Shortly after the team’s season came to an end, Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski indicated that veteran catcher J.T. Realmuto might see less time behind the plate in 2025 going forward. It wasn’t clear at the time what the specifics of that arrangement might look like, but Scott Lauber of the Philadelphia Inquirer recently discussed the club’s plans regarding Realmuto in greater detail, relaying that manager Rob Thomson suggested this week that Realmuto’s performance may improve if he receives an extra day off per week during the season.
While Realmuto played just 99 games this season after undergoing knee surgery back in June, he averaged 135 games played per year from 2015 to 2023, excluding the pandemic-shortened 2020 campaign. While soon-to-be 34 year old has received occasional time at DH and even first base throughout his career, the overwhelming majority of his work has come behind the plate. That means he’s typically sat just once a week throughout his tenure behind the plate, a hefty workload for any backstop. Shifting to a schedule that sees him play something closer to five games per week with an extra day off would still leave Realmuto to play around 115 games per year, a workload comparable to those handled by Yankees rookie Austin Wells and Cubs youngster Miguel Amaya in 2024.
While 115 games per year wouldn’t light up the leaderboards among catchers in terms of volume, it’s worth noting that most catchers who rack up the playing time of a true everyday player see significant time at DH, first base, or another position on the diamond. Salvador Perez, for example, stepped up to the plate for the Royals in 158 games this year but was behind the plate for just 90 of those games. 115 games caught in 2024 would’ve been the eighth highest total in the majors and just 16 games behind Cal Raleigh, who led the league with 131 games caught.
Lauber notes Perez as an example of how scaling back defensive duties behind the dish can help aging catchers remain productive on offense. From 2015 to 2018, Perez hit just .252/.284/.448 (91 wRC+) while serving as the everyday catcher in Kansas City. After injury woes wiped out his 2019 season, Perez began to scale back his time behind the plate and has hit a far more robust .264/.309/.474 (109 wRC+) over the past four seasons. Given that Realmuto is a career 110 wRC+ hitter who has slashed an even more robust .264/.325/.455 (114 wRC+) over the past three seasons, it’s easy to imagine Realmuto’s bat being among the most impactful for his position in the game if he scaled back his catching duties.
With that being said, Lauber notes that the Phillies haven’t approached Realmuto regarding the possibility of more carefully managing his workload in 2025. That’s not the only thing the sides haven’t discussed, either; according to Lauber, the Phillies have yet to approach Realmuto about an extension despite the fact that he’s poised to reach free agency following the 2025 season. With that said, Lauber suggests that an extension could be discussed either later in the offseason or at some point during Spring Training. It was just last winter, after all, that the Phillies slow-played their extension talks with veteran ace Zack Wheeler despite clear interest in a deal from both sides. That deal wound up getting done in early March after months of rumors surrounding the possibility of extension talks.
Lauber speculates that a similar deal to the one Wheeler signed, which guaranteed him just three years at a record AAV, could make sense for both sides if the Phillies and Realmuto do pursue an extension. Catchers are risky long-term investments thanks to the physical toll the position takes on the body, and given that an especially lengthy deal seems somewhat unlikely. Even a three-year extension would guarantee Realmuto a contract through the end of his age-37 season, which would certainly carry some risk for Philadelphia given that 35-year-old Travis d’Arnaud was the only catcher to garner even 300 plate appearances at age-35 or older behind the plate this season. With that being said, next year’s class of free agent catchers figures to be relatively thin and the Phillies internal duo of Garrett Stubbs and Rafael Marchan inspires little confidence as compared to the veteran, which could convince the club to roll the dice with Realmuto as he ages.
The biggest tr0ll
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Why? 115 games would be 16 more games than he played in 2024?
Lindor's Bodyguard
Outfield.
Castellanos
T Walker
Bohm
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
If those are the only problems for a team than the Phillies are doing very well
I wouldn’t mind having Casty or bohm on my team personally
The biggest tr0ll
Bohm is a low impact player. He killed my fantasy team second half. His average looked good because of a couple big hit games, but other than that he couldn’t hit. His stats look admirable but he really doesn’t offer much offensively
bluejays4life
I’m pretty sure an OPS+ of 117 is offering above average offensively. Just sayin.
The biggest tr0ll
I just think they are aging and there’s not a ton of youth noticeably on their MLB roster. The division has gotten more competitive. They may still have a couple more years, but other teams are going to start catching up to them. They should’ve never lost to the Mets in the playoffs but their flaws are starting to show
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
The Phillies are getting old with Harper and turner and schwarber and realmuto and castellanos and wheeler and Nola getting up there in the 30s
Granted old teams can still do well like the warriors in the nba a few seasons ago but this could be the Phillies last dance at 100 wins
G.M. Ima Scapegoat
They have enough money coming off the books the next 2 off seasons and the willingness to spend to retool quickly around Harper, Turner, Nola etc.
Rexhudler86
More of regrets for trading o’hoppe away.
Lindor's Bodyguard
I could see that. PCA anyone?
Old York
Guy’s cooked!
metsin4
Harper needs to play some games in the outfield to give Realmuto some starts at 1b.
christopher8002
The only concern with Marchan at this point is him staying healthy. … If he’s healthy, he’s absolutely ready to catch 50 games in 2025 and should be above average offensively and defensively. Either way, Phillies need to find out about Marchan and whether he can take the wear and tear THIS season.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
In other Breaking News……=)
whyhayzee
And Fisk played until he was 46. Sigh.
whyhayzee
At 42, caught 116 games and even stole 7 bases.
Sigh.
whyhayzee
But today’s players are better athletes. Sigh.
Old York
@whyhayzee
They don’t make ballplayers like they used to. I blame it on the decline of family owned farms and players being greedy just to play a kid’s sport.
Samuel
Reading the articles and posts here, I thought the Phillies were trading Realmuto.
Phillls
They would get nothing for him, same as when they traded away the declining high priced veterans Daulton and Ruiz
Cambo
If that is the plan not sure why they brought Stubbs back.
Heels On The Field
With Taijuan Walker having nothing to do but finish out lost games,, yeah they don’t need Stubbs.
whosehighpitch
Then they better get a legitimate backup catcher and depth in the minor league level. Stubbs is great for the clubhouse and seems to be the life of the party but it does not translate to winning games. Marchan is not a big league staring catcher. Never should have traded O Hoppe for Synderrgard or Marsh or whatever the heck they got for him.
longines64
Whatever they do to improve it has to start with making contact and putting the ball in play. 16 Ks a game won’t get you to the LCS.
609Collectibles
Marchan is out of options so they agreed to a split contract with Garrett Stubbs. Like that Stubbs can be shuffled back and forth from AAA to MLB as needed. Almost like having a scout down there, as Stubbs will get a look at the Phillies top pitching prospects. Marchan has been impressive in his stints at the Show, don’t be surprised to see him catching approx half of the Phillies games this year. JT will probably get some reps at 1B this year too.
Heels On The Field
Realmuto runs well so how about LF. It seems the Phillies have no plan to do anything about the holes in the outfield.