The Phillies and Joe Ross have agreed to a one-year contract, the team confirmed. Matt Gelb of The Athletic, who was first to report the signing, adds that Ross will receive a $4MM salary. The right-hander, who has experience as a starter and a reliever, is expected to take on a swingman role in Philadelphia. To free up a space for Ross on the 40-man roster, the Phillies have designated fellow righty José Cuas for assignment.
Ross, 32 in May, spent the 2024 season with the Brewers. He opened the year in Milwaukee’s rotation, making nine starts with a 4.50 ERA and 4.65 SIERA through mid-May. Unfortunately, a lower back strain landed him on the IL for more than two months in the middle of the year. He made one poor start upon his return before moving into the bullpen.
It was there that Ross thrived, pitching to a 1.67 ERA and 3.89 SIERA in 27 innings of work. Although his fastball velocity didn’t increase by much, he raised his strikeout rate from 18.7% as a starter to 24.1% as a reliever. He also did an excellent job limiting extra-base hits. While the righty gave up more fly balls and fewer grounders, he dropped his opponents’ isolated power from .134 to .060. In addition, Ross provided the Brewers bullpen with valuable length; he threw more than one inning in 10 of his 15 relief appearances.
Ultimately, the sample size of Ross’s 2024 season is relatively small. He pitched 47 innings as a starter and 27 out of the bullpen. Meanwhile, the sample size of his 2022 and ’23 seasons is non-existent. He landed on the IL with a UCL injury in August 2021, underwent his second career Tommy John surgery in May 2022, and did not pitch in the majors again until this past year.
From 2015-21, Ross was a capable pitcher when healthy. In 76 starts and 22 relief appearances for the Nationals, he put up a 4.26 ERA and an identical 4.26 SIERA. In 2024, he showed he could still be that arm. Across 74 innings, he produced a respectable 3.77 ERA and 4.38 SIERA. He went at least five innings in seven of his 10 starts and held his opponents scoreless in 12 of his 15 relief appearances. It’s easy to see what the Phillies like in a guy who can provide depth for the rotation and length for the bullpen. At the same time, it’s easy to see why fans might be nervous. Ross has a lengthy injury history that has prevented him from ever pitching more than 27 games or 108 innings in a season. That upside is why he landed a major league deal; his injury history is why it’s only a $4MM guarantee, pocket change for a Phillies team with a projected $289MM payroll (per RosterResource).
In a media availability last week, Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski said he was looking for a swingman type who could pitch out of both the rotation and the bullpen. However, after the team’s surprise acquisition of starter Jesús Luzardo, it was unclear if Dombrowski was still seeking another pitcher. With a projected rotation of Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Cristopher Sánchez, Ranger Suárez, and Luzardo, the Phillies could have opted to use Taijuan Walker as their swingman. The veteran lost his starting job this past year amidst a career-worst season. In 19 appearances (15 starts) he pitched to a 7.10 ERA and 5.25 SIERA in 83 2/3 innings of work.
With Ross in the fold, it’s hard to guess what Walker’s role will be with the Phillies in 2025 – if he’ll have one at all. The seven locks for the 2025 bullpen are José Alvarado, Matt Strahm, Jordan Romano, Orion Kerkering, José Ruiz, Tanner Banks, and Ross. That only leaves one spot left on the pitching staff. The Phillies could give that spot to Walker, but they might prefer to go with a higher-upside young arm rather than carrying two long men. Max Lazar, whom Dombrowski mentioned in his media availability last week, is one name on the 40-man roster to keep in mind. As for any further outside additions, the POBO suggested he’s likely done supplementing to the bullpen (per Gelb). For now, Walker will prepare to compete for a bullpen job and provide additional starting depth in case of injury. Still, one has to presume the Phillies are looking for any way to offload his contract this winter. He is set to earn $36MM over the next two seasons.
