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Rays Notes: Boyle, Springs Trade, Shortstop, Soto

By Mark Polishuk | December 15, 2024 at 12:44pm CDT

The Rays swung a prominent trade with the Athletics yesterday, bringing in three players and a Competitive Balance Round draft pick in exchange for left-handers Jeffrey Springs and Jacob Lopez.  Tampa president of baseball operations Erik Neander told MLB.com’s Adam Berry and other reporters that the decision to move Springs was “really, really difficult,” and that the trade was “a situation where the A’s really stepped forward and really wanted Jeffrey.”

On paper, it was widely assumed that the Rays would be dealing from their rotation depth this winter, with Springs and Zack Littell viewed as the likeliest trade candidates since they were the two highest-paid of the rotation candidates.  The surplus is still technically in place since they still have six starters (Shane McClanahan, Shane Baz, Ryan Pepiot, Taj Bradley, Drew Rasmussen, and Littell) on the roster, plus now Joe Boyle acquired in the Springs trade.  Berry writes that that despite all these available arms, the Rays aren’t expected to trade any more starting pitching.

“Right now, we’re looking at more starters than we have rotation spots and kind of navigating the different ways to resolve that while also knowing you can never have enough,” Neander said.

Boyle has big league experience in the form of 63 2/3 innings with the A’s over the last two seasons, but of the seven potential starters, he seems like the clearest candidate to begin the season in Triple-A.  The hard-throwing Boyle has battled his control in both the major and minors, and Neander suggested that the Rays view him as a bit of a work in progress, with plenty of potential.

“Joe Boyle is somebody that has the physicality and the stuff to fit at the front of the rotation,” Neander said.  “I think there’s signs of progress on the strike-throwing, and he doesn’t need to be a sharpshooter to be really effective….The upside, I think, is something that warrants great patience when it comes to his development.”

Trading from the rotation depth was one of the top checkpoints on Tampa’s offseason to-do list, and it remains to be seen what else Neander has in store to upgrade the roster ahead of what will be an unconventional season at George M. Steinbrenner Field rather than Tropicana Field.  In terms of lineup help, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times feels the Rays will mostly look within their organization, but they could add outfield depth and the team is “at least open to a more offensive-oriented shortstop.”

Since Wander Franco’s time with the Rays is almost surely over, Taylor Walls is penciled in as the starting shortstop, and Walls is still looking for a breakout at the plate.  Over parts of four MLB seasons, Walls has hit only .188/.288/.293 over 1243 plate appearances — Walls’ 71 wRC+ is the fourth-lowest of any player with at least 1000 PA since Opening Day 2021.

What Walls brings to the table is glovework, though public defensive metrics aren’t unanimous in their approval of Walls’ work at shortstop.  The Outs Above Average metrics has given him negative grades in each of the last three seasons and he drew negative UZR/150 scores in 2022 and 2023 before a huge +15.3 UZR/150 last season.  The Defensive Runs Saved metric, meanwhile, has given Walls +35 DRS over his 1983 2/3 career innings at shortstop.

The Rays seem to lean more towards the DRS view, as Topkin notes that the club has a “fervid appreciation” for Walls’ glovework.  As such, a trade offer or free agent opportunity would have to pass “a high bar” to inspire Tampa Bay to reduce Walls’ playing time.  Any kind of acquisition at shortstop would also be a short-term add anyway, since top prospect Carson Williams could be in line to make his MLB debut at some point later in the 2025 season.

Still, Neander and his front office can never be ruled out for making a creative move.  We saw evidence of this in early November when reports indicated that the Rays were one of the many teams who had been in contact with Juan Soto at the opening of the free agent market.  The check-in was perhaps largely but due diligence, but Topkin reports that “the Rays pitched a short-term deal…supposedly with opt-outs after each season.”

It is probably safe to assume that this offer didn’t gain much traction within Soto’s camp, but there was no harm in floating a unique offer Soto’s way to see if there was any interest.  It was just last season that several other Scott Boras clients signed shorter-term, player option-heavy contracts after not finding the long-term deals they were hoping to land in free agency, though there was much less chance that Soto would come up short in his bid for a record-setting contract.

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  1. julyn82001

    7 months ago

    A’s ran out of patience with Boyle who has the potential for sure – he is just raw – but now a real second chance is there for Joe to step in and prove – yet again – true value…

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    • BITA

      7 months ago

      Yes because lord knows a team that has been bad for years, never spends any money and is playing in a minor league park the next few years shouldn’t be patient.

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      • fishco

        7 months ago

        Other than the bad part, this describes both teams

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    • towinagain

      7 months ago

      And again the Poverty Private Eqhity Padres aren’t making moves.

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      • towinagain

        7 months ago

        *Equity

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        • tikiagedola

          7 months ago

          Do you have to mention the Padres in every single article?

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      • towinagain

        7 months ago

        Eric Kutsenda

        Eric Kutsenda

        Eric Kutsenda

        Spend some money Kutsenda.

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        • padrepapi

          7 months ago

          Some would argue Preller did his best work when he was on a budget last off-season and had to get creative. He cut payroll by 75m, lost the CY winner, the reliever who landed the biggest RP contract of all time, and moved Soto, to say nothing of guys like Lugo and Wacha who were great and had excellent years, yet managed to win 12 more games in the process. A lot of Anti-Preller folk changed their tunes because of all that. Though there is one poster that keeps harping on the haul they gave up for Cease, which I wouldn’t be surprised if Preller could beat today easily considering Zavala and the reliever stunk, Irate lost a ton of whiffs and Thorpe needed surgery.

          You know Preller is going to make some moves, I just hope when that time comes we get fanboy tow coming out banging the hell out of the drum and not the same early winter version we’re all living with on each and every unrelated Padre post.

