The Cubs have been extremely active on the trade market over the past week, but it seems their latest deal may have hit a snag. Bruce Levine of 670 The Score said on air this morning that Chicago’s talks for Marlins lefty Jesus Luzardo “appear to be dead” after having some serious momentum earlier in the week (audio link, Luzardo talk around the 2:13:45 mark). It’s not entirely clear whether the parties will seek to rekindle negotiations, but Levine suggests that medical reviews on one side or the other could have thrown a wrench into talks.
The natural inclination for many will be to presume that Luzardo’s medical records proved to be the hitch, but there’s no firm indication that’s the case. It’s every bit as possible that the Marlins took a look at medical records on one of the prospects who was a focal point in the proposed return and balked at what they saw.
Luzardo, 27, has repeatedly demonstrated front-of-the-rotation potential but hasn’t been able to consistently deliver results at that level — often due to injuries. He posted a 3.48 ERA with an excellent 28.7% strikeout rate against a sharp 7.9% walk rate in 279 innings from 2022-23 but missed time along the way due to a forearm strain. Luzardo, who had Tommy John surgery as a prospect, also spent time on the injured list early in 2024 due to elbow tightness. He returned and pitched well — 3.98 ERA over his next seven starts — only to land back on the injured list in mid-June with a lumbar stress reaction that wound up ending his season.
Luzardo has only reached 100 big league innings twice in his career and has only started more than 18 games in the majors once. Including minor league work, he topped 100 innings each year from 2021-23, but those are his only professional seasons doing so. His 178 2/3 innings from 2023 are far and away a career-high mark.
Durability concerns notwithstanding, prime-aged lefties who average around 96 mph on their heater while boasting plus swinging-strike and strikeout rates alike are rare. Add Luzardo’s at least average command into the mix, and the potential for him to emerge as a bona fide star is clear. He was a top-100 draft pick and one of the top pitching prospects in baseball prior to his debut, after all. However, keeping him healthy has been a difficult task for the A’s and Marlins alike.
Even if it was Luzardo’s medicals that held up a potential deal — and again, we decidedly do not know that to be the case — that doesn’t eliminate the possibility of a trade sending him elsewhere. We’ve seen plenty of past instances where one team backs out of a deal based on a player’s medicals while another club finds them acceptable. For instance, the Yankees reportedly nixed a trade for Jack Flaherty over the summer due to medical concerns. The Dodgers were comfortable enough making a deal and got 10 regular season starts out of Flaherty, plus another five in the postseason. Different teams have different thresholds, and everything that’s taken into consideration is done so relative to the valuation of the players going the other direction in the deal.
As for the Cubs and what might be next if the Luzardo talks can’t be revived — that’s an open question. The trade of Cody Bellinger trimmed $25MM of his $27.5MM salary from the books, giving Chicago plenty of flexibility. RosterResource estimates their current payroll to be around $174MM, with just over $191MM of luxury obligations. That puts the Cubs roughly $50MM shy of the first luxury threshold. At least on paper, that leaves room to add virtually any free agent without needing to worry about the luxury tax, though Levine pushes back strongly on the idea of Chicago making a run at Corbin Burnes.
There’s a clear need for bullpen help and a strong likelihood that the Cubs will jump into the market for some notable late-inning options. History suggests that president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer will prefer to keep any free agent commitments there to the short-term variety. Hoyer has not given out a multi-year deal to a reliever since taking over baseball operations in Chicago. Kirby Yates, old friend David Robertson and Kenley Jansen are among the older but still-effective closing options who could be had on short-term deals. If the Cubs are willing to break from their past behavior on the relief market and pursue larger-scale targets, then names like Tanner Scott, Jeff Hoffman and Carlos Estevez currently top the market.
Jonathan (NYSportsFan4Life)
Luzardo would be better off in BAL anyways even as a Yankees fan, they need an ace and for Mike Elias’s sake it’s the right fit.
jbigz12
They’d have to be willing to take a Beavers/Povich type package because Mayo and Basallo aren’t going anywhere for Luzardo.
King Floch
I’m not even sure I would do Beavers/Povich for Luzardo at this stage.
jbigz12
Fair. I’m on the fence. Luzardo in his old form would be worth that give to me. I think Povich will be a crafty #4 starter in this league. Given what they’re paid now the 2nd piece might be lighter than that.
I don’t think Beavers is going to be an impactful big league starter though. He seems like a platoon/4th OF type to me.
jbigz12
I may be low on Beavers though. He definitely has some prospect shine.
