Just when it seemed like Alex Bregman’s time with the Astros was nearing an end, reports surfaced earlier this week that Houston’s six-year, $156MM offer to the third baseman from earlier in the offseason remained open, and that the club was perhaps considering a scenario that would see Jose Altuve move to left field, Isaac Paredes installed at second base, and Bregman back in his old spot at the hot corner.
Astros GM Dana Brown addressed the situation with MLB.com’s Brian McTagggart and other media members today, saying that the club indeed “had some conversations” with Bregman’s camp, with those talks moving in a “positive” direction. While Brown described re-signing Bregman as “a longshot,” he noted that the door wasn’t closed on the chances of a reunion between the two sides.
“I would say [the door is] cracked,” Brown said. “The fact that he’s still available, it just makes it interesting. Like ’man, this guy is such a good player, he’s done so many wonderful things here.’ We’ll stick with the cracked door and see where our conversations lead.”
Houston almost addressed the third base position by acquiring Nolan Arenado from the Cardinals in December, but Arenado chose to exercise his no-trade clause. While reports later surfaced that Arenado wasn’t entirely adverse to playing in Houston, at the time he had some concerns over the direction of an Astros team that had just a few days earlier traded away another star in Kyle Tucker. However, once Arenado turned down the trade, the Astros pivoted to sign Christian Walker as their new first baseman, and thus Paredes was penciled into the third base slot.
Walker’s signing was officially announced just over a month ago, leaving Bregman as the odd man out in Houston even if the Astros never technically withdrew their original offer. Suitors like the Tigers, Blue Jays, Red Sox, and Cubs have all been linked to Bregman in varying degrees but no deal has been reached, which seems to have led the Astros to circle back. As Brown plainly put it, “we never realized that Bregman would still be on the market at this point.”
Whether Bregman takes that six-year, $156MM offer or the Astros perhaps bump the price a bit to help seal a deal, re-signing Bregman at any price would significantly boost the club’s payroll. As per RosterResource’s projections, the Astros’ projected luxury tax number sits just over $244MM, putting the team above the first tax tier of $241MM. Owner Jim Crane has implied that the Astros are willing to match last season’s $244MM payroll and $262MM tax number, as “it just depends on what players are available.” Re-signing a known quantity like Bregman might well make Crane more comfortable about increasingly spending, though the Astros might also be moving some money off the books soon, if Ryan Pressly (owed $14MM in 2025) waives his no-trade clause to allow a proposed trade to the Cubs.
“Jim Crane has been very positive in terms of what this organization does to win….If we could do something that makes sense for this organization, we’ll do it. If it doesn’t make sense financially, then we probably won’t do it,” Brown said.
lol to the team that signs him long term. Hopefully it’s the Jays or Tigers.
Let’s put a lid on the Bregman rumors
Sure, once he signs somewhere.
Hopefully him and the Astros can bang it out.
Bregman would only sign if trash can lids are included in the deal
Now THAT’S original.
Never forget.
Clowning the Astros is so easy that it almost feels like cheating.
His days of slugging .500 went out with 2020 trash
his past has caught up to him.
He should take the Stros money and call it a day
It is the only place he will be welcomed.
Bregman will be welcomed by any team that wants to upgrade their lineup and third base position. There is a difference between returning to the Astros or signing with one of the other teams in that eventually Bregman’s performance will be in a major decline, and if he is with the Astros, the fans and media will be sad, but they will still give him applause, will still love him, and will still be kind to him. The fans and the media of the other teams will not tolerate a decline, and they may even be nasty towards him even if he plays decently but their teams do not win.
Not the Yankees.
Nonsense. If the NYY are serious about winning they would welcome Bregman with open arms and be glad to have him. He would be a massive upgrade at 3rd, and allow Chisholm to move back to 2nd or SS. He would also be a monster postseason bat in their lineup.
He would not be “welcomed” by the Yankees players or fans, which was what the commenter claimed. He might be all the things that you said, but he will not be “welcome” in the Bronx until after he did something to help bring home a WS. I didn’t say he wouldn’t be good or even that the Yankees are not interested, just that he won’t be “welcomed”.
You, the fan wouldn’t welcome him but the Yankees, the professional athletes would welcome him if he made their team better.
