The Yankees made their biggest move of the winter official, announcing Tuesday that they’ve signed left-hander Max Fried to an eight-year contract. The CAA client will reportedly be guaranteed a staggering $218MM on the deal, which does not include an deferrals or opt-out provisions but does include a full no-trade clause. Fried receives a $20MM signing bonus that’ll be paid out in two equal in January 2025 and ’26. He’ll make $12MM in salary for each of the first two seasons and be paid $29MM annually between 2027-32. Fried is set to be introduced at a press conference on Wednesday, which is scheduled for noon ET.
After losing the Juan Soto sweepstakes, the Yankees had plenty of money to outspend the rest of the field for his services and made use of those resources. Jon Morosi of the MLB Network reported earlier this evening that the Yanks were willing to offer Fried seven years, but they were evidently willing to going beyond that to get the market’s top unsigned southpaw on what is the largest contract for a lefty pitcher in MLB history, outbidding the club’s fellow finalists for Fried’s services in Boston and Dallas. It’s not hard to see what they like about the southpaw. Dating back to his first full season in 2019, Fried has a 3.07 ERA in 824 2/3 innings pitched. Only one pitcher in baseball has bested him in both categories during that time: Gerrit Cole, who he’ll now share the front of the Yankees rotation with.
That track record of dominance and durability that made Fried such an appealing target in the Bronx given the question marks that surround the rest of the club’s deep but flawed rotation mix. Carlos Rodón has been utterly dominant at times throughout his career, but he’s looked uneven in two seasons with the Yankees as he’s pitched to a 4.74 ERA and 4.77 FIP in 46 starts. Veteran righty Marcus Stroman has a long history of solid mid-rotation work, but he’s entering his age-34 season and did not make an appearance during the club’s run to the World Series this postseason. Nestor Cortes offers similar mid-rotation stability but struggled as recently as last year and is just one season away from free agency. Reigning AL Rookie of the Year winner Luis Gil and fellow youngster Clarke Schmidt both turned in promising seasons in 2024 but have checkered injury histories and minimal track records in the big leagues.
By contrast, Fried is the whole package. Since breaking out as a front-of-the-rotation arm with Atlanta, Fried’s 2.81 ERA is the third-best figure in all of baseball among qualified starters, bested only by Brandon Woodruff and Clayton Kershaw. While his 23.6% strikeout rate during that time doesn’t exactly jump off the page, his 6.3% walk rate is well above average and he’s also generated grounders at an impressive 54.2% clip that only Alex Cobb, Logan Webb, and Framber Valdez have bested. The southpaw’s grounder-heavy approach should serve as an excellent complement to Cole’s power-pitching reputation and form a fearsome combo at the top of the Yankees rotation for years to come.
That combination was sufficiently intriguing to the Yankees that they were willing to go well over the top to land their man. The #6 ranked free agent on MLBTR’s annual Top 50 MLB Free Agent list, Fried blew away the six-year, $156MM pact we predicted for him as well as other projections around the baseball world. Today’s pact is surely exciting news for Corbin Burnes and agent Scott Boras, to whom anyone hoping to land a top-of-the-rotation free agent this winter will now have to turn with both Fried and Blake Snell off the board. Chris Cotillo of MassLive reports the Red Sox already began preparing an offer for Burnes this afternoon. The Blue Jays, another suitor for Fried, have also expressed interest in Burnes. Burnes landed as MLBTR’s #2 free agent of the winter behind only Soto and was predicted to land a seven-year, $200MM contract at the outset of the offseason but it would hardly be a surprise to see his camp’s asking price increase in light of Fried’s deal.
Turning back to the Yankees, their projected payroll for 2025 now sits at $257MM (per RosterResource). That’s still $46MM below last year’s total. Meanwhile, their $265MM luxury tax payroll is above the first two CBT thresholds; last season it sat above the fourth and highest threshold for penalties. In other words, the Yankees should still have plenty to spend on impact free agents to try to fill the Soto-shaped hole in the roster. However, it’s worth keeping in mind that signing Fried will cost the Yankees their second- and fifth-highest picks in the 2025 draft in addition to $1MM in international bonus pool money.
They might be hesitant to sign a second QO-rejecting free agent and therefore forfeit their third- and sixth-highest draft picks as well. A look at MLBTR’s Contract Tracker reveals that while the Yankees signed three players who declined a QO during the 2022-23 offseason, two of them (Aaron Judge and Anthony Rizzo) were their own free agents and therefore did not cost the club anything beyond a hypothetical compensation pick. To find the last instance of the club signing multiple qualified free agents hailing from other teams in a single offseason, you would have to turn towards the 2013-14 offseason when the club landed Carlos Beltran, Jacoby Ellsbury, and Brian McCann.
With that being said, some have compared the club’s approach to the free agent market in a post-Soto world to their approach that offseason, when they failed to re-sign star second baseman Robinson Cano. That could suggest at least some level of willingness to continue pursuing qualified free agents, particularly given the fact that they’ll receive a compensatory pick for the loss of Soto to help mitigate the losses. Christian Walker, Alex Bregman, Anthony Santander, and Teoscar Hernandez are among the other qualified free agents to which the Yankees have been connected since Soto signed in Queens.
One other avenue for improving the club signing Fried opens up is dealing a different starting pitcher, and with the club’s rotation now featuring seven starters it’s difficult to imagine the club not moving at least one if not two of their starters below Fried and Cole on the pecking order. Rodon’s weak results in the Bronx and hefty contract would appear to make a deal coming together involving him unlikely, but any of the club’s other four starters could reasonably be moved. Stroman and Cortes have frequently found their names in the rumor mill this winter as potential trade targets, though health question marks surrounding Cortes and Stroman’s lackluster 2024 campaign could hamper the potential return for either hurler. Schmidt and Gil would both surely bring back a far more interesting return but it’s unclear if the Yankees have much of an appetite for moving on from either youngster. While the club could dangling one or more of its starters in exchange for big league talent, it’s also possible that trading from the rotation could supplement the farm system and make the Yankees more comfortable losing the draft picks associated with additional qualified free agents signings.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan first broke the agreement and the terms of the deal. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale and Joel Sherman of the New York Post came through with additional details. The Post’s Jon Heyman had the specific salary breakdown.
tom brunanskys black sock
Lmao @ Sox
thebudlightknight
Why have Soto when you can have almost 4 Max Frieds’?
Lemonade24
Whose are the other 3?
Salvi
1) Wavy Claim
2) Joe Quada
3) Rue V. Draught
thebudlightknight
1. Maxwell Fried
2. Maximillian Fried
3. Fried Max
Flanster
Fried Chicken
Frankie Bani
KFC
FrontRowBob
I don’t follow your logic….Since its really about annual salary…It is slightly less than 2 Max Frieds for the 2025 season and about 1.25 Max Fried’s by the end of the Fried Contract.
That also presumes a slightly harder salary cap, ala the NBA or NFL. I don’t think the Mets owner gives a hoot about the cap, taxes, or any lost picks…since he will just spend 3x more than 85% of the other MLB Teams
revolver
That ought to afford him a 2 bedroom flat in Brooklyn or thereabouts.
numberoneslayerfan
218 million could buy you a whole building in manhattan if you so choose
PiazzaParty
“218 million could buy you a whole building in manhattan if you so choose”
No that gets you a 2BR on Staten Island
numberoneslayerfan
man you’re a real buzzkill huh
Roguesaw2
He didn’t specify what type of building this whole building was. Surely that’s enough for a pigeon coup
roob
This is great. I hope Burnes signs with anyone other than the Red Sox. Then, the Bosox will be forced to give up some bats for Crochet.
deweybelongsinthehall
Funny how no one is tapping about Boras’ not doing his job this year…
TheGr8One
Probably cause he’s doing his job this year.
JoeBrady
I was hoping that Soto would hold out until next July and have the RS sign him to a 2-year contract.
Rking
Sasaki needs to hire Boras. He would tell him to not pick up a ball til he is past the age limit and he would get him 200 million easy.
FrontRowBob
I was one of the few who was not on Boras last year….His Clients actually got a higher single year salary on their deals last year even though the missed the long term deals. It was a risk the players took but generally they won. More last year and with ever rising salaries they were not hurt.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@roob I hope he signs with an NL team. Mets should be in in him considering they need an ace.
cwsOverhaul
The guarantee for Burnes likely now 250 minimum…….Flaherty is considered lower tier than Fried, but price of poker has also risen for him.
KennyF’nPowers
Yeah Burnes is the second happiest guy about this contract. He’ll get 8 years now and more money.
Pete'sView
Geez.
Anthony maresca
Burnes is topping $38-42 million avv over 8 yrs easily so any team better be prepared for at least $325 million to top Yamamoto current overall contract for a starter Burnes is the last remaining stud pitcher left.
PTkirk
Absolutely not haha dude has been on the decline for 3 years. If it was Burnes coming off his 2021 season? maybe. Right now? no shot
PiazzaParty
PTKirk
He’s on the decline? Can you support this claim?
I’ve seen his FB velo dip but he’s literally top 3 in IP and has a 3.08 ERA since 2022 and a 2.92 ERA last year.
What are you referring to when you say decline?
PTkirk
Strikeout rate has diminished every year and his peripherals all getting worse. I think he will be good the next few years but he’s never going to be as dominant as he was. I would be comfortable with giants doing like 8 years 28-30 but over that is getting really sus
numberoneslayerfan
now only if they can clone him 4 times…
Frankie Bani
Bad signing a la Stroman, too old for 8 years
worthington
Yankees are fools and suckers. Gonna fail again.
Samuel
worthington;
He can spend parts of multiple future years with fellow lefty Carlos Rodon on the IL.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Frankie
Such a bad comparison. Fried has been an ace in the last 5 years, won game 7 of the WS with a 6 inning shutout . Stroman was brought in to be a back of rotation starter, who was basically a back of rotation guy the last 5 years. 4.31 and 150 IP is basically what you expect from a BOR guy.
Uncle Pedro’s Dancing Kittens
As a Sox fan I am disappointed they did not sign him, but this contract could become an albatross very quickly depending on the health of his elbow. Never thought he would get 8 years.
Melchez17
What happened to the days of players taking team friendly deals in order to be a Yankee?
uvmfiji
Excellent
yanks2323
Boom! Love it!
DR2020
that’s great. I wonder who they try to dump or trade from the pitching staff, Stroman who’s useless, Nestor.
we still need to score. Some runs though not much of that is gonna happen with this lineup. We need to get a few big bats too.
deweybelongsinthehall
Eight years is nuts. No way around that. Seems like teams don’t care about the last few years. This way the AAV is less. Will be a lot of dead money at the end assuming the next CBA doesn’t give teams a break.
JackStrawb
They care, but what choice do they have?
Greensoxbaseball
Yup it’s jus to get the AAV down.
avenger65
They’re going to have a very lefty-leaning rotation. Nothing wrong with that.
KnicksFanCavsFan
They have 3 righties and two lefties. How is that lefty leaning?
