The Dodgers and left-hander Tanner Scott are in agreement on a four-year, $72MM deal according to a report from Mark Feinsand of MLB.com. According to Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic, Scott’s deal includes deferred money and a signing bonus. Robert Murray of FanSided reports that the signing bonus is $20MM while the contract includes $21MM in deferred money.
Scott was ranked as the #14 free agent in this winter’s class in MLBTR’s annual Top 50 MLB Free Agents list, where we predicted that the lefty would land a four-year, $56MM deal. His deal with L.A. comes in well above that mark, but that’s not necessarily surprising given reports earlier this month that indicated Scott could land a deal with an average annual value in the $20MM range. Ultimately, this deal doesn’t go quite that far, though his $18MM AAV is still quite the premium for his position. According to MLBTR’s Contract Tracker, Scott is tied for the third-highest AAV for a reliever in free agent history alongside Liam Hendriks’s deal with the White Sox with the pair trailing only Edwin Diaz and Josh Hader. Meanwhile, it’s the fifth-highest total guarantee a reliever has ever landed in free agency behind only Diaz, Hader, Aroldis Chapman, and Kenley Jansen.
The $21MM in deferred money in the deal could lower the contract’s net present value below this tier of elite closer, but it’s hard to deny that Scott belongs in that elite company based on his incredible numbers the past two seasons. He was among the very best relievers in the sport last year with a 1.75 ERA, 2.92 FIP, and a 28.6% strikeout rate. His peripheral numbers were even stronger in 2023, as he struck out an eye-popping 33.9% of opponents and posted a 2.31 ERA with a 2.17 FIP. Among qualified relievers over the past two seasons, Scott ranks fourth in ERA and fifth in FIP. Only Félix Bautista of the Orioles and Cade Smith of the Guardians rank above Scott in both categories, and neither pitched in both the 2023 and ’24 seasons at the big league level.
Of course, that doesn’t mean Scott is necessarily completely infallible. The southpaw struggled badly with his command earlier in his career, and those issues were a key factor in the lefty surrendering a pedestrian 4.61 ERA and 3.91 FIP over his first six seasons in the majors. That’s left Scott without the lengthy track record of many of his peers in late-inning relief, and even this past season saw Scott walk 12.2% of his opponents. Scott managed to stay elite despite that hefty number of free passes by keeping the ball in the park the past two seasons, and the changes he’s made to improve his batted ball outcomes appear to be sustainable. Opponents barreled up 5.4% of their batted balls off Scott prior to the 2023 season, but the past two campaigns have seen that number drop to just 4.0%. Likewise, Scott’s Hard-Hit rate dropped from 36.2% in his career prior to 2023 down to just 26.7% over the past two seasons.
The Dodgers are clearly betting on his performance to remain as elite as it has been the past two seasons. L.A. got an up-close look at Scott’s dominance during last season’s NLDS, when he pitched three scoreless innings against the club for the Padres and garnered five strikeouts- four of which were against Shohei Ohtani. Looking ahead to the 2025 season, they’ll add Scott’s high-octane arm to an already strong bullpen that also features Michael Kopech, Evan Phillips, Blake Treinen, and Alex Vesia in the late innings. With Scott presumably taking over as the club’s closer, the Dodgers will now have the flexibility to use those leverage arms earlier in the game. That’s particularly useful in the case of Vesia, as he was the Dodgers’ only late-inning relief option from the left side last season.
Per RosterResource, the signing of Scott has pushed the Dodgers’ payroll for 2025 up to just under $369MM, with a nearly matching luxury tax payroll of just under $371MM. Those figures don’t factor in the deferred money in Scott’s contract, but that still puts the Dodgers’ payroll for 2025 more than $40MM higher than 2024, which was already a franchise record. They’re the only team spending even $300MM in payroll this year, and one of just three teams (alongside the Phillies and Yankees) with a luxury tax payroll above that marker. The upper limit on the club’s payroll capacity is unknown, but signing Scott (and Roki Sasaki last week) appear to have checked the final boxes the Dodgers were known to be pursuing upgrades for this winter. While further upgrades to the roster certainly can’t be ruled out, the club’s roster has very little uncertainty and it would hardly be a surprise if the Dodgers mostly stood pat over the final weeks before Spring Training beyond perhaps a long-anticipated deal to bring franchise stalwart Clayton Kershaw back into the fold.
With Scott off the market, right-handers Carlos Estévez and Kirby Yates are perhaps the two best options still available in free agency for clubs on the hunt for bullpen help. Jansen, David Robertson, Kyle Finnegan, and Tommy Kahnle are among the other late-inning relief arms available. The Red Sox, Braves, and Cubs were among the other teams that have been connected to Scott throughout the winter, while the Rangers and Diamondbacks are among other clubs known to be in the market for late-inning relief help at this point in the offseason.
TAKERDBACKS
GIVE ME A BREAK!
mlbnyyfan
LOL. Why even play the season?? I’m at least hoping for a rematch in the WS. WS could have a different outcome. Freeman won’t have another WS like that again. So anything is possible.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
innings 1-5
(Snell, Yamamoto, Glasgow, Roki, Ohtani or Kersh)
6 Phillips
7 Treinan
8 Kopech
9 Tanner Scott
Whew!
Unclemike1526
Hoyer sucks it again. News at 10.or 11. Whatever
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Mike
Would you have supported Jed if he offered Tanner Scott five years at $18 million? I would have not.
Unclemike1526
He certainly could have afforded the deal he got. The mice in Jed’s head won’t let him pull off a deal like that. His sphincter would tighten up and there isn’t enough Dulcolax to free it up.
Gmaytag
It’s not Hoyer it’s the Dodgers throwing money at everybody. Oh yeah the Cubs could have offered more but then the Dodgers go higher, it never ends. Dodgers better enjoy it while they can because when the CBA runs out after ‘26 they’ll be screwed.
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Mike
If the Dodger offered four years and $18, Cubs needed to exceed it not match it.
The price just went up for Estevez and Yates, but not that high.
16
Mike, give it a rest, Jed is only able to spend what Ricketts authorizes, like any business. Nobody has a TV deal like the Dodgers, and seemingly endless supply of cash. You can keep complaining, but Cubs aren’t the only ones losing out to the Dodgers on these guys and if the Cubs sign Yates it’s all for naught.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Cubs. So close! Still gunning for the world series tho. Future is bright
MarioP
Don’t forget Vesia or Graterol when he is back. Also Brasier and Banda are decent middle relivers.
Calsurf
Don’t forget about May. He’s in there somewhere.
Psychguy
Maybe it’s not all about the money. Maybe dude wants a legit chance to win? There are billionaire owners who are sitting on their hands, why not criticise them? So far, I’ve not heard that the Dodgers are breaking any rules.
flagga
Defer Defer Defer! The majority of states are not allowed to do it. The Dodgers are taking advantage of a loop hole that MLB refuses to shut down. It is on MLB!!! I have the Dodgers and Dave Roberts. Nothing we can do
Swingandamiss
Agreed. It will be 20 something teams vs 10 in the next CBA bc of the Dodgers and Mets actions these past three offseasons. When the RSNs collapsed, the nightmare scenario played out.
Unclemike1526
16-He still has 45 million to spend to get to the Tax. So how did Ricketts stop him exactly?
NickTheDev
Glasgow is a Detroit Lion, I think you meant Glasnow…
Also they will use May and Gonsolin to start the year, then once Ohtani is healthy one of them gets kicked to the pen, and then once Kershaaw is ready in July (if he resigns) then the other one also goes to the pen.
But of course here will be injuries too.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
That starting rotation will not be healthy all year, true that
Denden
Innings 1-4: Sasaki, Yamamoto, Ohtani, Snell, Glasnow
Innings 5-8: Gonsolin, May, Miller, Kershaw, Knack
Innings 9: whatever reliever based on score/usage
BadMojo
Tom Ricketts just said that his goal isn’t a WS , it’s for the Cubs to break even every year. LOL being a Cubs fan must be the worst feeling.
jolf
Hard to believe that some folks will invest hundreds of millions and then try to make as much money as they can off that investment.
jolf
We’ll never know. If the Cubs needed the best available and had $19 mil/per to spend, they should have offered it. If he wasn’t that important to the Cubs or they didn’t have that much budgeted, they’ll keep looking. It’s an auction.
Dogbone
@16
Well said.
OldtimeDodger
All teams will be screwed. All players will be screwed. Only owners will make more money.
OldtimeDodger
Some players actually care about playing for a winning team.
avenger65
Unclemike: I didn’t even know the were in the running.
Salzilla
I’ll be honest, I’m not even sure Scott is the best closer of the bunch.
avenger65
Gmaytag: By then it will be too late. The Dodgers already have all these stars locked up for years to come. The CBA isn’t going to change that.
OldtimeDodger
Yankees did the same under Steinbrenner with an unprecedented TV deal. Nothing has changed because of the Yankees and noth9ng will change because of the Dodgers. Yankees did lose and Dodgers will lose too. But win or lose the Bronx Bombers were fun to watch and the same with the Dodgers.
Dogbone
Cubs probably would have had to go to around $20M/per year to get Scott.
OldtimeDodger
Deferring is in the CBA. It is not a loophole. Deferred money must be deposited into an interest bearing escrow account use present value calculations.This lowers luxury tax. Yet Dodgers had highest luxury tax. All owners can do it. Tax laws may differ by state however. Cheap owners who care about the bottom line won’t do it. Dodgers ownership cares about winning.
RO-MACEN
It’s not Hoyer. It’s the Ricketts. Act like a major market in a weakened NLC division.
OldtimeDodger
Yankees did it in the 80’s and 90’s with a lucrative TV contract. It has not changed and will not change. Players want it.
DODGER JR
Thats why your team doesn’t win Mike.
ghostofmookiebetts
Exactly Oldtime. I’m not a dodgers fan but am a fan of baseball above any single team and it sure aa heck will be a blast to watch such a well assembled team. As much as I hated the yankees during those days, I still could appreciate how well built they were and how fun it must’ve been to be a fan.
All this “noise” coming from the tin foil hat and jealous fan types is just, that, noise. I guarantee you if they did a poll among all baseball fans their views would have the smallest slice of the pie chart.
DODGER JR
GM and by then the Dodgers will have won 3 straight WS so I think we will be just fine.
william-2
Anything they have done will be grandfathered. The CBA will reflect the needs of the teams playing at the highest markets, not punish them.
MC Tim C
Dude I’m a Cubs fan and I’m very happy they didn’t spend $18/mil a year for 4 years on a closer. Someone like Yates will be much cheaper and probably close to as effective.
shark stitches
Not much he can do at this point. Everyone will want to play for the Dodgers.
Can we please get a DH?
You can also add May, Gonsolin and Miller into the bullpen during the regular season (if not traded for someone like Helsley).
If everyone is healthy going into the postseason, you then move Kershaw and Roki or Ohtani into the bullpen too. Truly insanely stacked.
avenger65
Theo: What cubs are that? The ones in Iowa?
Fernando P
@Dendon – OMG, they still think they need to add someone else. Estevez, Yates, Helsey.
avenger65
Denden: When does the roster become so full that they’ll have to send some of the players to the minors or fake injuries and put some on the 60 day IL.
avenger65
BadMojo: You might want to set your sights a little bit further south.
Dodger Dog
The Yankees have a strong tv deal too
ImACubsFanSoWhat
They’ll be happy with a 3peat
spudchukar
If I were the Dodger brass, I would explore a trade with the Cards. All that pitching with an average defense. Acquire Arenado and Helsley. Move Muncy to second. Also acquire Iglesias for a sub at SS and 2nd. They would have to eat most of the Arenado contract, and lose a couple of promising prospects, but if you are going all in go all in!
NickTheDev
We don’t want Arenado… Muncy is fine, its 1 more year then we get our big 3B slugger from Japan.
And we have backup infielders so we are fine there.
Our “average infield” will be just fine.
DroppedThirdStrike
They are already all in and nobody wants Arenado.
Ashleyr
The Dodgers now have 27 pitchers for 13 roster slots in 2025. 28 counting Kershaw and only 4 pitchers have minor league options remaining. My question is exactly how will the dodgers squeeze 10 extra pitchers onto a roster that is maxed out at 26. They also have sixteen position players. Will Manfred change the rules so the Dodgers can field a 40 man roster, since they are already over the 40 with 4 extra players. More deferred money is now in play so they can exploit the system for their own benefit. The CBA renewal will have to cap deferred money each season for teams or the Dodgers will continue signing players for 2M a season with 680 million deferred ten years after the players retire. So, that should open the floodgates where the Dodgers MUST put at least 10 pitchers on the waiver wire and still pay their salaries as they play for other teams. They can’t stick them on the IR list either when they aren’t injured. This should be interesting to watch it unfold. lol.
deweybelongsinthehall
It’s the system that has to change. I’m repeating myself but how is this good for baseball? Maybe internationally but not in the U.S. Bowie Kuhn. would again invoke the best interests of the sport of owners would allow it. Deferred money needs to be limited otherwise another Madoff situation can happen. The Dodgers simply expect their future streams to pay the deferred costs. No one anticipated Madoff being a fraud. There also needs to be an international limit per club at least professionally like Japan and S. Korea have. Finally, nothing will work unless owners lose their anti-trust exemption and truly open their books so there can be a floor and hard cap like most other sports. Until MLB becomes a partnership with the players, this will continue. Fans at some point will stop supporting to the degree they have been. Forget the extra wild cards, fans want to believe their team can actually win it.
Ashleyr
Avenger 65. The Dodgers now have an active duty roster of 44 players when they are allowed 26. They have 27 pitchers and only 4 have minor league options remaining. They MUST either trade or waive 10 pitchers since they are only allowed 13 pitcher slots. They have too many players without options and teams will just wait them out, wait for the waiver wire players to hit and then sign them at minimum salaries, forcing the Dodgers to spend millions for players to play for other teams. When they lose Stone, Miller, plus other notable players due to roster restraints, they can’t put the players on IR either unless they are injured. That is called fraud, but I doubt Manfred would do anything to penalize the Dodgers for it. The end of spring training should be very interesting this year to see who the Dodgers are forced to lose. Add Kershaw and they are at 28 pitchers with 13 slots.
