The Red Sox are in agreement with right-hander Walker Buehler on a one-year deal worth $21.05MM, according to a report from Russell Dorsey of Yahoo Sports. The deal is pending a physical and includes incentives that could raise the value beyond that aforementioned figure.
It’s an interesting deal for Buehler, as the $21.05MM guarantee perfectly mirrors that of the Qualifying Offer. Both Buehler himself and Red Sox right-hander Nick Pivetta were considered borderline candidates to be extended the QO at the outset of the winter. Ultimately, the Dodgers declined to extend that offer to Buehler while the Red Sox did so for Pivetta but were rebuffed. From a financial and roster perspective, today’s deal allows Buehler to secure the same guarantee he would’ve gotten had the Dodgers extended him the QO while allowing Boston to add a veteran right-hander to its young rotation on a one-year deal that mirrors what they offered Pivetta last month.
The 30-year-old right-hander was among the league’s most talented young starters during his rookie season back in 2018, and pitched to an excellent 2.82 ERA (146 ERA+) with a 3.16 FIP in a four-season stretch from 2018-21. That stretch concluded with Buehler finishing fourth in NL Cy Young award voting behind Corbin Burnes, Zack Wheeler, and Max Scherzer in a race that seemingly cemented his status as one of the league’s top aces. That career trajectory was thrown off the rails early in the 2023 season, however. Buehler pitched to a relatively pedestrian 4.02 ERA (101 ERA+) in 12 starts for the Dodgers that year before going on the injured list in June and ultimately requiring Tommy John surgery.
Buehler wouldn’t return to a major league mound until May of 2024, nearly two full years later, and struggled badly upon returning. Additional injuries limited Buehler to just 16 starts for the Dodgers this year, and even when he took the mound the right-hander struggled badly. In all, Buehler pitched to a 5.38 ERA (72 ERA+) with a 5.54 FIP in his final regular season in a Dodgers uniform. With that being said, the righty did manage to end his season on a positive note with a solid 3.60 ERA during the club’s run to the World Series championship this year. After a brutal start against the Padres in the NLDS, Buehler fired off ten scoreless frames between the NLCS and the World Series while striking out a third of his opponents.
That combination of a strong postseason, a terrible regular season, a fraught injury history, and a dominant track record made Buehler one of the most intriguing free agents on the market this winter and perhaps the ultimate high-risk, high-reward signing. To that end, it’s perhaps no surprise that he garnered interest from a huge number of teams. In addition to the Red Sox, Buehler also garnered interest from the Tigers, Cubs, Mets, Yankees, Athletics, and Braves this winter. That wide-ranging interest made it apparent early in the winter that Buehler was likely to surpass the one-year, $15MM deal MLBTR predicted he would land as part of our annual Top 50 MLB Free Agents list, where Buehler was ranked as the #37 free agent this winter. It even seemed to open the door to the possibility the right-hander would be able to land a mutli-year deal with opt-outs; while he ultimately settled for a straight one-year pact, his $21.05MM salary in 2025 is likely much healthier than what he would’ve received on an annual basis on a multi-year deal.
For the Red Sox, the addition of Buehler adds another arm with plenty of upside to a rotation already full of it. If Buehler manages to rebound to the form he showed earlier in his career, he’ll form a daunting front two in the Boston rotation alongside lefty Garrett Crochet with right-handers Lucas Giolito and Tanner Houck joining them to create a formidable quartet. The additions of Crochet and Buehler have also significantly deepened the group, as right-handers Brayan Bello, Kutter Crawford, Richard Fitts, and Cooper Criswell all figure to be in the conversation for starts as well after being key pieces of the club’s rotation last year. Further down the depth chart, the Red Sox also boast interesting upside plays Quinn Priester and Michael Fulmer.
The addition of Buehler brings the club’s payroll for 2025 up to just over $175MM, according to RosterResource. The figure is substantially higher for luxury tax purposes, however, sitting just under $212MM. That leaves the club with about $29MM to work with before they surpass the first luxury tax threshold. The Red Sox last surpassed that first threshold in 2022, but there’s been no indication from club brass that the first threshold represents a hard limit on their spending amid what has been a fairly busy offseason for the club. With the rotation seemingly solidified, it seems likely the club’s priorities will now shift towards adding a right-handed bat to their lineup, whether that comes in the form of an outfielder such as Teoscar Hernández or an infielder like Alex Bregman or Nolan Arenado.
Fenway 1
We’re alive!!
Fever Pitch Guy
I called it!!! One year for cheap dollars to a guy coming off a major injury and a 5.38 ERA this season.
Classic Red Sox move!
murphy8
I wouldn’t call 21 million cheap but okay
KingKen
Exactly. This joker has a criticism for literally every and any move the Sox make.
Fever Pitch Guy
murph – Oh it’s most definitely an overpay, but let me clarify.
The offseason began with many people hilariously expecting the Sox to sign TWO of Snell, Burnes and Fried.
Snell got $182M, Fried got $218M, and Burnes will likely get $240M+
Instead the Sox spent $21M on Buehler, $18.25M on an injured Sandoval, and $2.9M on Crochet.
The number of pitchers they’ve acquired over the past year who are injured or coming off serious injury has grown to a comical level.
william-2
FPG is 100% correct. Remember that the floor entering this off season was the addition two elite pitchers to the rotation. The deal is cheap on the contract when viewed in the lenses of TWO ELITE starters. It is only one year 21 million. Not a multi-year for an elite healthy pitcher coming off a good year which would represent NOT cheap dollars.
21 million on ONE YEAR for a pitcher coming off a major injury and down year. If he does well, he is either gone or will demand far more money and years. If he is bad, that was 21 million that could have gone to signing a Burnes as an example for multiple years. Either way, the deal only looks good if he pitches above that dollar value, and we are able to get a return on it.
This contract only assures 2 things. 21 million is no longer available, and that we will be looking for his replacement in 12 months. There is no way to look at this other than a failure, or lack of will, to add 2 elite starters when that was the known need and mandate entering the off season. I view this move as a potent upgrade over Pivetta for one year or a lateral one.
Captain K-Midd
It’s cheap this offseason…lol
all in the suit that you wear
The Boras deal for Burnes will likely be an underwater albatross for 4 of its 8 years. I think Fried is heading for TJ surgery with his recent forearm tightness issues.
Fever Pitch Guy
William – It is so refreshing to see people like you who actually GET IT!!!
All the November headlines about how the Red Sox “will start acting like the Red Sox again” …. how “this time they mean it” ….. BULLCRAP!!!
Regardless of the outcome, whether they get lucky or not, the truth is they are STILL doing business like a small market team albeit with a little larger budget.
Fever Pitch Guy
Ken – You’re not possibly referring to me, are you?
avenger65
William: You guys seem to always look on the negative side. I wouldn’t worry about the money. You won’t be paying it.
rsoxbob
Sox fans worry about the money because it is now wasted (I don’t see Buehler giving Boston even Pivetta production this year) instead of signing a real pitcher like Flaherty.
