Sheel Seidler, the widow of late Padres’ owner Peter Seidler, filed a lawsuit earlier this month trying to gain control of the team. That suit made various allegations, including that two of Peter’s brothers (Matt and Bob) breached various fiduciary duties as they tried to make an underhanded attempt to control the club and maybe even relocate the team. This week, Matt Seidler has filed a response that refutes Sheel’s narrative, as relayed by Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune and Dennis Lin of The Athletic.
Matt and Sheel present very different perspectives about how things have proceeded in recent years. Matt’s response states that Peter amended his trust seven times and did not name Sheel a trustee in any of those changes, whereas Peter’s brothers Robert, Matt and John Seidler are designated as trustees, with the trustees to name the control person. In December, it was reported that John would be named the club’s new control person.
“In fact,” the response reads, “… the Trust Agreement precludes Sheel from ever serving as a successor Trustee under any circumstance. Conversely, Peter provided that, after Sheel’s death, each of his Children would have the right to become cotrustees of their own trusts once they reached the age of (40).” The response goes on to say that the transactions Sheel identified as fraud actually benefited the trust at a rate twice as much as expected, with Sheel and her children beneficiaries of said trust.
Matt’s response also alleges the trust has made multiple transactions to benefit Sheel, including transferring ownership of a $30MM Texas ranch to her name, the purchase of an $8.5MM home in Coronado, California, as well as cash disbursements totaling more than $4.5MM. Matt’s response alleges that Sheel requested to be the club’s control person, which Matt denied, at which point she demanded $20MM and a promise of annual payments in that same amount. Matt also alleges that Sheel used power of attorney to take $2.5MM from one of Peter’s accounts while he was in the ICU. The filing also states that “Sheel’s goal is to manufacture claims against the Trustees in pursuit of the control that Peter intentionally chose not to give her” and that the lawsuit was a public relations move which “sought to prejudice the Padres fanbase against Matt, Bob, and John.”
Whether the ownership battle has any on-field impact is something that can be debated, but Matt’s filing insinuates that Sheel’s suggestion that the club might leave San Diego impacted discussions with right-hander Roki Sasaki. The Dodgers were long considered the most likely landing spot for Sasaki with the Padres considered a dark-horse threat. The Padres and Dodgers were two of the three finalists, alongside the Blue Jays, though Sasaki did eventually pick the Dodgers.
Longtime Padre Jurickson Profar recently signed with Atlanta and was asked about not returning to San Diego. In video relayed by Jim Russell of Jon & Jim, Profar alluded to the “issues with ownership” that the Padres have.
Perhaps that was a reference to this legal battle or simply the club’s well-documented financial issues in recent years. Even before Peter died in November of 2023, it was reported in September of that year that the club would have to cut back its spending habits because they were deemed to be “out of compliance with MLB regulations regarding their debt service ratio.” The current offseason and last winter’s have been largely defined by the club dealing with payroll constraints, which led to last winter’s Juan Soto trade. The club has been less active this offseason but players like Dylan Cease, Michael King, Luis Arráez, Robert Suarez and others have been in trade rumors.
Dane Butswinkas, an attorney representing Sheel, provided Acee with a statement in response to Matt’s filing: “The response, for all of its bravado, is especially thin in responding to the very specific and serious allegations of Matt and Robert Seidler’s breaches of fiduciary duty. It’s ironic that they accuse Sheel — Peter’s wife of two decades and the mother of his three children — of misusing his assets, while at the same time they have reaped the benefits of Peter’s generosity for decades. The fact is, we will win in court because the defendants have shown they have no case. In short, their response is a total strike out.”
It’s unclear what the next steps of the legal process will be or what the expected timelines are. Per Lin, the MLB owners are scheduled to vote on John as the club’s control person next week. Many clubs are owned by multiple people but each team gets one control person who is a point of contact for the league and who votes on league matters.
Complicated ownership disputes are not unprecedented in Major League Baseball. Various members of the Angelos family, which previously owned the Orioles, filed lawsuits against each other after Peter Angelos fell ill. Those lawsuits were dropped in February of 2023 and the club was sold to a group headed by David Rubenstein in 2023.
Here come the doomers who think they know what they’re talking about in the comments regarding the Padres…
Stein – Kinda ironic the Padres might be going through something somewhat similar to what the Dodgers went through with Frank & Jamie. Hopefully it doesn’t get as ugly.