Anthony maresca
With the cost of pitching Stroman’s $18.5 million is actually not so bad and if Yankees pay say $3 million of that deal he may bring back some decent lottery ticket players.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I love the signing, but 8 years?! Yikes.
danumd87
The 8 years is what makes it a very very bad signing. The move wreaks of desperation from a club with no real plan after losing out on Soto. They might have the best rotation in baseball now but that’s not going to help them – as currently constructed – with a bottom 10 bullpen and bottom 10 defense. And they don’t hit all that well either – though we can assume a big bat is inbound whether it’s Alonso, Bregman, Walker, etc. The Yankees appear to be trying very very hard to be a $250 million, 85 win baseball team.
BLIN7Y
Yeah, cause this will be there only move, UGH!
Yankee Clipper
Danumd87: I don’t think this was desperate, honestly. If there’s one thing Brian Cashman is, it’s very, very calculating. Almost too much so in certain instances.
If my assessment is correct, I’m willing to bet they had all of these “Plan B” FAs already discussed with parameters set on their value.
Fried is certainly worth $27MM/year, imho, but you’re right about the 8 years. Problem is: he’s a Boras client, and they’re notably overpaid or over-committed on their contracts.
Again, I could be wrong, but I think this puts the Yankees starting rotation right up there with any AL team.
larkraxm
Fried was part of plan A. It was Soto and Fried, not Soto or Fried. The plan was not to roll into a playoff series with an injured Cortes and Stroman not on the active roster again.
Lilscrappy
Some of the fans’ comments here are much more desperate than this signing lol
Sorinotsori
The bottom 10 defense is already addition by subtraction. Soto, gleyber, zombie rizzo, and zombie lemahieu going away. Judge moving from CF to RF. Jazz moving from 3b back to his natural 2B where he’s plus. This is an incredibly easy repair.
NashvilleJeff
@Yankee Clipper: Fried isn’t represented by Scott Boras. He’s represented by LA based CAA.
Yanksfan1030
Oh really? Then why did cashman say they didn’t go after snell because they were waiting on Soto?
Yanksfan1030
Zombie rizzo had. .425 obp when it counted in his playoff career as a Yankee. Too bad the rest of the team couldn’t do that or else they might be world champs right now.
Yankee Clipper
Oh shoot! You’re right Nashville. Thanks for straightening me out on that. I don’t know why I thought he was a Boras client (shoulder shrug emoji). Maybe he got 8 years because Boras wanted 12/$400 for Burns? See it ties back to Boras either way! lol.
NashvilleJeff
@Yankee Clipper: Only reason I knew that w/out checking is because the Braves don’t have any Boras clients. Max will be good for you guys Clipper. Don’t let the stuff about his playoff performance bother you. One of those bad starts was because he lost 15 pounds due to the flu. He pitched anyway because he’s a gamer. Went badly for him. Another rough start caused by him trying to pitch through a blister issue. Yanks fans are going to love him. Don’t let his excellent gb rate fool you into thinking that he’s just a pitch to contact lefty. He can run his 4 seamer up to 97. Features a solid 6 pitch mix w/a great hammer curve he throws at 2 different speeds. Very effective slider to lefties. Too many years is the cost of doing business these days. Hate to see him leave my Braves, but glad he got a deal he deserves. Congrats Yankee fans!
dugmet
8 years is all about lowering AAV. Large market teams hate being pinched by it more than payments by a player past his expiration date.
Anthony maresca
What??? And Soto’s 15 yrs to age 41 not? Double standard my friend. Fried will pitch to age 38 not exactly terrible. If they win a championship during his tenure it will be worth it.
larkraxm
I think they like Fried better than Snell anyway. Snell wasn’t coming to NY. FA players were waiting for Soto to sign just as much as teams were. It doesn’t really make sense to sign before Soto because the teams that missed out will react/overreact. Snell wanted to sign with LA and the Dodgers were never really in on Soto, so that deal made sense for them.
Baseballisthebest
Yankees were a top 10 defense.
fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&st…
A NYer
Which is probably why he was able to be signed so quickly on a pivot. Not sure I would want my team to be “in” on Corbin Burnes as Boras is going to use any leverage to force even higher aav/total salary than Max Fried obtained.
Baseballisthebest
Age 40 season. Soto won’t turn 41 until that season is over.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Dan
They were negotiating with Fried a week before Soto signed. This is not desperation move. They have two legit veteran aces now and can afford to use Schmidt or Cortez for other needs. I think it’s a brilliant move. They had $300 mil left from the offer they made to Yammy last year. They just repurposed it. I don’t know why this shocks anyone. Cashman stated they works look at upgrading the rotation.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Sori
Yanks haven’t done anything to address 3b so I won’t be shocked to see Jazz at 3b. He was good there last year and I think with a full off-season to get reps he’ll be pretty good there.
KnicksFanCavsFan
@nash
Fried won game 7, pitching 6 inning of shutout baseball. That’s balling.
Sorinotsori
I think part of that is the 3B options may be less appealing than the in-house candidates to play IF like durbin or peraza. Arenado and bregman seem like future Donaldson and hicks’. I can only assume with jazz’ talent and an entire offseason to get reps at 3B he’d be great there next season.
YourDreamGM
@clipper 8 years is great. 10 would have been even better. Keep aav down. Put off paying him. Like I said below. I like this contract and i hate mega contracts. I think this is a real bargain in the market. Will be looked at as fondly as the Scherzer contract when it’s done. Unless he gets hurt.
Yankee Clipper
Yes, from that perspective you guys are correct. Lowering the AAV is what the Yankees are about by extending the contract years. I just think the last few of that could be really rough. And, it surprised me a bit because I expected 6/$175 or so for a max for Fried. Nevertheless, I do like the signing.
But, hey, I’m not going to complain. I liked Fried, and now even moreso with NashvilleJeff’s summary of him.
YourDreamGM
Nashville Jeff Bridges would know. Big braves fan.
How much did Eovaldi get a year? How old is he? Is he better than Fried?
No opt out!
I am a fan of operating like Tampa Cleveland Pittsburgh. 200m can fund entire roster for 2 seasons. But as far as big contracts get, this is about as good as it gets for a pitcher. Hard to imagine anything ever being as fantastic as Ohtani or Harper. But for pitchers this is up there with Scherzer.
Yankee Clipper
Love reading this, man, thanks. It’s hard to tell because you see so much negativity surrounding the player, and without proper context, it can look bad. I’m looking forward to seeing him pitch though!
YourDreamGM
I just run the players through my program so no idea about negativity. I don’t worry about that. Chapman and Grandpal had negativity and were awesome for Pirates. Jazz had a lil negativity I believe, how he work out?
This is looking fantastic though. The last time 99% of people thought a major move was bad but Nashville and I didn’t was the Chris Sale trade. That worked out alright for Atlanta.
WaitTil2026
The key number is the $218M. They are paying him for five years of performance, spreading the $$$ out over 8.
depletion
8 years might have been the make-or-break issue to get the deal done. It is high for a 30 year old coming off a season with an injury but the guy is lights out and should be great for the Yankees. He pitched 174 innings in his “injury” year. Wish the Mets had gotten him.
Yankee Clipper
Depletion: I think you’re correct. I believe the Yankees didn’t want to drag it out and that was the deal-maker.
Mynameisnoname
Massive. 8 years is crazy, but the division is looking very winnable and this leaves Gil to headline a Tucker chase.
orbitsbrother
Gil wouldn’t headline any Tucker deal.
Mynameisnoname
For a rental? Everyone knows the Stros’ don’t dabble in the deep waters for contracts. Add Arias, Hampton, etc and that’s a possible framework.
Gil’s control is very valuable to a cheap powerhouse.
deweybelongsinthehall
Can’t see the Astros dealing with the Yankees. They may use them as leverage to increase another team:s offer but that’s it.
BLIN7Y
Why do you think this? Business is Business. If they can create a Win-Win why would the Stro’s cut their Nose off?
deweybelongsinthehall
How often have rivals made trades? Add to it how Cashman recently reminded the world that he still holds grudges for 17 and there is no way the Astros will trade a top player to him where he can try to immediately get fans to forget about Soto. He’s likely not being dealt but if he is, they will use the Yankees to get what they want from another club.
Greensoxbaseball
Doubt they’re gonna buy a rental for anything substantial after the way the soto stuff played out lol
cbraves
Gil would be a great headliner for a rental.
larkraxm
The Yankees want to move Cortes and/or Stroman. They aren’t trying to move young, controllable pitching.
Yanksfan1030
Gil/Dominguez or Jones would. But Yankees probably wouldn’t do that.
Karensjer
The only Tucker the Bankee$ are getting is Preston. No way the Astros trade him to a bitter rival unless they get Dominguez and a few Top 5 prospects.
Mynameisnoname
They’re running from paying Tucker. No leverage there. Gil has many years of cheap control left. Cash won’t include J Dom.
SotoChoseRight
Astros will find a better deal then. Virtually everyone will want a Kyle Tucker. They have leverage of competing this year and could choose to extend him if they don’t get Bregman back, the report was they would listen but a trade was unlikely. No J Dom or multiple top 10 prospects in additional to Gil and the Astros find a deal elsewhere or hold onto him until the deadline. They aren’t going to sell low to the Yankees that’s a pipe dream my friend.
SotoChoseRight
Fans always thinking there team can get a Ferrari for a Mustang just because the insurance payment is due.
Mynameisnoname
All is possible. The Soto deal just put many GM/ownership groups on their heels. Tucker will now be looking at $400+ instead of $300+.
Not many teams were willing to meet your hypothetical price for a Soto trade last year and now the cost of doing FA business is clearly trending upwards.
stymeedone
28 other teams to compete for Tucker. Yeah. No leverage at all.
danumd87
No team in baseball is going to give up that much capital for one year of any player. It’s hilarious that so many casual fans like yourself act as if it’s still 2006 when the player on the market is theirs. All of a sudden the rental is worth multiple top prospects when that hasn’t been the case for well over a decade.. The Astros won’t get anything remotely close to just Gil value for one year of Tucker. Dominguez plus is a pipe dream. The Astros would be very very fortunate to land a top 50 pick and a flier or two.
Mynameisnoname
Again, this theory didn’t play out that way for Soto last year.
Teams will compete but within the expectation it’s a one year rental unless they are prepared to fork over a top 10 all time contract as well.
JackStrawb
Don’t be absurd. Tucker’s a 4-5 win corner OFer, 29 yo in his first FA year. He’s infinitely closer to Adames than he is to 400m.
JackStrawb
@danumd87 That’s also incorrect, since it includes a #40-50 prospect, which is a far cry from a #1-10 prospect. For a team for which marginal wins matter (so, about half of them) a 4-5 win player is a very big deal, particularly without having to buy into the player’s decline phase.
On top of that, the acquiring team gets a QO pick when Tucker departs.
Mynameisnoname
Has been 5-6 WAR per 162 player 2021-2023 and last year he upped that to a 8.5 WAR per 162 and 180 wRC+ effort.
I believe he’ll get 10/400 for his age 29-38 seasons. And that’s piggy backing the Stros beat reporter who was being interviewed at the winter meetings this afternoon.
Sunday Lasagna
Didn’t the Yankees give up serious talent for a one year rental of Soto? Wouldn’t Tucker return near the same in a trade?
larkraxm
I think that when look back at what the Yankees gave up for Soto we can debate “serious” talent. King is a good pitcher but the Yankees got Soto and Grisham for him, a back up catcher and some triple- A arms that Matt Blake magically turned into Soto. The real story is that after trading all that serious talent for Soto, Luis Gil was better than all of them and won rookie of the year.