Rexhudler86
@FPG. Hard to say it’s a overpay. I would agree Sandoval was. It typically takes two years for a pitcher to come back from Tommy john. I would take a chance with buehler for the price, and it being a one year deal, because he has a track record of being elite. Him signing a one year deal makes me think that he feels good and knows he can cash in next season.
william-2
I don’t want to be negative. I throw praise at smart or shrewd moves when I see them. I just praised the hell out of the Yankees a couple of times this off season, and I hate them. They had glaring needs and whether you like the players or not, for the 100th year in a row they aggressively filled their needs in order to compete in the playoffs and possibly win a world series again.
Most of my Red Sox posts are negative because they are counter intuitive. They usually solve nothing long term, and usually not even short term. Many of the moves are high risk for little reward.
The Red Sox have glaring issues. Some have been for years, and one for over a decade. Only fools wouldn’t notice them. So, why are those needs remaining unaddressed for years, or a decade? Why is there so much emphasis as a large market team on reclamations and journeymen? Why is it that what they publicly say is so drastically different from their resulting moves?
I seem negative, because they have given me no reason to be enthusiastically positive, including the trade. I knew we would do a trade and sign for the two starters, but I felt that the pieces made no sense for an organization with nearly zero catching depth. Crochet is fine…. potentially. Chapman was a great pickup, a few years ago, to solve the problem of not having a single dominant lefty in the pen since 2013. Are we better defensively? Have we added the power we needed, or the right-handed bats? Is the rotation more stable, or is it filled with even more question marks then 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 years ago? The bullpen is what? I have no idea if it is passable, or terrible. Half of it needs a MASH unit, and the rest is a collection of used to be good, or hasn’t been good yet.
Make them give us a reason to be enthusiastically positive. Don’t give them credit or passes for simply making a ton of moves that are mostly necessary because of smaller cheaper short-term contracts and high turn over rates.
Fever Pitch Guy
avenger – You don’t understand how the Red Sox operate.
They are not like the Dodgers or Mets, they have a much smaller budget that they stick to.
Fever Pitch Guy
bob – Exactly! I was expecting a Flaherty signing, not another roll of the dice to maybe save a few bucks.
Fever Pitch Guy
Rex – I totally agree with you, typically 2 years before they return to the prior level of performance and endurance.
No team is going to give a multi-year contract to a guy coming off a 5.38 ERA 1.553 WHIP season, not for much money anyway.
Shoman5
Here are the current top pitching contracts How many of these guys pitched in the World Series last year. 3 of these are Dodgers and did not pitch in WS or a full year.
Shohei Ohtani 0 IP WS Win
Los Angeles Dodgers
$70 million
Zack Wheeler 200 IP 1st round exit – this contract worth it.
Philadelphia Phillies
$42 million
Jacob deGrom 10 IP Missed playoffs. Not more than 100 IP in 4 years.
Texas Rangers
$37 million
Blake Snell 104 IP Missed playoffs. More than 129 IP only 2 seasons of career.
Los Angeles Dodgers
$36.4 million
Gerrit Cole 95IP Lost World Series
New York Yankees
$36 million
Tyler Glasnow. 134 IP did not pitch in World Series
Los Angeles Dodgers
$27.31 million
Max Fried. 174 IP 1st round exit exit
New York Yankees
$27.3 million
Yoshinobu Yamamoto. 90 IP
Los Angeles Dodgers
$27.08 million
Carlos Rodon. 174 IP No Title. 4 ERA
New York Yankees
$27 million
Jordan Montgomery. 117 IP missed playoffs
Arizona Diamondbacks
$25 million
Sonny Gray 166 IP missed playoffs
St. Louis Cardinals
$25 million
Nathan Eovaldi 170 IP 3.8 ERA extensive injury history.. 170 + innings only a few times.
Texas Rangers
$25 million
Aaron Nola. 199 IP. 1st round exit
Philadelphia Phillies
$24.57 million
Robbie Ray. 30 IP no playoffs
San Francisco Giants
$23 million
A couple of these contracts may be worth it. But that kind of money on long term contracts rarely work out. I think Red Sox are being smart with short term gambles vs. long term gambles.
all in the suit that you wear
Flaherty is a roll of the dice. The Yankees supposedly killed their trade for him last year due to his medicals. He also seems erratic from start to start.
Fever Pitch Guy
william – I wrote this last week, people CHOOSE how they view us. I write a ton of supportive, optimistic posts but they are ignored or not acknowledged by those who WANT to accuse me of being negative all the time.
Fact is, these are very dark days for the Red Sox organization. All of their success came under Larry & Dave, ever since Dave left it’s been a disaster.
Bottom line, there is ZERO excuse for the team with the 4th-highest revenue in MLB to be missing the postseason on a regular basis. Wasting money is a big reason why.
Fever Pitch Guy
Shoman – Let’s see them actually win something before labeling them as ‘smart”.
Since their 2018 championship …..
ZERO World Series Championships
ZERO AL Championships
ZERO Division Titles
And just one WC during a Covid season.
Not good.
Rexhudler86
@fpg. The price is fair for his track record. I’m sure someone was offering 23-24. Syndergaard and Harvey got 21 years ago. After the top 3. I would say he’s the best with no pick attached. Plus he was trending up towards the end. Ohtani pitched 10 innings and looked like crap didn’t bounce back until the second year.
Poolhalljunkies
Fpg you get so excited by being right about them not spending ..i get it..i enjoy being right about things too..but anyone who didnt see this coming hasnt been paying attention so..maybe lets try and act like we expected this..since we know you def did and try and find something positive or better than then whether ” still get lucky” and not like what they have done..well they did it..cant take it back so as a sox fan i would hope you want this deal to be great..dont you?
Shoman5
4 championships since 2004. Who else has done that? They are in process of building more stability in winning . It’s a change of philosophy and takes a few years . They look good for the long term and could be playoff bound in 2025
bwmiller79
Great moves for the Red Sox, avoiding long term expensive deals on Snell and Fried, Both have had their bouts with injuries, both carry as much injury risk as Buehler.
Buehler has put up good numbers in the echelon of a Burnes, a Fried, a Snell, and you get him in a one year deal because he is betting on himself to be healthy and pitch well. He is looking for 30M AAV long term like Snell and Fried. He bet on himself to get it. If he is the Ace this season, you can extend him to a deal similar to that of Snell or Fried. If he isn’t you have good options to fall back on.
One full season of Crochet and Sandoval in ’26. Both potentially could be extended.
Houck/Crawford both will be in ARB in ’26 with team control in ’27. Both looking for extensions too.
Bello signed a sweet deal and he looks great to me. 6yrs/55M – ideally you’d like to lock in Houck/Crochet/Crawford on similar deals. Don’t know if it’s attainable but it’s reasonable to me. Sandoval too, that would be a nice rotation to keep in place for years. Giolito could possibly be a replacement, Whitlock could be a good bullpen/Swingman.
Boston has a good team in place and is still 30M under luxury tax thresholds.
Raymond Flagstaff
If we were only playing for a WS i wouldnt find baseball a valuable hobby.
