The Cubs and Kyle Tucker have avoided arbitration, reports Jesse Rogers of ESPN. The outfielder will make $16.5MM next year and won’t need to go to a hearing. Tucker is represented by Excel Sports Management.
Last week was the arbitration filing deadline, meaning that any teams and players who did not come to agreements had to exchange filing figures. The Cubs and Tucker did not agree, with the club filing at $15MM and Tucker at $17.5MM. The $2.5MM gap between their numbers was the largest of the 17 filings. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz had projected Tucker for a $15.8MM salary this year. If a hearing came to pass, the arbiter would have had to select either Tucker’s number or the club’s, with no ability to pick a midpoint.
That made the likelihood of a hearing very high. Teams and players are allowed to continue negotiating and free to reach deals after the filing deadline, though most teams take a “file-and-trial” approach these days. That means they have a policy against doing one-year deals after the deadline, thus giving them leverage in salary talks. When a file-and-trial team does a deal after the deadline, it usually involves an extra year, perhaps as an option. That prevents it from being used as a precedent in future arbitration calculations, so the overall trend of file-and-trial policies is to slow the inflation of salaries.
The Cubs have been a file-and-trial team, as most are these days, but have made an exception here. None of the reporting on Tucker’s deal suggests that there’s any kind of option. He is an impending free agent and excellent player, so he wasn’t going to give away a free agent year on a club option. The two sides could have agreed to some kind of mutual option that would never be picked up, but don’t appear to have done so.
It’s unclear why the Cubs broke from their usual policy here, paying Tucker beyond the midpoint of the filing numbers and his MLBTR projection. Speculatively speaking, it could be because he was just acquired from the Astros and the Cubs didn’t want to tarnish the beginning of their relationship with their new star player. An arbitration hearing can sometimes lead to friction between player and team, with Corbin Burnes with the Brewers and Ryan Helsley with the Cardinals some recent examples. Burnes spoke of his negative arbitration experience in February of 2023, while Helsley recounted his to Foul Territory in March of last year.
Tucker has previously gone to an arbitration hearing. He first qualified for arbitration going into 2023, with he and the Astros unable to reach an agreement for his salary that year. He filed at $7.5MM and the Astros at $5MM, with the club ultimately emerging victorious. The two sides avoided arbitration for 2024 by agreeing to a $12MM salary.
It’s also perhaps possible that the Cubs would like to keep Tucker for the long term and didn’t want to sour the relationship with a bad first impression. President of baseball operations Jed Hoyer recently appeared on the Cubs Rekap Podcast with David Kaplan and Gordon Wittenmyer (hat tip to Michael Cerami of Bleacher Nation) and discussed Tucker’s situation, downplaying his concern about the relationship with Tucker. He also said that there are no conversations about an extension. Though the Cubs would love to have Tucker long term, Hoyer suggested they would probably approach him about contract talks later, suggesting that playing in front of the home crowd at Wrigley would help their chances.
While it may be true that Tucker will enjoy the experience of being a Cub this year, there are still reasons to expect an extension isn’t likely. He’s been one of the best players in baseball recently. In the eyes of FanGraphs, he essentially averaged five wins above replacement per year from 2020 to 2023. He produced 1.8 fWAR in the shortened 2020 season, then finished the next three seasons with either 4.9 or 5.0 fWAR. In 2024, he took things to a new level with 4.2 fWAR in just 78 games, missing significant time due to a shin fracture.
He has hit .279/.358/.525 over those five seasons for a wRC+ of 143. He has stolen 88 bases and received strong grades for his outfield defense. His 20.9 fWAR over those years puts him in the top 15 among all position players in the league. He likely would have been in the top ten if not for fouling a ball off his shin and fracturing it last year.
Given that production and the fact that Tucker is set to be a free agent going into his age-29 season, he is well positioned for a significant payday. To lock up an MVP-caliber player a year before free agency isn’t cheap, as shown on MLBTR’s Contract Tracker. Mookie Betts got $365MM from the Dodgers while Francisco Lindor got $341MM from the Mets. The largest deal in Cubs’ history is their $184MM pact with Jason Heyward, so they would likely have to double that to keep Tucker from becoming a free agent next winter.
BobinTexas
Quite a bargain for one year, after which he will want $400+ million. Enjoy this season, Cubbies!
cwsOverhaul
You’d think the Cubs want to make that tough to pass up guarantee over 10yrs offer now to get some closure. They are one of the few who can afford to roster a good team around the crazy money…..besides LAD/NYY/NYM/Boston/Philly.
178iq
He’s a great pick up. Cub’s fans should be thrilled. He’s better than belly. NYY fans are about to see what bargain basement shopping gets…
Big whiffa
You don’t know cubs fans 178iq. They were still slightly disappointed after their last WS championship lol
Lalo says show me
Tucker just saw what Soto got.
