The Pirates announced the acquisition of first baseman/second baseman Spencer Horwitz from the Guardians for a three-player package: righty Luis Ortiz and left-handed pitching prospects Josh Hartle and Michael Kennedy. Cleveland dealt Horwitz within hours of acquiring him from the Blue Jays in this afternoon’s Andrés Giménez deal.
Horwitz, 27, looks as if he’ll get a crack at Pittsburgh’s starting first base job. He would’ve been an imperfect fit on a Cleveland team that already has Josh Naylor and Kyle Manzardo. There’s a much clearer path to playing time in Pittsburgh. The Bucs used Rowdy Tellez as their primary first baseman for most of the ’24 season. He didn’t perform well and was cut loose at the end of the year.
The lefty-hitting Horwitz has shown offensive promise both in Triple-A and the big leagues. He turned in an impressive .265/.357/.433 batting line over 381 plate appearances this year. Horwitz picked up 12 homers and 19 doubles while showing excellent strike zone awareness. He walked at an 11% clip while striking out 18.4% of the time.
Horwitz has a stellar minor league track record. He’s a career .316/.433/.471 hitter with nearly as many walks as strikeouts in 208 Triple-A games. He clearly has offensive ability, but he’s yet to get a full MLB run because of a lack of defensive value. Horwitz has been a first baseman for most of his minor league career. His 5’10” frame and hit-over-power approach are rare at that position. Toronto used him as part of their second base mix as well, but teams don’t seem to view him as an everyday player there.
The Bucs don’t have a great option at second base either. Nick Gonzales is the in-house favorite on the heels of a pedestrian .270/.311/.398 showing. The Pirates will probably stick with Gonzales at the keystone and use Horwitz at first, but the latter is at least capable of kicking over to second base as a fill-in option.
Horwitz has yet to reach a full year of MLB service. He’s under club control for six years. He’ll very likely be eligible for arbitration after two seasons as a Super Two qualifier, but the Bucs will get a couple years of what they hope is a plug-and-play first baseman on roughly league minimum salaries. It’s questionable whether Horwitz has sufficient power to profile as an everyday option. If he hits his ceiling, he’d probably project as a LaMonte Wade Jr. type who gets on base enough to be a solid regular. Pittsburgh’s first-year hitting coach Matt Hague worked for Toronto in recent years and is surely bullish on Horwitz’s offensive acumen.
Ortiz is the only member of the trio heading to Cleveland who has MLB experience. The 25-year-old righty has pitched in a swing role over the past couple years. Ortiz struggled over his first two seasons but turned in a quietly strong ’24 campaign. He started 15 of 37 appearances and logged 135 2/3 innings of 3.32 ERA ball. Ortiz managed solid results no matter what role he was asked to play. He turned in a 3.22 mark out of the rotation while allowing 3.49 earned runs per nine in relief.
The underlying profile didn’t match the strong ERA. Ortiz neither gets ground-balls nor strikeouts at high rates. His 8.8% swinging strike percentage was well below average. To his credit, Ortiz did take a major step forward with his control this year. After walking at least 12% of opponents in his first two seasons, he limited the free passes to a 7.6% clip.
Ortiz will have a tough time repeating this year’s success unless he finds a way to miss more bats. That’s not out of the question, as he has intriguing raw stuff. Ortiz sits in the 95-96 MPH range with both his four-seam and sinking fastball. He found a lot of success with a mid-80s slider that served as his top secondary offering. If he can sustain this year’s command while finding a better swing-and-miss pitch, he’d have a shot to be a mid-rotation arm. If not, he could find himself back in the bullpen as a long reliever.
The Guardians have a solid track record of pitching development, but they’re thin in the rotation for the second straight season. Tanner Bibee is the only lock for their season-opening rotation. Gavin Williams and Ben Lively will probably occupy back-end roles. Ortiz has a decent shot of cracking the front five, which would also include one of Triston McKenzie, Logan Allen or Joey Cantillo if they don’t make any further additions. Shane Bieber re-signed and could factor in by May or June as he works back from Tommy John surgery.