Calsurf
To all of those crying about the Dodgers throwing money at everyone.
1. Other owners have more money. They just use their team as an ATM instead of reinvesting.
2. Roki, Ohtani, Snell, Scott, Teo allegedly had higher offers elsewhere. Sometimes it’s about the benefits of where you work and not the top dollar.
3. Wahhh if your team was doing it you wouldn’t be crying. Tell your owners to quit being cheap.
shox1989
I know you all think it’s great what the dodgers are doing but you still need other teams snd if fans lose interest around the league because of this the hold league is hurt. There are many options for entertainment in sports and fans will drift away but when it’s a 10 team league the dodgers can spend 700 million dollars.
UGA_Steve
Oh, get off it. No one is saying they are breaking any rules and owners are being criticized right and left if you pay attention.
What people are stating is that this really isn’t good for baseball and if you are a fan of almost any team outside of a few of the big market teams it is ruining the fun of baseball. That is the gist of most of these posts and there is no way you can argue against them, so you bring out nonsense that just isn’t happening.
As for the players wanting to win, I get that, but I would . state that there should not be a player on the Dodgers who should feel they accomplished anything last year or this year. They only did what they were the obvious favorites to do and nothing more. Zero respect for that.
Scott Kliesen
Maybe it’s MLB & MLB PA forgetting us fans have no interest in watching the Dodgers vs 29 versions of the Washington Generals.
fox471 Dave
Oh please!
Scream_name
Ugh. It’s beyond ridiculous at this point. If I were a Dodgers fan, I’d be embarrassed.
As a Padres fan, I was embarrassed when they added Boegarts to the mix and the paraded Boegarts, Soto, Tatis, and Machado onstage at fan fest.
This is far worse.
MarioP
Dodger fans are furthest thing from embarrassed. They endured years of middling mediocrity under McCourt and Fox ownership, saw several home grown HOFers traded/allowed to walk, and endured years of postseason early exits due to lack of depth. Embarrassed isn’t the word. Elated. Other teams should emulate their all or nothing desire to win.
ernestg1
Dodgers fan here.. Feeling exact opposite of embarrassed.
Unclemike1526
Hoyer’s been crowing all weekend about adding Tucker for 1 year. meanwhile the Dodgers went out and got Snell, Sasaki, Treinen, Scott, Hernandez, Conforto and Kim. Let’s evaluate who had the better off season OK ? Too bad the 1 year of Tucker means absolutely nothing but a compensatory pick in 2026. Meanwhile he signs 2 guys to do the same job the one guy could have done for less money and loses a 40 man space which means he lost Arias, Which was a stupid move on it’s own. Think I’ll take Friedman on this one.
Scream_name
@ernest of course you are. See you later this year in a Padres content YouTube channel comment section gloating and bragging, bro. Can’t wait.
ron_karate
Yep. The Dodgers are finally acting like the behemoth they should’ve been.
Psychguy
Embarrassed with an ownership dedicated to winning while other teams simply are on the side lines. The Halos had how many years of Othani and missed out on capitalizing his international status (i.e., $$). There are other billionaire owners like the dude from the Pirates that don’t act. Criticism should be pointed at the do – nothings. Just because LA is not your team does not make what they are doing wrong.
myaccount2
Friedman has done a better job than 29 other GMs, not just Hoyer, mostly because the Dodgers ownership group has done LIGHT YEARS better than the 29 other ownership groups. As annoying as it is that LA is signing everyone, the penny pinching these owners are doing has to stop. Teams in the middle need to stop crying poor.
green-fields-of-the-mind
Why would anyone be embarrassed of their team accumulating talent? The goal here is still to win games, right?
ernestg1
@Scream I won’t be there. Dodger fans care about the Giants, not the Padres.
oldguyG
Whatever league is broken
coocoo20
Yes other teams have the money to spend but deferring all kinds of money and buying every super star and creating a talent gap of this size is good for dodger fans but bad for baseball because who want to watch baseball to just watch the dodgers win. Exactly dodger fans
bluepelotas
We are not embarrassed.
Scream_name
@ernest hahaha yeah. I’ve been in a Padres Livestream chat a month after the world series listening to Dodgers fans gloat. Like they have nothing better to do with their time. You might not be one of them, but they’re their.
screamer2244
Embarrassed? Nah. They should feel like any championships are tainted though…
Blue Baron
Scream_name: They’re where? They’re THERE.
Blue Baron
screamer2244: You might feel championships are tainted for some reason, but that’s your uninformed opinion and nobody will lose any sleep over it.
Scream_name
@blew my apologies for the typo
ernestg1
@scream there*
avenger65
MarioP: It’s hard to emulate the Dodgers when these top players all want to sign with the. Jumping on the bandwagon, I guess.
avenger65
myaccount2: So right. All of the owners are billionaires and could afford to do what the Dodgers and even the Mets are doing. Cohen and Dodgers ownership open their massive wallets and take winning seriously. Then there’s Reinsdorf, who thinks he can take his billions with him.
bluepelotas
Well said Mario! Besides 24’ WS, all we heard is covid WS not good enough and since 1988 nothing!
F U, definitely not embarrassed.
Unbelievable work by Friedman and staff and other owners should take notes.
Scream_name
@ blue balls we’re all embarrassed for you.
bluepelotas
Scream is what you do a lot and you are use to be being embarrassed.
As a Dodger fan I am not embarrassed because I control nothing they do.
I truly love baseball more and taking my son to a game or two is going to be very entertaining.
screamer2244
Yeah, it’s just baseball so no sleep should be lost. Still tainted though.
deweybelongsinthehall
Ratings were fine in 24 because of the markets. No disrespect meant but what happens if Cleveland, Minnesota or Seattle wins the AL in 25? National ratings will tank.
LordD99
It’s baseball. Take the field and bet against the Dodgers winning the World Series.
I have no issue either way what they’re doing.
Psychguy
Yeah. Why play the season? Give up.
christaylormvp
You realize the Padres already had him and let him go along with Soto, Hader and every other player they wanted over the last few seasons. Bogaerts, Machado, Musgrove, Scott the list goes on.
But the Dodgers are the bad guys.
Calsurf
Quit speaking with facts. Their heads may explode.
oldguyG
Can’t wait to watch the position players pitch .
Denden
Right. They have May, Miller, Gonsolin, Ohtani and Kershaw returning from injury plus addition of Snell and Sasaki.
Teoscar returning via contract. They signed potentially a stud Japanese second baseman so Betts can play in outfield again. Added Conforto who is at least a stable solid outfield starter.
Then you got Tanner Scott to add to Treinen and company. Oh ya and you still have Ohtani on offense, Freeman, and Muncy.
Just give them the trophy now
avenger65
Denden: First, Kim is Korean. Second, I can’t wait to hear all the whining when some of these star players are sitting on the bench game after game because there’s no room for them in the lineup. Not exactly the way they were treated with their last teams.
Calsurf
What star player don’t be playing?
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At least the Yankees got Goldie
MacGromit
I think MLB should consider the world series being played by a Dodger split squad.
shark stitches
They’d go for it only if Ohtani can pitch to himself.
ImACubsFanSoWhat
What the hell makes you think he won’t haha
LouWhitakerHOF
Why were fans ok when the Red Sox and the Yankees bought all of the top free agents for all those years. But now we have teams like the Mets, Dodgers and Giants doing it and so many people complaining about it. It is great more teams are willing to spend. I just wish it included my Detroit Tigers.
shark stitches
People complained about the Yankees all the time as well. The Dodgers are taking it to another level though.
nukeg
Nobody outside of NY / BOS was happy when those teams were engaged in an arms race.
Now the extra cherry on top with the Dodgers is that they’re taking advantage of the deferrals loophole. Sure everybody can do it, but do you think a small market team like Minnesota wants to ADD debt to their future? It’s the rich getting richer here and I’m afraid it’s really turning off the casual fan. MLB is so good at self-sabotage.
dm867
Seriously? Tons of people weren’t okay with it.
realist101
@nyyfan –
I’d definitely take the field over the Dodgers for winning the WS, and probably take the field over the Dodgers for reaching the WS.
Yankee Clipper
My NYY Brother, c’mon, you know the reason they play the season are because the innumerable variables that exist. But, the Yankees have always done this type of operation (although perhaps not to this degree and v certainly not with the deferrals).
I LOVE the Dodgers doing this. This is how to generate fandom, excitement, and prove to your fans that you’re investing in the team to win. The reason it’s so different now is because MLB used to prohibit ownership groups like this one, but they don’t anymore.
Moreover, it’ll be that much sweeter when they lose! As Realist said, I’ll take the field any day over any team.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I think this is an overpay to give a closer who only turned things around a couple years ago that kind of money for four years. But obviously there were several teams willing to go three years so the Dodgers did what it took.
Unclemike1526
Of course it’s an overpay. That’s what you need to do to outbid the 29 other teams. But it would have meant more victories which I kinda thought was the point.
OldtimeDodger
Thankfully the Dodgers can afford to overpay just like Mets did with Soto.
dugmet
/shrug. The harder they fall.
Mondesi’s Cannon
This is what’s called an A++ offseason folks.
Kc smoke
When will a salary cap exist to stop this? Make a floor and a cap and stop deferred $ or put a cap on the deferred $ at the very least. Ohtani playing cheap and getting paid big after retirement has them at an even bigger advantage.
GOBLUE37
They’re smart. All the other teams can do this, but they choose not to.
screamer2244
What are you talking about? That’s like saying everyone can afford to buy a Lamborghini, but they just choose not to. Silly.
Samuel
GOBLUE37;
LOL
BUT………
You get the ‘2025 MLBTR Post Most Reflecting The Mineset of MLBTR Posters’ award.
Fernando P
@GoBlue – You win the dumbest comment award. NO ONE else can do the same thing. How many players have 56M in yearly endorsements? How many of them take 2M to defer the rest? NO ONE.
dugmet
No. Tecnically teams could do the same but defering money has a significant impact upon the value of a team since debt depreciates value. If the Guardians deferred $1 billion, the team’s market value is more or less reduced by $1b because a buyer woukd be on the hook for the debt, not the seller.
DroppedThirdStrike
Contracts are funded at the time and the debt isn’t passed on, it’s already set aside. No devaluation t all.
Led Hoyer
Dodgers have a billion dollars of deferred money. That would cripple every organization besides dodgers and Yankees. Stop with this nonsense argument.
avenger65
GOBLUE37: It’s hard when everyone wants to play for the Dodgers. Sasaki could’ve gone to the Padres, say, and helped them compete favorably in the NLW. Instead, he goes to a team that doesn’t really need him. He declined a chance to be challenged for a soft ticket.
DroppedThirdStrike
It’s paid at the time and cripples no one. There is no big check coming at the end of the meal. It’s paid year by year.
CentralFan71
So much wrong with this. The Dodgers sign anyone they want. Their deferred payroll in about 10 years is gonna be legendary when they have to pay more than the A’s and Pirates entire team payrolls on dead money for players that no longer play for them. So much for competitive balance. Who is gonna unseat the Mighty Dodgers? Probably nobody for a while.
realist101
@CentralFan –
Under the CBA, the present value of deferred salary needs to be funded (such as in an escrow account) within 2 years of the season for which it’s earned.
The deferred salary cash flows that appear, at first glance, to be occurring 10+ years out are in fact occurring much sooner.
towinagain
Smh.
Rays in the Bay
Good luck to the Dbacks…
Braves Butt-Head
Give me a break
Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat Bar
christaylormvp
cope
roob
Omg
avenger65
When is this going to end? When will the MLBPA and MLB put an end to this star players overload that is the Dodgers? I hope they never win another WS but with their roster, they’ll probably win a lot more. It’s within the rules but, just like Manfred, it’s not good for the game.
Balk
The ultimate layaway team. Play now pay later!
VegasSDfan
LA can go to hell
Blue Baron
VegasSDfan: What a mature post that will change nothing. How old are you, 12?
JudgementDay
La is a wasteland now that the area is a charcoal pit
Omarj
Water is wet.
Bud Selig Fan
The Dodgers goal is to be the first $10B team in pro sports. $400M payrolls/year are nothing when franchise values go up a billion a year.
skinsfandfw
He has two first names.
Cubby 2025
Or two last names….
Dumpster Divin Theo
Michael Scott’s younger brother. “That’s what she said”
Braves Butt-Head
Actually Tanner is more of a last name and Scott is a first name so really if anything he has name dyslexia
rrrrr
Let the “I hate Dodgers” comment rain again
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
I don’t hate the dodgers at this point I hate mlbs system where you can refuse to win or pay to win
VegasSDfan
There needs to be a hard cap and a max deferred money percent.
Blue Baron
VegasSDfan: No there doesn’t, and it will never happen.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Vegas
Tell the owners to open their books and agree to a floor based upon a percentage of gross revenue and maybe you will get a cap. But the owners will never agree to that.
SanDiegoSuperDissapointingPadres
It’s the stupid billionaire mindset, why build, develop players, when you can buy! Use them up, 100+ innings a year, get ‘em TJ and ship ‘em out!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
San Diego
Dodgers do both. They develop guys, Kershaw, Will Smith, Seager, Gonsolin, May, fix other team castoffs like Muncy and Taylor, and spend a ton
Destroying the Game
Bwahahaha. Gonsolin and May didn’t contribute at all in ‘24 and Gonsolin was awful in ‘23. Outside of Will Smith, the entire current projected rotation, bullpen and everyday lineup are players they acquired and/or paid for, not developed. Myopic take.
OldtimeDodger
Sounds good to me. What exactly is wrong with that? Yankees started it when they purchased Babe Ruth’s contract for chicken feed.
Denden
Last year’s roster had 7 homegrown, 9 acquired via trade (of mostly homegrown talent), 8 free agent signings and 2 acquired from waivers. They also just got the best international signing. The Dodgers are doing it all.
