The thinking that Teoscar Hernandez would sign early in the offseason or in the immediate aftermath of Juan Soto’s decision has not played out as such. The 32-year-old slugger remains unsigned, reportedly juggling interest from at least the Dodgers, Blue Jays, Red Sox and Yankees to this point in the winter. Hernandez and the incumbent Dodgers have been unable to bridge a gap in Hernandez’s asking price and the team’s offer. Mark Feinsand of MLB.com adds further context, reporting that Hernandez is seeking a three-year deal that’ll guarantee him $22-24MM annually.
A three-year deal in $66-72MM range would generally dovetail with expectations. Hernandez’s agent, Rafa Nieves, already stated earlier in the offseason that Hernandez had been seeking three years last offseason when they pivoted and took a one-year deal in Los Angeles. A three-year deal on the heels of the slugger’s rebound campaign in L.A. seemed (and still seems) reasonable, even though he’s now headed into his age-32 season after rejecting a qualifying offer (and thus attaching himself to draft pick compensation). That $22-24MM range would align with last year’s $23MM salary (though some of that was deferred, dinging the net present value a bit).
With Soto off the board, Hernandez and fellow slugger Anthony Santander are the top corner outfield bats on the free agent market. Santander is two years younger but is also reportedly seeking a five-year deal after swatting 44 homers for the Orioles in 2024. Both players rejected QOs. Hernandez is the more affordable of the two but is also older and more strikeout-prone. The presence of Cody Bellinger on the trade market and the recent emergence of the now-traded Kyle Tucker might’ve combined to slow things down for Hernandez’s market, speculatively speaking.
Hernandez turned in a .272/.339/.501 slash with a career-high 33 home runs last season before going on to hit .250/.352/.417 in postseason play. His 28.8% strikeout rate was an improvement over his 31.1% mark from 2023 but still sat about six percentage points higher than league average. His 8.1% walk rate was the second-best of his career but fell right in line with the 8.2% league average. At this point, teams can expect plus power, a below-average walk rate and more strikeouts than they’d prefer from Hernandez. He drew well below-average marks for his defense, but Hernandez has plus speed and above-average arm strength, per Statcast, so a team might think there’s enough raw talent to coax some better performance out of him.
The defensive concerns do make a multi-year reunion with the Dodgers a potentially problematic pairing, however. Hernandez has said he hopes to return — and the Dodgers are clearly open to a reunion. Beating the rest of the market when Hernandez is already 32 and there’s no DH opportunity thanks to the presence of Shohei Ohtani could make a long-term arrangement worrisome for Los Angeles in a way that’s not the case with other Hernandez suitors.
This will never happen, but I’d love to see the O’s re-sign Santander and trade a package centered around Kjerstad for pitching.
Henderson SS
Rutschman C
Santander RF
O’Neill DH
Westburg 3B
Cowser LF
Mountcastle 1B
Mullins CF
Holliday 2B
Why not keep the very talented young Kjerstad and just sign the pitching?
That’s certainly an option, too.
Or keep both and sign the pitching.
Kjerstad for any of the Dodgers MLB ready young starters
Kjersted for Cease…..
Because they refuse to spend any real money. They have no choice but to trade and acquire mid tier free agents.
He’s 26 this season. Play him or trade him
Kjerstad for Keller seems like a win win for both teams
He would be the only pitcher available worth trading Kierstad for.
Why would the Pirates trade their only proven vet starter that eats innings and mentors Jared Jones, Paul Skenes and Bubba Chandler?
Because they need offense. They have oviedo who is fine as an innings eater. Ashcraft will be in the rotation. Keller 29
Kjerstad has 147 MLB plate appearances. He could be just another over-hyped prospect.
Keller for Clase, Naylor and Delauter from Cleveland minimum. Kjerstad for Keller is way too low.
I would be ok with Naylor. Horitz can split DH with Cutch. Ideally Keller gives them 2 or cost controlled hitters. Do we know what type of extension Naylor wants
What is this website even offering anymore? Articles are pure conjecture and speculation and is now loaded with more pop up ads than a janky jack site.