Raymond Flagstaff
Idk you but its always easier for people to attack someomes character than make valid points
dasit
every long-term pitcher contract is a likely time-bomb. the yankees want to win now and rolled the dice. losing soto forced them in the direction of run-prevention and i prefer fried to burnes for more years/$
dasit
almost all of those signings were win-now moves. the red sox have been building to a championship window with a stocked farm system. i thought the window would start in 2025 but imo their behavior suggests 1 of 2 things: they see the window starting in 2026 or are truly operating like a mid-budget organization
TB Sox NY
If they have been or will be injured we don’t want them.Good thing we have a pitching coach and pitching program that is supposed to be top notch.Even if we got Burnes,what’s to say he won’t get injured and his contract would then be an albatross.
bwmiller79
I agree but think Sandoval was a nice deal too, think he gets back to the bullpen by the end of the season, could pitch some good innings and be ready for ’26 @ ~14M not that bad of an overpay.
dasit
i’m probably in the minority but i believe bloom did a good job carrying out his assignment. i always assumed he was brought in to build the farm system and set the team up for some future multi-year championship window. he was never going to be the guy to see it through because that requires a dombrowski skill-set which bloom does not have. bloom did his job but the jury is still out on whether they intend to go all-in now that the top prospects are about to graduate. i get the frustration of red sox fans but there’s an argument that the window is still a year away. if they don’t spend next offseason we’ll know for sure that they’re a high revenue organization operating like the brewers
Raymond Flagstaff
All the pitchers are injured
Sad.Sox 3
FPG – I like the player. It’s definitely an infusion of talent. He’s no longer a #1 SP, but solid, tenacious..
Why the one year deal? Could’ve just kept Pivetta. Seems sort of lateral-ish
gwynnpadreshof2007
if things go right for Buehle, he has a way higher ceiling than Pivetta does
Big whiffa
He bet on himself as a #1. That’s why he took this deal. There was for sure 2/40 or 3/60 deals out there with all the buzz and interest. One great season and he will get over a 100 mil next year
dano62
They made the same offer to pivetta but he rejected it
Red Sox Restoration Project
Buehler has a much higher ceiling than Pivetta ever had. Might be an overpay but won’t kill us for a year
Fever Pitch Guy
Sad – It just strikes me as hilarious the number of pitchers they have acquired who are either injured or just coming off serious injury. All short-term high-risk overpays.
It’s like if the Red Sox had $425 to invest in, what would they choose?
One share of Tesla or eight $50 scratch tickets?
No question they’d choose the eight scratch tickets.
Red Sox Restoration Project
Red Sox are a constant restoration project, hence the username. I think some of the gambles they make have been worthy (I like this one), but there’s no doubt that they are all questionable considering they are from an “island of misfit toys.”
I guess it’s a great reference for this time of year.
Fever Pitch Guy
Big – If he returns to 2018-2021 form, sure. But how many 30+ pitchers make a quick return in performance from surgery?
It cracks me up they are willing to take all of these huge risks, but didn’t have any expectation of Sale rebounding this year.
Fever Pitch Guy
gwynn – As always, time will tell.
They’ve gambled on a lot of these types of signings, at least one of them should pay off eventually ….
Red Sox Restoration Project
I think the Sale scenario is a bit different. You have a fantastic point, but I think because Sale was a trade and not a free agent acquisition, they expected to get something back. Sale was also battling injuries multiple years.
I do wish we still had Chris Sale, but i don’t know he will be healthy all this year either. He was a dousy with that second contract
Blueberry
@sad.sox3 and @FPG – Pivetta is 32, has never had a dominant full year, is looking to sign for 3yrs or more and costs a draft pick. Buehler is 30, has had very dominant yrs and pitched like nails in the playoffs, is willing to sign for 1 and doesn’t cost a pick=allows them to keep the Pivetta pick. Yes – Buehler is coming off of injury, but are you sure he can’t pitch to the sub-4 ERA Pivetta has never manages? If you think his chance of raising the ceiling by pitching to a sub-4 ERA and maybe being able to dominate in the playoffs is equal to or better than Pivetta’s chance of doing so, then the signing you call lateralish is not so from a future team flexibility perspective. Don’t you think they want to let Fitts or Priester grow into rotation spots? This allows for that. Signing Pivetta or another one of those 3yr $20M+ guys doesn’t allow their young guys to step up. I don’t know why you want to block them with bad contracts, but fortunately Breslow is running the team, so he is doing the smart thing that is available to him here. The contracts others are taking on will prove stupid, and the teams signing them will have less to spend in future yrs. There are a number of potentially attractive SPs available next yr, and multi-yr deals this yr block rotation spots to sign those guys as well. This signing isn’t the most amazing, but it’s very solid given the market that exists this offseason and preserves future flexibility and a pick
steldarl87
They got what most thought was really good value for Sale, and they knew they weren’t going anywhere last year so it was good to pick up a highly touted asset.
steldarl87
David Ortiz a prime example of a once touted player who had been injured and then an underperformer. They “bottom fed” and took a chance. Bill Mueller was the same. Also Bellhorn. Also some of their bullpen back then. How did that all work out?
Sad.Sox 3
Blue – if i was inarticulate about it, i apologize. I wasn’t suggesting keeping Pivetta.
I think Buehler is a fair amount of talent ahead of Pivetta, and there is “more ceiling than floor” to borrow a phrase from Breslow. Moreover, i’m happy to have Buehler here.
My problem is this, signing these one year deals are a waste of time. If Buehler bets on himself and has a very good year, he walks away from the Sox, because he’s 31yo and will want $25mm+, and the Red Sox dont sign that demographic of player.
Therefore,two things result: first, you have to trust Breslow to hit again on another one year deal (in perpetuity), and second, you have to hope theres someone with the upside of a guy like Buehler available.
IMO, the other thing that everyone needs to realize is this, forget the market “this year”, as if its going to get better……prices go up, not down. Unless they change the CBA to prevent this craziness, ticket prices and free agent prices go up……
Shoman5
Pivetta is a mal-content
Blueberry
I understand your point, but there is an alternative… and I think this is what they want to do. Imagine your pitching development works, and you mature a prospect into a starting pitcher. Also, don’t sleep on that compensation pick for Pivetta. We turned a 4th Rd comp pick into Campbell. There are stud arms available in the Rd 2 comp pick area. Picking up an extra guy who has the chance to become a top 5-10 prospect and ace in the future is a big deal. The Buehler signing keeps that pick in place. Hopefully they now sign Tanner Scott to complete the bullpen. Their pitching depth is monumentally better than last yr. If they can attract Sasaki, awesome (looks remote), but then their pitching would look great actually.
Hoping they avoid Teoscar’s QO and find a way to get out of Yoshida for a guy like Suzuki, and they will be fine and fun to cheer for as the kids come up.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Early in the year in 2024 he was trying to adjust getting back from his injury. He’ll probably be your best pitcher in terms of wins
I wonder if there is any guaranteed $ for a 2nd year option etc. He’s doing the mercenary bet on yourself thing by parachuting in. Then next year he can sign a multi year contract 4-5 years maybe
I wonder how many teams he talked to he held out because he thought they were low balling him. I think most BOS fans should be happy
YaGottaBelieveAgain
NYY management and fans may have Sour Grapes
SalaryCapMyth
It was always one of the more likely scenarios that Beuhler was going to get a one year prove it deal. Not really much to brag about in that prediction.
Bruin1012
FPG I’m not opposed to this move like it much more than signing Flaherty to an inflated contract.
Buehler looked pretty good against the Yankees it’s not unusual to take a bit of time after TJ surgery. He looked pretty good against the Yankees though.