The Yankees trade almost all their homegrown talent away and buy everyone and they got second place which wasn’t close.
CubsWS2016
Billionaires ( or their ancestors) didn’t become such, being stupid..
oldguyG
there’s no saving the sinking ship it’s broken full of holes. Jump everybody jump we’re going down . It’s time for a strike the league is broken .
GaryRedSoxxWarriors
Men do it SuperDisapointing. They don’t marry early and “build and develop” relationships.
They wait and buy ready made product all doctored up and looking pretty and enhanced as a trophy wife.
Then they “use them up and ship them out.”
It’s life. Why can’t baseball do it?
Big whiffa
How bout, I hate MLB instead ? They just let the game become ruined for the unforeseeable future. Even if I was a dodger fan – I’d be sayin this !
There’s 5/6 teams that can afford top talent and one of those teams are using deferred salary to overstock their team beyond measure. They have assembled the most talented team arguably in baseball history by manipulating rules and using their elite buying power and demographics. An advantage teams do not have in other sports
Writing has always been on the wall this was to come and the people who run the sport paved the way for this to happen. Completely ruining the sport smh.
MLB viewership will explode in japen yet decline in the states. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. Absolutely terrible !
I have loved mlb offseason for years now and love coming to this site and engaging. But this was my first time on since Friday and my interest is plummeting. Screw you MLB !
Joe says...
Big whiffa the exact same things were said about the Yankees for years. The game wasn’t ruined then and it’s not ruined now.
TB Sox NY
Are you saying each teams has the same odds to win a World Series?All it takes is to hot at the right time.
Fever Pitch Guy
TB – John Henry said just that, all 30 teams are contenders.
One reason why he’s encouraged not to talk publicly anymore, he pisses people off when he does.
Mendoza Line 215
Joe-The sport has been ruined since 1991 when big money has taken over.
There is an oligarchy in baseball,pure and simple.
One small market World Series winner since then proves it.
I say put the 8 small market teams in one division of four teams each,do the same with the biggest market teams that spend ridiculous amounts of money,and the rest into three divisions.
Let the Yankees and Mets and Dodgers spend to their hearts content.
Big whiffa
Joe, if you are talking about at turn of century- I loved hating the Yankees then ! It took a great mix of home grown talent and free agents to construct that roster and left a lot to hate for Yankee haters <3
I’ve never hated the dodgers. They have never been good enough to hate and I enjoyed watching their rise to compete with top market teams. They don’t even need their top talent however as they never even considered keeping buehler. And they buy all their talent in a way that’s not available to other teams.
And if you reference is to the historic Yankees – perfect comparison ! And that was a terrible product mlb produced then too !!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Mendoza
Dbacks were in 2023 World Series
Royals and Guardians are competitive
The owners that don’t spend should be replaced
OldtimeDodger
Any team in the post season has a chance to win. Baseball history has taught us that.
oldguyG
Baseball is broken ! The 162 games matter and it’s not a level playing field . Can’t wait for the strike until then baseball will be popular in LA and Japan just like Manfraud wanted it . While sinking in usa
Joe says...
Big whiffa, something I heard long ago has stuck with me. It’s as much as they say otherwise people don’t want parity in sports. They want dominance. Whether you root for the dominant team or hate the dominant team.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – That’s 100% true!
It’s why the Yankees and Dodgers create huge revenue on the road, everyone wants to see them.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
The Yankees were indeed the evil empire when George was still the owner and it was angering when they signed Clemens and a-rod and sabathia and teixera y’all get the point
However… the Yankees never bought entire chunks of each off-season class, and the dodgers have just added so much after winning the big one
MLB is the only American sports league right now where when you win a championship you can increase your payroll even more
I’m glad the NHL (after the lightning) and the NBA (after the warriors) fixed this problem
Jeremy320
All it took was for mlb to ignore rampant steroid use and a congressional investigation to save the league lol.
letsgooakland123
For me another big point is the fiasco in Oakland, think what you want about moving but playing 3 years in Sac should’ve been shot down as soon as it was proposed.
I really believe Manfred’s rule changes saved baseball, bringing the average fan down more than 10 years, but things like what you mention and the A’s make me wish that all my favorite players and brands moved to a new league.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Go, Sacramento, it will be exciting to watch A’s
differentbears
I’m excited that in 2026 (I don’t think they play @Athletics in 2025) I should be able to drive two hours to see the Dodgers play the A’s.
Cmurphy
Dodgers at Athletics in May. I think they designed the schedule so that every team plays every team now.
Oops, MLB puts it weird, at is not at,
MC Tim C
The A’s should be playing in Oakland but the city of Oakland royally botched that.
belowme29
Good bye MLB fan. See you never LOL
ghostofmookiebetts
I guess all the big tech companies like fbook, amazon, etc and big box stores like walmart, home depot etc shouldn’t be allowed to do what they’re doing either?
Scream_name
@ghost some people believe that giant corporations like that are slowly demolishing the economy, but yeah putting all of the mom and pops out of business is one way to proceed.
OldtimeDodger
Game is only ruined for teams with cheap billionaire owners who only care about bottom line. Dodger fans suffered under McCourts super cheap ways.
Blue Baron
Big whiffa: You need to change your handle to Big whina, lol.
seamaholic 2
I don’t think anyone hates the Dodgers like they did the Yankees in the day. The evil empire Yanks had personality. They had players (and managers) you loved to hate. The Dodgers are a corporate machine with faceless squeaky clean players and managers (hell they’re even owned by a corporation). They’re an optimized machine. They’re boring.
VonPurpleHayes
You’re wrong or you haven’t been to San Diego. The Dodgers hate burns strong. Much more than the Yankees evil empire.
OldtimeDodger
Ha ha that’s hilarious. Are you a comic?
If not you should be.
Four4fore
Hate the union. They allow deferred money and a mockery of the luxury tax. The Dodgers just have the money to exploit the system. The union also has the ability to strike, so they have more power than they owners.
oldguyG
So do fans have right to strike .
avenger65
oldguy: White Sox fans did just that, leaving almost all of the seats empty despite reinsdorf’s pitiful attempt to bring us back by lowering tickets to $15. He said towards the end of the season that he was upset with the way things were going and he would have more to say after the season. He didn’t. All he did was lower the budget even more. 134 losses, here we come!
920falcon
MLBPA is the most powerful union in America (relative to its industry).
OldtimeDodger
If they didn’t allow it there would be no ball players. Maybe just let the owners play the game.
dclivejazz
I don’t hate the Dodgers but I sure am getting sick of them.
Brew’88
I don’t hate any team, player, coach, fan. But the growing imbalance of competition among teams in larger markets vs those in smaller markets is driving fans in smaller markets away from the game, especially younger fans.
OldtimeDodger
You should be sick of your team’s owners.
oldguyG
Yea because he died it’s a shame .
oldguyG
I hate mlb and the dodgers too
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I find your lack of faith disturbing
Bauer? But I Hardly Know Her!
deferred something
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Bauer had deferred ethics
OldtimeDodger
If you are hated by other team’s fans you are doing something right.
carternico
BROOOO
thunderlips
Good God
NYCityRiddler
“Why, ya crazy doggone idjit! Whatcha trying to do, blow us to smithereens?” Ahahahahaha!
vaderzim
Of course it’s the Dodgers.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I think this gives Cohen a little cover, LOL
avenger65
MLB Top 100: Interesting, isn’t it, that people didn’t really pile on when Cohen spent like crazy two seasons ago or this off-season when he signed Soto. The Mets aren’t considered The Evil Empire like the Dodgers are.
OldtimeDodger
Players want to play for a winner. Yanks did it and won a bunch of world series.
RunDMC
Blame Ohtani and his 2M deals
braveshomer
Yes exactly this. No way half these deals happened if Ohtanis salary is applied every season as well. Smart operation by the Dodgers and I can’t hate on them for that…They sure have built a ‘Super-Team’ after being quiet for a couple of seasons after 2020 WS win. I’ll happily admit I’m jealous and wish the Braves could do the same.
seamaholic 2
Absolutely dead wrong. The Dodgers pay out every dime of that $70m per year for Ohtani. That’s by CBA rule and CA law. They just pay it into escrow instead of Shohei’s bank account. This allows them to count present value in lux tax calculations (about $46m per year iirc) and allows Shohei to avoid income taxes should he decide to live in a low tax place after his career. They are NOT paying only $2m a year.
braveshomer
Ok Good point…at the end of the day money was ‘Deffered’ to avoid penalties by both parties involved. I’m a big believer in 2 things can be true at once but let’s no kid ourselves saying it wasn’t done to circumvent the system. Again I’m not hating, i wish my team would do this, we just don’t have the money to do so like the Dodgers. Trust me no one likes giving at least money as possible to the gov’t more than me but don’t get defensive when others point it out.
Tigers3232
@Braves His salary is applied every year at current value($44M). This money counts against luxury tax and also is required to fund so that it can accrue to be paid later.
Yes it’s kind of absurd how the Dodgers keep spending. But deferred $ is not nefarious as it is being portrayed. Ultimately if the issue is a big as some want to believe, the issue is not deferred $ it’s the haves and have nots.
flagga
The Braves probably can not because certain states do not allow players to defer money. The playing field is not level and MLB needs to fix it
Tigers3232
@flagga Please provide which states(if any) do not allow deferred compensation. Deferred compensation has tax laws atvthe federal level and also has state taxes which vary by state, but to the best of my knowledge is allowed in every state. I’m not even sure if states can legal ban it. Now some states do not provide same tax advantages, bit it is like that with all income.
JJJ returns
Certain states don’t have an income tax, which seems like an unlevel playing field to me.
PKCasimir
California has the highest state income tax rate of any state, by far. So what’s your point?
McGurk
Certain states also don’t charge income tax. The system was never fair to begin with,
Edit JJJ beat me to it.
revolver
2020*
OldtimeDodger
Brave ownership too cheap. Freddie should have never been allowed to walk. But I give them my sincere thanks.
madduxm
the infinity gauntlet has all of its stones
Wire to wire 2024
They started a second gauntlet
jade 2
They on feetlets
Yankee Clipper
And yet, he was still defeated in the end.
Psychguy
Dodger haters unite.
Fever Pitch Guy
Psych – As a psych guy you know every person here wishes their team would do what the Dodgers are doing … right?
Ryan W
Doesn’t make it good for baseball
Fever Pitch Guy
Ryan – I agree it’s not good for fans of other teams.
But for MLB it is. Super teams generate big revenue.
Look at the WS ratings last year compared to 2023.
Ryan W
Still far less than what it used to be. Even less than the Astros cheat season 2017. You’d think the billing of the historic Yankees-Dodgers would mean a lot more. It didn’t.
ron_karate
Yep. The oyer owners are going to it when the Dodgers come to their towns. $$$$
Brew’88
@Fever Pitch Guy. Super teams that generate revenue, such as the small market Kansas City Chiefs, can also exist in balanced competitive models as we see in the NFL and NBA. Where teams aren’t able to just buy winning, they have to draft, develop, coach and play well to win.
Fever Pitch Guy
Ryan – The two biggest revenue generating teams, both hated for their spending, going at it. Couldn’t have a more attractive matchup.
Villains attract eyes, in sports and movies. Even Star Wars would have been nothing without Darth, fact of life.
Fever Pitch Guy
Brew – NFL and NBA are different in that a great QB (Brady) or scorer (Jordan) can carry lesser teammates.
Not the same with MLB, as we’ve seen with the Angels and Yankees and so many other teams.
In MLB you can’t have your best hitter bat 12 times a game, or your best pitcher pitch 7 innings 5 times a week.
Brew’88
@Fever Pitch Guy. Yes that’s true and I have commented on that distinction elsewhere in these posts. I was just pointing out that we can have super teams that make the leagues a lot of money in coexistence with competitive balance models. The gross imbalance in the MLB isn’t necessary to generate revenue. The big markets don’t need to win for the league to succeed.
revolver
15 million avg. Is not impressive at all considering it involved the two largest markets in the country. I’d say it’s quite disappointing.
Psychguy
Exactly.
seamaholic 2
No. We all realize our teams cannot do that. Our teams have neither the cash nor the Japanese media presence in their cities to do what the Dodgers are doing. You’re living in a self-validating fantasy.
Fever Pitch Guy
Seam – Where did I say any team COULD do what the Dodgers did?
Hafta give them credit for creating a popular destination for players.
Much like my team did 22 years ago.
Psychguy
The old addage develop your own players use the international market, improve your scouting, and fill in the gaps with free agents stiill applies even if your ownership does not have the same financial resources as LA. Stop trading off your assets for a rental and show a little patience for guys to develop. Get smart people to run your team.
Wire to wire 2024
No not everyone wishes their teams were trying to buy championships
Fever Pitch Guy
Psych – So then why do you hate the Dodgers if you think every team has the ability to be better than them???
JJJ returns
California has high cost of living and high state taxes, and no one cared about Japanese media presence until this last year.
McGurk
I guarantee you that if Pittsburg or the Reds would win their division 10 times in a row and make WS a couple of times by sheer law of averages, players would be signing deferred contracts with them also.
metsfan1992
Dodgers sure love to sign everyone. Is this their 20th Man they are given a deferral to?
earmbrister
Fans need to boycott the foolishness of MLB. The NFL is the dominant sports league in the US because there is a certain amount of parity. Sports fans should stay away and not spend their hard earned money on MLB until they level the playing field. The greed of the owners AND the players is destroying their own sport
Fever Pitch Guy
Earm – My NFL team proved there’s no parity 2001-2004 and 2014-2018.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Jets fan are you?
ReyDay
You mean how Chiefs Mahomes has been in the Super Bowl 4 of the last 5 years, or how over the last 22 seasons Brady and Mahomes account for almost half the SB victories between them?
dm867
I don’t disagree the MLB needs to revamp how they do things. But the NFL isn’t the business mode to follow for parity. NHL and NBA maybe
highflyballintorightfield
The NHL has a hard salary cap because the league locked the players out for a year, costing a whole season, and also made a credible threat to disband the league entirely.
