10:10PM: The Padres are also looking to trade for more int’l signing pool space, MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand writes (multiple links). More teams than just the Sasaki suitors are also exploring such trades, as an executive tells Feinsand that “other teams are recognizing opportunities” to be aggressive in the international market.
9:07PM: The 23-year-old Roki Sasaki is considered an international free agent due to his age, as league rules dictate, and thus his impending arrival to the big leagues has brought extra attention to the int’l free agent acquisition process, which officially began today with the opening of the signing window. The race to sign Sasaki isn’t technically a bidding war since the money on offer is limited by the bonus pool structure, and Sasaki’s willingness to make the jump to the majors so early in his career indicates that salary isn’t his chief priority.
Nevertheless, that doesn’t mean the three teams reportedly remaining in the hunt for Sasaki won’t try to add a few extra dollars to their offers. Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times reports that the Dodgers have engaged multiple teams in “exploratory” discussions about trading for extra money from their bonus pools, though there doesn’t appear to be any indication that any deals are close.
Clubs are permitted to trade from their bonus pools in increments of $250K, and teams are allowed to add to their pre-existing pools by as much as 60 percent of their original number. The Dodgers’ 2025 pool was reduced by $1MM due to their signing of Shohei Ohtani last winter, as Ohtani rejected the Angels’ qualifying offer and the Dodgers were a luxury-tax paying team in 2023, which left Los Angeles with $5,146,200 to work with for this year’s international class.
This amount is tied with the Giants for the lowest pool of any team. The Blue Jays and Padres (the other Sasaki finalists) have a pool size of $6,261,600, giving them a bit extra to work with in terms of paying Sasaki, or spending on other int’l talents should Sasaki sign elsewhere. Should all three teams trade for the maximum amount of extra pool space, the Dodgers would have approximately $8,223,920 to offer Sasaki, while Toronto and San Diego could offer him $10,018,560.
As noted earlier, Sasaki likely isn’t going to base his decision on what will ultimately end up being pretty similar offers from his three suitors. This could be why the Dodgers are apparently not yet pushing too hard to add to their pool space, as Sasaki might end up signing elsewhere anyway. Harris also notes that for the Dodgers (and presumably the Padres and Blue Jays), there’s a lack of leverage in such trade talks, as rival teams know full well that int’l bonus money is of particular importance as the clock ticks down towards January 23 and the close of Sasaki’s posting window.
International pool space is usually not considered a hugely valuable trade asset in general, though naturally teams trying to amass extra money to complete a signing may think otherwise. Earlier today, we saw the Giants acquire extra pool money in a pair of trades, as Blake Sabol was sent to the Red Sox and Will Kempner was dealt to the Marlins. These additional funds helped San Francisco boost its $5,146,200 figure, and probably helped the team land its top signing — highly-touted Dominican shortstop prospect Josuar De Jesus Gonzalez, who got a bonus of $2,997,500.
The other wrinkle on the trade front is that teams with bonus space to spare might want to keep that money themselves for more signings, rather than deal it away. The team has lands Sasaki will have to walk away from its pre-existing handshake agreements with most or all members of its 2025 international signing class, so several other interesting prospects could soon be entering the market. Even the possibility that these unofficial agreements might not be honored has cost the Dodgers at least three prospects already, so the two teams who don’t sign Sasaki might both miss out on the pitcher and have to deal with a reduced group of int’l prospects if some of the players leave in advance.
mlbnyyfan
Why would any team help Dodgers get more money to sign a free agent??
Joemo
Because most teams are ran like a business, where they care about making the most money not preventing the Dodgers from winning a world series.
Jbigz12
I’d give up a lot of bonus money for Jackson Ferris or River Ryan.
camdenyards46
Doubt they deal either for intl bonus pool money
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I doubt Ferris will be available but Ryan, Miller, Sheehan, Wrobleski and Outman, maybe
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Maybe miller
Dodger Dog
I think the giants set the market today on the level of prospect that will trade hands in this sort of transaction.
brocnessmonster
Right, typically top prospects value is in the millions. I think Eno said on a pod the other day a top draft pick carries a perceived value of ~$10MM.
Nobody is getting a top-100 pitching prospect for $500k of international pool money.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Not unless it makes a difference on whether the Dodgers or Padres get Roki. I can’t include Toronto with a straight face.
Jbigz12
Ferris won’t be traded for intl money unless there’s something else coming back with that.
outinleftfield
Its not a perceived value, its an actual value.
The #1 pick in the draft had a $10,570,600 value in 2024.