The “latest” on Hernandez, and they present no actual information or update.
With no real news, i’d be interested to know how much the Dodgers deferred on Teo’s salary, and what the present value of his contract was in 2023
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Actually, this is one of the few information updates from MLBTR where there’s some insight. Until I read it here, I was not aware of the Dodgers holding firm at two years. Looks to me like they’re willing to go to about $55 million and two years with a third year team option and a buyout. Seems reasonable to me as a Dodger fan.
Guardians should go after him. They had a deep playoff run and made money. They also saved 97 million over 5years with gimmez trade. His agent is same agent for jose.
Its called mlb trade rumors and you can subscribe to remove ads.
It’s an aggregate news site, compiling multiple reliable rumors into one article. It makes it much easier to avoid the nonsense.
“Reliable rumors” is a new one lol makes absolutely no sense.
Rumors reported by reliable sources as opposed to a random guy on social media.
Shark:
It does actually, otherwise we’d all be speculating about flights to Toronto.
@iBleedBlue: How on Earth are you ignorant to the idea of using an ad blocker in the year 2024?
I’ve literally never seen a pop up ad while using MLBTR. Get it together, you whiner.
Brave browser. Boomer.
There is an ad at the top of the page featuring a beautiful and very busty woman holding a soccer ball. This I am fine with!
Literally just scrolled to top of page to verify
@!Bleed
The very nature of a site with the word “rumor” in it, is that partly, the content is going to be speculative or reporting possibilities and when facts behind apparent, then covering it.
You do always have the option of not visiting this site anymore. Ads pay the bills, like it or not. The inconvenience of ads can be avoided by paying for a subscription, plus you’ll get extra content, you know, like every other website out there. I’ve been reading these articles for over 15 years, and the only thing that has really changed in that regard is the recent addition of “obituaries” of old ball players, which I don’t think anyone other than the trolls mind. If this reply comes off as kind of a smug, yeah no one wants to hear you whine kinda tone, then mission accomplished.
They’re dependent on beat reporters and national guys for info. They don’t do their own reporting. It is what it is and always has been. Sometimes there’s just no information to report.
It’s all about mentioning the Yankees and Dodgers to keep the comments coming!!
iBleeedBlue
What is this website even offering anymore? Articles are pure conjecture and speculation
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That’s basically what rumors are.
But past that, everything in life is stuff that has happened, or stuff that hasn’t happened. Since we already know what happened, there isn’t a lot of point in you signing into MLB-R if you don’t want to hear rumors.
And past that, if you don’t like ads, the $2.50/month they charge is like returning 50 bottles a month for deposit. You aren’t entitled to free stuff no matter what your college professors taught you.
Well from a content perspective, I believe the term “rumors” in the name allows them quite a bit creative landscape.
Yeah this free website about baseball rumors providing us with free baseball rumors is the worst! Quit being so cheap and subscribe if you hate the occasional as so much. If anyone deserves the cash it’s these guys.
It offers you a place to chat and speculate with your fellow fans first and foremost.
Articles like this collect various mentions of the subject and collates into an article. You want more, click one of the links in the articles.
Otherwise it’s here so you engage. That engagement keeps the site going and makes it more valuable to sponsors. While there are plenty of ads, yes, it serves a purpose and since I like that purpose it’s fine. But like has been stated, pop up blockers are your friends.
it’s called mlbtradeRUMORS
It is, and always has been, an aggregator site for baseball news and transactions. I don’t know what you’re expecting.
The article covers his contract expectations and some of the potential factors that may be in play for his slower than expected market development. That’s more the a typical aggregator provides. If you want to know what the guy ate for breakfast, try the site formerly known as Twitter.
As for the ads, well it would be great if running a business had no costs but the choice nowadays for websites, especially small ones, is either paywall or intrusive ads, so I’m again confused around your expectations.
Calm down
@MLBTR can we please get a downvote button already??
I think the Dodgers are just playing on Teo’s desire to remain with them, they are probably figuring he will give a discount to stay. But make no mistake, he’s definitely asking for too much.
The Red Sox won’t sign him for 3 years to be a fulltime DH, not with them already trying to balance 3 DH’s in Casas, Devers and Yoshida.
