TODAY: Jon Heyman of the New York Post (via Bluesky) has the breakdown of Severino’s contract. The $10MM signing bonus is broken up at $5MM next month and $5MM in January 2026. The righty will earn $15MM this season and $20MM in 2026, so his player option for the 2027 season is worth $22MM. Severino will also get a $500K assignment bonus in the event of a trade.
DECEMBER 6: The A’s are ready to spend some cash, announcing Friday that they’ve signed free agent righty Luis Severino to a three-year deal — the third year of which is a player option. Severino, a client of Klutch Sports, will reportedly be guaranteed $67MM, to be paid out in the form of a $10MM signing bonus and $57MM in salary over the three seasons. He can opt out of the contract after year two and become a free agent once again in the 2026-27 offseason.
It’ll register as a shock for many to see the nomadic A’s, who will play next year in West Sacramento’s Sutter Health Park (home to the Giants’ Triple-A affiliate), land a notable free agent with a hefty multi-year deal. They’re in the process of relocating to Las Vegas and have been aggressively pursuing free agents in an effort to boost a payroll that entered the offseason without a single contract on the books in 2025. Some free agents — Walker Buehler among them — have entirely dismissed the notion of playing in a minor league facility. Still, with a reported target payroll in the $100MM range, there’s long been a possibility for the A’s to be a surprise player in free agency. MLBTR’s Darragh McDonald explored just such a possibility at length last month.
The general thinking has been that the A’s will need to overpay in order to pursue top-end free agents this winter. The terms of Severino’s contract indeed suggest a clear willingness to spend well beyond market expectations in order to lure free agents to their new home. Severino’s deal includes both a larger guarantee than most anticipated and an opt-out opportunity. Because he rejected a qualifying offer from the Mets, Severino will cost the A’s their third-highest pick in next year’s draft. He’ll also net the Mets a compensatory pick, albeit only between the fourth and fifth rounds because of their status as a luxury tax payor.
The $100MM target payroll likely stems from the Athletics’ status as a revenue-sharing recipient. The franchise was stripped of its revenue-sharing benefits last decade after failing to sufficiently utilize those funds to improve the on-field product, as is a stipulated requirement. The 2022-26 collective bargaining agreement restored the A’s as a revenue-sharing recipient, and they’ve since spent modestly in free agency to keep payroll at least in step with the other lowest-spending clubs in the league. The deal with Severino signals a willingness to spend a bit beyond that point. It is, incredibly, the largest contract in franchise history, nominally surpassing the six-year, $66MM contract extension signed by third baseman Eric Chavez more than two decades ago.
[Related: The Largest Contract In Franchise History For Each MLB Team]
Severino, 31, will immediately jump to the top of the A’s rotation. He’s likely ticketed for their Opening Day start, barring another notable acquisition via free agency or trade. He’ll lead a staff that currently projects to also include JP Sears, Mitch Spence and Joey Estes. The A’s have a variety of in-house candidates for the fifth spot, though the Severino deal rather obviously opens the door for GM David Forst to sign/trade for another starter of note to further solidify the bunch.
Severino, of course, looked the part of a budding ace for the Yankees in 2017-18 when he posted 384 2/3 innings with a 3.18 ERA, 28.8% strikeout rate, 6.2% walk rate and 45.8% grounder rate in his age-23 and age-24 seasons. The flamethrowing righty averaged better than 97 mph on his heater, recorded a hefty 12.7% swinging-strike rate and generally had the makings of a star. The Yankees agreed, signing him to a four-year, $40MM extension with an option for a fifth season.
That deal bought out all of Severino’s arbitration years and his first free-agent season. At the time, some thought a pitcher with his upside and demonstrated excellence to date was perhaps selling himself short. In the long run, it worked out wonderfully, as injuries frequently kept Severino off the field and rendered him a shell of his former self when healthy enough to take the mound. From 2019-23, Severino managed only 209 1/3 innings in the majors, dealing with multiple lat strains and requiring Tommy John surgery along the way. His 2023 campaign included 89 1/3 frames with a 6.65 ERA.
The 2024 season marked a resurgence for Severino, who inked a one-year, $13MM deal with the Mets on the heels of that injury-plagued finish to his Yankees tenure. The right-hander’s 182 innings nearly matched his total over the five prior calendar years. He logged a 3.91 ERA with a below-average but passable 21.2% strikeout rate and a strong 7.6% walk rate. His 46% ground-ball rate, while not elite, was comfortably north of league average.
At the same time, Severino simply wasn’t the dominant force he was earlier in his career. His average fastball with the Mets was about 1.5 mph off from its peak levels. His 9.4% swinging-strike rate was decidedly below-average — a near mirror-image of his 9.1% mark in that disastrous 2023 season and nowhere close to his career-best 13.3% rate. Opponents made contact on just 81.9% of Severino’s pitches within the strike zone in 2017-18 — league-average was 84.7% — but did so at a whopping 88.2% clip in 2024 (when the league average was 85.2%).
When the Mets signed Severino to his one-year deal, it had the makings of an upside play on a former front-of-the-rotation arm. Last year’s rebound showed that he was healthy but also seemed to further support the notion that his prior ace-caliber form is in the rearview mirror. Severino now has the feel of a third or fourth starter, making his $22.333MM annual salary and an opt-out rather jarring.
Many pundits thought Severino could have — and should have — accepted the Mets’ $21.05MM qualifying offer; he and his agents deserve credit for not simply eclipsing that guarantee in notable fashion but surpassing that number on an annual basis over a lengthy deal that affords him another bite at free agency in the 2026-27 offseason. The contract tops recent guarantees for Chris Bassitt, who was seen as a steady and dependable No. 2-3 arm, and Yusei Kikuchi, whose torrid finish with the Astros made him one of the most sought-after pitchers on this offseason’s market. Both pitchers signed for $63MM over the same three-year term.
For the A’s, a commitment this weighty was likely deemed a necessity to land a mid-rotation arm whose velocity and ground-ball tendencies perhaps create some hope that he can still eke out some incremental improvements over his 2024 form. That said, there’s quite a bit of injury risk still associated with Severino, and fielding-independent metrics like FIP (4.21) and SIERA (4.22) were actually more bearish on his 2024 performance than his already solid-but-unspectacular earned run average. There’s little doubt he improves the club and shows that the A’s are serious about spending this winter, but it’s a steep price to pay when taken in totality.
Severino will nevertheless add some credibility to a rotation that was largely lacking it. And the A’s, with a burgeoning core of quality players — Brent Rooker, Mason Miller, JJ Bleday, Lawrence Butler, Shea Langeliers — could hope that a few subsequent additions and strides from young talents like Jacob Wilson, Tyler Soderstrom and Zack Gelof might help them exceed expectations sooner than most thought possible.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan first reported that the two sides agreed to a three-year, $67MM deal. Yahoo’s Russell Dorsey reported the signing bonus. Passan added details on the opt-out.
metsfan1992
Athletics did what???!!!
Brew’88
it’s April 1
Led Hoyer
The Las Vegas As have money!
Piro
Sacramento
ElasticSyntax
West Sacramento
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The AAA team that plays at Sutter Health Park (formerly Raley Field) is called the Sacramento Rivercats not the West Sacramento Rivercats
The 49ers are the San Francisco 49ers not the Santa Clara 49ers
The Rams are the Los Angeles Rams not the Inglewood Rams
Sacramento A’s baseball.
steven st croix
The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Anaheim angels always sounds much better
I still wish they had the 2002 jerseys that said Anaheim on the front
los_leebos
@MLBtop: The team itself proactively chose to drop city affiliation from its name. Your counterpoints are not wrong, but they are irrelevant because none of those teams decided to proactively drop their city affiliation from their team name. A’s did, so it opens them up to this deserved mockery.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Leebos
Let’s see what they do by midseason. They will lose revenue to third party vendors if they do not sell jerseys that says Sacramento A’s. I think they will either put Sacramento or Las Vegas by 2026.
los_leebos
I think they should have immediately leaned into the temporary aspect of “Sacramento A’s”. Then 10-20 years down the line, any fan with a Sacramento A’s jersey would have a cool little relic, and the team could also upsell them as classic/antique/whatever after they move to their “permanent” home. But instead they went the route that opens them up to this deserved mockery.
The team will be playing in the municipality of West Sacramento and has proactively decided not to identify its team name with any vicinity, therefore “West Sacramento A’s” is 100% accurate.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
West Sacramento is a tiny city adjacent to the larger city of Sacramento. We should both feel free to call them whatever we prefer. If they don’t sell a Sacramento A’s jersey at the stadium, such jerseys will be sold all over town.
SonnySteele
Don’t forget the East Rutherford Giants.
zacharydmanprin
It’s literally across the river in Yolo County – NOT adjacent.