It’ll be worse
It will be much worse. Selig made the McCourt’s sell the team. Manfred is hands off with everything. I doubt he steps him here.
Imagine the McCourt years without Guggenheim coming in to buy the team.
The doomers have been more right for about two years now.
Can you name anything they got correct?
Limits on the SD payroll.
Not signing Soto l/t
Trading Soto
The expected return on Soto.
Padres dipped under the CBT for a single season like most teams do after a couple of years over. Not limits. Smart business. They got that one wrong. They said the Padres absolutely had to lower payroll by $100 million and keep the CBT payroll under $200 million. Neither happened. They were wrong.
Boras said that if Seidler had not died that Soto would still be a Padre. That they were deep in negotiations. The doomers were wrong about that one.
Trading Soto was a GREAT baseball move. In no way were the doomers were correct about that.
The doomers were not close on the return for Soto. 4 MLB players plus a top 100 prospect. Are you f’ing kidding me. They are all over low level prospects because Soto was a rental.
So now that we have established that the doomers were correct about none of those things, do you have anything real you can add.
The Padres entire offseason has been Elias Diaz, scared off Sasaki, lost Profar, lost their best free agent to the Dodgers, no major league catcher, no left fielder, no 4-5 starters. Peter Seidler was a great man and his family is throwing it all away. This is a .500 team
This team wins 90+ games
Currently projected as a .505 team by Fangraphs.
Because fangraphs can predict the future
no, but VegasSDfan can.
Padres are predicted to be the 5th best team in the NL in Las Vegas. 2 games better than the Diamondbacks. A playoff team.
Nice Deerhoof reference with your name. Is this another Ryan account? Just wondering because a name like that fits his M.O. .
No, my name isn’t Ryan but I’ll give you a hint—it’s in my handle.
So your name is Tim so you made an account name referencing a Deerhoof song?
87.5 by Fanduels. Bookies make a living out of being close on these things. Past that, SD had a 90 Py W/L. Darvish return offsets some of Musgrove’s loss. Tatis’ return and maybe slightly better outcomes for Bogaerts.
I don’t see how that translates to .505. I’d gladly bet over on the .505.
You think a 2 game projection means anything? Wait until you learn what a margin of error is
Because fangraphs can predict the future
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Sure. Everyone is capable of making predictions. Surely that goes without saying.
This is a weird argument, VegasSDfan.
You: * makes a prediction *
toptim: * shares a conflicting prediction from a source generally accepted as knowledgeable *
You: no one knows what will happen!!!1!
Nice to meet you, Top!
You can’t get a bet anywhere on a .505 O/U. It’s between 87.5 and 89 wins depending on the sportsbook you visit,
Where in Fangraphs? I looked and couldn’t find that and would be very interested in reading it. do you have a link?
The only projections on Fangraphs I could find was Steamer which has them as having a team that will put up 42.6 WAR and replacement level is 48 wins. Add those together and that means they project them at 90.6 wins.
ZiPS has a more optimistic projection, in the high 80s, but for some reason it includes Kim on the team with a projected 3.1 WAR.
The rotation falls apart fast and there is very little depth to the roster. High variance team that could easily repeat 2023.
fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings
far right column has preliminary projected win %
Zips has not put out any projections for the Padres.
fangraphs.com/projections?type=zips&stats=bat…
Where does Depth Charts get that from? There is no methodology. There are no actual projections.
“Add everything up and ZiPS projects the Padres to finish with a win total in the high 80s, enough to be one of the prime Wild Card contenders, with an outside shot at upsetting the Dodgers. They’d make for an extremely dangerous opponent in the postseason. Still, it’s a fragile high-80s projection, with the very preliminary ZiPS projected standings pegging San Diego with a very low floor.”
blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-zips-projections-san-dieg…
Padres have the talent right now to be a NL Wild Card team.
If they make the playoffs, then anything can happen.
The hottest team in October wins it all regardless of regular season records.
This site is basically just clickbait gossip at this point.
It really is
Spend some money and I don’t care who is running the team.
Bit the Seidlers aren’t spending money.
What’s their payroll again? $200MM? What do you consider spending money?
About 212m and 246m tax wise.
The padres have spent money, it was just spent on long term deals years ago.
What is the payroll expectation? Are they suppose to get in more debt?