Definitely would do the deal if the 2nd guy was Fabian. I’m completely out on the swing and miss there. Think he’s another Norby/Stowers with too many whiffs.
But we’ll see what Elias thinks about Luzardo. If he thinks he’s fixable then that’s a dice roll I’d take with Eovaldi getting 3/$75
rondon
I’m glad the Cubs are out. I don’t know why anyone would trade for a guy who is an injury waiting to happen.
saj
bc you pay him for 2 war and he will give you 2-5
cplwhite
Because Hoyer is an idiot
Fred K. Burke
The health and injury risk with Luzardo is greater than the potential rewards. Cubs have had enough injuries to their pitching staff.
kzw
@rondon…it sucks dealing with pitchers anymore. Trading for a guy with 2-3 years of control is such a gamble. Even signing someone for 5 years, teams almost have to go into negotiations under the assumption that 1.5 of those years are lost. But I do agree…Luzardo is a sneeze away from throwing out his back.
danumd87 2
I don’t think the marlins are going to even get Povich and beavers level guys.
jbigz12
. Norby was close to Beavers level last year and the price of FA starters went up this offseason.
I think Luzardo’s ceiling is higher than either Povich or Beavers but you may be right.
jbigz12
Though I think Beavers is more likely to be a ML contributor since his swing and miss isn’t at Norby’s level and he plays solid D.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Cubs should be looking at Kittridge, Minter, Tanner Scott and Estevez. This is what the Belli savings should be used for.
Dogbone
Yes, Cubs should stay far away from him. They also need to stop overpaying from their stash of top minor league talent. This summer should give their front office a much better idea of what these AA and AAA prospects are likely to become.
The Natural
@Top 100. Agree and my guess is that freeing up the Bellinger money has as much to do with the Luzardo move cooling as his medicals did. They can aim higher for a SP now and a couple nice bullpen guys.
Seems to me like until Roki gets inked, the SP market will slow way down.
Unclemike1526
I’m also glad the Cubs are out. But I also know when I read about trades that fall through they usually happen the next day. The Cubs need Luzardo like a duck needs water wings. But that’s Hoyer. No plan just chase shiny trinkets. But this one has no shine left and the Cubs don’t need another LH starter. Now if it was Alcantara, That would be worth something. How about an Alcantara for Alcantara swap with the Cubs tossing some more. That’s what Hoyer should be talking about.
Drasco0366
Yeah, the Cubs don’t need any relievers with minor league option. That would be stupid.
You may comment a lot, but your comments are garbage.
Respectfully,
Me
Unclemike1526
Who me? I’m the one who’s saying the Cubs need relievers. Luzardo isn’t a reliever and isn’t needed IMO. I’m the one leading the Tanner Scott parade.
Drasco0366
Mike,
Not you.
Drasco0366
Mike, unless you think the Cubs can sign 3 relievers to major league deals and then run a bullpen with 6 guys without minor league options. Then, yes you… minus the comments being garbage part.
Unclemike1526
Look I just think Hoyer has to get off his sack and sign a Closer. Scott would be perfect. Gives Counsell a LH Closer to pair with Hodge who can step in and get 3 tough Righties out so Scott doesn’t have to and gives Counsell options. He needs to get over his Closer phobia. Plus it doesn’t put the whole burden on Hodge. Obviously he likes Morgan who has an option left plus the guys the Cubs already have have some options. But hey if he can get ome arms with options be my guest. But they’re hard to find.
Drasco0366
Morgan, Little and Pearson have options.
Hodge should be considered non-optional
Thompson, Merryweather, Miller, Rob Z are without options.
Rob Z and one of Merryweather or Thompson can be replaced. However we also still have a ton of arms such as Wicks, Brown, Poteet and Roberts.
The way I see it, you can add one high leverage arm in free agency (replaces Rob Z) and either Merryweather or Thompson need to be DFA or traded at some point because you need guys with minor league options to cover.
Unclemike1526
Yeah see my answer to Robert. And i forgot Roberts who has options too. You’re right Merryweather and Zastryzny should be considered one time ony uses. Use them until they outlive their usefulness and then DFA them both. I’m not sure why they signed Zastryzny anyway. But that’s Jed. If Jed likes you- Job for life.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I suggested four possible targets for Cubs, not acquiring ALL of them. No one else read it that way. Tanner Scott or Estevez seem like decent options.
robert-5
Hoffman and Scott or Minter would be fantastic and provide some insurance if the plan is to keep Hodge as the closer.
But I think we all Jed won’t spend that kind of $ on relievers.