Fever Pitch Guy
Piro – Doesn’t matter what name they use, I’m laughing hysterically at the people who tried to shout down myself and others by insisting “Severino should have taken the QO, he made a huge mistake, he will never get nearly as much as the $21M, he won’t have a market because of the compensation, blah blah blah” ……
Screw the “pundits”, I defended Sev’s decision and was certain he would do far better on the open market.
Kudos to the MLBTR staff for projecting $51M, they were even closer than I was!!
Can’t wait to see how much Pivetta gets now, he’s probably grinning from ear to ear.
MacGromit
@leebos
“Deserved Mockery” would be a great band name.
SFan
Or the foxborough patriots.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Look on any Google map. the border for ADJACENT Sacramento City/County and West Sacramento/Yolo County is the middle of the river. One side of the ballfield is literally on Riverfront Street. The minor league team that plays there is the Sacramento Rivercats.
Levi Stadium in Santa Clara is 45 miles from San Francisco with multiple cities in belween San Francisco and Santa Clara. Not the Santa Clara 49ers. Size matters.
baseball_jen
100% Agree!!
Giant Willy
YOLO A’s
LordD99
…but he’ll never pitch in Las Vegas!
Baseballisthebest
The Sacramento A’s have money
RunDMC
Falls under that category of seeing a new ‘Vette in the driveway of a fixer-upper home.
MacGromit
@RunDMC
I get your point but Luis Sevarino is hardly a new ‘Vette. — maybe a K car, a nice reliant automobile.
I’m not gonna lie, I don’t care for Fisher at all but I do like chaos. I mean, after the Dodgers fill all their 26 roster spots with all the most coveted players, I’d like to see the A’s, Rockies and Fish shock us all and sign some players that no one had them in on.
RunDMC
The hyperbolic statement wouldn’t work as well if the comp for him was more realistic like a baseline Ford Bronco or Chevy Traverse. But, I feel ya.
Not exactly shocked at this. If viewing rights have been figured out and they don’t have a costly stadium expense they can devote to other operational expenses. I am shocked though if A’s took an option away from Steve Cohen. Not on my bingo card.
sacball
Vivek (who owns the land surrounding and the Rivercats) is letting the A’s play there for free, glad to see they’re taking advantage of that and are spending $$
letsgooakland123
A’s paid $2.5 million rent PER SEASON in Oakland. Free rent doesn’t have anything to do with it
Lionoflambs
To his credit Eric Chavez was really good, then he turned 30…
Severino an Athletic? Didn’t see this coming but perhaps maybe should have? A return to the Mets was the best choice for his career…
websoulsurfer
Who is paying for the $7 million new clubhouse building out beyond left field and $12 million in stadium improvements?
Was there recently and it looked like they had torn out the field entirely and were laying new drainage. Looked like a bunch of the field level bowl of seats had been torn out too. Must be upgrading those. Also saw some work on the sides of grandstand up to the roofs. Probably to give access for cameras.
From what I read in the Bee that day the new building is taking up the left field berm area and there will not be temporary bleachers on the right field berms, so still only 11k seats and some on the right field grass.
case
Chavez was a great example of a good offensive player that declined, but still earned most of his salary by being a league average hitter providing quality defense… Texiera’esque
sacball
MLB is footing the bill for all of the improvements at Sutter Health Park
Pads Fans
I can find nothing that says anything close to that Sacball. Where did you find that info?
Pads Fans
They paid $1.25 million rent per season in the Coliseum. It cost the city/county money each time they played a game and that is why the Coliseum Authority was not willing to continue to lease to them at the same price once they said they were moving.
Gwynning
They musta hit a jackpot last night!
Dorothy_Mantooth
What I hope is next is that the A’s decide to acquire Masa Yoshida from the Red Sox, with Boston covering 50% of his remaining salary. What would be even better is if the Sox can throw in Wilyer Abreu and someone like Kutter Crawford and get Brent Rooker back in return for them. This would help Oak/Sac/LV spend more money by acquiring Yoshida for around $9M/yr, give them a pre-Arb gold glove OF in Abreu and another solid SP while moving on from a 30 year old Rooker who is getting more expensive year over year for them and will not be part of the next competitive A’s team. Boston needs more RHH in their lineup and Rooker’s swing in built for Fenway. Boston would then need to sign a FA SP to replace Crawford, but I believe this would be a fair return for Rooker.
unpaidobserver
They said theyd overpay not take out other peoples garbage.
sacball
Yeah they didn’t sign Severino to turn around and trade Brent Rooker…
los_leebos
Not Oak. That’s the only thing we’re 100% sure about this team’s name.
Manks/Yets
“Not The Oakland A’s” – I’d buy that jersey
bhambrave
They’ve always had money. They just didn’t want to spend it on the team.
Barstool Rodeo
Good for the A’s and their fans
UrNotMyDad
I’m sure all 12 of the fans that are gonna schlep to Sacramento are thrilled.
unpaidobserver
Nah the people in and around Sacramento are excited. That may last at least until the team drops out of contention.
Bart Harley Jarvis
@UrNotMyDad,
I’ll see you there for the Memorial Day weekend series against the Phillies! Sacramento A’s, say it!
bwmiller79
They will sell out every game they play in Sacramento, going to be great.
Luis Severino got a good deal. I didn’t expect him to get that kind of deal.
Nice to see the A’s get a quality starter though, let’s hope he can stay on the field. A’s could be decent in ’25.
tjmacari
Sacramento fans are lucky they are getting the 2025 A’s and not the 2023 A’s! 2025-2027 A’s should be at least an average team. Last year they were .500 2nd half of the season and their young guys are only getting better
Pads Fans
I guess we will see on December 9th when season tickets go on sale. The A’s originally required those that wanted season tickets to commit for all 3 years up front and no one signed up.
Pads Fans
bwmiller, no one did. Sevy got bag to go to SacTown little league park.
bwmiller79
Well only have to fill the place with 15K fans, I’d take the season tickets for one year, I’d go to the games. I think they should keep the minor league promotions though, $1 veggie dogs. $1 Sierra Nevada drafts.
WadeBoggsWildRide
So mid-April?
Not a clever name
For years I watched the kings be one of the worst teams in basketball, I’m talking pre Bibby days when we had wayman tisdale and the Ltraon as our headliners. The kings would sell out or nearly sell out arco every night, even being nowhere near contention. Sacramento sports fans are like Portland, good fans that support their teams win or lose, the A’s will do fine all three years filling Rivercat stadium.
Pads Fans
We will see on Monday. The A’s could not get anyone to commit to season tickets for all 3 seasons when they offered seat licenses. That is why they put off putting seasons tickets up for sale until Monday,
Pads Fans
14,114 including the berms, if they are both still there.
A'sfaninLondonUK
Thanks Barstool,
I have a feeling we have to spend money to make money (in terms of still receiving revenue shares) so a big thanks to the rest of the leagues for putting up with Scrooge McWanker (oops predictive text) John Fisher, sending us to Vegas, via beautiful Sacramento.
You couldn’t make this up could you?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Go, Sacramento A’s! Nice signing. Yay, A’s!
(It is Sacramento A’s not West sacramento A’s just like no one calls them the Santa Clara 49ers or the Inglewood Rams.)
Kruk it
Hell be on the market before the first paycheck is due!!
A'sfaninLondonUK
@Kruk It
This Soto guy. Does he like history in and around Auburn? He’ll find gold, I tell you.
statman
Both their fans are excited to get a 4-ish ERA SP at an exorbitant rate!
RussianFemboy
@statman
Yet he’s still an above average pitcher.
YourDreamGM
Contracts fine. Doubt A’s even look at era.
davemlaw
If you look at their record last season in the 2nd half you could see them coming.
This team is on the rise with a nice group of young position players and pitching. This should really wake up Seattle to pull out their wallet and supplement their team with some bats.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@dave
For the love of God, please don’t give anyone the idea that we might be competitive. Looks like we won’t pay for Andujar, so it’s my trusty dog, blind boy Fuller in left field chewing on a gout bandage.
Please be quiet. Very quiet…
davemlaw
Funny. I’m going to my local casino today and place a wager on the A’s making the postseason. Odds should still be good for the rest of the day.
Captain K-Midd
It’s hilarious that they made it $67 million, literally $1 million more than the Chavez contract so when the lists of largest contracts by franchise come up every year, they don’t have to keep showing a contract from 20 years ago while everyone else has one post 2020. Literally the only reason for that. Wouldn’t expect anything less from Fisher. SEE – we spend money too! And if Severino doesn’t get hurt, he will probably opt out and not even see that full $67 million from the A’s
websoulsurfer
The Athletics paid Severino 30% more than he was expected to get to entice him to play in a park with a park factor the same as GABP for the next 3 years.
TigerCam05
wut
Damn Yankee$
Everyone’s reaction to this contract is exactly why major-league baseball doesn’t need a salary cap, but a salary floor. If small market teams can’t meet that floor, they should be forced to sell to someone who can.