MrMet1979 2
Gil wasn’t better than Michael King. He had 200Ks and pitched to a sub 3 ERA in the NL West.He and Vasquez will be in the Padres rotation for years and the GM flipped Drew Thorpe for Dylan Cease who the Yankees wanted. The Padres got the better of the deal but Cashman knew Soto was most likely a rental.
Baseballisthebest
Danu, unless your name is Soto. Look at what the Yankees gave up for him.
Baseballisthebest
That’s a huge stretch myname. Tucker played 78 games in 2024.
brucenewton
Yankees only have one top 100 prospect. Trades for prominent prospects will be difficult. Just buy.
larkraxm
See the above response. I hear what you are saying, but then they pull the AL ROY out of nowhere. I also agree that it is better to spend money than prospect capital. Even if they aren’t top 100 prospects, they are our prospects and money isn’t even real!
KnicksFanCavsFan
@Karen
Settle down. It’s a 1 year rental. Look at the haul SD got for Soto? Why would you expect them to post more, especially with the possibility he’ll walk like Soto?
Anthony maresca
Gil is NOT going anywhere please stop as he is their youngest pitcher plus a righty
metsin4
I would agree but Tucker is special.
Mynameisnoname
For Tucker, he sure could. We’re talking a 6-10 WAR player. Gil has been on and off healthy his entire duration through the system.
rmullig2
Tucker has never been a 6 WAR player. The Yankees are not giving up more for him than they gave up for Soto.
Mynameisnoname
4.2 WAR in 78 games last year. ~6 WAR per 162 the previous 3 before that
rmullig2
The fact that he missed over 100 games to injury last year makes him even less desirable as a rental.
Astros_fan_in_Aus
He fouled a ball into his shin and cracked the bone. Could happen to anyone and does nothing to diminish his worth.
El Kabong
Yep. It puts a ton of pressure on Baltimore. The Orioles needed rotation upgrades with Burnes. They will be way behind the eight-ball if they don’t sign him. Now is no time for the Orioles to be shy about spending. And we know the Yankees aren’t close to done. Not even this week.
Johnny Devil
Huge overpay.
dasit
have you seen what pitchers are getting? 8 years is a lot but the annual salary is a bargain. yankees need to win before the cole/judge window closes
Chasefor28nyy
26 million a year is an overpay?
KennyF’nPowers
8 years for a 30 year old SP. Ouch. Odds are against him being a good SP the last three years of that deal. I guess Cashman had to do something before he was dragged through the streets of the Bronx.
danumd87
The 8 years is insanity. The aav is actually a tad low but the extra two years and 50+ mil on the contract is insanity for a guy with Fried’s track record. I love the player but the guy has made more than 14 starts in a season only four times heading into his age 31 season. 8 years for that guy is just absolute desperation insanity from the yankees.
sultan of swat
No he isn’t.
Johnny Devil
Years my ill informed friend
danumd87
I don’t think there is any pressure on the Orioles at all. The Orioles had one of the worst injury seasons of all time last year and still made the playoffs. The Yankees, conversely, are an old and unathletic team that shockingly dealt with almost no injuries of consequence over the course of the season. The Orioles remain vastly more talented and are going to have Felix back to start the season with both Wells and Bradish on their way. Meanwhile their lineup is vastly superior to the Yankees and they’re not done either. If the Orioles add say Eovaldi, Hoffman, and another quality reliever they’ll be double digit games on paper better than the Yankees before factoring in reinforcements. If the Yankees add another 50 mil to the payroll they might…might…have a shot at being relevant next season. As is, they are not a contender or threat to the Orioles at all.
Thornton Mellon
I enjoy your enthusiasm for the Orioles. However….
Bradish is not coming back until after ASB.
The Orioles without further moves are entering the season with Rodriguez and Eflin as proven above average to excellent starters. After that they’re choosing between Kremer, Suarez, Rogers, MacDermitt…this rotation cannot be considered to be that of the division favorite. I don’t see Wells as a palatable starter either.
I am afraid that the Fried deal will price Burnes out of Orioles’ wallet and Eovaldi alone isn’t enough of a rotation upgrade.
WITH Burnes after ASB last year the team was a few games below .500…
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Orioles “had one of the worst injury seasons of all time” come on man, you know that’s hyperbole. That is not even close to the truth. Please back any of that nonsense up and quit overhyping your team that strikes out way too much and ran out of gas sometime in late July.
danumd87 2
They had every starting pitcher on the IL last season with two, including a 2023 cy contender, missing almost the whole season. Their AS closer missed the whole season. And they played most of the second half down their top 3 pen arms. Yes, at least on the pitching side, it was an all-time bad injury season. The funny thing is that it’s not even a remotely debatable statement.
MrMet1979 2
Any deal for Kyle Tucker will involve Dominguez or Spencer Jones
El Kabong
Otherwise, the Astros will keep Tucker or trade him to another team looking to make a deep run. He can be a difference-maker.
Mynameisnoname
Much more likely they trade him while his value is highest. 6 > 2 months of Tucker. Teams didn’t pony up for a Soto trade last year.
He may not be going anywhere as the Stros tend to let their stars go for nothing but comp picks. It’s clear though that the Soto contract poured cold water on Tucker being an Astro for life in Crane’s eyes.
Mynameisnoname
I don’t believe that’s conclusive. Jones absolutely could be a piece, but J Dom is Cashman’s jewel.
And I imagine the Yankees would explore a sign and extend.
mercurymets
Nice try, trying to leverage the value of the classic overachieving ROY who wasn’t even a top 100 prospect to try and snag one of the best players in the game. You are not going to want to hear it, but in order to get your bitter rival to even considering trading their stud player to you, it is going to have to hurt and make YOU uncomfortable. Sorry, that’s how it works. So that means Dominguez, Spencer Jones AND Gil to start. Then maaaybe the Astros will consider, but that is all. They probably can get a better offer from other teams anyway.
Mynameisnoname
Savant shows Gil has some of the best raw stuff. Most thought he was destined for a relief role. Gil, Jones, Hampton, Arias would be worth considering.
I initially only said this frees up Gil for a Tucker trade and as Soto showed us last year, only a handful of teams are willing to trade controllable pieces for rentals with impending historic contracts.
jerseyjohn
No way bro. I’m not giving up Gil for Tucker. We can Dump Stroman or Cortes on the Cubs for Bellinger.
Ma4170
Not sure why astro fans saying Gil couldnt headline a tucker deal. They’d love to get a potential TOR sp for a rental. Another prospect would have to go, but thats a very fair start.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
If the Astros wanted to trade Tucker, there are many teams that could offer up better prospects than the Yankees. If the Yankees want Tucker they need to wait until he’s a free agent.
fred-3
8 years for a pitcher who has been dealing with elbow issues for the last few years…
Rocker49
Sounds like a solid idea to me! And a deserving team and fanbase for such an awful contract length.
APD
Won’t talk about the fanbase, because some (or many) guys really deserve that but what has the team did? Spent money? Like half of the league at this point ? Most of the hate against the “evil empire” seems a lot like “upvote fishing” nowadays
youngliam
Agreed, as a Giants fan it’s beyond frustrating knowing our team is printing money on that land and still not spending like they should.
Pete'sView
Give it time, the Giants are on their way. It’s early in the off season and don’t cling to Greg Johnson’s words.
YourDreamGM
They get the medicals and a physical. They are only concerned with his elbow going forward. Have to assume they know how to do their job.
Kc smoke
1 Cy Young surgery away from being one of the worst contracts ever.
fred-3
Fried has been horrible in the playoffs, too. This contract is hilarious.
formegn hardgin
literally won the world series clincher after a guy stepped on his leg but ok.
fred-3
A 5 ERA is a 5 ERA., that;s basically 2+ runs higher than his regular season ERA.
JackStrawb
@fred-3 What’s hilarious is that 90% of you believe in clutchiness.
Baseballisthebest
Fred, Kershaw’s ERA is almost 2 points higher than in the regular season. Must be a terrible pitcher. Why would any team want him?
Kc smoke
Tommy John* how’d I mix up the award with the surgery?
Sluice Deuce
I don’t know how but I got a good laugh out of it AND the correction!! So good.
Smacky
I knew what you meant
dasit
we knew what you meant 😉
Smacky
Had Tommy John right after he was drafted. His elbow has never been his problem. His problem is he’s too skinny. Dude can hit though. Legit silver slugger. Has a walk off pinch hit.
avenger65
Smacky: After seeing so many overweight pitchers, it’s nice to see one where you can actually see their belt.
stymeedone
@ kc smoke
True of every Pitching contract.
Kc smoke
Not every contract is this expensive. Seth Lugo was a WAY better pitcher last year and makes almost 1 Freid seasons salary over 2 years, although he’s going to opt out of that 3rd season barring injury.
Chasefor28nyy
Worst contract every lol. did you just see what Soto got im guessing that’s gonna go down as one of the worst contracts ever. He might be elite for maybe 5 of those years then you have 10 years left
sultan of swat
Plus he’s already 30
Oldguy58
31 in January
Led Hoyer
Yea, I think they became drunken sailors. Yankees need a new front office.
bucsfan0004
Marcus Stroman is still a worse contract than Fried
MrMet1979 2
And has been one of the best lefties in baseball for the last 5-6 seasons. Depends on how you look at it. Rodon was a much bigger risk. Fried doesn’t rely on velocity to record outs. He can pitch.
Johnny Devil
Huge overpay
stymeedone
@ Mr met
Yeah and that Rodon contract has worked out so well.
rmullig2
He had one season in the last six in which he was affected by injury. He’s as reliable as just about any pitcher out there.
SocoComfort
“He had one season in the last six in which he was affected by injury. He’s as reliable as just about any pitcher out there.”
Are you serious??? Fried always has at least one trip to IL a year. He has had forearm issues the last couple years and blister issues over the course of his career. 2024 and 2023 forearm issues. He has had hamstring issues in 2021 and 2022. An ankle issues before that.
rmullig2
He has had hamstring issues in 2021 and 2022.
He pitched 351 innings combined those two seasons. Obviously the hamstrings weren’t bothering him that much.
He has had forearm issues the last couple years and blister issues over the course of his career. 2024 and 2023 forearm issues.
Still pitched 252 innings combined in those years. For a guy who’s supposedly injury prone he pitches a lot.
SocoComfort
Just stating that he is usually injured with something every year. It is usually a
Smaller injury he plays through. I give you that
YaySports
He’s hiding within the good of Max’s numbers now. They’ll figure it out next year. Love the guy and hate to say it but I’ll be surprised if he lasts 5 years much less 8.
SocoComfort
Yes he is a good pitcher and injuries typically become either more severe or frequent with age. The contract is definitely something to be skeptical about but can understand why Yankee fans maybe excited for now. Got some flack the other day as I said that the Yankee fan base can easily turn on Fried. This could go bad or it could go great in the short term. I just don’t know if Fried can handle the NY fan and media heat if things go bad. It’s a different animal up here in New York speaking from a Braves fan in Yankee land. His past postseason outings the last few years will not be overlooked in NYC or as easily forgiven compared to Atlanta.
Damn Yankee$
They all deal with elbow issues. Clearly his medicals were clean. Keep hating.
Lloyd Emerson
Wow
jdgoat
Great pitcher, horrible deal
Pageup
This was a 5 for $135 mil. Wonder what the 2nd highest offer was?
