As Nolan Arenado’s trade market continues to percolate, the no-trade clause in the third baseman’s contract puts Arenado and his camp in the driver’s seat when it comes to determining whether or not he’ll leave the Cardinals. MLB.com’s John Denton reports that Arenado would okay a deal to any of the Angels, Dodgers, Padres, Phillies, Mets, or Red Sox. It isn’t known if these are the only six clubs on what Denton describes as Arenado’s “wish list,” or if Arenado could be amenable to deals to any other clubs in the right circumstances.
Agent Joel Wolfe discussed his client’s situation with reporters (including Denton, Jeff Jones of the Belleville News-Democrat, and Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch) today at the Winter Meetings, and implied that Arenado’s list of potential teams is “bigger than you would think.” The chief factor in Arenado’s decision-making is finding “a team that he thinks is going to win now and consistently for the remainder of his career. He wants a team that has the throttle down….that he believes he can jump right in and they’re going to win right now.”
This all being said, Wolfe noted that Arenado is “not going to go just to go,” or “approve and move his family and go play somewhere that would…sidestepping” into a situation no better than his current spot in St. Louis. Wolfe said he and Arenado have been in regular dialogue with Cardinals president of baseball operations John Mozeliak, with Mozeliak floating some teams that have already been dismissed as “hard no’s of where he’d prefer not to go.”
Earlier reports indicated that three unknown “mid-market” clubs also had interest in Arenado’s services, so these could be some of the teams Arenado has already vetoed since the six teams on his list are bigger spenders. The Yankees had also been linked to Arenado and Goold reports that the Cardinals were in touch with the Bronx Bombers about the third baseman. As Jones notes, the Yankees seem like a fit on paper given their need at third base and the presence of Arenado’s good friend and old Rockies teammates DJ LeMahieu, but it remains to be seen if the Yankees are still on Arenado’s radar.
New York’s other team could also have an opening at the hot corner depending on how the Mets choose to deploy Mark Vientos, or whether or not the Mets re-sign Pete Alonso or add another big first base bat. The Phillies likewise have an incumbent third baseman in Alec Bohm, but Bohm’s name has been mentioned in several trade rumors as one of the big-league roster pieces Philadelphia is reportedly open to moving to address other needs.
The Red Sox and Padres were more speculatively linked as suitors a few weeks ago, and Goold reports that St. Louis has already been in contact with these two clubs about Arenado. Boston’s interest could hinge on whether or not they’d move Rafael Devers off third base, while Arenado’s own apparent willingness to leave his longtime third-base position might be related to his interest in joining the Padres (as San Diego already has a star third baseman in Manny Machado).
Wolfe addressed his client’s offer of a position change as a way to get in front of any awkward questions from a team’s end on the subject. “The way he phrased it, ‘I’ll play first,’ sometimes [teams] don’t want to ask a player to do that,” Wolfe said. “So he wanted to offer it and say, ‘I’m happy to play first, I can move around and play third.’ Nolan was like, ‘I’ll play shortstop, I’ll do whatever, but I’m not insulted to go play first, and I can win a Gold Glove over there, if that’s what it takes.’ ”
Since Arenado is from Southern California, it shouldn’t be ignored that the Padres, Dodgers, and Angels are all on his approval list, though Wolfe said Arenado has no geographic preference about his next destination. It could be argued that the Angels might be on Arenado’s list solely due to location, as a team coming off nine straight losing seasons hardly seems to match Arenado’s preference for a team ready to win.
A trade to the Dodgers seems off the table, as The Athletic’s Fabian Ardaya and Katie Woo hears from sources that “a deal for Arenado is not a possibility the organization has considered.” L.A. general manager Brandon Gomes made a point of saying Monday that Max Muncy was going to remain as the team’s regular third baseman, and a position switch wouldn’t much help Arenado find a spot amidst the crowded Dodgers infield.