Unclemike1526
Robert- I’m looking at it this way. The way it is now if Hoyer signs Tanner Scott, Those guys aren’t necessary. Hoffman wants to start and Minter could be an injury risk too. The way it would shake out right now if we had Scott would be :
Closer- Scott
8th- Hodge
6th& 7th-Little/Morgan/Pearson/Merryweather,Miller
I can live with that.
If they can move Merryweather and get another high end arm with options OK.
Then you still have, Arias, Palencia, Scalzo, Thompson, Neely, Zastrysny, Poteet? Not really sure what Poteet is or Morgan for that matter.
It can surely be added to but like Dtas says sign guys with options not guys who are old. No benefit.
mike127
Uncle–sign a starter along with Scott and there are three names that you haven’t mentioned that absolutely become anchors of the pen leading up to Scott:
Assad, Wicks, and Brown.
They still need to do something to make Taillon and Boyd nothing better than #4 and #5.
And, I agree with Dras—need guys with options. Brown, Wicks, Assad, Poteet, Kilian, Wicks, Arias, Neely, Palencia, Roberts, Little, Hodge, Morgan, Pearson all have options.
Miller, Zastryzny, Merryweather, Thompson do not.
Unclemike1526
Wicks should be trade bait with all the LH pitching they have or should start at Iowa with Brown unless they dazzle in ST. If I had my picks in FA with the money they now have I’d sign Scott and Buehler and call it a day as far as pitching goes. Plus you still have Birdsell] and Noland at AAA that I didn’t even mention. But yeah I agree. Still have to figure somebody will not make it out off ST with some kind of injury.
Fred K. Burke
Since the Belli trade. The Cubs have around 50 million to spend before the tax bracket. Sign Scott and try to find a veteran, versatile infielder who can cover 3rd base for insurance. I’m generally happy with the make up the team if the Cubs can pull that off. Even if Scott bombs, which is always possible with relief pitchers as it’s so volatile by nature. At least Jed made an effort to get the best available instead of the best bargain.
Lionoflambs
Seems like with all the injury concerns surround his workload he be better off in someone’s bullpen than starting games?
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Jesus saves but mot in Chicago
In nurse follars
Id love to read an article about how teams insure player contracts against medical risk. Anyone have a link?
CardsFan57
It’s so expensive for pitchers that most teams don’t bother.
Bobby Mongan
I would think that the Orioles would pass on Luzardo also for his lack of durability. Too many IR visits. They have had plenty of that problem last year with the pitching staff.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Luzardo feels like this current generation’s Ubaldo Jimenez or something along those lines- high upside, fits and spurts of brilliance, but too much uncertainty and potential for cratering to really justify taking the risk on or giving up too much to take that risk on.
King Floch
Not surprising, Luzardo’s trade value is down after his rough 2024 and the Marlins likely want to be compensated as though it isn’t.
jbigz12
I think if there was a time when you could get an overpay in prospects for a pitcher— it’d be right now.
Eovaldi is $25MM/per for 3 years. This guy has that upside for a fraction of that for 2 years, while also being in his prime. If you think last season’s struggles were because he was injured and it’s not something that’s going to seriously plague him—maybe you roll the dice on that.
Idk. Marlins should hold him if the offers aren’t good though. A good first half and the offers will be there in July.
Wire to wire 2024
If his value is so low which it probably is they should just keep him and see how he starts the season.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Agreed- if his value is really this low and it’s all about if he can stay healthy and consistent, he can attempt to prove that anywhere and he’s already somewhere, so just do it where he is now and if he’s changed perceptions of himself for the better heading into the All-Star Break, the Marlins will get a nice haul for him and some salary relief anyway- they’ll just have to spend an extra $3-4M on him through the first half, which they should be able to afford… they are a major league baseball team after all, right?
solaris602
Cubs are better off. Luzardo is fool’s gold. They should move on and target a more durable, consistent option for the rotation.
Acoss1331
More bullpen help should be another focus.
Rsox
Luzardo back to Oakland for one of Langeliers/McCann/Soderstrom, Schuemann and a minor leaguer?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Luzardo would be lonely in Oakland and Sacramento is probably uninterested.
Go, Sacramento A’s.
Rsox
It’s going to take some time to stop calling them “Oakland” and only referring to them as “Athletics”. It’s like referring to yourself in the third person…
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Yeah they’re “The Oakland Athletics of Las Vegas Who Play in Sacramento” ….
Not much worse than “The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” or whatever haha.
fjmendez
No way Langeliers would go. It’s their only reliable catcher with power. Maybe soderstrom and a prospect should be sufficient based on Luzardo’s current value.