Fever Pitch Guy
Bruin – My only concern is his ability to rebound from major surgery into a $21M+ pitcher so quickly. History has shown it doesn’t happen that fast, especially when you’re in your 30’s.
So who goes from the list of veteran starters?
As of now it’s:
Houck
Crochet
Bello
Crawford
Giolito
Buehler
And maybe Sandoval.
I know people assume Crawford is the odd man out, but i would have liked to see how he does after being stretched out this year.
Shoman5
No one goes. Keep the depth
bwmiller79
Sianara Nick Pivetta.
Buehler a nice upgrade to Pivetta. Red Sox have made two bold moves this off season, neither have long term implications should they rightly refuse Crochet an extension until the end of the season.
They can squeeze Crochet all the way into ’26.
Or, Crochet could take a real team friendly extension, 4 yrs / 48M, no opt outs.
His arm blows out and he will be battling back for years for that same payday.
stu18germanator
Cheap? Are you high?
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
The Red Sox did the exact same thing last year. They gave Liam Hendriks a 2 year deal when they knew he needed TJS.
rsoxfan4ever57
Stfu
Uncle Pedro’s Dancing Kittens
I was sure they would get another pitcher through a trade and someone with better numbers. I know they mentioned Buehler but had not heard anything in a while so assumed they moved on. All I can do is hope he has a great year. Now I am going to keep my fingers crossed for a right-handed bat and bullpen help.
Fever Pitch Guy
Uncle – Agreed, at this point we can’t do much except hope he fails the physical but that’s probably unlikely.
I’m more concerned about his health than anything. Very very few come back after a second TJS, and he’s 30 now.
deweybelongsinthehall
And breathing!
LordD99
Until he takes the mound!
chemfinancing
Riiight
norcalblue
You will love the guy Fenway. Fearless competitor!
soxshortstop
Who gets voted off the 40- man island … ummm roster before signing. Any guesses?
choof
zoo wee mama
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Atkins and Shapiro cuddling together on vacation in the ice hotel I guess
choof
gotta stay warm somehow brotha
bestone
Prefer them to be on an ice floe heading out into the arctic waters….with their resumes
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Dang…. best of luck to him and congrats on getting an extra $6,050,000 from the Red Sox, Buehler…. Buehler….
Misty Moobs
Let Craig cook!!!
holycow16
Crap.
PutPeteinthehall
Thought he was going to the Northside as well…….
Unclemike1526
Jed has absolutely no excuse for not signing Tanner Scott. None. Zero, Zip, Zilch. Except the phobia in his own mind of signing Closers to serious contracts. Counsell has always had a top notch Closer. He probably won’t get one here either as long as Jed Freud is here.
Led Hoyer
This would have been such a Hoyer move. I’d rather pay Buehler than trade for Luzardo. Jed has been in hiding for a couple weeks.
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Dodgers dynasty ends today
VermonsterSD
I do laugh at everyone freaking out about the Dodgers, when they actually have done nothing but sign Snell. They lost Bueller, and Hernandez so far. They’re not a better team this off season.
DarrenDreifortsContract
lol.
Fever Pitch Guy
vermont – When you win the World Series and you sign one of the top starting pitchers in the game, you don’t need to do much more.
I think Teo stays, but even if he leaves and they don’t replace him it’s not like Conforto is chopped liver.
bag o ballz
as a giants fan watching conforto the last couple of years here – he has in fact been chopped liver
jhomeslice
The Dodgers not only signed Snell, but have Gonsolin coming back, as well as Ohtani to pitch. And Glasnow, who did not pitch after August. A lot of them could break down and are not great bets for 150 innings, but I’ll go out on a limb and say that they will be pretty good in 2025. And WS favorites, again. 95 wins is almost a given, could be well over 100 if their pitchers have better than expected health. An absolute beast of a team, to which criticism is laughable.
bag o ballz
I mean that is to be seen. the last thing I want is for the dodgers to succeed but if they do get sasaki and ohtani returns to his previous pitching performances you are looking at a much stronger pitching staff – considering you have snell, yamamoto, glasnow and add sasaki and ohtani – you kind of have 5 aces
MRSHOWTIME
They also signed a potential Ace called Ohtani to anchor the rotation along w Snell, Yamo and Mr Glass Joe Glasgow
JoeBrady
sign Snell. They lost Bueller, and Hernandez
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I really like this signing for the RS, but continue to think that Snell is way, way better.
cwsOverhaul
2 guys motivated to get paid in Crochet and Buehler, the former who will extend and latter likely back on track to get a big deal next offseason. Nice work!
MysteryWhiteBoy13
What is Giolito’s contract and health status?
InsertWittyName
Exercised his $19M player option for the upcoming season
all in the suit that you wear
Giolito is coming back around the end of May if all keeps going well.
chemfinancing
Great
KingKen
He had Internal Brace surgery on his elbow on March 12th. That generally is thought to have a quicker recovery than full blown TJ surgery so that would put him in line to join the team sometime in the first half of the 2025 season provided he doesn’t have any setbacks in his recovery.
'Tang It
I liked beuhler as an option before the world series. Thought that might put him out of reach, but decent signing. I just worry about durability in the rotation though. Crochet, beuhler, houck, Bello, giolito have all had issues with health to various degrees. We do have decent depth now though.
Fever Pitch Guy
Tang – Nahhh ….. the trifecta isn’t complete until they overpay Means.
Then they will have cornered the market on pitchers returning from major surgery.
tikiagedola
Yankees have 2 more years before they are a 4th place team
Yanks4life22
100%. I’m upset they are going to suck for a while but hopefully it weeds out this generation of ignorant fans who think the Yankees should get every player and win every year.
You know the idiots who chant “Deeeewickkk Jetahhh”
metsin4
They might be this year.
Yanks4life22
Could be. Fried is a good pitcher but he is due for TJS and that’s really the only acquisition this offseason. Goldschmidt is past his prime just like Rizzo was so that’s a lateral move. Don’t see how any moves made make up for losing Soto though.
LordD99
Replacing a closer who blew 13 saves should help. A lot.
pohle
vlad jr extension would be the nail in the coffin, but as for now thats what they are clinging to
Mikenmn
Quite possible. The years of thin drafts and shipping out talent and lopsided trades and absurd taking on of overpriced contracts sooner or later will cost for a while. The DJLM, Donaldson, Rizzo, Stanton, and on we go. The Sosa trade was a calculated risk and I’m not faulting Cashman. Some of these other moves? A deep pocket doesn’t translate to shrewdness.
Yanks4life22
That and they don’t have as deep of pockets as they used to. They are on budget and they have shown repeatedly they will ignore glaring holes on the team bc they won’t spend past their budget.
Mikenmn
The problem is that if they don’t want to spend over a limit, then they might as not be spending as much….because the CBT and draft picks. Pick a direction.. I get the original idea of Stanton–Twin Towers and perhaps his decline is steeper than anticipated. It was a blunder but I can see some logic in it.. Some of these other moves….
LordD99
Been hearing that for twenty years.
metsin4
They only won 82 games two years ago and finished in fourth place. So I guess people were right.
dankyank
“Why put off for tomorrow what can be done today?”