YourDreamGM
There is a floor. Minimum salary and union grievance and other teams owners. If you want a higher floor you will need a ceiling. That would require a work stoppage because players probably wouldn’t be interested and even more difficult owners wanting it. The mega and large cities do everything they can to not share their $. Why would they want to just share it with everyone. And the small mid markets aren’t going to vote for a floor without getting paid more $.
Damn Yankee$
The floor is way too low and there is no ceiling. Teams can spend as much as they want if they’re willing to go over on the tax.
YourDreamGM
I am for a legit cap. Fans of 20 teams would. Only Mega and large cities fans enjoy 250m 300m vs 100m teams. I wouldn’t want to share my $ though.
They can’t spend as much as they want. Every team has a budget. But what they can spend is incredibly unfair advantage. The luxury tax obviously isn’t enough of a penalty. I think they can make it more painful. Don’t see a cap coming soon though.
JoeBrady
Damn_Yankees
The floor is way too low and there is no ceiling.
===========================
Which is why there is no floor. If you want a floor, you have to have a ceiling.
dezpoo
What’s your minimum floor? The average salary for all teams last year was around $166M … $100M floor seems too low.
YourDreamGM
These small markets only spend 100m when contending. Never spent more than 130. Large markets would have to share more $ to get anything higher than 100. Only fans of small mid markets really want a cap. Yankees Dodgers don’t want to share their $. Small markets seem content on getting what they get and not spending.
Damn Yankee$
Joe, the ceiling is essentially the first luxury tax threshold.
Damn Yankee$
Average salary doesn’t reflect teams who refuse to spend. Perhaps a minimum floor of 175m.
kzw
@DreamGM…why exactly do they need a ceiling just because there is a floor? I’ve seen numerous reasons, but none of them have me sold on the idea. They already have the luxury tax, which does whatever the heck it does. But having a floor will require some teams to spend more which means you lower level FA’s (plus teams being more willing to sign younger, pre-arb players to extensions) will end up with more money if just for the sake of teams being forced to spend. Your top of the line FA are still going to get paid. But forcing a floor on teams such as the Pirates (who is the team I root for) will require to actively spend money which will benefit all free agents and some pre-arb players. Now…like I said, I’m not arguing with you about there needing to be ceiling just because there is a floor, but I’m yet to see anything to force me to agree. Maybe…just maybe…your the man for the job.
YourDreamGM
@kzw there is a floor. Minimum salary and minimum spending to keep getting revenue sharing. How high a floor do you want? Why would small markets vote for a floor without a cap? Or without getting more revenue sharing? Why would large markets want to give bob Nutting their $? Owners have to approve this. What incentive is there for small market owners to be forced to spend more $? Either they are handed more $ or large markets can’t spend anymore than them so they have a equal chance of winning.
kzw
@DreamGM…The owners already are giving Bob Nutting their money. Are the large market teams ok with Nutting just shoving that money into his pocket or using it to invest in things other than the product on the field? If anybody says yes to that, then revenue sharing is nothing more than hush money at this point. Hey Pittsburgh…here’s a few million dollars to continue to suck to make it easier for us to win. Signed…every major market franchise. It doesn’t make sense to me. There is no reason to change the top end of the scale. If the Dodgers want to continue to splurge, then let them. As for why smaller markets would vote for a floor without a cap is easy. Revenue sharing. They put a hard salary cap in place, that free money goes bye bye. And you say the owners need to vote to approve any of this, and while that is true, so does the Players Union. This benefits the players by forcing teams to invest the revenue sharing money (or most of it) on the on-field product instead of some academy in the Dominican Republic. That means more money for a lot of of your middling players.
stymeedone
Correction: Teams can spend as much as they want if they are able to go over on the tax. Fixed it for you.
stymeedone
The ceiling has been broken, so it is no ceiling.
stymeedone
Average salary doesn’t reflect teams who refuse to spend (like they have big market revenues). Fixed it for you again.
stymeedone
Why would either side want to do ceilings and floors? Ask the NFL. It certainly seems to work for them. Playoffs aren’t dominated by large market teams. The quality of the front office is the determining factor. Even NY and LA teams are not guaranteed to make the playoffs every year. Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and KC can’t complain about not having the fiscal means to compete. A Kansas City team can be dominant over time, and even Detroit has the ability to turn things around. It makes for a better game, and Everyone makes money!
case
This probably is the floor. The A’s were removed from revenue sharing for just pocketing the money. The player’s union brought them back but they were clearly just keeping it again so it’s likely this move was under the threat of removing them again.
Rational_Mets_Fan
Keep in mind folks these high spending teams are in high income tax states &/or charge a high city tax on income. They have to pay more to get more. This along with the CBT are major reasons for the deferrals. Not an accountant just a theory.
kzw
@Rational…I would argue against that because the players and their agents know that the deferrals is essentially less money for both of them. Sure…Ohtani’s $700 million looks great as a headline, but in the opening sentence of the story when it says it’s present day value is over 200+ million less than that, it shows how much it impacts the players. The deferrals work in both the clubs and players favor because it lessens the tax hit for the clubs and still provides a yearly income for the player on top of the privileges they get after retirement.
Tigers3232
@Rational Deferrals allow teams to invest the $ at today’s value and it accrued to the value of the deferral by the time the player collects. Funding the deferrals is not optional for teams, it is stipulated a s in the CBA.
Damn Yankee$
I don’t think the athletics being removed from revenue sharing is enough. Franchisees that absolutely refuse to spend money should be forced to sell.
Tigers3232
@Damn That’s a slippery slope there. The monopoly that is MLB is already slippery enough without forcing franchises to sell over spending.
There also are times when teams are better suited not to spend and to focus on replensing young talent. Clearly that’s not the sole issue with A’s. But teams spending like them often are in that spot.
It does seem more needs to be done though to address teams not spending. Maybe like the luxury tax the penalties could have tiers and get worse over time. This could also make teams reconsider tanking and if they do make them execute quickly and have a clear path. It would also make teams just not spending just dig a deeper and deeper hole forcing the owner to either act or move on.
Rational_Mets_Fan
I truly believe Ohtani signed that contract to allow the Dodgers to invest to win. He and others will also have the income through marketing deals. Let’s say they are domiciled in a low tax state like Florida during the off season. Those dollars are not subject to the high state income taxes. If you play 82 games in CA or NYC your salary gets a 10% tax hit vs say playing in TX.
VermonsterSD
Huh?
AaronJudgeMVP29
Why?
Yankee Clipper
Revenue sharing.
tigers182
If the homeless A’s, who can’t even afford to give their players soda pop, can sign free agents, the the Tigers better spend some kind of money this offseason
This one belongs to the Reds
Well, the A’s certainly couldn’t spend any less.
joew
Ben Cherington: “challenge accepted, hold my beer’
Kruk it
Nutting just raised the payroll by 20 bucks
kzw
@Joe…I hope you are right!
Gwynning
Billy Beane got money for the vending machines, all is well.
YourDreamGM
Stuffs no good for you anyways. And most people never had free vending machines at work. You think your special Justice? Even in 2001 players could afford it or just brought a couple 2L of faygo every day.
case
The A’s, knee deep in pride.
Luis_Fazenda
@tigers182
Billy likes to keep the money on the field.
zacharydmanprin
Billy Beane hasn’t been involved in baseball operations since 2017.
YourDreamGM
@zachary excellent point
julyn82001
Oh Billy is around. Always has always will…
unpaidobserver
Nah hes actually super fulltime on a stat platform for soccer like he helped develop for baseball.
Flyby
sure lets go and sign a short stop to a multi year deal. what could possibly go wrong with that? too soon?
84LeFlore
I just read the ChiSox have Luis Robert Jr on the trading block. I would love to see the Tigers trade for him. An OF of Riley, Meadows and Robert would catch everything. Carp can rotate out there from DH. I’d really like the Tigs to work Carp out at 1B some for more ABs and/or as potential platoon for Tork.
Robert Jr would probably cost too much in players. Yes, 3B is a bigger concern long-term, but if the best available RH bat is someone like Robert, and the best available 3B is Bohm, then get the RF and fill 3B later.
Harris pretty much said that was part of their strategy, immediately bringing up Vierling’s versatility coming into play when adding to the roster: MV would play more OF or more 3B, depending on whom they acquire.
letsgooakland123
ok and this relates to severino and the a’s why?
10centBeerNight
Good for Luis. Thank you for a great season in Queens.
jdgoat
Certainly didn’t get that one correct in the prediction contest
Joe says...
C’mon JD that one was a gimme. Everybody had this.
zacharydmanprin
Throwing money at anyone who will take it. Especially when they aren’t worth it.
RobbyTheBean
Wow
VegasMoved
As we all predicted.
theonlydynasty
Hoping to trade him??
just_thinkin
Hilarious, I love it.
ChangedName
Largest contract in team history!
