states that Bauer does not dispute the accuser’s account of their sexual encounters. Her account detailed how he punched and sodomized her while unconscious. It’s literally fact that he did that!
I was clearly referring to MLB’s investigation, which found him in violation of his contract. No court cases or documents are needed to discipline an employee who breaks the company’s rules. People get fired for this kind of thing all the time.
You need to keep reading. Read all of the information. Don’t cherry pick from the first page or pages
Court documents have nothing to do with this. He violated the terms of the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse policy. The entire policy can be found easily by googling. He broke the rules he agreed to and was disciplined, just as an employee in other walks of life would.
So, in your mind, anyone can be accused of something and not be charged or even arrested and still be suspended from their job? Or, your employer can investigate your sexual preferences (BDSM-Leather Fetish-Spanking) and if they disagree with your choice of fetish, positions or partners suspend you from your job? That’s a mighty strange place you live in.
People get fired all the time, including for stuff like this. If you violate company policy, the company can let you go. No arrests or court cases are required.
Holy BLEEEEEP! They allowed comments on this. Wow.
Good thing is it allowed a bunch of the worst people in the world to pop their heads up so they can be seen and muted.
He’s never gonna pitch in MLB again.
Never have opinions that go against the dominant zeitgeist, and never have dirty laundry, your fault or not. Then you might have a chance to not have everything you have ever worked for taken from you.
Doesn’t sound like a great way to have to live, but that is how it is. I would not call this freedom.
I’m muting anyone who replies, full disclosure. Not even gonna read it.
This is just hilarious and smug. Reducing r@pe to “dirty laundry” is inane, and just shows this commenter’s true colors, but they’ll never see it!
Bauer didn’t do that.
So you only believe things happen if there is proof presented in court?
No. But it’s honestly odd to see people claim that Bobby Manfred is just sitting on a pile of incriminating evidence against Bauer that he is withholding from the DA.
He doesn’t need to make it a criminal case to issue punishment.
Well… I guess Jerry Jones could have picked ONE person worse that his actual pick to be the new head coach… so my Cowboys got that going for them
I was personally in favor of “Comments Closed” on controversial articles.
Just sharing my thoughts as 300+ did before me. And I would be okay with not, if that was the restriction. Maybe lawyers, or those with actual knowledge could get an exception….
controversial ? it is called life. weak people and people who need to hide their actions believe in “comments closed”
If Mlbtraderumors is going to mention the Arizona complaint they at least should add that it has been discredited to the extent that chargers had been filed against the woman accusing him. Once a guy has a bad rep — and this knucklehead sure put himself out there — it can become one big bad bandwagon.
You’ve got to love all the comments about Bauer, when Bauer has never been found guilty of anything of a criminal nature.
He was unwise, he got involved with a woman who wanted to sting him for money, she personally admitted it on video, but let’s ignore it, MLB have.
Now before the woke start attacking me, I am neither for or against Bauer, you see I believe in the rule of law, Bauer is guilty of nothing, hence he has a passport, he’s never spent a day in jail, and the woman accuser should be the one in jail for trying to get him done for an incident she wilfully involved herself in so she could sting him for money. That’s the USA for you though, trial by media and people who claim others shouldn’t be discriminated against, but it’s ok as far as you are concerned in relation to Bauer. The irony indeed..
Have a very nice day. I look forward to seeing Bauer pitch for Yokohama and the haters can go and have a good cry in the corner. Maaaa, maaaa maaaa.
Does he have to have committed a crime for MLB teams to decide that they don’t want to employ him?
@66TheNumberOfTheBest
Did I assert that anywhere.. Is he being treated like you’d be treated if you got rolling drunk and got charged by police for committing a crime? Not at all.
Do you think it is an even playing field that is being applied to Bauer, and that he is being treated differently to others across a whole range of sports.
Bauer has done far worse things and more often than most of the people you’re talking about.
@Enregistre So you personally saw him do these things?
They have been proven in court and verified by a judge. Why do I have to have seen them?