Obviously fans are going to dislike him because he was with Houston but major leaguers don’t have the same mentality as fans and that stuff is ancient history to them. They’re only worried about what can you do for me now.
Judge will not welcome a player that stole a WS appearance from him. Check into it. The players have not forgotten what was stolen because those chances don’t come along too often. I already said winning a WS would soften the feelings, but he is not “welcomed” in New York. You, the fan, thinks this is ancient history, does not mean that it is. Judge does not want to spend 162 games playing with a complete tool bag because the team looks better on paper. If he comes in like a Josh Donaldson and has no chemistry with his teammates because they hate him, then it won’t matter how much fans like or hate him.
You’re confused, but at least you are amusing.
The NYY were NEVER going to the WS in 2017. Yell and spit all you want. Fact is NYY scored a TOTAL of three (3) Runs in four (4) Gams in that ALCS in HOU. THREE! That wasn’t trash cans or cameras or any of that. That was Astros pitching shutting down a very poor, one dimensional NYY offense. Not a situational hitter in the bunch. HRs or bust! And Judge can squalk all the wants, but he wasn’t MVP either. He completely disappeared offensively in July and August that year. Couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. Been listening to the NYY whine and cry about those mean old Astros knocking them out of the postseason for years. 2015, 2017, 2019, 2022 (Sweep!). “We want Houston!” Remember that? Yeah well they got Houston. And they got SWEPT! And it never gets old. Astros live rent free in their heads. Get a better GM. Get a better Mgr. Get some players with heart and grit and that can make contact and move runners. Do better. Bunch of entitlement NY pansies.
I applaud Bob Nutting for refusing to pay that clown.
This is a leverage play by Boras.
Probably right. The move doesn’t make sense.
How? Crane himself is quoted and obviously nobody is willing to match or beat that offer.
Find a way! Make it happen, Jim Crane!
Please don’t. We have the players to compete in 2025 already.
Nonsense. If Bregman can be had, go get him. They can sort out positions later. Astros w/o Bregman might win the division. But little else. With him they could go deep and win it all.
Sounds like it’s up to Pressly.
It’s a strange spot for the player. He’s been an excellent player for them for a long time and he has the right to say no. It’s weird they are so set on pushing him out the door. His 14M is underwater, but I think he’ll be a useful player next year. I wish the Astros would just let him finish his contract.
He can do that if he wants to as a 5/10 guy. All I’m saying is that Houston won’t do the Bregman deal without the cap space freed up by trading Pressly. Not much incentive for him to leave, nor is there much for the Cubs to try and persuade him so it’s likely that he stays put and Bregman moves on.
This just seems strange to me. His market doesn’t seem to be where he wants it to be. Why not take what’s on the table…if it really is on the table. $6/$156M isn’t going make him shop in Dollar stores?
At this point, it’s his ego and his agent, which is fine but no one is biting, so he can continue to wait out the market. Tigers aren’t backing down, and the Astros gave him a pretty good offer. He’s not worth 200 million, his 2024 slash line was down and it’s hard to bank on him having another few seasons like 2023.
I really think his heart is in Houston. His wife’s family is here. He was probably hoping Houston would up their offer and it never happened. I agree he’s probably not getting 200 million. Won’t be worth the 156 million by the end of that contract either.
Agreed. Women who marry professional athletes know what they’re signing up for. There are so many people in baseball who have to deal with relocation all the time, but they are not being offered 156M.
I dont feel sorry for any mlb player being offered 6/156 on the wrong side of 30. Bregman has to be a complete moron to go to another team when the Stros are the organization he has known and his family his established there. To me leaving $30-40 million on the table to stay put is well worth the reduced salary but Bregman is not a $30 million per avv player anymore. This is a classic Boras overreaching screwing his client.
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Agreed. Women who marry professional athletes know what they’re signing up for.
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This is almost identical to the Freeman situation. If they completely low-ball you like LL did with Lester, sure, you leave.
But for Bregman, it’s borderline pathetic. We’re talking about the difference between career earnings of $250M v maybe $260M.
I’m not sure he’d even notice the difference in his portfolio.
I’d be guessing the offer from the Astros will be the best he will see. I mean, $26M per year!?! He’s not worth that much annually to any team, except maybe on a one year deal.