Sk8
Dave Stewart must be fuming right now.
unpaidobserver
It was Eric Chavez whose contract it topped.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Maybe Dave Stewart can unleash a bit of misdirected anger for Chavez.
CaseyAbell
But this can’t be! MLBTR kept telling me that nobody wanted to play in a minor league stadium!
What a joke. A free agent will play on Mars for enough money. The dollars talk, not the ballpark.
wvsteve
For that much I will live on mars for three years. Wouldn’t you? lol
marinersblue96
This was a massive overpay. There is little chance he opts out of this contract.
YourDreamGM
Not massive. Not even a over pay at all. Exactly as I expected. Right in line with same tier of pitchers. If healthy there’s a good chance he opts out. They should have held their ground or paid a bit more or added a club option for more $.
dano62
Money’s abit high but the A’s need to; the term, while amenable, is the risk. If you get 400 innings over the 3 years it’s a win…
marinersblue96
@YourDreamGM a 1.8 bWAR over the last 3 years along with the draft compensation is an overpay for a guy who has averaged 124 innings over that same period of time.
YourDreamGM
Smart teams would never even look at bwar or go back 3 years ago or care about average innings. Teams should worry about draft picks more I agree.
Lindor's Bodyguard
$10 million bonus
$19 million
$19 million
——————
3rd year $19 million
He’s opting out if he can get more than $19 million. He needs to stay healthy for the next 2 seasons.
Rexhudler86
@lindor. Not only that he will be traded the 2nd year. A’s definitely did it to get back into the revenue sharing program. Severino did it for 2/48 probably his best offer or only one. A’s feel like they can trade him for something better than a 5th pick to be willing to sacrifice one.
Steve Adams
We’ve said consistently that they’ll need to dramatically overpay to sign free agents and that they’re likely motivated to do so. I picked them for multiple players on our Top 50 list. Darragh wrote a 1600-word opinion piece on why he thought it was likely the A’s will spend more money than anyone is giving them credit for:
mlbtraderumors.com/2024/11/do-we-need-to-rethink-t…
But… ok?
Ma4170
You did call it. I’m hoping a couple of other moves follow. Would be nice to see them not be cheap doormats for another year.
Mikenmn
We were warned but it’s still a shock to the system to actually see it happen–and with this player at that price.
CaseyAbell
As a certain senile president likes to say…come on, man. Even in this post you make a big deal about Walker Buehler “flatly” rejecting a minor league park. Oh, please. For enough money Buehler’s flat rejection would turn into frantic acceptance.
It looks like an overpay for Severino, but starting pitchers have been getting overpays repeatedly this offseason, regardless of the ballparks. In fact, the supposed overpays have become so common that they’re just looking like the new normal.
YourDreamGM
Doesn’t look like a over pay at all. Let alone dramatically. Right in line with all the similar pitchers signed. They should have to pay a bit more because they aren’t as strong contender and California cost more to live. On a list of priorities the stadium won’t be near the top for most people. #1 is $ $ $ and it’s a huge gap to #2
JRamHOF
Gonna cry?
WadeBoggsWildRide
I am actually surprised some numbskull isn’t whining about your senile comment. Has everyone finally accepted that he is a mindless husk? Pardon me… PLEASE!
just_thinkin
It’s not even that big of an overpay. It’s 2/$48. For a team with no payroll. They get a ML SP for a couple years to hold them over. Honestly, it’s a pretty smart deal.
Pads Fans
Its only 2/48 if he pitches extremely well and opts out. Otherwise its 3/67..
just_thinkin
Or he just wants out of minor league As. He gets the money up front and if he has to leave a little on the table to go somewhere more attractive, so be it. By the time he opts out $19 will be like $12.
case
The annual value and length seem about right in the current market but including an opt out on a 3 year guarantee for a guy that has one healthy season since 2018 is definitely an overpay.
YourDreamGM
Teams don’t care about since 2018 for anything.
bhambrave
That doesn’t mean he wants to play in a milb ballpark, just that he will.
Philly A's
Walker Buehler told the A’s he didn’t want to play in a MiLB park according to Kotsay, I’m sure they were willing to overpay for him as well,
YourDreamGM
That’s 1 guy. If he wants to make less $ good for him. I’d follow the $ and play in a little league park if need be. Even a parking lot or strip mine.
Rexhudler86
@yourdream. Severino could’ve very well been the last guy standing without a chair since he had a pick attached. He got the offer and said where’s the pen.
BaseballBrian
He might even make 35 starts on Uranus.
Tim Dierkes
We literally said the opposite of that
just_thinkin
No one can tell who you’re replying to. Please fix the comments section sir.
bhambrave
The OP.
Blackpink in the area
Gross
User 1939973770
How does this tie to the Cardinals?
proton
This is the wrong site for anything to be about the Arizona Cardinals. It is a swipe or two over.
rct
Still think the Mets were “insane” to offer him the QO? Still think Severino was “stupid” not to take it? lmaooo
Blackpink in the area
Yes i still think that. No way anyone should have predicted this would happen.
This is a stupid stupid contract. I have no idea what the Athletics are thinking.
rct
“No way anyone should have predicted this would happen.”
Except people did predict it. Like me to you when you kept insisting the Mets and Severino were both stupid. Maybe not $67 million but everyone was telling you that Severino would get a multi-year deal worth far more than the QO in total.
Mets get a comp pick. Severino gets a multi-year deal worth far more than the QO. Yet you incredibly still think the Mets and Severino made the wrong moves. It’s OK to admit you were wrong.
Blackpink in the area
Sometimes bad decisions work out you defensive little dork.
This is easily the worst contract handed out this offseason and my guess is it will be the worst handed out all offseason. This was stupid. Glad it’s not my team that handed out this stupid contract.
User 1939973770
As an Astros fan, let’s wait and see what Bregman signs. I think it’ll be dumb if any team signs him for longer than 7 years. Personally, I think anything above an AAV of ~26MM and longer than 5 years will be terrible.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The A’s needed a frontline starter and they needed to overpay to get said starter to pass on teams more certain to make the postseason.
This is a smart contract just an overpay. By spending money only now, the A’s will get back every penny and more in public financing for a new arena.
Blackpink in the area
He’s not a frontline starter.
kzw
@blackpink…While I do agree this is an overpay, I feel like signing a DH for 10+ years for over $600 million will be the worst contract handed out this offseason.
Blackpink in the area
I don’t believe Soto is actually getting 600 million i think thats made up nonsense.
Johnny Devil
Pathetic. If this guy is a Frontline starter, baseball is in deep trouble. A Frontline starter is Zach Wheeler. Go away.
YourDreamGM
Any knowledgeable baseball person expected the qualifying offer and this contract. Even casual fans who pay attention to things knew this. You have to be pretty clueless to not have expected this.
Definitely not front line. But he is a playoff starter mid rotation.
Philly A's
“This is a stupid stupid contract. I have no idea what the Athletics are thinking.”
A’s need to overspend so they continue to get revenue sharing. They have $0 in contracts next year. MLBTR predicted 3 years at $51m, so this is $16m more, with an opt out in the 2nd year. They will trade him after 2025 and only be on the hook for half of it.
That’s what the A’s are thinking.
Blackpink in the area
Whatever you want to tell yourself champ. This is one stupid contract.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Zach Wheeler is a top 5 pitcher in all of baseball, maybe higher. A frontline starter to me is a 1 or 2, with 30 teams, that means top 60 starting pitcher.
Now Yu Know
@ rct You won’t get Blackpink to admit he’s wrong. He’s a metrics guy that doesn’t actually watch your team’s games, but yet makes comments as if he knows more about your team than you do. Last year he got into a disagreement with me about why he believed Pham was better than Profar for the Padres. When I called him out for not actually watching the Padres, he called me… wait for it… “defensive.” Same word he used for you.
Blackpink in the area
A metrics guy?
I look at stats. Severino had an FIP over 4 and has had major injury problems the last few years.
I don’t remember this supposed conversation about Pham and Profar at all. But Profar had been a bum up until last year. If anyone else thought he was going to have the season he had he would have got a lot more money than he did.
Get a life losers.
WadeBoggsWildRide
You miss spelled “back of the rotation starter”
WadeBoggsWildRide
I misspelled misspelled. Just wow
YourDreamGM
Black pink is definitely not a metrics guy.
JoeBrady
Blackpink in the area
No way anyone should have predicted this would happen.
=====================
MLB-R predicted $17M*3. This is not that far off.
YourDreamGM
Everyone in Mets agency predicted it or they wouldn’t have given him the QO. Everyone at his agency predicted it or they would have accepted the QO. So everyone who matters and should know predicted it. Obviously it came as no surprise to me.
Blackpink in the area
It’s pretty far off Joe. And he’s got an opt out too.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Black pink
Tell me why you think this contract is so much worse than the Angels deal with Kikuchi, for the same years and roughly the same dollars, just a week or two earlier?