I don’t think MLB can reasonably do that, nor are fans (especially the whiniest among us) willing to accept it. MLB considered using replacement players in the 1995 strike but it went poorly and I doubt they would try it again.
Tigers3232
@ear How many times have Chiefs been to SuperBowl in recent years? How about Patriots this century? Now how many teams have been to World Series an equal amount of times as either of those teams over those spans??
I agree it seems a bit overkill with the Dodgers signing players right now. But as far as parity goes and comparisons to the NFL, you are way off.
differentbears
Over half the league (16 teams of 30) has won a World Series since 2001.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Parity in the NFL, you must be Swift-boating us
Tigers3232
@earn Parity in the NFL? How many times have Chiefs been to SuperBowl in recent years? How about Patriots this century??How many teams have went to World Series as much in those time frames??
nando390
LOL
Doron
Lemme guess, 30 million signing bonus and 40 million defered?
Doron
Oh wait, that would mean he gets under the league minimum per year.
So 28 million signing bonus, 40 million defered, and 1 mil a year in salary.
Tigers3232
@Doran What would either of those matter? The signing bonus is spread over life of contract as far as CBA impact. Deferred $ and how it’s funded is outlined in CBA. It has to be funded annually and that amount is counted against the luxury tax. It’s no real advantage against the CBA or ability to sign players. It’s just ways for rich to either hedge investments(deferred payments) or get a lump sum to accrue and work for them sooner(signing bonuses).
Both have pros and cons as far as investments go. But neither are nefarious and neither skirt luxury tax rules. Both are outlined in the CBA as far as how they re funded and how they are accounted for against the luxury tax.
Doron
I wasn’t off by much.
$20 million signing bonus, $21 million defered.
So this counts as a 4 year 31 million contract….
Stan Not the Man
This is NOT funny for MLB.
mlbnyyfan
Seriously what are the Mets doing???? They don’t have an ace and they refused to sign Scott. They are basically doing what I feared the Yankees would do and sign Soto and not do much of anything else.
padam
I think they’re being purposeful with each signing. Money goes to bats, pitching gets projects, bargains, or come through the system. This year Soto, next year Vladdy or Tucker.
ReyDay
Mets have Diaz, Scott wanted to close why would he sign with the Mets to set up Diaz or share the role ?
norcalblue
RD, he’s not necessarily closing in LA. Dodgers are committed to high leverage dictating use of bullpen pieces.
joe_roc
They signed AJ Minter to a team friendly deal for a guy that was an excellent reliever. Save that money for Vladdy and/or Tucker next year. They’re following the Dodgers script
ron_karate
Charlie Finley said the same thing when Catfish signed with the Yankees.
Lou Sassoll
Okay so my kitchen was more than just retro.
bucsfan0004
The Dodgers are really abusing the ‘no salary cap’ rule. Its getting out of hand
Never Remember
Why? There is no cap and every other team could do the same. The fact that other owners are too greedy should not stop Dodgers from putting together best team. What is out of hand is all the whining by baseball fans. So pathetic.
Lets Go DBacks
The whining comments are just as terrible as “other owners are too greedy” comments. Sure, they all have a lot of money, but there is a difference between the pockets of one owner and the other. Would be nice if commenters like you also acknowledge that.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Dbacks just got Burnes for over $200 million but less than what the Bluejays offered, bet that seems unfair to Toronto fans
cards99
Surely other teams could give deferred contracts as well
dm867
Yes they could. And don’t call me Shirley.
seamaholic 2
Owner wealth is literally irrelevant. You or I could own the Dodgers or the Brewers and their respective budgets for player payroll would be identical to what they are now. Teams spend strictly out of team revenue, not their owners’ pockets.
Lets Go DBacks
@MLB Top 100 Commenter
I am not complaining about the Dodgers and what their FO does. I don’t know what the Blue Jays offered, nor did you, but it surely played a role that the Diamondbacks play where Burnes lives, there is no denying that. Just like California is what Japanese players apparently like. Sobeit.
Lets Go DBacks
@seamaholic 2
We both know that is not true. Cohen is the best example of it.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Dbacks
Agree. Which is why I saw nothing wrong with Roki wanting to go to Dodgers or Burnes wanting to go to Snakes
McGurk
These folks are called Whiners because their sole motivation for wanting any change is because the Dodgers have gotten too good. They are completely disingenuous They don’t care about what is good for the game, they just care that LA doesn’t use their advantage. But players have signed for less to join other team, players decided they want to play in a certain coast or like the training staff in a certain city etc… and that is all okay as long as those players don’t sign with LA right?
oldguyG
Try being a fan of a team with no tv money it sucks to watch payroll go backwards f MLB
Swingandamiss
The other owners don’t have as large a tv revenue stream. Some lost it completely. The lack of pooled revenue on local tv rights is what creates this incredible disparity. Don’t fault the other teams that legitimately dont have it to give – bc the system is broken. They need to gang up.
JJJ returns
Other owners are content to sit back and bring in money from other teams’ luxury tax payments.
YaySports
That’s a lazy cop out answer that ignores his point and you know it
jade 2
The Dodgers got a sweetheart TV deal pays em like 300 mil. per. So no, not every team can spend until they are close to 1/2 bil with taxes. It is bad for baseball.
seamaholic 2
And they also have a wealthy, huge market that allows them to charge more per ticket than anyone else, while also selling more than anyone else. They have easily $700m in revenue. A team like the Pirates probably max out under $300m, and that’s probably generous.
It is generally thought that non-player payroll costs to run a team hover in the $130-140m range, maybe a bit higher. Dodgers could run a $400m payroll and still pull a profit comparable only to maybe the Yankees.
McGurk
Are your numbers before or after revenue sharing payments?
Victory Faust
Other teams don’t have television revenue alone of 330 million each year.
windycity89
Can’t wait to see how much of his deal gets deferred lmao
James Midway
Why not
VonPurpleHayes
This is hilarious.
rudymay45
This is what a real “Evil Empire” looks like. Is there even any point to playing the regular season now? LA has the look of a 115-win team, while the Yanks scrape the bottom of the barrel for middle infielders.
heinie manush
A 115 win year looks like a poor outcome for the team being assembled.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Depends on which players they rest if they have a comfortable division lead. I would not be surprised if they only win 110
LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngelsOfLosAngeles
Glad I picked every free agent going to the Dodgers
Dan N
Ok …over under now 130 wins…
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Under
Yankee Clipper
Under.
Brew’88
Over under on an LAD pitcher pitching more than 140 innings?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Brew
Under, but too close to put money on it
DroppedThirdStrike
Under. I’d bet that the Dodgers FO plans to not pitch anyone more than 140. Maybe Yamamoto but only to preserve his rhythm. Absolutely no one goes over 160
Yankee Clipper
Under 140.
DavRozNYY
way under
Never Remember
Thank god. The Dodgers finally got a top player. Now they haven’t least a shot at winning.
AgentF
Why not? They’ve got the money for it seeing that they’re paying Ohtani and Roki pretty much nothing.
Digdugler
defer defer defer
Gadzooks
1994 will be a blip in history compared to the CBA negotiations after 2026.
But do keep telling fans how this is “good for baseball”, Mr Manfred.
Scottnva74
How is good that over half of the MLB teams are doing nothing but yet owned by some of the richest people on the planet?
Scottnva74
Don’t hate the Dodgers, hate the 20 or so other teams that have punted this off-se ason so far!
danm-6
I think it’s OK to do both…
norcalblue
yes, if it makes you feel better, go right ahead….
rrrrr
Who gets around 120 to 150mil for rev shares.
Swingandamiss
Tell me you know nothing about team revenue without telling me you know nothing about team revenue.
brucenewton
Big markets don’t want the small markets spending money. They want the top free agents left for them.
jswanny41
How much is deferred I wonder
norcalblue
js- enough to most probably bring the luxury cap hit down to around $15m AAV. we’ll see soon enough.
baseballandbrews
Despite your sports loyalty allegiance, the Dodgers aren’t ruining baseball.
They’re just better at it than everyone else.
The Dodgers, over the last decade, have built an organization that players WANT to join.
Roki Sasaki signing with the Dodgers is just a testament to what they’ve built. Their players development ranking (many have stated between 1-5 in the league) is just a testament to what they’ve built. There are players signing for less money to sign with the Dodgers.
This is just a testament to what they’ve built.
boachthecoach
Wipe it up when you’re done
SF6sparky
That is delusional
captainsalty
This is absolutely true. The Dodgers were ahead of the game with their innovations and investment into player development, all the way up from the minor leagues. Training, nutrition, education, etc…Other teams have now caught up after deciding to copy that model, but they are most definitely a team that players want to play for.
GhostofRandySavage
I think very few people would agree. Players taking less money to stack a team is bad for any sport. That’s why the NBA has basically been unwatchable for 15 years
fansincethe80s
Yankees fans said the same bs during the 90s but it was all about the money.
Yankee Clipper
Uh, not really. 2/3 of the Yankees starting 9 were home grown in the 90’s. That’s directly contrary to what everyone says about them winning their five championships.
GhostofRandySavage
Imagine the outrage when they signed…Scott Brosius
brucenewton
Posada and Jeter were homegrown but not sure about the other 7 hitters. Probably free agents.
danm-6
I mostly agree, but at what point is it bad for baseball? I’d say we are past that point already.
hllywdjff
That’s why sports have salary caps because smaller market teams have to have a fighting chance it’s got nothing to do with just the culture 99% of it is show me the money…
Swingandamiss
Yes. Being in the largest media market in the country is not why they’re successful, it’s just because they are better. lol.
Gmaytag
Dude are you drunk or something? The only players signing for less might be players 20-26 on the roster, Scott @$18m isn’t less, Ohtani give me a break, Freeman nope, Betts nope, Snell hell no, Yamamoto nope….the Japanese kid this week was locked in by rule to only sign for a limited amount. Players are going there because the dodgers are buying every one of them. Hope they enjoy that he’ll hole CA with all those taxes and deferred $$$.
GhostofRandySavage
I ain’t reading that essay
ChipperChop
The Dodgers being good at player development is an absolute myth. They have 1 starter (rotation or position) that they developed and that’s Will Smith. They are having to spend all this money because they can’t develop players. Outman, Luxe, Bobby Miller, etc, etc. They have all sucked but when you have unlimited funds to spend it makes no difference.
joe_roc
This is getting outta hand
MrHappy
Let me guess, next year they sign Guerrero and Tucker.
Wire to wire 2024
I said this the other day, tucker will be 4th OF and vlad will dh
Damn Yankee$
This is turning into the Miami Heat.
danm-6
Except the Heat had a salary cap.
RichP
This signing by the Dodgers makes Steinbrenner and the old Yankees in his wild spending day’s look like a saint. This is completely ridiculous!
tbone0816
This is ridiculous!!
thebirds
So what happens 5 years from now when they have all this money in addition to the 6.3 Billion deferred owed? They may have overshot their ROI at this point.
Digdugler
Money is paid each year into escrow, they dont have any actual cash that needs to be paid in later years out of their pocket. They pay the full amount each year it just counts less for CBT purposes. There is no risk to the team, the players just lose out a bit due to inflation.
padam
Yeah, I’ve been saying this as well. They’ll have a percentage of what everyone else would have regarding luxury tax room. They can certainly go over, but it’ll cost them dearly.
Swingandamiss
They are banking on the revenue systems never changing.
differentbears
They pay it out of the money they invested (and possibly made a few million on). The Dodgers aren’t kicking the can down the road, the money is being set aside now.
DavRz
This will just make it sweeter when they get knocked off in the NL plsyoffs.
Unclemike1526
Who’s going to do that exactly?
dmbphils27
Touche, Sir.
Wire to wire 2024
A younger healthier team
GhostofRandySavage
Ahhh the new NBA. Already know the season’s outcome before it starts. Congrats dodger fans, enjoy the predictability and absence of competition.
letitbelowenstein
They will, unfortunately. One thing that has changed little since 1977 is the mindset of Los Angeles sports fans. They like to be seen at games, but most wouldn’t know a passed ball from a lamb chop.
fansincethe80s
Alex – What are “Lies people tell themselves to help them sleep at night?”
Brew’88
How is MLB like the NBA? The NBA has a salary cap and that’s how Oklahoma City and Cleveland can be dominating now.
GhostofRandySavage
Bosh/wade/James…Durant to Golden State. This LA team feels similar. Just the nonsense that removes parity from a sport. I stopped watching the NBA a long time ago.
Brew’88
The Heat had to stay under the salary cap though. But yes, the outcome of games in the NBA playoffs is far more predictable than in the MLB, and 2 or 3 superstars can dictate the outcome more than any other team sport perhaps. Yet the Thunder and Cavs are dominating because the big market teams are limited in their ability to just buy the talent to keep a thumb on them. The Cleveland Indians don’t have the market size to compete with LAD and NY teams.
The stochasitc nature of baseball is it’s saving grace to some extent. A WC team can beat the superpower team in a 5 or 7 game series.
GhostofRandySavage
Stochastic, great vocab. I had a lot of fun watching Detroit surprise everyone last year, hopefully some NL teams can still compete with LA.
Brew’88
blame my mom. I should have said “crap shoot”
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Guardians
Daniel Youngblood
The Mavericks saved us from a Heat title in their first year as a super team. Who is going to do the same for baseball?
Quick, someone light the Dirk Nowitzki signal.
GhostofRandySavage
I bet dirk could have thrown a nasty sinker
Brew’88
corrected, thanks
Aoe3
The Mariners in 2001 won 116games or something? And they were out in the first round. Anything can happen in the post season and LA could fall short. You either like or hate them lol.
differentbears
2001 Mariners lost in the ALCS.
fansincethe80s
Dodgers making a mockery of the sport. It must be something in the DNA of teams originating out of New York that make them want to be an evil empire
DavRz
Or maybe it’s something about Hollyweird
fansincethe80s
Nope, the 3 teams that have tried to buy the sport were born in New York
DavRz
Naa..those Dodgers been out in that California sun for so many decades ,nothing About NY remains.
dmbphils27
This is asinine already. What a total joke. It’s like playing a video game of NL all stars vs everyone else
yogineely
Going to sleep until spring training with a giant smile on my face
kodion
The Dodgers (or Mets or Yankees or Phillies or …) needed to do things like they have this offseason to show how it CAN be done.