Just because one team with too many bad defensive players won’t pay him doesn’t mean he’s asking too much.
entel – So far no team wants to give him what he’s asking. That’s because he’s asking for outfielder money even though he’s not that good an outfielder. I’m talking about the entire market, not just one or two teams.
Is he that bad defensively? I thought he was considered a decent fielder. If he is just a DH, I agree he would not be a priority as we have too many options for there.
Uncle – I’m probably the wrong person to ask, but I wouldn’t mind having Teo in LF.
However this quote from Steve is in the above article: ” He drew well below-average marks for his defense,”
So yeah, well below means he was pretty bad.
3 years at that AAV is an issue. High K rate guy with declining defense. Wish this off-season would move quicker I’m dying for the pieces to fall in line!
Crickets from ATL, which oddly makes me think something could happen there. Start him in RF until Acuña returns, then move him to LF. When Ozuna’s contract expires, Teo becomes a DH/4th OF.
They don’t have the money.
This has been one of the fastest moving off-seasons in a long time.
Seems like we’ve seen a lot more major signings this December than last year. Not many big names remain on the board.
As for Hernandez, he’ll get somewhere in the neighborhood of his ask. His K-rate has always been high, and that just isn’t a big factor for a power hitter in today’s analytics game. I don’t know that his defense is declining, it was just never great — at least not very pretty to look at.
Teo just doesn’t like to play the field. He shows his plus speed running the bases. But when it comes to chasing down a ball in the outfield, he’d rather jog….
Just in watching him play, I think he doesn’t get the good reads off the bat that the better outfielders do. This is what makes Mookie so good. It’s rare to see his legs take him to the wrong spot right off the bat.
Boston could hide Manny Ramirez in left field, we can hide Teoscar there. Given how desperately we need a big RH bat, I wouldn’t hesitate to call him up and offer 3/$75. Sounds like he signs on the spot if you do.
And in two years, fans will be wondering how much salary we’d have to eat to get rid of him.
And if I am spending $25M per, I’d want a good #2/weak #1 SP. We can trade guys like Abreu and/or Casas for RH hitters. We still need SPs and RPs
In two years he’d be going into the final year of his 3 year deal. If he is already that bad at that point (unlikely as he has not yet demonstrated any signs of starting to decline), then you go the Hanley Ramirez route and DFA him to make room for the desired replacement. The Red Sox have very little money on the books that far out, for how bad they need to add a RH power bat for 2025, they can certainly afford to bear the risk of him suddenly being useless in 2027. And if you sign a bat, then you can trade Abreu for more pitching since the teams who have arms to spare seem to mostly want position players in return.
$25 million per year doesn’t buy you a #2 or #1 anymore. Eovaldi just signed a 3/$75 at 35 years old and he’s more of a #3.
Hernandez fits in perfectly in Boston, but I think Boston is desperately trying to move Yoshida first so Hernandez can take most of his at bats as DH. He can play some left field vs. a tough left handed pitcher, but 75%+ of his at bats in Boston would most likely take place at DH.
I wonder if Boston eats some salary if they can convince Oak/Sac/LV to take on Yoshida. Nothing but a wild card needed in return. The A’s still need to spend another $20M+ to avoid a grievance so this could be a good fit for them. I don’t see Boston signing him unless they can move Yoshida first.
Yankees need to go get Bellinger. They desperately need another Lefty. I wouldn’t mind Verdugo coming back for the right price
@mlb
Push come to shove, could you tolerate Joc Oederson or Jesse Winkler in LF?
Definitely need a good lefty bat but I think its time to move on from Verdugo. At this point I’d rather see what Grisham could do if we somehow fail hard enough in acquiring a bat.
Yankees fans are passionate but frankly just dumb. Bellinger sucks as an asset. He’s a league average player making $26m a year for two (likely) more years. That costs Steinbrenner more like $45m a year with lux tax (could be higher). Yes you need a left handed power hitter, preferably who can play 1B. But no you don’t need or want Bellinger.
Which is why he is still a Cub as they don’t want to send money. You’re trading for his ’23 4.4 bWAR and him being still 29.