Blackpink in the area
Both deals are dumb. But this one is worse. This costs the Athletics a draft pick and it also includes an option out.
These are stupid deals being handed out so far. This will be proven over time it’s not the new normal these are just stupid deals.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Black pink
I disagree. Severino has a better career and recent ERA, FIP and WHIP. For an important game, I would much rather have Severino. Severino is a number two starter with an injury history, Kikuchi is more like a number four innings eater. If the contract is bad, the opt out does not make it worse, it only limits the upside. So, your only point that I find persuasive is the pick. Even with the comp pick, I prefer the Severino signing by the A’s over the Kikuchi signing by the Angels. I expect the A’s to finish ahead of the Angels in 2025. And the Angels have the advantage of a location near Newport Beach, so a wealthy ballplayer can live right on the ocean in luxury. I think you are just wrong about Severino being the worst contract of this offseason. Boyd got $29 million for two years and he won’t be ready at the start of 2025. Kikuchi and Montas got big money, I like the Severino deal better than Kikuchi, Montas or Boyd. Do you know who deserves an apology, the Cincinnati Reds! Getting Nick Martinez on the QO seems like a better deal than all four contracts that I mentioned, including Severino. Lots of people mocked the Reds, Martinez pitched well in a hitter-friendly park. Especially since the Reds have Burns and Petty possibly ready for 2026.
Blackpink in the area
Are you liking your own comments?
Kikuchi had a better 2024.
Severino has better career numbers but they are propped up by what he did in 2017 and 2018 and that was a LONG TIMe ago. All these deals are dumb. Montas was an overpay. So was Boyd
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Blackpink
Per baseball reference, Severino had a higher WAR in 2024 than Kikuchi, Montas or Boyd.
I “like” baseball reference.
Blackpink in the area
Fangraphs says Kikuchi was better. And again less money no draft pick no opt out. And I didn’t like the Kikuchi contract either.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Having watched on MLB.com Severino, Kikuchi and Montas pitch in 2024, the eye test has the three in that order this past year. I did not actually see Boyd pitch live or on tv in 2024. Like I said, they are all overpays, but so far that is what this market has generated. And the A’s needed a little extra compared to a team more likely to make the post-season. In any event, I think we have both made our points and we are not going to persuade each other. Just initially you made Severino sound like the worst contract for this off-season, made or yet to come, and I think it is going rate. Nick Martinez had 4.0 WAR last season and his taking the QO seems like a solid deal for the Reds. Many people seemed surprised that the Reds offered that QO to him.
Blackpink in the area
What did you watch all those guys make all their starts? Of course you didn’t thats why we use stats instead of your eye test.
Martinez was really good as recently as last year. Severino hasn’t been really good since 2018.
I think this ends up being the worst contract all offseason but we will see.
Kash Considerations
Oh, Blackpink had a silly post based on a ridiculous position? Today must be a day that ends in “y”!
rct
@Now Yu Know: He got all huffy at me for calling Severino “Sevy” the other day. Very strange when everyone calls him that and has for years. I don’t expect him to admit he’s wrong here, even though he definitely is/was.
Tigers3232
Pivetta, Manaea, Sevweino, and Martinez all received QOs. Seems MLB GMS clearly know something you don’t.
Healthy starting pitching has gotten very expensive. And if players were to bite on QO as Martinez did, team gets a veteran starting pitcher with no longterm commitment. They pay a bit higher AAV for the financial flexibility that they maintain.
Tigers3232
Skip your meds again today Joel???
wvsteve
Good for them and their fans. Really have some great position players. Hopefully they can get a few more arms
bhambrave
What fans?
Seamaholic
They’ll fill the Sacto stadium easy. That’s one of the biggest AAA cities (bigger than Oakland I think) and they want a MLB team there and have an incentive to prove they can support one. The A’s will go to Vegas but if they draw well I bet Sacto is in the thick of the next expansion.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@Seamaholic
I’m trying to fly over & catch a couple of games in April (due to work travel & the like it’ll be really difficult for me later in the year) and it seems to be really difficult to get tickets already….
Steinbrenner2728
Seamaholic and seamaholic 2:
They won’t end up going to Vegas, as much as you want them to, as a Mariners fan, sorry.
kingcong95
Does anyone realize this is the biggest contract in franchise history…by 1M?
This one belongs to the Reds
Crazy money.
Sk8
Luis is going to earn more than the Zillow Zestimate of the A’s new stadium.
Salzilla
Well that’s an interesting development.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
Well, this is certainly something.
ChangedName
The A’s and White Sox are still the only teams to never hand out a $100 million+ contract.
Rays in the Bay
So the Athletics have money? Since when? This will blow up in their faces. It’s like when the Rockies signed Kris Bryant. Didn’t need him, didn’t get him support, and now they’re stuck with one of the worst contracts in the league.
Wire to wire 2024
He’s barely played
Chicken In Philly?
But the A’s have a really solid lineup and do need starting pitching, so your analogy makes zero sense.
Seamaholic
I dunno bout that. They have a superb DH/RF, a promising 1B and an up and coming SS. But the rest is pretty meh.
bwmiller79
Ruiz could be a very good CF and a great lead off hitter if his knee heals. Could easily lead the league in SBs. Langeliers is a potential all star behind the plate. I’d let Rooker go before either of those two players. Would love to see the A’s deal Rooker for Luis Angel Acuna. Ruiz and Acuna at the top of their lineup would be sweet.
websoulsurfer
bw, Ruiz has a negative WAR in 178 games over 3 seasons in the majors. He has never been above negative value in any season. He played 132 games, stole 67 bases, and still had a negative WAR in 2023. Any replacement level player would be as good as he has been or better.
Call up Colby Thomas and I am fairly certain he will provide as much value at the position as Ruiz.
bwmiller79
I’m a buyer on Ruiz, in 2022 between AA/AAA he hit hit .332 with a .447 OBP in 540 ABs, added 16 HRs and swiped 80+ bases. In ’23 he had a good rookie season with the A’s, hit .254 with a .309 OBP, 67 SBs. The speed is legit, and that speed is going to play well in center field.
He has the makings of a great leadoff hitter in the traditional sense, contact hitter / strong OBP / great wheels. He is 6’0, only 25 yrs old, will add a little to his frame, probably add a little power to his game. Knee injury is a concern with how important the speed is to his game but he should make a full recovery.
websoulsurfer
Esteury had a negative WAR and an 85 OPS+ in 2023 with the A’s. Add to that the fact that he was absolutely terrible on defense in CF with a -17 DRS. Any AAA OF would provide as much value to the team.
averagejoe15
What a terrible take. A 3-year contract at less than $25M a year will never qualify as ‘one of the worst contracts in the league.’ The guy could not pitch for the next years and it still wouldn’t be a contender.
Rays in the Bay
@averagejoe
I was referring to the Rockies and comparing their situations. No contract will be as bad as Bryant’s but the circumstances are similar. Teams that are not just one piece away from a world series picking up an expensive FA.
Now if the A’s continue to add to their roster, then I’ll retract my statement. But at this point it’s a puzzling signing if he’s the only FA they sign.
websoulsurfer
Javy Baez contract? Stephen Strasburg? Anthony Rendon?
YourDreamGM
Bryant was bad contract. This one is market price at least. And you can always trade pitching.
Rays in the Bay
@Changed
Sorry, my previous comment was not aimed at you, it was supposed to be a separate comment.
YanksPhan42
Corbin Burnes just got full wood! If Sevy is worth this, how much is HE worth??
Also love this for the Yankees because Stroman and Nestor are now HUGE bargains as trade chips.
Gwynning
Nobody wants Stro unless Cash buys his contract.
YanksPhan42
Dead wrong! He’s an innings eater with 18m left this year and an option next year. With the price of starting pitching, that short deal for a 3-4 starter absolutely has value.
Blackpink in the area
If that contract has value then why would the Yankees want to trade it?
Gwynning
No, he’s an overpaid and ineffective headcase. I wouldn’t want him unless he was a minimum wage candidate and even then I’m iffy.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Cubs will take Stroman back for $3 million a year any day of the week. Overpaid yes, but still an asset.
YanksPhan42
Because they have 6 starters! Duh.
YourDreamGM
Stroman can probably still pitch. Would have to be a discount for me. I wouldn’t want a annoying person on team.
YankeesBleacherCreature
If Sevy is worth $22.3M AAV and Montas is worth $17M AAV, then Stroman at 2/$18.25M AAV is tradeable. I agree the price tag for Nestor has gone up considerably.
YourDreamGM
Sevy Burnes are very similar. Someone will pay Burnes more and for longer because of name recognition and he has a better health record.
Blackpink in the area
Burnes is an ace. Severino hasn’t been an ace since 2018. What on earth are you talking about???