-Brian Cashman
chemfinancing
I know Cashman wants Bregman
chemfinancing
The Yankees have 3 more months before they are the 4th place team
william-2
The Yankees will win the east. Of that I have no doubt.
chemfinancing
The Orioles will win the East. Of that I have no doubt.
metsin4
The Red Sox will win the east. Of that I have no doubt.
alumofuf
lol
Last year they said that and they finished first in the division and the best record in the American League. 2025 will repeat all over again.
LordD99
That is true. I was here last year predicting the Yankees would win the division, with Orioles fans insisting the O’s would win by 10, and Mets and Red Sox fans predicting the Yankees for last.
10centBeerNight
Great move by BOS.
HopefulTwinsFan
Most one year deals with rebound candidates are described as “low risk, high reward” potential… But $21MM for a year of Buehler after the season he just had seems questionable to me.
'Tang It
Meh. Despite what most red Sox fans will tell you, the red Sox aren’t cheap and don’t care about a contract like this. They just don’t want to give out years to 30+ pitchers. We’ve had so many contracts backfire on us it’s not funny.
Joemo
So instead of paying for a guy who had success in recent seasons and dealing with a bad year or two at the end, they just keep paying a premium for recliminaton project pitchers.
The rotation has been an area of weakness because they keep doing dumb things like this.
Occams_hairbrush
“The rotation has been an area of weakness”
Crochet, Giolito, Buehler, Hauck, Bello.
So weak.
Joemo
“has been”
And in the last few years, which one of those guys has had a good second half of the season?
Bello and that’s it?
Crochet had a horrible second half in 2024.
Houck took a big step back in the second half Of 2024.
Giolito had a horrible second half of 2023 and then was hurt.
Buehler has a bad 2024.
Fever Pitch Guy
Tang – I will LMAO if the Sox give a massive contract to the soon-to-be 31 year old Bregman.
The biggest issue Red Sox Nation has with all of these dumpster-diving acquisitions is the Red Sox insisted they would “get back to acting like the Red Sox” and stated they “could go over the LT threshold” blah blah blah ….. as usual, they deceived us.
steldarl87
So you are on record as saying that Crochet is a dumpster reclamation pickup, is that right? And a serious error because they gave up Teel. You’d simply have strapped the team down with more than has already been paid out for “two of Snell, Fried and Burnes.”
BITA
He was top 10 in Cy Young votes in 2019 and 2021. The reward is really high here which is why the cost is more.
PutPeteinthehall
The hope is that he was just getting back to form in the playoffs after TJS. Better than signing a pitcher that needs surgery. They have the money to spend. Unfortunately the Minnesota major league club has lost a part of its already low income and for them 20m is probably 25 percent of total payroll.
abcrazy4dodgers
Congrats and thank you for your service Walker!
Niekro floater
FAs flying off the board now. Thanks for the Dodger memories. Goodluck in Beantown.
Sorinotsori
And to think if SD bounced the Dodgers in the first round buehler would’ve been lucky to get 10 mil haha
Judge Judy
Bye bye Burnes. Need dollar bills and Henry is picking up pennies looking for a 1943.
BITA
I like the deal for the Red Sox. They need ace potential and have the depth to cover it if him or Crochet miss time with injuries. I take him over Pivetta any day of the week.
MafiaBass
No, the Red Sox do not need ace potential. They need an ace. What they have are four starters (Crochet, Beuhler, Giolito, and Houck) that still have to prove (or in a couple cases, re-prove) they can do it for an entire season and hopefully playoffs.
I’m rooting for them, but this feels like a souped up version of more of the same. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
One more thing, they still need a credible RH bat.
BITA
The Red Sox don’t have the money to have a more dependable rotation so they went with upside. And that’s a good thing.
Joemo
BITA – ??? They had like 60MM in space before the luxury tax this off-season. They had more than enough money to sign two top tier arms in FA and still trade for Crochet or another arm.
BITA
If they intended to spend all that money they wouldn’t have traded for Crochet.
It’s tacky for a fan to tell other fans how much their team has to spend. Thats lame.
The Red Sox have other team needs besides the rotation.
Joemo
You said the Sox didn’t have money to have a.more dependable rotation, that’s just false.
BITA
Did this little loser mute me in the middle of a conversation?
All teams have money. But some choose to spend it.
stymeedone
Ok, how about the Red Sox didn’t have money [in their budget] to have a more dependable rotation. Assuming your teams budget lines up with the luxury tax has no bearing with reality.
HighOnPineTar
@MafiaBoss – considering Crochet just a “regular starter” and “more of the same” completely discredits your argument, that is just stupidity. Updated Vegas odds correctly have Crochet as the 3rd place favorite odds for winning 2025 AL Cy Young behind only Skubal and Cole, with nearly equal odds as Cole at 2nd. They also have Crochet *more than twice as likely* to win a CY than either both of Fried or Snell, so its safe to assume Burnes will fall behind Crochet as well if he signs in the AL.
Only once in Snell’s 9 seasons has he had a FIP better than 2024 Crochet’s 2.69 FIP, and that was this season for Snell but with big asterisk of only 104 IP. Fried came close just once in his 8 seasons, and that was 2022 when he finished 2nd in CY votes and 2.70 FIP.
Crochet is objectively an elite ace until he proves otherwise.
JoeBrady
considering Crochet just a “regular starter” and “more of the same” completely discredits your argument,
==========================
I don’t know why posters do this. It happens pro and con, but the sheer hyperbole is these comments is insane. Anyone wanting to bet on Crochet just being a “regular”, just send me your money.
Uncle Pedro’s Dancing Kittens
I think there may have been better options through trade, but I am going to keep a positive mind. Not sure the quality of the depth they have and I assume this the final piece as far as starters are concerned. Once we get to spring training we will have a better idea.
JoeBrady
One of the things I like about this signing is that it hopefully leaves a lot of payroll available to sign another elite RP.
BITA
Theoretically the Crochet trade is what will allow the Red Sox to spend bigger in other areas and produce a legit contender. And there are certainly a lot of good relievers left to sign.
Goose
So instead of going for Sasaki or Burnes they go get a rehab project. This is like Dan Duquette all over again. Lets sign guys coming back from injury that use to be good even though we have the money and prospect capital to go get a really good player.
Bruin1012
Goose this doesn’t preclude Boston for going after Sasaki in fact I’m quite sure they will go after him. This probably means Burnes is out though.
william-2
Every team will attempt to sign Sasaki. It would be maleficence not to try. The Red Sox will show “interest,” but there isn’t anyone alive that thinks the Red Sox will land him. It is possible, but it would be the single most shocking story of the off season. When the time comes it will not be a shock who he picks.
Goose
You are correct but with the current track record what does your gut tell you? The 2003 version of this ownership would not recognize what it is today.
william-2
The Red Sox ownership in 2003 was desperately hungry to win and you could feel the energy and drive they had. Not anymore. Not even close. I would go as far as to say they purposely have not tried in a few years. I have no doubt they are not trying this year either.
BITA
Last year they traded away the guy with injuries who used to be good for the reliable guy.
How did that work out?
Lindor's Bodyguard
Last year they signed Giolito to a $39 million deal. Saux gonna Saux.
JoeBrady
Goose
So instead of going for Sasaki
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ROTFLMAO!!!
All 30 teams are going for Sasaki.
Joemo
Red Sox Center for Rehabbing Pitchers adds on yet another arm.
Didn’t pitch over 6IP once last season. Both bWAR and fWAR had him below 0.