BITA
Perhaps the Cubs realized they don’t need another lefty starter.
murphy8
Roki to the Cubs confirmed now lol
leftcoaster
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Marlins made Edward Cabrera available for trade. Very good stuff at times, but far too wild in the zone and games get away from him quickly. There would definitely be teams interested.
CFS77
Lump of coal
Oldguy58
Why would anybody want this guy? He’s damaged goods and has to prove himself. Do not trade for him.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
There is clearly something about him that has (or, perhaps at this point *had) a ton of teams convinced that he’s a contending club environment or line up protection or the right coaching staff away from Ace Level.
cwsOverhaul
Reason is prospect hugging. All last offseason and even trade deadline, no elite prospects were dealt. Drew Thorpe was the highest regarded oddly twice in Soto and Cease deals. Luzardo wouldn’t be an exception.
Crochet return was first trade in couple years that involved top shelf caliber prospects…..and that’s due to extreme of his crazy low salary and great stuff vs crazy high cost of simply ok older FA starters.
SupremeZeus
The Luis Robert of pitchers. Just need to find one team that thinks they can keep him healthy/”fix him”.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Yup.
I find this phenomenon fascinating, as it is especially true and somewhat specific or unique to baseball- that there are these players whose numbers aren’t especially impressive or consistent or whatever, but something in the peripheral stats or something about their presence when playing has people convinced that they’re secretly amazing and it just takes a soothsayer or a Fixer of a team, a coaching staff, a new environment or whatever, to unlock their full superman level potential as a player- and it’s almost never really true.
They are almost always exactly what you’re already seeing and getting, minus a little bit of good or bad luck because of, say, altitude (Colorado) or line up protection or whatever.
The Natural
Tampa and Cleveland may beg to differ. They seem to be able to unlock potential on pitchers.
pohle
but how do you explain things like brent rooker? jd martinez, every dodger since justin turner and through tommy edman? scheme and coaching have to come into play in a similar way as in football for those things to be true. pitchers, it is in the peripheral numbers. any guy with pretty good periphery stats can put up a rick porcello, tyler anderson (2022), frankie montas kind of good stretch, and then get paid for it pretty much for forever. baseball works in a way where you either are fascinated by how superstitious it is, or you refuse to see how superstitous it is.
pohle
i dont think luzardo is worth a ton of prospects. but in the right situation, he might have another good yesr or two left in him somewhere.
Cmurphy
The Cubs probably didn’t want to give up Cassie for him.
Unclemike1526
If Hoyer trades Caissie for an injury waiting to happen he should be flogged and fired.
Drasco0366
I’m happy(ish) with the Tucker trade but the Cubs do not need to mortgage any more of their future this offseason unless it’s for a clear upgrade with several years of control.
The Cubs built a fantastic farm system and I’m a little worried Hoyer wants to trade it all away in hopes of keeping his job.
The Cubs have enough room under the tax where they can sign Yates and Buehler to one year deals and have some payroll flexibility for 26.
Led Hoyer
If the price is right, I get Luzardo. He’s not a pitcher you get stupid over. I hope the Cubs go after Scott. Lock down a real closer for multiple years. I can’t think of another team that’s had such a revolving door of mediocre. I get Yates was amazing last year but his previous 3-4 years were injuries or mediocre. He feels like Neris 2.0. Kyle Finnegan is the epitome of inconsistency. It would be Scott with Estevez as a back-up plan or both.
Manfred Rob's Earth Band
The Cubs should go after Burnes at this point. Anything less would be uncivilized.
Mike the Fat Oriole Bird
In Baltimore, I’m not wild on the idea of overpaying for the guy. He always seemed like a guy with such promise, but the track record just isn’t that impressive.
Brettlez
All these teams want SP additions in trade without paying for it. Either fess or go pay Corbin $200 M.
For Love of the Game
It’s probably all waiting on Sasaki. Everybody thinks they have a chance to land him, which in theory everyone does. Why sign a pitcher to an expensive contract or give up a bunch of prospects in a trade when you might land a better pitcher far cheaper?
pohle
never can have too much pitching. the trade market always moves slow, then something happens out of nowhere. teams are all staring each other down still, like fish at bait. sooner or later something will happen
tikiagedola
I would trade rushchman if I were them. Kinda overrated. Can get as leg and arm
surfdoc37
I guess it would then be a, uh, rumor that Luzardo’s medical scotched a deal?
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Meant to reply directly to you, surfdoc37:
Where’d you read/hear that?
It’s not surprising… he’s become injury prone, which means he might have nagging physical issues that will never simply go away.