“you see I believe in the rule of law”
OJ wasnt convicted of murder, incel
OJ was found civilly liable for murder. Bauer wasn’t found civilly liable for anything. You know nothing about Fred’s sex life or lack thereof nor is it particularly relevant here.
OJ was criminally charged. Bauer was not. OJ was found liable in civil court. Bauer was not. HUGE difference lol. HUGE difference.
Some of the people you are referring to as “incels” are literally married with children.
And their wives probably don’t touch them.
Bauer was found liable in civil court and dropped other cases. Wouldn’t that make him guilty in your eyes, since civil cases are damning? And if he dropped cases due to lack of evidence (like his accusers) or precedence, doesn’t that mean he’s guilty just like you’re saying the women are?
@Enregistre Bauer was not found liable in civil court. Ever.
@Enregistre Well that doesn’t make any sense if they have children.
@Enregistre
You have to stop lying, one woman was charged with fraud and extorting money from him-fact. As for Hill, he’s never paid her a dime. Stop telling lies.
“you’re imbecility has no peer,”
*your
Major, major L. Just stop embarrassing yourself, Freddie.
And three of his accusers were charged with crimes, with one pleading guilty to her crime.
You are the thickest person on earth. THIS IS THE DIRECT QUOTE FROM A JUDGE
Bauer’s attorneys also argued the woman’s suit should be thrown out because Gould-Saltman had determined the two sexual encounters were “entirely consensual,” but Selna said that argument was “not supported by the record.”
“Notwithstanding [the woman’s] consent to some form of rough sex,” Selna wrote, “Bauer engaged in acts while [she] was unconscious, when she was physically and legally unable to give consent.”
You just don’t want to believe something about your weird mancrush on Bauer. You are in denial of facts that are on legal record and I will not be gaslit by you into believing that I am the one who is lying or insane. You are telling me I need mental help WHEN I AM TELLING YOU WHAT WAS WRITTEN BY A JUDGE. How asinine of a human are you to tell someone that what I am reading isn’t real?
Start living in reality. You believe only want you want to believe and will deny everything even when it’s in the record of a court.
Did OJ not murder someone too since it wasn’t on tape? Just stop with your udder nonsense and grow up, kiddo,
You must be a troll Fred McGriff, dozens of people have presented actual well articulated and sourced cases here. You say none of them are facts but provide nothing of actual substance and try just sling mud at people who have a brain on their shoulders. Your pride in your purposeful ignorance is mind boggling and shows an utter lack of intelligence, empathy, or integrity. How do you look at yourself in the mirror each day?
I hate to tell you officer Jack, there’s no way you’d be a Captain, Trevor Bauer has never been charged or convicted in any court in the USA of any crime. Yet here you are talking about “ignorance”, “lack of intelligence”, and “mind boggling”. The irony indeed.
It sure is “mind boggling when you and your cohorts can’t face the reality of the fact that Bauer has been charged with absolutely nothing therefore he can’t be convicted of anything, and there’s not a damned thing you or the other posters you are attempting to support can do about it. You’re talking about trolling? The irony is beyond the pale. You can talk about allegations and well articulated all you like, you are to be ignored. Allegations and suppositions are not facts-hence the police have never charged him with ANYTHING. Now run along, you are arrogant beyond belief and highly delusional. One can only hope that you are never on a jury, because you and others like you are a danger to society.
Companies and teams have just as much right to not have him on their team as much as he has to be on them. If a criminal says he’s a criminal in his interviews and nobody hires him, you can’t blame said companies for avoiding the bombshell.
Whether he’s guilty or not, he’s a big D-bag and he sucks personality-wise. Big waste of talent. He’ll do fine in NPB because NPB hitters are a step below MLB hitters, but he’ll never play in MLB again. Sayonara to him.
@Rays in the Bay
“He’s a dirtbag and he sucks personality wise”. You know this how?
Have you met him?
What did he say that triggered you so much? His political views, his views on MLB not doing anything about the Astros at the time he claimed they were cheating. His views on pitchers using spider tack?
Hey Fred. I’m not on dirtbag but here’s two examples of why he is an undesirable employee.