It remains to be seen if any of Arenado’s preferred teams may or may not want to bring the eight-time All-Star into the fold, though even in the event of mutual interest, there’s also the matter of working out a trade that is also acceptable to the Cardinals. Other complications include Arenado’s age (he turns 34 in April), his declining power over the last two season, and the $74MM ($10MM covered by the Rockies) in salary owed over the remaining three years of his contract.
tikiagedola
Stop acting like you call the shots, Mr. Extremely overrated product of Coors field. You have no value
BITA
Nathan Eovaldi just got 3 years 75 million. Arenado is owed 3 years 64 million from the Cardinals.
I think i would rather have Arenado than Eovaldi.
Earlier in the offseason I thought he had negative trade value. Now I am not so sure probably neutral at this point.
C-Daddy
Him having the best season of his career as a Cardinal in 2022 kinda refutes the whole “product of Coors Field” thing.
tikiagedola
If I don’t study for a test and get an A, does that prove I don’t need to study?
The biggest tr0ll
“Products of Coors Field” has always been a myth because the reality is that everyone plays there. It’s no different when a road team comes to Coors and their numbers adapt because of it. Everyone adjusts
BlooperDisbeliever
He can’t tell the Cardinals how to use him, but he’s still an elite defender and at least an average bat. When it comes to where he nay go he 100% controls what happens. Not sure what your vendetta against Arenado is about.
MarTang
Very much Wrong
His present in the locker room is a Biggie and if the Cardinals pick up 5 million of his salary a bargain for whoever trades for him—He’s a Winner trapped on a losing team—Being a Cardinal Fan it’s hard saying losing team ♂️
BITA
I would be very surprised if he approved a deal to the Angels. And I think the Yankees are the best fit for him i would be surprised if he wouldn’t accept a trade there. Padres just don’t make sense they have Machado. Phillies maybe but probably not they have Bohm they don’t need him. Red Sox maybe but they would need to move Devers off of 3b and his agent was talking like that would be a problem.
Suitcase Simpson
he’s from orange county. if he can’t play somewhere to win a world series then he wants to go back home.
BITA
The whole point of trading him is he wants to play for a winner. He’s intense I don’t think he wants to go to the Angels.
terry g
He’s stated he would be okay being traded to the Angels, Dodgers, Padres, Phillies, Mets, or Red Sox. It’s up to the team to decide if they can match up with those teams.
He hasn’t asked to be traded this time. The last time he wanted to go to a completive team. Who knows if that’s still true. I would guess not since one of the teams is the Angels.
Aussie_dodger
I honestly don’t want him.
I admire him and think he’s a great player, but he’s at back end of his career. I don’t think he fits.
Muncy might not be great but I know he means so much to the club house.
BITA
Muncy is good and all but I would take Arenado over Muncy. But I don’t think it’s worth the effort to make a deal for the Dodgers. Muncy is a good player.
rct
Muncy will make $14 million next season with no long term commitment. He had more WAR than Arenado in half a season and a 141 OPS+. Give me Muncy over Arenado any day of the week.
BITA
Muncy only played half the season. I will take Arenado eventhough I don’t think it’s worth the effort to make a deal.
rct
I know he only played half the season. He was still worth more than Arenado, who played the full season. Arenado’s bat is seriously declining and he costs a lot more money and has another year on it. Give me the better, cheaper player that you don’t have to give up anything to acquire.
BITA
Fangraphs has Arenado at 3.1 Muncy 2.4.
Arenado took bad at bats last year. I don’t think it’s a physical issue I think a good hitting coach could fix him.
I don’t think the acquiring team would have to give up much of anything to get him. I think his value is basically neutral at this point. So just take the salary or Cardinals pay some and get prospects.
El Kabong
Why would a winning team like the Dodgers take on the salary of a neutral-value player? Their goal is to compete for another championship, not bail out the Cardinals.
SFGRab
The chief factor in Arenado’s decision-making is finding “a team that he thinks is going to win now and consistently for the remainder of his career. He wants a team that has the throttle down….that he believes he can jump right in and they’re going to win right now.”
The Angels? Hope he has no GM aspirations after his playing career is over.
BITA
If it comes down to throttle that gives the edge to the Red Sox since they are full of it.
DonOsbourne
Lots of contradictions in this report. Someone is playing games.
