The Yokohama DeNA BayStars of Nippon Professonal Baseball have agreed to a deal with right-hander Trevor Bauer, according to multiple reports out of Japan (including from Nikkan Sports). The BayStars are expected to soon officially announce the signing.
It will mark Bauer’s second season in NPB and second with the BayStars, after posting a 2.76 ERA over 130 2/3 innings with Yokohama in 2023. In between his two stints in Japan, Bauer pitched with Diablos Rojos del Mexico in 2024, delivering a 2.48 ERA over 83 1/3 frames. He signed with the Mexican League club after first exploring the possibility of a return to the majors, as his representatives spoke with some unnamed MLB teams in November 2023.
Bauer pitched in parts of 10 Major League seasons from 2012-21 with the Diamondbacks, Guardians, Reds, and Dodgers, averaging 181 innings per season from 2014-19. In the pandemic-shortened 2020 season, Bauer won the NL Cy Young Award after posting a 1.73 ERA over 73 innings with Cincinnati. Bauer then signed a three-year, $102MM free agent contract with the Dodgers during the 2020-21 offseason, but this tenure in Los Angeles ended after three months and 107 2/3 innings when he was placed on administrative leave pending a league investigation.
That summer, a woman accused Bauer of sexual assault and filed a restraining order against him in California. Two other women in Ohio later came forward with similar accusations. In August 2021, a California judge denied the restraining order request, and the Los Angeles district attorney’s office later declined to pursue criminal charges. As per a statement from the DA’s office, “after a thorough review of the available evidence, including the civil restraining order proceedings, witness statements and the physical evidence, the People are unable to prove the relevant charges beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Because the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy doesn’t require criminal charges for the league to take action, Bauer was issued a 324-game suspension (the equivalent of two full seasons) in April 2022. This record-long suspension was later reduced to 192 games in December 2022 after Bauer appealed the ruling, and the Dodgers released him the next month and ate the $22.5MM remaining on his contract. Also in 2023, Bauer and his first accuser settled their mutual lawsuits out of court, and another woman reportedly filed a civil action against Bauer accusing him of a sexual assault that took place in Arizona in 2020.
King Floch
Inb4 “COMMENTS CLOSED”
MLB Top 100 Commenter
MLB gets Sasaki. NPB gets Bauer. I would say the U.S. won.
kscheer
I’ll bet Sasaki doesn’t touch Bauers ceiling.
paddyo furnichuh
Most would want to use a blacklight before they touch any ceiling or wall where Bauer resides.
There’s a a good chance you’ll be a person of interest if you’re leaving prints where the “on the spectrum” former MLB pitcher resides.
st1300b 2
Seriously his situation is not different from hundreds of other ball players- the Bull Durham behavior isn’t a long stretch so insult the industry at large if you want don’t troll the man.
gbs42
stl,
You think there are “hundreds of other ball players” like Bauer? His actions have been far beyond “Bull Durham behavior.” He’s the only troll in this situation.
towinagain
Pretty sure Bauer may never return to MLB.
Jbigz12
His skills are only going to decline. If no one has rolled the dice yet I doubt they ever will.
He’d obviously be an upgrade for nearly any rotation outside of LAD.
WadeBoggsWildRide
Him claiming he learned the Roger Beshens Football Slider all by himself is the real reason his life has fallen apart. If only he would come clean I’m sure the league would welcome him back. Women would also stop coming out of the woodwork claiming assault. His deceptive ways have really hurt him. Roger Beshens does not play around.
Rsox
Will be 34 and hasn’t faced MLB caliber hitters in what will be at least 4 years. Odds are very good Bauer never gets on an MLB mound again
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Rsox
How many years did any of the Japanese imports play in the mlb before coming over? As long as he has the stuff, he’ll be fine. It’s kind of hard to judge, but setting as how the courts declined to press charges and choose to refund a seemingly benign restraining order, I think Bauer deserves a 2nd chance. I have a buddy who was accused of take by his them GF. The dude couldn’t come up with the money to post bail, and I was really young at the time and couldn’t help. He was in county for 2 months before his mom was able to get him out. He somehow met up with his now ex and wore a take recorder. She apologized for lying to the cops because she was angry at him for some stupid reason. Thank God he was able to bring it to the police and they dropped all charges. I know that playing in the mlb is a privilege, not a right, but it just feels wrong to ban him for something that appears to have been false.
kidbryant
It wasn’t false. He settled with the woman out of court … I e. He paid her off.
Salzilla
Knicks, He did all those things. Court couldn’t find any evidence it wasn’t consensual. It was still vile AF, and he’s even admitted he won’t stop. No one is signing him and no one is going to bat for someone of his character.
Rsox
The moral hill to die on that is signing Trevor Bauer is too steep for any MLB GM/owner to climb. He’ll finish his career internationally as long as team’s will sign him. Hopefully for his sake he’s smart enough not to repeat the same mistakes on foreign soil…
outinleftfield
MLB found Bauer guilty of breaking the domestic violence policy. Then when he appealed an independent arbitrator, a former judge, found him guilty as well.
MLB doesn’t need a conviction in a court to suspend someone and teams do not have to allow him to play on their teams if they feel he would not be worth the risk.
Considering Bauer has straight up said he will continue to violate that rule because he feels its his private life, he will never get another chance. He needs to apologize and promise never to do it again before anyone will even consider it and even then it’s not a good chance he gets signed. Too much baggage.
st1300b 2
Still hits 98 and has 5 pitches he throws for strikes. He can get mlb hitters out.
st1300b 2
As do many court cases watch the evidence against her first
Fever Pitch Guy
kid – Please stop with the false statements.
He sued her first.
Then she countersued him.
They mutually settled each lawsuit with both stating neither had paid anything to the other.
Here’s one of many sources:
latimes.com/sports/story/2024-10-14/trevor-bauer-l…
Fever Pitch Guy
Sal – I always prefer to focus on the big picture.
The big picture is Bauer was considered to be a major jerk long before any DV accusations surfaced.
As a result MLB blackballed him, plain and simple …. just like they did to Canseco and others in the past.
Whether he deserved to be blackballed, everyone has their own opinion. But MLB does have the right to do so.
This happens ALL THE TIME in the corporate world. You could be the best in the world at your job, but if you piss off the wrong people (ie: management, owner, etc) then you are gone and you are never coming back.
It’s called “At Will Employment” …. you can get fired any time for any reason, or even for no reason, as long as it’s not due to discrimination based on gender, race, religion etc.
There are no labor law protections for jerks.
Golfinho1
He cut his finger playing with his toy drones and couldn’t pitch in crucial playoff games for the (then) Indians, costing his team possibly a championship. Bauer was a known a-hole before his other garbage came to light.
Salzilla
Fever, absolutely he had already amassed a litany of reasons why MLB wouldn’t want him in the league, but none of them were viable reasonsto actuallydo so. Bauer made his own bed with these acts regardless of how the legal process went. He did them, he did not shy away from that. Those are actionable offenses per MLB rules, and the fact that there were multiple accusers was the nail in the coffin. He’s more than a jerk, as I said hes a vile POS. Period.
Fever Pitch Guy
Sal – I didn’t even mention what he did or the suspension that came with it.
The topic is now that he’s served his suspension and MLB has stated he’s free to sign with any MLB team, should he be playing in the majors again?
And my point is if MLB wants to blackball him, they have that right.
Salzilla
But even if there was no mandated blackballing, who in their right mind would sign him? I said this somewhere below, but teams are companies and even beyond what is completely obvious, he wouldn’t survive an official background check.
So IMO he absolutely should not.
Fever Pitch Guy
Sal – I disagree on the background check. Those search for only criminal backgrounds.
He didn’t get convicted of anything, in fact he was never even charged with a crime. Yes he violated MLB’s policy, but background checks don’t turn up violations of prior employer policies. In fact for legal reasons most former employers don’t reveal the reason for the former employee’s departure.
In the corporate world he’d have no problem getting another similar job. She, on the other hand, was charged with a felony.
Salzilla
A background check these days looks at much more than criminality. A heck of a lot of companies looks at your socials when hiring. So even if we knew nothing of Bauer, a lot of red flags would turn up. There’s too many reasons not to hire Bauer.
Fever Pitch Guy
Sal – That’s different, I don’t use social media so I’d be safe ;O)
tigerdoc616
Age 34 currently. Guys his age without his baggage have trouble getting contracts. Never say never but seems unlikely any team will want to take the PR hit to sign him.
TheBoatmen
I remember drafting him in fantasy when he was in A ball. You ever look back and just think “man I’m old”
meckert
Pretty sure?