Kenny Rosenthal writes something negative above Trev. Trev idoesn’t like it so makes a scathing, mockery filled video that slams Kenny’s journalistic professionalism. He dedicates every video he makes for a year to Kenny and posts that as the intro every time for a year. Doesn’t have his say and move on. Runs with it for a year.
The logo debacle. Trev gets into merch. Fair enough. He wants to cash in on his sideline success. He is on 40m but whatever. MLB tells him he can’t wear his merch in their press conferences. I imagine it contravenes existing sponsorship agreements. Trev has a public tantrum. Puts a “this is not my logo” sign over his Bauer outage logo and presents at a presser with the attitude of a pissed off 15yo. All over nothing. MLB has him earning plenty and he can promote his merch till the comes come home on his channel. Ridiculous.
He made his bed with MLB.
Nope. Idc about his politics nor his views on MLB. The way he walks and talks is enough for me to know he’s an arrogant D-bag.
@foppert3
Whether his character is good or bad has nothing to do with the case that’s being discussed. Furthermore, how many ‘undesirable’ employees do you believe are employed in the USA?
I am here to discuss the facts of the case, not other things that Bauer may or may not have done.
Barry bondser, is that you?
Blue Jays were finalists for him too…
Bauer got Kaepernicked.
No big deal.
MLB is a private employer, just like the NFL.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Not even a close comparison. Bauer is, and has been good at what he does, Kaepernick not so.
Including being a massive tool, even without the assaults, he was insufferable.
Did Bauer lead his team to a championship game?
Regardless, are you saying that if a person is deemed “good” by public consensus then private employers are obligated to employ them?
@66TheNumberOfTheBest
Show me where I said that. You’re making things up.
No one is obligated to do anything. Bauer has accusations against him, not facts-it cost him his career. You and others like you believe that is fair and consistent, so be it.
Go and have a watch of this and tell me what is fact. There is zero proof he laid a hand on her at all in regard to alleged assault or beating her. Zero evidence.
youtube.com/watch?v=tAs5DCuzdSA
No one is obligated to do anything.
So, what’s the problem?
They don’t want to employ him, so they don’t. He’s free to seek employment elsewhere, and he has.
This is at will employment in a free market.
You don’t think the guy who said “Like the only reason I’d ever consider seeing you again is to choke you unconscious punch you in the face shove my first up your a— skull f—- you and kick you out naked. touched her? lol
@Enregistre
Show some facts or be quiet. The fact is that you can’t, allegations is all you have. As I said, you’re a petulant immature little child.
Pot calling the kettle black. You can’t refute my argument so you resort to calling me names. But here are your facts
sports.yahoo.com/judge-rules-twice-against-trevor-…
“Notwithstanding [the woman’s] consent to some form of rough sex,” Selna wrote, “Bauer engaged in acts while [she] was unconscious, when she was physically and legally unable to give consent.”
That’s the finding of a court. He committed r@pe.
If the court found that he committed r@pe why is he not in prison?
I’ve heard he posts YouTube videos where he uncomfortably hits on his Japanese interpreter. If that’s the case, he’s a pretty unashamed disgusting guy. He’ll never be back in MLB. No team wants that nonsense on their team, especially if they may be on the hook money-wise if he does it again.
Rays in the Bay
You’ve heard….
Who’s his gf? Tell us all about his private life instead of conjecturing. Do you know anything about his agent?
He didn’t play in Japan last season.
Gross
Comments need to remain open here to contain all the Bauer Bros. Hopefully none of them have daughters. or sons
Hopefully you don’t either seeing as if they were accused of a heinous crime you would look them in the eyes and say “I don’t believe you.”
He enjoys beating women.
deepseamonster32
An Arizona woman who accused former major league pitcher Trevor Bauer of se*ual ass*ult has been charged with defrauding the baseball player.
We’re not ignoring them at all. Lindsey Hill, the main accuser who it very active on Twitter and has made no secret of her involvement in the matter, dismissed her lawsuit against Bauer with no money changing hands or admission of wrongdoing and one judge called her allegations “materially misleading.” Another one was literally charged with felony fraud and extortion against Bauer. The other 2 never really got past the “accusation” stage and reading the facts they would both be considered dubious at best. One of them refused to testify in Lindsey Hill’s sexual battery lawsuit and Hill’s legal team actually motioned to have her held in contempt of court so… trouble in paradise?
