Left-hander Blake Snell and the Dodgers reportedly agreed to a deal a week ago and the club officially announced it on the weekend, but the finer details of the pact are still trickling out. Per Jon Heyman of The New York Post (X link), the $182MM guarantee breaks down as a $52MM signing bonus followed by $26MM salaries in each of the five years of the deal, though with $13.2MM deferred annually without interest. There’s a $5MM assignment bonus if Snell is traded. Additionally, there’s a $10MM club option for 2030 under certain conditions: if Snell hasn’t been assigned to another club and has 90 or more days in a row on the injured list due to specific injury.
Many of these details came out in the initial reporting, including the guarantee, the signing bonus, the assignment bonus and that there were significant deferrals. However, the deferrals are slightly higher than initially thought. The numbers reported last week were $13MM in annual deferrals for a total of $65MM, but we now know that it’s slightly higher than that, with the $13.2MM annual figure actually getting the total number of deferrals to $66MM. Per Bob Nightengale of USA Today (X link), the MLBPA calculates the net present value of the deal at $150.336MM.
But the conditional option is the most significant new development today, as there was no prior reporting about Snell’s contract extending into the 2030 season in any way. Now it’s known that the Dodgers could potentially hold onto Snell for a sixth year, though only under certain circumstances.
Given the conditions, it seems it gives the Dodgers a bit of an insurance policy in the event Snell ends up with a significant injury over the course of the deal. Presumably, the specific injury would involve something related to his pitching elbow, whether that’s Tommy John surgery or some internal brace alternative. Such surgeries have become increasingly common in baseball in recent decades but still require pitchers to spend upwards of a year recovering.
Assuming that is the specific injury covered in the contract, the Dodgers would have the choice of keeping Snell around for an extra year, compensating them in a way for the lost year. Snell will be 37 years old by the time 2030 rolls around, so it’s anyone’s guess what kind of form he will be in at that point, especially if there’s a notable injury along the way. But $10MM is already not a lot of money for a starting pitcher.
Last winter, veteran back-end guys like Kyle Gibson and Lance Lynn got $13MM and $11MM guarantees on one-year deals, respectively. Wade Miley and Alex Wood were not far behind at $8.5MM. Inflation generally pushes salaries up over time, so those kinds of deals might creep up a bit between now and 2030.
It’s also possible Snell’s future talent level is above where those guys are now, given that he’s a two-time Cy Young winner and has had a more impressive peak than anyone in that group. Not all pitchers can maintain that kind of performance into their late 30s, but those who do are handsomely rewarded. Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander and Zack Wheeler were each recently able to secure salaries of $42MM or higher for deals that covered their late 30s or early 40s, so Snell at $10MM could be a massive bargain if he continues to pitch well over the course of the deal.
The fact that the option is also conditional on Snell not being assigned to another club is also interesting, as it could reduce the chances of Snell being traded while hurt. Robbie Ray underwent Tommy John surgery while with the Mariners and found himself traded to the Giants before he recovered from that procedure. If Snell ends up missing some time and unlocking that option for the Dodgers, they might be more inclined to keep him and take advantage of that option. All of this is moot for now, but it could become relevant down the line, depending on how things play out in the next five years.
ATinz
Here come the crybaby posts about deferrals. WAAAAAAAAAAA>
theonlydynasty
Deferrals are fine. Not a fan of how they are used as far as cbt tax though
TrueOutcomeFan
Have to imagine that’s going to be part of the next CBA negotiations. I’ve generally not been a fan of the salary cap for MLB, but they sure seem to be speeding off that cliff.
Joemo
True – my issue with the deferrals (like others mentioned here) is their impact in the CBT. If the CBA is changed and they affect the CBT for their actual value (not present value of money bs. You are paying 70MM for a year or service, that’s your tax hit), I think teams will give out less deferrals so the PA might not go for it. So I think we’re just stuck as is
Dodger Dog
Deferrals are good for players, good for owners. Probably not a whole lot of discussion gonna happen here.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Except that they’re not paying for $70mm of service per year. Do people really think that the market for Ohtani was 10 years, $700mm? If so, I suggest a course in basic finance.
theonlydynasty
At the end of the contract, whenever the last check to ohtani is written, he will have received 700 mil. He would have played 10 years on the roster. Is this all not correct??
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@Joemo
What’s the “bs” of which you speak…?