@Seam
Then who? 34 year old Walker? 38 year old a Santana. You have to pay the lux tax. with all of them. Belli is only 28 and there’s reason to think that moving to YS from Wrigley and their deep RF wall should improve. Factor in his versatility on defense and he’s prefect for the Yanks.
But no you don’t need or want Bellinger.
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But if the issue is money, how are you going to get a LH bat that plays CF and/or 1st without spending money?
Hell I’d rather live with Teoscar every day in left than Devers every day at third. I say sign him first and worry about Yoshida second, but if and when we are able to dump him I’d move Devers into that vacated DH spot in a heartbeat. Then try and sign Bregman or swing a trade for Arenado to play third.
I know I’m dreaming because that’s way too rich for Henry’s appetite, but it’s fun to think about while still theoretically possible.
I’d rather live with Teoscar every day in left than Devers every day at third.
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I think that’s a moot point unless they trade Duran, Rafaela or Abreu. Teo won’t start over any of those guys. Even if they trade Abreu, I don’t see Teo playing RF.
And even if he plays RF, it will only be until Anthony gets promoted.
I think Teo is almost a pure DH play.
Maybe, but I still think they’re likely to flip Abreu for pitching. He makes the most sense as a trade asset because he’s about to be made redundant by a higher ceiling prospect at the same position, has plenty of control left, and has already established that at worst he is a decent big leaguer, but coming off a nice rookie season could still improve plenty. That opens up a spot in the outfield at least until Anthony plays his way into the mix – maybe that’s in 2025, maybe it’s not until 2026. He is just 2020, so it’s not impossible to think they might slow-walk his promotion unless his play really forces the issue. And if the issue becomes all of a sudden having too many good bats, that’s a great problem to have in my opinion.
Dorothy – Moving Yoshida is the easiest path to fixing a ton of Red Sox issues. Teoscar can play the outfield, but will benefit from days off at DH. This would also free up ABs at DH to other players.
And they wouldn’t have to trade for him! It makes too much sense.
So they won’t be doing it.
Agreed, Dorothy, but I think it will be tough to move Yoshida, and there is the additional problem of Devers – who is at 3B for now but won’t stick there forever. I’m not sure Boston is in the position to be making a multi-year commitment to a DH.
What about Seattle? Couldn’t they use his bat. I was hoping he could somehow be worked into a trade with a West Coast team.
The Dodgers have the leverage of the QO, few budget concerns, and the stated desire of the player working in their favor. The only reason I can imagine for why they have seemingly not made Hernandez the most competitive offer so far is because they expect him to take a discount to stay with the team.
Probably trying to offer $70 million with $50M deferred hahaha
He also doesn’t fit their style of play. Dodgers like versatility and taking walks.
The knew who he was when they hired him a year ago, and the only known fact of his current free agency is he and the Dodgers are trying to come to terms.
I think the Dodgers are waiting for the money market to develop. If they are sitting at the same number discussed/ offered at the end of the season why budge until the market makes you budge? So far there hasn’t been a reason to budge. Every dollar over is pretty much double for them in cb taxes.
Pay much older options Teoscar or Santander more guaranteed money and comp pick…. or cough up 1 notable headliner prospect for 3yrs of Luis Robert that stings.
DBacks should trade Montgomery and Alec Thomas for other needs (closer perhaps) and sign Santander. I think he could wreak havoc in that ballpark.
They should keep Montgomery as a prime bounce back candidate. See if Merrill Kelly draws interest in his final year. Or keep everyone and roll with a 6 man rotation to start the year. Let injuries determine when you revert to a 5 man.
1. Gallen
2. Kelly
3. Nelson
4. Monty
5. Pfaadt
6. ERod
Really good rotation assuming Monty and ERod return to norms somewhat and Nelson and Pfaadt take steps forward.
Give Santander his 5 year deal, but defer money off the first year. Suarez and Monty becoming FA’s after this year covers the money, as would Gurriel if he opted out. They need to replace Walker’s bat and Santander is a great way to go about it.
