As the Tigers look to build on the scorching finish to the season that delivered them a trip to the ALDS in 2024, Cody Stavenhagen of The Athletic reported yesterday that the club is expected to target “at least” one starting pitcher this winter. With that being said, Stavenhagen cautions that the club is hoping to stick with short-term additions who can be had on one- or two-year contracts. Stavenhagen also suggests that the club could be hesitant to land a pitcher who received a Qualifying Offer this winter due to the associated loss of draft capital.
That doesn’t mean the club is completely unwilling to explore higher-tier options, however, as The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal and Will Sammon reported this afternoon that the club has at least “some interest” in a reunion with right-hander Jack Flaherty. The early movement on the free agent market has generally been focused on hurlers who aren’t attached to draft pick compensation, ranging from lefty Blake Snell’s massive five-year deal with the Dodgers to smaller moves like the Angels’ signing of right-hander Kyle Hendricks on a one-year pact. Flaherty, who signed with the Tigers last winter and had a resurgent half-season with Detroit before being traded to L.A. over the summer, is the best pitcher remaining on the market who is unattached to draft pick compensation.
While pairing Flaherty with ace lefty Tarik Skubal at the top of Detroit’s rotation is surely a tantalizing idea to fans and would help fortify the Tigers after their surprise return to contention this fall, it’s also possible that they’ll simply look to sign “the next” Flaherty instead of pursuing a reunion; while Rosenthal suggests Flaherty figures to land a deal in the four-to-six year range, Stavenhagen notes that the club hopes to find a “high-upside” pitcher on the market who they believe they can help maximize as they did with Flaherty this past year rather than pay a premium for more established talent. Right-handers Walker Buehler and Michael Soroka as well as southpaw Andrew Heaney could be among the pitchers of that sort on Detroit’s radar this winter.
Stavenhagen goes as far as to note that Buehler could be the club’s “white whale” this winter, but adds that there’s questions about whether or not he’ll need to accept the sort of short-term deal the Tigers are looking to make this winter. That’s a valid concern, as Buehler has received plenty of interest from all corners of the league with the A’s, Yankees, Cubs, Braves, and Mets among the teams with reported interest in the righty’s services. MLBTR ranked Buehler 37th on our annual Top 50 MLB Free Agents list last month while predicting a one-year, $15MM pact for the righty. That’s surely a price tag the Tigers would be eager to have him at, but given the widespread interest he’s drawn to this point and the hot market for starting pitching that has seen multiple players exceed expectations it wouldn’t be a shock to see Buehler land a multi-year deal even after posting a subpar 5.38 ERA in 16 regular season starts for the Dodgers this year. If Buehler’s market does end up running that hot, it could be hard to justify targeting him rather than spending a bit more to secure a more reliable asset like Flaherty.
If Buehler proves to be out of Detroit’s price range this winter, Soroka and Heaney represent two opposite sides of the spectrum for free agent starters. Soroka, 27, turned in a dominant rookie season with the Braves back in 2019 en route to an All Star appearance, a second-place finish in NL Rookie of the Year voting and a sixth-place finish for the NL Cy Young award. Since then, however, he’s struggled to stay on the field with just 46 innings of work combined between the 2020-23 seasons at the big league level. He was shipped from the Braves to the White Sox last winter and managed 79 2/3 innings of work last year while swinging between the rotation and bullpen.
His results were significantly better as a reliever in Chicago but that hasn’t stopped most interested teams from eyeing him as a rotation option this winter. If Soroka can build on the 2.75 ERA and 39% strikeout rate he posted after being bumped from the White Sox rotation back in May, he would be a strong addition to a Tigers pitching staff that has plenty of depth options but little certainty behind Skubal and Reese Olson. Casey Mize, Keider Montero, Jackson Jobe, Matt Manning, and Kenta Maeda are among the hurlers who could be in the mix for starts with the club next year but none have staked a firm claim to a rotation spot, leaving plenty of opportunity for an unproven upside-arm like Soroka to break into the rotation.
Heaney, by contrast, is a fairly well-established veteran arm at this point. The 33-year-old has been a more or less league average starter for the majority of his career at this point, with a 4.45 ERA (96 ERA+) and 4.28 FIP in 851 2/3 innings of work for the Angels, Yankees, Dodgers, and Rangers since the start of the 2018 season. While Heaney flashed some further upside in 2022 when he pitched to a 3.10 ERA (130 ERA+) and 3.75 FIP in 16 appearances (14 starts) for the Dodgers, his subsequent two years with Texas have seen him revert to his solid but unspectacular work as a back-end starter: 307 1/3 innings of work across 66 outings (59 starts) during which he posted a 4.22 ERA (98 ERA+) and 4.34 FIP. While Soroka would be a high-risk, high-reward addition for Detroit, signing Heaney would offer a more stable solution for the club’s rotation who could reliably lessen the workload expected from the club’s other rotation options.