When sheel answered questions yesterday it was reported that the padres are 100m in debt. We don’t know what caused all that debt. It could be from 2020 when a lot of teams went into debt. It could be from all the park upgrades. It could be from the expanding payroll. Heck it could be a combination of things. They took out a loan for 50m, league didn’t allow the 100m they wanted. So Peter leveraged his trust for an additional 50m to cover the expenses.
In 2023 they had a payroll of 255m. Lost their tv deal that year as well or shortly after the 2022 season. The padres are a top 15 revenue team with a top 10 payroll and not tv deal. A team in debt, what is the real expectations of the ownership?
When the padres win about the same amount of games as they did with a ridiculous payroll they had no business going to your going to shut up right? Sense that will prove you don’t know what your talking about?
Thank god we have you to explain everything to us. Steinbrenner2728 for Keyboard Warrior of the Year.
Hire the Superfife!
No player(s) involve here… personally I don’t care.
Padres = poverty franchise.
I’m interested in seeing how some Pads fans (one in particular) will spin this as a positive. It doesn’t seem like the widow is going to come out on top.
Only thing she came out on top of was Peter.
He needed help with videos playing.
Actual front office gossip…
Ron Fowler knows more, but he’s a good businessman. He shut up and walked out the door.
Wow.
Waiting for Pete’s bestie to enter the fray. Surely he deserves a piece.
This response will bore you, bit it’s he said she said and completely meaningless as it will play out in court, and over quite a length of time.
NICE Ryan. You liked your post with ALL of your active accounts, You seem like a disturbed person Ryan, but even you can look up to see if a document was actually filed with the court and not just released to the press. Try that.
Two things happened on Monday that are in the court data. A court appointed receiver is being appointed over the trusts. That means Matt Seidler is out. A temporary injunction was allowed to block John Seidler from becoming the Padres control person. That is why the section that Lin Tweeted about regarding a vote by MLB when it had originally been scheduled next week was removed from the article.
Don’t bother answering, I won’t see it.
Yes, everyone knows its you. you can’t hide for more than a few posts
I think Pads Fans just might be insane and “Ryan” is living rent free in his head. I also think he’s full of it.
Says Ryan on one of his accounts,
Regardless of what some PADS FANS think, this is going to be tied up in the courts for months, if not years. And with both sides willing to litigate, it’s not even a matter of who’s right and who’s wrong, it’s about who’s better at telling the more believable story.
This should be fun!
Mets — The Orioles had the same thing happen with everyone going public, and make lawsuits. Then within a couple months, they all dismissed their cases, and moved on quickly.
But Orioles ownership came together quickly to sell…since this isn’t about getting the team ready to sell, it could go another way.
This is way worse. Long fight ahead.
MLB could force a sale of the team in the best interests of baseball.
Both sides want everything and refuse to compromise.
I think Pads Fan is busy misinterpreting today’s court transcripts.
Wow, he’s in your head
It looks like he got it right. The court has made 2 rulings, One to appoint a receiver over the trust. The other to grant the temporary injunction on appointing a control person.
@mets: I love your name. The Mets are indeed trash. I always call them the New York Mess.
Waiting for the inevitable comment from Pads Fans/websoulsurfer/ outinleftfield who knows more about this lawsuit than even the relevant parties do.
You have learned well young padawan.
Where could they move this team to if relocation was an option?
LA? I mean, it worked for the Chargers.
Gravel — dude, LA already has 1.5 teams. And that’s just the Dodgers. If you count the Angels, there’s almost 2 whole teams. 🙂
The Angels have their own problems with ownership.
Has it? The Chargers paid nearly $1. billion total to move including $645 million in a relocation fee and the $250 million they were forced to spend for a new training facility after San Diego ended the lease on the training facility in Kearny Mesa. Played 3 seasons, from 2017-2019 ,in a 21k seat soccer stadium losing what Dean Spanos said was over $400 million in the process. The stands at their “home” games are filled with opposing teams jerseys. They are drawing 4K less per game than the other team that plays in SoFi Stadium and were 19th in attendance in the NFL. In 2016 the Chargers were the 21st most valuable franchise in the NFL. In 2024 they were the 20th most valuable franchise in the NFL Behind the Cleveland Browns. Their stadium mates are #2.
It didn’t really work very well for the Chargers.
Chargers are tenants in the Rams building in LA.
They were rockstars selling out every game with a rabid fan base in San Diego.
And, recent analysis shows that based on all the facts, circumstances and financials, the Chargers would have been better off staying in San Diego.
Sorry folks. That was a bit of sarcasm. Carry on.