Cuas did not appear in a game with the Phillies in 2024. After beginning his career with the Royals in 2022, he was traded to the Cubs at the deadline in 2023. Chicago DFA’d him this past June, and the Blue Jays claimed him off of waivers. Toronto would DFA him as well before the end of the year, and although the Phillies claimed him in September, they optioned him to Triple-A and never called him up. The right-hander has a career 4.37 ERA and 4.43 SIERA in 119 1/3 innings. He also has two option years remaining. That should help him find a new club to sign him as a depth arm for 2025.
DarkSide830
DD IN THE KITCHEN COOKING AGAIN!
Kruk it
Hopefully this is the END of Tijuan Walker
dankyank
On the flip side, Walker had a single down year and even if he stays the Phillies have only 8 potential SPs on 40 man roster. That’s not exactly terrible, but all of Walker, Luzardo and Ross come with extensive injury histories. I think they add at least one more depth option for the rotation.
Jbigz12
They really can’t add anymore depth unless it’s AAA depth.
dankyank
I really doubt that’s technically correct. They have 14 relievers on the 40 man. What are the odds all of them are out of options?
Besides, teams are allowed to bring 60 players to spring training.
Jbigz12
fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/phillie…
Phil’s have 8 relievers with those 2 in the pen as it stands right now. I don’t see how they’d add another ML depth rotation option if he’s not optionable. Banks and Kerkering have options but neither one of them is going to go down.
dankyank
Correction: they have 8 relievers in their bullpen on the 26 man roster. Both fangraphs and baseball reference list Johnson, Abel, Mercado, Phillips, Tyler and Rangel on the 40 man roster. Again, 14 potential relievers on the 40 man with room to invite more to spring training.
baseball-reference.com/teams/PHI/2024-roster.shtml
Jbigz12
I think we’re on different pages here. I’m saying they cannot give a major league deal out to another SP as a depth option.
dankyank
I agree. I believe they take on more minor and split deal types to audition for the rotation in ST. I should have clarified in my original post.
onthebucks
kruk, Like so many other former Phillies pitchers, Walker will thrive pitching for another team. Being snubbed and not being used in the playoffs after a good 2023 season is the reason the Phils lost Walker emotionally before the 2024 season ever began.
VonPurpleHayes
Please provide recent examples of Phillies pitchers who thrived on other teams. Also, Walker did not pitch well in the 2nd half of 2023. This all seems silly to me. No offense.
onthebucks
von, The list is long and headed by Curt Schilling, Gio Gonzalez and Ferguson Jenkins. I didn’t say the list had to be recent.
Smacky
Meth
DarkSide830
Waltuh White
SODOMOJO
That’s Logan Gilbert’s nickname in this household
The McNasty1
Walter White?
The McNasty1
Lose the caps, bro.
cpdpoet
Looks like DD is putting together a better SP depth chart than ’24.
twozero6ix
Maybe he will offer Bohm for Aaron Judge or Shoehi this week
Bart Harley Jarvis
Deal!
christopher8002
Why not for both?
Therealeman
Plus Ohtani
dcftw
Feels like Joe Ross has been spinning his tires his whole career trying to get going. He’s a good pitcher when healthy.
mlb1225
I thought he was going to be an unhearaled ace for the Nats after he got off to such a good start to his career in 2015-2016.
SODOMOJO
Agreed. His sinker was very impressive back in the day, and he had a couple plus chase pitches as well. He had the stuff and the brain. Injuries strike again. Although, it’s good to see him still in the league after all he’s been through.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Yup. I respect this move. Definitely some upside to explore here.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Looks like a high upside depth signing. Nice, if smaller move.
Rsox
Philly is adding interesting arms if nothing else
AaronJudgeMVP29
Walker DFA coming? He may be long relief for Philly and they have 5 rotation spots now.
stevetampa
I think it is possible but not until ST. I think he will get an opportunity but with a very short leash.