DirtyWater04
John Henry coming in hot with an aggressive 6 for $74, I bet
bluesteele
Not overreacting at all!!! My gosh.
Gmen777
If Fried gets eight how does Burnes not get ten?
Pete'sView
And what teams are left ready to spend that much? Don’t tell me the Dodgers are going to buy another arm or I’ll puke. Blue Jays? Giants? Red Sox? Mets? Orioles go large for once?
Gmen777
I think the one of the four last teams you mentioned. My gut says Red Sox or Mets. I don’t see Posey giving this much money to a SP
CommentsSectionCommenter
@Pete’s
And the Dodgers are going to buy another arm….
JackStrawb
Teams would love to get Burnes for 10 years, letting them lower the AAV.
What they’re not doing is giving him the same AAV for 10 that they might offer for 8.
yankee766766
Gmen. Because it will be all about the AAV for Burnes….like 8/$260M
Baseballisthebest
Burnes gets 8 now instead of 7, but he will get closer to $36 million AAV.
Blue Baron
Nice Jewish boy coming to New York.
dasit
i have to celebrate this. where’s my shofar?
Gwynning
And I ran, I ran shofar away…
Lilscrappy
I signed up for an account just to upvote this comment. Le Chaim!!
tikiagedola
He better watch out for the H@mas lovers
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Man why do you always have to bring religion into it ? (/sarc)
Baseballisthebest
Will he pitch on the shabbat?
Blue Baron
Don’t know how observant he is.
sports_fan1
What a deal I love this deal I’m glad they got rid of Soto the will ball out even more
avenger65
sports: What?
Astros_fan_in_Aus
Translation required.
Lilscrappy
Talking smack to ppl who use street slang is racist (though very on-brand for a Texas sports fan). The Yankees play in the Bronx, how tf you expect people from the Bronx to talk? Look it up on urban dictionary if you don’t understand. You wouldn’t quibble with someone posting a 10 cent word you didn’t understand, so take a seat on this one too.
Gwynning
Oh Scrappy… you signed up for an account today… just to accuse somebody of being RaCisT?!? Give it a rest, my man.
SotoChoseRight
This is HILARIOUS I was just reading all the Yankee fans going crazy about the idea of a 7year deal I make an account to post and then this post comes up they signed him for 8 years! Lol Fried is good but paying a SP from age 31-39 rarely ever works out.
pepenas34
The years is to reduce the lux tax, I can see a big signing bonus and som deferrals to bring under 25MM the lux tax.
metsin4
No it’s not. They will be over the luxury tax every year of the deal. They didn’t want to lose out again.
avenger65
SotoChoseRight: I think it’s funny watching Yankees fans burning Soto’s jersey. His name isn’t even on it!
JackStrawb
The bonus doesn’t let teams evade the LT.
BLIN7Y
G. Cole anyone
Mynameisnoname
31-38, but point taken. The Yankees probably added the eighth tear to bring the AAV to 27 instead of 31. That’s their version of kicking the can down the road.
Who knows what the next CBA will allow for LT purposes and with this rate of inflation, Im guessing the hit won’t be as brutal as present day.
Balk
Damn! That’s crazy amount of years. Hope he works out well for you guys!
C Yards Jeff
And in a related non-relatable story, the Tigers signed Alex Cobb.
avenger65
C Yards: Another Cobb in Detroit. That’s a lot of pressure on Alex.
Pete'sView
Alex Cobb is a good pitcher when healthy. And a very good clubhouse guy.
BCleveland3381
This is wild. 3 long term, big money pitcher contracts and a shaky offense. What a mess.
BLIN7Y
1963 DODGERS
BCleveland3381
Dead ball era strategy probably not the smartest 60 years later
danumd87
It’s amusing to watch the Yankees in panic mode. They have no clue how to construct this roster given their many holes/weaknesses and what is presently available on the FA market.
Fat Lever
I think they ought to call you and ask what they should do next. Go sit by the phone and let us know how the call goes.
BCleveland3381
It’s a comment section, ma’am. I’m allowed to have an opinion if I think a team is acting stupid. Sorry you can’t handle it. Turn your wifi off, lady.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
You must be careful not to mis-gender anybody and if you don’t know, ask. Or else we will be forced to put our pronouns next to our screen name.
danumd87 2
sorry Fatty
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Uh OH! That’s two demerits now for you – mis-gendering, and now sizeism. Didn’t your Mommy teach you anything?
Ann Porkins
The $27.5M AAV seems in line with many projections, but for eight years really makes it a great deal for Fried.
I imagine Burnes will be in better position to secure a seventh or eighth year, and can probably top $30M at such a length.
BLIN7Y
Agreed, Burnes will get a huge Overpay. Yanks acted quickly and will beat the rush. Now they can focus on a RP and mid Starter
Yankee Clipper
Agreed, but I’m glad the Yankees acted. Oftentimes they try to wait out the market and end up overpaying for much lesser talent, for which I criticize Brian Cashman.
This time, it seems the Soto loss has them realizing the urgency of their current considerations.
Dice 66
Wow! Bullpen is where it starts thou!
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
They’re gonna regret giving him 8 years instead of 6. With maybe an option for a 7th year. Regrets will set in at about year 4
stymeedone
If they had offered 6, he wouldn’t have signed. I know this because he didn’t sign at 7 years either.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Could’ve raided the aav.
BLIN7Y
Maybe
YourDreamGM
They would have given him 9 or 10 if he let em.
Mike the Fat Oriole Bird
Barf.
Just when you think the O’s are going to jump into the spending circus for the first time in decades, you have the winter of Soto and Fried and whomever is next.
Sluice Deuce
For real. I’m nervously dreading having to be PO’d at the NEW ownership now.
I don’t know if he realizes how tenuous this offseason is. Mr. Rubenstein, sir, I realize your funds are not that of other ownership groups, but the time to spend your hard earned lifetime fortune is NOW baby. Not next year, or sometime down the road, not gradually. NOW.
I sincerely hope the Orioles fans BOO this man loudly when he’s on the “jumbotron” IF we don’t see some serious spending, both on major free agent pitching AND in-house extensions, before ST starts.
I really, really hope it doesn’t come to that. Come on, man.
Led Hoyer
Orioles are stacked with young talent. Young talent gets expensive fast. The cubs signed stupid contracts and had to blow it all up. Orioles looking to the future is smart. I’d trade for Crochet
danumd87
I’m hoping for Eovaldi, Hoffman, and one of Yates/Estevez/Minter/etc. With Felix set to be back to start the season, Wells back no later than May (assuming no set back), and Bradish during the second half there are plenty of pitching reinforcements on the way. Grayson/Efflin/Eovaldi with Kremer/Suarez/Povich filling out the 4-5 should be fine to hold down the fort until then. We can’t forget that there’s always the chance that some guys in the young core of Holliday/Westburg/Mayo/Kjerstad/Cowser will take a step forward to supplement Gunnar/Adley/O’Neil/O’Hearn/Mountcastle. If two of those five take a decent step forward the Orioles should run away with the division regardless of what the Yankees try to do to supplement a roster that is old with no speed, no defense, and a currently below average offense.
Mike the Fat Oriole Bird
They have such a great offensive core that could turn into a murderer’s row. Lots of potential there, for sure. I’m grateful for this. But I wish we had an owner that would go all-in and solidify the starting pitching. I know you can overpay or that a trade could flop, but I just want to know what it’s like to take a few big risks.
Mike the Fat Oriole Bird
He might be learning the hard way the realities being in the same world as Los Angeles and New York. Its his bank account and he has the right to spend as he seems fit, but yeah, considering the “Second Coming of Christ” welcome he got when Angelos retired, fans won’t be forgiving if he ends up being thrifty and safe at a time when this team is a contender.
YourDreamGM
Teams are all talk. It’s NY LA period. LA NY. Once in awhile Boston gets in the mix allegedly.
Beernbaseballguy
Well it’s not surprising since they said they won’t go after Free Agents with QO attached. Technically they could still go after Burnes. I would’ve assumed they’d be more in on Crochet, but who knows they traded for Burnes late last winter. As a Yankees fan I am all for the O’s not improving, but smart money is their rotation will have a new name in it.
Mike the Fat Oriole Bird
We need another starter and I don’t think Burnes is coming back. I have a feeling we’re going to pull the “smart, safe” deal for another pitcher, whether it be via trade or FA. However, it seems that if you’re shooting for a “smart, safe” deal on a decent FA pitcher, you’re going to be outbid quickly this winter. Congrats on Fried.
Beernbaseballguy
Thank you. I am hoping this one ages well, however unlikely as an 8 year contract for anyone does. Winter’s early both teams have plenty of time to change. You surely have the prospect capital to get anyone you want that’s on the trading block.
Karensjer
How long until he gets Tommy John Surgery?
Yankee Clipper
Hopefully 9 years!
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Lol. Rumor has it that the Red Sox were interested in Tommy John Surgery!
riffraff
June 22nd 2025 – bookmark this page so you know where you heard it first
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Lol. Rumor has it that the Red Sox were interested in book marking this page!
TheGr8One
The last 4 years are the price of doing business for the first 4 years.
stymeedone
Says a person whose business goes bankrupt within 8 years. (The NYY won’t go bankrupt, just suck for several years)
TheGr8One
No says someone who’s seen this deal a lot. Robinson cano Seattle deal same thing. Paid 10 to get 5 good and eat the rest. You don’t think the Mets think they’re getting 15 of the best Soto years?
10centBeerNight
Hal cosplaying George.
Mondesi’s Cannon
Yikes! He will be Fried after the 6th season…
Edp007
A hearty Mazal Tov to Max and the Fried family !!
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Great signing! The Yankees now need to sign Burnes if they want a legitimate chance of beating the Dodgers in the WS next year.
SotoChoseRight
Yeah 8yr-$218mil for 31yr old injury plagued Fried & what 8yr-$240mil for a regressing Burnes? His strikeout rate is dropping at an alarming rate. Pitching to more contact at Yankee Stadium isn’t exactly a recipe for success. I really hope your right though and the Yanks are stuck with two deals that will age terribly.
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Can 8 years / $250 million get it done?
SotoChoseRight
Yes and 90% of the league will be glad it’s Yankees stuck with back 9 of the contract and not their team.
JackStrawb
It’s not so much the Fried deal, but that they’ve got Cole, Judge, Rodon, Stanton, and now Fried growing old at the same time. $160 million AAV for those 5.
The Mets avoided that with Soto. Their old nucleus is something like $135m with Marte departing after 2025 and McNeil after 2026, Senga and Diaz after 2028
metsin4
Not with their offense. They won’t even be projected to finish 2nd in their division.
1999 MLB All Star MVP
They should sign Bregman and Alonso. That would be an insane lineup
1999 MLB All Star MVP
6 years / $150 million for each?
JackStrawb
Just ignore anyone who wants to sign Alonso. Better yet, press Mute.
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Lol. Rumor has it that the Red Sox were interested in pressing mute!
Blue Baron
1999: The Yankees won’t sniff the World Series next year.
Pete'sView
1999 MLB All Star MVP — Not without some offense. Yanks don’t need Burnes.
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Lol. Rumor has it that the Red Sox were interested in some offense!