Pads Fans tends to take posts literally. Especially once he gets wound up like he was in other posts. You will get used to him. He tends to know his stuff.
Vegas or Nashville. The usual suspects. All teams will end up in those cities if veil threats are to be believed.
Nashville would be the perfect location for a relocated Padres team, whose ownership will be forced to sell after this lawsuit is dragged out for years. Once the Padres lease runs out in 2032 at Petco Park, our ownership group, Music City LLC, will be ready in the wings to take the ashes of this disgraced franchise and bring it to new heights in Nashville with the goal of winning a World Series while creating a wholesome entertainment environment for fans and families alike. We guarantee that we can enhance the MLB with this franchise and stop this infighting between owners. Sell to Music City LLC and we will cement Rob Manfred’s legacy forever!
Oakland.
Padres are not relocating anywhere.
That is lawsuilt mumbo jumbo bullsheet.
The Padres have an ironclad contract in San Diego with Petco Park.
Padres sell out most of their games and draw over 3 million fans per year for their 81 home games.
IF Padres tried to relocate, MLB and the Padres would Defendants in the biggest sports lawsuit ever.
Where could they move this team to if relocation was an option?
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That’s why I was suspicious of the original lawsuit. It took years for the As to get out of a terrible stadium with no fan support. It feels almost impossible that SD would be allowed to relocate, and almost impossible to find a better fanbase.
Those fans deserve better
The NL would never approve the Padres leaving San Diego. Great stadium and strong fan support of between 2 and 3 million plus each season. Absolutely no valid reason to relocate the team.
Sheel mentioned the brothers relocating the team as a possibility.
She did that to gain pr support from the fans. She knows the San Diego community would be triggered by that remark given how the chargers left.
The brothers have said they have never considered such a move.
She should be ashamed of herself for that PR stunt.
Sheel has played on padres fans hearts. It’s worked very well. Most padres fans want her to win. It doesn’t help that the brothers haven’t spent any money since taking over control.
Sounds like sheels ask for 20m a year to go away. That’s not a great sign that she is the right person for the job. Was also reported sheel approved of John taking over the team back in March of last year.
The issue here is the brothers have done a lot to prevent her from accessing the money in the trust. Including not finding parts of it she is entitled to.
The brothers don’t respect her and have said some nasty things about her. This has turned personal. Nothing I’ve read has sounded like the brothers have been operating in good faith which they are required to do given she is the sole beneficiary of the trust.
I don’t trust either side of this. Both seem to be fighting over control of the padres and the money in the trust.
I hope it end with the team being sold, sooner the better. Just hope some cheap owner doesn’t buy it.
Rich people problems.
“so much drama in the S.D.P.”
— Snoop Dogg (kinda)
Sad that in the shadow of a great owner, the post-Seidler-death Padres administration has devolved into this.
Power and money……
Said owner was in charge for only a couple of years. He is beloved because he overspent, and built something definitely exciting but absolutely unsustainable. By mid ‘23 the team was deeply in debt and had to be bailed out by the Seidler trust.
He made a splash, but I can’t agree he was a great owner.
Fair enough, but I was referring to his commitment to winning…so, great from the fans perspective.
But, I do understand what you’re saying.
I don’t think you understand how General Partnerships work. If there was a deficit, all partners are required to kick in and pay that debt each and every year. You cannot delay that. Its not something that can be carried over year to year. It has to be squared up before the following year. Its called a cash call.
If Matt and Rob Seidler lent the rest of the ownership that money out of the Peter Seidler Revocable Trust, they were paying off debt that the Trust didn’t hold. That opens up a huge number of other questions. What are the terms of repayment by the other owners. When will it be repaid? Was it done with the written consent of the beneficiary of the trust as required by California law?
Also, the team borrowed that money to pay the city for the land at Tailgate Park and to complete the $20 million renovation of the stadium in what is now called Gallagher Square. We know what the loan was for because it was nearly to the penny what those two things cost and because the $50 million loan that MLB approved was from Ascendent Capital, not the Peter Seidler Revocable Trust. cisterra.com/tailgatepark So what did the Seidler Brothers borrow that money from the trust to pay?
If the Padres were $100 million upside down at $291 million in CBT payroll/$257 million in 26 man payroll, why are Kutsenda and Greupner saying that where they are now is sustainable when they are at at $246 million CBT and $207.9 million 26 man payrolls?
So many questions.