Brad Johnson
I think @stevetampa is right. Walker was a 15-game winner in ‘23 (though not exactly a good pitcher), and he was flat out good in ‘22. Not hard to imagine a rebound year. At the same time, it’s good that they’ve built a pitching staff that doesn’t need him.
philliesphan77
Really? I have an incredibly hard time imagining a rebound year for him. Especially since I watched him the last two years.
AM21
At his price tag they gotta at least give him a look during ST.
VonPurpleHayes
Walker will probably stay. If he has a great spring training maybe the Phillies offer him up and pay a portion of his salary.
Boz32
I look forward to booing him in Clearwater this spring.
RicoD
Boz, I hope that makes you feel cool. I’m pulling for you!
stevetampa
I like this as a depth move for the Phillies. I need to squint now to see TWalker on the depth chart, which is perfectly OK with me.
El Kabong
Ross just hopped in Car 54 and is headed to Philly to sign the contract.
If you understand this post, you are extremely old.
David Kupsick
Where are you?
El Kabong
On the Jersey Turnpike with Fred Gwynne.
MikeSadek3333
Oh man, you are a Monster…err, i mean Munster
MWeller77
Then they’ll be heading over to meet Khrushchev at Idlewild
Jean Matrac
As long as they don’t get caught in that traffic jam in Harlem. They might not get out of Jackson Heights.
El Kabong
I read a story a few months ago about the squeegee men returning to the Lower West Side and that they are “getting aggressive.” So, they will have to navigate through that as well.
Pads Fans
Well there is a blast from the past. I remember when Padres fans were whining that he got traded. 7 seasons in the majors and not one healthy enough to make 20 starts.
dankyank
I do wonder what the exact amount of the offer was. Regardless, Dombrowski is doing a nice job adding cost effective rotation options.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Ross
Pitch for Less
cpdpoet
You sir have given me the laugh I needed today
Tacoshells
Phillies having the best off-season so far.
Lalo says show me
Based on what?
Kepler was overpaid and doesn’t fix a need. Romano is good when healthy, but may not be healthy. Ross is rarely healthy. Luzardo was a good gamble but also injured.
Therealeman
Disagree about need. Phillies needed improved defense and lower strikeouts. Kepler if healthy offers both, and pushing Rojas into a weak side platoon is addition by subtraction.
PhilliesFan91
Unless Marsh or Rojas is traded
VonPurpleHayes
Kepler is a starting OF. I’m not a huge fan of the signing, but it absolutely fixes a need. We didn’t have a starting LF without that signing.
But to your point, the Phillies are making a lot of low-risk, high upside signings. If one of these works out, that’s great, but we have to accept the possibility that none of these will work out.
I think DD is having a decent offseason without breaking the bank and without trading the prospects who are close to being ready to go. He’s leaning on high-upside candidates. If just 1 or 2 of these gambles pay off, the Phillies will be in great shape. If none of them do, the Phillies will waste a year of their aging stars’ prime years.
AndyMeyer
Well said Von on all fronts
RicoD
Agreed Von, I think signing Hoffman back is the last piece for me to consider it a successful offseason.
VonPurpleHayes
I love Hoffman. I think he’s out of the Phillies budget. I think the Phillies are mostly done.
Reynaldo's
Not gonna get the chance to start there; why?
El Kabong
No team goes through an entire season with five starters.
dankyank
Luzardo and now Ross are very good gambles. Kepler was healthier than Hays last season but I think he’s the less productive player going forward. The cost of Dombrowski’s recent transactions would seem to suggest the Phillies are trying to stay below the second luxury tax threshold. In that light, the Kepler signing feels like a waste of $5- $6 million of a limited budget. Otherwise, they’ve succeeded in modestly improving the roster for another year in a row.