After the trade with the Cubs, I doubt Houston even wants to commit to 6 years any longer. Your correct, ‘his ego and his agent’.
There is a difference between what was offered 2 months ago (when the number of FA was double as were the suitors ) and now . If Astros do have a deal pending the price won’t be higher it will be significantly lower . Bregman over played his hand by refusing (ditto for Alonso)
If the Tigers, Red Sox, or Cubs significantly outbid Houston, then there would be nothing to loop back on. Red Sox and Cubs both reportedly want Bregman on a shorter term deal, and my guess is that so do the Tigers.
I’ve watched the AL West games for years. Bregman is the real deal. I’m surprised he isn’t signed.
It’s simple. What you watched is his past. What teams right now are looking at is what to expect from his future. And they’re not seeing him being the same player he was in the past.
Wouldn’t mind seeing Astros get Bregman and then trade Paredes to the Tigers.
Someone mentioned that in the Pressly article comments yesterday and I like that idea as well Styme. Paredes never really got a chance to play in Detroit before the Meadows trade. He would be a good addition to the offence and wouldn’t handcuff them with that huge contract like Bregman will.
Perfect example of shameless reporting
Taking Jung out of this equation, if Veirling played a full season at 3rd what couldn’t he bring in ’25 that Bregman could?
Playing at Comerica id pin Bregman for .270, 20, 75. Veiling. 255, 18, 65.
Bregman would bring the intangibles though as far as experience, playoff experience, and leadership. He’s defensively superior. On the other hand Veirling is playing for peanuts and can play multiple positions including OF.
Synopsis: let Bregman sign elsewhere.
Why settle for mediocre when there’s a quality player available
Tigers can easily afford bregman they are just too cheap to make a deal
He would immediately be the best player on the tigers, him and Riley, although riley needs to prove he can play a full season
Bregman checks all the boxes for what the tigers have been needing for the last couple of seasons
A legit 3rd baseman and a righty bat with some pop, even if bregman doesn’t hit 25 homers again, he’s still productive and could do damage in the big comerica park gaps
Vierling is a utility bench player on a better teasm, bregman is a game changer
It’s not that simple though. Listen, it’s not my money but my team is gun shy spending what they have. I’d rather get Flaherty and Alonzo for 3 yrs and avoid Bregmans 5 or 6. One player isn’t going to make us a WS contender.
I like Bregman but not gor the length of contract he wants. Like you I think they should look at other options. Let Jung/Vierling play is one, trade Tork for someone like Baty and see if he can stick or my favorite start with Jung/Vierling and sign Kim who is insurance (or an upgrade) at both 3B and SS, at worst is a better version of McKinistry and fills the need for a leadoff hitter who gets in base.
I agree. Bregman wants 6 years cause that’ll be his last big contract. 2 or 3 years he’s going to be 32, 33 yrs old and won’t get it then unless he suddenly hits like he did 5 yrs ago. I just don’t see that happening. I like Kim, but imo if we don’t get Bregman for 3, 4 max, I wouldn’t want anyone else than Jung/Veirling. If we start with Jung and he’s a bust but we’re contending in July, we can possibly upgrade our needs then. Unfortunately if no Bregman, which isnt that “power” bat, we still need a power right handed bat. I think we should switch gears to Alonzo. He could hit 30.
Kim is a good backup for potential failures at 3B and SS and at worst a better version of McKinistry who can be a Swiss army knife and leadoff hitter. I think SS is more likely to be the biggest issue vs 3B and he is an upgrade there for sure. Kim 100% fits the lineup.
A big bat with power would be nice but they do have guys who are a good bet to hit 20 plus HRs now (Greene, Carp, Torres) with many others with the potential to exceed that (Keith, Rogers, Meadows). Jung, Tork and Malloy have the power to get to 20 HRs too if they get enough at bats and Baez used to (which seems to be a million years ago now). Internal growth should add more power. Alonso takes Malloy and Tork out of the equation and forces Carp to be an OF full time which opens him up to increased injury (unless they shift Keith to the OF and let Malloy play 1B). Carp and Greene are absolutely essential to keep in the lineup if the Tigers are going to be successful.
100% agree they should go get Flaherty as well.
Your making alot of sense… only prob with Carp is that he can’t hit lefties and gets subbed every other game or PHs when a lefty starts. I’d give up on wanting a power bat if Carp could play full games and hit lefties.