You’re the one who has gone nuts about “woke” people in this thread. You refuse to believe facts that have been found in court, and I have posted them many times as have others. Here, again, are the findings of the judge: sports.yahoo.com/judge-rules-twice-against-trevor-…
Maybe you’re the one who’s lying and crying lmao
@Enregistre Posting rubbish from Yahoo is not fact, even though you believe it to be so.
Again-Trevor Bauer has been convicted of nothing
Trevor Bauer has been not charged by police.
Trevor Bauer has no civil case judgement against him.
You cannot prove a single thing in relation to alleged assaults, unless you were there or have video to prove otherwise, and you haven’t.
Again, you tell lies for a living, that is a fact.
You can quote all the websites you like, the facts contradict you 100%. You can have a good cry about it.
You are the thickest person on earth. THIS IS THE DIRECT QUOTE FROM A JUDGE
Bauer’s attorneys also argued the woman’s suit should be thrown out because Gould-Saltman had determined the two sexual encounters were “entirely consensual,” but Selna said that argument was “not supported by the record.”
“Notwithstanding [the woman’s] consent to some form of rough sex,” Selna wrote, “Bauer engaged in acts while [she] was unconscious, when she was physically and legally unable to give consent.”
You just don’t want to believe something about your weird mancrush on Bauer. You are in denial of facts that are on legal record and I will not be gaslit by you into believing that I am the one who is lying or insane.
Start living in reality. You believe only want you want to believe and will deny everything even when it’s in the record of a court.
Did OJ not murder someone too since it wasn’t on tape? Just stop with your udder nonsense and grow up, kiddo,
How are you this much of an absolute idiot, Fred? You think you’re smarter than a judge? You don’t respect the law?
How are you so much of an imbecile officer Quack?
Has Bauer been convicted of any crime? No, as he’s never been charged.
Therefore you are arrogant and ignorant. Lawfare is political.
You believe because a Judge made comments about a matter that it is a fact-therefore how has he not been charged with a crime-he hasn’t. You’re talking about intelligence? The irony of such a comment is quite beyond belief, it’s quite hilarious in fact. Again, you are delusional beyond belief. Try and process this, Trevor Bauer has not been charged with any crime. Run along officer Quack. You are a troll.
Lmao, you’re calling me a troll when you’re the one in here simping for some pitcher who can’t get a job because of years of baggage and legal issues? You have a poor understanding of the legal system. Just because someone is not charged with a crime, doesn’t mean they didn’t commit it. And a judge thinks they did with more evidence than you’ll ever see. You just don’t want to believe them because you’re blinded by virginal rage.
Lmao, we should believe some right-wing journalist who has a criminal justice degree but has never worked in law over A JUDGE who has been on the bench for two-plus decades? Btw, that judge was a GOP appointee!
Your bias is showing, Fred! But keep bootlicking for the cops. And keep up with your unhinged spewing calling everyone delusional for not believing your interpretation of reality. The rest of us, who live in ACTUAL reality see how pathetic you actually are. We aren’t crying, because Bauer can’t pitch in MLB! You’re the one here moaning about the libs because of your pent up frustration at never being touched by a woman!
Keep ignoring the other victims, and showing how much you hate women with that dehumanizing language. They’ll never touch you or respect you. Cry in your basement about it and keep the vaseline handy!
You’ve made about 100 comments on this matter, you’re a troll who changes his username regularly.
Furthermore, judges can make all the comments they like and have opinions, that’s all they are, comments and opinions.
You’re obviously having mental difficulties processing facts-Trevor Bauer has not been charged with anything, he has never faced any criminal charges, and he is a free man today. On the contrary there was an attempt by a woman to entrap him so she could gain financially from a professional baseballer.
Now go troll elsewhere, and make sure you take your delusion medication on a more frequent basis.