El Kabong
dankyank — I was surprised the Phillies signed Kepler. His 2024 season wasn’t strong, and he missed the final month due to patellar tendonitis in his left knee. Plus, he bats lefthanded, and they were supposedly looking for a righty outfield bat. Do you think they’re done tinkering with their outfield?
jumps
El Kabong — Kepler was probably the best option still left on the market. With him, the Phillies will probably be running a LF & CF platoon. Kepler & Weston Wilson as the L/R in LF and Marsh/Rojas in CF. Wilson will probably see time as utility and Rojas as a late inning defensive replacement. They’re probably done since they’re over the 3rd tax threshold.
It seems they were trying to make bigger upgrades to their OF but it seems like no one is interested in trading for Castellanos and it sounds like the White Sox have a ridiculously high price tag for Robert. I would bet they were interested in Seiya Suzuki but the Cubs prioritized moving Bellinger.
Can’t forget, Realmuto & Schwarber are FAs next winter and Bohm & Castellanos the winter after. With the Luzardo trade (being controllable through 26), it seems they’re leaving enough room to possibly do a quick tear down, reload in the next 2 years if something goes sideways.
The SS they gave up for Luzardo (Caba) is a stud and I think they got absolutely fleeced in the deal (given Luzardo can never stay healthy). But with Suarez hiring Boras last week going into his walk year, they probably wanted to make sure they had that rotation spot locked down for 2026 so they don’t need to rush Painter into the majors next year since he didn’t really pitch post TJ until the AFL this year.
PhilliesFan91
There is one more guy I wish they would add & that is Tanner Scott. I would let Schwarber & Jt walk for them to either sign Kyle Tucker or Vlad jr
jumps
Scott is out of the question unless they move a lot of money. They said they’re pretty much tapped out in terms of spending major $$ on FAs as now they’re at the 100% tax threshold.
I get the interest in Tucker but I would hope Phillies fans would learn from their current roster what investing huge money into all-bat, no tool players like Vlad does to your team. Also, with the Soto contract, these guys are going to be looking at that as a new normal. $400-500M for those guys feels crazy, more understandable for Tucker since he’s a lefty that’s also a plus fielder at a premium position and base runner.
The Luzardo trade is another possible example of a Phillies trade that may bite them in the long run due to prioritizing a not completely necessary upgrade at a position during a window. The major example of this is the Marsh/O’Hoppe deal.
Seems like the Phillies are gambling on injured players coming back to help in 2025. But outside of Luzardo, there’s no real questions answered for longer term. Although, maybe with a beefed up rotation and for instance, the Mariners striking out on every FA. If Justin Turner doesn’t re-sign in Seattle, maybe that brings the M’s back to the table about Bohm. Obviously not 1 for 1 for one of their SP’s but maybe the Phillies get a controllable reliever or a couple young ML ready talents they can flip for a player they desire or fits a need they feel they have.
El Kabong
jumps — I thought Enrique Hernandez might be an option for the Phillies. Forget the .230 batting average. He crushes lefthanders, can play all over the diamond, and tends to show up in October. There’s a chance Hernandez will return to the Dodgers. But with the current roster crunch, he might not have a spot.
jumps
I think your comment here is the real issue they’re facing. Someone like Kepler or Hernandez does not fix the problems they’re facing. The middle of their lineup and their high priced players are the ones that hurt their lineup the most in the postseason. Turner, Castellanos, & Realmuto; their 3 veteran RH bats have been net negatives. Bohm has been their best performing RH bat the last 2 years.
This is why they’re probably taking the slow approach and not committing major money or prospect capitol right now. Someone like Kyle Tucker would’ve helped make it better, someone like Soto would’ve really helped. But the issue is they need upgrades at multiple positions. And in terms of their lineup, outside of Rojas, every positional player is 27 or older. They have a rather old lineup and none of their better field player prospects will likely see the field until 2026.
There’s just not any great upgrades out there right now. They probably should’ve made a change after 22 and they definitely should’ve made a move after 23. But they buried their head in the sand, ignoring the problem. In 2022, the wave of good feeling and a magical run helped mask the idea of the bats getting cold. Then they scapegoated Rojas for the D’Backs series although everyone sans Harper in the middle of the lineup didn’t show up.