Weird how 1 year at $33M or so ($10M or so deferred) was a great value but more years at $23.5M flat is too much. I read somewhere that he’s valued in the $17M-$20M range and basically if he’d sign for like 2 years/$35M to 3 years/$63M or so teams would pounce and get it done ASAP.
Based on other players’ contracts relative to their production and their weaknesses (be it defensive or high K rate or injury prone or whatever) it seems strange to me that Teoscar Hernandez can’t land a straight forward 3 years/$60M offer from virtually all suitors that would turn into like 3 years/$75M due to competitive bidding.
Like I say-perception and “vibes” are like half of the valuation equation- some guys have an upside perception that gets them extra years and a few million over slot AAV’s and other guys have this “he will crater any year now” perception that limits them to 1-2 year deals under par AAV despite equal or better overall production, WAR etc than those guys who get dollars and years thrown at them willy-nilly.
Trillionaire, the ability to play passable defense is a key differentiatior.
It was 1 year $23 mil with a bit of that deferred
1/$23. Get real.
I am curious if his asking price went up exponentially after the Soto signing, and he wants to be paid for excellent performance this past year, obviously.
He has 4.2 WAR, but averages 2.9 WAR/162 for his career. So, assuming last season was his best and he has one more like it, then regresses to his mean, he will be worth 10 WAR, which is approximately $80MM.
However, projections have him at only 2.3 WAR FOR 2025, which provides for a total WAR of only 6.9 for the next three seasons. So, that equates to an approximate value of $56MM.
Teo projects to produce less going forward unless it’s on a stacked team like last season. Buyer beware.
There’s a premium nowadays that is the new true value, though. If classic WAR evaluates him at 2.3 averaged over the next 3 years what was $18-19M can be safely and reasonably argued ti actually be worth $20-$25M. Why should others get that premium boost and Teoscar should have to settle for the technical value of his stats?
If the rule of thumb that every 1 WAR is worth $8 or $9 million is still true, and assuming he is roughly a 3 WAR player over the next 3 years, plus factoring in a slight premium because he’s a free agent, 3/$75 is very easily justified.
Let’s say year 1 he is a 3.5-4 WAR
Year 2: 2.5-3 WAR
Year 3: 2 WAR
Using the low end of that rule of thumb and calling it $8 million per WAR, then he’s worth:
Year 1: $28 M to $32 M
Year 2: $20 M to $24 M
Year 3: $16 M
So that pegs his production as being worth somewhere between $64 and $72 million. The Red Sox in particular do not have to worry about factoring in the value lost due to qualifying offer considerations, because they will receive QO compensation from whoever signs Pivetta to wash that out. Thus, Teoscar only costs money and given what you can expect to get from him carries a very reasonable ask price both for term and dollars. There is no excuse whatsoever not to get this done.
Would you give any DH a $28-32M one-year contract?
Yes? If he’s creating 4 WAR worth of value that’s literally what his production is worth….
Even if that wound up being a slight overpay, it would still be worth it to not have to watch the alternative which is Cora and Breslow stubbornly trying to make it through the year with a platoon of Rob Refsnyder and Romy Gonzalez in left field when Rafaela inevitably has to go plug the hole at second base again and there’s nobody else capable of playing left on the 26 man roster.
Did you have a problem with it when the Red Sox paid JD Martinez $24 million a year, for several years, back in 2018?
Then you need to account for the luxury tax for teams over the line. His best market are the teams under it willing to give him 3+ years for a lower AAV.
I’d be at least a little surprised if he repeated last year. In his two years prior to his walk year, he averaged 2.7 bWAR and a 117 OPS+. Given the likelihood of a 3-year decline, his ask of $66-72M wouldn’t interest me.
IMHO, he’s more like a $51-54M/3 player.
@yankee clipper. Probably doesn’t have much interest, and wouldn’t surprise me if the dodgers are checking on Santander. Seems like teams are looking for outfielders via trade. I’m wondering if that’s why the Astros did the tucker trade knowing they can get someone on a cheap deal.
That WAR valuation varies. Teams are paying less for 2+ WAR players last few years. I know the average over the last 7 offseasons has been $7.4M per 1 WAR. Frankly, what teams expect in performance is more like $6M per 1 WAR.
