As the Cardinals eye a reset focused on younger players in 2025, Mark Feinsand, John Denton, and Bryan Hoch of MLB.com report that the club has received interest from the Blue Jays and Diamondbacks regarding closer Ryan Helsley. A subsequent report from John Gambadoro of Arizona Sports 98.7 confirms the interest in Helsley on the part of the D-Backs, though Gambadoro adds that the Cardinals do not appear to be interested in dealing their closer.
That apparent disinclination to deal Helsley meshes with a report from earlier this month that characterized St. Louis as unlikely to part ways with Helsley this winter, with president of baseball operations John Mozeliak suggesting at the time that they plan on Helsley remaining with the team for 2025. Given the perennial desire for high-end relief talent at the trade deadline each summer, it stands to reason that if Helsley pitches anything like he did in 2024 (2.04 ERA, 49 saves, 29.7% strikeout rate) in the first half of 2025 the Cardinals would still be able to land quite the haul for his services in the event they aren’t in position to push for a return to the playoffs.
Given that reality, it’s perhaps not a shock that the Cardinals have seemingly set an incredibly high bar for even considering moving on from the two-time All-Star. The 30-year-old has been among the league’s most dominant relievers in recent years, with a 1.83 ERA and 82 saves to go with a 34.6% strikeout rate in 167 2/3 innings of work since the start of the 2022 campaign. That sort of dominant relief profile can net an impressive return even with just one year of team control remaining, as the Brewers demonstrated when they acquired Nestor Cortes and Caleb Durbin from the Yankees in exchange for star closer Devin Williams.
Considering a report earlier this week suggested that the Snakes had interest in Williams before he was ultimately traded to the Yankees, it’s perhaps no surprise that Arizona has made contact with the Cardinals regarding Helsley. Club brass has made plain their goal of adding high-leverage relief help this winter following the loss of Paul Sewald to free agency. The club’s current back-end trio of Justin Martinez, A.J. Puk, and Kevin Ginkel is a solid one, but it’s easy to see why the Diamondbacks would have interest in bumping a young arm like Martinez out of the closer role and bringing in someone more established.
The Blue Jays, meanwhile, appear to be in the market for upgrades to virtually every area of their roster after a disappointing 2024 season that saw them finish dead last in the AL East. As star first baseman Vladimir Guerrero Jr. enters his final year of team control before free agency, Toronto appears to be focused on adding a bat to the lineup who can help offer him protection and bulking up a starting rotation that lost Yusei Kikuchi to a midseason trade and stands to lose Chris Bassitt to free agency next winter. In addition to those two issues, however, it can’t be ignored that the Jays non-tendered longtime closer Jordan Romano last month and currently figure to rely on Chad Green and the recently re-signed Yimi Garcia in the late innings. Adding a more proven closer to that mix would surely help turn around a Blue Jays club that saw its relievers struggle to the second-worst ERA and the worst FIP in baseball last year.
Other options beyond Helsley exist for strengthening either club’s bullpen corps, of course. It’s unclear whether either club would spend what it takes to land a top-of-the-market closing option like Tanner Scott or Jeff Hoffman, but veteran closers like Kenley Jansen, Kirby Yates, and David Robertson are all available in free agency this winter and could be had on a shorter commitment. Sewald, José Leclerc, and Chris Martin are among the other relievers available who could impact a club’s late-inning mix and could be more affordable than other options available.
bhd360
If I get one more notification that the Blue Jays are interested in a player while they sign NOBODY I’m going to go on a poutine strike. I don’t want it to get that serious but this is where we are.
Damn Yankee$
The taxes…
bestone
What taxes? Please explain.
Ashleyr
99.9 percent of fans don’t have a clue and just repeat the lies they were told through opinion, NOT reality. In fact, For those athletes, the Canada-US Treaty “MSMCA’ treaty signed applies a 183-day test window for the players.: The non-resident athlete pays Canadian tax on their employment income only if their presence in Canada exceeds 183 days in that year. That is six months, but the US athletes in New York, Chicago, LA pay tax based on which state they play their games in during the season. When fans scream oh Canadian taxes are why players don’t sign, then WHY do players sign with US teams and pay 100 percent more taxes than in Canada. Of course, the casual ignorant fans aren’t aware of that fact. lol
Damn Yankee$
33% to Canada 13% to Ontario.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Thank GOD we’ve got Ashleyr to explain the important things to us. Ashleyr for President. Simple solutions to complex problems. Vote Ash!
bestone
That’s not an explanation. Please read Ashleyr’s response.
I can almost guarantee that in April, players aren’t sitting at their kitchen table filling out tax forms.
There are tax accountants that get paid to look after this.
Spouting out a % is a response from someone who doesn’t know.
Edp007
Just FYI nationalpost.com/news/politics/former-blue-jays-wi…
Damn Yankee$
I gave you the exact tax rates, numb nuts.
17dizzy
The Cardinals need to keep Helsley. Possibly convert him to a starter…. Should he not pan out as a starter …. Then trade him as a reliever/Closer.
enteluj88
Equal to or less than a lot of jurisdictions in the US (including California, where a lot of athletes are clamouring to play).