Unless cubs are offering 500 right now he’s not taking anything from them.
Yanks and Phillies will be in on Tucker next year.
You never know with the dodgers and Mets, so it makes sense to test the market, especially when he’s basically the only hitter besides Vlad out there next year
Joemo
Juan Soto is two years younger than Tucker and he had better seasons overall. Tucker will probably get closer to a Mookie Betts deal than a Juan Soto deal.
cwsOverhaul
One difference is Soto’s durability. Should Tucker miss a decent chunk of games, that would be 2yrs in a row…….and no one will be throwing out close to 400mil offers with that doubt. All about risk tolerance.
rememberthecoop
But Tucker is a complete player. He is much better defensively than Soto and he runs the bases and is a threat to steal. Given what Soto got, if he has a good season Ticker will get 450M+
SeanStL
He fouled a ball off his foot and came back better than ever. No indication he is fragile.
Anthony maresca
Tucker being that he will be 29 as a free agent I predict 9/10 yrs at $38-40 million avv tops.
Anthony maresca
Not happening given count Mets, Dodgers out as they don’t have a spot for him. Dodgers not adding another $400+ deal on an already brutal payroll and Tucker wont take deferrals.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Cubs have made the right moves to compete for the division crown and only sacrificed Cam Smith from a deep and talented farm. They just need to add a backend reliever or two. I do think Jackson Ferris and Zyhir Hope was too high a price for Busch at 1B, but no point in dwelling on past.
Oldguy58
That’s the problem, Cubs mentality is to compete for the division and nothing more. Oh one year of making the playoffs and we’re supposed to be indebted to them? The World Series was a long time ago guys. As an example look at the Chicago Bears, the 85 Bears won the Super Bowl and the organization has been garbage since then. The Cubs offered Tucker $15 million which is the same as the worst team in baseball history pays Benintendi. Ownership and management see Tucker as someone who can buy them some good will with the fans until the stable of hall of famers are all promoted to lead the team to undefeated season after undefeated season. Owner Tom Ricketts lost direction after winning the WS and Jed Hoyer is a stooge yes man trying to keep his job who has made a living walking in Theo Epsteins shadow. They make it difficult to be a Cub fan
178iq
Cubs make a lot of money playing that game. Yankees to. They just got lucky a few times with the playoffs.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Me thinks the lady doth protesteth too much
bronyaur
History has shown that getting to the playoffs is a lottery ticket. Not a huge advantage in short series.
rondon
I think it might be too soon to tell on the Busch trade. I know they gave up a lot, but Busch showed signs of being the real deal last season. He may take the next step this year. PCA as well. Btw.. I still think they need to more than Tucker if they wanna make a serious run.
Dumpster Divin Theo
He gone!
rememberthecoop
The acquisition of Tucker makes no sense unless you’re truly making a concerted effort to go for it this year. But they are clearly NOT going all out. Their big pickup for the rotation is Matthew Boyd, and they have no closer for the bullpen and no third baseman. Hoyer putting lipstick on the pig. Another 83 win season.
dray16
It makes a ton of sense for such a cheap franchise. He’s cheaper than Bellinger and he is nothing more than a flip at the trade deadline.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Trading for Tucker is a long play hoping to resign him. They’re not trading him unless they really bottom out in the summer. The Cubs should at least be WC contenders as it stands now.
unpaidobserver
Yes but how great of an 83 win season will it be?
Led Hoyer
Hoyer loves his short term veterans. Another year of 2 steps forward and one step back. I think the cubs are better than last year but lost some very promising controllable talent in the process. It’s clear Hoyer has no long term plan.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Very Paula Abdul is he
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
At the time I liked how the cubs swung big for a star
But there is no such thing as going in between which is exactly what hoyer did this year
In between gets you an 81 win season where you get the worst draft order while missing the playoffs at the same time
Tucker in a cubs uniform will become as forgettable as Reggie Jackson in an orioles uniform…
Seamaholic
They have the best 3B prospect in the minor leagues who just crushed the high minors last year. And they aren’t done with loads of big relief arms still on the board. Easy easy favorite in that division right now.
Dumpster Divin Theo
83 win tshirt
rondon
Most losses in MLB history tombstone
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Coop
I respect your view but I disagree. The Dodgers have a dynastic team even without Roki. A big city team like Chicago should play to make the playoffs every year and occasionally spend extra big to have a better chance to win WS. The Cubs still have Shaw, Triantos, Cassie, Alcantara, Horton, so moving Cam Smith to get a year of Kyle Tucker is ok with me.
Ann Porkins
It’s surprising to see a team eschew the file-and-trial approach without making a multi-year deal these days, but it makes sense. Why let a few hundred thousand bucks get in the way of a player they probably hope to extend or retain in free agency. This way, they can avoid uncomfortable nature of a trial and let Tucker’s year in Chicago start on a better note. Tucker isn’t going to take a hometown discount just because they met him more than halfway in arbitration, but players are people and there’s a non-zero amount of value in treating them well.