#2 $9,785,000 #3 $9,070,800
Down to $2,971,300 at #30
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Mlbnyyfan
The idea is to get the Dodgers to trade a prospect worth acquiring in return for the increase in international spending – that would be a win-win for a team already out of Sasaki sweepstakes
Diggydugler
Like the Jays! get it done Atkins.
darinc
If the Dodgers are willing to give up prospects that are closer to being major league players I would trade as much money as possible. These 16 year old kids may never pan out and you could get a prospect that’s in AA right now. Sign me up.
The Dodgers don’t need any money anyways. They are just trying to make it look good. They will give him a huge extension in 2-3 years.
Niekro floater
Not helping Dodgers, those trading partners are getting value back, trying to help themselves by acquiring some young controllable Dodger talent. Can be shrewd cause u know LA really wants that extra bonus pool money. Could be Pages or Outman on way out of town. They have surplus of young pitching n Dodgers have 6 players in new top 100 list. They got bullets.
ThatsIT?
Why are casuals like you talking about the dodgers giving up top 100 guys for bonus money lol. It’s starling how little fans know about the value of these players. It’s no wonder they’re trade proposals are brutal and get upset at the actual return of big league talent.
towinagain
Only to watch the Dodgers land Sasaki.
Come on Padres?!
KnicksFanCavsFan
@mlb
If they’re out of the Sasaki derby, then they might wish to get some other assets that could help them instead ?
El Niño
So the doyers can sign the international players committed to the padres when Sasaki signs with them.
Niekro floater
Could swoop in n vulture Pads ’25 international class plus I believe if LA loses out on Roki they have a big splash plan B for another solid starter, a trade, re-sign Flaherty or someother FA. If Toronto gets him not only do Pads lose Roki, in short order probably dealing Cease, Suarez, n filling lf need internally. Pads need this to have their domino’s start falling in the right direction n spend a lil money to help compete.
Flanster
What do we ALL suppose that means?
VermonsterSD
Nothing actually because the padres and blue jays are probably doing the same.
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Verm
Concur
Butter Biscuits
Padres have nothing good to trade
Gwynning
What happened to the guaranteed, backroom, under-the-table handshake deal you promised on the 15th, Butters? Getting scared yet?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I sure would not guarantee that. But if this was college sports, there would be a car dealer alumni booster at the meeting with a bag o’ money and keys to a pretty sports car. Do I think the Dodgers or Padres would do that. Probably not. Padres have to stray in the straight and narrow because one family member might eat out an opposing faction. Dodgers also have a lot at stake if it gets out. But if Kershaw can pitch Hankook tires, Roki can be the new spokesperson for the car dealer or even manufacturer.
DonOsbourne
I’m sure you meant one thing and said another.
drew ford
We all know he’s going to the Dodgers
YankeesBleacherCreature
Still not a given. If that were the case, the Dodgers would not be scrambling to trade for more bonus bucks.
Wire to wire 2024
Agree that its not a given but couldn’t they want more money just to sign others before/after sasaki?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Fair point. But we’ll only know if Roki signs with the Dodgers and the amount he receives. Then one needs to evaluate whether the prospects given up for more money are better or worse than any new int’l signees. Lots of moving parts here.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Sasaki said he’s signing with the Blue Jays but wants more money Bob Nightingale said so
coloredpaper
Is Nightingale the same one who had reported that Ohtani was on a plane headed to Toronto? Bc if he was… lol
Cincyfan85
I saw a report that he’s headed to Toronto from San Diego on a Greyhound bus. I think we’ll find out who he’s signing with in about 12 days.
paddyo furnichuh
@color….Indeed he was, hence the facetious comment from sweetbabyray.
gravel
No. That was Jon Morosi.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
He’s going to the Jays
This one belongs to the Reds
To the shock of NO ONE.
outinleftfield
Unless the Dodgers front office is totally incompetent, and by all appearances they are the opposite, then they have been having exploratory talks with other teams about the possibility of acquiring additional Int’l FA pool money since well before Sasaki was posted. I have to assume that they started exploring it in earnest at the Winter Meetings in Dallas.