O'sSayCanYouSee
Omg…wait, wait…are Comments open because of the new Chief Executive?! Tim??
gbs42
O’s,
No.
Fever Pitch Guy
O’s – 14 months ago there was a Bauer article here with over 600 comments.
Please stop falsely accusing Tim.
O'sSayCanYouSee
FPG — Good on ya’. Thanks.
LFGSD619
Surprised they allowed them to be open at all.
Dustyslambchops23
Comment section will be fun on this one
THEHOUSETHATMOSEBYBUILT
“So, not coming to Toronto then..?”
gbs42
178iq,
Not even close. He’s been above average in two foreign leagues the last couple of years, nothing especially interesting, and that’s before considering his personality issues.
bkbk
Lol, this is factually not true and seen in the article. He’s been elite and is strictly not being given a look because of baggae.
websoulsurfer
GBS, he was below average in the NPB. Ranked 90th in a league with just 12 teams.
websoulsurfer
He had a 4.51 ERA in MLB when not admittedly cheating. He had a 2.76 ERA in Japan which ranked 90th in a 12-team league.
None of that is elite. It’s not even average.
Van Lingle Mungo
He’s 34 and hasn’t pitched in MLB for 4 seasons.
DeusSexMachina
3 seasons, not that it matters much.
Van Lingle Mungo
Fair enough. 3 seasons.
O'sSayCanYouSee
Someone left the comments on…yikes
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Trying to sneak this in while Chiefs-Bills is going on
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
I hate that the chiefs one at this point they are exactly like the patriots with GOAT QB and TE and head coach
I’m shocked comments are still open since at least 1/3rd of this site wants Bauer back on their team which is scary
LogicLeftOnBase
Yeah, strange the comments aren’t closed for this one. Finally moving on i guess???
O'sSayCanYouSee
…or, is it because of the new guy in office??
gbs42
O’s,
Why would you even think this?
O'sSayCanYouSee
gbs42 — I’d elaborate, but, if it ain’t that, it ain’t that. And I’m good with it. Wasn’t trying to be all rabbit-hole-ish.
LogicLeftOnBase
Who knows? An interesting change of stance from the site. Comments should be interesting.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Why would it have anything to do with Trump? What’s the connection ? (Okay I know they have various things in common, but otherwise What’s the connection?) I wouldn’t be surprised if he forced one of his billionaire buddies who owns a team to go ahead and sign him.
YankeesBleacherCreature
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Apparently that is not the case a good portion of users here.
billysbballz
This doesn’t make sense? He was never convicted of anything and players who were accused of doing worse were unfortunately not banned but this guy accused but never found guilty of any of the accusations and still no teams are giving him a shot? Regardless of what information we do not know of he was never found guilty of any crimes other than he said she said and he’s black balled? MLB puts a hit on a guy and every teams falls in line. There must be something crazy in his jacket that doesn’t warrant criminal charges other than his hurtful Twitter comments?
Enregistre
He’s an a-hole, that’s why
twentyfivemanroster
Let’s see. AJ Pierzynski was an a-hole. Jose Bautista was a HUGE a-hole. Milton Bradley was an a-hole. These men had plenty of offers. Your logic make no sense.
Enregistre
None of those guys had multiple allegations of sexual misconduct from multiple women as far as I know
JackStrawb
AJ all by himself sinks that YT channel.
Darth Alru
Allegations mean nothing, and they have been proven false.
Enregistre
Not filing charges ≠ being proven false.
WadeBoggsWildRide
What about the pedo on the hall of fame ballot?
Jaysfansince92
What in your mind lumps Bautista in with those other guys? You seem to specifically dislike him so nice he was the only one you added huge to?
wallabeechamp
In multiple states!
Poolhalljunkies
Does it matter there were more than 1? ..1 should be enough..
foppert3
Ha ha. Definitely the weak link. Watchable though.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
There is a difference between being an a-hole and being hated
Bradley was a class A of the hole but Pierzynski was just hated if he had a bad personality he wouldn’t be broadcasting for fox now
Dumpster Divin Theo
AJ’s the wrestling heel and leans into it, even appearing on a WWE broadcast in character. But he’s actually very fan accessible, graciously signing stuff and going out of his way on social media to interact with fans, consistently praising and reposting pictures of fans wearing his jersey. Think it’s a classic case of a Rodman type, you despise him if he’s an opponent, you adore him (or is Ozzie put it, hate him less) if he’s one of yours.
Bart Harley Jarvis
The guy couldn’t stay away from people’s tailpipes.
Fred McGriff HR
@Enregistre
So ‘allegations’ are facts, are they?
Have you watched the video where the woman who claimed to have been assaulted acknowledged she was setting him up for a payday for her. I love it when people ignore facts but believe allegations. You must be part of that movement whatever it’s called…
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@Poolhalljunkies
Should it, when she was proven to be a liar and was setting Bauer up for a payday.
He’s a fool, but you should go and watch her interview before letting the guillotine drop, like so many others here who do trial by media and allegations. If any of it were true he’d be in the can, he isn’t.
Poolhalljunkies
Fred…I think the point here is the fact that there are allegations should and would give any prospective employer in any line of work pause before trusting this guy when there are so many other viable candidates with none of these potential problems already cropping up…that is why he is not in mlb ..hes simply not good enough to outweigh the possible problems he brings with him its that simple
Drasco0366
Enregistre,
The fact is both women who accused Bauer were known extortionist/black mailers. Bauer was never charged with a crime AND not only was he never charged, she withdrew her civil case, where it only had to be proven Bauer was more likely than not to have committed the alleged crimes to receive compensation. She withdrew her case on the advice of her lawyer who knew it was not winnable… ie she was lying.
MLB suspending him for as long as they did was because Manfred hated Bauer and was looking for a reason. Manfred hated Bauer because he was outspoken on MLBs hypocrisy, he shined a light on Astros cheating long before it came to the surface. He complained about spider tack and made it known that since mlb refused to enforce cheating, he was going to start which lead him to winning the cy young in 2020.
Lucky for Manfred, fans such as yourself, took the bait and ran with it hook line and sinker.
The other fact is, Bauer revolutionized pitching. Those sticks that Cole complained about in college, nearly ever pitcher uses now. Same with all his warm up gear. “Pitch labs” that all MLB teams use, yeah, that was another complaint about Bauer. Him using pitch labs on his own during the offseason. The horror! Having your own pitching coach, yep, Bauer.
Bauer was hated because he was different and on the spectrum
yocuz444
But you can name guys like Fanilia, Herrera, Dotel and more that were actually convicted in criminal court and allowed back on the field by the MLB and teams took a chance or played a contract out. Case in point Herrera and Familia. So, there’s not a consistent stance from the league and teams. I wish there was. If the allegations, claims or involvement for a player is a problem then be consistent across the board. Especially in cases of proven and admitted guilt. SA, AA and DV have no place in society and every day people know that and pay the price for that if they violate it and they should. Players should be no different but the league can’t pick and choose. Until they get consistent, I can’t oppose Bauer from trying to get back in the league and I will question teams for not signing him when they opened the door before on other situations.
Eighty Raw
“I love it when people ignore facts”
Oh like how you ignore how, according to the courts, it is literally fact that Bauer punched and sodomized an unconscious woman? His legal team did not dispute this part of the allegations.
Eighty Raw
“MLB suspending him for as long as they did was because Manfred hated Bauer and was looking for a reason”
So that’s why an independent arbitrator also found him deserving of the longest suspension ever for violating the joint domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse policy? Odd
Drasco0366
The independent auditor reinstated him immediately didn’t he…. Odd.
Drasco0366
Is that a fact? I don’t have the court transcripts in front of me. It’s weird that if that were factual, the woman dropped her suit…. Odd
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@Eighty Raw
Go and watch the video where she is in his bed and he’s asleep, take a good look at her face….
You’ve ignored all the facts.
Enregistre
Oh god, not McGriff again. How about the other women who came forward? How about the patterns of harassment towards women for years and years? How about his admission that he wouldn’t change his repugnant behavior? Those too are facts.
Enregistre
“The fact is both women who accused Bauer were known extortionist/black mailers. Bauer was never charged with a crime AND not only was he never charged, she withdrew her civil case, where it only had to be proven Bauer was more likely than not to have committed the alleged crimes to receive compensation. She withdrew her case on the advice of her lawyer who knew it was not winnable… ie she was lying.”
All of these have been roundly disproven by others in this thread. But ok, you have your own alternative facts.
Lots of people on the spectrum don’t r@pe women.
His Cy was in a shortened season.
WadeBoggsWildRide
Enregistre summed it up in less words than I can. Hit the nail right on the head. I might be getting a little punch drunk but I have to agree.