YankeesBleacherCreature
That’s what I saw it with Belli. The Cubs were hoping for a strong performance and then try to extend him. It worked out for Matt Chapman and the Giants. Maybe Tucker might take slightly less in free agency to return.
chinmusic
The most the Cubs have ever gone is 8 years at 184 mil for Jason Heyward. To go over 400 is just not something they will do.
imissjoebuzas
I don’t know about taking less, but he will be a “young” free agent and he is NOT represented by Scott Boras, so maybe it is possible to keep Tucker longer term.
So who knows? Maybe the Cubs get Pete Alonso for one definite year with options and take a stab at going for it. Counsell could go righty before lefty before righty in an Busch-Tucker-Alonso middle of the lineup.
Dangerous middle for a winds-blowing-out kind of day at Wrigley.
imissjoebuzas
I apologize for my dyslexia. I meant to write lefty-righty-lefty with Busch-Alonso-Tucker.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Pete is not as valuable as Tanner, Estevez or Minter. Cubs have Seiya to DH and Busch at 1B. Busch cannot play 3B. Neither Happ nor Ticker can play CF so PCA or Alcantara patrol CF. The only reason to sign Pete is to turn around and trade Seiya for a frontline starter or elite closer. Easier to get that closer as a free agent.
CaseyAbell
The likelihood of an arb hearing was very high. But somehow they settled, anyway. Got it.
SupremeZeus
Outrage brigade quite sad upon hearing this outcome. The process worked. Props to Hoyer & Ricketts.
unpaidobserver
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The way the process is supposed to work is the front office is supposed to settle at the midpoint before the filing deadline rather than looking weak by settling afterwards.
Their final offer to him was their arbitration filing, then they surpassed it. So, they didnt prove their point, they showed they dont respect the player, and they didnt even save any money to make any of that worth it.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’s standard operating procedure to lowball and for the player to go high. I don’t think anyone’s feelings were hurt with the final number. They DID trade and give up a lot of talent for him. Neither parties were trying to prove a point.
johncoltrane
What tm will kyle be on next yr? Mets, yanks, dodgers?
Wire to wire 2024
4th of for the dodgers with vlad at dh
highflyballintorightfield
If one believes that Betts will stick at SS, Conforto is on a one year deal so there will be an opening in the OF. Hmmmm….
Oldguy58
Bean Town
Acoss1331
Ricketts and Hoyer should really be ready to give Tucker the bag next offseason. I understand an extension might not happen, but if Tucker puts up his regular numbers in 2025, he’s going to be both very valuable and in demand. If there was ever a player to sign long term, it’s him. Also stop freaking dumpster diving and get a proven bullpen arm already…
JScottG
After the Cubs realize anything less than $400-$440m won’t keep him from Free Agency and they’re behind the Brewers & Reds in the standings, he’ll be the top trade deadline bat in July.
Edp007
Along with Vlad
Astros_fan_in_Aus
Vlad is nowhere near as valuable as a player.
rondon
Oh please with the “homer hate”. It’s ok to not like the Cubs. Just don’t be dumb about it.
WhiteSx2024
1 yr signing maybe a deadline flip.Scrubs don’t spend that type of cash
refugee
Cub convention runs tomorrow and Saturday and they want their new star their smiling with a signed contract in hand.
Troy Percival's iPad
If I was President, I would Exective Order bi-annual Arbitration hearings with your employer. Same rules as MLB, companies can file-and-trial same as any team, etc. It would make life more fun.
Jacksson13
The Negotiation’s were EXHAUSTING !!
Both sides are all TUCKERED out !!
SeanStL
Nope
SeanStL
The Cubs will never resign him. They only give big money to slightly above average players, never the superstars. 2016 was an amazing year and I wouldn’t trade it for anything, but it cursed us with management that thinks they can recreate that magic. Never going to happen. They will need to spend.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Guessing he will be asking for a minimum of 10 years/$400M w/ opt outs and as much as 12 years/$510M w/ opt outs.
I doubt the Cubs bite on that.
Yankees, though…
JayPhilsFan
I don’t see anyone giving him 10 years, I think he’ll get around 8/$350.
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Jay Phils
Yeah, I was thinking nine years at $40 mill a year could lockup Tucker tomorrow $360 million now could be $400 or more with a solid season in 2025
Guertez
It seems the idea that there’s “bad blood” between Cubs and Tucker after the reported difference in salary was a storyline the team wanted to correct quickly.
Tucker went high on his number as the MLBTR experts are usually pretty good at these arbitration numbers as they come off a formula.
The fact the Cubs went to 16.5 when 15.8 was the prediction shows they very much value what Tucker brings and wanted to stay in his good books.
Good chance Tucker loses that case based on the MLBTR prediction too, and that is never great for the relationship either.