Either way, he’ll do well!
Teams are paying less for 2+ WAR players last few years.
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These calculations are also not linear. If you are expecting say, 2.7, 2.3, and 1.8, then the 1.8 can be knocked out right away since most team have some sort of 1.8 WAR DHs in the minors. Then it becomes more like 5 WAR for $64M+/-.
I thought I saw an article saying he was looking for 3/70 earlier in December.
Just found this: x.com/Ralph_MasonJr/status/1863624260415099205
So I don’t think it took a huge jump.
This guy is a gamer, and comes up big in big situations, I don’t see the Dodgers letting him go.. They are first on his list!
Yeah but it seems like it’s more like 10MM plus per WAR on the open market now.
The exact valuation seems to vary by position, but Fangraphs suggests that teams are paying less for the first two WAR than they are for production beyond that — which makes sense. You can often find +1 WAR position players on the waiver wire. Maybe $4M for the first WAR, $8M for the second WAR, and $12M for everything after that? For a +7 WAR player like Soto, that would come to $72M for the first year of the deal. A +2.5 WAR to +3 WAR player like Hernandez would be worth $18M to $24M on a one year deal. (His Steamer projection is for just +2.5 WAR, though I can see why some might hope for more than that.)
Like I mentioned, there’s an article that breaks down what teams are paying for players projected for 2+ WAR the past several years (using Fangraphs projections). It was as high as $9.3M in 2018 and 9.5M in 2020, and as low as 5.5M in 2021, 4.6M in 2023, and 6.7M in 2024. It averages out to $7.4M per WAR since 2018 for those players. Saying unilaterally though what people are worth per WAR almost doesn’t make sense because it varies year to year, but this is what teams have been paying. They’re getting smarter and more discerning in recent years clearly.
I would need to see the article to comment n the methodology.
I guess it’s okay for fans to noodle around with these sorts of calculations, so long as they realize that the teams don’t use them to value players.
Teams use a proprietary variant of WAR. It was proposed to use fWAR for arbitration during the CBA lockout.
All variants of WAR are proprietary by their nature. What they aren’t is secret. The analytical methods used by teams are secret, but I believe we can know that roster construction takes more into account than numerical representations of individual players. So while you can get away with using publicly available numbers to construct a salary model, the caveat has to be the knowledge that the teams are making these calculations differently.
Count the Jays out. They won’t commit 3 years and $60 mil to an ancillary player.
Unlimited money from these desperate clown Dodgers, Dave Roberts leaves his vacation to pitch to Soto, just give this child Hernandez what he wants so he can come home to d*ddy already and spare us the saga.
….H’what?
Mickey, you make Padres fans look very bad
How old are you, and what is your team?
He will come back. Everyone wants to play in la and for the best franchise in history
@Knicks. Always wanted Joc but not sure he can play defense. If by some miracle Stanton is gone Joc a perfect DH for Yankees
I love Teo’s energy and passion but I feel like it would get old fast on a losing team. To the point where teammates and coaches would want him to shut up and sit down.
This was the problem with the Jays. Hernandez was traded to Seattle because of his antics and poor influence on Vladdy.
If Jays were smart they would offer Teo something like 3 years $72 million with opt outs after year one and two. That means great friends Teo and Vladdy can play together in 2025. And Jays go for it. If Vladdy then leave Teo can too. Or stay with the security of the three year deal. But Shapiro-Atkins likely aren’t that smart.
Agree. It’s the right player for the Jays this year for the reason you stated. The fan base wouldn’t mind. I’m not sure Teo is interested….
It makes sense for him to stand on 3 years, since he’s not likely to get another bite at the apple at his age, unless he gets a contract with multiple opt-outs. And, why would you want to give a player his age that type of security when you think you might be buying declining performance at the end?