If you want to whine, do it in the general direction of your favorite team’s front office, for whom all these COLLECTIVELY BARGAINED structures are available….
semut
But the deferral system was something that was specifically voted on in this current CBA, with every club signing off on it as well as the players union reps. I doubt it’s going anywhere. You have a much better chance of seeing more teams use it than seeing it go away.
mlbdodgerfan2015
The concept of time value of money seems to be underappreciated here. Receiving $2mm/yr for the first 10 years and then $68mm/yr for the next 10 years is economically very different from receiving $70mm over 10 years. Without deferrals over 10 years the equivalent would be a lot less than $700mm. Thus why the CBT AAV is $46mm/yr. Said in other way, if another team wanted to pay Shohei without deferrals and assuming what the Dodgers paid was market the equivalent would be $460mm over 10 years. We can debate on what discount rate should be applied but the basic concept is that a dollar today is worth a lot more than a dollar in the future, especially in years 11-20. Again, a lot of people can benefit from a basic finance course.
theonlydynasty
Oh now I understand. So he’s gonna play for them for 10 yrs, and receive 700 mil for those 10 yrs.
mlbdodgerfan2015
“Financial literacy
In 2024, half of US adults lacked financial literacy. This has been the case for eight consecutive years, with a 2% drop in the past two years.”
Exhibit A.
theonlydynasty
Simple yes or no. Will ohtani receive 700 mil for his contract?
mlbdodgerfan2015
Nominal dollars? Yes, Real dollars? Hell no. I know you’re just trolling because no one can be this stupid. But carry on.
theonlydynasty
No actually, I understand everything you said. What you’re not getting is that nobody wants that in baseball. My gripe is that the rule is written in a way that we have to have this conversation at all. And you don’t seem so stupid that you can’t see why people have an issue with this
mrjjbond
I agree with what you said, but at the same time why not increase the CBT impacts of the signing bonus? $10.4M paid out 5 years ago is worth more than $10.4M today for the same reason that $13M received 10 years from now is worth less than $13M today.
Joemo
Comments –
Ok so in general, deferrals are great. You can gain a little bit more money over the years and the owners save a little on the CBT. What no one thought of was Ohtani deferring literally all of his deal. So instead of having a luxury tax hit of 70MM, he has one of 46MM (or whatever). That savings is almost the Snell deal. So imagine if the Dodgers had to pay an extra 24MM (or whatever) plus the penalities for being over the tax. Would they be able to keep affording the free agents? Would they be able to afford as many? They would hit their spending limit much faster if they paid Ohtani’s full contract value towards the luxury tax
Joemo
Mlbdodgerfan – at the end of the day, Ohtani is getting paid 700MM for 10 years of service. So his luxury tax hit should be 70MM per year. Quick and simple math. The Dodgers owners can still do the deferrals, they can still reap the rewards of investing that 48MM or whatever and have the money grow. But his luxury tax hit should be 70MM.
The market for ohtani was 10 years 700MM yes. Because that’s the contract he received in free agency, when any team could offer him a deal. You don’t need to try to complicate things
MarkieFresh
Nope. Ohtani is paid whether he remains on the roster or not. Only does not get paid fully in a dire situation like a suspension or banishment.
Kinda related: I work in healthcare and have a service time bonus next spring as part of my sign on contract. If I am medically unfit to work, laid off or dead before reaching that date, I still get the bonus paid out.
mlbdodgerfan2015
You’re missing the point as the Dodgers would never have paid Ohtani $700mm over 10 years. If there were no deferrals they’d be around that 10 years $460mm. The headline $700mm sure has screwed up people’s thinking.
mlbdodgerfan2015
You’re flat out wrong on market for Ohtani being 10 years and $700mm. Not even the Dodgers would pay that.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Joemo. You thought market for Ohtani was 10 years $700mm? I know you’re just being argumentative but making up stuff never helps your argument. Here is the link from MLBTR prior to Ohtani’s deal. Not even close.
mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/2023-24-top-50-free-age…
theonlydynasty
But they ARE giving him 700. No matter how many ways you spin it. 700 mil will change hands
920falcon
Wait until Soto signs a heavily deferred deal with the Dodgers.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Don’t worry the Dodgers will not be getting Soto. Not even sure if they made a genuine offer. They’re often “in” on top FA players that they don’t end up signing.
fox471 Dave
No Soto for the Bums!
drewskis86
if anything you baiting people is the big toddler move
ATinz
Hook, line and sinker.