It’s still a relatively weak group, but the Guardians papered over a poor rotation by relying on a dominant bullpen this past season. While they’ll likely need to do so again, Cleveland could add at least one more starter via free agency or trade. Pittsburgh has a lot of upper level pitching talent, so Ortiz would’ve had an uphill battle to hold off arms like Thomas Harrington and Bubba Chandler for a rotation spot.
Ortiz lands between one and two service years. He’s at least one season from arbitration and could find himself on the border of Super Two eligibility next winter. Regardless of whether he gets to arbitration early, he won’t become a free agent for five seasons.
The Bucs also pay a bit of a prospect price to even the deal. Hartle was Pittsburgh’s third-round pick this summer. The Wake Forest product entered the spring as a potential first-round talent before struggling to a 5.97 ERA in his junior season.
Baseball America wrote in their draft report that Hartle has good command with fringy stuff. He sits in the low 90s with roughly average secondary pitches. It’s not the highest-upside profile on paper, but this is the type of arm with whom the Guardians’ player development department has thrived. Bibee and Bieber were also command-oriented college draftees whose stuff didn’t take off until they got into pro ball. While that’s certainly not a guarantee that Hartle will progress the same way, it’s not a surprise that he’s of interest to Cleveland.
Kennedy, 20, was a fourth-round pick out of a New York high school in 2023. He made 18 appearances in the low minors this year, working to a 3.66 ERA with a near-28% strikeout rate over 83 2/3 frames. As with Hartle, he draws praise for his athleticism and control but has subpar velocity. They’re each developmental fliers who have a shot to stick as starters if their stuff comes along.
Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic first reported the Pirates were acquiring Horwitz. Mark Feinsand of MLB.com had the return going to Cleveland. Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet suggested earlier this evening that Horwitz might end up being flipped to Pittsburgh. Images courtesy of USA Today Sports.
Kk 4
Wut
Goku the Knowledgable One
Pirates 1B solution
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I like the trades for Blue Jays and Pirates, not so much for Guardians. Guardians are pretty smart though….
RagingFE
Dang, I was kind up on Horwitz for the Guards. Hope the return is worth it.
PTkirk
Return is Ortiz Hartle and a random milb sp prospect
mlb1225
Kennedy is pretty good, he did great last year and could be the best of those three.
Chrome 8550
Hardle no.17 on pirates Luis Ortiz and Mike kennedy.
paddyo furnichuh
That seems like a lot for just Horwitz, as impressive as his ’24 season was.
PTkirk
Yeah Ortiz is a great get by cleveland
Goku the Knowledgable One
Luis L. Ortiz showed he’s a big league starter
The way Cleveland gets the most out of their SPs, this could end up being a good get for them
cr4
Ortiz has all the tools to be the next Cleveland revamp project not that he was bad before but he has the tools to be a solid no. 2 and Kennedy is a fun lottery ticket with nice tools
Yankee Clipper
Might be good news for you guys though…. Perhaps Naylor won’t be moved after all.
YourDreamGM
Terrible news Clipper. You trade the more expensive soon to be free agent 1b and keep the minimum wage one!!!
Getting 3 young pitchers for a platoon 1b that you just got for absolutely free is pretty nice return. These aren’t blue chip prospects or elite or even great. A lot of odds beating needs to happen. Ortiz is a pencil in #4 though.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Dang?
calibucsfan
Good baseball trade. Kennedy and Ortiz are good arms. I was high on Kennedy.
Jonathan (NYSportsFan4Life)
Lol… all I gotta say. Gleyber Torres to Guardians now?
Yankee Clipper
I saw that the two teams currently leasing the Gleyber race are the Blue Jays (although I’m assuming they’re out because of Gininez?), and the ANGELS….
YourDreamGM
He is so so Angels. Perfect match
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Torres and Arenado to Angels. Where is the Riddler’s laugh when you need it?
harrycarey
I guess they will not be giving him Rowdy like incentives and then cut him before achieving them.