WadeBoggsWildRide
Really took a bite out of the neck of that comment section. Way to go!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Billy
It’s bad PR to sign a guy who chokes so much
O'sSayCanYouSee
^ wins!
luckyh
Couldn’t have said it better.
WadeBoggsWildRide
Reading that comment made me choke up.
rhandome
…damn
JackStrawb
@billysbballz “There must be something crazy in his jacket…”
That’s not necessarily the case.
This can all be credibly explained just from teams not wanting to get involved in a public relations struggle for one player whose record of prudence outside of what he’s been accused of and history of general verbal indiscretion of the kind teams prefer not to deal with, is not particularly good or reliable.
Do, say, the Giants really want to sign an aging starting pitcher who hasn’t faced MLB hitters in years only to watch him getting into an altercation—however justified—on social media? That’s the kind of things teams live to avoid.
dpsmith22
He is a jerk.
However the hypocrisy of the mlb shines bright here. how many latin players have been
accused of worse things and are still in the league?
Enregistre
No one is saying those players should be in the league either
dpsmith22
mlb is and that’s the whole point.
st1300b 2
Again stop with the jerk comment. You don’t know him. The rest is accurate.
tigerdoc616
His actions violated the personal conduct policy of MLB. They do their own investigations and criminal or civil proceedings or lack there of are not relevant.
Hannibal8us
I mean it’s a completely different bar to clear for the courts to find him guilty in a court of law and a league deciding the pros don’t outweigh the cons. Bauer just isn’t worth the headache.
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tigerdoc616
I agree, you nailed it, opinions of woke MLB, not facts. End of story.
foppert3
He used to hammer mlb on his YouTube channel. You hammer the boss publicly, the boss is getting rid of you the first opportunity you give him. Two big dogs went at it and Trev came out a loser. In terms of his career, he picked a fight with the wrong guy. Unlucky.
Hope his is doing ok. Last time I saw him he looked like had just eaten a sheep !
Jean Matrac
billysbballz
“…this guy accused but never found guilty of any of the accusations and still no teams are giving him a shot?”
That should tell you all you need to know. Teams had access to the police and MLB investigations, and none of them want anything to do with him. I have no idea whether he’s guilty or not, but obviously MLB teams have a decided opinion on that.
Just because a DA doesn’t feel like a conviction is a slam dunk, which are the types of cases the pursue, doesn’t mean he’s innocent of the charges. It should also tell you something, when team are willing to look past bad behavior by some players, but aren’t willing to in Bauers’ case.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Jean Matrac I don’t disagree with you and I have no dog in the fight. Even after Bauer was cleared from criminal charges, he still had at least one pending civil suit against him. More women could come out of the woodworks with their own separation allegations. No team wants that potential bad PR with a player they’ve chosen to employ. Whether he’s liable or not, it’s terrible optics for any team which chooses to employ him.
Even if there is a MLB team which wants to sign him, the MLBPA may not want him back.
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@ Jean Matrac
I have to laugh at some of the Bauer haters on here and also MLB, all part of the ‘Metoo’ movement quite patently.
youtube.com/watch?v=tAs5DCuzdSA
Eighty Raw
He punched and sodomized an unconscious woman (his legal team did not object these claims in court and they were entered into the record as fact), but refuses to take any sort of responsibility.
kidbryant
He wasn’t convicted because they settled out of court with him paying her hush money. He he was innocent, he wouldnt have paid her off.
Kevin Illyanovich Rasputin Kubusheskie
Yeah, he’s a saint just like julio urias, wander franco, felipe vasquez, want them on your team also?
terrymesmer
Shut up, ignorant child.
Blue Baron
Headline should be:
PERV PITCHER PROCURES PACT.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Or Bauer added to “Megan’s Top 100 Prospects”?
highflyballintorightfield
Trevor Bauer throws the Roger Beshens Football Slider.
WadeBoggsWildRide
He does. He just claims it is his own original pitch. The curse of Beshens bites hard.
Blue Baron
What’s the big whoop about that and why do people keep talking about it?
BaseballBrian
Make NPB Great Again.
websoulsurfer
Time to close the comments before the incels come out in force.
BuyBuyMets
Undatable feminists use “incel.”
What’s your excuse?
Bart Harley Jarvis
@BuyButMets,
I’m guessing you responded because this hit a bit too close to home, and that’s unfortunate. Wouldn’t it be better if you incel guys and these undateable feminists could somehow get together and work things out? Come on, give it a try!
Suitcase Simpson
he had a 2.48 ERA in mexico? haha bum
Enregistre
We found him, guys
em650r
Well at least he still gets a chance to still play.
SamMarlin
Trevor Bauer must be truthful with himself and acknowledge that in May 2018 he received guidance from Roger Beshens on how to throw the Roger Beshens Football Slider. Roger Beshens frequently shares those messages on Twitter. Instead Bauer explained to Al Leiter and Pedro at the 2018 All Star game that he learned how to throw that pitch on his own. That’s known as karma. Bauer faced the consequences of his actions.
Perhaps Al passed some of that karma on to his son.
Luke Strong
I think every MLB team had to have been in some sort of agreement to shut him out, because, if not, there’s no reasonable explanation for not signing him – baseball has always been and always will be played for money, it’s just ridiculous what happened to Bauer and all the hate he gets. The man got a raw deal, he’s not guilty of any crimes, and he’s an absolute pro of a pitcher in the prime of his career, he’d be one of the top starters in the league. I watch his YT, he posts a lot of baseball content, you can see exactly how incredibly talented he is and confident in his abilities.
Enregistre
Sure there’s a reasonable explanation: he’s a jerk.
Old York
@Enregistre
Do you personally know him? Should I assume, based on how you post here, that you’re also a jerk?
Enregistre
I’m a jerk because I don’t like him or because my political opinions don’t align with yours? I don’t get it. He’s been a jerk for many years and he’s laid it all out there on his twitter to see.
Old York
@Enregistre
I’m just using your same logic. I can’t make judgement because I don’t know the guy.
Enregistre
Since when can you only determine someone is a jerk if you know them personally?
Enregistre
You’re the only one here making this political. I’ve said zero about politics and you’re just trying to guide this in some direction instead of talking about baseball.
Old York
@Enregistre
Becaue that’s part of judging them by their character. If I don’t know their character, how do I know how to properly judge them. I generally hold my opinion on many people that I have never met. Social media has blown everything up, making everyone seem to have an opinion on someone, despite never even meeting them. Betts has said Bauer is an awesome guy. He’s played with him so should I assume that Betts is also a jerk?
Non Roster Invitee
See that guy over there? He looks so judgemental.
Enregistre
Look at this virtue signaling by Old York!
Old York
@Enregistre
How so? What’s the point of judging before I know the person?
Sourhaze
Bauer hasn’t pitched since 2021 and people in here calling him a top 20 pitcher lmao. Pitching in freaking Japan and Mexico because no one wants his rapey abusive as$. Hahaha
One year older. Soon to be 35. Farther and farther from a mlb career and me with popcorn enjoying it all burn down for him
Enregistre
Sounds like you’re judging Bauer as innocent, but somehow, I doubt you know him.
You can judge bad people when they do bad things. It’s ok. You can judge the N@zis, no one will hold it against you.
foppert3
Bauer gave everyone access to his character, and I was only watching the videos. We aren’t talking about a careful, reserved man when it comes to putting himself out there. Not much guessing involved when it comes to Trevor’s opinions.
outinleftfield
Old York, watch his YouTube channel.
Luke Strong
Is he though? You know him personally? I watch his channel, seems like a highly competitive man to me.
Enregistre
I’ve seen him harass women from his for long enough to know he’s a jerk.
Luke Strong
Enregistre Talking right out your behind. You’re embarrassing yourself. You don’t know anything about any of this. Admit it.
Enregistre
Hey look it’s barrybondsers burner!
WadeBoggsWildRide
His teammates, pretty much all of them, also say he is a jerk.
foppert3
I used to watch his channel. He is a competitor. But a very disrespectful one. I’ve said this often, his channel is a tragedy. Started out so good in terms of content. The pitching science knowledge he shared was outstanding. Then he just got carried away with himself and the success and the attacks came in. He has said it himself. He regrets the turn it took.
bwmiller79
The kid is fighting for his life and everything he has ever believed in, his dreams and his love of the game of baseball.
I applaud him for not giving up.
He has been slandered and tarnished and some may say rightfully so but there is a good possibility that the entirety of his dilemma is an attack on him, his heart and his spirit, and not the other way around.
There is a good possibility that it is his heart and spirit that is the good in the world, and those who work to destroy it work against that good. I for one believe in him and his fight and hope he has a good season in Japan.