Lets Go DBacks
Wow, even the contract length is deferred!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
This deal is “B.S.”, but only because “B.S.” are the initials for Baked Snail. Otherwise, it is a solid contract, with a super high upside and also a low floor for an injury-prone guy who often can pitch five innings really well, but rarely for a complete season.
mlbdodgerfan2015
I don’t understand how one can say that they don’t approve impact of deferrals for CBT. Do you not believe in time value of money?
pepenas34
Some just don’t get it, or they get it but still p issed because their team is just not smart enough.
Some teams chose the rout of lengthening the contracts to 12+ years when they only wanted to do 8, just to spread the amount and trick the CBT number also.
metsin4
I guess you felt impelled to complain first.
Albert Belle's corked bat
It’s Bidenomics! Sorry the Republicans on here aren’t smart enough to understand deferrals.
fox471 Dave
Smile. Sad little progressive puppy.
Kewldude69
Zomg! Why does my owner suck!? I h8 LA! Fake fans! The show up in the third after Botox!
semut
lol I forgot that ‘zomg’ ever existed. Thanks for ruining that for me
yanks2009
That’s what it takes to buy a Championship!!
rememberthecoop
Steve Cohen on line 2.
Pads Fans
The difference is Cohen came into a situation with a team that had not been to the playoffs in 5 seasons and a farm system that was ranked 20th and relatively barren outside of 3 at the top. He said up front that he would spend the money to bring in top shelf players and push the team into the playoffs while they built up the farm. They used those top shelf players to get into the playoffs in his 2nd season, built up the farm through trading some of them, and after a trip to the NLCS now their CBT payroll is 11th at $186.5 million. They can spend $55 million and still be under the CBT.
Stearns is known for his trades, not his FA signings, so even though he can shop at the top of the FA market, chances are some of the additions will be through trades for top shelf players.
The Dodgers have spent over $500 million more than the next highest spending team in the 11 years since Guggenheim bought the team. It will surpass $600 million more than that team in 2025.
They have spent $1.2 Billion more than the next highest spending team in the NL West. That will go up to $1.3 billion in 2025 unless the Giants land Burnes, Soto, and Adames.
rct
@Pads Fans: as a Mets fan, I have to say this is a great breakdown of what Cohen has been trying to do since buying the team. Nice stuff!
VinScullysSon
I would bet that despite the increasing percentage spent over the rest of teams that the Dodger’s profit percentage is even higher so there’s a likelihood that if they were just trying to maintain equilibrium then they should be spending even more.
amk1920
Cool story. The Dodgers actually won. Congrats to Cohen on his spending to improve the franchise in a worse spot than the Dodgers award
Pete'sView
Pads Fans — Or at least Adames and Burnes. Giants won’t get burned again drooling for a player [Soto] who’s only going to use them as a stalking horse, driving up the cost for one of the two New York teams—probably the Yankees.
Pads Fans
rct, thanks. I try to pay attention.
Pads Fans
If they don’t get all 3 and pay $46-50 million AAV for Soto the Dodgers amount spent more than the Giants will still be $1.3 billion since Guggenheim bought the team.
Pads Fans
We have no way of telling what the Dodger’s profit percentage is. We only know for sure for the Braves and Blue Jays.
I would say that the teams with the largest percentage of profit are the ones spending the least while still getting revenue sharing, but I could be wrong on that.
Pads Fans
For their $1.2 billion more than the rest of the NL the Dodgers have one full season WS win.
The Giants have 2 full season WS wins in that time frame and they spent $1.2 billion less to get it.
The Royals have the same number of full season WS appearances and wins and spent $1.7 Billion less.
l9ydodger
@pads fans; So what do you think the Dodgers should do. Just sit on all that money? Don’t spend it on players? Give it away to their BILLIONAIRE counterparts? They’re basically doing that already!
Everyone in baseball would be screaming collusion or how tight they are.
They choose to reinvest in the team for their fans! Please tell me, how is this bad?
Why is this wrong?
Why are the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets the evil ones?
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@Pads
If you’re going to troll, at least be creative about it.
The Dodgers won the 2020 World Series. I’m sorry your favorite team didn’t, but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t count.