While Stavenhagen only name-checked Buehler, Soroka, and Heaney as potential targets for the Tigers, there are plenty of other arms who could be had on short-term deals this winter. Plenty of fans and media members have speculated on the possibility that the club could look to reunite with either Justin Verlander or Max Scherzer in free agency this year. The two future Hall of Famers established themselves as among the game’s best pitchers in Detroit during the club’s last competitive window, and betting on one or the other to have something left in the tank in the twilight of their careers could be exactly the sort of short-term, high-upside gamble that Stavenhagen suggests president of baseball operations Scott Harris and his front office are searching for. Alex Cobb, Jose Quintana, and Kyle Gibson are among the other veteran starting pitching options expected to sign shorter-term deals this winter who could be plausible fits for the Tigers.
This one belongs to the Reds
Better the devil you know.
Acoss1331
Tigers should be shopping for pitching, especially after making the playoffs this past season.
cooperhill
They need hitting more than anything else. Worst hitting team to ever make the post-season.
tigers182
The Tigers are loaded with hitting in the minors, and shallow on pitching.
BadMojo
Typical Tiger fan reaction. Which player in the minor leagues is ready to contribute to the Tigers this year?
tigers182
I was answering why the team is focused on pitching over hitting. Your post makes no sense.
Canuckleball
His post makes perfect sense. The Tigers are a playoff team now. Their offense was a clear weakness. Any guys in the minors, no matter how talented they may be, can’t be counted on to produce well at the major league level right out of the gate.
The Tigers should be looking to pick up several bats that can upgrade their offense, whether through trade or free agency.
Motor City Beach Bum
There should be internal improvements from young players who were on the roster last year like Meadows, Keith, Sweeney, Dingler, Malloy,Carp and maybe Tork and Jung. They do need to supplement that group though…1b or 3B makes sense.
LouWhitakerHOF
We only had 2 starters and the rest were bullpen games for quite a bit of the second half. You can never have too much pitching. Plus several of our hitters were injured and other bats had career low years. I would love to see Flaherty return to the Tigers.
tigers182
The pitching staff consists 2 starting pitchers and bunch of solid relievers. If you believe they don’t need pitching, you don’t know baseball.
tigers182
The post makes no sense because no one anywhere said they don’t hitting. Please read before commenting.
Rickover50
Jung , Sweeney, and the other rookies who came up late
Motor City Beach Bum
To be fair there were two starters at the end of the year due to injury. Going into they have Skubal, Olson, Mize and some combo of Jobe, Montero, Hurter and Madden. They have a decent rotation now but need more arms as you say and a number 2 starter would be great to fill it out in irder to have a great rotation.
tigers182
I love that devil, but I don’t trust his arm on a LT deal
cooperhill
Just don’t look at his post-season stats!
KhaluChris
Should have started by stealing Bieber….
For Love of the Game
Not with the player option for the second year.
KhaluChris
Give me a break
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Would love to see verlander or even scherzer back as a tiger
Flaherty would be a nice signing for the fan base
differentbears
Get the whole band back together.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
To sign either one is a bad idea imo they have little left in their tanks and at that age even small nagging injuries limit their availability
dkhits20
Yeah, as much as I love both JV and Max, a Tiger fan’s desire to sign either of them is strictly based on emotion at this point and not logic.
metsin4
So he can traded at the trade deadline again. Why would he do that?
Motor City Beach Bum
They just made the playoffs, won a playoff round and took things to a 5th game in the ALDS. Why do you assume he would be trade fodder?
metsin4
Because they just did trade him at the deadline.. They obviously didn’t have confidence by management last year. Why would this year be any diffrent?
Motor City Beach Bum
They were under .500 and went on a huge run the last 40 games to make the playoffs. It had nothing to do with not having confidence in him.
SuperSloth
He was traded to a team that won the World Series. Pretty sure he’d take that again. It’s a great spot to sign for many pitchers. If you can’t get the contract you like with a contender during the offseason, sign with a team you think will be competitive but not realistically have a shot at the playoffs, pitch decently, and get traded to a team that will make the playoffs.
metsin4
Players are looking to move their families multiple times a season just for the fun of it.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
The Tigers should be taking a more balanced approach to payroll. It’s a really bad time for +pitchers to be asking for so much money. Whatever they do affects Skubal.