There’s nothing to believe-it isn’t a judgement or a fact-it is an opinion. You really do have mental problems. Run along, troll.
Keep gaslighting! I have never had a different user name. You have no argument here so you just make things up—what a shock! Conservatives like you only know lies and are scared of the truth like the little snowflakes you are.
But glad to know that about judges. Comments and opinions mean nothing from them! When they sentence someone or throw out a case, like they threw out Bauer’s, it’s all meaningless! Because all you care about is slobbering on Bauer’s knob. Your sick parasocial relationship with someone you’ve never met who ONCE touched some women, which you’ve never done. Sad!
You should try men out. You might have more luck.
Gaslighting? You’re the biggest troll on this site. As I said above, you’ve made about 100 comments on this matter, none have any validity or credibility whatsoever. You speak from your derriere. Trevor Bauer has never been charged with anything by police, he’s not in jail, and all you can do is say “the judge said”. It isn’t a legal ruling, and no one cares about your opinion. You can’t debate facts so you conjecture, that is all you have, cry about it.
Deregistre
Please refrain from bringing politics onto this site because your ridiculous and deluded opinions have no basis in fact, this is a baseball site, not a political forum. But the fact that you sought to do so because you’ve lost this debate says everything about your deluded & delusional opinions which are bordering on psychotic, but that’s probably no surprise. You have zero credibility. Take your anti psychotic medication more regularly because you clearly are having some type of mental breakdown.
“Deregistre” lol nice one! Like you have never brought politics to this site. You post your fascist, homophobic, racist, sexist right-wing diarrhea from your brain on ANYTHING remotely political on this site. Like when MLB took the All Star game away from the Braves. Was that your “mental breakdown?”
Deregistre
You’ve clearly lost this argument, hence you’ve chosen to go to your book of slurs about people and Braves fans.
I didn’t mention anything political at all in this discussion until you brought your patent lunacy and keyboard warrior derangement into this discussion.
Do tell what the ALL Star game has to do with this topic.
I will tell you-zero, nothing at all.
You are quite unhinged, and you really should seek professional psychological help for your no doubt profound and patent delusions and mental illnesses which you’ve brought onto this page for all to see.
I hope you will recover in due course with psychological evaluation and treatment.
Last but not least, Trevor Bauer has never been charged with any crime, and of course never convicted of any crime because he’s never been charged. You have lost the plot. Facts don’t care about your feelings, go tell your delusions to your cohort of the deluded.
I think his problem is he likes to copy or do stupid stuff he’s seem on chaturbate. Now if you’re going to do this stupid stuff you have to be dedicated to the woman that he was using or they feel used and hence the charges and airing of dirty laundry.
He’s not banned, just more headache than he’s worth.
No clue why a team won’t give him a chance to prove himself in MLB?! All the BS appears to be in his past – time to move on – there is no excuse or reason why he won’t to in Spring Training this season!
It’s true, you are clueless indeed.
Is that all you have, Fred?
Why did you mention the Arizona accuser but not mention that she was indicted for felony fraud and extortion against Bauer? Context matters.
Mike Foltynewicz and Derek Norris didn’t get second chances either.
Also no mention of him currently suing L. H. for breach of settlement.
when you can get one of the most respected managers in baseball Terry Francona to shout out loud enough to be heard “What the {bleep} is wrong with you? It pretty much summarizes who you are dealing with.
Add that to all the other odd behavior; along with the negative media fallout that would occur, and no MLB team wants this headache.
The Chiefs signed a dude who was (falsely) accused of such a heinous crime and now they are in the Super Bowl because of it. Be like the Chiefs.
Everyone hates the Chiefs so that’s terrible advice. Winning doesn’t matter unless you can sell merch. The MLB way. And MLB teams yet don’t have a Taylor Swift to bump up their sales (or winning odds in a fixed league)
Why do y’all hate Bauer so much but glaze Jose Fernandez?
Because he’s dead… my goodness.
And who’s fault is that?
This is completely irrelevant.
Lmao at most of Fred McGriff HR’s comments getting removed because he is peddling misinformation
Don’t punch girls in the face.