I’m also sorry that your favorite team absolutely gagged when it mattered most, despite the hundreds (and hundreds) of millions of dollars being paid to the folks in your favorite team’s starting lineup. A plucky group of unpaid interns, the Padres are…not.
And as your favorite choke artists found out (again) in October, the route to a WS title is weird and unforgiving and hard. And yet, the Dodgers have won two in the last five years; played in four of the last eight WS; five of the last nine LCS; and have averaged 101 wins in the last eight (full-length) seasons.
I’d argue Guggenheim’s dollars have been extraordinarily well-spent, and will be well into the next decade, while your favorite ballclub’s spending lunacy cripples the organization for god knows how long…..
bruinlife33
What has history said about teams that spend and spend, go over the luxury tax, and get their chips? They eventually stop “investing” and curb spending. Not team has an infinite money printer, because of that were the case, the super team Yanks from 90s would have kept on going. Enjoy your championship, but it won’t last.
fox471 Dave
And the Padres spent a ton of money, have nothing to show for it and are fonancially barely treading water.
fox471 Dave
Financially!!!!!
fox471 Dave
Well said! Could not have said it better myself, which is why I deferred to you, my erudite friend.
Pads Fans
Igy, you said that. I didn’t say a single one of those things.
Why so defensive?
Also, most Dodgers fans gave Seidler a hard time for spending for 3 years. Why the double standard?
Pads Fans
Comments, If you are going to be a moron, at least keep it short.
Pads Fans
Fox, WRONG, like your namesake. Padres have 3 straight seasons with record attendance with 2 of those leading MLB in percentage of park capacity, so much additional revenue that they went from being in the bottom 5 in revenue to being a revenue sharing PAYOR (top 14 in revenue) in 5 years, and have made 3 playoff appearances in 5 years including 2022 when they knocked the Dodgers out.
The Padres dipped under the CBT in 2024, just like the Dodgers did in 2019, and the Padres are already over it for 2025 before the offseason additions have gotten started for most teams.
jbigz12
The Padres are not over the CBT yet. $205MM projected payroll. Wouldn’t surprise me if they do everything they can to stay under.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Comments Section Commenter
I agreed with everything you said except the last point. The Padres high level of spending has also upped the game for their franchise as well. If they can sustain it then the Dodgers and Padres will be come a fun rivalry for fans for the next decade. Dodgers clearly are superior, but the margin between them is small, not huge.
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@MLB Top 100
The last point is expressly about this moment in time, when the margin between the two clubs is indeed small. (Hell, it wouldn’t have surprised me to see the Padres win it all this past October.)
But that margin will only grow, as SD’s spending decisions–which can’t be faulted, considering that it’s great when other teams spend and that Seidler was pretty clearly shooting his last best shot–grow more onerous by the year.
pepenas34
You keep saying Dodgers have spent billions and you are forgetting that out of that 1.2 you mention 1 B is differed, so they haven’t spent that money.
Pads Fans
jbig, Padres are at $242.1 million. CBT threshold is $241 million. They are already over the CBT threshold and they still have LF, C, SP, and bench to fill.
legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/
Fangraphs Roster Resource has them even higher at $244 million.
fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/padres
Pads Fans
Pepe, nope. That is CBT so the deferred money is already factored in. That is in today’s dollars. If it wasn’t, then the the $1.2 billion difference between what the Dodgers have spent since Guggenheim bought the team and what the next highest spending team in the NL West, which also happens to be the 2nd highest spending team in the NL,would be over $1 .1 billion higher.
Mondesi’s Cannon
I mean that’s fair. If the guy has a wasted season due to injury, it’s a nice insurance option to consider at $10MM for 2030. That’s the going rate for a SP 5 these days…
stymeedone
Its doubtful that the injury would occur at the exact moment necessary to only effect one season. It will likely effect two. What a bargain!
ckc12537
This isn’t the “Astros to Sign Juan Soto” post I’ve been manifesting today.
Wire to wire 2024
That would be wild
ckc12537
It won’t happen but wow would people hate the Astros lol
Wire to wire 2024
Take some heat off of the dodgers
maxmilna
Please cry here.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Can anyone explain how the team benefits from giving a player a large signing bonus and deferred money?
I’m assuming there’s a tax advantage?
CTYanksFan
The signing bonus doesn’t benefit the team, it benefits the player. Snell lives in Washington, so he won’t have to pay the higher California state income tax on that signing bonus money.