YourDreamGM
Minimum wage is all he gets
mlb1225
All I can say is that I’m happy. Did not think Ben could pull that off, but the Pirates might actually have a competent first baseman for the first time since Kevin Young.
dpcollects
Adam LaRoche was definitely “competent”.
YourDreamGM
This proves any gm can trade a young #4 mlb ready starter and 2 additional pitching prospects for a platoon 1b. Lets not build the Cherington statue yet.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Same day huh
Why didn’t Cleveland just use horwitz for a year and then let bazanna do his thing in 2026?
FartJesus
Because now they add two potential starters that have stalled in another system. And Cleveland develops pitchers better than most. And that’s for a 1b prospect with little power.
Col_chestbridge
I’m thinking they’re planning on using Juan Brito and/or Gabriel Arias at 2B this year.
stymeedone
Because Horwitz is not a 2B. He is a 1B. Cleveland has better options.
Salzilla
Because Horwitz is a 1b by trade. Toronto was playing him out of position to get him in the lineup.
YourDreamGM
It would be like your team trading woo and 2 20 to 30 range prospects. How could Cleveland say no?
Diggydugler
What the hell is Atkins doing!
YourDreamGM
Taking on 23m a year that Cleveland is thrilled to dump, hoping Gimenez doesn’t slow down. Oh and giving away a 1b capable of getting a #4 young starter and 2 prospects just for the heck of it.
wvsteve
Even fair for both sides. Ortiz may have been pirates second best starter at the end of the year. Pirates finally got a young controlable side first baseman. Hopefully they make some real noise in right
This one belongs to the Reds
Interesting deal. Good for both, I think.
solaris602
So in essence they turned Gimenez and Sandlin into Luis Ortiz? I know they need rotation help, but PIT didn’t know what to do with this guy. Somebody in the FO must see a future none of the rest of us can.
alwaysgo4two
You’ll like Ortiz, at least the second half version of him. The Pirates are overloaded in pitching, hopefully Horwitz can hit enough for a 1b.
FartJesus
No they turn Gimenez, sandlin, Horowitz, and $100million, into two pitching prospects and nick Mitchell. Which is a solid move.
You missed the guaranteed dozens of millions.
pohle
am i the only one who thinks the guards made out well here? a good young swingman and two pitchers drafted in the 3rd and 4th round of their drafts, the latter of which has been successful down on the farm, while the former was just drafted this year.
FartJesus
No, you replied to my comment that explained why the guardians got a good deal.
YourDreamGM
Ortiz isn’t a swingman. Solid #4 starter. 5th at worst.
YourDreamGM
Price for Santana must have got above 3 million. It was either sign Rowdy again or make this trade.
Salzilla
Well this makes more sense now. Dumped Gimenez’s salary and flipped Horwitz (who wasn’t needed in Cleveland) to Pittsburgh who need a 1b. Spencer was pretty decent last season. Essentially this was a three team deal in two portions.
YourDreamGM
Who needed a 1b that doesn’t cost $. They could have signed Walker… Yeah right but Goldy maybe, Santana for sure. Josh Bell shouldn’t break the bank but as Paul says, they signed Rowdy because Santana cost 2 million more..
Grr arg grr
I’m a jays fan and I’m kinda shocked
How does Spencer Horowitz have this much value.
I mean he put up a nice half season…. But this is a shocker to me!
Diggydugler
Atkins is a horrible GM, that is why.
tomyo10
Didn’t Shapiro teach him all he needs to know in Cleveland?
Ratherbesailing
I agree he is not good, but what did he do wrong on this trade?
Too many people just hate just for the sake of hate.
But if you look at the individual trade, he fid good here.
I really don’t want to give him credit, but he does get credit on this one.