Funny enough, it’s probably best they don’t make major improvements to their lineup now. Because if they do, it’ll likely cost them most of their near future prospects. They have little depth and really could end up being a bottom 5 team in the league in 2-3 years if things go really sour.
El Kabong
Wheeler’s $19M raise is another problem for the Phillies. I’m not debating whether Wheeler deserves the money. But for a team with limited wiggle room on the payroll and needing multiple improvements, it’s like signing a free agent but getting no additional on-field production. Factor in the bad contracts, and it’s easy to see why their situation can get bleak in a hurry.
Back to Wheeler’s pay increase: The Phillies knew it was coming and should have planned for the day when it kicked in. Unfortunately, they had already committed to Castellanos, Schwarber, Walker, Realmuto, and Turner (and Nola simultaneously to Wheeler). That’s why scouting, drafting, and player development are essential. A team can’t win solely by spending big on free agents. They need productive homegrown players to offset the cost of those contracts. That’s doubly true when those big-ticket players don’t produce as anticipated.
El Kabong
Before we know it, free-agent starting pitching options will be down to Corbin Burnes and Patrick Corbin. Where do the two Corbins end up?
Bart Harley Jarvis
A Tale of Two Corbins
Chapter I
The Period
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way–in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
Bob Evans down on UR mom
Joe Ross is f’in terrible! $5 is too much if the player is absolute garbage like Joe Ross! F- signing an absolutey disgraceful waste of $4m dollars and a 40 man roster spot. Joe Ross IS ATROCIOUS!
roob
Are you okay?
cpdpoet
My guess is over caffeination….?
El Kabong
roob — It’s that Bob Evans diet. The mashed potatoes aren’t what they used to be.
Bob Evans down on UR mom
Haven’t won a f’in World Series since 08 so NO I”M NOT OKAY!
cpdpoet
Bob, I do get it as a phan from the mid ’70’s. For me Bulleit bourbon, christmas music, in front of the fire have helped…
Bob Evans down on UR mom
Winning helps me can we get some of that?
Bob Evans down on UR mom
Tell me how I’m wrong though…the basis of the message is that Joe Ross is absolutely awful. Prove me wrong or at least answer buddy are YOU okay..
VonPurpleHayes
That’s World Series Champion Joe Ross to you.
El Kabong
WSC Joe Ross reporting for duty, sir!
JScottG
Are the Phills doing everything possible to guarantee Painter goes nowhere near a MLB mound? Majors, not minors.
VonPurpleHayes
They’re being smart about his development. He’ll come up at some point, but probably not until late in the season. They don’t want to rush him. His more important years will be 2026 and beyond.
The Phillies, who have been bad at developing players over the years, have recently developed a bunch of homegrown pitching talent to great success. I trust what they’re doing with Painter.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Andrew Painter will turn 22 just after the 2025 season opener. The Phillies are wisely taking their time with a special talent.
CarverAndrews
On a side note, at least to this point in time, this has been a very good comments thread. Relatively on point analysis by most folks, good-natured back and forth, and a few doses of real humor. Great to see, and on a Phillies thread as well.
I like the signing – inexpensive depth for a swingman. Sure, not all of the injury upside deals will work, but hopefully a few of them will contribute and if the arms are healthy then they can deal from strength at the deadline.
El Kabong
Carver Andrews — Yes, and on a Phillies thread two days before Christmas. So far, there are no comments about fans throwing snowballs at a particular guy whose little round belly shook when he laughed like a bowl full of jelly.
Seriously, though, this is a wonderful time of year for baseball fans. It’s fun following the hot stove activity. Baseball is a year-round sport.
El Kabong
VonPurpleHayes — What do you make of Mick Abel’s lack of progress? As long as we’ve heard about him, he’s still just 23. This would seem to be a crucial year in his development.
