The Cubs pulled off a huge deal last week, acquiring outfielder Kyle Tucker from the Cubs in exchange for third baseman Isaac Paredes, right-hander Hayden Wesneski and prospect Cam Smith. President of baseball operations Jed Hoyer spoke to members of the media today (including Meghan Montemurro of the Chicago Tribune, Bruce Levine of 670 The Score and Maddie Lee of the Chicago Sun-Times), addressing Tucker and the club’s corner infield options.
While Tucker is a big upgrade for the 2025 team, he is set to be a free agent after that. That means he doesn’t currently provide the Cubs any value beyond the upcoming season, apart from the extra draft pick they would receive if he rejects a qualifying offer at season’s end and then signs elsewhere.
The Cubs could always change that future by signing Tucker to an extension, something that Hoyer touched upon a bit. “I don’t know what the future holds,” he said. “But obviously Chicago sells itself really well. And so, I’m excited to bring him in for this year, and we’ll see where it goes beyond that. But clearly this was the kind of player that we lacked.”
It’s fair to assume that the Cubs would love to have Tucker beyond just the one year. They clearly value the player highly, based on the strong package of talent they gave up just for that one season, plus the aforementioned QO compensation. Tucker himself also spoke today (per Levine) and said he’s open to having talks before he hits the open market.
While it’s nice that Tucker is open to having talks, agreeing on a price point might be a challenge. Tucker has been one of the better players in baseball in recent years and is slated to hit free agency ahead of his age-29 season. To get a really good player to sign an extension just before hitting free agency ahead of his 30th birthday isn’t cheap, as shown in MLBTR’s Contract Tracker. Some recent examples include $365MM for Mookie Betts, $341MM for Francisco Lindor and $313.5MM for Rafael Devers.
It’s a somewhat similar situation to the one that just played out between Juan Soto and the Yankees. He was acquired from the Padres with one year remaining before hitting free agency, said he was open to contract talks at any time, but ultimately became a free agent and signed a mega deal with the Mets.
With the Cubs, it’s arguably even less likely to get done. Tucker’s earning power isn’t as high as Soto’s but the Cubs have never given out deals even to that Betts/Lindor/Devers level. Jason Heyward’s $184MM deal is still the largest in franchise history, even though it’s almost a decade old at this point. Since Hoyer took over, the club’s largest deal has been $177MM for Dansby Swanson, the only time he’s gone higher than $85MM. Perhaps they are willing to break that pattern for Tucker, who they clearly like, but it would likely require them to effectively double the Heyward/Swanson deals.
Hoyer also addressed the third base situation at Wrigley, as trading Paredes created an opening there. It has been expected that the club would be willing to give prospect Matt Shaw to take that spot. Hoyer seems to be open to that coming to pass, saying that Shaw would get a “long look”, though he wouldn’t just call it a done deal. “He has to earn that job,” Hoyer said. “I’m not going to gift him that on a conference call in the middle of December.”
That’s a fair position to take. Though Shaw has performed very well in the minors, even the best prospects can struggle when first called up to the majors, so nothing can be taken for granted. Selected 13th overall last summer, Shaw has slashed .303/.384/.522 so far in 159 minor league games across different levels. That includes a line of .298/.395/.534 in 35 Triple-A games to finish his 2024 season, so there’s definitely an argument for him cracking the majors to start 2025.
But since there’s no guarantee he will hit the ground running, the Cubs will need to have backup plans. The Cubs had six players spend at least 85 innings at third this year, but Miles Mastrobuoni is the only one of the six left on the roster. As mentioned, Paredes was in the Tucker deal. The Cubs traded Christopher Morel to the Rays in order to acquire Paredes in the first place. Nick Madrigal and Patrick Wisdom were non-tendered at season’s end. David Bote was outrighted off the roster in August.
Infielder Gage Workman was just grabbed from the Tigers in the Rule 5 draft, so he has a roster spot for now, but he doesn’t have any major league nor any Triple-A experience. Ben Cowles and Luis Vázquez are other multi-positional infielders currently on the 40-man. Perhaps the Cubs will look at adding to that group by signing a veteran utility man, whether that’s to a modest major league deal or a minor league pact.
One thing that is apparently not under consideration is moving Michael Busch across the diamond. The club had an outfield logjam but Cody Bellinger can play first, so it was theoretically possible for them to open that spot for Bellinger by moving Busch to the hot corner, a position where he has 99 1/3 innings of major league experience. But Busch got strong grades for his first base defense this year and Hoyer suggested their focus would be keeping him there. Bellinger was traded to the Yankees after Hoyer’s comments this afternoon.
Unrelated to Hoyer’s comments, there was another Cubs tidbit of note this week. Patrick Mooney and Sahadev Sharma of The Athletic report that the club has considered the possibility of stretching out right-hander Nate Pearson as a starter.
There’s some merit to the plan but it may be difficult to pull off. Pearson was a starting pitching prospect of note with the Blue Jays before injuries pushed him into a relief role. As recently as July, he expressed an interest in returning to a rotation role, shortly before he was traded to the Cubs.