The real issue is that nothing will be done to change the parameters to level the playing field because MLB won’t want their anti-trust exemption challenged in the courts again.
fansincethe80s
Older fans have already seen this and it resulted in the majority fans of the MLB to lose interest.
What’s good for the Dodgers/Yankees isn’t always good for MLB.
longines64
Tan me hide when I’m dead, Fred
Super2
BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
ocladfan
What nobody else wanted to sign him? Pitcher and catcher report soon…good for him. Pete still out there…teams need to open up their wallets.
Rays in the Bay
Not at that price! Only the Dodgers!
Brew’88
15 of the past 16 WS winners were top 8 in payroll and all were top 10 in market size. So, yes, those who can spend can buy championships.
ocladfan
Well the Mets were suppose to be the top spenders? What happened? They got cheap after the Soto deal?
Brew’88
Yeah, $ doesn’t always equate to championships, just ask the 7 of top 8 spending teams each year who don’t win the WS. The playoffs are a crap shoot and superpower LAD had to win a tight game 5 against the Pads last year to avert the ongoing narrative of a very long 162-season WS drought. The Mets will keep trying I’m sure. .
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Did Dodgers promise Roki to get him a closer?
HalosHeavenJJ
It’s an all star team at this point.
Can’t blame the Dodgers for exploiting the current CBA but a good league has some parity.
Digdugler
I did the math
2024 All-Stars
Tanner Scott
Betts
Freeman
Ohtani
Teoscar
Will Smith
Glasnow
Werent all-stars last year but probable 2025 all-stars
Roki
Snell
Yamamoto
Am I missing anyone?
Oldguy58
Like the NFL used to do having the Champions play a team of college all stars, MLB could have the Dodgers play a team of all stars instead of the traditional all star game
Fever Pitch Guy
Dig – You’re missing Bregman ;o)
Degaz
LOL of course…MLB needs to crack down on this Monopoly
letitbelowenstein
They’ll try when the CBA talks begin. But they’ll fail.
JJJ returns
How is this a monopoly?
spirit of truth
LMAO! That is hilarious! They are the baseball’s version of the nWo! If you know you know. It’s got to be just too sweeeeet to be a true Dodgers fan right now. They’re making a mockery of the entire system. I love it.
King Floch
F-F-F-FOR LYFE
Daniel Youngblood
Who will be our Sting?
Fallguy820
I am absolutely shocked !!! Talking about being in bed with the commissioner.
آلي مكبيل_.._.بيتزا بيبيروني آشتون كوتشر
How can they get Skenes and Judge? Judge would be great off of the bench and Skenes would be a great middle reliever on this team. Possibly use both of them for depth at AAA.
sax332n86
Skenes will be a Dodger eventually. He’s a California guy that obviously won’t spend his career in Pittsburgh, Once he gets into the later stages of arbitration, the clock will be ticking on Pittsburgh to deal him for prospects.
Rumor Shill
the mlb flipped out and made a cohen tax and now every season since it’s the dodgers exceeding it
Rays in the Bay
They should rename it to the Dodgers tax. If you can spend more than the Dodgers then you should get luxury taxed out the wahoo!
upsidedowncake
Dodgers blah blah blah, whatever. Now that THAT’S cleared up, wow, what an overpay. Guy signs with maybe the only team that could afford to DFA a reliever halfway through a contact where they still owe ~$35m, if it’s not working out. 4th highest reliever contract ever, 3rd highest AAV. If he throws 75ip per season, he’s making a quarter-mil per out. Insanity.
Rays in the Bay
THIS! I don’t care that he’s going to the Dodgers, but that contract is shared around the league. Every decent reliever now thinks they can make at least as much as Scott. And if all other teams refuse, there’s the Dodgers and Mets. Dodgers fans can delude themselves as much as they want but they are destroying baseball by chucking their wealth at it. Superteams are bad for sports.
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@Rays
Players all wait out for the super team contracts vs. the super teams only have 26 roster spots.
Something will have to give.
Not that I don’t agree. I’m just wondering how many players will have to “give”.
bubs13
Let me guess…it’s great for baseball. Bregman and Santander would be good bench pieces for them, too…
Rays in the Bay
Never say never. I said that after the Dodgers signed Snell… And then when they signed Sasaki.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Do they want to play for a winner?
hllywdjff
Honest to God just cancel the season barring injuries the dodgers will win 120+ games. Just give them the title for God sakes…
ron_karate
Nah they won’t. Everytime I build a team like this in a 2K game they win 88 and finish 3rd
Terry B
F yeah!!!
Salzilla
I got nothing, my dudes. Wow.
Rumor Shill
At some point, they’re going to run out of roster spots, no?
letitbelowenstein
Then they do a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 deal and sign more free agents.
vikingbluejay67
How much money does an organization have to make to actually offset the luxury tax?
Obviously the Dodgers profits must be blowing past that.
YankeesBleacherCreature
They don’t even need to make good operating profits as their brand value will continue to appreciate and help them leverage any future corporate negotiations.
bluesteele
The Dodgers should be celebrated and the focus put on other cheap owners! The game is changing and we’re screaming at the aggressive team who’s trying to win instead of the others owners who give you lip service while watching their bank account grow. Where is the attention on teams who don’t try?
End the insanity
They are gaming the system with deferred money. MLB needs to step in and get rid of the practice moving forward
bluesteele
Why do you blame LA for this? Deferred money is not new and most of the other teams do it. It’s a very naive post.
JJJ returns
Every single other team can “game the system” with deferred money.
rocknwell
I think that’s why everyone is screaming…the Dodgers are the only team doing anything. It’s not unfair. It’s a capitalist market. And players are free to choose where to sign. The Dodgers is a team many would love to play for given the opportunity. My comment below is just a “throwing up my hands” moment because of this fact…the dodgers can and will sign anyone they want to better their team. It is what it is. At the end of the day, they aren’t guaranteed success.
Joe It All
Why complain about it? Tanner Scott is nothing more than the latest flavor of the week closer. Be happy the Dodgers were the one to overpay for him. I’m willing to bet that somebody else will be the closer in L.A. before this contract finishes.
Rays in the Bay
Overpaying doesn’t matter. What matters is they are setting price standards, even for guys who have just a couple of good years under their belt. No other team wants to pay that, so those players will just default to the Dodgers because they WILL pay. And they will win a lot. Which in turn increases the player’s value to sign with other teams.
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Joe
Sensible take.
sultan of swat
Thank god my team plays in the American League.
Bobby Mongan
When will the headline read: Dodgers sign everybody? Ridiculous!!
bluesteele
When will the headline read: MLB billionaire owners continue to profit while not giving their fans a product that competes? Ridiculous.
dmp13
The Harlem Globetrotters of baseball
vikingbluejay67
Looks like no other team even want to play.
Otto371
I know other teams use deferrals but do the Dodgers use them more often, or just get talked about more because of the high profile names they use it on?
Digdugler
Dodgers make up 90% of all deferrals I imagine. Other teams have 1 offs sometimes but Dodgers have deferred almost every player on their roster.
VegasMoved
“I imagine”
So you don’t actually know and are making things up. Got it.
JJJ returns
Every other team is free to offer contracts with deferrals.
End the insanity
Time for mlb to jump in now and ban deferred deals.
Digdugler
They have to wait until the next CBA, but yes there will be some changes after another lockout.
Rays in the Bay
Even if they change it, the damage is done. That’s possibly why the Dodgers are stacking it all on now. They can’t punish the Dodgers for it because it’s within the rules at this point in time.
And let’s be honest, that’s a big IF. I’m sure Manfred is more interested in robot Umps instead of balancing competition.
rocknwell
ARE WE SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? I guess everyone else will play normal baseball and the Dodgers will play All-Star Baseball for the next decade.
End the insanity
The dodgers buy their players with Affirm. Buy now, pay later.
MWMet
At some point, something has got to give.
jdgoat
Salary cap. Salary floor. Now.
Just making a mockery of the sport. There can’t be anybody who enjoys this. Hell, even if I were a Dodgers fan I’d see how much of a joke this competitive balance system is.
norcalblue
what I see is an absolutely brilliant executive FO executive using EVERY tool at his disposal to acquire and develop the deepest and most talented roster possible. Friedman understands that it takes player development (scouting, intelligent drafting, coaching), free agent acquisitions and astute trades using his assets to accomplish that goal.
Baseball America recently researched and reported that there are more players drafted and signed by the Dodgers on the rosters of mlb teams than any other organization. Andrew Friedman and his staff are simply the best at what they do.
Until other organizations get their effing acts together, the Dodgers will continue to have dominant regular season teams. Given the current playoff structure, that also means that “the field” will ALWAYS win more championships than even the best organization. That’s the tradeoff. it’s also the incentive for Friedman to continue to squeeze ever ounce of increased probability of postseason success he can in the offseason by acquiring more and more talent.
Daniel Youngblood
If by using every tool, you mean exploiting every CBA loophole to the point that a lockout is all but guaranteed after 2026, then sure.
At this point, I’m rooting for a lockout, which has never happened in my almost 40 years on earth.
The owners need to dig in hard on an international draft and end this deferral nonsense once and for all. I didn’t care if this sport misses an entire season to get it.
DroppedThirdStrike
Owners are happy with the current situation. Players are happy about the current situation.
They’ll fight over the margins, who gets what percent of this or that revenue, but there is no strike or lockout on the horizon.
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@Daniel
A lockout happened during the last CBA negotiations. Maybe you meant a lockout that cancels a season?
jdgoat
If they were so good at drafting and developing they wouldn’t be giving out hundreds of millions of dollars to every all star that hits the free market. You can try to spin in another way but this is not good for the game. And I’m not blaming the Dodgers, this is 100% an MLB problem.
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
It’s definitely ruining the sport unchecked deferrals is as bad as unchecked nil money
I mean hell how about the Mets ask for some money from some billionaires offer to defer it with interest in a bank account for 50 years and spend money on the team using outside resources from friends. Even the playing field a little
Rays in the Bay
. I used to get mad but now this is just hilarious. Who’s left that they can sign? I’m sure there’s someone out there. Maybe a mascot or two to have on the bench?
I hope they go on to crush the competition and destroy MLB… At least enough for a change.
This also gives all the cheap owners a reason to not even try to win while winking at it’s fans.
wmurphy24
They have to make changes that limit these teams (Mets and Dodgers) and force all the other owners to spend. This is ridiculous.
dopt
Not sure the fuss. Anyone could have had him. The CAP scares off teams ability to get better. Dodgers spend more than Steinbrenner ever did and are at least creative and within boundaries
Digdugler
What you Dodgers fans dont understand is that other teams CANT sign guys that want to go to the Dodgers. Teoscar took a discount + deferrals, Ohtanti took deferrals (Jays had the same contract at least we are told), Roki is free but obviously was always going to Dodgers, Yamamoto was always going to the Dodgers, etc. The league is not an even playing field because big markets (LA/NY) are where players want to go. Now I am sure Scott would have signed somewhere else for an additional $20M but teams shouldnt have to pay insane premiums to get any player.
On the other end, another part of the problem is that other teams payrolls are way too small Every team should have a payroll of $120M+. They are all making bank, they get revenue shared, there is no excuse.
Brew’88
I like the NFL model.
JJJ returns
They can’t sign them? Of course they can sign them.
They are going to the Dodgers because of the winning culture Friedman and co. have built over years, and some are willing to take less money to do it.
Amazing how the narrative went from “CHOKERS” and “Mickey Mouse” to “Dodgers are ruining baseball!” in one year.
YanksPhan42
Meanwhile the Yankees are shopping at TJ Maxx for a 3B and are sweating the Stroman contract when they literally print money.
Rays in the Bay
If the Yanks are at TJ Maxx, the Rays and 20 other teams must be at the Salvation Army.
jimmymlb1
We need 45/47 to step in here starting tomorrow. That low t, woke Manfred will do nothing.
flyingblindsquirrel
Man! If they somehow DON’T win it all, it’s almost automatically the biggest choke and/or the most disappointing season in MLB history.
JJJ returns
Fake narrative. Vegas still puts the Dodgers at 3-to-1 (meaning 25% chance) to win the World Series.
vikingbluejay67
Dodgers are the only ones at the buffet table.
30 Parks
MLB -Major League Business.
Stevil
MLB will need to change the name of everything that has ‘competitive balance’ attached. It’s just laughable at this point.
Maybe the small and mid-market teams could create an app that focuses on Dodger injury bets and split the profits for supplemental income?
Terry B
Don’t hate on the Dodgers for having an ownership group who WANTS to win and is willing to reinvest their money into their product to make it better! Isn’t that what all good corporations do, after all baseball is a business, remember that! And how many people been laughing at the Dodgers saying 2020 was a Mickey Mouse Ring and how the Dodgers choke every year…well who’s laughing now! And oh by the way…there’s no crying in baseball as Tom Hanks character once said!
flagga
Dude! The only way the dodgers are able to do this, is because of the loop hole in California. Most states players do not have the option to defer. This is BS! Spending money that is not really there because of Ohtani’s major deferral that allowed all this crap to happen. MLB needs to step in and make the change to stop deferrals. If you have the money to spend that’s fine. Should not be able to spend money that is not there
DroppedThirdStrike
Everything you just said is incorrect. All states allow deferrals. Deferrals are paid for at the time, just into an account and not to the player. MLB does not have unilateral power to change deferrals in any way, even if they were having the impact you think they do, which they don’t.
gr81t2
Time for a hard cap and hard floor. Sport is supposed to fun and entertaining. Having a mega team or two that are bought (not drafted) is not so entertaining for everyone else. At some point MLB will shoot itself in the foot if there are no corrections. Don’t tell me about the billions they are making. The billions are from TV deals. And TV is dependent on viewers. If people become sick of super teams that will be a problem
LordD99
The last super team, or dynasty, was the mid-90s to early aught Yankees, who clicked off six AL pennants and four World Championships over eight years, including three straight. The sport not only survived, but its popularity increased. It’ll be fine here too.
