The Dodgers made a big addition to their bullpen this weekend, agreeing to a deal with the winter’s top free agent reliever, left-hander Tanner Scott. Prior to that agreement, the Dodgers had some discussions with right-hander Kirby Yates, reports Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times.
The interest is perfectly understandable, as Yates is coming off an excellent season. He tossed 61 2/3 innings for the Rangers last year, allowing only 1.17 earned runs per nine. His 11.8% walk rate was fairly high but also not abnormal for him. He worked around those free passes by striking out 35.9% of batters he faced and also getting grounders on 45.5% of balls in play. He took over the closer’s role in Texas, earning 33 saves on the year.
Despite that excellent season, the righty’s market will be limited. He is turning 38 years old in March, which will naturally put a cap on how long teams are willing to invest in him. He’s also had plenty of injury issues over the years. He hardly pitched at all from 2020 to 2022, with Tommy John surgery being the main reason. He returned to the mound in 2023 and had decent but not outstanding results, with a 3.28 ERA that year. His 31.5% strikeout rate was quite strong but a few ticks below his 2024 level, while the walks were even higher, finishing at 14.6%.
Atlanta could have kept him around for 2024 via a $5.75MM club option but opted for a $1.25MM buyout instead. That led to Yates getting a one-year, $4.5MM deal from the Rangers, which worked out great. His excellent season will definitely get him a bump from that level, but some hesitation from clubs is still justifiable.
The Dodgers have generally been willing to invest in talented pitchers, despite injury concerns. That hasn’t always worked out, as they have sometimes been heavily snakebit over the years, though they just hoisted the World Series trophy last year.
The club presumably still has some interest in Yates but the Scott deal might also lower their urgency. It’s not as though the bullpen was a glaring weakness to begin with. The club’s relief corps had a combined ERA of 3.53 last year, a mark bested by only three other teams in the majors. They lost Blake Treinen and Joe Kelly to free agency at season’s end but re-signed Treinen last month and now have Scott in the fold as well.
RosterResource currently projects the club to run a six-man rotation next year, which is certainly a possibility. In 2024, they avoided using Yoshinobu Yamamoto on a five-day schedule in order to help him make the transition from Japan, where starters normally throw once a week. In 2025, they will be folding in Roki Sasaki, who is younger than Yamamoto and has had more injuries in his career. They will also be getting guys like Shohei Ohtani, Tony Gonsolin and Dustin May back from lengthy surgery absences. Blake Snell and Tyler Glasnow haven’t been workhorses in their career either. Clayton Kershaw will presumably re-sign with the club and be back in the mix, though he’s had his own share of injury concerns lately. In short, having six starters and lowering everyone’s workload would be sensible.
Running a six-man rotation would normally limit a club to a seven-man bullpen, since clubs aren’t allowed to roster more than 13 pitchers. Ohtani’s status as a two-way player means he can effectively be counted as a position player, allowing the Dodgers to have both a six-man rotation and eight-man bullpen at times, though not at the start of the season. Ohtani missed the 2024 season due to UCL surgery and then also required arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn labrum in his non-throwing shoulder just a few months ago. Last month, manager Dave Roberts said it’s unlikely Ohtani will be in the club’s rotation to start the year, so they may be capped at 13 pitchers and a seven-man bullpen until Ohtani can get back on the mound.
Scott and Treinen will be in two spots, with the Dodgers also having Michael Kopech, Evan Phillips, Alex Vesia, Anthony Banda and Ryan Brasier. That makes for seven arms that seem fairly locked in. Vesia is the only one that can be optioned and he just posted a 1.76 ERA last year. It’s still possible that the club signs Yates anyway then just waits to see if everyone stays healthy through the spring. If that comes to pass, they could then cut someone at the end of camp. But it’s also possible they will just pass on Yates and see how the season plays out with this group.