Rexhudler86
Everyone thought i was wrong. This article is obvious. Of course he’s going to get whatever team he chooses max pool money. That’s why they padres have floated 6 players on the block. Dodgers can hold it closer to vest because they have Miller or Ryan they could trade. I don’t know about the blue jays farm system to comment but I’m sure something could be lined up
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Rex While I think Wolfe/Roki probably knows which team will be selected, they’re not revealing their cards yet. I admire their tactics. In the grand scheme of Roki’s promising career trajectory, $2M is not going to be a difference-maker.
momTurphy
Jon Heyman says Roku Sasaki will sign with his childhood favorite team, the Giants…
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Turphy
Roku Sasaki will strike out Arson Judge every time
Tig
not a chance
johncoltrane
This is why roki hasnt signed yet. Waiting for la deferrals to get more $. And folks said “its not about $” lol everything’s about money. Baseballs abt money. Life is abt $$$$$
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Even if Roki does not care about the money, Wolfe does
momTurphy
The Dodgers cannot defer any money to Roki. They can offer him 8M or so at the very most.
bruinlife33
MLB teams: Don’t give in to these fuc$&ers
Never Remember
Good you aren’t allowed anywhere near a baseball team. To think a team like the As should miss out on a good prospect from the dodgers by giving up $500000 they aren’t going to spend is so stupid it hurts.
kylegocougs
The article pretty clearly shows teams aren’t giving up good stuff for bonus pool money, it’s mostly fringe 40-man types or relievers who can’t throw strikes
momTurphy
Kempner was taken in the 3rd round off of like 10 innings that season (injuries). Miami will turn him around if he stays healthy because he has great stuff.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
The Tigers should buy some Hope contract.
DonOsbourne
Come on Mo! The Dodgers have plenty of young arms to target. This is a rare situation where we have leverage on the Dodgers. Go get some young controllable pitching.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Oki Doki
Shishka
Dodgers are a smart organization and I give them full credit for everything they’ve done and continue to do, but if they sign Sasaki it’ll just be depressing. Please keep that in mind, Roki!
As a Jays fan, I’m really hoping Sasaki comes to Toronto, but my money’s actually on San Diego. And I don’t think the money will have any kind of impact on his decision.
coloredpaper
While I agree that signing with the Dodgers gets him closest to winning a bunch of championships… between the Padres and Blue Jays, the Padres would def be the better choice for Sasaki as they are closest to being contenders compared to the Blue Jays. Also, their proximity to Japan compared to Toronto.
I also feel obliged to mention that tax-wise, neither of those 3 teams have a tax advantage anyway, so it would seem like team strength, location, business (sponsorship/endorsements/investment opportunities) and community would probably have an effect on Sasaki’s choice.
Murray Rothbard
Why would anyone sign with Toronto if money was similar? Blue Jays are an average team with very optimistic expectations. They’re not the same caliber as perennial contenders
lambird17
If teams are only allowed to trade international bonus pool funds in increments of $250,000, the Dodgers max would be $8,146,200 while the Pads and Jays max would be $10,011,600 as $3mil and $3.75mil are the max numbers that stay under 60% increase while also being cleanly divisible by $250k
YourDreamGM
Could be they already had Roki done but tried trading for $ to get their previous commitments. When they failed to do so these players signed with other teams.
Who cares about signing bonus $? The real $ is the endorsement $ and the extension. What’s a million or two vs hundreds of millions.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Where, pray tell, does the article talk about the Dodgers actually doing what the headline states?
My reading comprehension is ? Where?
yeasties
Paragraph 10 on the LA Times article.
TAKERDBACKS
Nobody outside of the fake dodger fans give a crap
Murray Rothbard
Fans complain about a MLB needing a salary cap but LA has the lowest intl pool or offers Hye-Song less than the Angels and still gets top talent. The endorsement opportunities in big markets is starting to look like MLB contracts anyway.
DroppedThirdStrike
True story. Love your name
Murray Rothbard
Thanks. In respect to the godfather of anarchocapitalism
BranchLilDicky
Enough with this charade. Sign with the Dodgers dammit and let’s get on with it. They can entice him with plenty of land to build.
stubby66
Everyone is talking about the international money. That’s a joke. The real money is the endorsement deals that he will be getting. That is where it gets crazy out of hand. Teams have even had some of them at the sit down meetings.
Andrew Mowry
I own a teriyaki sauce biz. I want him on my brand.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I’m renaming my garage brewery to Sasaki Sake.
cplwhite
Somebody please explain this to me . MLB cries they are losing TV contracts, keep raising prices on tickets and everything they sell yet they keep shelling out millions. And on top of that want cities to build and pay for their stadiums. Cities don’t pay for companies to build factories. I love baseball but I’ve had enough of the greed. Pete Rose and The Black Sox banned for gambling yet mlb promotes it for a buck.