Ronk325
I don’t like this deal at all. Seems like a desperation play after losing Soto
just_thinkin
It is exactly that
Salzilla
Not really, Burnes and Fried were going to get paid regardless of Soto. Yanks needed a starting pitcher, we got one. Checks the box.
Ronk325
SP wasn’t nearly as big of a need for the Yankees as upgrading the lineup. Cole, Rodon, Schmidt, Gil, and whoever at 5 would have been perfectly fine. The Yankees shouldn’t be signing another none ace to an expensive long term deal
Salzilla
Fried would be #1 on a lot of rotations and slots in here at #2, instantly making the rotation deeper and better. There’s a big trade coming and I think Gil, who’s value is elevated roght now, will be part of it.
Ronk325
Fried’s placement in other rotations is irrelevant. He’s a very good pitcher but not an ace. Similar to Rodon two years ago and to this point he has not lived up to expectations. Gil is a talented, controllable SP who costs next to nothing. He’s a guy the Yankees should keep, not trade away. I can’t see the Astros trading Tucker to the Yankees even if Gil in involved. There doesn’t really seem to be anyone else worth moving Gil for either
JackStrawb
The Yankees weren’t getting by with that rotation. Old, wobbly, with an ERA+ around 109 from their front five. That’s not enough.
JackStrawb
Fried slots in at #1. He’s only at #2 if they want Cole to feel good.
Ronk325
They just went to the World Series with that rotation and it was far from the weakest link of the team. Cole is significantly better than Fried. This is one of the the most clueless takes I’ve seen in a long time
Karensjer
Exactly. They are old and ready to break down. I’m waiting for the day when Cole, and/or Rodon, and/or Cortez go down with Tommy John. Don’t see why they think Gil is so special either. He seems like a serviceable #3, maybe #2 if they are really lucky, but definitely not good enough to convince the Astros to trade Tucker to a huge rival (even if Dominguez is included). They need a good rotation with their bullpen blown up as well as Soto no longer there to give Judge someone to protect. I hope they lose a few starters and the offense craps out and they are sub-.500 by July.
BLIN7Y
They were working on this all along, you would know that if you were following the actions over the last 10 Days or so
danumd87
That’s because it is
HalosHeavenJJ
It’s turning into Monopoly money at this point.
Good for Max, but 8 years is a long time.
metsin4
I guess the Yankees had to do something ridiculous after losing Soto. 8 years for a pitcher that’s been getting hit with injuries more and more frequently.
Wrian Washman
Mets fans couldn’t wait to be relevant enough to make a comment like this again. Because 15 years and 800 million is SOO reasonable for a right fielder with bad defense.
metsin4
Yet every team with the money wanted to do the same thing.
avenger65
I would say taking the eventual WS champions to six games in the NLCS is pretty relevant.
stymeedone
No, not to that level. Just the NY teams having a pithing contest.
JackStrawb
If that was the case, the bidding would be ongoing.
This one belongs to the Reds
8 years for ANY pitcher is nuts.
Pete'sView
And that is what MLB has become. The owners make obscene money, the players should too. But what about first responders, nurses, teachers?
Blue Baron
They don’t generate the kind of revenue that performers do.
unpaidobserver
No fastball.
NashvilleJeff
@unpaid: Sorry to correct you, but Fried can run it up to 97 and sits 94-95. His fb is much more than a show me pitch. Spots it well, throws it up to lh and rh hitters.
Smacky
Yeah, Braves weren’t going to get a home town discount. Good on Max and his dynamic personality. This is insane money and years.
SocoComfort
Well we knew that when he didn’t resign. We’ve seen this with Freeman and Swanson. If they hit free agency then you know they are gone. Braves don’t get into bidding wars with players they can’t extend. Like Freeman and Swanson best luck to them unless playing the Braves.
SotoChoseRight
This guarantees Burnes gets at least 8yr-$240million
mlbnyyfan
Now Yankees need to trade Stroman and Cortes for help in the Lineup. Cole, Fried, Gil, Rondon, and Schmidt. A solid starting 5. Sign Walker for 1B and trade for Bellinger for CF. Profar would look good in LF, too.
Player to be named in the future 2
Good luck with that trade
avenger65
mlbnyyfan: Profar, like Montgomery, can only play well for one team.
stymeedone
Yes! Please pay Profar for his career year, before he turns back into a pumpkin.
Pete'sView
Bellinger isn’t much of a CF anymore, but I do think Yanks will trade for him—Cubs want out from that contract.
Blue Baron
mlbnyyfan: Stroman has zero trade value.
JackStrawb
Don’t be so sure. Fried’s better on a per inning basis, and Burnes is in decline.
yukongold
Did he get a suite??
metsin4
No the Yankees are to cheap to give suites.
rmullig2
Unlike the Mets, the Yankees have people who want to buy suites so they can’t just give them away
yukongold
The same Yankees that charge their players for wifi on flights?
Blue Baron
rmullig2: What an amazingly ignorant comment.
Lilscrappy
Is your hair red by any chance?
Do you have step-parents?
Wrian Washman
Fans: Can we please get defense and contact hitting with RISP
Yankees: How about ANOTHER overpaid starter
Salzilla
We needed a starter, my man. One item checked off.
Scott Costello
This is a Cashman specialty! Never get a need, but strengthen a strength. The scary thing is that if history is any indication, Max will suck with the Yankees. If cashman has multiple SPs to pick from, he will pick the wrong one.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Yeah I don’t know about Fried’s quirky personality and how it will hold up under the bright New York lights and media scrutiny. Imagine Grienke as a Yankee…I don’t think that would have flown. This could be a similar situation.
Killer of Ignorance
This is a direct result of the Soto deal. Every friggin’ agent out there is going to want more money/years for their guy/guys. It was probably necessary to best the Jays and Red Sox.
Blue Baron
Killer: Good for them and their clients.
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
8 years? Wow. Good for Max.
Gwynning
Yeah, but also yikes!
alwaysgo4two
A million dollars a start, maybe. Most likely much more because of his injury history.
gigantedelnorte
That’s insane money. This is desperation!
This one belongs to the Reds
Nu Yawk is a whole different planet, son!
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Wow. Just… wow. Ouch. This…. is gonna be bad. This is going to go so so so poorly.
Sigh.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
To be clear: I think 2-3 years of Fried at any rate is an excellent signing. If it had been 3 years/$105M or 3 years/$120M I’d be happy as can be, but it’s the total years that freak me out.
I do know Cashman’s M.O. of late has been to over extend on years in order to get AAV’s down, so I am sure they took the approach of like, “we see this as a 5 year/$218M style deal at $43.6M AAV, but we’d like to stretch that out to get the AAV down by about $16.35M a year, so we’re proposing an additional 3 years to lower the AAV”
And then they get stuck with still way overpaid players who have aged out of their effectiveness with a few years left to burn off- Aaron Hicks, DJ LeMahieu, etc.
Dubbs
LMAOOOOOO!!!
johncoltrane
hey yankee fans congrats on fried
oh btw soto is STILL a met! hahahahaha
how many WS is soto gonna bring to queens? 3? 5?
yanks had their chance. they melted down vs Dodgers like a stick of butter on a summer day
meet the mets, meet the mets, step right up and greet the mets!
wreckage
Didn’t the Dodgers make the Mets their b1+@# earlier in the post season?
GhostofRandySavage
Settle down the Mets are running montas and cardiac clay out there every 5. Not exactly great.
cbraves
Hate to say this, but even with Soto, the Mets are still behind the Yankees barring a couple more big moves.
JackStrawb
@cbraves With the Yankees presumably out of the running for Crochet, that leaves the Mets with both the inside track and enough top 100 position prospects to get it done.
Though it’s true even after Soto, Montas, and Holmes the Mets are still only a .500 team.
They won 89, which was what their RS and RA supported, and lost 16 WAR what with 14 departing players. Call Soto a 7 win player, Holmes and Montas worth roughly 3 wins, and the Mets are back up to 83 wins.
The Mets problem is they don’t have any prospects who rate to make a significant dent in 2025, and their old, $130m nucleus that underperformed in 2024 is now a year older.
Of Lindor, Nimmo, Senga, Diaz, McNeil, and Marte ($125m total) only Lindor was valuable. Nimmo was hurt, Senga missed the year, Diaz was erratic, McNeil couldn’t figure it out for 3-1/2 months, and Marte’s been at best a 5th OFer in 2022-2023. And now they’ll be 31, 32, 32, 31, 33, and 36. The last 5 gave them 4.8 WAR for $91 million. That’s… awful, though add Lindor back in and they’re at 11.8 WAR for $125m. That looks a lot better, actually.
Killer of Ignorance
Who have almost no decent starting pitching.
Salzilla
Well you got five years and an opt out to get those 3-5…
BaseballClassic1985
Enjoy this butchery for the next 15 years hahaha
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Killer of Ignorance
Mets are so desperate for starters some brainiac signed Clay Holmes to turn him into a starter. I was so sick of Clay Holmes last year when he blew 13 saves and had no idea where his pitches were going.
JackStrawb
@Killer of Ignorance No better way to say you don’t understand the approach.
The Mets like most of the reasonably smart teams in the 2020s are putting together, piecing 162 starts rather than aiming to build a ‘rotation’ (so 2010s in an era where getting 180 innings is rare, with pitchers going all out on every pitch and with injuries therefore epidemic).
They now have four starters, three of whom project to be above average, and one who rates to be in the 4.00 FIP range—ie average. That they’re doing it by including Holmes on an inexpensive deal that includes the fallback position of moving a useful closer arm to the pen if starting doesn’t work out, only means they’re making a smart bet—assuming they’re going with 6 starters.
They look to be very serious about Crochet and have the prospects to get it done, leaving one more SP addition. I hope they don’t try to fake it between Blackburn and Megill, who are better positioned as MIRPs and as #7 and 8 starters rather than as #6’s, though I suppose Megill can fake the lattermost.
As for blown saves, you just admitted you believe in clutchiness. That’s funny. Don’t do that. Clutch in baseball has never been shown to exist.
It’s common sense, as well. If a guy can turn it on some of the time, why isn’t he turning it on all of the time, particularly when that would add tens and even hundreds of millions of dollars to hit salaries over his career?
BLIN7Y
These NUTZ
mab51357
Easy does it. With those expectations you’re probably going to be depressed. It’s pretty damn tough to win it all. Lots has to go right. And as of now I don’t think they have the pitching to win it all. We haven’t heard much from the Phillies but they are going to be tough competition for Mets, Dodgers and everyone else.
johncoltrane
@mab
i’ve been a mets fan my entire life. i’ve been thru depression most people cant even fathom. i’ve been thru the 5 stages of grief year after year after year. i’ve been thru like 190 stages of grief at this point. lemme enjoy this for f sake
mab51357
Johncoltrane.I love your attitude. Sounds like you’ve earned your enthusiasm. Have at it & good luck.
Lilscrappy
Dat inferiority complex doe
splitopennbill
It’s the Mets. They won’t win even with Soto. Soto will be demanding a trade by year 5. What are you smoking?
splitopennbill
Err opting out. He won’t even have to ask, he will just leave. Cohens track record so far is spending a ton of money on a couple of pieces and then hoping the bargain bin will get them the rest of the way. The Mets wayyy over achieved this year and still only won 80 games.
mab51357
I agree with the overachieving. They got hot at the right time and took advantage. Any team that gets in the playoffs has a decent chance to go all the way. It’s all about who gets hot.
johncoltrane
@split
Mets just made NLCS without soto
He is that missing piece to push them over the edge
Its a new era of mets baseball
Cohen is paying the bills
Stearns is running the show
By year 5 soto will be preparing his HOF speech wearing a mets cap
getrealgone2
Have fun with that Yanks. Be prepared for a couple of IL stints a year.