Enregistre
Imagine applauding someone for not giving up and saying that his heart and spirit that is the good in the world who said “the only reason I’d ever consider seeing you again is to choke you unconscious punch you in the face shove my first up your a— skull f—- you and kick you out naked.”
bwmiller79
You are reporting what is certainly a very dramatized response to a situation that you have no real clue about. Immaturity rears it’s ugly head often in this life, what is said can’t be unsaid but it is often over reaching and not exactly the truth but an exaggeration of the truth. In so many ways this is learned behavior from the movies we watch and the media reports we read, how they become acceptable in a way, and then you are held to be accountable for these learned dramatics and what is a learned manner of communication.
It’s sad because it’s going on all over the world in similar ways in many people’s lives as a result of a spirit that wishes to destroy the good in people.
Enregistre
lol bwmiller79 muted me after this. That text was admitted to the court as fact. But he has more clue about this than me? Then tries to excuse it by blaming movies?
outinleftfield
Luke, you are revealing yourself. Bauer’s burner?
Luke Strong
Let go of your prejudices. They are baseless. You can’t say it with any conviction because you don’t know him.
Enregistre
You don’t need to know someone to know they’re a jerk. How is it prejudiced to say that someone who tweeted back at a woman who called him her “least favorite person in all of sports” for 12 hours and getting his followers to dogpile on her too is a jerk?
namarino41
How does that disqualify him from playing in the MLB?
Luke Strong
That’s why you think he’s a jerk? That’s ridiculous.
Enregistre
If you don’t think that’s being a jerk, nor do you think all the allegations make him a jerk, you have very poor judge of character.
namarino41
You’ll have to explain how Manny Machado is still in the league.
Enregistre
He’s never had anything off-field remotely close to Bauer. Don’t be obtuse.
Jaysfansince92
To be fair, there’s been a ton of jerks in baseball that never got blacklisted.
Enregistre
There’s a difference between being a jerk on the field like Machado, Josh Donaldson, etc. and doing what he did off it, surely you can notice that.
Old York
@Jaysfansince92
Like who? I don’t think there have been any. I think you’re seeing the competitive nature of these athletes and you’re not a fan of this behaviour. Understandable bias but not really an example of jerks.
dpsmith22
yes he is blackballed. obviously.
IronBallsMcGinty
I’ve heard some of Trevor’s rap album. Confident, sure. Talent, absolutely zero.
It’s definitely cringe worthy though.
stymeedone
Or it could be 30 MLB teams independently made their own decision. In my worklife, I have had several jobs. It has not been unusual for me to apply to over 30 to get an offer, and some I haven’t accepted. So sorry he didn’t pass muster.
Luke Strong
Stymee This is one of your worst takes ever. I don’t think anyone is making the argument he’s not talented enough to play. He’s a top level pitcher, the man won a Cy Young.
El Kabong
@LukeStrong
On the subject of bad takes:
You keep saying Bauer got a “raw deal” even though you have no idea what turned up in MLB’s investigation. And you know an independent arbiter upheld the suspension.
Instead of making baseless claims about information you’re not privy to, wouldn’t it be better to keep quiet on the subject?
Eighty Raw
He punched and sodomized an unconscious woman. He (via his legal team) did not dispute this in court.
outinleftfield
He broke the domestic violence policy, was found guilty by MLB and was suspended, then he appealed the suspension and a former judge who was the arbitrator found him guilty again, and he continues to say if signed that he will violate that policy again. What incentive do MLB teams have to sign him? Its not like he was a great pitcher. He came out on his social media and said that the only time he was good was when he was using sticky substances. Even showed how he got around the rules against it. He is an unrepentant violator of MLB rules and not a good pitcher unless he is cheating.
terrymesmer
Bauer is a proud pervert who hurts people to get aroused..
TribeFan88
Surprised Bauer hasn’t been able to return to Major League Baseball yet. Hopefully he continues to pitch well in Japan in 2025 and that opens up a big league shot for him
Old York
@TribeFan88
I think he’s done in the MLB. If teams aren’t willing to sign him when he’s in his low-30s, I doubt they want a 35+ year old starter signed.
websoulsurfer
Hopefully we never have to see him in MLB again.
Just for comparisons sake, the last time he played in the NPB he had a 2.76 ERA that ranked 90th among starting pitchers in NPB as a whole and 47th in the Japan Central League. With just 12 teams in NPB that means he was a back of the rotation starter in Japan. A #6 starter. Does that sound like an MLB quality pitcher to you?
Jbigz12
Can you tell me what Shota Imanaga’s 2023 ERA was?
Can you then tell me Trevor Bauer’s?
That’s a disingenuous lie again from you. You’re including relievers and basing your ranking based on ERA.
Jbigz12
baseball-reference.com/register/leader.cgi?type=pi…
If anyone is interested to see where he pulled his BS.
websoulsurfer
Ok Ryan. Whatever you say Ryan.
Sort by ERA. 47th. In a 6-team division. So where did I lie Ryan?
I posted the facts. You don’t like facts Ryan. You have proven that over the years.
Just admit that you are Ryan. We all already know it.
Jbigz12
lol That’s 47th in ERA if you count relievers.
Tell me where Dylan Cease ranks in ERA when you include relievers with no minimum IP threshold.
websoulsurfer
Ok Ryan. Say hello to my little friend. This Ryan account joins the other Ryan accounts.
Jbigz12
Tomoyuki Sugano put up worse numbers and he’s now being paid $13MM to pitch in a big league rotation.
Ryan loved Bauer like he could do no wrong. Which is weird. You hate Bauer and feel the need to put a spin on his on field performance. When you just don’t like or agree with him personally.
I think Bauer is a narcissist who has cost himself 100’s of millions. Thinks he’s the smartest man in the room all the time.
With all that being said—I’m not going to deny that he’s clearly been capable of being a major league starter over the last few years.
tigerdoc616
If his NPB performance hasn’t got him a shot so far, nothing he can do this year will likely change that. 34 and getting older, a public relations nightmare and just a plain jerk isn’t something teams are looking to sign.
terrymesmer
Are you ignorant or just horrible?
NYCityRiddler
Listen, it’s not collusion it’s cancer, nobody wants him around, owners, managers, players, nobody!
His MLB career is over, o. v. e. r. OVER!! Ahahahahaha!
Old York
@NYCityRiddler
Mine is over too. No one wants an old man.
NYCityRiddler
@Old York
You’re the man, you’re one of the few people on here who is worth reading. Keep the faith pal & go Yanks! Ahahaha!
Ranger Danger19
He made his bed long before the lawsuits started rolling in.
Old York
Good to see him back with the Baystars. Not going to be fun having him pitch against my Giants but I’m glad he gets to play again.
Smacky
Have a least favorite Japanese team now.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #BannedForBeingABaseballExpertAGAIN)
Chapman, Urias, German, Russell, Reyes, etc. all got second chances. Bauer and Steven Wright did not. Bauer was found not guilty. The MLB clearly has an agenda
websoulsurfer
Urias is out of baseball.
Now for Bauer. Start with baseball skills only.
He had a 4.51 ERA in MLB when not cheating with sticky stuff. We know EXACTLY when he was cheating because he told everyone when he had cheated on his YouTube videos.
2.76 ERA in NPB. That ranked 90th in the 12 team NPB as a whole and 47th in a 6 team Central league.
He is NOT a good pitcher.
Now for the rest.
Bauer and his attorney admitted to beating women to get his rocks off. He said it was consensual, and it might have been. When FOUR women come out about it, it’s likely not, but let’s go with while sick, its consensual.
It’s STILL against the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence policy. He agreed to live by those rules when he signed his contract, and it is against those rules.
He was convicted twice of violating that policy on 3 counts, all with different women. Once by MLB and one by an independent arbitrator when he appealed the suspension.
Bauer has said repeatedly that he is not willing to stop the behavior that got him suspended. That it is private. That may be, but it’s still against MLB policy. to play in MLB you have to agree to abide by that policy and he has said repeatedly that he has no intention of doing so.
Why would any team take a chance on him doing it again and getting suspended again even if he was a good pitcher? We have determined already that he is NOT a good pitcher.
Bauer was never found not guilty. His case never went to court in California. There is still one lawsuit pending against him in Arizona. He has only been to court once on the subject and he lost that case. He sued a publication for defamation and the court ruled against Bauer. He dropped the 2 other defamation cases he had filed within days of losing that case in court.
He is a cancer in the clubhouse. Look at how many former MLB teammates from 3 different teams said publicly that they would not want to play with him again. Of his former teammates on 3 different teams, only TWO have said they would want him back. TWO.