Americans think Canadians pay a lot more in tax because we get free healthcare. Well… who do Americans think pay for all the nukes?
smuzqwpdmx
The Canadian government spends less on healthcare than the US government. In the USA, the government covers the old, disabled and poor while private companies soak up money for the young and healthy and leech as much as they can from the government for the rest as useless middlemen. Thus Americans pay more tax dollars for a system that makes them also pay out of pocket and covers way fewer people and it all sums up to dramatically shorter life expectancy and medical bankruptcies and depressed wages from being unable to switch jobs safely.
Sure, the nukes cost money too — but we’re also burning tax money on the terrible health care.
Theodore
Can anybody tell me when the two twits Atkins and Shapiro are going to start making some moves, are they on vacation or what. They have so many holes to fill on this team it’s not funny . The talent they have put together on this team is garbage , other than Vlad , Bo , Springer , and Varsho are all minor leagers with no talent , if they go into the season with this group of players you can guarantee that Vlad and Bo are not sticking around with this franchise . Fans are u rready for 50 win seasons if that happens , because players are not coming here to play with a team with no talent . Why are u people still going to games to support this organization , when they offer you no hope of winning . And Rogers why are you sitting back and watch those too twits make your organization one of the worst ones in the league these guys have destroyed this organization from the mlb level all the way down to the lowest level of the minor leagues . 10 years of that crap .
17dizzy
The Cardinals will trade Helsley in a package deal with Arenado to the Yankees.
stretcharmstrong1
The Blue Jays are interested in so and so? You don’t say. Seems they are interested in everybody until it gets down to what they would be paying so and so.
Samuel
stretcharmstrong1;
Oh, they’ll pay – and I guarantee you that they’ll sign at least 2 name FA’s this offseason.
The issue is that FA players want to see which other teams are interested, what their current status is as far as being a contending team, the manager, coaching staff, culture, etc. Standard stuff.
I don’t think the Jays come off are a prime destination point.
They’ll probably have to overpay in years as well as offer the
players opt-outs as well.
stretcharmstrong1
Oh so like most every other free agent ever?
Theodore
It’s not that Toronto is a bad destination place , but people do not want to play for Atkins and Shapiro , word has gone around by former players thst these two guys are nothing but bumbling idiots , they have destroyed this franchise from top to bottom for the last 10 years .
smuzqwpdmx
One of the few things Shapiro and Atkins have done right is gain a reputation for being good to their players and also assembling a clubhouse of good guys.
It’s just that you don’t get a discount for being a last place team with a bad farm system and high payroll in the toughest division with no apparent path to long term success. Especially if you’re not the hometown for many players, since Toronto isn’t as big a talent pipeline as warmer places.
BigGargamel
Blue Jays definitely win the “interested in” off-season World Series. Congrats to them!
Theodore
Every team in Major league baseball has been signing players to free agent contracts except for one team. THE TORONTO BLUE JAYS , because they are run by the worst Management team in Baseball ,Shapiro and his good buddy puppet Atkins and the Worst Owners in Major League Baseball , Rogers for letting these two guys destroy this organization for 10 years on the major league level and the hole minor league system from top to bottom. Even if they trade Vlad and Bo this team will be terrible for years to come because the crap these guys have compiled in the the minors , and the players these guys will accept in return .
MoneyBallJustWorks
This is a new approach.
instead of saying they are interested in a FA and lose out, now it’s they are interested in a player not likely to be traded.
how many more ways can this Jays teams media plants put out stories expressing interest in a player when the club clearly has no inclination of getting said player (or any upgrade). At least the Sox got Crochet and the O’s are not rumoured to be on anyone.
jaysfansince1977
MoneyBall, I did not see any Jays media referenced in this article..
Edp007
Not too many impact bat guys left. Teo Santander. Bregman Alonso and maybe Profar in that category , not imo though
mad1
Blue jays are interested in everyone and players are only interested in the blue jays as leverage
Theodore
They maybe interested in everyone but Atkins and Shapiro are not well liked by players because the way they have treated players when they ship them out .
MoneyBallJustWorks
I’m convinced the Jays are at least interested in discussing trading for any decent player who has one year in left who they can Give a QO to and get a draft pick out of.
bestone
It seems that last years signings were done with the concept of signing the easiest players to “flip” at the trade deadline, with an idea of gaining multiple younger controllable players. Rather than for building a team. Which is why there were too many infielders last year. If this is their “process”…forget about competing for years. May also explain why players don’t want to sign…because they would be moving on half way through the year.
Theodore
Draft picks are a dime a dozen , there is no guarantee that draft picks work out , and the problem with this management is they over value their draft picks that will never be major leaguers . Look at Anthopoulos how many minor leagers he traded away and none of them ever became stars.
asdfgh
Hoping this is posturing as they know with Williams traded Halsey should get us a haul now I hope Mo pulls the trigger on the right prospect haul. We aren’t resigning him obviously.