The deferred money is like buying Christmas presents on a credit card. They look great under the tree, but at some point, you have to pay those bills.
KnicksFanCavsFan
So then what’s the advantage to the team to defer the money?
metsin4
They cheat on their luxury tax bill. The players cheat on their taxes.
JackStrawb
@KnicksFanCavsFan It can invest the deferred money, with conditions, and it’s paying the player in cheaper money.
The dollar in 2030 for example may be worth 80 cents in 2024 money. Say you agree to pay me $1,000,000 to fix your house, but you only have to pay me in 2030. By then you’ll be paying me with what effectively amounts to $800,000, and you’ll also have been able to invest that money. Say you can get roughly 4% interest. You’ll have been able to turn that 800k into 1m (more or less).
So you’re paying with less money in current dollars, and you’ll have been able to do other things with that money in the interim.
ckc12537
Time value of money
empirejim
bitter mets fan….
l9ydodger
@metsin4; And your next post will be proof of this in black & white?
metsin4
I’m not bitter about it at all. I could care less. I’m just stating why the team and players agree to it. The players are avoiding California taxes when they get the money and Ohtanis case avoiding US federal taxes. The team benefit from lower tax hits.
metsin4
The players don’t have to pay California income tax after they aren’t playing their and live in a lower tax state or no tax state. It’s not rocket science.
stymeedone
Assumes the value of the dollar will go up.
fox471 Dave
Really? Sad little take.
fox471 Dave
Metsin4 what? Millennia?
Pads Fans
No matter when they get paid, they pay taxes where the income was earned. For MLB players that is where each individual game was played.
metsin4
That’s not true at all. California 100% taxes the whole income of players salary from players in their state. The jock tax is an added tax that goes on top. Do you pay your retirement income to the state you worked in? Absolutely not. It’s the state you currently reside in.
CTYanksFan
He lives in Washington, Signing bonus counts as Washington income. His base salary will be taxed by California. That’s the benefit of a signing bonus for Snell, he saves money on state tax.
Pads Fans
Mets, that is not even close to true. California STATE taxes are on WHERE you earn the money. I am a California resident and earn income all over the world. I pay STATE taxes in California on income earned in California.
There is no such thing as a “jock tax”.
Not old enough that I am forced to take disbursements from my IRA, but when I do I will pay them in California.
Deferred income for players is not an IRA. Its income earned where they played the games and taxes will be paid where they earned that income. It doesn’t matter how long its deferred.
If you think the state of New York and the State of Massachusetts and the state of (fill in the blank) is going to give up the taxes on income earned in their state you are out of your mind.
Pads Fans
THAT is true. He will save tax money by living in a state with a low or no state income tax and taking a large portion of his deal as a signing bonus.
He won’t skip paying taxes by deferring salaries.
Pete'sView
It’s paying the player in cheaper money.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
The team benefits by getting the big name player who puts butts in seats and eyes on the TV screens.
Fg-3
It’s a good signing for LA but too many risk factors, he could be a number 1 but realistically a number 3 starter. Good signing though
JackStrawb
Know a lot of “number 3 starters” with two Cy Young awards and a 128 ERA+ for his career, do you?
stymeedone
Not a lot of two time CY Young award winners that would have his remaining numbers if you removed those two years from his record. He’s had 2 1/2 years of excellence in a mediocre and injury prone career.
CommentsSectionCommenter
@Fg-3
A #3?
He was literally the most unhittable pitcher on the planet from July onward this past season, and already has multiple CYAs on the mantel.
But sure.
fox471 Dave
Name one number 3 starter with 2 CYs. I’ll wait.
Mikenmn
Snell will be 32 tomorrow. An option on his year 2030 season–where he will be 38+–may not be all that exciting. Of course, he usually doesn’t pitch that many innings, so
JackStrawb
Good codicil. Some guys just know how to rest.
Pads Fans
There is more coming. Hearing that 2030 season can also vest for Snell at just a wee bit more. Like $22 million more.
Candlestoked
Boo! Duck the ducking Fodgers!
Bivouac-Sal
No one hates the Giants. You need to be a factor first before you get the vitriol.
empirejim
Most Patriots fans hate the Giants. Oh, baseball? No, the Giants dont even register as a nuisance.
Longtimecoming
Not a Giants fan but a fan of truth. More WS wins than any other team in the past 15 years?