Bullpen-to-rotation conversions have been all the rage lately. Some recent success stories have included Michael King, Seth Lugo, Reynaldo López, Garrett Crochet and others. It doesn’t always work, with the A.J. Puk experiment one attempt that didn’t pan out, but clubs seem to be warm to the idea. The Mets have signed Clay Holmes with a plan of stretching him out next year and there have been some reports suggesting Jeff Hoffman might get a rotation gig next year as well.
With Pearson, it’s tough to see a path next year. The Cubs already have Shota Imanaga, Justin Steele, Matthew Boyd, Jameson Taillon and Javier Assad in the rotation, with reported interest in Jesús Luzardo of the Marlins as well. They also have Jordan Wicks, Ben Brown, Cade Horton and other potential starters around, so all those guys might not leave a lot of room for Pearson to get big league starts. As such, Mooney and Sharma admit that Pearson is most likely to stick in a relief role next year.
whosehighpitch
Jed should be discussing his plans after the Cubs fire him sometime in the summer. What a bizarre off season
MLB Top 100 Commenter
So far, I give the Cubs a B+ for the off-season.
They need to use the Belli savings for a couple back-end relievers.
Resist trading Cassie, Horton or Ballesteros.
Cut Mastrobuoni.
kidbryant
Ballesteros can go … He doesn’t have a glove worthy of the MLB and his bat is a little overrated as well.
Unclemike1526
Every time Jed talks my IQ drops. I never heard a guy use so many words to say nothing important.
Dogbone
I guess that explains it, unc!!! (LOL). Merry Christmas.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
When Suzuki is gone, Ballesteros will become the DH. Bat is not overrated.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Or in the 75% that Tucker leaves after a year, Suzuki goes back for corner outfield and Ballesteros to DH.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
It is ok if Tucker plays RF in 2025, and Suzuki or Caissie play RF in 2026. A Tucker extension would just be gravy.
Lionoflambs
I’m more interested in how the Cubs acquired Kyle Tucker from the Cubs for the prospects mentioned in the first paragraph… that’s extremely interesting
NoNeckWilliams
Jed Hoyer is an idiot.
mlbnyyfan
What are the chances Tucker stays in Chicago? I’m hoping the Yankees try and get him next winter. Next off season, the Yankees will be one year closer to being rid of DJL and Stanton.
kgcubs
Aloha mlbnyy, that is a big possibility. By not signing Soto, your Yankees could get a Tucker who is also a good fielder. If Ricketts signals he’s not going to spend, NYY should definitely sweep in a make a strong move in free agency. The only way, imho that my Cubs retain Tucker is if they get an extension. But Tucker has said he wants to go into free agency next off season. Mahalo
kidbryant
Tucker actually NEVER said that he wanted to test free agency. He said just today that he would like to talk extension with the Cubs.
Mynameisnoname
If you watch the clip it’s pretty awkward. He of course would listen to godfather offers, but Soto just reset the market in a way that scared Houston enough to make Tucker available in the first place.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Jim Crane has a longstanding policy of never going over six years for a player. That would be a non-starter for any extension talks with Tucker.
Mynameisnoname
For sure, HOU typically stays out of the deep end of the pool, but they made it seem like Tucker was going to be an exception during pressers last year. I’m guessing they were thinking ~250-300mil but Soto’s final tally made that obviously too low.
mad1
Zero chance he stays
Unclemike1526
Hoyer already said in an interview he would have still made the trade if he knew he was only going to be here 1 year. Tells you everything you need to know right there.
bigdaddyt
Could I interest you to do a 2 for one. Cubs and jays are good trade partners, cubs get Shatkins for Hoyer. Not saying Hoyer is anything special but beats the hell outta whatever it is the jays are trying to do
roob
You’re nuts! He’s been awesome. This is a great move for the Cubs and he’s definitely on the path to making this team a deep playoff team. Great job.
mad1
Now that’s funny
BITA
I think the Cubs made a good trade getting Tucker. Not a huge fan of the Boyd signing but it wasn’t terrible. They need pen help get that and another starter and an ok 3b placeholder and it looks like a good team best in the NL Central.
kidbryant
Already have Shaw ready to take over at 3rd. Don’t need a placeholder there.
BITA
Shawn might not be ready thats why they are still looking at 3b. Like I said placeholder……for Shaw………
16
He’s ready…they just don’t want to give it to him, want him to earn it in spring.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Kid
Triantos can play 3B in case of a Shaw injury.
kgcubs
Aloha folks, as a Cub fan, we can’t assume that the current ownership will give Tucker a $400-500mil+ extension or resign him after next year. It’s one reason why I wish Jed held his ground in not sending Cam Smith but Houston could have an Alcantara, Rojas Triantos 2 out of those 3. We have to see this as a rental. A nice upgrade yes, but a rental nonetheless. I hope Jed doesn’t trade away Nico now, because then we what ifs at 3rd and 2nd. And again, I don’t see this ownership opening up the checkbook. I hope I’m wrong and that they have a plan in place for giving up so much. Maybe by June/July 2025 they’ll have an extension in place for Tucker. We’ll see. Mahalo and go Cubs!