Oldguy58
I wish the Dodgers nothing but the worse luck possible
settledownitsjustagame
Honestly, if this team doesn’t win at least 140 games and the WS in 2025 then this is all for naught.
Rays in the Bay
We said this last year and look what happened. They are not only better but also deeper. I don’t know how much more I can stomach watching MLB at this rate. My team has to be supported by a bankrupt gambling company to show games on TV, while the Dodgers are just printing money.
highflyballintorightfield
Oh no, most of these guys are signed for the next few years. They’ll be just as good in 26 and 27.
The Kaiser
Can’t wait till the Dodgers have to start paying $200 million a year in deferred payroll. What a joke
ReyDay
They money is paid now into an escrow that accumulates interest so if anything deferrals making it that much cheaper for the team since they keep whatever is left from interest.
bravesnation nc
Lockout in 27, CBA will be a nightmare
SomTeaver
I guess AJ Minter wasn’t overpaid after all…
Swingandamiss
Funny how you don’t have this small market vs large market disparity in the NFL. What league is the most popular again?
Rays in the Bay
Nor the NHL. Because they have salary caps that most teams respect. MLB has become a monopolized industry where the Dodgers are buying all the new toys.
jdgoat
Well whoever makes the NLCS or World Series is going to be Americas team. Pretty hard to see anybody being more unlikable for neutral fans.
Rays in the Bay
Imagine living in Japan and having to see the Dodgers every night on the news. It sucks.
aroid95
To everyone complaining about the Dodgers and their ways: Despite this and all the other insane contracts they’ve handed out, there is still a better chance that a team other than the Dodgers wins the World Series this year.
Digdugler
Is that supposed to mean something? If you put them at 49% chance to win the WS and the other 29 teams at 51% chance you are technically correct.
Rays in the Bay
They won the world series without half their pitchers last year. Don’t give us this BS like MLB and all the other cheap owners. Talent buys you rings in baseball. Depth is invaluable, and when the Rays’ or any other team’s 1-2 top players get injured, they will sink. If the Dodgers top 1-2 players get hurt… Here’s another top 1-2 player to take their place! Statistically you are correct but that’s a very black-and-white way to look at it.
MagRupe
FFS
bobbyvwannabe
Teams should be extra amped to take on the Dodgers. The only payback is to beat the best. They’re the World Champions. I’m far from a Dodger fan btw.
Joe S
Dodgers know how to spend their profits. They will pay more in payroll this year than Marlins have spent over the last 6 years. If Marlins are so broke, them perhaps they should move the team…oh wait what is that??? Did you say they just pocket the profits? SHOCKING!!!
Wrian Washman
It’s 2025 and we’re still having to explain to Dodgers fans the concept of population density and explain how TV deals work.
thecheddahbob
At this point, if I’m a playoff team I’m giving Kershaw what ever he wants. It’s the only way. It would appease the baseball gods. He is the messiah
ron_karate
Thanks capitalism!
Asfan0780
I wonder what 5 yrs of mason miller is worth on trade market. Although it seems A’s wont trade him and want to compete this year. But leclerc is now either 8th inning guy or closer replacement
Wrian Washman
Commissioner has the power to veto this crap didn’t a commissioner veto an Arod trade or signing?
Mikey 64
Alex Rodriguez was set to be traded to the Red Sox in 2003, The Rangers were going to receive Manny Ramirez and Jon Lester. The MLBPA forced the trade to not go through despite A-Rod, the Red Sox, and Rangers all in agreement. Something to do with the money. A-Rod was willing to be paid less to be a Red Sox, and they didn’t want that.
soxprospectsroverrated
The league taxing them at $47 million for Ohtani despite it being a $70 mill average enabled this kind of deferred nonsense.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
The Dodgers off-season has been like fantasy league….
KnicksFanCavsFan
OK now this pisses me off… haha
MrPeanutHead
The Los Angeles Deferrals of Japan.
thickiedon
I can’t stand the Dodgers but gotta admit this is fascinating lol. My beef is the escalating salaries. Hope all this doesn’t have a negative effect on players’ performances and create animosity amongst teammates.
dm867
How is this for a fix (just spitballing here): you take ALL revenue from each team, gates, concessions, parking, broadcasts, merch….all of it. Divide it equally among each team, and there’s your hard cap. That’s going to have to come with a floor as well.
Mikey 64
This is getting rather silly now. No salary caps, can defer money for decades after retirement. MLB is becoming a joke.
flagga
FIX THE SYSTEM MLB!!!! The majority of states do not allow players to Defer money. California does. The sellout Dodgers are taking advantage of a loop hole in the system that MLB will not address! How is this a level playing field for other teams. Really I cannot believe they are allowing Tanner Scott to defer money. Who is the next sell out?
DroppedThirdStrike
There are no states that do not allow deferred contracts
empirejim
Any team can defer payroll, how does it get more level than that?
JJJ returns
Should MLB also address how California has high state taxes while other states have no state taxes? That seems like an unlevel playing field.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Flagga
Many employees get deferred compensation. It is not illegal in the majority of states as you claim. You are just making stuff up.
This is an issue for collective bargaining.
padrepapi
Like a 457 plan? I’m trying to think of a scenario of an employee deferring their compensation that will pay them today’s amount years or decades down the road. Rather than deferring a portion that the employee is able to invest and grow into a higher amount. If an employee gets a 5% return on that deferred money it will have doubled in 14.5 years.
McGurk
This is false, please stop spreading ignorant ass lies.
christopher8002
We have finally reached the once-unfathomable point where I would root for the Mets or Yankees to beat LA in a series.
Datashark
This is absurd – MLB has a major problem there is no competitive balance anymore…this screams hard cap needed.
They might as well cancel all-star game because they are mostly on one team
RustysWorld6986
Talk about building a dynasty ?? WTH !!
bpflyers1
So tired of this! Time for a hard cap on spending in the MLB! Also, my Phillies again fail to sign the best reliever available when they obviously need to strengthen their bullpen!
BITA
Were you tired of it when the Phillies were spending money like fools the last few years?
Doesn’t sound like you were……
Thec’s
The fix is in just like all of the sporting world! It’s all about the money! Just stop watching. The Chiefs games have been fixed the last three years! Labron always gets his way! It’s all fixed to sucker people in thru gambling, paying outrageous prices for watching the games, sports memorabilia sales. It’s all fixed! Just stop caring
Rays in the Bay
Yup! As soon as gambling seeped its way into sports, it immediately made them all into WWE performances. The NFL is so bad at hiding it.
King Floch
This is fine.
derail76
I’ve been a Dodgers fan for almost 50 years, and this is starting to feel surreal. It’s sort of ridiculous what they’re doing right now. And with what is at the very least, a top 3 farm system. Good luck, baseball.
Bruce wulff
As the love fest at the cubs convention mercifully comes to an end today, wonder if any fan asked tickets if the cubs offered Scott anywhere near $7m. I’d say no way.
Braves Butt-Head
At least it’s not like the Chiefs where the NFL is rigging the system to have the refs cheat for them because Travis Kelce is dating Taylor Swift and they want to turn Patrick Maholmes into the NFLs Michael Jordon.
The Dodgers are doing it the old fashioned way and just buying a world championship like George Steinbrenner intended.
Chester Copperpot
Dodgers are bad for baseball. I will not watch them at all this year. If that means I miss the World Series, so be it. This is supposed to be competitive sports.
dodgerfan
I bet more will watch in hopes the Dodgers get beat….having a villain always adds to the excitement. FYI, if they don’t win the next 6 World Series in a row, I’m not looking forward to all the comments and jokes from other fans. But even with that said, I’ll take an organization that does what all sports organization is supposed to do, win. I’m not sure why more fans on here are not holding their team’s organization accountable.
billysbballz
I get a kick out of the comments on here. The Yankees were always in on free agents but when they built that dynasty it was through the draft with homegrown players. They made trades as well and were in on big free agents. They have a great tv deal and put back into the team what they made but what’s happening now is totally unprecedented. Let’s start with the Mets. They trade two untradeable contracts in Scherzer and Verlander by sending the money owed which was close to 100m with the players for prospects. Never happened in part and they and the Dodgers are the only teams that financially can do it and the fact mlb didn’t question those trades definitely started the craziness. Than paying a DH in Soto 800m was another level of craziness. The Dodgers signing Ohtani and deferribgbthe entire contract pretty much is legal but again mlb should immediately step on and ensure it doesn’t happen again. The Dodgers sign Yamamoto last season and then have a secret hand shake with Roki this season and immediately after sign Tanner Scott with deferred money.
This is crazy. I’m all for free market by this is just controlling it.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Billy
You are just making up the secret handshake.
Look everyone knew Roki was leaning toward playing for the Dodgers, but he had no need to commit himself when he knew 30 teams wanted him.
KcsMsFan
I mean… is it really impressive or an accomplishment to win a world series when you just pay for it? Me, personally, watching one team pay their way to the top in free agency while watching my own team try to determine which .200 hitter they think is better to fill the hole at 2nd and the hole at 3rd just makes it so I won’t be watching a single game this year after watching every single game last year. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
You have to create a competitive balance in the league if you want to keep fan interest. Unless Dodgers fans plan to watch every game of every team this year, this is absolutely horrible for baseball.
dodgerfan
Great weekend for the Dodgers….LFG!!!!
Mickey Solis
Bring out the clown pieces of s*** defending this team. You all really earned your rings. Why develop when you can just buy.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Mickey
Did you get upset when Rangers signed Seager away from the Dodgers?
mad1
The LA deferrals strike again
Phyguy0880
When the Dodgers fail this year, we can all come back and have a hearty laugh.
thickiedon
Remember when star players took pay cuts to compete for championships?
Mickey Solis
The insecure greedy pr*cks need to keep buying to keep their whiny fans happy during the wildfires with all these purchases of “need.” I’m glad we can just focus on who gets second place next year since these pigs already bought another few titles.
Supersc
Always “hated” the Dodgers growing up as a Giants fan half a century ago, but then I hated the Yankees more, they were so perinially good.
The next CBA will be an opportunity to tinker with the rules.
– no salary cap will ever be imposed, just tightening the screws and increasing the pain with the luxury tax
– perhaps a salary floor
– an end to deferral of salaries
– An international draft of amateurs
– Rethinking the lottery for the draft that currently penalizes losing seasons too much. Maybe have a lottery for the worst 3 or 5 or 7.
– end the QO that folks like LA use to their advantage
– pool 1/4 or half of local media revenue to be shared equally across MLB
The playing field needs to be levelled somewhat, by bigger tweaks, not major surgery, so fans can feel engaged. LA and NY are gonna LA/NY no matter what, but most teams need a biscuit or two thrown their way.
Rays in the Bay
Oh ye have much faith in the league and owners and players. I’d love to see a video of Manfred convincing owners to implement a floor. Not gonna happen.
I think Manfred is absolutely satisfied with what’s happening, and most owners probably don’t care if the Dodgers are a superteam. I have little faith that the league nor owners care even 1% about fans.
Instead, his focus will be on implementing automatic balls/strikes
Review pickoff rules
And that’s about it.
To be fair, I agree with all of these fixes.
TellItGoodbye
Def need to end the deferral workaround. Too bad it can’t be retroactive.
drdback
This needs to end and I know how to stop this from re-occurring if the owners and MLBPA would agree to these stipulations:
Any team that exceeds the luxury tax threshold, even if just by a dollar, should be imposed a fine equivalent to that team’s entire payroll for the year. Additionally, they should lose ALL draft picks for the season and not be allotted any additional funds for international pool spending. Repeated violations of the luxury tax threshold should result in even stiffer penalties. If only the owners and players would agree to this but probably won’t happen because of their greed for $$$.
DroppedThirdStrike
What would all the small market teams do without their luxury tax payments?
BigGarg
The only silver lining is they’ll run out of roster spots soon. This is comical at this point. Can’t do anything but laugh. And Dodgers fans will act like there’s no problem here.
MetsRTrash
Dodgers just playin MLB The Show now.
Funny thing is, the only non-Dodger fans who generally aren’t hating right now are the long-time Yankee fans who remember when they were at the top of the food chain.
Strange bedfellows indeed.
drdback
Forgot to mention these stipulations should apply to any team that exceeds the luxury tax threshold for three consecutive years.
SeanStL
I think they will sign Bregman and Alonso too.
TellItGoodbye
I seriously hope they do. I want them to sign everyone. I want them to win every game from February to November. That’s the only way MLB will fix a very broken system.
O'sSayCanYouSee
Lmao. At this point it’s funny. Good for LAD.
BigA 3
Good chance Baseball could be ruining itself. NFL and NBA have a set amount each team can pay. Other owners than the dodgers just might play hardball with the players union and lock them out to stop the insanity.
Gwynning
Of course he is…
I never root against any team, but there’s a little piece of me that hopes the Dodgers don’t win another title for awhile.
Go Pads!
Brew’88
Ma4170
It feels like they have 83 roster spots
Doug
Can a trade for Vlad Jr. be far behind? $500 mil payroll, let’s go!
GOBLUE37
The dodgers aren’t ruining baseball: they’re helping grow the sport. It’s also not just us doing the deferrals, since the D-backs did it with Burnes. This is a great signing that locks down the bullpen and he will be our dominant closer.
ohyeadam
Time to stop following regularly. Too depressing
Datashark
Betting dds for Dodgers – I would not be surprised if its like this now
win NL pennant you pay $450 to win $1
Win WS you pay $250 to win $1
why bet on any other team at this point its a huge risk but maybe they have ton injuries but a team with 8-12 or so all-stars….that would need alot of injuries
Redstitch108* 2
Dodgers are not making this fun.