          I know opening day is less than 5 months away… wait?!

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        • towinagain

          7 months ago

          My beef isn’t with Preller.

          Preller is a stud.

          My problem is the dimishing resources he has been given to work with by the private equity group running the Padres.

          Preller can only do so much with what he has been given.

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  2. tikiagedola

    7 months ago

    Enough is enough. Make one of the Florida teams the first Mexico team.No one cares about either of them now

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  3. BigGargamel

    7 months ago

    Rays contacting Soto is like me contacting Sydney Sweeney. Sure, I’ll be laughed out of the building, but technically it’s something I can do.

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    • tikiagedola

      7 months ago

      You are saying she is better than you, and you put p&ssy on a pedastel?

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      • TheGr8One

        7 months ago

        You are a troll of the first order congrats I’ve never handed out that specific title

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  4. Loud Noises!

    7 months ago

    So…. Was it a really really good deal?

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  5. juggernaut

    7 months ago

    Carson Williams will be ready to start at SS in 2025 when the Rays deem him ready and can save that extra year of control. Walls as a defensive SS until they bring him up make perfect sense. There is no reason to change the course there.

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    • bwmiller79

      7 months ago

      The Rays have two good utility infielders, Caballero and Caminero, and a few nice pair of infield prospects, Williams, Isaacs and Simpson who came over in the trade with Oakland.

      Ian Seymour projects to replace Jeffrey Springs for the Rays, a lefty with a similar repetoire, this trade allows Seymour to continue to develop, the Rays also get a nice project in Boyle, and a pretty solid IF/OF prospect in Simpson. A compensatory selection in the ’25 draft is sweet icing to this cake. A’s gave up a lot.

      But the A’s got a nice SP, good trade for both teams.

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    • Rays in the Bay

      7 months ago

      There is every reason to move on from walls. You can’t win if you can’t score runs and this lineup is awful. Expect an automatic strikeout or groundout when he comes to the plate.

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  6. alwaysgo4two

    7 months ago

    What the Rays Neander means that it was very, very difficult to keep him because he was making outrageous money.

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  7. Informed Sportsball Discussion

    7 months ago

    “It is probably safe to assume that this offer didn’t gain much traction within Soto’s camp…”

    That’s no more ridiculous than the idea Boras was ready to sign any deal directly with Peter Seidler, but golly gee willikers, Seidler dying just got in the way.

    Give Boras truth serum and ask him what that magic number was, the number that would convince THE super agent to advise arguably his most lucrative client ever to forego a bidding war. All because Seidler was just such a swell guy.

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  8. Rsox

    7 months ago

    “Since Wander Franco’s time with the Rays is almost surely over”

    After 28 of the 31 people scheduled to testify against him failed to appear in Court Franco seems to think he’ll play again. And i quote; “i did not ‘had’ a career”, “this is not over”

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    • geno711

      7 months ago

      If the assumption is that Wander Franco not being convicted in the Dominican Republic means he will be able to play MLB again, I strongly disagree with you and that assumption.

      Franco’s own Whats App confirmed he was having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old when he was 21 years old.

      MLB’s Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault, and Child Abuse Policy mandates that they take an absolute stand against such misconduct, regardless of the outcomes of the Dominican legal proceedings.

      If you see if different, let me know.

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      • Rsox

        7 months ago

        No. I fully believe he will never set foot on an MLB field again, nor should he. Those quotes are from an interview with him that can be found at ESPN.com where HE seems to think he’ll play again

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        • geno711

          7 months ago

          Got it. Thanks for the clarification, my friend.

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        • bwmiller79

          7 months ago

          It is a difficult situation, Franco being so young himself. 21 is a difficult age.

          I don’t care to speculate about his guilt or his innocence but I will say the Rays fans missed him, and the whole story is unfortunate.

          I believe that the law handles these cases better than any other governing body. Unfortunately even when you are found innocent, the courts ruling may never clear your name, and the court of public opinion will always have its doubts about your character. When there is money involved, it gets ugly. In this world we live in, money can motivate people to behave in malicious ways.

          I root for Franco to get back on the field. If he is cleared of these charges and this dilemma, hopefully he can refocus himself and hope he gets an opportunity to play again, whether in MLB or in Nippon or KBO.

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        • geno711

          7 months ago

          nwmiller79.

          There are certainly situations where there are false accusations and well known people lose in the court of public opinion instead of in an actual court of law. So generally, I tend to agree with you that many cases, we should wait and see what the justice system says.

          But that does not mean that every time, we have to rely only on the court system.

          A couple things are true and without question in this instance.

          1. The 21 year old Franco did have sex with a 14 year old girl.

          and

          2. MLB has a policy in place that does not require a conviction. The MLB policy would consider a 21 year old baseball player having sex with a 14 year as qualifying as sexual abuse of a minor.

          Whether you want him to play baseball in the MLB or I would prefer that he does not, I think it is evident that he will not be allowed to play in MLB no matter what occurs in a Dominican Republic court.

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        • Rsox

          7 months ago

          Japan will not touch him with a 10ft pole. Not sure about the KBO. His only chance at affiliated ball is maybe Mexico, an independent league somewhere or maybe the DR has a penal league he can play in while he serves his time

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        • bwmiller79

          7 months ago

          I don’t care to rehash it with you Geno. It’s not my place to discuss anybody’s personal life. I wish Franco well, I imagine it is a difficult time for him.

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  9. Rays in the Bay

    7 months ago

    What is Neander smoking? What does Taylor Walls have on the Rays? Lewd photos? A document of illegal transactions?

    Any FA is better than Walls, period. No other team would sign him except the Rays.

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  10. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    7 months ago

    “Meanwhile” has to START the sentence. It’s not supposed to come in the middle, separated by commas.

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