A Buxton / de Grom type.
CarolinaCubsandKush
Never liked those rumors anyway. Felt like an overpay incoming even after Luzardo’s down years. Jed needs to sign an actual BP piece or two already.
busterhyman
How he hasn’t acquired the nickname “the Jesus Lizard” is beyond me.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Where’d you read/hear that?
It’s not surprising… he’s become injury prone, which means he might have nagging physical issues that will never simply go away.
A Buxton / de Grom type.
whyhayzee
We’ve seen plenty of past instances where one team backs out of a deal based on a player’s medicals while another club finds them acceptable. For instance, the Yankees reportedly nixed a trade for Jack Flaherty over the summer due to medical concerns. The Dodgers were comfortable enough making a deal and got 10 regular season starts out of Flaherty, plus another five in the postseason. Different teams have different thresholds, and everything that’s taken into consideration is done so relative to the valuation of the players going the other direction in the deal.
It’s still a roll of the dice with many pitchers.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Good. The fact that the Marlins wanted Owen Caissie or James Triantos is asking alot. Especially for a pitcher with elbow and lower back issues. Both are red flags
sandman12
In Luzardo;s last healthy season, 2023, his 4,9 WAR was better than that of Cubs ace Justin Steele in his best year.
1999 MLB All Star MVP
Luzardo would definitely upgrade the Cubs starting pitching but they have to many left hand staters now. It would make sense if they included Jordan Wicks in any trade for Luzardo.
just_thinkin
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rememberthecoop
Why do I have a feeling that “well, we tried” will be the refrain from Jed Hoyer’s offseason pursuits? I mean, after all, there are only so many pitchers with a lot of upside yet having a low price tag.
Stromboli
Notice how teams are more than ever just looking for Roger Beshens Football Slider guys.
The Dbacks spending their wad on Monty and Erod was foolish.
Dback’s totally inept until they learned the Roger Beshens Football Slider in 2024 but a little too late, cause they NEVER would have even went after those guys.
Abe Froman
Except that Wicks is more of a pen option and swing-starter/depth. They’d still have Steele, Imanaga and Taillon with him as lefties in the rotation. They are all different types of lefties, though. So it might work for a season. But if Luzardo stayed healthy, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cubs traded Taillon next off season, to clear money for a run at a long-term contract for Tucker.
Will Dbax
“A talented pitcher on the Maarlins roster, you say?” – Mike Hazen. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Diamondbacks stepped in on him (see Gallen and Puk)
Aaron Sapoznik
Chicago sports fans deserve team ownership commensurate with its market size and status as a world class city. Instead we get Tom Ricketts, Jerry Reinsdorf and Virginia McCaskey.
The good news for White Sox, Bulls and Bears fans is that their owners are nearing the end of their life spans with a decent chance their franchises will be sold to controlling investors outside of their families. This is especially likely in the case of the White Sox and perhaps also with the Bulls and Bears.
Meanwhile, Cubs fans will be stuck with an owner who continues to print cash but refuses to act like the big market owners found in NYC and LA.
Unclemike1526
While the whole ” Ricketts is cheap thing” is getting old, I will admit that at some point Ricketts is going to have to evolve and dip his foot into the 300-500 million dollar player pool or get extremely lucky with signing FA’s who have either something to prove or something to regain. And that’s a real fine tightrope to walk. Especially when your POBO is literally the worst GM at having any kind of realistic plan in place. Maybe Tucker is the guy who turns him around, But I’m not holding my breath. H either needs to play above the Luxury Tax or find a POBO who has a vision, And doesn’t get sidetracked by every shiny thing that comes up.
Aaron Sapoznik
Claiming Tom Ricketts is “cheap” is not the same as insisting he “refuses to act like the big market owners found in NYC and LA.” Clearly Ricketts hasn’t opened his wallet and shunned the luxury tax obstacle like his counterparts in NYC, LA and many other markets which are smaller than the Chicago one.
Ricketts has had numerous opportunities to act like his wealthy big city peers in order to put the Cubs firmly on top of the smaller market NL Central and compete with the big boys in the East and West. Now that his team’s recent retool is complete he ought to act like an owner who cherishes winning over profits. Cubs fans deserve better and Ricketts will have a chance to prove it with Kyle Tucker in the next year or so.
SportsFan0000
Cubs have the farm system and players to entice Padres to trade Dillon Cease to Chicago.
Cease is a top of the rotation starter that would make the Cubs
a more serious contender in the NL Central.
Padres are looking to cut payroll.
They may ask for a package of young players and prospects including a young starting pitcher….