TigersLoveCinnamon
I ran out of breath trying to read that. Sentences, and paragraphs exist dude
Unclemike1526
It’s the content not the commas that are important Tigers.
kgcubs
Aloha Tiger, writing on a small device. Will try to break it up next time, lol! Good luck to your Tigers good looking team. Sorry about Baez. Mahalo
Dogbone
Aloha kgcubs,
I sure agree with you about Cam Smith.
Smith seems to be someone who a team might be able to build around.
lowtalker1
They are probably in a comparable standpoint addition and subtraction
Cubsinmn
I have no idea what they are doing. What exactly is their direction?
kgcubs
Aloha Cubsinmn, exactly! This is not our 2015 Cubs, only a few pieces needed to push for a championship. Further more, Tucker is a rental, so there’s pressure now to build a “championship” team in order to compete. If they lose Tucker after this season, that’s it. I hope they let fans know what their plan is. Mahalo and go Cubs.
TigersLoveCinnamon
Just stop
RoastGobot
‘The Cubs pulled off a huge deal last week, acquiring outfielder Kyle Tucker from the Cubs in exchange for…’
First sentence!
phenomenalajs
I’m schizophrenic and so am I!
Yanks4life22
Busch isn’t an everyday option TBH. It’s just posturing. I imagine they are after Bregman with a potential pivot to Alonso.
16
Stupid comment; Busch was a rookie and played top 10 at the position with very good defense for the first time ever playing extended time.
Yanks4life22
26 year old rookie so not really a rookie just a quad-A player….versatile glove, low OBP, high K-rate, platoon bat who has a noodle bat against lefties (22 of 23 career home runs versus righties) but has some pop against righty’s which plenty of bench/platoon guys can do.
But….hes cheap. So…..
He will get AB’s versus righty’s while he sits versus lefties. What’s that sound like champ? Uh oh that sounds like that isn’t an everyday option which is exactly what I wrote. Reading comprehension sport!!!
mbart33
We just saved 22 million on belly deal -we could add a third baseman or closer-always use walker
greyishwhitesox
So the cubs traded to themselves? Does no one proofread your stuff?
rememberthecoop
First off, Darragh, fix the first sentence. I doubt the Cubs got Tucker from the Cubs. But that aside, one thing I can’t stand is how pretentious Jed is. Despite what happened last year, he stubbornly refused to ever blame the bullpen, because then he’d be accepting accountability, something he refuses to do..The Cubs lost so many games late – I lost count at 27- and yet here we are without a closer once again. I’m sure Hoyer thinks he can roll with Hodge in that role, just so he can show how much smarter he is than everyone else in the room.
Dogbone
Pretentious! Do you ever read your comments here.
That’s rich. You’re calling Jed, pretentious.
You do realize Jed has some credibility.
BronxBombers23
“Tucker himself also spoke today (per Levine) and said he’s open to having talks before he hits the open market.“
And people said he will definitely test free agency….
watchingthefray
The way things are going, if a team has a couple starters who can consistently give you 5-6 innings, and another four who can give you at least 3-4 solid innings, you could have a pretty good staff with a decent back end.
Acoss1331
Bullpen arms are needed. Hoyer can chase Roki Sasaki, no problem with that, but the money he saved from Bellinger should be for more bullpen arms. Boyd can’t be the only arm he gets, no dumpster diving…
draker
Seems like Whit Merrifield might be a good pickup for the Cubs as a little infield insurance in case Shaw isn’t ready. Still has good speed and lots of versatility.
leftcoaster
Scott or Estevez should be priorities.
Yanks4life22
The more I look at this roster the more I like it. They need one more big bat but they can find that at the corners. This staff is going to be gold too. Potent 1-2 punch in Steele/Imanaga and if Taillon and Cortes are your 3-4 that’s a nice luxury. Assad can slide in a long relief role left by Wesneski. Wouldn’t be surprised either if they land an experienced closer soon via trade or free agency. 1 year shot to go for it with no impact on the future. Not bad.
Devlsh
From my recollection, this has been the Cubs modus operandi before when it came to the corner infield, handing the 1B/3B positions to guys with little experience and (prior to 2024) very little major league caliber depth to fall back on in case they failed.
In 2022. and 2023, off the top of my head I can think of Mancini, Madrigal, Morel, Mastrobuoni, Mervis (the Cubs are fond of M’s), Wisdom, Rivas, Bote and I’m pretty sure I’ve forgotten at least one 1B. Until 2024 when Busch survived the trial by fire (with a legitimate fallback in Bellinger on hand), virtually all of them failed and there was little to fall back on when they did except to trade for an in-season solution (Candelario, Schwindel, Paredes more recently).
Unless the Cubs sign a legitimate first baseman/third baseman before the season, they would seem to be following the same path.
1999 MLB All Star MVP
This was a great trade for the Cubs. Tucker is a legitimate MVP candidate!
I’d like to see them trade for Luis Robert Jr. to play LF and David Hamilton to play CF. That outfield would be an insane combination of speed and power that not many teams could match.