Grr arg grr
Yup Jimenez had something like a 7.4 war 2 years ago and is only 26.
kwolf68
You got depth guys. Pittsburgh won’t miss any of these players
YourDreamGM
2 prospects will take elite pitching development to get anything significant out of them. So unless your team can do that they aren’t that valuable. Ortiz though is legit mlb starter. Lots of years. Pirates (who have former Jays hitting coach ) fell in love with this guy. Bit of a overpay. Hope they are as smart as they think they are.
debubba
Cleveland has Elite pitching development. Bieber and Kluber were players no one heard of and Cleveland worked their magic.
Goku the Knowledgable One
.790 OPS and never strikes out
YourDreamGM
If you combine him with Canha the Pirates will have a all star 1b
Black_Pearl
Seems like a steep give for a part-time player and Canha’s best days are behind him.
YourDreamGM
400 abs. And they could teach him to hit lhp……. Over pay I agree but not too bad.
Mike Adamson
The Pirates gave up Ortiz and 2 prospects for a guy that made a season at 27? Rather have Ortiz.
Led Hoyer
Ortiz was pretty good last year. I am stunned they had to add prospects to the deal.
Mike Adamson
Yea me too… It seems like just Ortiz was too much but you make it out of positional need.
benhen77
Guards playing 3d chess
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Nope, Toronto is playing 3D Hangry Hangry Hippo
ChefDaddy7
Seems Like A Decent Trade For Both Teams Heading Into Spring Training!
I definitely didn’t see this trade coming either, just like the first one the Guardians Pulled Off, Good For Them & the Pirates too!
Rsox
That was fast
HalosHeavenJJ
I figured the first trade would set up a Naylor trade.
Really nice day for Cleveland picking up Ortiz and freeing up cash.
Hope Pittsburgh cones out good as well.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
There go the rumors of Anthony Rizzo signing with the Pirates. Thank goodness for that. That would be awful. It would be like seeing Derek Lee in a Pirates uniform.
getrealgone2
I forgot that Lee was on the Braves. I just looked up his career. Hah
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Yeah it was a weird situation. He didn’t want to waive his no trade clause finally accepted a trade to the Braves. The following series for the cubs was against ATL at Wrigley. Then he was later traded to the Pirates (Maybe it was the following season but his first games with Pittsburgh was at Wrigley Field. Crazy how that worked out like that.
It was Baltimore that traded him to the Pirates in 2011
On a positive note he was traded from SD TO FLA for Kevin Brown.
El Kabong
Spencer for Hire.
Samuel
It’s spelled with a “s”…..like the poet.
El Kabong
I know, but it sounds the same.
TJECK109
With the price of pitching on the open market, you’d think the Pirates could have worked for more in a deal involving Ortiz who is still only 25.
Seems like an overpay by the Pirates just to say you have a 1B
Goku the Knowledgable One
They got one of the top blocked 1Bs in the MLB
(Not his fault they had Vlad Jr.)
I love this deal.
Horwitz reminds a lot of Reynolds at the plate.
I’ll take him over any of the clunky vet FAs I’ve been suggesting
YourDreamGM
Will put together a trade but it’s basically Horwitz for Ortiz. Hartle has little value. They just got him this summer. Wasn’t even drafted I believe. Someone you can get any year. Kennedy is dependent on projection and or just becoming a command master. Not a elite arm. Has value but probably a back rotation guy at best. Just have to think about how I value Ortiz. Leaning towards win win trade.
Horwitz. 1b. Doesn’t strike out. Walks. Crushed rhp at a 800 ops. Stunk vs LHP. Pirates just hired a Jays hitting coach. He should know this guy better than anyone. Sees more power coming? Cause he hasn’t hit the ball hard yet. Ability to hit LHP? Lots of team control. Interesting his home away splits. SSS or something he didn’t like. New hitting coach would know the answer.
El Kabong
For Cleveland, it’s really Gimenez for Ortiz. This is a shrewd move for a pitching-conscious organization that will also welcome Bieber back at some point.
YourDreamGM
Opps had the wrong page up. Hartle has value. More than Kennedy. More details to come….