VonPurpleHayes
I agree. The excitement on Abel seems to have waned, but like you said, he’s just 23. I’m hoping he has a good year.
PhilliesFan91
Abel has the stuff but he doesn’t have control
jumps
Abel never gained control. He was drafted high due to his raw stuff but it was always about if he developed control to be a TotR arm. His stuff was good enough in the lower levels to just blow by hitters. AA Reading is notoriously tough to pitch in and that’s where he hit the wall. Maybe it got in his head? Then moving to Triple A, they had very weak lineups which put a lot of pressure on starters. Couple that with some small injuries that lost some gas on his fastball. He doesn’t locate well and his 95-96 fastball coming in at 92 in the heart of the plate. No surprise he got rocked.
He can still improve and he’s still very young. But the chances of him being a TotR arm are almost zero. If he has a big league career, it’ll probably be one as a BotR arm or a late inning reliever. Which isn’t bad in a vacuum but when you’re the top prep arm taking in the top 15, it feels like a disappointment.
El Kabong
The Phillies signing Ross suggests they don’t want to rely on a minor-leaguer beyond Painter should injuries force them to call up a starter. That somewhat buries Abel, who must significantly improve to see any MLB time in 2025.
Heels On The Field
NO, this is absolutely wrong. Abel has lost his fastball and his big breaking ball has lost it’s bite. Mick Abel, has degenerated somewhat like Taijuan Walker (not to that extent yet)
Abel had a 96 MPH fastball when drafted out of high school. Now Abel has great, visible difficultty getting a fastball to touch 94 MPH. Abel sits 89 – 92 with his fastball.
Physically he has not improved too much from when drafted. Abels main issue is a lack of physical development – muscle.
BronxBombers23
They will probably call up Painter in May. He looked great in the Arizonal Fall league. He’s clearly the best pitching prospect in MLB. He is probably not as talented as Skenes, but almost. He will be ready after 4-5 starts in the minors. He won’t pitch in more than 120 innings, but I don’t think they will wait until the 2nd half to call him up. It looked like he was going to make the Phillies rotation to open the 23 saison… as a fckg 19 year old. I’m in a keeper league and will draft him everywhere lmfao
jumps
There’s zero reason to call up Painter until he shows he’s 100% healthy and they can utilize him without a stressing workload. The best situation would be something like Adam Wainwright with the Cards. He gets reps in AA/AAA and gets a bullpen/spot start job later into the season and for the playoffs.
Before his TJ surgery, at 19, most scouts said Painter was on a different level than Grayson Rodriguez & Jared Jones. That’s high praise but Jonathan Mayo said after he was drafted, if it comes together, he had a Verlander like ceiling.
You don’t need to rush him, especially since the Phillies aren’t like the Orioles, where their lineup is clearly set and going to get better over the next 5 years. Painter is also a Boras client, so the chances of any extension are little/none. So, it’s wise to not start that service clock until you have to and squeeze as much usage out of those 6 years of control as possible.
MRSHOWTIME
7 years if done right
kje76
They’ve come out and said that they are pointing Painter toward late summer. He;ll start slow in ST, and stay in extended ST. He’ll hit the minors after he’s built up a bit, Their goal with him is to build him up gradually, limit the innings on the repaired inning, and then bring Painter up in late summer with an eye to him in the rotation for the end of the season and the playoffs.
cpdpoet
Hmmm Walker…. After meetings with his agent, who has been in contact w/ Phillies brass, a plan might be in place? My guess is that Walker pitches in spring training and does just good enough to attract interest. The contract he was given was actually NOT that crazy given that off season….
The Phillies pay $8 mil down and a deal is made. What that deal is could go from a lottery ticket up to another player for MLB talent.
Just am looking forward to his departure … no hard feelings, just go away.
jumps
The Phillies just acquired 2 pitchers who have spend more of their professional careers on the injured list than actually playing. Even though Walker is bad, there’s zero reason to move him now. Let everyone show what they have in spring training and make decisions then. Pitching injuries spike in March, so if there’s a team that loses multiple arms, Walker can be in play (provided the Phillies don’t lose anyone). Given the situation, Walker isn’t getting anything back in return but if they can maybe shave half of his 2026 salary off the books, that’s a major W.