Malloy and Tork seem to be the current options to cover that off (in terms of people on the roster). If Malloy continues to hit like he did in the playoffs he definitely should get more at bats! Cheers dude.
Keith can hit lefties thankfully. But yeah, I dig Malloy off the bench. Tork- let’s start him in Toledo and see if he’s even needed. Cheers to you as well, have a great weekend.
I think they should take the Bregman money and get Flaherty and Grichuk
Good call
Md7496
Tigers can easily afford bregman they are just too cheap to make a deal
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That’s not how spending really works. Which would you prefer?
A-Vierling/Jung + Flaherty, or
B-Bregman + Maeda (or whoever is your #5)
I’ll go with C- Flaherty and Alonzo
Can Paredes play second? Why not just move him to left?
Astros need to offer eight years / $160 million but with enough deferred money that the contract can be called 8/200 by Boras and the media. Real cost to Astros is about the same as 6/156 with less impact on CBT. Boras and Bregman can claim they got the $200 million contract they wanted.
Future money is worth less, not more.
Deferred money is not future money. It is current money plus interest earned over the deferral period. It is how Ohtani’s $446 million dollar contract became a $700 million dollar contract
“Arenado wasn’t entirely adverse to playing in Houston,”
The correct word here is ‘averse’ not ‘adverse’.
The correct word here is ‘averse’ not ‘adverse’.
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When I am elected president, I will eliminate one of those words. They have almost identical spellings and meanings.
Teams are wising up. Majority of baseball players are washed up by age 33-34. There are some exceptions of course. But it’s a gamble to sign them for BIG MONEY after that. FACT
Perfect example for Detroit should be the Javier Baez deal 6 years 140 mil. There were red flags from an aging star and they signed him out of pure need. 6 years and current market rate of 156+ mil for Bregman should scare any team especially Detroit. Odds that he makes good on a 6 year deal deal with above average production are very slim.
If the offer is really still on the table he would be an idiot not to take it. Take the dough and play in the Playoffs every year and who knows how many World Series he might play in.
Far too many cooked free agents this year. Let them go play in Mexico with Bauer. Not worth the investment.
I don’t know why it would be a longshot when no other team is meeting his demands. I’m assuming Alex has hard feelings that they won’t give him what he wants and rather go elsewhere for less.
How do you have a positive talk but still call it a longshot?
Dana Brown is one of the most egregious DEI hire in the league.
The thing about Brown is that you know when his lips are moving, he is talking crap.
The Astros think Altuve is Craig Biggio and he can just move to the Outfield?
As the new guy i would probably have Paredes learning an OF corner before asking a potential future Hall of Famer to move
I think that’s just an overzealous reporter creating a buzz. Brown didn’t address Altuve changing positions
Altuve has already said that nobody has spoken to him about such a move.
Are the Astros this opposed to Alvarez in left?
I think it’s more to do with Alvarez’ recovery from knee surgery than opposition of him playing there. They need that big lefty bat in the lineup, especially if Bregman does in fact leave as Alvarez, Walker, and Paredes have to replace Bregman/Tucker’s production
The Astros want him back, but just like every team, have a limit in mind.
Alex thought it was in pencil and found out it is in sharpie.
The reason Pressly would be traded is to open salary space for Bregman. So trading him increases, not decreases the chances.
I don’t blame Alex at all for not wanting to be a FA at 34 or older. And there is not much chance he has more value next season at 32 than now at 31.
Boras has been very clear that they are not interested in shorter deals, but the longer he remains unsigned, the shorter the offers become.
The Astros only have 6 MLB worthy hitters on the roster, and there are simply no other impact players left.
I fully expect them to figure it out before February, but trading Pressly must be the first step.
This is a case of wanting to be paid for what they’ve done versus wanting to pay for what they’ll do
“adverse”
Actually, Arenado wasn’t entirely *averse* to playing for Houston.
That is probably the most ill-informed comment of the day.
Longshot? What is bregman smoking. He’s not getting that contract offer anywhere else.
I see no way the Astros keep him. Everything they’ve done was to get under the cap, while maintaining a team capable of finishing 1st. I’d bet that the Astros trade away payroll (probably Pressly).
And just a few hours later, they are under the cap.