YourDreamGM
Won’t cry over Hartle. I never seen him pitch an entire game though so not a expert on him. I do have notes on him and he’s a major project with chance of high upside. With Pirates development his value is probably at a all time high. I have no confidence of them developing him. Best used as trade chip.
I seen Kennedy though and I won’t cry over him. Nice slider but he really needs more fastball or better changeup. Pirates have better arms.
debubba
Cleveland can take guys with good command and unleash a few more miles on their fastball, which makes it average. These are the types of guys that Cleveland does well with. Control, accuracy and a decent slider are all plusses.
emptybattingavg
writing off those two prospects is a dumb, especially since Kennedy has a low velo fastball with good shape, and Guardians are one of the best teams at increasing prospect’s velo — they tend to draft low velo good FB shape guys for this very reason. Don’t undersell Ortiz, he’s probably a back end rotation guy or better with team control, and given the price of starting pitching, that means a lot. Horwitz has little power, he really is LaMonte Wade Jr at best. Pirates got fleeced.
YourDreamGM
Not dumb at all. Smart. I know the Pirates weren’t developing those 2 prospects. What Cleveland does with them is irrelevant. It’s like Glasnow Holmes. I knew they were great but they weren’t happening in Pittsburgh. These kids aren’t that but same situation, they weren’t happening in Pittsburgh.
emptybattingavg
If the pirates can’t develop pitching prospects, they should just trade all their pitching prospects for mlb ready talent. Anyways, pirates have improved their pitching development a lot in the last few years, they certainly could have developed those two guys, unlike 5 years ago. What CLE does with them is very relevant, because it indicates potential value — pirates should know how good cleveland is at developing, and then use that to gauge how CLE values the pirates prospects. They sold low on them, so I doubt they used that knowledge or thought of it.
YourDreamGM
Pirates know their value. That’s why they drafted them where they did. That’s why they are ranked in their top 20. If they thought they could get them to their ceiling though they wouldn’t make this trade. They realize how bad their development is. It’s certainly improved from 5 years ago. It went from bottom of the barrel to lower third. Much improved. Still bad.
emptybattingavg
pirates are better than lower third, and you don’t have to get a pitching prospect to their ceiling to still get value from them. Should the teams in the lower third of pitch dev just trade all their pitching prospects? I think you should consider the pirates might just have a dumb FO, how long have they been rebuilding for? and take a look at their position player talent + prospects, its dreadful even after years of rebuilding. Horwitz isn’t changing anything.
Wizcards
After looking at the prospects, guardians may easily walk away from this deal with a win. 3 guys who profile as starters in a time where fried gets 200+ million, for a platoon infielder
Samuel
They picked up a young OF prospect that hit extremely well in college and hen in his first year of pro ball.
YourDreamGM
Already a win. Cheaper to sign Santana than a #4 starter.
DarkSide830
Ortiz is a legit pickup. Very Guardians-esque addition.
El Kabong
Bieber for $10M and Ortiz for $747,500. That’s potentially great value in this pitching market.
TJECK109
Seems like an over pay by the Pirates. 25 year old SP coming off a nice season and you are adding prospects for a 27 yo 1B?
Seems like Jon Lieber for Brant Brown all over again.
rct
Kennedy seems like a solid prospect, too. Not sure about Hartle but he was a 3rd rounder just last year so presumably there’s some upside. Good move by Cleveland.
Diggydugler
It makes no sense why Atkins just do the trade straight up with Pirates and save $90Mish over the next 5 years to re-sign Vlad.
Samuel
Because he needs a SS to replace Bo Bichette who will be gone by the end of the 2025 season at the latest.
Diggydugler
Yea you dont pay 25M for a defense first SS, you can get IKF/ Goins/ Johnny mac.
HalosHeavenJJ
Exactly.
Cleveland looks great. You can argue Pittsburgh did alright. But the best part for Toronto looks to be a middle inning reliever.
debubba
Sanding was being shipped because he is turn”odd man out” in the bullpen. Easily replaceable. So in essence the guards freed up 40 man space and cut 100 million in one trade. Then turned that around and found a starter for under a million, stocked up their farm system with pitching and still have money to spend on a bat for right field. I give the guards an A for these two trades.