CaseyAbell
The Yankees will get the headlines for…a few hours. Until another massive payday comes along.
The ginormous deals must mean that clubs are looking at good advance ticket sales and at least decent media money. Or maybe they’re just all crazy.
dasit
yes! cole/fried can be the 1-2 punch we thought we were getting with rodon
Salzilla
And Rodon might be the best #3 in baseball now.
JackStrawb
@Salzilla That would be Gil. Rodon’s FIP was 4.39 in 2024. Giving up 1.6 HR per 9 is abysmal.
Still, his other peripheral stats are solid. If he can cut the HR, the Yankees have a phenomenal rotation. Wonder what they’re going to do to add two bats. Christian Walker fits, and I can see a trade for Tucker with Jazz moving to 2B. That would be a he!!uva team. Not a fan, but with that rotation and two more bats, both on the short term, and they’re in great shape. Walker, Tucker, and Fried blow Soto’s value out of the water—that’s something like 10 wins to 6-7 wins from Soto, albeit for around a $67m AAV in 2025.
Salzilla
The Yanks won’t think that way, npt with his contract and experience. Rodon is their number 3.
My gut says Gil is getting traded.
Mickey Solis
He wanted to sign up with his hometown All-Star team the Dodgers but the sign-up sheet was full. All the other superstars beat him to the punch. The price is left blank, just ask for whatever you want and those dirtbags will pay it (deferred). Instead, he ends up with the sad Yankees whose dirtbaggery has long been replaced by the moneybags in Hollyweird.
Bivouac-Sal
seek professional help Mickey
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Why do I think you wouldn’t have a problem with these deals or care which teams offered them if it was you or someone close to you being offered these deals…
Mickey Solis
You can still get a boatload of money and have some personal character by not taking the Kevin Durant cop-out route.
RunDMC
Good night! Good for Maxie but man. What is Corbin’s going to be at? They smell Soto money.
lloyd_christmas
even patrick is going to get paid at this point.
RunDMC
Like death and taxes, teach a kid to throw lefty or teach ’em how to put on a funeral and they’ll never go hungry. Always in demand.
“That John Denver’s full of s—, man”. Never laughed harder in my life.
YanksPhan42
Absolutely horrible contract…..especially for a guy who gets obliterated in the playoffs. Super pissed as a Yankees fan that this isn’t Burnes. Hell I would have been more excited about Eovaldi on a 3 year 60 million buck deal.
Killer of Ignorance
I hate trolls who think they’re clever trying to pass as NYY fans when you can spot them a mile away. One of the first things they say is, “as a Yankee fan.” Loser…BIG loser.
YanksPhan42
You’re a total idiot. I’ve been a Yankees fan probably since before you were born and have made countless posts on here. Go back to home room junior.
BaseballClassic1985
Fried is one of the best pitchers in the big leagues. Yes, his playoff record is spotty, but it’s a good signing. Yanks rotation is arguably the best in baseball right now.
getrealgone2
They need to be more worried about his elbow.
YanksPhan42
I disagree. EIGHT years is ridiculous for a pitcher who doesn’t miss a ton of bats, gets rocked in the playoffs and has a spotty injury history.
Corbin Burnes was my personal top target all along. Pissed we didn’t get him. Would have loved a Cole/Burnes duel ace combo.
BaseballClassic1985
Other than 2023, Fried has made a full slate of starts from 2019 to 2024. That’s not a “spotty injury history.” Guy has a career WHIP of 1.16. He’s a damn good pitcher. So is Burnes, but I don’t think the Yanks really liked him as much.
Bivouac-Sal
@baseball classic
comical
BaseballClassic1985
Yes, you are
Bivouac-Sal
@ classic85
are you in 3rd grade?
“no you are”
“no you are”
your team came 2nd in October and IF you’re lucky they will again. 2 great starters does not make a staff.
BaseballClassic1985
Like your response of “comical” was Pulitzer worthy lol gtfafm
Bivouac-Sal
there’s that typical yankee fan we all know and love
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Lol. The Red Sox were interested!
charles73
They probably just made the contract that long to get the AAV down, because I really thought he was going to get a higher AAV than that. He’s a really good pitcher though, and he doesn’t rely on velocity to get people out. He can actually pitch, and his skill set should age well in comparison to some of the harder throwers out there. Elbows seem to last longer when you keep it under 96 mph
JackStrawb
Didn’t realize MLBTR had Fried at only 6/156m. 8/218m is startling. Two additional years at a slightly higher AAV.
DR2020
this is great for the Yankees. Improve their pitching staff dramatically with this move. We still need some big bats though, we still have to get some offense from somewhere .right now. It doesn’t look like they have much of an offense.
Edp007
Yes. At least one bopper behind judge or judge will walk more than Barry lol you can get Walker and santander say for Soto money and arguably better off team wise with two plugs in the lineup over one.
Rumor Shill
I’ll take the 8 fWAR from one position Thanks.
JackStrawb
Soto’s a 6-7 WAR player. Expecting him to repeat his career year is a fool’s game.
Rumor Shill
Not expecting a repeat but filling two positions with two players that will get you less than 6 WAR total, while having lost a 7-8 war player who still has his prime peak years ahead, I’ll take Soto.
Let’s say yanks signed Alonso /Santandar, that’s 5.4 war total and now you have less places to go to get your value 1-9
Yanks4life22
Might even get 10 starts out of him before he gets TJS.
Beernbaseballguy
Not a good reason to make it an 8 year deal, but at least it does screw over the teams bidding for Burnes to pay extra.
Pete'sView
As a Giants fan, I can’t see why you want to do us such harm.
Beernbaseballguy
Honestly I just want it to be uncomfortable for Boston and Toronto. Obviously pulling for the Giants to get Burnes and get him out of the AL East
The McNasty1
Significant overpay
SomTeaver
Not in terms of AAV, but in years and total value…
nicksc10
Wow what an epic overpay.
BLIN7Y
27.5MM is not a Overpay. 8 years is probably 1 too many but this is the Market
King Floch
8 years?
Good luck with that.
Bob Sacamano 310
Perfect for the Crochet market
Suitcase Simpson
as a dodger fan who kind of wanted fried, I am relieved we went with snell
mab51357
Hopefully you can say that after a year or more. He pitched 1/3 of last year and made 30 M or so. He still walked. But I can’t blame him in going to the Dodgers if he wants to win.
cencal
……..and were the first to make a deal saving money.
rmullig2
27.25M AAV seems like a bargain considering that Frankie Montas got 17M AAV.
Boodge106
For 1 year with an option though. An 8 year contract for a pitcher and a 1-2 year deal for a pitcher are not comparable.
Salzilla
Whoa damn. That’s a LOT of years, would have preferred 5-6 tops, but I do like the pitcher so let’s gooooo! Slots in at #2 nicely. Rotation looks automatically better.
That said, I think there’s a big trade coming with Gil as a big part of it…
BLIN7Y
Cortes, Stroman, and Warren on the Block
Salzilla
Ain’t getting much back for them.
Gil may be overated right now.
BaseballClassic1985
I hope they don’t trade Gil. If they could get Crochet for some hitters, that rotation would be insane. I don’t see them trading Gil for 1 year of Kyle Tucker.
Salzilla
I’m not sure Gil is as valuable as you might think.
BaseballClassic1985
Of course you don’t lol
Salzilla
Why are you saying that? I’m Yankees fan and owned him on two fantasy teams this year. I watched him all year. There’s holes in his game. His ROTY win gives him a value boost that may never be higher.
BaseballClassic1985
The only hole in his game is too many walks. If Gil can improve his command, he could be another #1 starter. I don’t see Cashman trading Gil, who has 5 seasons of control left.
BaseballClassic1985
*4 seasons of control left
JackStrawb
Slots in at the #1 nicely, but the Yankees will see fit to pamper Cole’s ego.
Salzilla
Nah, Cole is better, no doubt. Fried is a 1A at best.
southi
Good luck to Max. Too much money for Atlanta’s budget for sure
Outfieldflyrule??
They didn’t outbid the Braves. They outbid the Red Sox, Jays, etc. Braves were out long ago.
southi
Yes, the braves were no in position to participate in a bidding war which I never said they were outbid.
I simply said it was too much money for the braves budget.
sergefunction
Still wondering why the Padres traded him for Justin Upton, and at the time I had no idea he would be worth over 60 Alex Cobbs.
letitbelowenstein
Almost feel bad for the Yankees. This contract is going to haunt them.
JackStrawb
Why? Fried will give them something like 18 WAR over the life of the deal, in an environment where you overpay for TOR starters. He’s comparable to Snell in overall performance, probably a little better in that Fried will average more innings thereby keeping a team’s #6 or 7 or 8 starter off the mound more than Snell will.
Different shapes to how they help you, but who’s more likely to be pitching competently in 150 innings in 5 years? Has to be Fried.
Yanks4life22
Wow. Just wow. Talk about spending $100+ million on a very mediocre rotation lol.
I’ll share my thoughts eventually. I’m just going to laugh at this absurd moves until then.
Daddy can’t bail you out of this one Hal he isn’t here anymore. This should be interesting.
BaseballClassic1985
Fried is not mediocre, he’s one of the best starters in MLB. If you think Fried, along with Cole, Rodon, Gil and Schmidt is mediocre, well, I can’t help you.
Yanks4life22
Rodon and Stroman are mediocre. Whoever is replacing Cole and Fried when they get TJS in the next year or two will most likely be mediocre. And there is almost a decade commitment to the Cole/Fried duo so there is really no avoiding it.
BaseballClassic1985
Congrats on one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen on this site. Another doofus muted.
Yanks4life22
What are you waiting for then. Make your move punk.
I am a Yankee fan who is very grateful for the absurd run they had in the late 90’s and a handful or two of fun seasons since then.
You are a Yankee fan who is going to seethe the next decade at the tailspin they will be in. Don’t let it get you bud. They are going to be on the decline until Cash is gone. Unfortunately it’s going to take another 5-7 years for that to happen. And at that point it’s probably Hal selling the team that pushes Cash out.
You’re angry bc the truth hurts. The longer fans like you stay in denial the longer the turn around.
Thec’s
This is insane! MLB is getting out of control!
fba0017
Eight years for a 30 year old pitcher. No wonder Yankees haven’t won a World Series in forever. lol
ssowl
8 years to lower the AAV. I’m okay with that ~$4m saved towards luxury tax
JackStrawb
Not when projections had him getting something like 6/156m. The bidding must have been fierce.
acell10
I don’t blame the sox for not going to 8 years. That’s ridiculous.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
BOS should lock up Eovaldi and then make a trade for a player not many teams are thinking about. OR maybe 2 top pitching prospects from any team, they must have analytical and scouting reports on about 750 players. OR Wait for Roki Sasaki
acell10
hard pass on Eovaldi. Really glad he signed with texas because the sox don’t need another 3 years of uncertainty given his injury history.