BronxBombers23
Cardinals get Peraza, Yankees Ketel and dbacks Helsley. Dbacks get a lights out closer, Cards a former top prospect and the Yankees a great 2B.
asdfgh
Dude best closer around gets way more than a former top prospect he gets for sure a top prospect. Trying to assemble a cards team on the cheap.
Damn Yankee$
Cashman might be trying to snag him with Arenado.
asdfgh
Personally would rather have these separate as Helsley would get top prospects packaging them counteracts that with Nolan’s salary being covered with little or no prospect capital. Arenado is a buy low and helsley is sell high and Mo and Bloom should ensure they get rid of as much salary without a return for arenado and helsley should get us 2-4 prospects one of which needs to be a top prospect.
zack novotny
All dbacks get is Helmsley in this scenario? Fuuu no. lol
MoneyBallJustWorks
someone’s been lighting up tonight. top 3 closer last year and maybe the top 2B for a guy who can’t crack the lineup in NY with no 2B or 3B?
BronxBombers23
How about Schmidt, Lombard Jr and Everson Pereira for Ketel?
BITA
Peraza for Helsley??? Lol no thanks
BronxBombers23
Lmfao
asdfgh
You totally bombed on this trade scenario….trying to pass off damaged goods for a top closer.
scottaz
Bronx
Wow! Just wow!
From a Dbacks fan.
0523me
Can we get an article headline that says Blue Jays interested in every free agent please? It would save us all a lot of reading
BITA
As the article suggests I don’t think he gets dealt until mid season.
DBAcks want Helsley i would do 1 for 1 him for Jones.
asdfgh
Cardinals won’t take that 1 for 1 deal, as if you read the article they want something similar if not more than the Williams trade got the brewers
BITA
Jones would be a big time addition to the prospect pool. Someone who can play center and hit from the right side is a fit. I would happily take that. It’s a different offer than what the Brewers got for Williams hard to compare them.
FrontOfficeStan
It would require multiple prospects, including one that would be nearly major league ready.
raregokus
Jones is a bust, hell no.
BITA
He had a good year Last year.
Old York
Blue Jays are terrible. Tear it down and rebuild properly.
Theodore
And what are you going to rebuild with when Vlad and Bo leave , when you get draft picks or minor leaguers back in return 1 out of 100 maybe major league talent . And when u retool like that are you as a fan good with winning less than 50 games a year with what you overpay at this stadium for everything , tickets , ball park venues , merchandise etc.
Rogers wake up Shapiro and his buddy have destroyed this franchise .
Lindor's Bodyguard
The Blue Jays are interested in a reliever to close games for the next 74 win season!
Shatkins are dumber than I thought.
Theodore
I think that sports reporters in Toronto and else we’re are so bored in having no news coming out of Atkins and Shapiro camp they just report Jays interested I everyone . Those two twits will not get a single free agent signing of any value .
Theodore
They are dumber than you know this franchise has been destroyed in last 10 years.
dano62
How this report forgot about Pressly is funny. Guy is still considered a closer and according to this website on the block, thus I’m voting for the King to get the TO treatment!
Dustyslambchops23
Shaping up to be the third depressing offseason in a row.
juggernaut
Kyle Finnegan had 38 saves last year is available as well. He puts runners on base at times (like other closers do) but gets the job done. He would be a solid and inexpensive solution (as far as closers go) for some teams.
Golfsucks
Yawn!
Wake me up when the Jays get there.
Craviduce
YES….get it done, preferably to the DBacks…..better prospects, sorry Jays fans 🙁 The only prospect you have at the moment is Yesavage, and he has lung issues.
Give me Waldschmidt or Caldwell, and we’ll call it a day, Dback fans!!!
🙂
scottaz
Craviduce,
At best, Helsley is probably the Dbacks’ 5th choice. Here is the order of priority I see for the Dbacks:
1. Miller, trade with A’s
2. Finnegan, trade with the Nats
3. FA. Kirby Yates
4. FA Kenley Jansen
5. Helsley trade
RandalGrichuksStubble
Jays are garbage. The team, yes, but the organization moreso. Plus, you have to spend a lot of time in Toronto which doesn’t help.
Termin
I think it’s time to rename the jays to the Toronto “have expressed an interest””
17dizzy
It’s extremely Sad to watch that the Owners of Historic St. Louis Cardinals Baseball team having to sell off all of their current Quality players because they can not afford a Professional Baseball Team anymore!!!
The DeWitts —- instead of completely flushing the Cardinals Franchise down the Toilet —- should sell the Team to an individual or group who what’s to keep the Historic Cardinals in
St. Louis and who can afford to pay the Quality Players Salaries!!
Keep the Cardinals as perennial National League Champions contenders as they once were.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
“Meanwhile” has to START the sentence. It’s not supposed to come in the middle, separated by commas.
tank1976
I hope they keep him but with the direction they are going I have a feeling they will trade him during the 2025 season. We had a couple of decades of good teams so the next couple of years could be interesting to see how hay ownership with do with the direction of the team.