As mentioned, the club had a strong bullpen last year and has now added Scott to it. RosterResource also projects next year’s payroll at $369MM and their competitive balance tax number at $371MM, with both of those numbers close to $40MM beyond last year’s figures. Given how aggressive they’ve been, no one would be surprised if they kept adding, but they also might feel like they’ve done enough at this point.
If Yates needs to look elsewhere for his next contract, he should have plenty of options. He’s been connected to the Cubs, Tigers, Rangers and Diamondbacks this offseason and presumably has interest from other clubs as well. Teams like the Blue Jays, Orioles, Red Sox and Atlanta had some interest in Scott and could be looking elsewhere for relief help after he landed with the Dodgers. The relief market has been heating up more broadly of late, with Scott, A.J. Minter, Jose Leclerc, Jeff Hoffman and Andrew Kittredge agreeing to deals in recent weeks.
At the start of the offseason, MLBTR predicted Yates for a strong one-year deal with a $14MM guarantee. That was a reflection of his aforementioned excellent season but also his yellow flags. The offseason has been kind to some relievers, with Scott, Minter and Clay Holmes surpassing projections, though the Mets plan to stretch out Holmes as a starter. Hoffman came in below his prediction but that seems to have been a result of some concerns about his shoulder in his physical. Treinen got a two-year deal despite the fact that he’ll turn 37 this year and has a lengthy injury history. All those factors should lead to a healthy deal for Yates, regardless of which team he ultimately lands with.
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Of course they did, he’s an ex-Padre.
How many ex-Padres has that team signed to major or minor league deals in the last few seasons?
Alot.
New name for this site.
MLABTR.
That’s because those players want to experience winning for the first time.
You’ll be happy to hear. The Dodgers are trying to trade for Luis Arraez.
lol
The Dodgers achieved their status as the game’s model franchise by avoiding the type of deals AJ Preller jumps at.
If AJ really was a ‘rockstar’ his band would be called The Massive Overpays.
“Massive Overpays”?
So if a team like the Rays, Pirates,A’s, Brewers, Marlins etc. want to spend big, that’s a travesty?
No, it’s not. It’s just a threat to the larger market teams that MLB addressed by forcing the Padres to stop spending.
The Padres were setting a dangerous precedent for smaller/mid market teams that…
You can spend with the big boys.
Nope. He doesn’t fit LA’s profile.
A lot.
So, you’re saying the Dodgers sign Kirby Yates next.
Yes.
Seeing that the Dodgers are interested in or look to sign virtually any top free agent, I hereby declare that for the next MLBTR Free Agent Prediction Contest, I will be naming the Dodgers as the landing spot for every player.
You’ll probably win.
Next year there are 2 options: LAD, Other.
“Other” is always the favorite to win it all, because the best team rarely wins the postseason.
In context of the prediction contest it was a funny comment. As to championships, of course other wins the most.
Way to ruin the joke @gregn213. You must be fun at parties
Because they’re allowed a roster of 100, unlike other teams who can only play 26. So unfair!
So, in other words, Yates will sign with the Dodgers tomorrow.
Woah woah woah. Yates and the Dodgers do not already have a handshake agreement with Yates. He’s going to go through the free agency process. How dare you assume that.
I think I read somewhere that Yates is cool with $20/hr. And $3/hr will be deferred.
How good is Kirby‘s investment guy? 26m in career MLB earnings. First million dollar season was 2018. 1 inning of post season work. From Hawaii. Appears not to have children. Hobbies listed as surfing and golf.
The Red Sox should seriously consider signing Yates to a 1 year deal with an option. They signed both Jansen & Chris Martin back in 2023 to 2 year deals, both of whom were in their mid to late 30’s with excellent track records and both pitchers worked out for them. They can get creative with their offer, with a $8M+ base salary and significant incentives based on the number of holds and/or saves Yates delivers. He has a ‘new elbow’ so that takes away some of the injury risk and he’d be great insurance if Liam Hendriks is unable to return to form after missing all of 2024 due to TJS. I know they are looking at Estevan too, but I trust Yates more than Estevan if they need to use him as a closer. Hopefully, Hendriks will be okay and Boston could alternate Yates and Chapman in the 8th inning to get the ball to him.