It would be nice to bring Teo back to Toronto. Its sad because no major free agent is going to sign without an outlook on the future being bright. Vladdy and Bo won’t resign without testing the market and by late January if there are still no major free agent signings for TOR, they gotta pull the plug. Will they do it? Absolutely not, but the future is bleak for all Jays fans… Two big bats, 3 more bullpen pieces, an ace or rebuilt starter, sign Vladdy, and hope for some of your prospects to step up. It’s a tall order for the Boo Jays
Boston offered him 2/28 last year. I dont see how offers would be any different this year from them or anyone else. He’s gonna have trubbs getting 3 years.
I would rather they sign Profar or Santander. But how do others feel about Joc Pederson or Winkler? They both are poor defensively but they both crush righties and had great OBP.
I’d like my Phillies to sign Profar for everyday duty in LF. The combo of Marsh/Rojas in CF won’t make anyone forget Willie, Mickey or the Duke, but I can live with that platoon playing good D and batting ninth.
Do the damn deal already Dodgers.
When you’re talking a 30% K rate, any lost bat speed brings that into the slash killing mid thirties. Some players have steeper cliffs than others.
He could maintain for another few years for sure, but this is the sort of profile you get burned by.
Who would teams rather have as their DH?
Alonso 6/150
Santander 5/100
Hernandez 3/80
Andy – Or Devers 9/1 Billion?
Pete refuses to be a DH.
Alonso
DBacks should sigh either Hernandez or Santander and trade away Montgomery and Alec Thomas for a closer and/or other pieces.
Seen an interesting graph about free agents signing since 2020.Baltimore with very low payroll because of the kids they played also didn’t sign anyone.Owner is rolling in cash
yep, but they still haven’t; won a game in the playoffs in a long time!
We need to remember why the Jays traded him away in the first place. There was the problem with him and the Jays. Hernandez was traded to Seattle because of his antics and poor influence on Vladdy.
The Dodgers had other people in the room, more veteran, that would put his childish behaviour on pause.
I can’t see the jays revisiting the idea of acquiring Hernandez unless it’s for a severely discounted rate. Having said that Atkins and Shapiro are desperate and don’t know how to build a winner.
Get it done Dodgers.
2 years 50mm ( make it work to be 20mm/y lux tax )
Teoscar has a decision. He signs with the highest bidder. Or. He signs with the Dodgers who will not be the highest bidder.
To think the Phillies passed o Teoscar Hernandez in the Rule 5 Draft a few years ago and chose Tyler Goeddel instead makes me ill. My Phillies need an everyday outfielder. Preferably a RH bat who can play either corner. Just not sure Dombro wants to pay the big cheese Teoscar will most likely receive.
Can I just say Teoscar seems to me to be projecting somewhat close to Nelson Cruz. Teoscar should be in RF at this point in his career, and can probably give another year or 2 of 75% of his at-bats as a OFer, then have a nice 2-3 years as a 2-3 WAR DH only. Teoscar is athletic and can have a similar late career success that isn’t common for his age. Three years with Teoscar wouldn’t scare me at all, someone is gonna get a lot of performance out of him.
Dodger fan here. The Dodgers do not make the WS without Hernandez. Hard to believe they would hold tight to a 2 year versus 3 year contract. That is seriously penny wise pound foolish. They were willing to spend an absurd amount – $600 M – on the potentially disruptive Soto. They can afford another $20M on Hernandez. He’s not as big a negative on defense as Soto, compare their defense in the WS.
Every year it’s the same old game of musical chairs. FAs always ask for the moon and when the chairs available become less and less somebody will sign so they have a job…Profar comes to mind…opts out of a contract with San Diego and ends up signing with a terrible Colorado team late and not only lost money but then got released and the Padres picked him up for almost nothing and then signed him for a million dollars last year and he had a career year and now he is in the same boat as some of the others…waiting for an offer that he feels is commensurate with his ability. Hernamdez will sign for 22 – 24 million a year on a two-year deal with a club option for a third. Profar might get a two year 22-24 million deal total with a club option for a third…fewer chairs and the music is trending to stop shortly. Unless these guys come down on their “ask” or agree to a good portion of deferred money they are going to be waiting for awhile.
Personally I would have no problem as a player to defer money for down the road and have a significant source of income long after I was done playing…getting a check every year for 2-3 million would be pretty sweet for say 10-15 years.