RunDMC
@cplwhite — “Cities don’t pay for companies to build factories”
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You’re kidding, right? Has Amazon built a warehouse anywhere near you, and seen the tax breaks they got to lure them there? For ex, in 2020 Amazon built a warehouse in North Andover, MA and received more than 27M public-funding. In 2023, Morrow County (OR) ok’d over 1B in tax breaks for Amazon — with 3 officials facing ethics sanctions b/c of the deal. They wouldn’t build an Amazon warehouse a few years ago in Queens b/c they wouldn’t approve massive tax breaks. Considering many sports stadiums that do receive public-funding usually about at the 40-50%. In ATL, they received 40% public-funding to build SunTrust/Truist in Cobb Co, to which the official that ushered that in was promptly fired b/c of a lack of transparency. I’m not an expert on this, but a lot of deals run in line with how corporate America operates, which isn’t a surprise considering many are run by corporate lawyers.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@RunDMC is right. Governments providing subsidies to private enterprise is one of the biggest reason why we had a global Industrial Revolution. That’s never going to stop anywhere in the world.
BennyG1919
Hes going to the Dodgers and everyone knows it
Niekro floater
Roki’s recent cpl month crash course on Americana has taught em Americans are crazy n he’s going back to Japan n be baseball God. Just a rumor…
YankeesBleacherCreature
“In this winter… this is very tough. I feel like it’s going to give me the best opportunity to win and to win for multiple years, and not only just to win in the regular season or just to win five games in a row or three games in a row, I want to be able to win championships. And I feel like I can compete down there. In this winter…I’m going to take my talents back to South Japan.”
Gwynning
– LaRoki Sabronski
Salzilla
Yanks, give em a few million for Pages or Outman and call the OF done.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Pages is a huge ask, but Outman is the new Trayce Thompson without the warriors or mavericks tickets
Fernando P
@Salzilla – Would rather deal with the Padres than the Dodgers.
1M international bonus pool money, RP Yoendrys Gomez and swingman JT Brubaker in return for RP Jeremiah Estrada & minor league RP Tyson Neighbors.
Andrew Mowry
The Mariners have the most of that international moolah. I hope they trade that money for a Dodger dog, because that’s closest the M’s will ever be to sniffing a World Series.
Go Mariners. Blah. Barf.
es7129
Yankees should send the Padres $3mil IBPF plus Stroman for Arraez.
pando8888
I was thinking the same but don’t think they can send that much
Gwynning
You can send that much, just don’t see it happening.
pando8888
Plus they would not need anymore pitching
Ezpkns34
If I were a GM, I’d offer deferred international bonus pool payments to LA
jaysfansince1977
Interesting that only 2 of the 3 teams are doing this. Does this mean they are worried the Jays have him and hope to out pay the Jays???
YankeesBleacherCreature
At this juncture, I think the Jays may be “interested” in trading for more bonus bucks. (Sorry, couldn’t help myself. I’m rooting for you guys out of the three!)
HalosHeavenJJ
This is going to be so brutal for Padres fans.
(I’m of the widely held opinion this was decided before it really started).
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halos
Not to be mean, but it can’t be any more brutal for Padres fans than it is to be a fan of Arte Moreno’s team on a regular day
HalosHeavenJJ
Oh no. It sucks on team Arte right now.
I just mean this particular letdown will be brutal. As a guy who just watched Ohtani leave then fulfill his every dream there, I’m sympathetic.
Gwynning
It ain’t over til it’s over, and it ain’t over!
bluepelotas
Just a show, that’s all..
Citizen1
Well well well. Down to two. Top major league ready prospects only. Like asking another team to pay ohtani at his prime salary.
GangGreen23
Jake Gelof would look nice in Green & Gold playing alongside his brother Zack Gelof.
Hey Dodgers, A’s got your $250k for Jake Gelof …….
OnlineFeatures
Actually so pathetic if he goes to the Dodgers.
Mickey Solis
This is sick. Teams will help the Dodgers because at this point the Dodgers have shoved their wallet so far down everyone’s throat that baseball is ruined and they’ll win the next four or five World Series and their fans will defend their “honor” and say everyone else their team could be doing it too but they should be out helping their community instead of defending their scumbag team.
Kash Considerations
Calm down, Karen. Everybody is tied for first place right now.
Echopark
Just make a decision. You’re holding up three teams. If you don’t know now, you ain’t gonna.
Zippy the Pinhead
I heard that the Mariners have offered Haniger and the highest remaining amount of international pool money for Vlad, Muncy, or Suarez and Cronenworth. Whoever says yes first gets the deal. However, it might just be a rumor.