Goose
Not a bad signing. You get 3 more like it and the Yankees may be a better overall team without Soto. I can see them getting Bellinger to sure up CF and see his numbers getting bumped from the short right field fence.
As soon as I heard the Red Sox showed ‘interest’ I knew someone was signing him today.
JackStrawb
@Goose I’m thinking Walker and a trade for Tucker. That’s roughly 10 wins vs 6-7 from Soto, albeit at $67m in 2025 vs $51m for Soto, plus the value of the prospect(s).
Still, that’s one way to turn the Yankees into serious WS contenders.
sergefunction
Tarik Skubal needs 2027 to hurry up and get here to sign his 110-year, $14B, plus Canada, Brazil and Saturn contract with the Mets.
With an opt out each year after 2075.
That’s barely crazier than what we are reading this week.
pepenas34
It was smart to luck Snell before the stampede started. They did pay market value, but market has moved since.
restingmitchface
Dodgers’ deal with Snell is already looking really nice.
JackStrawb
Well, it’s looking about the same as it did before. Fried rates to pitch more innings and more years, but if Snell survives until the postseason his raw stuff probably plays better.
El Kabong
Question for all: Which deal do you prefer?
Blake Snell at 5 years, $182M.
Max Fried at 8 years, $218M.
machurucuto
Fried a thousand times
pepenas34
Why choose the 2 time Cy
fred-3
Fried is likely to be a sunk cost by year 5 or 6 of this deal. At least Snell is only 5 years. Look at a list of the best pitchers from 8 years ago if you think Fried’s contract will age well.
Led Hoyer
Fried contract is going to be horrible sooner rather than later. This is a win now deal. The Yankees are old and getting older.
Pete'sView
Snell.
Tim Dierkes
Snell and it’s not close
El Kabong
Tim, In years 6-8, the Dodgers will likely get more value from Snell’s vacated rotation slot than the Yankees will get from Fried.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Definitely Door #1
Fried has a thin build the accumulation of IPs after year 3 may cause problems sooner than later. If he could use his lower body more it would put less stress on his arm
pepenas34
Snell is at 151MM lux tax for 5 years
YankeesBleacherCreature
Snell and his deferrals.
SupremeZeus
8 years is obviously absurd but that’s the price of poker. I’m guessing Fried will be healthy and pitch at most 6 of those 8 years. The Yankees are well aware of the risks and can easily eat 25% of the k w/o much impact.
mab51357
That’s a lot of years for a pitcher. Hope it works out for them. Yanks had the money after losing out on Soto. I think they’re going to be fine without Soto. And although I’m not a big fan of the Yankees I do agree with Cashman saying they are proud of the offer. Maybe they feel a little like the Giants after the Judge negotiations. Great offer but he was never coming to the Giants. Judge used them just like Soto used the Yankees. The offer by the Yankees was also massively more than what Judge signed for. Tough to congratulate them on losing the battle, but I applaud their effort.
JackStrawb
Why do people keep thinking years matter?
Would you be happier or no, if it was 7/218m instead of 8/218m?
southi
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees look at the contract as 6 years for 218 million and the last two years at $0 BUT having the total contract spread across those extra two seasons is beneficial against the competitive balance tax numbers.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
This is 100% how Cashman thinks of these extra long contracts. He’s been doing this for a few years now.
RickEO
Ridiculous. Big no Ty
Landini
Wonder what this does to Skubals earning potential.
I Want to Believe
Yep I’m wondering if Skubal is going to want 300 million. He’s a Boras guy and a stud. And I doubt Detroit keeps him if he wants 2/3 of that.
ReyDay
Fried just got 218MM Skubal is def getting more than that. Detroit would be crazy not to sign him if he’s only asking for 200MM
Bucsfan4ever
39, he turns 31 in January
BaseballClassic1985
He’ll be 38 when the contract ends in October of 2032
machurucuto
Good move
Judd_Skinner
Braves fan here. Love Fried. Awful contract. His arm is almost shot.
Cooperdooper7
Exactly
DarrenDreifortsContract
Losing Soto put them in full panic mode.
mab51357
It’s called pivoting quickly to plan B. I’m sure Max is happy the Yanks lost out on Soto. As much as I dislike the Yankees they pivoted quickly (not panic mode) and are moving on. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Led Hoyer
Full panic mode. They had to sign a big name to appease the fan base. Eovaldi on a short term deal probably smarter and just as good. Or trade for Crochet.
Bucsfan4ever
Good luck and good health Max!! I hope you win every game that you pitch, except against the Pirates and Braves. In those games I hope you get bombed.
yanks_aaronx3
This is the Yankees taking control of the pitching market
Burnes is what’s left of the high end FA starting pitchers. Now Bos tor NYM Balt now how to fight for his services. Driving g up the prices
Now the yanks can go out and shop 2 of their starters for position players and prospects, and bullpen arms
Heck Rodon may be on the trading block.
Rodon Nestor stroman
Gil has the most value and also Clark Schmidt
Yankees can decide who they will move to get players they want
Cash-Man-NY
Best part of this deal is he isn’t represented by Boras..
YaGottaBelieveAgain
BOS isn’t just left to choose between the remaining FA Starters.
There’s Crochet, Montgomery (or another AZ pitcher), maybe Cease, Bassitt, Sonny Gray, F. Valdez, one of the PIT, MIA or SEA starters and excess LAD pitchers and more
El Kabong
Excellent point on the Dodgers’ excess pitchers. They have guys who don’t fit in their rotation but would be cost-effective starters for other teams.
JackStrawb
Sorry, but the Mets are not in on Burnes. They’ll add Crochet and another oddball, averagey SP on a short deal.
Baytown
Sick
mab51357
Legitimate question. How much are the Yanks paying Gerrit Cole?
Astros_fan_in_Aus
I think the Yankees are panicking.
JVizzle
Everyone always talks about how lower income teams struggle competing with higher income teams BUT there’s always more flexibility there than what is used as owners want to pad pockets.
Not a Reds fan BUT they brought in an estimated $350M+ in 2024 with a payroll of around a million. No – they can’t always do what the Yankees and Dodgers do but they sure as heck could spend enough to be competitive each year.
forbes.com/teams/cincinnati-reds/#:~:text=%24315M,….
It’s about building some homegrown talent and supplementing when the time is right. Unfortunately many teams never let it get to “the time is right”.
StudWinfield
Buh bye Cortes
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Cortes is already in witness protection….
numberoneslayerfan
we are so back
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Dude’s gunna be pushing 40 at the end if that contract….
holecamels35
8 year deal for a pitcher is brain dead work.
Acoss1331
Oof, the AAV is just about right, but 8 years is too much. He’s really a 6-year deal kind of guy. I get the feeling Yankees got into a bidding war and had to add two years to get it done.
Now it gets interesting because if the way many have speculated, Nestor or Gil get traded in some kind of package to solve their other needs.
JackStrawb
Don’t be so sure. 8 years gives them more years where he’s pitching if he runs into another TJ. Granted they would have much preferred a 10/218m deal, but the league wouldn’t have allowed it.
Cooperdooper7
Massive overpay
energel
Yay yankees get another stud
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Even IF NYY started with the Martian and Spencer Jones + 2 more players they don’t get Tucker
HOU doesn’t want Stroman or Cortes
Maybe Schmidt and Rice, HOU would probably be interested in Gil but he wouldn’t be the headliner. (second or third best player)
Only one year results and IP just getting stretched out, similar to Crochet history (talking about Gil)
I think Cashman contradicted himself when he said they weren’t going to spend like a drunken sailor Length of contract is concerning and no opts
Did Fried get a partial or Full No trade clause? Details still coming out
hankwilliamsfan1986
more proof baseball fixes it for ny as usual. tamper much
Dunno
And the rich get richer. Time for a salary cap and salary floor NOW!
wifflemeister
Good luck to you Max. You were a great Brave. It’s just business, after all. Carry on, young man.
ArianaGrandSlam
Someone’s going Cubs for Cody in return.
pt24601
That is such a ridiculous overpay. Desperation after losing Soto. Glad the Sox weren’t dumb enough to do it. I wouldn’t touch any of these FAs at these prices. Go with last year’s bunch, make a trade or two, hope for recoveries from Giolito and/or Whitlock. Bulk up the bullpen, starters don’t go past 5 these days anyway. Over a million per start for a 31 y/o guy with an injury history. FOR EIGHT YEARS. It’s just insanity.
Mynameisnoname
Best Run Prevention in the 2020’s (min 500 IP)
1. Fried 2.81
2. Burnes 2.88
3. Bieber 2.91
4. Wheeler 2.94
5. Scherzer 3.02
6. Urias 3.09
7. Cole 3.12
Ma4170
Guess the rumors about him wanting to be on the west coast weren’t so accurate
BKS1110
He’s 30 and has averaged less than 140 IP over the last five full seasons, and they gave him EIGHT YEARS? Woof.
sufferforsnakes
Another contract to choke on.
MM.MM
Ok, ok…now sign one of the Alonso/Walker/Goldy 1B picks..inquire about Teo and trade for a couple arms in the pen..
Sadface
Yanks probably couldn’t have sign Fried or any of the guys you mentioned if they had resigned Soto. I think it will work out better this way for them.
cencal
This is why I couldn’t be a GM. I’d have 5 years tops, club option for 6.
Too old. Too much injury history.
slowcurve
Max is all class. Good luck in the Bronx. Still hope the Braves and Sox take you deep.
BCleveland3381
Soto will be 29 when the Fried contract goes south.
Matt Nokes
Yankees fan here. I think it’s a bad move.. Pitching is so volatile, especially for pitchers over age 30. There are very few pitchers I’d feel decent making that kind of commitment and Fried ain’t one of them
Sadface
Braves fan and we loved Max but in recent years he has had injury problems and his lone post season start this year was awful. Yanks may get 3 or 4 good years out of the 8. Good luck in NY Max.
YankeesAreDodgersEast
I think a lot of people are thrown off by the 8 years, but the 8 years allows a very low AAV under 30mm. So you have to give something to get something. It’s essentially a de facto deferral.
YourDreamGM
Most usually are. They will continue to do so. I been telling them for years and haven’t made much of a dent.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Yeah this is the Yankees’ M.O. to stretch it by 2-4 seasons to lower the AAV.
bravesfan
I’m happy for max, he deserves a crazy pay day for what he has done in the past… but… this deal is crazy going forward. He’s been dealing with concerning elbow things and having a bit of a hard time staying on the field in recent years. I just don’t see this deal being a good investment. I deal under 150 mil, yes, good risk worth taking. Deal around 175 I’d say is risky but I’d understand… but over 200 is nuts
YourDreamGM
218m NY $ is 175m Atlanta $
MootScorgoon
Great pitcher, glad he got the bag. I am not sure how well this contract will age though.
YourDreamGM
No one is but odds are good it will be fine.
Frankie Bani
Signed to pitch to Soto only
Sadface
The AAV is a little high but not that bad. I am surprised that he didn’t sign with the Dodgers or Padres though. Writing was on the wall with the Braves, if they really wanted to keep him they would have worked something out years ago. They must not be confident that he can stay healthy or actually contribute in the post season. Anyway good luck in NY Max we’ll always appreciate your part in the 2021 championship.