There is an old saying that rings so true in all this. Common sense isn’t common.
You’re entitled to your opinion however wrong it is
He was a great owner
Brought hope back to San Diego after decades of mid years and said idc what the cost is bring a championship to sd.
You’d rather have the A’s owner Pirates owner or Cubs owner?
People complain about owners not spending enough and when someone like Seider comes along spends like a mad man hoping to win you still complain.
Seider was a great owner. He actually cared about his team and city not his profits.
Opinions can’t be wrong. That’s what makes them opinion. They can be different than yours. They may be ill informed. But an opinion is simply stating what one believes, and only that person knows what they believe.
Oh opinions can certainly be wrong.
Colin Kaepernick praising Fidel Castro for “education policies” was definitely a wrong opinion considering he killed millions of their parents.
He was definitely a great owner let me tell you why. Besides all of his off the field work with homelessness.
Peter took an approach to counter the small market narrative. He went with a build it and they will come approach. He spent money, push the level of spending beyond what many ever thought was possible and maybe it was too much. At the same time the padres the last three years have become revenue payers for the first time in their history.
All that while unfortunately losing their tv deal that would be paying them 60m a year. That’s nothing compared to the dodgers but a lot more than they are getting now. Which has caused some of the issues with spending.
Any owner who is willing to risk losing money to build a championship caliber team is a great owner. Even if it has yet to pay off. The last 5 years of being a padre fan have been some of the best years ever. I get it’s not a high bar. Go to San Diego that place is all brown and gold. Go downtown before a game the entire area is booming.
Peter is as beloved in San Diego as you can get. Unfortunately the now fight for control is just making the Seidler family tarnish his legacy.
The padres at this moment have a payroll over 212m and a tax number above 246m. All while not having a tv deal (340m the dodgers get yearly). It’s truly amazing the heights Peter brought this club to.
Simm, the TV contract was paying the Padres $51 per year in 2023. That came out in the bankruptcy case.
Sad and very predictable.
Money, Power, Greed
Brings out the worst in people.
Control over a $5 billion trust will do that.
The lawyer making a baseball-related pun in his response is super cringe. Makes me think he’s a charlatan and Sheel is in the wrong. I don’t think serious lawyers make stupid jokes in legal responses, at least the kind of lawyers that win cases based on merit and not in a PR war.
The comment from the lawyer does feel like it’s coming from a losing side.
LOL! I thought the identical thing. It made him sound like a clown. Just on the surface, the Brothers response sounded much more reasonable. If Peter changed his will 7x, and never made Sheel a trustee, and specifically precluded her from even being a successor trustee, it doesn’t sound like she has any shot at all.
Why has Matt Seidler not submitted those documents to the court? He has talked about them to the media twice now. No court data showing he has submitted them as evidence in the lawsuit. Why?
She hired Saul !
They are trying to get the brothers to litigate it in public. It will give them an advantage in front of a judge if the brothers start disclosing fine details…
If your case is that weak that you have to editorialize
and cannot rely on the facts and evidence presented
(if any)
then you may be bluffing and playing a losing hand.
We should eliminate school lunches, cancer research, meat inspections and health care for veterans to make sure these people don’t pay taxes.
Was this in response to something someone wrote?
Joe B — I think 66 is quoting Karl Marx.
Or possibly Richard Marx.
Groucho Marx
Or Harpo Marx.
Honk honk is what Harpo would say.
This could be Angelos family 2.0
or the McCourt Dodgers saga 2.0
Get some of these “flush” potential buyers on “speed dial”
1) Irwin Jacobs
2) Steve Ballmer
3) Stan Kroenke
John Angelos 😀
It has already gone down the nasty road.
Did you read about the big blowout during the playoffs last year?!
Apparently, according to local news reports, the Seidler Bros packed the Owners Suite with their family and friends.
Sheel Seidler shows up with her kids.
She starts openly and loudly discussing their dirty laundry in front of
everyone in the suite including guests and employees who had no need to know.
The Seidler bros had Sheel escorted out of the Suite and
over to the Owner’s box seats by the dugout because Sheel had become very loud and disruptive?!
The Padres Ownership battle is looking more and more
like the nasty; open and public divorce of the McCourts
from each other and then from the Dodgers.
It is difficult for me to believe both sides have complete copies of the fully executed trust and see things this oppositely.
Would love an actual attorney’s perspective.