BLIN7Y
The Commish could void some of these moves in the “Best Interest of Baseball”, ala Bowie Kuhn.
What’s happening is Players want to play on a Winner. They don’t want to help make a Team a Winner, they want to join the one that’s currently on Top.
They are copying what happened in the NBA.
The League benefits as the Dodgers will be a big draw but that can backfire if the team dominates so much as to make the other teams games unwatchable. Actual viewing revenue could decrease.
DroppedThirdStrike
Kuhn stopped the trade of Blue to the Reds because Finley was dumping players for ridiculously lopsided trades on purpose, threatening the integrity of the game, not because it made the Reds too good.
Stieb Cooperstown
the Dodgers are turning into the Globetrotters making visits to your hometown to face your Generals
Echopark
Dodgers fan here. This is the money that was earmarked for Flaherty if Sasaki signed elsewhere. To me, this was a signing too far. Dodgers are drunk spending right now. Too much for a reliever. And no matter how good on paper, you need to win 11 in October and that’s a different kind of baseball. My comfort is the Dodgers understand money better than other teams do. For a fan, this is what you want. Ownership taking all the profits and reinvesting them as opposed to pocketing them. And Dodgers are kind of in a once in a lifetime position because of Ohtani and Sasaki. And coming off WS profits + Ohtani profits. . But I feel 2023 Mets nervous!!
Echopark
Also, they need at least one roster spot right away. And I think they will need to start trading more people. But that’s why they want a Sirota and a comp pick for Lux. And if they make more trades, expect prospects coming back with years before Rule 5 eligibility.
Brew’88
Well, if you’re nervous, imagine how we all feel?
shibbynotdude
Do the math and Conforto, Teoscar, and Scott add up to the money they were willing to give to Soto. They pivoted when bidding got to high and this is what they got.
foppert3
Ha ha. Dodgers are fearless.
It’s at the point where I think they might know their business partners are pissed and change is coming. Loading up while they still can.
empirejim
He’s been on the market for some time now, its not like other gm’s couldnt have made a move. Cry all you want, but the Dodgers are a lot more serious about winning than the rest of the league
Wren
Dodger fans are going to the stadium next year thinking they deserve to see a win every single game.
Echopark
We already do that. It’s called a winning culture. And it’s been there long before Ohtani and Yamamoto. And what’s followed.
bruinlife33
Why even watch baseball and go to ballparks. Let’s hit them where it hurt$
area 51
It’s been reported that in year one of Ohtani the Dodgers made 120 million just off of him. Dodgers principal ownership group Guggenheim has 355 billion in assets.
Interesting article in NY Times spells it out.
Are the Dodgers exploiting a play-now, pay-later model? Examining how deferrals really work
differentbears
Deferrals are invested now by Guggenheim to grow them to the amount to be paid when they’re due. This has been covered ad nauseam yet so many don’t seem to know this (not saying you don’t).
The Dodgers are putting the current value of each player’s deferred salary into investments today.
At some point, when it’s revealed that the Dodgers made extra money on these investments beyond what they owed the players in salary, the same people complaining now will suddenly understand how it worked and complain about how that should’ve been illegal. *shrug*
highflyballintorightfield
Whiney fans: MLB is ruining the game! They must have a salary cap and international draft, and ban salary payment deferrals!
MLB: We’ve wanted those all along but the union hasn’t agreed. We’ll make sure we get them in the next CBA.
MLBPA: Nuh-uh.
[2 year work stoppage]
Whiney fans: MLB is ruining the game! Give the players what they want!
Rays in the Bay
To be fair, the ruining of the game is happening from all sides. The league, the owners, and the players. They all have a hand in what’s happening now and making MLB likely unwatchable. Not very fun when you know which team is gonna be in the NLCS almost every year.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
This deferred money is a joke. I hope the Dodgers do not win another World Series for decades. I used to hate the Yankees but the Dodgers have taken over that for me. The good part is the manager is a fool.
Lalo says show me
I guess the dodgers figured they saved so much on sasaki why not add Scott
Good for them
And everyone saying their gm sucks for not signing Scott to a similar deal…what makes you think he didn’t prefer the dodgers situation instead, all things generally being equal money wise
coloredpaper
Tbf, I don’t think Scott will hold up for that duration of the contract though. Before last year, he had quite a bit of control issues.
Source: fantasy league bros
_Soulrocker_
I’m done with baseball until we have a league that wants what’s best for the whole league, not just who has the biggest pockets.
coloredpaper
Damn, these deferred contracts are gonna bite them in the arse later ahahaha
Lalo says show me
If they get multiple titles out of it who cares
area 51
It’s an investment now with the money being made now. Set aside for payment later.
Every team has the opportunity to do this. But are afraid to try
TellItGoodbye
All the other teams should just start offering up all their best players to the Dodger$, trade em away for whatever, dump payroll en masse, let L.A. go 162-0, and tank MLB until they figure out how to stop this madness. Unless you’re one of their fans, what fun is this season going to be to just watch Los Japangeles Dodger$ win every game?
BennyG1919
It’s not gonna be fun…I’m no longer a baseball fan it’s just pure non sense now. I was a Jays fan and my team is TRYING to spend money and no one will take it. Everyone just wants to play in the armpit of America LA. Seriously it’s a disgusting, drug ridden, stupidly congested, suburban sprawl. They have a few neighborhoods that are nice and the rest of the city is a dumpster fire. Downtown is a ghost town full of zombies, I really don’t get it…
politicsNbaseball
The Jays lost out on two players to the dodgers, both of whom were from Japan and wanted to be on the west coast. There are plenty of free agents the Jays could have signed, I’d blame their front office more than anything.
UGA_Steve
As much as I dislike what is happening with the Dodgers and for the good of baseball, this point about the Jays is entirely true. They need to figure out what about 24 of the other teams have figured out … don’t even try to get the best .. it won’t happen even if you offer more. Players don’t want to earn a ring, they want it to be gifted to them. It started in the NBA with prima-donna’s forcing their teams hands so they could join or create super-teams rather than actually competing.
The amount of money the Jays were trying to throw around could have brought in five of the top 15 free agentrs, but they were so narrowly focused on one or two they had zero chance of getting that it almost looks like it was done on purpose.
How do we make it look like we are triyng to spend money without being forced to spend any? I know … let’s throw out big numbers publicly to players we know will never join our team. We can say we tried, act like victims, and not have to worry about actually spending anything. Eureka!
momTurphy
It’s important to remember that the Dodgers are spending ridiculous, massive amounts of money BECAUSE teams have proven over and over again the past 25 years that you can win without spending much money.
Brew’88
huh?
momTurphy
5 of 12 playoff teams last year were in bottom 1/3 of payroll. 4/6 in the AL.
In 2023 it was only 4/12 but the 20th highest payroll made the World Series.
2022 saw bottom 1/3 teams in payroll only take 3/12 playoff spots. But that was half of the AL spots.
You don’t have to spend money to be successful in MLB anymore like you had to in the 90s so the Dodgers are trying to make sure having the biggest payroll also helps them win.
Ma4170
But the ones who win the WS have typically been top 10 payroll, at least last 10 years or so. But its no guarantee, thats true
Remember the yankees in 2001 added mussina and 2002 giambi to a team that had won 4 of 5 years and didnt win anything w them. Its not so easy to repeat.
ny papi
“We don’t quite need him but we’re gonna sign him anyways”
BrianJohn
Who else has the Dodgers signing the polar bear next?
Denden
Corners and DH are Muncy, Freeman, Ohtani. Where would they put him
Informed Sportsball Discussion
The Coca Cola polar bear is presumably available too.
kenphelps44
Ok Dodger haters whose team is the recipient of revenue sharing, take a step for a second and assess the lay of the land. Of course, you realize that 50% of the luxury tax money goes to subsidize “charity case” teams. Hell, those teams that don’t want to spend on free agents, or who did nothing more than to kick the tires on FAs for window dressing for the fans, are probably cheering on the Dodgers spending because it means more money in their coffers. The revenue sharing money is meant to help keep teams competitive, not to line the billionaire owner’s pockets with windfall money. Some of those very teams are publicly saying they want to cut salary. Maybe the fans of those teams should start calling out those owners for not spending the money for what it was intended to do.
pando8888
Dodgers owned by billionaires. Other teams are not except for the Mets who shelled out $80mm for a one dimensional player.
kenphelps44
Ah, no, not true. They are all owned fully, or in part, by billionaires. Just to name a few, the Brewers, Twins, Rays, Angels, Diamondbacks, Padres…
UGA_Steve
Ok delusional ken, put the shoe on the other foot.
1) your team offers a big contract or two but gets snubbed for big market teams where marketing dollars can enahnace salaries even further
2) your team has zero chance of competing year in and year out and has to pray for a really lucky run where everything falls into place just to get to the playoffs, and even more luck to win a series
3) rinse and repeat, but with current CBA and deferred money, the deep pocket teams can widen the gap even further
If if these owners could sign one or two decent free agents (I give the Reds a couple of years ago as an example), why would they really want to? You can’t compete long term financially. You profit margin is essentially NIL at best as is, and a few teams easily rake in ten figures in profit (yes, the Dodgers and Yankees especially are so ridiculously profitable that revenue sharing is laughable).
Stop beating on the the fans of the teams that are getting screwed.
Stop acting like the Dodgers are doing what any other team could easily do.
Start to realize that if the Dodgers wanted to have the same % of profitability as other teams, they would have to spend 4-5 times what they are currently spending, rather than giving them undue credit for putting out money. This money to them is insignificant.
s.drinkwater
If there’s a work stoppage in ‘27 it’s not the Dodgers fault. The MLBPA love the Dodgers its owners like Reinsdorf, Sherman or Nutting who pocket revenue sharing and never spend it on their teams. Every team, even the Marlins and A’s turn a profit. No one is going broke owning a baseball team. If there were there wouldn’t be a line of billionaires ready to buy one.
BennyG1919
When are they gonna sign Pete Alonso for their bench?
area 51
Dodgers become first to sign player from South Sudan
Motor City Beach Bum
Dodgers news every day. It’s like the other teams don’t exist
momTurphy
Dodgers are worth approximately 5.5 Billion, South Sudans GDP was approximately 7.5 Billion (USD) in 2023.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Who are they gonna dfa to put Scott on their 26 Man roster? I didn’t think they had enough room for another player. More than half their pitchers are starters.
You gotta think Miller or Fraggle Rock May are expendable.
TellItGoodbye
Conforto is so gone. He was their worst signing. Also, they know half their pitching staff will be shelved soon enough due to their “genius” “innovative” analytical coaching causing TJs up the yingyang. There will be plenty of openings.
Gwynning
It’s weird to think that you might be right, TIG. I mean that with all due respect!
Sign a guy to a large contract… just to DFA him weeks later. Can’t trade Conforto, not until June at the earliest and they’ll need a spot a lot sooner than that. Crazy times! Probably a couple “other” trades happening soon… or they just cut CT. All the best, fellas
highflyballintorightfield
MLBTR said in a chat that Gonsolin can still be optioned.
DroppedThirdStrike
Banda or Vesia
Gwynning
Yeah, on 2nd thought maybe Vesia is out of a job now. He did so well in ’24, what a helluva (possible) DFA!
❤️ MuteButton
Is baseball broken? Is free agency the way it is disgusting to the average fan?
DAWE
For whatever reason one feels disgust regarding the star NPB players, MLB free agents and MLB conspiring to build a super team, there are very simple steps that can be taken.
When the Dodgers come to your team’s stadium, do not attend. “Empty” stadiums speak volumes.
Do not view either televised or streamed Dodger games even when they play your team. It will speak volumes when “Golden Girls” reruns become more popular than Dodger games.
Gwynning
I’ve already sold or given away all my ’25 Dodger/Padre tix! Haha, no joke.
DroppedThirdStrike
Dodgers led the league in road attendance last year, despite playing zero road games at baseball’s largest venue, Dodger Stadium.
kenphelps44
Interesting that you should say this because it truly sounds like you are throwing up the white flag to the Dodgers before your team even plays them. It makes it sound like you don’t think your team should even be on the same playing field as them. That’s not how you really feel, is it? You probably realize that teams hosting the Yankees promote the hell out of the series because it is likely to be the highest draw of the year thus making money for you team, who, really ought to be spending that money to either keep their players or sign free agents. I heard the same thing about the Yankees years ago, stay home, don’t watch them, and what happened? The road attendance went up for precisely the reason fans wanted to see their team beat the Yankees. Every time fans come to the game the teams obviously have a chance to make a ton of money selling merch, concessions and parking.
Gwynning
All fair points ken, and I for one am waving no white flag. To understand the brevity of our situation, the Dodger games already attract the “less desirable” Blue fans that you’d want to sit next to for 3 hours plus. They’re already obnoxious af (mostly… not all, of course!) and my family and I want nothing to do with their obtuseness. [On the whole]
kenphelps44
If a player really wants to play for a team committed to put a winner on the field, just pure speculation on my part, I think that player would be asking himself if at the trade deadline will this team make a trade and take on salary to bolster its post-season chances or would they stand pat, as teams have in the past, and not go out and get that player to put them over the hump. There are obviously many factors in a player deciding where to sign, including the money, but is likely to be one of them that the team is truly committed to winning, unless of course you are a hitter coming off a down season and needs to pad his offensive stats by signing a short term deal with Colorado and then cash in on his inflated stats after the deal runs out.
jmaggio76
Love that you mentioned parking lol
cplwhite
Deferment need to stop. They say we gotta make all teams equal. Yet this is allowed. A spending floor and ceiling need to be put in place with no deferred money .
johncoltrane
La deferrals alredy have 3 closers
Now they add 4th
Captain_Bigelow
Lifelong Dodgers fan here. I sat through the McCourt years and before. Must admit I am starting to get a bit embarrassed with all these signings, and totally get other team’s frustration. But the Dodgers didn’t write the rules. They are playing within them and utilizing them to their advantage as all teams can and should.