Wire to wire 2024
So basically he’s gonna be a dodger
rct
Vientos at 1B and Arenado at 3B would be a downgrade for the Mets.
Using their 2024 stats:
Vientos 2024 WAR (extrapolated to a full season) – 4.5
Alonso – 2.6
Arenado – 2.5
So a combination of Vientos/Alonso is more valuable than a combination of Arenado/Vientos, and that’s not even including that Vientos’s value would be blunted by the move to 1B. Why trade a prospect and pay Arenado a ton of money of the next two years when you could just re-sign Alonso? Or sign Christian Walker? Can’t imagine the Mets have interest here.
BITA
I think assuming Vientos can outproduce Arenado in 2025 is a big assumption. And I think Alonso is going to get a huge contract. Walker is probably looking at a contract similar to whst Arenado is owed(3 years 64).
rct
“I think assuming Vientos can outproduce Arenado in 2025 is a big assumption.”
What? He literally just did by a sizeable margin considering that Vientos only played 111 games. I have no idea why you would think that Arenado would be better than Vientos in 2025.
BITA
Vientos was a negative WAR player in 2023. He’s had 1 good season and it wasn’t even a full season. Like I said I wouldn’t go assuming he’s better than Arenado at this point.
BCleveland3381
I think if any contending team traded for Arenado, their fan base would all get a collective “pit in the stomach” feeling. He’s been a great player and great 3B, but that decline is legit and he feels like the kind of guy that will fall off a cliff at any time.
BITA
Decline from what his MVP caliber 2022 season? He’s a bit inconsistent. Specifically on offense he was swinging at garbage all last year. I don’t think it was a physical issue he just took poor at bats.
Luke Strong
Hard pass. He’s in serious decline and it’s only going to get worse. STL is hoping a sucker will take that contract. His value at this point is entirely in name only.
tikiagedola
1 year makes a serious decline? You would have said that about a lot of former superstars.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Go read the Bsseball Reference for Arenado and stop being aggressively ignorant.
Russell Branyan
Cardinals are a day late and a dollar short on trading him. I don’t understand why he’d be anything but a contender’s last resort.
It’s very unlikely he turns back the clock 2 years, so you’re just hoping he doesn’t fall of further and you have league average starter at a star’s salary.
Blue Baron
Interesting that it’s the Mets and not the Yankees.
davemlaw
The Mariners could use him and they have the pitching needed for a deep postseason run. If the Cards took back Haniger it’d work. Arenado still has game.
Mehmehmeh
I respect the player for his past excellence and he earned the right to be selective with the no trade clause in his contract. It might be agent BS but the “throttle down” comment made me laugh shortly after I saw LAA listed. Just come out and say “socal would be nice.”
Astros_fan_in_Aus
He only wants to go to a team which will “win right now”, yet the list includes Angels, Red Sox and Phillies ? I don’t think he has been paying attention.
BlooperDisbeliever
Angels have an underrated amount of talent right now, you’d be surprised.
gold masters
The angels should get him. Rendon can be utility. Wait a minute, rendon is utility, barely.
Astros_fan_in_Aus
Great player, but it appears time is catching up with him…fast. It could be a Jose Abreu signing all over again.
Giant Willy
Dodgers will get him
El Kabong
The Dodgers’ priorities are adding an outfielder and shoring up the bullpen. They don’t need Arenado or have a spot for him to play.
Giant Willy
The dodgers will get him anyway
Harrison Butker's Mount Rushmore Worthy Speech
You know. Crazier things have happened.
Machado use to be to a pretty decent ss in his own right.
Do the padres move machado to ss to accommodate arenado and his defense?
3B arenado, SS Machado, 2B Bogaerts.
Do the padres try Arenado at 2B?
3B Machado, SS Bogaerts, 2B Arenado.
Feel like sticking him at 1B is just a rerun of Jake Cronenworth and a waste of his talents from a defensive stand point.
Dan oleson
Warren and a lower level B prospect should get it done for the Yankees…
Ozzie Canseco
Mark Polishuk, don’t use a comma before “or”
Lindor's Bodyguard
You should consider paying the $3 per month for mlbtr, instead of complaining about commas.