He is consistently misogynistic and toxic on social media.
He would be a PR nightmare for any team that chose to sign him, even on a minor league deal.
There is simply no benefit to signing him. Not from a baseball standpoint and certainly not from a PR standpoint. That is why no MLB team has even TALKED to him or his agent about it. We know that because Bauer keeps crying about that on social media.
Blue Baron
Shoeless Joe Jackson and his Black Sox teammates weren’t found guilty either.
websoulsurfer
Either was Pete Rose.
I Want to Believe
To assume that Bauer is good enough to be a #2 starter is probably a stretch. He would be getting his hands checked every inning in MLB, and he doesn’t exactly dominate without his sticky stuff. Probably still a decent pitcher, but a #2 seems far from a guarantee.
El Kabong
Given his current dating situation, Bauer probably still has plenty of sticky stuff on his hands.
DarkSide830
Steven Wright did though. He signed with the Pirates, but didn’t get back to the Majors.
El Kabong
One team offered Wright everything in the world to pitch for them, but he turned them down.
As Wright himself said:
“You can’t have everything. Where would you put it?”
angels fan for life
He belong in the mLB he was step up mlb is black ball him it sickens
Enregistre
You weren’t there either, how do you know he DIDN’T do it? What makes your opinion correct vs. the 3–4 women who have come forward?
Jaysfansince92
Well for one he showed a video that the one accuser made of her smiling while in bed with him sleeping beside her that showed no signs of bruising or any sign of violence of any kind.
He also showed records of her texting people about her plan to get money from him (before said incident occurred).
There were also texts where it shows she was planning on having someone else bruise her up before she went to the police.
Part of the settlement that he made with her in court was that he would be allowed to show the evidence to prove that he was innocent. If he wasn’t, do you really think she would have agreed to that?
Enregistre
And how do you know when that video is taken? Why should we believe you when your source is Bauer himself? Also, you’re focused on one woman when there are others, plus all the years of online harassment of other women.
websoulsurfer
A video that he refused to admit as evidence in court even though it might have been enough to win the one defamation case that he allowed to go to court and that he lost. Do you think maybe, just maybe, it was fake?
The settlement was sealed, so you have no idea what was in it. All anyone knows is she got $80,000. That is it.
Luke Strong
The women were all grifters. He was a mark. He talked through it all on his YT, showed what I think was conclusive proof. Come on man, you know how many women are out there who are trying to get their hooks in a pro athlete multi millionaire… it’s not like he met any of them at church.
El Kabong
@Luke Strong
Or maybe it’s the opposite: jocks using their status to get their hooks in women. As a guy, I’ve been around plenty of guys who have pulled that crap. Lots of guys are insecure jerks who think controlling a woman makes them a real “man.”
Enregistre
Far fewer than you think, sorry you’ve had such bad experiences with women making you believe this.
Also, the woman he spent 12 hours harassing on YouTube was a grifter?
SamMarlin
Trevor Bauer never would have won the Cy Young without the Roger Beshens Football Slider. Bauer and Driveline took advantage of that pitch crediting technology instead of recognizing Roger Beshens.
Roger Beshens didn’t need any technology to explain how to throw his Football Slider. On center grip, throw like a football, stiff wrist.
Where is the technology if we already know about it?
DroppedThirdStrike
You mean the sweeper?
Ham Fighter
I despise Trevor Bauer he’s a clubhouse cancer and a narcissistic a-hole. However he was cleared of any wrong doing and should not be banned from playing in MLB.
O'sSayCanYouSee
He’s not band. He’s unwanted.
Barry Bonds at age 42, had a 162 ops+ season, and ops over 1.000. He got no offers for his age 43 season.
Nobody wanted him. Was that because of ability, or…
Salzilla
He’s not banned. No one wants to sign him.
Eighty Raw
He also was not cleared of any wrongdoing like OP says. Not in the slightest! MLB gave him the longest suspension in history for violating the joint domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse policy. And then an independent arbitrator gave him the longest suspension in history for violating the joint domestic violence, sexual assault, and child abuse.
Suitcase Simpson
he’s not banned, no team wants a clubhouse cancer and narcissistic a-hole as you said yourself.
El Kabong
False. Bauer wasn’t cleared of wrongdoing; he broke the rules and is paying the price. People lose their jobs over stuff like this all the time. Why should Bauer be treated differently than those people?
From the story:
“Because the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy doesn’t require criminal charges for the league to take action.”
BITA
He’s going to sue in a few years. And he’s going to win. MLB has a monopoly on professional baseball in America. Csnt blackball someone like this.
El Kabong
Bauer and BITA. Certain kinds of guys stick together.
BITA
He will sue. And he will win. Wait and see.
stymeedone
I missed where he was cleared. I think you missed where an arbitrator heard both sides and being the only one to hear both sides, ruled that the longest suspension in MLB history was warranted. I also know he took no further legal action against MLB. He may not be legally guilty, but he sure isn’t innocent.
basquiat
It’s not just the women. It’s the other stunts he pulled like wrecking his hand before the playoffs playing with his drone or launching the ball to center when he got the hook. I listened to a number of his pressers when he was with Cleveland. I’ve never heard such a self-absorbed narcissist. He was never a team guy. He was all about his own stats and his latest genius trick.
BITA
Being a narcissist is not a reason to not employ someone who won a Cy Young award not too long ago and is still in his prime years.
He will sue. And he will win.
Enregistre
But it’s not the reason, because there are so many others
BITA
What legitimate reason is there for him not being in MLB right now?
Enregistre
His treatment of women for the better part of a decade.
outinleftfield
Joel, if he could have sued, he would have. He was found to have violated MLB policy. Once by MLB and a second time by an arbitrator. Since then he has said he will not stop doing what got him suspended because he things its his private business. He will never play in MLB until he agrees to stop. Since he won’t he can play in Mexico and Japan.
JackStrawb
That a pitcher throwing the ball over the CF fence when pulled is some unutterable black mark, is absurd.
Salzilla
See we needed a good thread to exercise the mute button!
This one belongs to the Reds
Indeed.
Old York
@Salzilla
Mute….!!!
/s
william-2
What a joke. A cy young pitcher colluded against and black balled by MLB from the game over an accusation that was utterly debunked.
Enregistre
Just one accusation huh? And not a pattern of being a jerk for the better part of a decade?
william-2
Being a jerk isn’t collusion and ban worthy. We all know jerks, but you don’t actively strip them of their livelihood for it. The main accusation was debunked. She lied and conspired to set him up. That was the mai. Accusation. The others never reached the level of any court, let alone a verdict. The league believed the girl that lied, and was more then happy to allow quantity, not evidence (the stuff courts use) to collude against him in the aftermath of a ban.
Enregistre
“Actively strip them of their livelihood” dude he’s been pitching in Japan, not on the street.
I like how everyone points to one specious example and ignores the dozens of other problematic behaviors Bauer has engaged in over the years.
william-2
Such as? Jerk? Half these guys aren’t exactly role models. Calling out the league? Some would call him a whistle blower, and him being right doesn’t help the argument. The girls? What exactly was he convicted of? The main Terrible one was debunked. She lied. Bad teammate? Dime a dozen
Enregistre
Maybe when he spent 12 hours harassing a college woman on Twitter? I see you’re ignoring the other women who came forward too.
JackStrawb
And we see that you’re making specious, unsupported claims about ‘other women.’
william-2
No, I haven’t. What did he do that he was found guilty of? You know, the kind of stuff that normally we would use as the gauge for a verdict, ban, etc. it seems like allegations are enough in this alternate world. I am not saying he did’t do everything they say. I just don’t know if they are believable, or as unbelievable as the biggest hoax one.
Enregistre
Everything that MLB and an independent arbitrator said was against MLB’s policies, that’s what he did.
william-2
Because Japan is exactly like MLB baseball in your own country? I am sure he is making the same amount too.
Enregistre
What does this have to do with anything?
william-2
He was suspended for anything he did or didn’t do. So all of it is past tense now. Why again is a cy young pitcher not throwing pitches for a major league team? We know it wasn’t because of performance. We know he is still better than many pitchers in the bigs right now and is on record saying he will pitch for league minimum to regain value. Not a single team? Not even a minor league contract? There are girlfriend and wife beating pitchers on rosters right now that teams have no trouble hiring. So, yeah, this is about the commissioner and league colluding to ban a player (that isn’t actually banned).
El Kabong
It wasn’t debunked. Don’t make stuff up; read the story before making anymore false claims.
william-2
The main claim was debunked. That isn’t a debate. She was caught red handed.