YourDreamGM
Burnes is a mid rotation innings eater. Valuable. More valuable than Sevy. Younger a bit a believe. Safer bet than Sevy. Slightly better. But similar. Strong 3 vs weak 3 I know you can’t see it. You didn’t see Sevy getting a qualifying offer or a multi year contract. You still look at career numbers and era.
Blackpink in the area
What the f are you talking about???
kenphelpsformvp
yourdreamGM is a clown. don’t try and debate that dopey.
letsgooakland123
Uh woah
A’s fan here – Severino is, at absolute best, a #2-3 on a good team.
Burnes is damn near #2-3 in the league.
YourDreamGM
That’s why your a A’s fine. You simply aren’t aware of the other teams and the pitching they have.
Blackpink in the area
Yeah you are the only one who understands that Severino and his plus 4 FIP is actually an ace.
You are obnoxious and dumb
Pads Fans
Burnes is going to get Snell AAV over 2 more years.
clubberlang
People are sleeping on the A’s. They had a strong finish last season
YourDreamGM
With the right moves they can be a winning team. They didn’t trade Rooker so seems they believe this as well.
bwmiller79
Going to be an interesting year to follow the A’s in Sacramento. If I were a player, I think it would be nice to be back in the small ball park for home games, it would be like a decompression, a real relaxation, coming off a road trip, playing in the big coliseums, and then returning home to the small ball field, nice and quiet in comparison, think it would be relaxing in a way that could benefit them. Other clubs won’t have that same impression of the place, they will come in mocking and cocky and the A’s gonna whip them. Interesting dynamic.
The McNasty1
Severino’s career is kaput.
Gwynning
U just Nasty!
YourDreamGM
You Nasty taking the old lady to see wicked so many times!
Gwynning
I let the girls go see it, I feigned an illness lol
ohyeadam
Good for him. Got his bag. Can take the signing bonus and salary then walk with the opt out. Although pitching in a minor league park probably won’t help his numbers
averagejoe15
It’s one of the most pitcher friendly parks in the notoriously hitter friendly PCL. I’d be less worried about the park and more worried about the team behind me as far as numbers are concerned.
YourDreamGM
Gms other than aj Preller can factor in the park and adjust accordingly.
rct
Not sure why the minor league park would hurt his numbers. The dimensions in Sacramento:
Left field: 330 feet (101 m)
Center field: 403 feet (123 m)
Right field: 325 feet (99 m)
Backstop: 58 feet (18 m)
Oakland Coliseum:
Left field 330 feet (101 m)
Left center 388 feet (118 m)
Center field 400 feet (122 m)
Right center 388 feet (118 m)
Right field 330 feet (101 m)
Backstop 60 feet (18 m)
I can’t find left-center or right-center for Sacramento but the dimensions otherwise seem similar if you look at the shape of both outfields.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
RCT
Nice post
User 1939973770
Looking at the ballpark on google maps, I’d guess left center is very close to 388 feet and that sharp angle in right field is probably 375/380.
Digdugler
A’s are hilarious
User 1939973770
lol what?????????
Doubledown2142
Wow!!! Did not see this coming! Yay!
Ma4170
Well… I like that the A’s spent some money
But from Severino’s perspective… why? For a few million extra when you’re already a multi-millionaire? Unless he thinks he’ll just get traded at the deadline this year, but it’s a three year commitment, not just one.
I would actually like to see the A’s be more competitive again though.
Seamaholic
There’s an opt out if he isn’t traded. He is certainly not planning on ever pitching in Vegas, or for the A’s in 2026.
Ma4170
Ah, thanks, see it now… opt out after year 2
DarrenDreifortsContract
He will have no choice if he gets hurt again or just sucks.
YourDreamGM
Most people are only concerned about the $. Dodgers Yankees can’t sign everyone. And they go after top of the market a ton. Larger markets worry about the luxury tax. Small markets have never spent more than 130m. Most contenders are pushing max payroll already. Oakland can be better than most people think. They teams that would be interested in Sevy already signed guys. He probably didn’t want to risk not having a chair when the music stopped.
johnrealtime
My guess is that the A’s offered something that the others didn’t (in addition to total dollars). Either that third year, the opt out, or both could have been inclusions that brought him to this unlikely home
Ma4170
just felt like an odd move for someone in his 30s looking to win a title, but I’m sure you’re right. And like Seam said, he’ll be traded to a contender anyway at deadline if he does remotely well.
fjmendez
Lmao bro the A’s are going to be competing. They have a solid core with Rooker, Miller, Langeliers, Butler, and Bleday.
Ma4170
I dont think they will but i hope you’re right
greg1
I guess the A’s figure they’ll have some extra money coming in from fan attendance in Sacramento next season!
YourDreamGM
Or they could have spent 20 30 million more last year but didn’t.
mets1977
Wow the Starting Pitcher cost for mid level pitching is insane
tjmacari
A’s improved by about 20 games last year, and had a .500 record in their second-half. Add Severino, another reliever, and a 3B man, and they could *definitely* finish about .500 this season
just_thinkin
agree
Matt M.
If anyone had this in the free agent contest they should just automatically win….
Cohn Joppolella
A’s going all-in this season!!!
fenwayfrank
W O W ! And he was given a qualifying offer from the Mets!
KnicksFanCavsFan
Shout out to Rich Paul. I’m so happy Klutch has entered the baseball arena. Hockey is next!!!!
just_thinkin
Severino was like, “Wait, you’d give me $29 million in year 1 of the deal? And I don’t even have to stay all 3 years?”
joew
yeah I don’t like blind optouts. would rather conditional ones like if the team is bad the player can opt out or something.
ohyeadam
Just thinking, you hit the nail on the head with this comment
just_thinkin
thx homie
Captainmike1
He has to stay two years
just_thinkin
Like I said, he doesn’t have to stay 3 years. Lol.
YourDreamGM
Put the captain down mike
NYCPetrovic
I don’t think anyone saw that coming. Good for him. He was a great addition for Mets, sad to see him not get resigned.
julyn82001
Well, A’s are forced to pay now or shall we say “overpaid”? But seriously the money is good specially for Luis. Go A’s!
Veejh
What was MLBTR prediction amount?
Philly A's
3 years, $51M
Jean Matrac
3/$51M.
helf35
If they are gonna spend why not trade for Luis Robert. If they are actually gonna try and compete. Would probably be a decent gamble here.
metsin4
There current outfield is better then him.
websoulsurfer
Butler. Bleday, and Brown?
AllAboutBaseball
I’m sure by next week Winter Meetings he will be traded for a pack of gum and seeds
StupendousYappi
What a waste of money. He’s really not that good at all and the A’s aren’t going nowhere anyway.
HalosHeavenJJ
Wow. The A’s finally spend money.
YankeesBleacherCreature
So did the Angels signing a multi-year SP! Gotta be the Cali tap water!
Rays in the Bay
Wrong. It’s the ‘Fisher Pettiness Disease’. He hated Oakland so much he refused to spend any money on the team. As soon as they move, he sends money. Baseball owners are some of the worst. Rays are in a similar situation.
websoulsurfer
Fisher was forced to spend money. MLBPA forced Manfred’s hand on this one. He has to prove he is spending the revenue sharing check he is getting or lose it.
LordD99
The cost for starters has gone through the roof as the backend guys are getting 20MM+.
Captainmike1
It’s getting pretty disgusting as so many children are hungry and so many homeless people
Too many athletes think they walk on water
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Captain
How does taking some of Fisher’s money and giving it to Severino change that?
Do you advocate a wealth tax on the owners?
Chris G.
I never understand why people complain about the players getting paid while the owners are swimming in billions
YourDreamGM
I haven’t seen a single back end guy get 20m. Who I miss
BigRedMachine
Good for the A’s and Isn’t Luis receiving 1/4 of the A’s current payroll amount?
Jean Matrac
Maybe closer to 1/3, but only if this is all they do. They’ll probably sign a couple more guys. After all, they do need to spend to keep their revenue sharing status.
Tacoshells
Are you sure this the right team who signed him?
SteveNVegas
This is tremendous news for the White Sox. Crochet just got another suitor, because someone who needs pitching lost out on this deal.
bjhaas1977
If he’s healthy at the deadline he’s traded for prospects.
28rings
I doubt that, they overpaid
Attystephenadams
Congratulations Luis! Thanks for a good season in Flushing, glad to see you’re back on track. I don’t blame you for taking the money when you can, even if no one will see you pitch in West Sacremento. You’re always one arm injury away from the end of your career, so you need to take care of yourself. Now, I can’t wait to see what someone is going to pay Manaea. No wonder Stearns signed someone like Montas for $34 million.. I’m going to guess that Fried will get close to $200 mil and Burnes will be closer to $250 mil. Who would have thought?
DarkSide830
ATHLETICS GONNA WIN ~70 GAMES! THIS ID NOT A DRILL!