Halos, go to the Travis County Probate Court website and look at what documents have been submitted as evidence. Sheel Seidler’s attorneys have submitted hundreds of pages of documents into evidence. Matt and Robert Seidler have none unless they were submitted after Monday morning’s session and have not showed up in court data yet. The SKMC filing asking for a portion of the lawsuit to be heard by an arbitrator in California is listed, but that is not Matt or Robert Seidler. That is Eric Kutsenda,. The K in SKMC. While SKMC has filed that motion, it has not filed supporting documents yet showing that they requested an arbitration case.
Matt has released 25 pages of what is supposedly a court filing that cannot be found on the court docket. The press got it, but not the court?
Thanks. That is interesting and probably telling.
This seems like a matter that could be resolved by a court reading the full trust. I’m sure it is written with clear instructions.
Sheel also said the brothers would give her access to the trust. So I am not sure she has seen everything in it. Despite multiple request on her end. She also claims there are aspects of the trust that the bros are required to fund for her that haven’t been funded. With them saying they can’t because of debt on the trust.
I don’t like sheel pr stunt and I think she has inflamed the situation but it also sounds like the bros are trying to cut her out. It’s very hard to side with the bros but I also am not sure sheel wants anything but money as well.
That’s why I am currently team sell. All this crap is not helping the team.
The brothers deserve a chance imo. I understand you are all conditioned to the high life and fearful of going back to the low, but someone has to balance the books first. If Pete wanted them in charge, it wouldn’t kill you to give them a decent crack at it. Show a little bit of understanding towards the difficulty of their position. Your call though. You are the one watching them every day.
Eric Kutsenda, who is the control person of the team right now, said that the Padres would have a payroll somewhere between 2023 and 2024 in 2025. Where that falls exactly is yet to be seen, but they are just under the halfway point between those two which is $259 million in CBT payroll and $217 million 40-man payroll. He said that was a level the Padres could maintain.
Erik Greupner, who is the CEO of the Padres echoed those numbers later in the same week. He said that level of payroll was sustainable.
If Peter had wanted his brothers to be in control of the Padres he would have made sure they could be by selling them enough shares as part of his final wishes to have a controlling interest. Instead, he made sure those shares were in the Trust of which Sheel Seidler is the sole beneficiary,
That they admittedly lent themselves $50 million out of the trust is shady enough. That they did so without the beneficiary’s permission may be criminal.
Then we find out that Robert and his wife are Dodgers season ticket holders and regularly attend games there but were only seen at a Padres game for the playoffs this season and that is a major red flag in terms of their intentions for the Padres.
Those are not people I want in charge of the team I root for.
Time will tell if they are held accountable for fraud in relations to the trust and that may very well take a long time. Although Texas acts relatively quickly compared to California. It won’t be years, just months. As of today, a receiver was or is being appointed by the court over the trust. Matt Seidler is no longer trustee. John Seidler will not become control person for the time being because the temporary injunction was granted.
Slam Diego
About time they ran out some defence. Might be too late for them though. Feels like the court of public opinion has locked in their verdict. Tough spot for the boys.
For sure.
Like Peter said can’t take it with you! Poof up in smoke lawyers are gonna win
Darragh, I notice that you didn’t post in full or even in part what Sheel Seidler said in response to questions from the San Diego Union Tribune, but you did post Matt Seidler’s response to her that was quoted in that Athletic article in great detail. Is that good journalism?
The article in the Athletic says he filed a response on Monday, but there is nothing on the Travis County Probate court dockets that say he did. The site says they are updated every 24 hours. Maybe he filed it after hours? He didn’t file it prior to the session with Judge Chu on Monday morning.
But he DID manage to give it to reporters. Interesting.
This is all Bob’s fault. You know that evil spirit was set free when David Lynch died evacuating the Hollywood Hills during the wildfires.
What a mess. Peter tried best he could to bring WS trophy to San Diego before he died. Where are they gonna find as ardent baseball fans as in San Diego ? It’s 7th largest city in US plus w/Clippers n Chargers up the road Pads are only game in town. Fans deserve better.
I love Profar stating this legal battle factored into the decision to sign with Atlanta. When SD doesn’t make you an offer, was that even a consideration? How many other teams that didn’t offer him a contract did he ponder about?
Yeah that didn’t make a lot of sense. The padres never gave him an offer or at least not one close to the Braves. Perhaps he is saying the ownership issues is the reason they didn’t.