He’s probably going to get more than $8 mil. Probably $10. Potentially still with an option.
I don’t know, don’t count out the Jays. They finally woke up lol
I have Jays in the contest so let’s go!
Sure let’s have a reunion with the guy we signed and paid to have surgery and never see the mound for us.
I am still waiting for the Dodgers to trade for Arenado, sign Bregman and Flaherty. Why not have an all-star line-up, starting pitching, bullpen and bench?
I could see them sitting around a conference room table talking it over, and Friedman says, “Aw heck, let’s go ahead and sign him, too.” And the room erupts into laughter with high fives all around.
They’ll still sign him. $50 million with $48 million of it deferred
Nah, you guys can have him.
Oh man I know everyone says tears are salty. Let me tell you something they’re not. They’re sweet keep em coming boys keep em coming. Go Dodgers
They’re not drinking enough water and/or pineapple juice. It’s an epidemic.
Graterol will also be in the pen as well.
Graterol just had shoulder surgery. Returning in the 2nd half….
Sign him too? Why the heck not! Yeeeeee-hawwwww!
Good lord how many closers do the dodgers need !
jaysmooth2121: They’re going to have two teams in the majors this season with one replacing the AAA White Sox.
Why not sign both??
That’s what a well-timed 8 billion tv deal will do. MLB loves the large markets being playoff locks, so why not make a mockery of lavish spending if still making plenty of cash. Better hope the 35yo and younger fan targets for Central divisions (except Cubs) don’t become so disinterested that the feeder teams can’t draw when older generations are no longer around to support.
The Dodgers don’t use “a closer.” They hire guys who can handle high leverage situations, and use them in the most critical situations, which isn’t always the 9th. Soon other teams will catch on.
Well this is what they’ve done when the situation called for it, but nobody has ever said outright that the Dodgers won’t use a closer if they have one. No matter what they call him, Scott is bound to get the ball in the ninth most days.
@blue. I’m not so sure. I think he’ll get a lot of situational appearances, mostly to get guys from the left side. I know Ohtani is glad he won’t have to face him!
All of them.
So they’ll sign him too. At this point, why not?
Big if true. Huge news thanks for the reporting
Orioles
The more the merrier….
Why wouldn’t they just sign Kirby Yates as well?
Because he isn’t better than what they have. Teams are limited to 13 pitchers.
He’s actually better than everyone in their bull pen
At AAA. They need some AAA depth. Also, Yates isn’t better than Banda?
Why do players want the easy way out and play in the shadow of other starts in LA, instead of being their own show on another team? What happened to wanting to be “competitive”? Isn’t this the big leagues?
Yeah, why do players want to join a team that constantly pushes all in trying to win?
Maybe they have other motivations than being the only great player on their team. Could stay at AAA for that.
Their ego’s are smaller than yours.
Do you mean competitive to be a player going to a team that is not historically competitive?
BFD.
At this point I think the Dodgers should just be given all the MLB teams’ money and take on all the contracts in the entire system- single-A affiliates to the 30 major league clubs, etc. and then just present the next 20 years worth of WS trophies to themselves and then none of these guys have to actually play baseball to earn their paychecks. League disbanded. Also the Korean and Japanese leagues. Everything.
Baseball is over everybody.
I just feel like out of every other club, it feels like the Dodgers have seemingly endless roster space to add guys- I realize that’s not actually the case, but it legitimately feels like for every other club’s 26 to 40 man roster, the Dodgers get to have 35 to 50 players- again, I know that’s not the case, but it certainly feels that way.
I know it isn’t true, but I still believe it.
Put that on a bumper sticker. It will sell.
You need to convince me without using facts that the Dodgers aren’t carrying 100 players and I refuse to look up their official current 40-man and minor league rosters and MLB transaction wires. /s
Manfred.
My work here is done.