El Kabong
Then why was the suspension upheld? MLB conducted its investigation, as any company would. If he hadn’t violated the terms of his contract, the suspension would have been lifted. It’s what companies do in situations like this, and you can bet they do it on the up-and-up.
I worked for a company where someone was fired for similar reasons. There was no arrest or court case, but the guy was terminated. He was a married man (at the time) with a young child.
BITA
The suspension was upheld because by the time they finished investigating he had already been suspended. It was magically the same exact number of days he had missed when they finalized it. Kind of a weird coincidence right?
El Kabong
The Cardinals would sign Bauer if they weren’t in the middle of a massive rebuild.
BITA
Nobody will sign him because Manfred doesn’t want him around.
He will sue. He will win. Then all the teams can split the cost of this mess.
El Kabong
@BITA
Since you apparently have access to MLB’s investigation, could you post a link? That way, we can all be well-informed, like you.
william-2
The ban was the largest for that “offense” ever. The suspension was proven to be egregious and lowered due to the questionable allegations, and when the main and worst allegation was proven false, the entire situation came under question.
Again, I don’t know if the non hoax ones have merit, because they weren’t taken to court, nor was he proven guilty. The league has many reason to hate and want Bauer gone. He made them look terrible for three years about banned substances, and calling out league practices validly or not. He was a pain in the ass making waves for them. You have to admit that he SERVED his suspension and we don’t get to prolong it because of the exact thing he already served (right or wrong). He is league banned, and that is called collusion. People think a cy young caliber pitcher isn’t in demand at league minimum, let alone what he is now? Ridiculous.
Enregistre
It’s collusion to not want a PR headache?
william-2
Yes. That is basically the core of collusion. Collusion is banned in baseball and has already been litigated in the past. You can’t conspire amongst the owners or with the league to the detriment of the players knowingly.
Enregistre
Or maybe teams don’t want to deal with his baggage?
El Kabong
It’s not collusion to avoid hiring someone who has violated the terms of his previous contract. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, and others have lost their jobs and, in many cases, their licenses for similar indiscretions. Those people are done in those professions. Why should Trevor Bauer be treated differently? He was given a tremendous opportunity and threw it clear out of the ballpark.
socalbball
BITA, If what you seem to be suggesting is the case, then why didn’t the arbitrator limit the suspension to the number of days he was suspended without pay? In the unlikely event that Bauer ever pitches again in the major leagues, some of his pay will be withheld to cover the days for which he was paid.
william-2
Because what you are describing isn’t collusion. That is an individual choice by the hiring parties either by personal choice or because of a rule within their field. Baseball has, does, and will hire players with domestic issues, abuse, etc. because they want talent. They also rehire because of the basic tenant of time served for one’s offenses. Collusion has been litigated already in baseball, and baseball lost BIG TIME.
websoulsurfer
He had a 4.51 ERA when he was not admittedly cheating with sticky substances. in his hubris he literally told the world on his YouTube account exactly when he was cheating, so we can see exactly when it was and when we were seeing his actual level of talent.
The last time he played in the NPB he had a 2.76 ERA that ranked 90th among starting pitchers in NPB as a whole and 47th in the Japan Central League. With just 12 teams in NPB that means he was a back of the rotation starter in Japan. A #6 starter.
stymeedone
It wasn’t debunked at the arbitration hearing. He owns the record for longest suspension.
Eighty Raw
Literally entered into the court record as “fact” that he punched and sodomized an unconscious woman
This one belongs to the Reds
This guy didn’t just burn bridges at every stop in MLB, he obliterated them. That was before anything else became public. That’s not someone anyone will go to bat for, so to speak.
I can tell you no one in MLB will ever touch him. Word gets around.
william-2
I agree that claiming cheating was going on and demanding they deal with it incensed the league. Making it worse he flat out said he would cheat also, and won the cy young cheating. It forced the leagues hand.
Old York
@Barry bondser
People are generally not capable of thinking beyond their own bias. A lot of people are low IQ as well, which doesn’t help.
Enregistre
Wait a second, you said: “if I don’t know their character, how do I know how to properly judge them. I generally hold my opinion on many people that I have never met.”
Gee, this comment above sounds like you’re judging a lot of people you haven’t met!
Old York
@Enregistre
Those are just stats… Average IQ is about 98.
Enregistre
When did I say anything about IQ?
Furthermore, have you considered that YOU are maybe biased TOWARDS Bauer?
Old York
@Enregistre
I’ve never been biased in my whole life.
Enregistre
I don’t think you can say stuff like “people are generally not capable of thinking beyond their own bias. A lot of people are low IQ as well, which doesn’t help” when you are incapable of judging your biases.
Old York
@Enregistre
I can say it when the data confirms it. Similar to when someone drops a ball and it falls to the ground. We generally call that gravity because it’s a scientific fact. Has nothing to do with bias.
Enregistre
You’re missing the point. You saying that you’ve never been biased is incredibly deluded.
Launch Angle
Bauer is reformed. He even excepted language in his NPB contract that he will do his own dishes from now on…
Enregistre
Why do you despise all those politicians you’ve never met?
Motown is My Town
Lock up all your wives, mothers, sisters, daughters, grandmothers..he’ll, every woman in Japan as none of them are safe w Bauer on the prowl
JGCNYYGBP
Who actually cares about Trevor Bauer? He’s totally non significant. Shouldn’t waste any thoughts or comments on him.
sensiblepiratesfan
Agreed
Annihilus
Irony.
BITA
No better way to say who cares than to comment on him.
joew
MLB just doesn’t like him. This whole situation gave them a reason to get him gone.
I understand having to investigate such things, but dang.
By the time a team has the balls to take on the drama his arm will be gone
El Kabong
Bauer violated the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy, as did Julio Urias. That’s why both no longer have the privilege of playing Major League Baseball.
joew
Comparing the two is laughable
websoulsurfer
Joe, you are right. Bauer was far worse. Convicted twice by MLB and an arbitrator of violating the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy on 3 counts. Received the longest suspension in MLB history because of that fact.
His arm was never good. He had a 4.51 ERA when not using sticky substances and he went on his YouTube account and told the world exactly when he had been using them and when he hadn’t. Even in what appears to be a good season in the NPB he ranked 90th in a 12-team league, So, there is that.
El Kabong
They are comparable because both violated the terms of the same policy in their contract and are now out of Major League Baseball.
bestone
But….they could run for office in the US….or be in charge or some large government department….
El Kabong
The way things are going, Bauer will be pardoned and put in charge of women’s healthcare.
joew
Here is the difference. One was punished in a criminal court. The other wasn’t. I don’t even think there where any charges brought against.
Non Roster Invitee
Can’t wait to order the 2025 Nippon baseball card set! Tanaka, Sugano, Murakami, Bauer!
Enregistre
Barry bondser is Bauer’s burner
Enregistre
Is Bauer better than Sale, Skubal, Wheeler, Ragans, Cease, Lugo, Webb, Kirby, Gilbert, Burnes, Fried, Bibee, Shota, Valdez, Cole, Ohtani, Snell, Glasnow, Yamamoto, Nola? Or do I not know anything about baseball stats like WAR in 2024 MLB
Sevensickos
He should be signed to a major league club. Paid his dues on the punishment. Let him continue his career.
El Kabong
Playing a sport at any level isn’t a right; it’s a privilege. Nobody is blocking Bauer’s right to make a living; he just can’t do it in Major League Baseball. It happens all the time in other fields.
HalosHeavenJJ
I have a feeling there’s something in MLB’s investigation nobody wants to come out.
Dude is a jerk but his charges were dropped along with the civil case.
El Kabong
Read the story. A court case or conviction is not needed.
DarrenDreifortsContract
Manfred probably has skeletons in closet that he doesn’t want to come out. Better to sweep it under the rug than to bring exposure.
DarkSide830
Bauer is not in the MLB for the same reason why Yasiel Puig did not get back into the game after his ill-fated near-miss with the Braves in 2020 – they are simply not liked. You can make comparisons to others, but this belief that Bauer is unique in his hatred by the league is absurd. Him, Puig, Roberto Osuna, and Jose Urias are all in the same boat, as are and have been others.
DarkSide830
But like Puig and [Julio] Urias, he was accused multiple times (Osuna was a somewhat different story but not entirely), and that sort of thing makes said allegations feel a lot more real for an employer. It’s not even about what was done as much as fear thereof, bad press, and the belief by some that he’s not a great teammate. I can understand why his presence in a lockerroom may not be desired.
Diggydugler
I dont know if Osuna was hated, unless you mean hated because of domestic violence…but Chapman is loved for that so the MLB isnt really consistent.