Either way not many around San Diego think paying him 14m a year was a good idea. They love Profar but not 3x14m kind of love.
His agent said that the Padres gave him an offer, just much less than the Braves. His agent said $24 million. I heard $8 million with a mutual or player option for a 2nd season at $16 million.
I found it intriguing that no other teams were mentioned. Just the Padres and Braves.
If the Trust documents that have been disclosed are true,
(naming the brothers as trustees and control person and never mentioning Sheel) then I am , not sure how strong of a case Sheel has).
There has to be much more to this story that has not been disclosed yet.
Supposedly sheel also sign a document in 2020 saying she would never become the chairperson of the padres. There are some disputes on whether or not that is still legally binding.
Sheel also submitted a hand written letter from Peter listing who should be in charge if he died. That paper had her listed on top. The issue is he changed the trust after that and never named or submitted this paper.
The big issues is she is the sole beneficiary of the trust which means the bros are required to run the trust with her best interest in mind. Which she said they haven’t. That’s why you see the mention of them saying comments about the fraud she accused them of.
Yes. We’re obviously getting what’s filtered from both sides.
Just find out how healthy Peter and Sheel’s marriage was then we’ll know who’s lying, Sheel or Matt.
Why would the brothers want to leave San Diego when they were fourth in MLB attendance? Much of what she’s saying makes little sense, and if things are as reported, she has little legal chance. Maybe she wants a buyout.
As for Profar, he went where he got the money.
Would take at least 3 decades, 2 new ownership groups and them REALLY failing to upkeep Petco Park during that time for the idea of relocation to even become not-laughable.
I beg your pardon? The only person I have muted is “padreforlife”
That was one sentence in a 100+ page lawsuit and that sentence said “sell or move”. It is realistically the least important sentence in the entire filing.
I’m having a hard time buying what Mrs. Seidler is selling.
Behind a paywall, but here it is.
sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/01/27/differing-acco…
“Sheel Seidler’s claim that she had a substantial role in decision-making for the Padres is what has surprised many familiar with the operation of the team.
Almost every person interviewed for this story — nearly 20 people, all of whom were in a position to have some knowledge of the Padres’ business and/or baseball operations in recent years and the majority of whom have no current affiliation with the Padres or the Seidler family — either said that Sheel Seidler never had a role in operating the Padres or said they were unaware of any influence or input she might have had.”
It seems like she is trying to force something that isn’t there. Also, adding the incendiary accusations of alleged name-calling does not advance her argument. It just attacks her opponents’ character. You don’t need to resort to that when the facts are on your side. They’re not, minus one note from Peter he apparently took no further action to act upon (i.e. that he wanted Sheel to be in charge, which is not reflected anywhere else in legal paperwork Peter oversaw the preparation of).
Peter Seidler either wanted Sheel to be in charge, or he wanted his kids to be in charge. The preponderance of the evidence indicates it’s the former. Meanwhile, the franchise has a black eye and lost out on Sasaki, so Mrs. Seidler could force something that isn’t there. Yes, maybe Sasaki would have picked the Dodgers anyway. But he specifically cited their organizational stability as having been a deciding factor. So, thanks Sheel.
It’s too bad. I hope this unfortunate episode somehow concludes promptly.
“The preponderance of the evidence indicates it’s the former.”
“the latter”, that should read.
It feels like her lawyer made a couple of mistakes. Trying to suggest that she had any role whatsoever, without support, and then suggesting that the brothers wanted to move the team, which seems impossible, really undermines whatever legitimate claims she might have. And the BB quip in his response feels like an amateur response.
I read the response yesterday, or at least 90% of it. It feels like the brothers have a solid case here. Peter had a pre-nup and Sheel got what was in it. It doesn’t look like Peter wanted her to have anything to do with the Padres, or else he’d have put that in his will. Sheel has no discernible connection to the Padres, other than being married to the owner.
She might be able to squeeze some more spending money out of the trust, but I see no way she gets any control or input into the Padres operations.
Yeah. I don’t expect her to be the control person of the Pads.
I’d expect with how ugly this is that the team is ultimately sold. I’d be shocked if the 2 sides can coexist in the long term.
The notion of a middle aged Mum diving into the world of MLB ownership was always far fetched to me. She’s got plenty of living to do. Chasing Peter’s dream is a lovely story, but seemed to be just that right from the get go. Just had a feel of “give me money to go away and do it now. Otherwise I’m going to damage you irreparably”