Let’s spend 21MM and hope Buehler can regain his 2021 form instead of spending on guys who were actually good in recent memory.
BITA
Last year they Red Sox traded away the injured formerly good pitcher to go get Giolito who was actually good in recent memory. And…..that was a mistake…….
Joemo
Go look at Giolito’s second half of 2023. He was horrible. Why they gave a 40MM deal to a guy with a second half era near 7 is beyond me.
BITA
Still traded away Sale. The center for rehabbing pitchers probably should have kept that one around right?
Joemo
So I believe a Sale traded needs to happen because the most likely outcome was he would get hurt somehow and the entire extension would have been a waste. They got back some value for his extension, although the return of Grissom looked bad at the time and somehow looks worse now.
By trading Sale, the Sox signaled they were punting on 2024 before the season started. If they were trying to compete in 2024, then keeping Sale and flipping him at the deadline would have been the move to make.
all in the suit that you wear
Giolito went through a divorce in the second half of 2023.
BITA
Joe what are you talking about?
If they kept Sale they wouldn’t have sold at the deadline they would have added for the playoff push.
Joemo
What is the part that isn’t clear?
Going into 2024, the Sox decided that they were building for the future instead of competing for the playoffs.
If the Sox were trying to compete in 2024, keeping Sale made the most sense. If he stays healthy, he’s a top of the rotation arm. If the team is doing poorly, he can be flipped at the deadline for some good prospects. If he does poorly and the team is out of it, then the Sox get a big nothing out of his massive extension.
By trading Sale and replacing him with Giolito (second half era near 7 in 2023), they punted on the season.
BITA
Then why did they trade for ONeill who was basically the hitter version of Sale?
Trading Sale was a colossal mistake. We agree with that right???
rotofool
Bingo, great point! Divorce sometimes really affects onfield performance, which also combined with an injury, can derail a career.
HOFer Frank Thomas’ career was interrupted by two terrible seasons while he was quietly going through something similar. Once the divorce happened, he absolutely dominated again in 2000, losing out on a third MVP to cheater Jason Giambi.
HOFer Ryne Sandberg handled things differently with his divorce, first officially retiring from baseball to reduce his income to $0. He then served up papers to his scumbag wife leaving her with a lot less, only returning to the game after his divorce was finalized. Mad respect to Ryno!
BITA
Never heard that story before. Why is the wife a scumbag?
swanhenge
She was banging Palmiero
Goose
Chris sale pitcher more innings last year than the previous three years combined. How many times has that happened?
baseball-reference.com/players/s/salech01.shtml
MRSHOWTIME
Imagine a top 2 of Sale n Crotchet
With that offense, that’s a team that can play w anyone in a 5 or 7 game series
MRSHOWTIME
And Dave Martinez
cwsOverhaul
And allegedly another teammate/current manager in NL East.
william-2
That is the first time I have ever heard anyone refer to Giolito as good in recent memory. He came into the league as the single worst starter in major league baseball in 2018. He improved into a 3.50ish ERA pitcher for a couple of years (4 years ago) then slid into a high 4+ ERA and completely collapsed in 2023.
For two years he was a solid mid to lower rotation piece on a bad team. On a good team he would have been a 4 or even a 5 instantly.
30 Parks
Not a bad deal. Not a great deal. Would have preferred Eovaldi.
desertdawg
I wonder if he notified the Dodgers he was going to sign elsewhere, or there has been no conversation with Dodger management concerning his contract and everyone in Dodger management just figure he would sign with LA.before ST. Makes me wonder now about Hernandez re-signing with LA now, are the Dodgers just assuming that their FA’s are going to sign just because they are LA.
highflyballintorightfield
Dodgers didn’t give him the QO, so they obviously weren’t willing to give him this much. Just a case of the Red Sox valuing him more highly; nothing the Dodgers could have done in this case.
JoeBrady
30 Parks
Not a bad deal. Not a great deal. Would have preferred Eovaldi.
===========================
I’d have liked that as well, but that was when I thought Eovaldi was going to get like $40-44M/2. $75M/3, for a guy his age, is pretty high.
Goose
YAY!!!! Full throttle is now Full Cripple!!!!
lucas0622
Am I crazy for thinking this is a lot? Buehler has had a good career but didnt look great coming off TJS last year
Joemo
It is a lot. It’s essentially the QO. Buehler has more upside than most of the pitchers in this tier (Manaea, Flahrety) but also looked the worst last year. The recovery from TJ seemed harder than expected, as I believe he was pushing to come back in 2023 and just couldn’t do it.
If Buehler magically regains his 2021 form, it’ll look like a great deal. If he looks like his 2024 self, it will look like a massive overpay.
soxintwo
But at the same time, people are whining that Henry should overpay for Burnes!
A one year overpay is better than a five-year overpay And that’s assuming an eight year contract and he’s good for three maybe four of those years. And by the way, don’t get me wrong. I think they probably should do it, but it will be a four or five year overpay in the end so this Bueller contract to me is not an issue.
Otto371
Probably is but the cost of pitching is crazy in FA and if it fails, who cares it’s just a 1 year deal. Most teams would pay a premium to keep the contract length short.
Joemo
They needed an actual top of the rotation arm, not another rehab project.
They’ve done this for years and every year the rotation is lacking because the rehab projects never work out.
BITA
If the Red Sox had kept their own rehab project last year instead of trading him away they probably would have made the playoffs.
metsin4
Except for the 4 World championships and playoff opportunities they have had the last twenty years.
Joemo
Even though it’s the same owners, there has been a drastic shift in mentality from those 4 WS teams to now. They don’t care about winning, and haven’t since around 2018.
BITA
And here comes the entitlement…..
all in the suit that you wear
It looks like one year contracts cost a little more.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
He had a lot of teams interested. They were thinking like BOS. He is an excellent Lower Risk High Reward candidate
Brick House Coffee Tables Inc
It’s an overpay to not have the do the player option in the second year nonsense. And since the Dodgers did not give Bueller a QO, does that mean that if he pitches well that the Red Sox can??
I don’t understand why Pivetta rejected the QO. Which contender is left to give him even 3/50 and give up draft picks?
JoeBrady
That’s what I like about this signing. We can QO him next year.
IRT Pivetta, several other similar SPs are hauling in $60M, so I expect to see him get paid. I think teams are waiting on Sasaki, and then Burnes will get traction, and then after that, the 2nd tier guys will see some action.
cwsOverhaul
Toronto is a spot unless they suddenly increase their offer for Burnes to 275-300mil or give Santander an ill-advised 5yrs 9 figure deal that will be well above bids of clubs they’d rather join.
metsin4
I think the Sox have a really good shot at winning their division this year. Loaded offense and vastly better pitching.
raz427
Great signing for Boston.. They’ll get a bulldog on the mound and isn’t scared of the big moment. Disappointed is an understatement but this is a business as much as it is a game. Best of luck to Walker and thanks for the memories as a Dodger.
Mikenmn
This could be a very good signing. He might show as he did in the post-season. If it goes bad, they can always put him in the bullpen, and it’s just a year. If it goes well, both he and the Red Sox profit. The Mets just gave Manaea $75M/3. He’s probably better–but this is a decent gamble
Poolhalljunkies
Great deal only 1 year but massive upside sure better than committing 250 mil to burnes since a deal like that would be used as an excuse down the road
CheapBloom
I think this solidifies their rotation now, which means they aren’t pursuing Burnes anymore. Will be interesting to see if they make a big move for a right handed bat now, or if they are done. Hopefully the former.