I honestly think this is the Ohtani effect. $102m a year in off field revenue it was reported last season for the Dodgers. That not only pays for Otahni’s contract, but Tanner Scott, Snell and may be others. Best baseball contract ever for commercial revenue. True global sports icon who pulls in the $$$ from corporations and sponsorships.
Gwynning
You’re right, and I’m not crying… but how is that fair to, say… Cincinnati or Tampa? Complete imbalance in effect. That being said, go Padres!
pando8888
And he is a gambler who got away with it. Dodgers are ruining baseball.
CrikesAlready
Ahhh, but there is going to be the new pastime of baseball fans of seeing the Dodgers lack chemistry and blow tons of money on subpar performances.
Blake Snell is all about Blake. If it’s not a contract year, he has admitted of putting in a subpar effort during spring training. His last year with the Padres, he announced he was going to work hard to be ready at the beginning of the year. Hahaha!
One thing about the Sasaki signing is the fact that he hasn’t thrown an American baseball a thousand times. It’s not just a matter of weight, but the girth in the hand is going to change his mechanics. Especially if he’s trying to throw it 100 mph.
At least Dave Roberts is at the helm. Dave is a good guy and I think he knows how to work with personalities better than most. The Padres really screwed up by not making him their manager. The Padres are like the chargers, management and ownership missteps and laziness doom long-term success.
Motor City Beach Bum
Prediction: Phillies finish first iverall in the NL, the Dodgers win their division and make the playoffs but don’t even make the Division finals. Phillies and SD battle it out instead after Preller magically fills all his holes just like last year.
Gwynning
I like how you think, Bummer! Cheers braddha
Brew’88
Bingo. But which team plays the Tigers in the WS?
junior25
Baseball is done if they dont stop this
HiredGun23
Still gotta go out and play the season. So much can happen that can change a team’s fortune..
Bring San Diego Fleet to the NFL
lol couple years ago mlb was ready to step in and veto the contract between judge and padres
Now they’re literally not vetoing any deferred payment deals dodgers make no matter how many there are
MLB is a joke and slowly falling down the rankings
The World Series for outwatched by
Super Bowl where everyone sees the bias in the refs towards KC esp after yesterday and still gets more views
NBA chamoionship
College football playoffs
Men’s and women’s march madness championships
MLB World Series
MLB deserves the 6th place finish
Informed Sportsball Discussion
At the time, MLB nixing that deal seemed reasonable.
Now, it looks like a complete farce. If the Pads had just paid Judge $2 million a year for the first ten years, they’d have apparently been fine.
Not that Judge would have signed with San Diego anyway.
unglar
Wow. MLB has a problem. I expect Manfred to deny it exists and keep his eyes shut with fingers in his ear.
Im a little too young but was this the feeling fans had in the late 90s early 00s when the Yankees would buy all the top tier talent?
BITA
I am also a little too young to remember but I think a lot of the Yankees team was homegrown. The Dodgers are just buying their team.
whyhayzee
Pretty much, but it was the Yankees so it was ok. Entitlement.
Motor City Beach Bum
I remember it well and that was exactly how it felt.
84LeFlore
Ridiculous. Maybe the commish should add a pre-season draft so that the Dodgers can fill out their roster with their choices from the other 29 Major League rosters.
Low IQ Angels Management
This just in: Dodgers sign Pete Alonzo to 1 year $40 million deal, with $39 million deferred, to backup Freddy Freeman.
jmaggio76
lol
YeOlToddster
This is well beyond ridiculous at this point!
SupremeZeus
The penny-pinching owners and poorly run FOs are loving these developments. Diverting the ire and pressure from their mismanagement and failures to a well run successful organization. Brilliant.
pando8888
Most teams are not owned by billionaires. Check your facts!
jmaggio76
lol
Therealeman
Pay everyone in 10 years and sign them all. Just give them the damn trophy.
whyhayzee
The Dodgers have just signed Ted Williams cryogenically frozen head to a 200 year contract awaiting the technology to reincarnate baseball’s all time greatest hitter.
The Big Yo
Is there any point playing the 2025 season at this point. This is getting ridiculous. Surely there has to be some rule against one team just getting whoever they want when they want
Sunday Lasagna
The Dodgers didn’t sign the top free agent batter or pitcher, Soto and Burnes, nor do they appear to be interested in the #3 rank Free Agent Alex Bregman
Instead they signed 32nd ranked Free agent Conforto to play RF, international FA Sasaki for the rotation and 26th ranked Free Agent Kim to help the infield.
Could have been Soto, Burnes and Bregman, but it is Conforto, Sasaki and Kim.
Dodgers didn’t buy the best, they bought solidly but not the best,
Dodgers signed the #4 Snell to replace the #8 rank free agent Flaherty
Teoscar re-signed
37th ranked Free Agent Buehler went away
Dodgers signed the #14 overall and top ranked reliever
The Dodgers actions on paper just don’t seem so overwhelming, but they sure have caused a lot of anger.
foppert3
Geez. When you put it like that…..
Good post.
RickEO
Just stupid now
21Clemente21
What a joke baseball is. What is next move by Dodgers, surely they need some bench players like Anthony Santander and Pete Alonzo
Bosox2013
Bruh…..
The Chicago Cubs
This is crazyyyyy. The dodgers will in 140 games next season.
vikingbluejay67
I wonder what will be the hot topic in the chat tonight?
differentbears
Blame the Trashtros.
Big Hurt
Right now, the Dodgers backup catcher is Austin Barnes. Shameful lack of roster depth. I recommend they trade for Adley Rutchman or William Contreras to backup Will Smith if they want to make a serious run at a repeat.
differentbears
And Dalton Rushing, who can play the OF. He’ll get some time this year.
Chasingamymatt
Honest question as i’m not on MLB rules. Any deferred contracts have their value put into an account to ensure they get paid what is signed? If so from a players POV i get it as its guaranteed money down the road.. But does it go against the Luxury Tax? if not fair play to Dodgers for gaming the system and making a great roster but whats the tipping point? do Dodgers have to take into account those payments for x years on their payroll? No hate just curious on the logistics
differentbears
The money is set aside now. The Dodgers invest it and it’ll grow to about what they owe, perhaps even making a little extra for their trouble… as a treat.
The present day value is figured into the luxury tax numbers.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
FFS.
This is ridiculous.
sufferforsnakes
Seriously, MLB and the Players Union need to address this deferred-money garbage system being abused, especially by the Dodgers. There needs to be limitations enacted.
jmaggio76
100% agreed
CrikesAlready
Peter Seidler set the Padres up for failure by spending a bunch of money, not getting good chemistry out of that money and not building the farm system, but rather using it as a bank.
The Padres can’t play on the Dodgers level of finances. The market is smaller, they’ve mishandled things like their radio contract by putting the Padres flagship station on the FM dial, they’re just doomed.
Seidler was spending money knowing he was going to die young. He’s put multiple anchors around the Padres neck. Now that there are reasonable people not suffering from chemo brain running the show, they have to run the business wisely. Add in the fact that Peter’s widow is suing those who are running the show now, it’s a shitshow.
johncoltrane
Mlbtr should create 2nd website just for la deferrals
This site remains for the other 29 tms
jmaggio76
the next VBS really should address this deferment crap. it’s really nonsense.
bigmike0424
All mlb teams have former players who had deferrals.. So let stop bring that Dodgers are playing the loophole with free agency it nothing new..
Yankeesforever
When it comes to Dodger games, the question wont be who is winning but how much are the Dodgers winning by?!
But let’s be honest here, at this point, the season is a wash for Dodger fans.
Anything less than steamrolling through the postseason to a WS win will make the Dodgers the laughing-stock of baseball.
sergefunction
This is honestly getting unendurable as a baseball fan.
What is going to happen if / when they have 27 underwater contracts in 3 to 4 years is going to be an interesting question.
My take(s) include(s) the Dodgers have inside info that a huge meteor ☄️ is coming to destroy humanity thus rendering moot all questions, and they want to win in the meantime,
☄️ ☄️ ☄️
chiefnocahoma1
That was my thinking. All other 29 fan bases need to relentlessly boo them when they come to town. Let them know how much they’re hated. That’s all we can really do.
Skyrider123
This is just getting laughable now. I guess the rest of the league will just battle it out for the intercontinental championship since the Dodgers have the world title locked up for the foreseeable future.
rhandome
lulz
Bruce wulff
Dodgers should easily surpass wins in a season- my predictions 130 plus! Party over turn off the lights. No reason to play now. Only obstacle in their way are injuries but even then the dodgers obviously have the finances to do whatever they have to do. Normally go to 30 plus games a year- this year can count on one hand because of the cost.
shibbynotdude
Congrat to everyone who says this is ruining baseball. You have fallen for the billionaire narratives. The same billionaires who fleece cities out of money to build stadiums with the promises of an improved team. When they dont deliver, they blame the players. Rickets Cub fans is using your money to pay his debt for buying the Cubs so His team is more valuable. Stop falling for the narative!
seamaholic 2
I’m sorry sir, it’s you who are falling for the narrative. A narrative established by a hedge fund who owns the Dodgers, of all things.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
If I am teams with a lower payroll I would do everything to improve their minor leagues and scouting budgets.
Maximize your investments there.
Try to find as many international and US prospects. Stay out of Free agency but still make trades. Market your team as family friendly entertainment. Give multi game discounts on tickets, parking, food, merchandise and other perks with partners (game streamers)
Also expand NO alcohol seating sections to lessen
New CBA contract coming after 2026 season.
Don’t chase LAD and similar teams.
Mo's Bowtie
Note to Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, or any other mega-billionaire: Please buy the Cardinals and the Dodgers. Trade the entire Dodger team to the Cards for Nolan Arenado. Thanks
wvsteve
As a fan of a small market team, congratulations Dodgers fans. Every body else has had several months to make their team better and they are simply sitting back and watching the Dodgers do nothing but trying to position themselves to win another title.
runningwithnailclippers
People who are saying that payroll doesn’t matter on winning the World Series (or that it’s not as important as presumed), are wrong. Literally, since 1995, 20 of the 29 winners have been top 10 payrolls. Should some of the cheaper owners start spending more cash? Yes. Will they without a payroll cap and min? no. That’s where the problem lies. (Including the inherent problem with revenue-sharing that gives cheap owners a crutch).
mlbdodgerfan2015
I guess we might as well hand the WS trophy to the Dodgers for the next 4-5 years based on these comments. Talk about crying way too early.
If I was a betting man I’d still take the field over the Dodgers to win the ‘25 WS. That’s how grueling and unpredictable MLB postseason can be.
And for those of you that are quitting baseball over this. Bye! Proves you weren’t a serious fan to begin with. I endured the stretch from 1988 to 2020 just fine, even though it was painful and many times obvious that the team was not close to WS level. Love of the game goes deeper than winning WS even if that’s the goal.
BITA
The Dodgers were a WS level team in the 2000s they just choked when it mattered.
You would take the field of 29 years over 1 team. Wow what a statement.
sacko
This is great for baseball, jays have no choice but to meet Vlads number. Other teams gotta stop being lame and pay the players.
Calsurf
Go look at revenue and payroll. Teams like Boston, SF, Chicago have top 7 revenue but rank outside top 12 payroll. You have the money. Your owners just pocket it.
BITA
You are making stuff up.
seamaholic 2
The Dodgers make far more profit than any of those teams.
Yoyosoxsox
This wouldn’t be fun if I were a dodgers fan. This has become the globetrotters vs the general’s.
differentbears
Well you’re not. Me? I’m having a blast.
seamaholic 2
Root for insurance companies over sick people, do you?
mrmackey
Breaking: Dodgers sign Pete Alonso as backup 1b/DH and pinch hitter.
Breaking: Dodgers sign Jack Flaherty as long reliever.
AIM
The LA Deferrals
Scott Kliesen
Before we get to Spring Training the Dodgers will be able to field a JV team that could win the NL West, if their Varsity team wasn’t there.
runningwithnailclippers
Talking about making a manager a future Hall of Famer the easy way. I wonder how giddy Dave Roberts gets each offseason?
TellItGoodbye
And next year we get to see Vlad on the Dodger$. Won’t that be fun? Unless of course there’s a 6-month old Japanese phenom that Friedman has already signed.
True2theorange&blue
Why even bother having the season at this point? Just save the other teams time and just give them the trophy.
Old York
Good to see one team improving in the offseason. Too bad the other teams are doing nothing.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
618 comments and counting WoW!
So many clicks and eyeballs.
MLBTr is definitely increasing their price to run ads
Raking in the US, Canadian and Latin American currency
Good for You!
Can we create a new Non LAD Championship?
Can they b re-named the Globemashers?
Could every starter in the ASG be a LAD. Faceplant ARGH.
CO Guardening
They gotta knock it the f off with this deferred money bs. Manfred is spineless. Specifically targets small market teams strategies in the sake of “speeding up the game” and does f all to talent grabs by rich mediocre organizations like the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees who need every little bit of assistance from MLB to be relevant and above the rest of the league.
kam3hameha
Just gets worse and worse. FTD and at this point all of MLB.
Huck 3
Now the Dodgers have become this generation’s Yankees. I can both admire that and wish for them to fail, all at the same time. And that’s not cognitive dissonance because those are not mutually exclusive opinions. LOL
AM21
MLB needs a hard cap
PsychologyVan
I am fine with the concept of having a soft cap, but something needs to be done to change this, either by changing the rules on deferment or having a hard cap. Deferment should be used in a Bobby Bonilla way, not in a Tanner Scott, Ohtaini way
stwawk
Have the Dodgers been granted an exception to MLB’s roster cap? I’ve lost all respect for these players who continue to accept deferrals from the LAD. They’re helping to enable this egregious anti competitive behavior.
OilCanLloyd
Good for Dodgers! 162 is a long season. Anything can and does happen. Anything short of World Series will probably viewed as a failure.
rellime 2
It’s not even funny to read anymore. This is boring and something needs to change.