El Kabong
@DarkSide830
As I’m sure you know, Bauer and Puig were agent Rachel Luba’s only two MLB clients.
Cash-Man-NY
I would absolutely love to see an in pinstripes but just imagine if he latched on to the A’s, spent a little time in Sacramento , then on to Vegas baby!!
It just might be fun for a little while reading all the over exaggerated stories about MLB players and all the terrible things they did that most people could only dream of having the money to do exactly the same things player did
braves95 2
Yes he was cleared of the accusations. Regardless he’s considered a clubhouse cancer and a headache. That’s why no one is signing him. This isn’t hard to understand
El Kabong
He wasn’t cleared of anything. The suspension was upheld, although shortened,
joew
MLB suspension means little outside of baseball, the suspension was reduced to basically time served
Eighty Raw
Not cleared at all in fact
CO Guardening
Funny enough, he never pitched for the Guardians… and never will.
Butter Biscuits
Nothing like a Bauer article to have a spike in website traffic
joew
Some one was just saying something to the effect that this off season is boring.. leave it to Bauer to fix that problem lol
DarrenDreifortsContract
Got blackballed for being kinky in his personal life with women who were willing.
#justicefortrevor
websoulsurfer
Thanks for confirming where you stand on morals or upholding your commitments and contracts.
Bauer and his attorney admitted that he beat women to get his rocks off. He said it was consensual, and it might have been. When FOUR women come out about it, it’s likely not, but let’s go with while sick, its consensual.
It’s still against the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence policy. He agreed to abide by those rules when he signed his contract, and it is against those rules.
He was convicted twice of violating that policy on 3 counts, all with different women. Once by MLB and one by an independent arbitrator when he appealed the suspension.
Bauer has said repeatedly that he is not willing to stop the behavior that got him suspended. That it is private. It is private behavior AND it’s still against MLB policy. To play in MLB you have to sign a contract agreeing to abide by that policy and he has said repeatedly that he has no intention of doing so.
Why would any team take a chance on him doing it again and getting suspended again even if he was a good pitcher? He is NOT a good pitcher, but I am not covering that here. Read my other posts for that.
Bauer was never found innocent. His case never went to court in California as is the case in over 90% of he said, she said cases. There is still one lawsuit for the same behavior pending against him in Arizona.
He has only been to court once on the subject and he lost that case. He sued a publication for defamation and the court ruled against Bauer. He dropped the 2 other defamation cases he had filed within days of losing that case in court.
He deserves the consequences of his actions. Justice is what Trevor got.
Now if you said mercy for Trevor, that would be an entirely different conversation.
DarrenDreifortsContract
I literally didn’t read any of that lol.
El Kabong
@DDC
I stopped reading your comment after you misused the word “literally.” Please hire an editor.
websoulsurfer
That fits. Why would you want to confuse yourself with the facts of the situation?
El Kabong
@websoulsurfer
Facts, facts, facts. What kind of a Murican are you?
DarrenDreifortsContract
If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit!
websoulsurfer
He was convicted for violating the MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence Policy on 3 counts with 3 different women. Twice. Once by MLB and once by an independent arbitrator. What part of that do you not understand?
Doug Dueck
@ Darren – I very happily hit the mute button. Websoulsurfer really has it out for Bauer and is obssessed with telling everyone over and over about his hatred for him. Sad.
Enregistre
Websoulsurfer is stating facts; he’s not saying anything about hating him. You interpreting it this way shows how blinded you are by your toxic masculinity.
outinleftfield
Doug is Bauer’s other burner?
joew
He hasn’t lost a criminal case and he effectively won a civil case against one woman. Another woman was charged criminally for her part of the mess.
Only one that was lost was not in court it was MLB. He later won an appeal with the MLB.
I can certainly see why many wouldn’t want him on their team but it shouldn’t be because of his bed rom activities given the information we have now.
SamMarlin
MLB prefers that players avoid talking about anything sex related to their personal sex lives especially if it might distract the team.
When someone focuses only on themselves it can be a relief when that behavior stops.
DarrenDreifortsContract
Is he suspended or banned as of right now, yes or no?
SamMarlin
His status by MLB doesn’t matter.
No team wants him and it’s obvious,
Each team clearly has its own reason.
DarrenDreifortsContract
Yeah just like no team wanted Barry Bonds even though he was still hitting 30 homers while leading the league in walks and OBP lol.
SamMarlin
Let it go, what’s done is done.
Bonds hit more home runs cause of steroids and we know without the Roger Beshens Football Slider Trevor Bauer wouldn’t have won the Cy Young or landed a big contract.
The Dodgers are always on the lookout for elite Roger Beshens Football Slider pitchers. In May 2018 pitchers like Glasnow, Snell, Flaherty, Bauer… learned the same thing. The Roger Beshens Football Slider.
Enregistre
That’s true, no one wanted Barry Bonds at the end of his career. Why? Because he was a jerk and had baggage. Less than Bauer. Was that cOlLuSiOn too?
Bivouac-Sal
so glad the mute button works
THEY LIVE!!!
I’d like to hear from Wander Franco…..
THEY LIVE!!!
Why hasn’t the Players Union ever filed a grievance on behalf of Bauer?
BITA
Because they represent the majority not one lone wolf. Bauer is on his own.
Enregistre
Not true. They have filed grievances on behalf of single players before, like Kris Bryant.
It’s pretty telling they haven’t, isn’t it?
BITA
The Bryant situation is one that is about all future players. This is entirely different.
He will sue. And he will win. Kapernick 2.0 wait and see.
Enregistre
lmao what a ludicrous comparison. The NFL blackballed Kaepernick because he took a stand against racism by protesting the anthem. Bauer beat up women.
BITA
He didn’t beat up anyone you made that up.
Eighty Raw
He punched an unconscious woman. Not up for debate.
Salzilla
Dude, are you for real? The guy himself said he won’t stop stuff that’s I’m private. I’m sorry that your hero is a vile POS, but get over it and move on. He’s not pitching in MLB ever again.
Oldguy58
If only he had an interpreter to blame he would still be pitching in the major leagues
Salzilla
Let’s keep this simple: each team is a company and when you hire someone to work at your company you do background checks. Trevor Bauer’s background check is littered with red flags. In this country, that’s the end of story at the highest level as it should be
And yet, he’s still making money playing baseball so I wouldn’t feel too bad for him.
foppert3
Yeah mate. Mine too. One brief look at his social media history and that resume is straight in the bin.
A legal stoush would be very interesting. Sort of hope it happens.
BITA
Not that simple
MLB has a monopoly in America. He has a right to make a living. And his background check isn’t littered with red flags because you can’t deny employment based on public outcry and made up facts.
Enregistre
There are several independent leagues in the US he could play for if he chooses. No one is denying him the right to play baseball or make a living. If I don’t get hired by a company, they’re not denying my right to work.
Was it made up when he harrassed a woman on Twitter for 12 hours for everyone to see?
BStrowman7
Bauer is a loser. He thought he was smarter than everyone. Had he signed a long term deal back when he was a free agent instead of signing a short term deal because he thought he was going to “maximize his earnings on short term deals” it’d be interesting to see if he would’ve been blackballed.
A lot harder for a team like Cincinnati to eat 5/$125MM than the Dodgers who only had to walk away from 1/20MM.
Lindsey Hill is also complete trash and you can’t possibly side with her in that case with the evidence that has been released. She is a money chasing liar.
Salzilla
It’s absolutely that simple. A background check is based on a heck of a whole lot and he has no chance. He’d be done in seconds with most companies outside of baseball, too. You have zero right to work for any company you want. That’s on the hiring company to decide.
BITA
Baseball has a monopoly. The rules are different because of that.
He will sue. And he will win. Wait and see.
Salzilla
Dude, he has no “right” to play baseball. He can sue, sure, but what’s he winning? Money? Who cares. He’s not winning himself back into MLB. No team can be forced to hire someone they don’t want to hire. Period.
BITA
He has a right to earn a living in his chosen profession.
The rules are different here because MLB has a monopoly on professional baseball in America.
He will sue. He will win. Kapernick 2.0.
El Kabong
BITA.
You are wrong. Playing a sport at any level isn’t a right; it’s a privilege. No one is denying Bauer a right to make a living. There are plenty of other jobs he can do.
BITA
He’s a baseball player. MLB is denying him the chance to play baseball. There is no question he’s good enough his Cy Young speaks to that. He has a right to earn a living at his profession.
He will sue. And he will win.
El Kabong
BITA
The article you are responding to concerns Bauer signing a contract to play baseball. Doh!
outinleftfield
If he could have sued, he would have sued. Its that simple.
outinleftfield
He is earning a living in his chosen profession, just not in MLB. He hasn’t sued and won’t because no lawyer would take that case when they know that he will lose.
outinleftfield
Bita/Joel is not the sharpest tool in the shed Kabong.