El Kabong
The Jays weren’t the ones talking to the Pirates. The Guardians were. All Cleveland had to do was acquire someone the Pirates would want in exchange for Ortiz. Textbook planning by a Guardians organization with an eye for pitching talent. They don’t just acquire pitchers. They look for guys they think they can make better.
YourDreamGM
I’d rather trade Vlad for all this pitching than do what Atkins did. Gets some carbs in this guy.
Canuck2
With consistent playing time Horwitz will flourish, on base machine, power may yet develope. He really was redundant on the Jays. I’m happy for him.
Guyerbassist
Wtf is Cleveland doing. Trading a contorlable gold glover for a hitter, OK bit hard to understand but ok
Then trade the hitter for… A pitcher… We’re they watching the same playoffs I was. Pitching isn’t the issue. It’s always been hitting and they screwed the pooch again. Even if the prospects turn out, the one from tor was in single A… Maybe they are Good in 5 years
Samuel
Starting pitching IS an issue. They got a young controllable one that their excellent pitching coaches can work with. They also picked up multiple prospects that will start in the minors this coming season.
They had the #1 pick in the draft this year and selected a 2B that can hit….a lot…with power. He may even by up later in the 2025 season.
Guyerbassist
I just meant that they tend to develop pitching. I knew about the 2b, but hitters normally take time to develop more than pitchers in the draft. As a rangers fan I’m looking at Langford who was good, but people in Texas were talking like he was gonna be the next big thing taken #3 a few years back.
Also is this Luis Ortiz the same Luis Ortiz that pitched for the Rangers before? I might be way off on my time line, but I remember they had somone with that name thya was a starter and he was not good lol
Guyerbassist
Edit to my last post that isn’t the same Luis Ortiz but also again I say wtf because I just realized all the players coming back from pit are pitchers??? This team is ass offensively and they traded a decent bat for 3 pitchers and an A ball outfielder.
You cant win every game 1-0 expecting your pitchers to be perfect. That was the story of the playoffs. Heart rate sky high praying the pitching didn’t make a single mistake becuase that’s game over
HalosHeavenJJ
Cleveland gave themselves some payroll room to get a hitter, which I expect they will do next.
Guyerbassist
You have faith out front office will spend money? They are too busy bringing austin hedges back lol
debubba
Pitching was the issue. They had Bibee who could only go five and then every other starter went three, exposing and tiring out the best bullpen in baseball. They now have money to spend to find another bat, hopefully a right fielder.
jdgoat
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if Matt Hague had some input on this.
YourDreamGM
Going to go with win win trade. Real win for Cleveland. They got a lot of pitching. Who gets 3 pitchers in a trade with 1 mlb ready to go? Pirates have or hard a lot of pitching. And better much more better pitching. Is a 1b the way to go with this? Cleveland is the place for these arms though. Pirates development has failed them.
Horwitz as is strong platoon all star. So was Jack Suwinski so lets hope they don’t try to “improve him” but if they don’t improve him they gave up a lot of pitching even 1 current starter. Maybe this hitting coach can teach people to hit though. Only miss will be Ortiz. At worst I think he can be your 5th starter but I feel alright with him at 4. Especially if Cleveland gets his stuff ticked up to where it could be. Pirates have pitching but there’s goes depth. They could though sign a veteran starter.
CATS44
Over a few hours, the Guardians gained a starting pitcher, two pitching prospects, a centerfield prospect, and freed up more money than they will use to pay Bieber this year. They also got out from under what at the moment looks like a future albatross contract.
Not a bad days work, although it in reality probably took weeks.
Don’t get me wrong, I think quite a lot of Gimenez, who is the best defensive 2B I’ve seen since at least Robbie Alomar. And Sandlin is a fine middle reliever.
A note on Kennedy…
A pitchability prospect with plus command is the raw material that Cleveland builds pitching staffs out of.