Jbigz12
$8MM?!?
The Phils have to eat at least $20MM. That might not be enough
RicoD
2 things: Walker isn’t bad, he had a bad season. He may continue to regress or he can bounce back next season and 2024 becomes an anomaly
Also, this is an ultimate sell low situation for the Phillies which isn’t good. Wait it out, let him try to improve his stock if the goal is to move him. He slots into the rotation if there’s an injury worst case.
tom brunanskys black sock
Let me know when they ink Stan Ross
Bart Harley Jarvis
Either of these would be an interesting signing:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._3000
imdb.com/name/nm0743829/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
tom brunanskys black sock
Or this absolute legend.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ralph_Ross
An entire career, film and television. Accolades. Hard work and dedication. And Wiki decides the headline to this man’s life was that Louis Gossett Jr was his best man.
Which, to be fair, is freaking awesome.
PhilliesFan91
If there was anyone to go over the luxury tax as the final piece would be signing Tanner Scott just do it Dombrowski
VonPurpleHayes
The problem there is the years. They’re looking for short-term deals so that they can reset the luxury tax next year. Scott and Hoffman are going to get multi-year deals.
AC Surf Baseball
How about trying to swing a trade with the Astros for Ryan Pressly. Have read they are motivated to move his $14M salary and add young players or prospects (30th ranked system in MLB). Jake Meyers is a nice defensive CF with a career .760 OPS vs. LHP. Johan Rojas/Kody Clemens plus Abel for Pressly & Meyers? Still feel like there’s one more move to come, a Walker trade or another RH RP. If not, there’s always the trade deadline. DD’s moves so far have at least made it plausible they can reset the cap.
The McNasty1
As an MLB pitcher, Joe Ross is trash.
AC Surf Baseball
Another roster upgrade at least. Ross was an important part of that Nationals WS team in 2019. He’s two full years removed from surgery, gives the pen some length from the right side. I think a Taijuan Walker trade is coming for another bad contract. With Painter expected to be first guy up from Lehigh and Joe Ross getting a guaranteed contract – there is absolutely no role for him here and with two years remaining they’d be crazy to release him.
The Krukker
The Athletics need to add salary and it wouldn’t hurt for the Phillies to dump some. Taijuan Walker is clearly expendable at this point. Walker to the A’s for somebody with minor league options and/or cash considerations?
onthebucks
With all the money the Phils are spending on players who may add only marginally to the team’s success in the 2025 season, one has to wonder if the money would have been better spent on a single marquis player or two who would have an immediate and lasting impact on the team.
VonPurpleHayes
Marquee players want money and years. The Phillies are trying to reset their luxury tax penalties next year (similar to what the Dodgers did a year or so ago and the Mets did this year). So, the Phillies won’t be able to sign any marquee FAs. By handing out one year deals on high-upside bounceback candidates, the Phillies are able to plug holes and still reset that budget for 26. The Mets did this magnificently last year. Hopefully, it works for the Phils too.
onthebucks
von, How are the tax penalties greater for the Phils if they sign three marginal players for a total of $22 million or one star for $20 million?
Jbigz12
Stars don’t sign for $20MM anymore.
VonPurpleHayes
Because marquee players don’t sign 1 year deals. The Phils don’t want that money on the books next year. Also, signing multiple players gives you a better chance of plugging multiple holes instead of 1 hole. The Phils already have the stars. They just need the fringe pieces.
onthebucks
Maybe Dombrowski’s getting old and starting to easily confuse names. When he signed Joe Ross for $4 million, he may have thought he was signing Roki Sasaki.
suddendepth
I like using this comp for inflation. Nice one.
dano62
Gunther Toody where are you?