YourDreamGM
Padres broke or they would have been all over him in 2022 2023
Begamin
AAV is a little low but the years are high
unglar
We had a long list of needs with it without Soto. I’m heartbroken he went to the Mets (mostly that he’s gone I don’t really care he’s a met) but if this is the first of an aggressive offseason than I love it, if it’s the only major move and made as A reaction to Soto leaving it’s bad. Love the pitcher, afraid of the deal.
But the remaining 5 point missed soto plan has to be something like Maybe:
1B Yandy Diaz from TB or Bellinger or both
3B Bergman or maybe Bohm? Or something clever and out of the box like figuring out a trade for Corey Seager? Arenado would be meh. MacMahon? Someone with a low K rate.
OF Bellinger, Tucker, Robert or Hernandez or something out of the box, I’d be ok with just a RH defensive whiz to platoon with Grisham
RP: Helsey from St Louis to move Weaver into multi inning firefighter
RP: a cashman special that Matt blake transforms.
We have the ability to trade Gil or Cortes that might be attractive to teams looking for cheap pitching. I’d move Gil this off-season, I don’t trust him long term, hope I’m wrong.
YankeesBleacherCreature
The Yankees wouldn’t have made it to the WS without Gil as he filled in admirably for Cole’s first half. Trade Stroman or Nestor.
unglar
Absolutely true. Id much rather trade Stroman and Nestor is a free agent so though I enjoy him, it might make sense to get a longer term piece or something that fits better.
I think Gil is probably not as good as that first run. Thats his cieling. I think he probably could be a solid #3 or 4 if he’s more in line with what he did the rest of the year. I think his value is at its highest (and though it would suck to lose him) and might result in the ability to get a bat and with Fried in tow, I’d be fine reallocating the value they have in Gil into someone who can has a OBP over 330 and fills in at one of the holes.
tikiagedola
Source: Tigers have offered a 400+ million dollar contract to Skubal with an opt out after 4 years.
dasit
a lot of people are freaking out about the back end of the deal. in your personal life do you constantly worry about things that might happen in 5 years? i like when my team gets better. 2025 could be rough and the margin for error just got a little wider
Baseball_dude
Every big market team (let’s over pay every decent/good player until they’re almost 40 years old, hope to make the playoffs once with them, and most likely ever win a WS)
YourDreamGM
Any market could have done this. Not a overpay.
GoGreen
Evil empire is coming back, NY is still a powerhouse.
chemfinancing
K get ready if he makes it through the year I will be shocked
YankeesBleacherCreature
I feel a tad bit better about losing Soto now. The Yankees have a surplus of starting pitchers even before Fried’s signing.
I think that they can unload Stroman and his $18M by eating a little bit of money if the Sevy and Montas signings are any indications of the current market.
YourDreamGM
Should be thrilled about losing Soto. That would have been awful contract for Yankees.
whyhayzee
The Braves know Fried better than any other organization. There’s a reason they let him go.
unglar
That reason is a lack of payroll space, they tied themselves down to a core and cant add like the yankees or mets who can afford to carry several bad contracts down the line. I think the Yankees might be paying Aaron Hicks for this coming year, they don’t care, they want to win.
YourDreamGM
Yeah it’s their broke! Up against the cap and need multiple positions filled. And they prefer team friendly extensions vs free agents.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@whyhayzee
Personally I think the Braves let him go because they are trying to get back under the soft cap and thus reset.
YourDreamGM
A+ I think it’s a bargain. I like it and O hate mega contracts if 200m is still mega. I think for 30 year old pitchers it is. Eovaldi got similar $ to pitch to 38. This guy is better. In a few years it will be a bargain. In 6 7 years a absolute steal.
YankeesBleacherCreature
B+. Two years too long but lower AAV I guess.
YourDreamGM
More years the better. Id give him 10 or 12. Just want value. Don’t care about years.
YourDreamGM
This is a big one for me. After reading the comments I am the biggest fan of this contract. Most people hate it. Even the biggest Yankees fans hate the years. Will this be my first big miss? It has to happen sometime right? Or did I absolutely nail it like the Chris Sale trade? We will see. It all comes down tp health and I obviously didn’t see the medicals. Baring major injury I don’t see how this contract doesn’t work out. I don’t want to imagine what salaries will look like 5 8 years from now. This could be a bargain.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Given the salaries this offseason, the AAV isn’t bad. Rodon is making about the same as Fried and it appears Rodon has a market rate deal now.
Dumpster Divin Theo
In 80 years it’s the greatest thing since Edison developed the cotton gin
Datashark
Yankees rotation looks pretty good here with Fried and all in their 30s, but their defense….they have to get some fundamentals going there
Rsox
Yankees with a couple of $100 million to burn i guess (though doesn’t help the OF situation). I’m guessing unless the Yankees plan on deploying a 7 man rotation that they plan on shopping/trading Cortes and Stroman
larkraxm
The funny thing is that this deal with Fried didn’t happen overnight. Yankees were going to sign Fried and Soto. The Yankees paid Soto and Rizzo $50 million last season. Yeah, they have some money to spend still, without even approaching last year’s payroll.
SadMsFan
Wow!!!!
Mikenmn
This is the Yankees Mike Mussina signing, Expensive quality, Soto got two more years and $165M more than predicted. Plus incentive payments and an opt-out. Snell got the predicted 5 years, $22M more, Adams one more year, $22M more, Severino, same three years, $16M more. Eovaldi an extra year, and $29M, There’s going to be more and bigger, until teams have spent themselves out.
Baseballisthebest
Burnes will now sign for 8/288 with the Mets and the Red Sox will get locked out of the top free agents again.
But they were interested and among the top bidders.
jvent
No thanks to Burnes, especially at that price, I’ll take Sasaki and trade for Crochet instead.
Also, now since the Yanks have 7 SP’s and need offense, (how about a Yankee-Mets trade) either Clarke or Gil for McNeil (2b) and Marte (RF) with Judge staying in CF and Dominguez in LF ?
Baseballisthebest
When Sasaki signs with the Padres or Dodgers in January and the top pitchers are all gone then what?
YanksPhan42
Nobody wants Marte’s contract and you’re on crack if you think you’d get Gil for McNeil.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Can’t see Cohen also giving Burnes what he wants after Soto.
Baseballisthebest
No one saw him giving that to Soto. Cohen wants all the best toys. Burnes is the best toy after Soto.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I meant “not giving…”. My bad.
billysbballz
They are one starter short.
Roki or Walker Buehler.
Trade Stroman and move Nestor to the Pen.
That’s an awesome rotation. Pitching wins.
Sign Tanner Scott. Resign Losiaga and Kahnle for the bullpen. Trade Stroman and a prospect for Bellinger to play CF. Sign Christian Walker to play first. Dominguez if ready brings more athleticism and Spencer Jones when he’s ready. Need to get more athletic on bases and more contact oriented and less power hungry. Not winning the Soto bidding was possibly the best thing to happen for the Yankees. They do not need another one dimensional DH signed for 15 years.
Begamin
Maybe the only thing that happens here is signing Walker. But yeah dude this was totally worth not retaining modern day Ted Williams lol
Dumpster Divin Theo
Boom goth the dynamite – good move
Moneyballer
Poor yanks. Fried is gonna get SHELLED in the AL East. His “dominance” had a lot to do with the league and teams he pitched against. Yanks will regret this contract.
YourDreamGM
Era vs
Rays 0.66
Jays 0.95
Yankees 2
Sox 3
Os 4
#AL Least
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Fried was voted most likely to be a serial killer by fellow players.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Please tell me this is real.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Quick note/Question: Anybody catch Talkin’ Yanks with Jomboy and Jake’s reaction to the Fried signing? Talk about guys trying their hardest to avoid sounding annoyed and disappointed. They’re usually truly enthusiastic and excited and can’t hide it worth a lick, but they were clearly annoyed and disappointed by the length of the deal and kept reiterating:
Now that we’ve signed this guy, we can actually start our real off season moves…
So yeah…. there is that take on this deal.
Fat Lever
Do you do your own thinking or let Jomboy and Jake do it for you?
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Jomboy tells Jake how to guide BBD’s hands as he aims for me whenever I need to drain.
In all seriousness- I barely watch them but sometimes I am curious about their reactions because they’re Yankee affiliates now so they can’t actually be critical of the team, but at the same time they don’t hide their true feelings very well, so it’s fascinating to watch them be clearly annoyed or disappointed but try to find the upside in stuff they clearly aren’t excited by, because of their relatively new affiliate status.
Mikel Grady
Will be 31 when season starts, 39 when contract expires. Yikes!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Fried, Christian Walker and Cody Bellinger and no one misses Soto.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Max who???
cooperhill
OLD NEWS!
Begamin
ok relax
whyhayzee
Ed Whitson. Carl Pavano. AJ Burnett. Max Fried.
YanksPhan42
Cashman needs to trade for bats. Not interested in the 34 year old Walker on a multi-year deal. No thank you on 7-8 years of Bregman. Santander is terrible at D, needs to play RF and strikes out a ton.
My next signing would be Corbin Burnes or Walker Buehler. The use Gil and Schmidt to fetch guys like Bellinger, Donovan, Hoerner, Yandy or Naylor.
Van Lingle Mungo
Giving up Gil or Schmidt for Bellinger would be fucing atrocious.
YanksPhan42
I agree. Didn’t say to do that. I would use one them to try and grab Naylor, Donovan or Hoerner though.
Bellinger should be had for a guy like Warren.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Gil and Schmidt are exactly the low-cost players that the Yankees should retain when Hal is crying about an unsustainable high-payroll. They don’t need to sign another starting pitcher unless it’s Sasaki. They need to package Stroman while eating some salary and a prospect or two to fill their positional needs.
just_thinkin
Genuine question: why wouldn’t Fried want any opt-outs?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Because that contract would lower his total guarantee and years.
Coal tender
As the rich get richer, why doesn’t MLB separate the “Haves & Have Nots” into their own divisions? Boston, both NY teams, LA Dodgers, Chicago Cubs, Atlanta, Philadelphia, and San Francisco would do fine competing evenly with one another. The rest will do equally as well competing for their divisions amongst their budgeted peer group.
yanks2323
Maybe have a G league type of model?
larkraxm
2024 Playoff teams AL- Detroit, Kansas City, Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston, NYY. NL- Milwaukee, San Diego, NY Mets, Atlanta, Philadelphia, LA Dodgers. I’m so tired of hearing how these poor billionaires can’t compete. Sell your team if it is such a hardship. There is revenue sharing, national revenues, and every opportunity to put together a plan to compete with the Milwaukee Brewers or the Tampa Rays if they want to. Most of these owners just try nothing and have run out of ideas. They pocket their revenue sharing and then complain about market size. It is really old.
rudymay45
That Strohman signing was one of the stupidest moves I’ve ever seen them make in my 45 years as a Yankees fan. Right up there with Donaldson. They may never find some team desperate enough to take that contract off their hands, even if Cashman absorbs half of the salary.
Yanks4life22
I’m just hoping he makes it a year or 2 before he opts for TJS. Could easily see it happening this spring training. He’s got the guaranteed money now he doesn’t have to fight through injuries to get paid. Hopefully he’s a gamer and wants to compete regardless if he’s got the money or not.
Smacky
The Union hasn’t stomped the Confederacy like this since the Battle of Brian McCann.