As much as I want to blame Manfraud, the beginning of this crap was Ueberoth. He criticized owners who spent money to win a title, and they listened to him. You have cheap teams like the White Sox, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, and Pirates that don’t spend at al and miss the playoffsl, and teams like Tampa who get in due to some smart trades, but they don’t spend or boost the team in July, and never make it past the first round. Owners should be required to spend a certain amount, and if they don’t, draft picks, revenue sharing, international signing money, and a certain percentage of profit should be taken away. If you spend a certain amount above the salary floor, you should get certain incentives. Maybe add a big bonus pool to the World Series winner that the owner gets that comes from TV/streaming money. Just something to get other teams to attempt to sign players.
What Ueberoth started, Manfraud is finishing, and once he is done, it’s going to be MLBanana Ball where only the Dodgers, Padres, Mets, Boston, Texas, San Francisco, and Toronto spend, and the other teams are just going to be battling for 3-4 playoff spots (maybe 9 if Manfraud gets his way) in each league, and they won’t have any realistic shot in the playoffs. Kind of like the minorities that the NFL puts in interviews just to meet a quota instead of really looking at, giving multiple interviews, and maybe really hiring. The gap between the rich and poor is just getting worse, and MLB needs to make strict penalties for not spending enough and rewards for spending above the floor.
Satire is easy. Getting it, hard.
Kirby Yates? Yawn, probably wouldn’t even of had to defer some money
So “scumbags” want to win, and “sellouts” are joining a team with 3 titles since 1988.
Jealousy is an ugly thing.
I am coming around to the opinion that our esteemed Mr. Solis is actually a pro-Dodgers troll who posts these rants to provide us fellow fans with schadenfreudey goodness.
I’ve thought that too.
Mickey,
The Dodgers had to win more postseason series than any other team before them. You can discount that title if you choose, but MLB records always will list them as World Series champions for 2020.
To be fair, I’d take the ring and the money too if I was the player. Those basically are the incentives to play pro sports.
just get yates too..
Surprised they haven’t signed him yet.
once again, pretty much any team has the money to sign him. but if it’s the dodgers it’s evil.
I probably won’t live long enough to see the result, but future generations will see the Dodgers as the poorest team in baseball with all those deferred payments. Somewhere I’ll be laughing.
Some of already are, not for the reasons you think.
If the Dodger ever go broke, there’s always selling some team shares to raise money among a long line of buyers.
That isn’t going to happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Ohtani ends up owning a piece of the team.
Andrew Friedman: “Kirby who? $17 million a year? Sure, throw him on the pile!”
The Dodgers know how to create of discover the best pitchers who can throw the Roger Beshens Football Slider. They know there was always a traditional slider but in May 2018 Roger Beshens began a NEW TREND in Major League Baseball by bringing in his Football Slider.
NO ONE was teaching how Roger Beshens teaches his Football Slider.
If any MLB TEAM KNEW the Roger Beshens on center grip, throw like a football, stiff wrist since the beginning of baseball they would have acted.
It doesn’t matter if someone threw it before because they never spoke up to show others how they could use it for their own benefit.
Roger Beshens is the reason hundreds of pitchers throw it in Major League Baseball now.
Hot dog! There it is! Hundreds of ~390 MLB pitchers! The percentage could even be Joey Gallo’s career K%!
Impressive!
I’m calling it now, Chiefs vs Dodgers in the Super Bowl
You seem upset about something. What is your favorite team? I need context.
Mickey will not reveal his team, I’ve tried many times to get that question answered.
I’m surprised they didn’t sign both. Cheapskates…
Why not just sign both while you are looking for another Bullpen Arm? Spending money hasn’t stopped you for the last several years! Maybe Kirby wasn’t keen on deferrals! Is Steve Cohen a silent partner of the Dodgers?
If the orioles added Yates that BP would be insane. Bautista, Yates, kittredge, cano, seranthony, akin, Suarez, Perez. Wow. Dunno if that makes up for the painfully average rotation but a top 2-3 pen is a nice place to start.