Big whiffa
No more talk of casas being traded, moving devers to first or signing Bregman now the rotation is full
MRSHOWTIME
After Crochet ( and he has some potential issues too ) there is a lot of uncertainty and question marks.
IF THEY think this rotation is full/ complete, they have no intention of winning the division and praying n playing for a WC
178iq
Another player that wouldn’t sign with the Yankees? Or did they not even bother? Maybe they offered him Stroman ?
metsin4
Why would the Yankees need another starter?
Brick House Coffee Tables Inc
The Yankees are trying to unload Stroman, and if they succeed they will need another starter at that point. But I don’t think anyone wants Stroman even for free if they have to take his entire salary. Maybe the Nationals or if the A’s still have to add salary to hit their $105M payroll to qualify for revenue sharing.
StreakingBlue
Damn Dodgers
❤️ MuteButton
Is Bregman to the Red Sox next, or does that wrap up the spending for the year?
Red Sox Restoration Project
Red Sox only sign guys they can “fix.” Hence restoration project. I think this is one of their better ones, let’s see
aapimentel
Mr. Buehler…God bless you and your family. You were always at your best when it counted most.
BBSmoke
Not a bad signing at all for them imo. Should be fine following the surgery for the season. Plus those one year prove it deals tend to be well rewarded.
Motor City Beach Bum
Luzardo, Manea, Buehler. Here comes the run on pitchers following the big run on 1B. Last minute Christmas shoppers! Next up OFers!
differentbears
Two World Series titles, big games pitched by the best big game pitcher the Dodgers have had since Hershiser.
Gonna miss him. But it’s a helluva way for him to finish his time here. Big Game Buehler. Buetane. Walker F’ing Buehler.
Enjoy him, Red Sox fans. He’s a fun guy to have on your team.
birdland410
Massive overpay
I would have liked him on the orioles but I was thinking 10-13 mill
JV
Paging Mr. Bailey……Mr Andrew Bailey please step forward and receive your pet project for 2025! I think Buehler will pitch well for Boston….
whyhayzee
This is a seriously excellent move!
Now get a right handed bat and a closer.
unglar
Really wanted the Yankees or Mets to take a flyer on him, I bet this ends up being one of the better signings this offseason. His ceiling is just so high.
jakec77
I am surprised at these dollars and years that the Mets didn’t get him.
cgallant
He’ll yeah!! Huge pickup for the Sox!
Inside Out
This is why the Red Sox suck and will continue to do so. What an awful pickup. He sucked other than a few innings in the playoffs. Such a bad organization
WideWorldofSports
ferris better
ColoradoSox
Well, I believe the Sox are now “out” on Burnes, but I have been wrong before. Everything I am reading suggests that Crochet is a “potential” number 1 starter, but as of now it looks like they have several number 2s or 3s with 1 potential. Overall, I like the signing particularly as it is only 1 year.. They still have some money left for the right handed bat. If they get that, 90 plus wins next year.
hitman32
21+ million to this guy…FO could of used that toward signing a useful pitcher like Flaherty. WTH
S_man_2014
If he can stay healthy, this is a good signing. However, outside of Bryan Bello, is there a starting pitcher on the current Red Sox roster that doesn’t have a history of arm injuries? Guess they are out or were never really serious about signing Corbin Burnes.
DarrenDreifortsContract
21 million is a lot for an injury prone pitcher who is going to give you an era over 4.
RickEO
Great pickup
jmi1950
Love this. If he is as good as I think he will be , hopefully the Sox will have the inside track to extend him — if not, they make him a QO and get a draft pick.
avenger65
Bello, Giolito, Buehler and Crochet sounds like a pretty good rotation to me.
dbdmack
Houck?
itsmeheyhii
June 2023 to May 2024 doesnt seem like two years.
olmtiant
Well if he pitches like he did vs Yankees in WS… great!!
wvsteve
They need to get Teoscar and they will have had a very good off season
swanhenge
Would’ve preferred Flaherty on 3/75ish deal, but we do love our one-and-done contracts. I like all the upside on this deal. Plus Buehler adds some experience to the staff, for what that’s worth. It’s a young group. I’m fine w this deal.
Interested to see which RH bat they get. And probably could use a closer to stack w Whit, Chapman and Hendricks.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Since the article mentions him, I am getting the sense that the two would be mega contract Free Agents who will prove to be the odd men out and have to settle for heavily discounted deals will be Alonso and Burnes.
Not sure why with Burnes, but I feel like the hype around him has severely cooled off and he could be looking at a far more modest contract in the grand scheme of things.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it will still be very lucrative- like 4 years/$130M or 5 years/$175M or something, but those 6 years/$210M or 7 years/$245M etc projections might now be a bit excessive, going by the market.
Alonso is, I think, in a very similar position, but he could be looking at like 1 year/$30M or 2 years/$50M or maybe 5 years/$125M at best…. and going by the deals signed by Carlos Santana and Paul Goldschmidt, the league might very well be like “1 year $12.25M take it or leave it, Alonso.”
chemfinancing
Agree with what you are saying here
Old York
Red Sox liked how he played well in New York, so they’re hoping to have him pitch in New York more often. Line him up for every Yankee stadium game. Between him and the Yankee defense, they’ll win every game. Can’t wait for Cole to not cover 1B again!
dankyank
That’s a shock! I did not expect the Red Sox to actually spend money. Can’t wait for the first Cole – Buehler pitching matchup.
chemfinancing
This makes me know Burnes is about to break the bank. He’s got SFG written all over him at this point or maybe LAA as my second guess
olmtiant
Didn’t Beckett have a 5 plus era for 2006?? Worth a shot… cause we all know how Becketts. 2007 was!!!
Steve E.
Good luck, dude. Dodger fans will forever remember that save in Game 5 against the Yanks.
Niekro floater
That last inning of gm 5 WS is the best Buehler looked post TJ surgery. Like Buehler, but didn’t look the same all season long. Coming back frm TJ is not automatic n this was his 2nd one. Not surprised he couldn’t find longterm deal. If he can pitch like he did before, was Dodgers #1 starter for cpl playoff runs, then he may silence the doubters n secure big contract.
Rsox
Expensive pillow contract but if the Buehler that pitched in the World Series shows up it’s worth it
dbdmack
Red Sox Trainers must be on the verge of quitting.
Dodgerfan75
Good for walker! Thanks for everything walker. Good luck and may your stuff return.
HalosHeavenJJ
The upside play of the offseason.
tff17
I’m in the middle of the comments I see above…
While Buehler in his prime would have been the second best pitcher in the rotation, easily better than Houck, I don’t think that is a realistic expectation for 2025. If I’m feeling pessimistic, I slot him behind a healthy Houck and a healthy Bello. If I’m a little more optimistic, I acknowledge that he might be a little better than Bello. I see him as replacing Pivetta. I can live with that.
Note that the $21.05M that they are paying him is exactly what they offered Pivetta (Pivetta declined) and exactly what the Dodgers *didn’t* offer Buehler. If he pitches well, they tender him a qualifying offer next year, and either he returns on another short deal or the Red Sox pick up draft compensation. It’s a low-cost and low-risk deal.