How many guys on the roster and what is your actual budget?
wvsteve
Jacks getting 100 million for sure
Hard to walk with four balls
No thanks… the Tigers do not need Verlander or Scherzer. That ship sailed.
rct
If you could have either of them at 1/$10 million, would you do it? I’d probably go a little higher for Verlander or tack on another year.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
No, you don’t do it! Those two dinosaurs have nothing left !
Hard to walk with four balls
Even at $10 million that would represent 10% of the Tiger’s payroll for an old goat.
it’s just not worth going backwards.
metsin4
Well sometimes ships have to come back to port.
rct
MLBTR projected a 5/$115 million deal for Flaherty and I was extremely skeptical of it. But after seeing some of the pitching deals so far this offseason, I’m ready to possibly eat crow and apologize to Tim Dierkes and crew. I still don’t think he’ll get that much but we’ll see.
metsin4
He will get a higher aav.
dkhits20
4 yrs/ $110M
YaGottaBelieveAgain
He’s had kind of revival in his results but there were reasons StL let him go. To me I’d only consider a 3 year deal with incentives.
Dtownwarrior78
Verlander or Scherzer would be great “feel good” stories but not at all what is needed in reality. I’d love to get Flaherty back but he’ll be priced out if Illitch’s comfort quickly. Focus on a power RH bat and a few pitchers and keep letting the young prospects play. And then concentrate on getting Skubal resigned!
Luke Strong
Tigers aren’t ready to compete in 2025. This team was left for dead after they dumped Flaherty, Canha, Chafin & Kelly.. Even after the fluke wildcard run this season, that was unsustainable. The Baez contract is an absolute killer and they’re ultimately going to have to buy him out to get rid of him, but that doesn’t mean the contract won’t linger like a ghost from Christmas past for the next 3 years. They’re still dealing with a bunch of young players who need more MLB experience to develop, see what they’ve got. They’re still stuck with the Tork conundrum, they need to know for sure whether he’s a guy who can ever hit 30 homers again or a one-season wonder before they just offload him for next to nothing. And they’re on the hook for another season of Maeda, whose tank seems to be running on empty. And they’re going to have to pony up some big bucks if they want to keep Skubal past 2025. They’ll sign a cheap SP to chew up innings, but the Tigers plans to compete don’t start until the Max Clark era begins. Al Avila left this team in shambles and Harris has had no choice but to clean up his mess.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
It wasn’t a fluke. Check out how the schedule .
Tell Flaherty you are not ready to sign a LT contract but you will be next year. You would like to trade him again this year. Say that to a couple of guys.
Is that collusion?
Sign both Scherzer and Verlander to minor league deals, bring them up after making the trades.
What PR.
Or just honest dialogue?
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Do I need to say it? Hire the Superfife.
Luke Strong
Not a fluke? They went 31-13 over the last 44 games. In many of them, they snuck out close wins with timely hits from their mostly anemic offense and got incredible relief pitching from a group of largely unknown players. It was a once in a lifetime type of fluke.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@Luke
Detroit have a very good manager in AJ Hinch, who has a lot of experience in helping drag a team into relevance. If the 2024 Tigers and the 2015 Astros don’t seem similar?
Landini
Another great job by Fetter, right?
Samuel
Luke;
How many weeks have you been following Major League Baseball?
Luke Strong
Nothing compared to the lifelong bully you’ve been… check yourself.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Did the real Tigers fans perceive the Baez signing as bad news from the get-go, or were people optimistic yet that Baez was still good?
Luke Strong
I don’t think anyone in baseball thought he would go so bad so quickly. His decline was epic, and when they signed him, he was coming off a productive season. I didn’t think he was the right choice at the time, I thought Story would have been a better option and for the money, but, things would have been equally disastrous with him.
Motor City Beach Bum
I agree with Luke’s take. I always liked Baez when he was with the Cubs but things went sideways when he got to Detroit. I did NOT want them to keep after Correa after he turned down the big contract they offered (10 years, $285 million?)…never liked his attitude. Maybe Baez can contribute more this year in a strict platoon with Sweeney but I’ll believe it when I see it.
GarryHarris
I didn’t predict Javier Baez would decline so completely so fast but I always said the Tigers were better off with Zack Short instead of signing Baez. I based that off of Baez’s immature antics and his influence on a young team.
The Tigers finally didn’t lose 95 games in 2021 so they excitedly signed Eduardo Rodriguez and Baez. They didn’t have a base yet, lost 95 plus games and couldn’t rid themselves of their offseason acquisitions.