El Kabong
Bita/Joel sounds like the name of a Persian Billy Joel imitator.
3 finger split
You can’t force a company to hire you.
Every baseball team is a company and they all have their own idea of morality besides what MLB has. Bauer is a PR nightmare and the female fanbase would revolt.
He just isn’t worth the squeeze for the juice.
3 finger split
He will sue and he will lose.
You just aren’t very smart
I have the degree that qualifies me to work for NASA but they are denying me a job and from what you say I can sue NASA and force them to hire me?
Get a life guy…there are people that are qualified in their chosen professions that get denied jobs everyday.
Just a bit of advice…when you find yourself getting deeper in a hole…quit digging.
Eighty Raw
Here’s a fact that you seem to keep ignoring: he punched an sodomized an unconscious woman
LGM1979
Would you think the same if that was your daughter?
websoulsurfer
300 Comments
267 comments are hidden because you muted the comment authors
I was right. They came out in droves and I am lucky to have not even seen their posts.
norcalblue
nice surfer. You clearly have even better taste and judgement.
mine reads:
314 Comments
199 comments are hidden because you muted the comment authors
Enregistre
Don’t worry. The “authors” of those comments are getting crushed.
Enregistre
All of barry bondser’s got deleted or he was banned.
troy
Friendly reminder that Bauer is a rapist who admitted to raping multiple women. Having intercourse with an unconscious person is rape. A person who is not conscious cannot consent. Just so we’re all clear.
Sourhaze
A 35year old loser by the time he’s done. Fanboy incels “bur he’s a top 20 pitcher” hasn’t pitched against real competition since 2021. A 73 inning cy young lmao and he’s a top 20 dude. Cry harder he ain’t coming back
Man What Runs With the Football
Gotta love all the ignorant hypocrites. There were NO charges filed by district attorneys, there were no trials, one of the women texted him AFTER he supposedly beat her up. So basically this guys life was ruined by some women ACCUSING him of a crime. I could accuse anyone of anything but unless there’s evidence it’s going to go no further than accusations. He was convicted in the court of public opinion by people who have never been near a law library. Kinky sex with willing women got him suspended and blackballed. Makes no sense. Why does MLB care what kind of sex Trevor and his groupies are into?
El Kabong
He violated the terms of MLB/MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy. Criminal charges aren’t needed for the league to take action. It’s all there in the story you didn’t read.
Rays in the Bay
@El
Exactly. Wander Franco has technically not been criminally charged either, but he violated the league and player union’s policies and therefore will never return to MLB again. Both Franco and Bauer’s situations are well-deserved, charged or not.
outinleftfield
Holy BLEEEEEP! They allowed comments on this. Wow.
Good thing is it allowed a bunch of the worst people in the world to pop their heads up so they can be seen and muted.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
He’s never gonna pitch in MLB again.
Never have opinions that go against the dominant zeitgeist, and never have dirty laundry, your fault or not. Then you might have a chance to not have everything you have ever worked for taken from you.
Doesn’t sound like a great way to have to live, but that is how it is. I would not call this freedom.
I’m muting anyone who replies, full disclosure. Not even gonna read it.
olmtiant
Well… I guess Jerry Jones could have picked ONE person worse that his actual pick to be the new head coach… so my Cowboys got that going for them
brushbackmlb
I was personally in favor of “Comments Closed” on controversial articles.
Just sharing my thoughts as 300+ did before me. And I would be okay with not, if that was the restriction. Maybe lawyers, or those with actual knowledge could get an exception….
Pickles McGee
If Mlbtraderumors is going to mention the Arizona complaint they at least should add that it has been discredited to the extent that chargers had been filed against the woman accusing him. Once a guy has a bad rep — and this knucklehead sure put himself out there — it can become one big bad bandwagon.
Fred McGriff HR
You’ve got to love all the comments about Bauer, when Bauer has never been found guilty of anything of a criminal nature.
He was unwise, he got involved with a woman who wanted to sting him for money, she personally admitted it on video, but let’s ignore it, MLB have.
Now before the woke start attacking me, I am neither for or against Bauer, you see I believe in the rule of law, Bauer is guilty of nothing, hence he has a passport, he’s never spent a day in jail, and the woman accuser should be the one in jail for trying to get him done for an incident she wilfully involved herself in so she could sting him for money. That’s the USA for you though, trial by media and people who claim others shouldn’t be discriminated against, but it’s ok as far as you are concerned in relation to Bauer. The irony indeed..
Have a very nice day. I look forward to seeing Bauer pitch for Yokohama and the haters can go and have a good cry in the corner. Maaaa, maaaa maaaa.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Does he have to have committed a crime for MLB teams to decide that they don’t want to employ him?
Fred McGriff HR
@66TheNumberOfTheBest
Did I assert that anywhere.. Is he being treated like you’d be treated if you got rolling drunk and got charged by police for committing a crime? Not at all.
Do you think it is an even playing field that is being applied to Bauer, and that he is being treated differently to others across a whole range of sports.
Eighty Raw
“you see I believe in the rule of law”
OJ wasnt convicted of murder, incel
Fred McGriff HR
@EightyRaw
How long did OJ do in prison?
Was there sufficient proof in his civil case?
Out come the lefty terms straight away, “incel”.. I’m glad to see people like you triggered, but keep your woke terms to yourself, lefty.
Do you throw left handed, bat left handed and beat your meat with a meat tenderizer left handed, I bet you do.
Rays in the Bay
Companies and teams have just as much right to not have him on their team as much as he has to be on them. If a criminal says he’s a criminal in his interviews and nobody hires him, you can’t blame said companies for avoiding the bombshell.
Whether he’s guilty or not, he’s a big D-bag and he sucks personality-wise. Big waste of talent. He’ll do fine in NPB because NPB hitters are a step below MLB hitters, but he’ll never play in MLB again. Sayonara to him.
Fred McGriff HR
@Rays in the Bay
“He’s a dirtbag and he sucks personality wise”. You know this how?
Have you met him?
What did he say that triggered you so much? His political views, his views on MLB not doing anything about the Astros at the time he claimed they were cheating. His views on pitchers using spider tack?
BoogeycBacon
Blue Jays were finalists for him too…
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Bauer got Kaepernicked.
No big deal.
MLB is a private employer, just like the NFL.
Fred McGriff HR
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Not even a close comparison. Bauer is, and has been good at what he does, Kaepernick not so.
LGM1979
Including being a massive tool, even without the assaults, he was insufferable.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Did Bauer lead his team to a championship game?
Regardless, are you saying that if a person is deemed “good” by public consensus then private employers are obligated to employ them?
Fred McGriff HR
@66TheNumberOfTheBest
Show me where I said that. You’re making things up.
No one is obligated to do anything. Bauer has accusations against him, not facts-it cost him his career. You and others like you believe that is fair and consistent, so be it.
Go and have a watch of this and tell me what is fact. There is zero proof he laid a hand on her at all in regard to alleged assault or beating her. Zero evidence.
youtube.com/watch?v=tAs5DCuzdSA
66TheNumberOfTheBest
No one is obligated to do anything.
So, what’s the problem?
They don’t want to employ him, so they don’t. He’s free to seek employment elsewhere, and he has.
This is at will employment in a free market.
Rays in the Bay
I’ve heard he posts YouTube videos where he uncomfortably hits on his Japanese interpreter. If that’s the case, he’s a pretty unashamed disgusting guy. He’ll never be back in MLB. No team wants that nonsense on their team, especially if they may be on the hook money-wise if he does it again.
Fred McGriff HR
Rays in the Bay
You’ve heard….
Who’s his gf? Tell us all about his private life instead of conjecturing. Do you know anything about his agent?
He didn’t play in Japan last season.
Old York
@Rays in the Bay
I heard something similar about you as well. If that’s the case, you’re a pretty unashamed disgusting guy.
LGM1979
Gross
deepseamonster32
Comments need to remain open here to contain all the Bauer Bros. Hopefully none of them have daughters. or sons
Mitchell Page
I think his problem is he likes to copy or do stupid stuff he’s seem on chaturbate. Now if you’re going to do this stupid stuff you have to be dedicated to the woman that he was using or they feel used and hence the charges and airing of dirty laundry.
DroppedThirdStrike
He’s not banned, just more headache than he’s worth.
RichP
No clue why a team won’t give him a chance to prove himself in MLB?! All the BS appears to be in his past – time to move on – there is no excuse or reason why he won’t to in Spring Training this season!