Not a “factor first”?
Bivouac-Sal
some of us live in the now
CommentsSectionCommenter
@longtimecoming
The bill has come due on those championships as evidence of anything other than the Giants once were much better than they’ve been for a decade now (and, considering their opponents in said WS, were also far luckier in Octobers long since past).
I mea, the Giants aren’t even thought to be the Dodgers’ biggest DIVISION rival anymore. They’re a rich team (albeit with a garbage-human owner) who can’t give away their money to a position player no matter how hard they try and no matter how much they’ll overpay.
They’re not a factor, and to argue differently is silly.
semut
LOL there isn’t one single person on the Giants who was around for those wins. Yeah, the current Giants isn’t even close to being a factor
Longtimecoming
Yet read the post that I responded for context.
Have to be a “factor first”, talking about the past for reference of not getting vitriol from fans.
That was not a “right now” or even “last year” context.
It isn’t hard to say that Giants have not been relevant for a few years but to act like they haven’t been relevant in recent (like the past 15 years which if you are over 40 isn’t very long but if you are in 20’s I get it, that seems like forever ago) memory is wrong.
Longtimecoming
“LOL there isn’t one single person on the Giants who was around for those wins.”
If that is your criteria, that fits every team except the last 4 or 5 maybe?
bruinlife33
You expect the same players to be on the same team years later? Dope
fox471 Dave
Longtime: yeah, you are going to have to live on that for a long, long, long, time.
Old York
The reliance on $66 million in deferred payments and a narrowly defined conditional club option in Blake Snell’s contract may limit the Dodgers’ future financial flexibility and roster adaptability. These provisions create potential inefficiencies, as they tie up resources in a deal that offers little recourse if Snell’s performance declines or injuries occur outside the specified conditions.
JackStrawb
They really, really don’t, comrade. The option can only be of positive value to the Dodgers, given they can simply ignore / reject it if they like. Further, escrowing money that you retain some investment options for, that you’d otherwise be paying the player hardly limits future financial flexibility. In fact it creates that flexibility.
As for Snell getting hurt, that’s baked into the price and is also true of every player. The Dodgers aren’t paying him as they would a guy who goes 180 IP every year.
Old York
@JackStrawb
The conditional option sounds good in theory, but it’s so narrowly defined that it’s unlikely to offer much real benefit. By 2030, $10 million for a pitcher will barely move the needle, even if Snell hits the specific criteria.
As for the deferrals, they don’t really create flexibility. That $66 million is still a future obligation that limits how the Dodgers can allocate their budget over the next five years. Escrowing money might make sense in some cases, but here, it adds unnecessary complexity and risk to a contract for a pitcher whose consistency and durability are already concerns. Injuries are always factored in, but that doesn’t make this deal any less of a gamble.
CommentsSectionCommenter
@OldYork
You realize who owns the Dodgers, right?
You understand what it is that Guggenheim does, yes?
You think the opportunity to invest future monies owed will hamstring Guggenheim…? Hahaha….OK…..
Old York
@CommentsSectionCommenter
Understanding the Dodgers’ ownership doesn’t change the fundamental point: financial flexibility is about optimizing resources, not just having deep pockets. Guggenheim’s wealth doesn’t mean the Dodgers are immune to inefficient contracts.
The $66 million in deferrals doesn’t magically “create” flexibility; it’s still money owed, limiting the team’s ability to pivot in future offseasons. Investing deferred payments may benefit Guggenheim, but it doesn’t necessarily help the team on the field.
And let’s not pretend the narrow conditional option is a game-changer. By 2030, $10 million for a 37-year-old pitcher likely recovering from injury isn’t a strategic asset — it’s a rounding error. Just because they can spend doesn’t mean they should spend unwisely.
CommentsSectionCommenter
@OldYork
“Just because they can spend doesn’t mean they should spend unwisely.”
I couldn’t agree more–and welcome to guiding principle of the Los Angeles Dodgers (Trevor Bauer notwithstanding)…..
The McNasty1
A severe overpay
amk1920
Take Snell all day on that contract over what Montas and Boyd just got
Datashark
Contract seems as if Snell might ease up on his pitches to avoid TJ as best he can this may impact his effectiveness on the mound.