ClevelandSteelEngines
Wow so manipulative. Hopefully they continue spending moneys to make this team good. I doubt it though
Nevrfolow
what odds can I get on the A’s landing Soto?
Poolhalljunkies
Huh?
Clofreesz
Is this some kind of twisted joke?!
jorge78
LOL That came out of left field…..
sadmarinersfan
What
YaGottaBelieveAgain
The Big Bad Big Market A’s are Back Baby!
Flashback to the days of McGuire and Canseco.
Good for Severino
He had a bet on himself year and he did pretty good. in 2024
I hope the new ballpark is a pitchers park for the good of the OAK pitching staff.
Do we have any stats on the general advantage of the park like MLB dot com has. Favors Pitchers or Hitters, Elevation level, thinner air issues, wind currents, amount of foul territory etc. (old OAK Coliseum had massive amount)
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Sevy got similar to Kikuchi money for the same length of years.
Sooo the market for 2025 pitching is starting to be defined
Tier 2 or 3 and Snell Tier 1
PutPeteinthehall
Was thinking same. They did much better second half of last season. There is hope!
Giant Willy
It’s elevation about 50. Pitcher friendly park? It’s a minor league stadium…
dasit
this has nothing to do with winning. vegas is still not a done deal and fisher can’t risk pissing off the other owners and players association by sitting on revenue sharing cash
DarrenDreifortsContract
They finally decide to spend money and it’s on an injury prone .pitcher lol.
30 Parks
Good for the game. Good for the A’s. Good to see. Good luck, LS.
Padura41
I knew Sacotomato would make a splash…
Acoss1331
The Athletics did say they were willing to spend money and they most certainly have. Had Severino going back to the Mets, another one wrong for me!
Old York
@Acoss1331
I had him signing with the Tigers.
Ever since I went 2 for 3, I’ve been failing on the picks.
Acoss1331
Old York,
The baseball gods can be cruel!
Giant Willy
This one is certainly understandable
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Serious question I believe some players in the NBA and NFL have accepted Bitcoin (or cryptocurrency as part of their compensation)
Is this allowed in the MLB CBA?
Gold, Real estate? Collectibles, Art?
a future job in the organization?
Hand Shake deal?
sacball
The umpires got paid in crypto by FTX a couple of years back…look at how that turned out…
Reynaldo's
Money talks
TheBoatmen
The rich get richer.
Captainmike1
JP Sears is great
jorge78
Severing won’t turn 31 until next February.
Sorry Steve…..
Captainmike1
They should sign greg bird next
HatlessPete
Oh my poor fa prediction contest board. It bleeds! I’m surprised to see the a’s signing a compensation fa. They definitely could have spread money around to some solid non qo guys and gotten the payroll up that way. Odd choice for their situation.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Is there a reward for getting all predictions Wrong?
I’m well on my way. I think I picked WASH for Sevy.
HatlessPete
Lol right there with you. I think I picked Detroit for him. So far I’ve only hit on nick martinez I think and he’s basically the free bingo space this year.
sacball
Why? They need starting pitching and a 3B, they’re zeroing in on their needs.
Giant Willy
Yeah the Yolo county A’s are beefing up
letitbelowenstein
They won’t even do 67 mil in ticket sales playing in that high school field.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Revenue-sharing money. All Fisher needs to do is stay solvent and not be the worst AL team until the Vegas stadium is ready.
Giant Willy
It’s a minor league park, not a highschool stadium
YaGottaBelieveAgain
The OAK are trying to create some excitement and ticket sales for the 2025 season and send a clear message to the LAD We’re coming for You!
Be Afraid. Very Afraid. 😉
Throwing Down the Gauntlet!
PS maybe Jon Heyman/Joe Isuzu reports OAK is mystery team who is a last minute threat to sign Soto !!!
CaseyAbell
By the way, the $66 million Chavez deal would be $110 million in today’s money. And that’s using overall inflation rates, which probably understate the inflation in MLB salaries.
WaitTil2026
Market looking strong for Nick Pivetta, as the mid-tier starters come off the board to really sweet deals.
johncoltrane
Slightly off topic but
What draft pick do mets lose if they sign soto?
And if montas opts out can they still extend QO to gain xtra pick?
BCleveland3381
If the Mets sign Soto, they lose their 2nd and 5th highest picks in the draft, and also lost $1m in international signing money. If they sign a second QO player(like Corbin burnes), they also lose their 3rd and 6th picks. But the Mets will also receive a pick at the end up the 4th round for every QO pick that signs with another team. They get one for Severino, and possibly one for Alonso or Manaea if they sign elsewhere.
Yes, if Montas opts out the Mets can still extend him a QO(as long as it isn’t agreed that they won’t in the contract he signed, which I don’t believe it was).
I’m 95% sure this info is true possible I got something wrong but I think it’s right.
johncoltrane
Nice
Thanks
A.J.K.
“He and “hiss” agents”
Are you saying his agents are snakes?
BCleveland3381
This isn’t good for other contending teams. There are absolutely more teams that need quality arms for their rotation than there are quality arms available. I think this pushes everyone’s value up a bit more.
unpaidobserver
Just when I think Ive run out of fu Fishers…
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
How is it that the A’s have spent the 2nd most money ….so far this winter?
Jean Matrac
One: It’s early.
Two: They have to, if they want to continue revenue sharing.
Steve E.
He should change his name to Luis Sacramento.
touchemalljoe
Yuck. Poor guy.
HiredGun23
The A’s are taking Sacramento by storm!!!
Rsox
Probably not a coincidence on the day the A’s are supposed to stand in front on the Las Vegas Stadium Authority and the cost of the stadium just jumped $250 million dollars
just_thinkin
So it’s 2/$48 basically.
Higher AAV for short term.
SomTeaver
Add to that the QO compensation pick(s) and it is an even steeper price.
SomTeaver
I guess starting pitching is more expensive than we thought nowadays… First Frankie Montas and now this.
YourDreamGM
Just people who don’t know how to evaluate players. Nothing surprising about these contracts.
SomTeaver
Well, both contracts were wuite a bit higher than MLBTR predicted, right?
YourDreamGM
What’s mlbtr know? Did you see their Bellinger prediction last year?
As I told someone else. One of the best gms thought he was either worth the qualifying offer 20 21 million or whatever or thought another team would pay him more and he would turn it down. His agent who does this for a living thought he would get more than 20m or he would’ve taken the qualifying offer. But mlbtr predicted him to make less? Does it really take a highly intelligent critical thinker to figure this out? Apparently it does. And what did Montas make last year? He proves his health. Pitches much better in Milwaukee. Inflation rising salaries. Obviously he is going to get significantly more.
Jean Matrac
One blunder doesn’t mean they’re wrong about everything.
YourDreamGM
Certainly. But it’s not just 1 blunder. See Montas Sevy. Probably more. I have no desire to read all their predictions nor to pick them a part. No reason to have missed these ones though.
Jean Matrac
Obviously not just one blunder. but your posted cited only one. That’s what I responded to.
But they make 50 predictions every year. If your not going to do at least a superficial survey of how generally correct, or not, they are, then you shouldn’t post things like what does MLBTR know, which basically calls into question everything they publish.
YourDreamGM
Why would I do all that. People in the comment sections will inform me how well or not well they did. Not that I care. I don’t use their projections. And my post citied 3 as believe I clearly shown Sevy Montas was a blunder.
Jean Matrac
I think you’re posting on too many threads and can’t keep straight what’s been posted.
Your original post cited only one. That was the post I was I referring to in my response. You’ll also notice that in that post I said “obviously not just one blunder”.
But 3 examples is still weak evidence given that, again, MLBTR does 50 predictions every year. You’re simply deflecting anyway, since what I posted was about your statement asking what does MLBTR know.
YourDreamGM
1st reply 0 the original reply. 2nd reply 3.
Jean Matrac
Clueless.
websoulsurfer
Jean, If he could do better, he wouldn’t be just someone commenting here.
Perreault11
Is he taking his OMG sign with him?
Johhos
When Billy sells him next year, he’s keeping the profit.
Nice attempt at being competitive 1 day a week,though, A’s.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Great deal for Sevy!
alstott40
ironic they splurge on a pitcher .. who won’t ever get to pitch in the extremely pitcher friendly coliseum
trashtalker4life
Largest deal in A’s history is comical
Blue Baron
Frankie Montas looks like a bargain right about now.
SomTeaver
Totally agree.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Every offseason has its own dynamic in terms of which players sign early and kind of set the salary market.
Big market teams with very healthy positive cashflow and lucrative TV deals always have an advantage states my alter ego Captain Obvious.
I’m OK listening to games on the Radio and video highlights after the fact as the In person costs to see a game are just TOO much IMO although I realize some fans have a lot more $ to throw around.
Pads Fans
Severino going from pitchers park to little league park so glad he is getting that big paycheck.
I will just leave this here.