What this *doesn’t* accomplish is to “raise the ceiling”. You could argue that Crochet did that, however the Red Sox don’t project to be within 5 wins of either the Yankees or Orioles. Without any big signings, they were never going to compete for the division in 2025. “Full Throttle” last year never materialized. “Raise the Ceiling” this year is equally an illusion. This is a club that will likely be slugging it out with the Mariners and Royals for that last Wild Card spot. It is not a team that has any realistic hope of playing deep into October.
Bregman is maybe the only impact player left on the board, and he wouldn’t improve the team by THAT much. For that matter, I’d rather blow $250M on Burnes than $200M on Bregman. Neither contract will look good in five years, but at least Burnes has a chance to be a difference-maker over the next four. Bregman just isn’t that great a player.
So I guess we’re looking forward to another 81-85 win season? And rooting for Henry to make a fat profit that he can invest in the PGA or whatever other interests the FSG is pursuing? I dunno, I’ll save my money and let others cheer for that one. I’m not willing to spend money at Fenway to enrich owners that refuse to invest in their product.
all in the suit that you wear
I think it may be as simple as they refuse to sign players to contracts they are pretty confident will be underwater roughly half way through the deal. Maybe they will be willing to do that for a player that they think is a missing piece to a championship team.
tff17
I don’t deny that is their logic, but hoping to put together a championship team WITHOUT signing elite free agents is a tall task. Especially when you let your homegrown stars walk (or trade them away).
It seems pretty clear the Red Sox don’t intend to go past the luxury tax threshold, which puts them at least $60M in payroll behind their competition. You may think the Yankees are not spending wisely, but when you spend an extra $60M every year you don’t HAVE to spend wisely.
all in the suit that you wear
The Red Sox have extended homegrown and I think they will continue to do that. I don’t think we can read more into things than they don’t like signing deals they think are bad.
tff17
..and that they don’t intend to be serious contenders in 2025. As you note above, you operate differently when you intend to contend. Looking at 81 to 85 wins. Guess that’s an improvement over 78?
swanhenge
Adding Bregman will improve the defense which was one of their biggest issues last year. I would appreciate the glove for sure and his bat would play fine.
They need to find a taker for Masa. That might be the key move of the off season. It would clear so many options and increase Bregmans value.
tff17
Yes, Bregman would help. Just don’t think it is enough to close the gap with the Orioles or Yankees.
all in the suit that you wear
Agreed. I don’t think Bregman fits unless they trade Yoshida or Casas which would allow Devers to move DH or 1B. Hopefully, Devers can move to DH. That may be better for his shoulders.
Salzilla
I think this is good deal for the Sox and I had a feeling Walker was getting something like this. He needs to prove full health and get to being the pitcher he was consistently. If he can, a bigger payday awaits.
Still, seeing him settle for less AVV than what a lesser pitcher (imo) Sean Manaea just got feels odd. Granted he had a better season, but does anyone think he’s really better than Bueller?
Reyday
It’s not much less, with deferrals on Manaea contract it brings the AAV to $22,023,552. Walker is a bigger question mark going into the year but has a higher ceiling and lower floor.
Salzilla
Wrote this before the deferrals were announced. Closer now for sure.
BlueSkies_LA
And the Dodgers sacrifice a draft pick. Turns out Friedman doesn’t always get it right.
Reyday
Buehler would have probably accepted then most likely and might of ruled out a Kershaw return. Honestly can’t be that upset would have only been basically a 5th round pick anyway.
JoeBrady
There is no way to tell what He’d have signed for had the QO been attached. It’s almost guaranteed to be less than the $21M he got.
BronxBombers23
Crochet is a great pitcher, Bello is highly overrated, Giolito is garbarge, Houck is solid and Buehler is full of question marks. Good luck with that rotation
KnicksFanCavsFan
Good move by the “idle empire.” They can catch lighting in a bottle, and if he sucks, we’ll it’s just money. They can move him into the bullpen, and who knows what might happen.
DirtyWater04
Apparently I’m in the minority but I think this is a great move. I’m all for it.
FanDan
1 year for $21M. Cease is available for 1 year at $14M. Preller must be asking for a lot in a trade.
DirtyWater04
Buehler only cost money. Cease is going to cost prospects. Any of those prospects hit and you’re going to lose way more than $7 million worth of production.
FanDan
Cease has more value than Buehler.
JoeBrady
Love this move. I don’t even like Buehler, but in today’s market, I thought he’d be looking at $60M/3+. It’s a guessing game, but I am guessing that he will look more like the 2024 playoff Buehler than the regular season. TJS takes some throwing to get over.
And this looks 100% like Buehler is betting on himself, and I like that. There is a solid chance at a QO next year.
DirtyWater04
I agree. His regular season had some warts but he was coming back from a lengthy injury, that always involves having to shake off some rust to get your sea legs back under you. He was great in the playoffs and one thing that caught my attention was he was talking after his world series start and he had mentioned how focused he’d been on staying within himself and learning to maximize his effectiveness with the pitches he had in his repertoire and not just going out there trying to pump 100 every single pitch. So one, I really like his mindset. Two, I think some of the younger guys on the staff like Bello in particular could really learn a lot spending time around a guy taking an approach like that, and three it’s a short term bet on a guy who is in turn betting on himself. If we are wrong, it is better to be wrong small like this than to be wrong big on a guy with a 7 year deal. But if we are right, we will have a guy who will be pitching on par with one of those guys who get 7 year deals.
Bosox2013
At the end of the day it’s a move and he isn’t cheap but man….. Burnes is out there and they have plenty of CBT wiggle room but they are unwilling to commit to the big contract. Hopefully Burnes is just holding out for money on the west coast.
DirtyWater04
I wanted Burnes too, but (and this is still a sizable “but”) if their approach is to spend at a similar overall level to what they would’ve given two or three ultra high end guys, but spread it around more, I think it could result in a better team.
I.E. as you mention there is still plenty of room in the budget…could be a sign that Bregman and/or Teoscar Hernandez are still to come…Plus they will need to clear an outfield spot for Roman Anthony once he’s ready, so don’t be surprised to see Wilyer Abreu used to help go get even more pitching, or perhaps to fetch a different catching prospect to replace Teel since the organizational depth is quite thin there now.
Now that they have gone and gotten two legit high quality arms, I feel comfortable in declaring it’s safe to say we are not done yet.
JoeBrady
Burnes is likely looking for Fried money. I’d rather pay Buehler $21M than $200M/8+ for Burnes.
derail76
Buehler has been my favorite Dodgers pitcher since his debut. Really sad to see him change uniforms. I don’t know if there was a better way to end his Dodgers career though. I really hope he can stay healthy, the guy is an absolute bulldog, and when he’s on, he’s fun to watch. No moment is too big for that guy.
AK sox fan
If they are not strong contenders at the trade deadline they will flip him for a young arm with years of control…..I think pitchers are way to vulnerable to be signed for long term contacts they are dropping like flies heading to the knife and lost for two years of the contact.. Better off getting one that just had the surgery and hopping he pans out.
Sox67
I may be wrong, but I think this is a good pick up.
Hopefully he goes 20-5 era 2.75