The patchwork team from last season is not even a good team yet. They just don’t have a strong enough base yet and shouldn’t target long term veterans. For every free agent that works out long enough to be traded away, they get stuck having to play detrimental types like Rodriguez, Baez, Jordan Zimmermann and Kenta Maeda because they’re being paid too much to not play.
Motor City Beach Bum
I’d rather see a 3-4 year Walker type signing (if they are moving on from Tork) than a 6-7 year Bregman type signing. A Walker signing fills the gap until someone like Briceno arrives. A Bregman signing potentially blocks a bunch of young players currently at SS, 2B or 3B who may end up at 3B between now and the end of that contract. I like Bregman but that contract will not age well. It sounds like Harris may be exploring the trade market as well which might be a better option. No more Baez, Zimmerman type signings that become an anchor in the team!
stymeedone
@Luke Strong
Funny how they made the playoffs with almost entirely players provided by Al Avila. Hardly a shambles. Bet it burns Harris’ butt that he has to work with Avila’s core.
Motor City Beach Bum
What do you base that on? He seems pretty content to keep good players there and just add to them. Only an idiot would strip things down to the studs and start all over when there was a solid base to start from. Was he supposed to just release Skubal, Greene, Carp et al?
Motor City Beach Bum
Flaherty fills the #2 and is a known quantity. If not him the maybe grab Buehler, Verlander or Eovaldi plus Soroka or Heaney who have been bullpen guys before as well.
GarryHarris
Pass on Michael Soroka unless it’s a MiLB deal. He didn’t pitch as bad as other pitchers for the ChiSox but he was hurt a bit.
Red Wings
Flaherty and Verlander would make a nice rotation, assuming there is some bounce back for Verlander. Olson and Montero are decent, expect Jobe to be with the Tigers.
Wire to wire 2024
Why wouldn’t they be looking at trade options for pitchers
Motor City Beach Bum
Castillo from Seattle would be a great fit.
Jm207* 2
Seattle needs offense, Tigers don’t have a match for them.
Motor City Beach Bum
Jace Jung is a young natural 2B with power.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Colt Keith and Jung for a Mariners pitcher?
Motor City Beach Bum
Jung and Lee maybe. I highly doubt the Tigers would trade those two unless it was for Kirby or Gilbert and I can’t see the Mariners doing that.
Jubilation
Here is the thing. Harris said they want hitters that can dominate (is control) the strike zone. They could upgrade at SS, 3b or OF corner spot.
It sounds like Baez is going to get one last chance. Sweeney deserves a longer look but he isn’t an every day guy yet.
Jung and Vierling could manage 3b. Bregman going to want 6 years and I can’t see the Tigers doing that. Not much else out there at 3b that is a clear upgrade.
It is a shame Kim got hurt because on paper he is a perfect option to hedge at SS and 3b. That still might be the guy.
Motor City Beach Bum
I hope they go get Kim anyway, trade Tork and bring in Walker or Diaz for 1B.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Ryan McMahon 3B for the Rockies might be available. I’ve had my eye on him for the Mariners forever but Rockies never trade hardly ever.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
No.
Why trade Torque?
You should sign him to 5x$5/M.
Sign him on a down year.
El Kabong
As a Dodger fan, I was happy with the Flaherty trade and appreciated his contribution. But after watching his post-trade starts, I didn’t want him back on a multi-year deal. Even a short-term deal would make me nervous. As good as he was in 2024, I wouldn’t trust him to do it again.
El Kabong
I’m all for bringing back Buehler, who, in my view, is a Dodgers legacy player. As expensive as the rotation is, the Dodgers’ starters aren’t exactly durable. If a six-man rotation makes sense for any team, it’s them. Ohtani, Yamamoto, Glasnow, Snell, Kershaw, and Buehler (once all are healthy). It is an expensive bunch, but they can afford it, and five of them are already on board. And we know they expect to make a deep run.
What should the Tigers do?
Motor City Beach Bum
They need a #2. Whether that is Flaherty who was comfortable in Detroit or another reclamation project like Buehler they need to add someone. Some articles mention Burnes and Fried bit I can’t see it. Luis Castillo would be a great fit if they look at the trade route.
Motor City Beach Bum
Luis Castillo makes sense to me and they could afford Buehler and Flaherty. I hope they steer clear of the others.
gotigers68
Not sign Alex Cobb….
gotigers68
The Tigers will wait around, and pick from the scraps left behind….
Motor City Beach Bum
Past “scraps” have included Holton and Flaherty and that worked out well.
gotigers68
Alex Cobb
Motor City Beach Bum
Cross your fingers that Fetter turns him into another Lorenzen or Flaherty.
gotigers68
Why can’t we sign someone that I don’t have to cross my fingers for ?