ManfredIsAJoke
The condition is if he doesn’t perform at a Cy Young level the team will throw him out like yesterday’s garbage and buy the next big superstar, to which their clown “fans” will tell you to stop crying and that their favorite owner could do it too (presumably having to spend personal funds, which these morons should know owners don’t do). Oh well. No need to watch MLB anymore. I hear the KBO is good. Less capitalism over there.
CommentsSectionCommenter
@ManfriedIsAJoke
Zzzzzz……….
semut
Wow cry harder dude
Bivouac-Sal
We are all going to miss ManfredIsAJoke aren’t we?
fox471 Dave
Manfredi is another sad puppy. Let’s guess what his favorite team might be. A’s? Nah. Pirates? Uh uh. Got it. White Sox. Right?
DCDude2007
Could Snell still be legit for six more years? Health is a very large concern for the Dodgers here.
JackStrawb
Snell has a floor of 104 innings across his career (135 IP avg for the last 4 seasons and 26 GS / year), generally at a HOF level, where a 125 ERA+ is around the minimum for most HOFers starting pitchers. Snell’s at 128 for his career and 126 for 2021-2024.
The Dodgers will go into the season with as many as six #1 SP. If they can nurse 3 of them to the postseason, they’ll be thrilled. His health is very, very secondary to the peak performance they’re looking for.
This is all about winning another World Series—nothing else.
ManfredIsAJoke
You mean buying another World Series. Mission accomplished.
CommentsSectionCommenter
@Manfred
Which plucky group of unpaid interns to you root for, Manfred?
CommentsSectionCommenter
@JackStrawb
Precisely this.
The six-man rotation (that will be more like a 9/10-man rotation, if we’re counting semi-phantom IL stints, etc., and barring another rash of staff injuries) is designed to ask very little of anyone in June/July/August.
Because only October matters now.
Pads Fans
Jack, Absolutely. If your team can afford to pay 9 quality starting pitchers knowing that only 5 will be healthy at any one time, its a solid strategy to sign guys like Snell and Glasnow that you know will not be available for more than 2/3 or the season but are TOR starters when healthy. Just rotate them in and out and hope that they all don’t go down at once. Only two or possibly three teams have that amount of revenue.
Bivouac-Sal
all a team can do is sign the best players available. injuries are a danger for all players, all teams. as for the length of the contract, that’s more of a financial amortization factor than expecting to have no IL stints over six years.
Ashleyr
So, with Ohtani’s 68M, 13.5 for Snell, plus another 50 million for Freeman and Hernandez, factor in other deferrals that run from 2030 until 2045 and the Dodgers have already maxed out their payrolls for those fifteen years without paying a single player on their team during those years. If anything happens like a war, the economy crashes, tariffs bankrupt the people and corporations, and the Dodgers have snookered themselves for the here and now. That is why other teams are responsible for their budgets. No one knows what the future holds and they aren’t trying to sign all the best players. There are 30 teams in MLB, NOT just the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees. If they are determined to use the other teams as their farm systems, just create a premier league with the six teams that exploit the league and put the other 24 teams in a second=tier, third tier, where the top six can’t sign all the best players, leaving them as weak links..
Bivouac-Sal
@Ashley
so which is it?
“Dodgers have snookered themselves for the here and now. That is why other teams are responsible for their budgets.”
or
“the top six (teams) …sign all the best players, leaving the others as weak links.
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@Ashleyr
What?
terry g
Deferrals will probably not even be discuss in the next CBA. The current system benefits both the teams and the players. why would it even come up?
semut
Exactly. And it was specifically voted on in this current CBA with unanimous approval. People only like to whine when the dodgers do it
craigin805
The Dodgers defer salaries. Padres sign Bogarts to an 11 year contract. Both look like methods to spread costs and stretch salaries. to reduce cap penalty. What’s the difference?
desertdawg
So, when do we hear that the Dodgers are announcing the signings free agents Burnes, Fried, Adames, and Soto. Why not you know they want to just have to figure out the deferral arrangements.
boostreet
Anyone have ideas on what would happen in that Option season if the Dodgers wanted to exercise but Snell wanted to retire?
jbigz12
Snell walks away and then no money is owed or paid out.
fox471 Dave
He retires. He is not a slave.
Brick House Coffee Tables Inc
So he agreed to a $10M version of the John Lackey clause, Lackey agreed to a Red Sox option for a league minimum deal if he missed most of a season with a pitching injury.