The Phillies “remain interested in” bringing Jeff Hoffman back, The Athletic’s Matt Gelb writes, seemingly with the idea of keeping Hoffman his familiar relief pitching role rather than using him as a starting pitcher. Though Hoffman hasn’t worked as a starter since 2021, some clubs have explored the idea of adding the free agent righty to their rotation rather than to their bullpen.
Hoffman’s transition to relief pitching with the Reds in 2021 led to an immediate uptick in production, and his results have only gotten better over the last four seasons. Despite a solid 3.83 ERA in 44 2/3 innings for Cincinnati in 2022, Hoffman could only find minor league contracts from the Twins and (after a release late in Spring Training) the Phillies, but his two seasons in Philadelphia have seen Hoffman develop into a high-leverage force. Hoffman has a 2.28 ERA, 33.4% strikeout rate, and 7.4% walk rate over 118 2/3 regular-season innings for Philadelphia in 2023-24, and while he also pitched well in the 2023 playoffs, his 2024 postseason was marred by a pair of meltdowns against the Mets in the NLDS.
Hoffman and his agents at CAA undoubtedly took note of the three-year, $38MM deal that Clay Holmes just signed with the Mets, as New York intends to use Holmes as a rotation arm even though Holmes hasn’t started a big-league game since 2018. The lure of a bigger payday as a starter might influence Hoffman to look more in that direction, though he was already likely to receive a sizable contract as one of the best relievers in the free agent market. MLBTR projected Hoffman to land a four-year, $44MM deal with the idea that he would be a reliever, as our top 50 free agents ranking was written before the reports surfaced about the possibility of Hoffman becoming a starter.
Even if starting pitching may bring a larger average annual salary, “the Phillies can make competitive offers that come with a promise of playing for a contender,” Gelb notes. Hoffman is also on the record about how he liked pitching in Philadelphia, and as he enters his age-32 season, it stands to reason that Hoffman might prefer to stick in the relief role and city that brought him the first sustained success of his nine-year MLB career.
Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski first mentioned his team’s interest in reuniting with Hoffman during his end-of-season press conference, with the caveat that the Phils would bring back just one of Hoffman or Carlos Estevez. “We like them both. It’s hard for me to imagine that you end up bringing them both back under the circumstances because I would gather they’re both going to get offered long-term, big-dollar contracts, which they’re going to be looking for,” Dombrowski said. “I don’t see us spending that type of money on two relievers in our bullpen, but I’m just not sure at this time.”
Estevez also remains unsigned, with the Yankees known to be one of the teams linked to the former All-Star closer. Since the Phillies seem focused on adding to the bullpen, it could be they’ll end up prioritizing Estevez if Hoffman indeed winds up delving more into the starting pitching market. Gelb’s piece didn’t indicate one way or the other if the Phillies also still had interest in Estevez, or if Philadelphia necessarily had more interest in Hoffman over Estevez all things being equal.
olmtiant
Carlos Estevez… loved him in Breakfast Club!!!
Bart Harley Jarvis
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mlbnyyfan
Cashman needs to get this guy instead of bringing back Kahnle or someone else.
TheBoatmen
Good. Maybe I can get one right in the contest.
rotofool
A potential $38M investment for Hoffman seems both too steep & too risky. I’d pair keeping Estevez with adding an interesting young arm through the Rule 5 draft like LHP Bryan Magdelano or RHP Evan Reifert. Frees up money for Bregman.
stevetampa
Phillies need arms at the back end, and I’m not sure any Rule 5 fits the mode. Estevez will be less expensive, but I think Hoffman’s dominance appears more likely to be repeated. I like the Phillies to stretch out the years to keep the AAV more modest. Four years and 44-48m should get it done.
DarkSide830
or they could NOT free up money for Bregman
philliesphan77
No need getting Bregman if you want to sacrifice the bullpen for it. What- so Bregman can hit a HR to give the Phillies a lead and the bullpen can lose the game because it’s filled with Rule 5 picks? Cmonnnnnn
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Alec Bohm for Matt Brash
stevetampa
I’m thinking Hancock and Brash.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Okay Bohm for Hancock
Old York
Why? Guy’s cooked.
VonPurpleHayes
Lol. Did you not see him last season? Stud.
philliesphan77
Old York, stick to watching professional shuffleboard ya ninny.
Champ world champion Texas Rangers
Look out for Texas.
VonPurpleHayes
As well they should.
philliesphan77
He should absolutely be a priority for them.
RicoD
Resigning Hoffman should be a priority. They will regret having a proven Philly asset depart from the back of the bullpen.
On a separate note, I don’t know why they don’t stretch him more. If he’s been a starter before, and not going to be your closer, does it make sense to have him throw 6&7 or 7&8 as setup?
Thompson’s closer by committee approach seemed to backfire as the season went on.
whosehighpitch
And like Junior Soprano says I want to ?!@“ Angie Dickinson
longines64
Where are they with Tanner Scott? Who is the 9th inning guy? Not Alvarado that’s for.
whosehighpitch
Alvarado throws 100 and is good every once in a while. They should dump that load and resign Estevez and Hoffman with the savings. Oh and by the way Tanner Scott isn’t the guy either. They need a legitimate closer
VonPurpleHayes
I prefer Alvarado to Estevez, but Alvarado is not the 9th inning guy. Hoffman is the best of that trio, but he’s a setup man. They do need a real closer though. I’m not against Scott.
DanielDannyDano
Jeff Hoffman needs to come full circle and sign with the Blue Jays. Toronto has a decimated bullpen and with the non tender of Jordan Romano, Hoffman would instantly slot into the #1 role.
whosehighpitch
The only thing going good for the BlueJays is the WWE is holding a pay per view there
BurnerK
This is a tough call. He and Turnbull had oddly great promise. Both are viable re-signs. They need to figure out what to do with the absence of Walker. Walker is practicing with a weighted ball trying to recapture his speed but there’s no assurance his head will be right. Philly is a tough place to play if you’re unhinged in any way.