El Kabong
I love stuff like this. The Guardians must have put a lot of thought and planning into this off-season. It’s impressive how they orchestrated the flip so quickly to acquire a pitcher they really wanted.
Big whiffa
It’s interesting to see how the rest of their offseason will play out now. No need to trade either position player for salary relief but if the can bring in some long term pieces, maybe they dip for a season for more long term success. Well ran franchise !
Mendoza Line 215
Spencer is another KeBryan Hayes level of player.He will hit 280 with 15 home runs and field well.
He will need to put 15 pounds of muscle on to hit over 20 home runs though.
Probably a solid player but one who will not move the needle for the Pirates.
Better than Tellez but not as good as Santana this coming year.
Ortiz came on well last year and the Guardians will improve him even more.
Should have been a one for one deal.
The proverbial injuries will cause the Pirates to use the AAA starters towards the end of the season just like they always use.
holecamels35
Not sure if Hayes is still that player. If so, his contract is a steal but he lost all his power last year, even doubles, and was never an on base guy.
El Kabong
A combination of Spencer and Hayes as corner infielders isn’t ideal for those traditional power positions. Suwinski’s and Davis’s lack of progress is holding the offense down. They need Davis to be a star. Is that now considered unlikely?
Mendoza Line 215
Casas was the guy to get but the Red Sox evidently were not enthralled with Ortiz.
He would have been worth giving up a couple of young pitchers for.
Big whiffa
Pirates had several other better options more valuable than Ortiz to get casas
YaGottaBelieveAgain
What about all the CLE fans that bought a Spencer Horwitz jersey?
Do they get a Refund? : )
debubba
Zach Meisel will have twitter fodder with that jersey!
holecamels35
I will miss Ortiz. He filled in admirably and pitched so well, they had no other choice but to let him keep starting. Wasn’t perfect though and prone to some rough innings. I hope this Horwitz guy is legit and not a flash in the pan. Very small sample size and not too young, late bloomer? Pirates now don’t have to worry much about 1B and can possibly go after someone with power in the outfield. But please don’t forget about rotation depth. Every team has it until injuries pop up. And they need a reliable long man.
Blue Baron
Nice move for the Pirates.
Big whiffa
Nice move for all 3 teams ! Be interesting to see what pirates do next
rmullig2
Damnit, I already bought 5 Horowitz Guardian jerseys. What am I supposed to do now?
El Kabong
Hope he becomes a superstar so you can sell them as Horwitz rarities. Those jerseys might buy you a house (or, at the very least, a Galley Boy at Swenson’s).
PuttPutt⁰³
Big time move here.
Mendoza Line 215
Hole- I think that Falter can be the long man.He pitched well early last year but got tired towards the end of the year as he had never pitched that many innings before.
This means that they are looking for Bubba to be the fifth starter with Oviedo penciled in as the fourth.No veteran reinforcement though.
Ashcraft is always hurt and Harrington is too young.Burrowes evidently will be the backup.
And mediocre veteran starters are $10 M minimum now.
I hope that Horwitz works out well.
PiratePartyTime412
Cherington drafted Horwitz with TOR & new hitting coach Matt Hague ex blue j both must like something but CLE got a solid arm back in Ortiz were getting Oviedo back Chandler Ashcraft Harrington Solometo etc plenty of depth good move for both & we’re not tossing millions at a guy like Rowdy who has years of control I’ll take it ☠️
YourDreamGM
A for Cleveland. Don’t see how they could have done better from any other team unless Toronto wanted him back.
D for Pittsburgh. Too cheap to pay for a 1b. Zero confidence in player development. Too much confidence in developing this 1b.
Maybe seeing Ortiz starting playoff games and these prospects climbing up the rankings will get Nutting to fire Cherington. Maybe they make this 1b into a real all star and Cherington gets another extension.
Bluejay4life
They say Spencer Value is Hitting which is true. He puts up a battle at the plate every time he’s up. I’m pretty sure the Buc fans are going to love him he was a great story for a sad team last year.