HOME 2.96 ERA / .341 SLG
ROAD 5.00 ERA / .429 SLG
Lets check back in on this at the end of the 2025 season.
cbraves
People making a joke of this but I think the A’s have a nice future ahead. Some good young talent that can blossom. Honestly are pretty decent offensively. Just need some better pitching all around. Not a playoff contender by any means, but they are transitioning. I can easily see them a contender by the time they move to Vegas, Maybe even before.
leftcoaster
Big mistake by A’s.
Jean Matrac
Not sure why so many people are shocked and surprised. It’s common knowledge that the A’s were under pressure to spend to maintain their revenue sharing status. This was not only not a surprise, but there should be one or two more signings coming.
What’s funny is I was told categorically by another commenter that the A’s had to trade for Bellinger. That was the only way to increase their spending since no FA would sign to play in Sac.
And despite a middling overpay, Severino is a decent signing. A bounce back is not out of the question. His velo is close to what it was at his peak, and he’s increased his GB rate. He ranked 14th in GB% last season.
HatlessPete
I’m not surprised that they’re spending. I’m surprised that they’re spending on a deal for a mid rotation arm at best at the cost of a high draft pick.
Jean Matrac
While I did think they’d be able to sign FAs, I also thought it wouldn’t be easy. Because of that, and having to spend, they have to take the guys willing to sign with them.
But it also could be they think the team will be competitive next year. With the promising young core, and as I mentioned, Severino as a bounce back candidate, and perhaps more signings to come, it seems reasonable.
HatlessPete
Ya I think that’s the only read on the situation that makes the move make some kind of sense. Still don’t think it was a wise decision for them. They need a heck of a lot more pitching than sevy to compete and weakening their draft feels very shortsighted to me.
Jean Matrac
I think you’re underestimating the impact on the necessity that they spend in order to remain a revenue sharing recipient. This signing makes far more sense than, what others were advocating, trading for Bellinger.
They have a ton of young talent in their system. Losing a 2nd round pick would be harder on a team with a thinner farm. And even before the A’s signed him I saw Severino as a good signing. Yes, they overpaid some, but with limited FA choices I think they have few options.
Pads Fans
Just realized, today we find out if Fisher actually has the money to build a park in Las Vegas.
talking baseball
The A’s did what ????
Must be fake news…………….
Mynameisnoname
Ha, I thought turning down the QO was a mild risk. Figured he’d get 2/34 or 3/45 at best.
Welp, he beat the QO rate for a 3 year deal. Crazy for someone who basically didn’t pitch from 2019-2023.
Ezpkns34
I assume half is deferred…..
orange2001
Somebody pinch me!
Blackpink in the area
What a stupid contract. He’s not worth the money unless he becomes the guy he was back in 2017 and 2018. It’s frontloaded with an opt out so if he does perform to the best possible results he’s going to opt out. And it costs them a draft pick.
Why? Why do this? There are a LOT of other starters out there this guy isn’t anything special at all.
YourDreamGM
One of the best gms in baseball thought he was worth 21m or whatever the qualifying offer is. 24m to go to a weaker contender in a minor league park is solid. He doesn’t need to be special. This is what mid rotation starters get. I hate opt outs. Hate losing a draft pick. Most teams are willing to do them though.
Blackpink in the area
This is similar to what Sonny Gray got last year. And he was runner up in the year prior Cy Young voting.
This is a stupid contract.
YourDreamGM
Gray would have got more this year. Each year the market is different. Generally it goes up. That’s the unions goal at least. Gray was also older. Missouri is cheaper place to live and work. Cardinals alway contend until now apparently. Maybe he likes that area of the country better.
Blackpink in the area
The market hasn’t gone up this is just teams being stupid with money to burn. Wait until April we can compare this contract with many other free agent contracts that have yet to be signed. Make sure you are around…..
kenphelpsformvp
i don’t think many are aware of the inflation that’s occurred thus far this year.
and as bad as it appears salary wise it still isn’t has bad as the mets paying montas giving him a player friendly deal. especially if he pitches like a fringe 5 guy turned mop up/pen arm you have to pay him again next year.
maybe sp5 is going to be 17mil annually starting now
Blackpink in the area
What inflation? This is just some stupid teams making stupid decisions. There is no proof whatsoever this will continue.
Every few years they try to say inflation and try to explain nonsense like this. But these are just bad decisions that over time will be proven to be bad decisions.
YourDreamGM
This morning Joe?
kenphelpsformvp
it’s the only explanation. soto is also going to make over 10-15 mil more per than ohtani as well. it was only a few years ago that superstar players were getting 30mil per. the cost of reclamation projects and back end guys have gone up.
Blackpink in the area
Soto has not signed yet dude.
kenphelpsformvp
doesn’t matter. his annual value will be 10-15mil more than ohtani. and if it isn’t it will only be because the contract will be more years. teams for the most part are spending silly money on players thus far
Blackpink in the area
You have no idea how much Soto will get so stop acting like you do
kenphelpsformvp
yes, we do. the floor is 600mil. which in most likelihood will span from 10-15 years. there’s no doubt his deal will be more than ohtani.
Blackpink in the area
That’s nonsense that’s just a rumor.
Rob66
I like it for the A’s. A chance to hit gold!
JoeBrady
So does this mean no more articles about how the As have to trade away Miller?
Asfan0780
They still could. Then sign one or two veteran relievers as relievers as replacement. if they are serious about spending more.
fjmendez
They ain’t going to trade Miller bro lmao he is cheap for them.
rond-2
Never expected this, but I believe signing Severino is a good move ⚾
Mitchell Page
Excellent my A’s. Start the Winter Meetings with a bang. He’s only going to make Osvaldo Bido better. A’s only lose a 3rd round pick in a weak draft and shut people up. Can’t wait for spring training.
yeah, sure!
shouldn’t they be saving this money for a stadium or something
cencal
This has to be the oddest deal since Bryant went to Colorado for a massive waste of money.
Cash-Man-NY
The A’s are hoping he has a gr8 1st half of the season so they can flip him to a team willing to overpay at the deadline.
Dodgers perhaps? It’s not like all those big name pitchers haven’t ever had medical issues before.
Yankee Clipper
Exactly right. They have no intention of keeping him, imo, and he knows that too. He will be the first one crying about being part of a “winning team” now that he has his guaranteed overpay.
Lindor's Bodyguard
High level entertainment here this fine evening. Stink going off the rails is always delightful and funny AF. Enjoy, everyone.
Ga
So the oligarch owner is trying to blackmail cash of around over 300 million from taxpayers but he has this kind of money to blow on a questionable deal? Why, why do MLB fans always get suckered into thinking it OK to give tens and hundreds of millions of taxpayer cash to such criminals while also claiming they are for “capitalism”?! No more socialism for the rich!
Rexhudler86
@ga. he spent 10 million dollars on the bonus. to get in the revenue sharing program. After that severino is only owed 19 million a year. that’s affordable for any team interested in pitching
Gumby82
FFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK JOHN FISHER
Lindor's Bodyguard
Each to their own fantasies, I guess.
TheGr8One
To those I’ve read saying Luis Castillo is overpaid read this article lol
The Big Yo
Luis ‘Sacramentito’ Severino
Non Roster Invitee
A’s need to have West in their name to have the longest team name in baseball.
West Sacramento Athletics.
Non Roster Invitee
I’ll go on record to say that the Severino contract will be a win for the Week Sacramento Athletics.
cooperhill
OLD news!!!
Sonny4 2
Because of the A’s unique situation, this contract should not be considered when benchmarking future contracts for similar players on other teams.
MootScorgoon
Yolo County money
RBFSL
The Athletics should hire Roger Beshens to a pitching development position and they would have 15 pitchers better than Severino by Spring Training.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Wait no contracts going into 25? Hee hee
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Sweet Jeebus the A’s are cheap. They’re actually breaking up the meager $10M signing bonus into separate fiscal years? They literally don’t have the liquidity or cash flow to just hand him an upfront check for $10M for that signing bonus?
MLB needs to force John Fisher to sell the team to someone or a group that can actually fund a real baseball team.
Giant Willy
He’s doing fine. Just wait until they get into that brand new stadium, with that new City thirsty for baseball, (and in general), and welcoming them eagerly.
smuzqwpdmx
It’s just bizarre to call it part of a signing bonus when it’s paid a year later. Call it part of that season’s salary. There must’ve been some sort of tax loophole or something to pretend it’s all signing bonus.
Giant Willy
Somewhat surprising that the Yolo county A’s were actually able to sign anybody to play in their minor league park.
Doubledown2142
Add one more decent low end FA starting pitcher and trade for a decent 3b, then you have yourself a very feisty team. Fingers crossed something like this happens.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
“It is, incredibly, the largest contract in franchise history…”
Incredibly, a “professional” writer doesn’t understand how to use “incredibly.” It goes at the START of the sentence.