The Rays will play their 2025 home games at Tampa’s George M. Steinbrenner Field — the Yankees’ spring training home — in the wake of damage wreaked on Tropicana Field by Hurricane Milton. There’s been an ongoing debate about whether “the Trop” will be repaired in the interim, as the current site was planned to be the site of a new Rays stadium set to open in 2028. Recent events have put that 2028 deal in jeopardy, John Romano of the Tampa Bay Times reports, and Rays owner Stu Sternberg is again referencing relocation as a possible outcome.
As Romano outlines, Hurricane Milton and the ensuing damage prompted the city council and county commission to postpone scheduled bond votes that were key to securing financing for the redevelopment plan. Those delays pushed the vote back by one month, but in doing so pushed them back beyond the November election, meaning the very composition of the boards who are voting on the requisite bonds has changed. Romano adds that the timeline to break ground in 2025 was already “tight” and carried “very little wiggle room.”
“Last month, the County Commission upended our ballpark agreement by not approving their bonds, as they promised to do,” Sternberg told the Times. “That action sent a clear message that we had lost the county as a partner. The future of baseball in Tampa Bay became less certain after that vote.”
Sternberg pledged to “exhaust all [options]” to keep the Rays in the area but eventually conceded that relocation is “not an unlikely conclusion.” Pinellas County commissioner Chris Latvala, per ABC Action News’ Chad Mills, recently blasted the team for committing to play the 2025 season at Steinbrenner Field rather than a facility located within Pinellas County, such as Clearwater’s BayCare Ballpark (the spring home of the Phillies). Clearwater mayor Bruce Rector offered similar criticism to Romano.
Romano points out that Steinbrenner Field has a larger capacity and much more recently upgraded facilities, setting the stage for a smoother transition and lesser revenue losses. Latvala and Rector contend that Pinellas County taxpayers are committing $1 billion in public funding, and thus the Rays should have felt obligated to play their games at a stadium within Pinellas County, rather than nearby Hillsborough County, where Steinbrenner Field is located.
There’s no indication that the Pinellas County Commission will now vote against the previously approved bonds, but Latvala didn’t sound particularly motivated to speed the process along, regardless of the redevelopment’s tight timeline: “If we want to take our time, we can take our time,” he told Romano. “…I don’t think we should be rushed. And if the bonds fall through, so be it.”
It’s possible the delays could already be enough to push back breaking of ground and delay the stadium’s readiness into 2029. That could come with increased construction costs, which Romano speculates could put the Rays on the hook for more than $100MM in additional expenses — all at a time when they’ll be taking in reduced revenues from 2025-28 due to playing games at a smaller site. That will also play a major role in the team’s decision on whether to remain in Florida or more aggressively pursue a relocation bid.
cr4
Just do whatever it takes to get out of St Pete at this point
Fever Pitch Guy
cr – I think that’s what Stu has wanted all along. Move to another city in another state where they are so starved for MLB that they will accept the Cheap Rays way of doing business.
Two things in the above article I don’t quite understand:
“There’s no indication that the Pinellas County Commission will now vote against the previously approved bonds”
Six days ago I posted about the two newly elected county commissioners. Originally the commission voted 5-2 to pass the funding. But the newly elected county commissioners (Vince Nowicki and Chris Scherer) are both against the funding, and both replacing commissioners who support the funding. If they vote that way, it fails to pass.
Same thing with the city council, which originally approved the funding by a 5-3 vote. Two new councilmen, Mike Harting and Corey Givens, won’t be sworn in until 2025 but both have criticized the funding.
And as for “It’s possible the delays could already be enough to push back breaking of ground and delay the stadium’s readiness into 2029” I had also posted that 6 days ago, primarily because with the new stadium location being so close to The Trop it would be virtually impossible to have the new construction going on at the same time The Trop is being repaired.
And Marc all but confirming the new stadium deal is dead.
twitter.com/user/status/1857761493183287446
Let’s face it, the timing couldn’t be any worse for a new stadium in the Tampa/St Pete area. So much damage and devastation from Milton, the beaches in bad shape too. Taxpayers most of whom don’t attend Rays games want their money spent on more critical needs.
Buffett
Nashville is waiting
MatthewStairs
Not like it used to be.
There’s much less of a public appetite for stadium subsidies after the NFL stadium deal
Steve E.
I live in Orlando and as far as anybody here is concerned, they can leave. That stadium is impossible to get to from here. As taxpayers, let’s stop subsidizing billionaires. There have been three or more generations of baseball fans exposed to that product since that team was formed, and they still don’t draw.
NashvilleJeff
@Buffett: When Dombrowski left to join the Phils and abandoned his efforts to get a MLB franchise here in Nashville, he said that there was no chance a team would be able to play here for 10 years—-or more. Be a tough sell by MLB to get the Braves, Cards, and Cincy to vote to allow a Nashville relocation. Charlotte’s probably got a better chance (even though the Braves would oppose it.)
This one belongs to the Reds
Charlotte would be a good option.
fred-3
@NashvilleJeff – Manfred said he’s wanted expansion by end of his tenure in 2029. Considering the A’s and Rays situations are still in flux and imminent expansion of at least 2 more teams, I’d be willing to bet Nashville gets a team by the end of the decade.
This one belongs to the Reds
I’d laugh if no one wanted to pay the fee for an expansion team even if he wanted to expand.
alwaysgo4two
Again, for the hundredth time. The Rays are not heading to a team fighting for an expansion team. Why? Because an expansion team will have to pay a hugh amount to MLB and the teams to compensate them for the expansion draft. I’ve heard a billion, or more. If they relocate, there will be no draft, or expansion fee. MLB is going to do everything they can to prevent such a move.
This one belongs to the Reds
I don’t live there so maybe I am missing something, but putting a new stadium right where people complain about getting to the current one and where attendance is poor seemed odd to begin with.
mgomrjsurf
Orlando.
MatthewStairs
Two teams now playing in minor league parks with cheap owners refusing to foot the bill for building their ballpark.
Wild.
Joe says...
The two situations are nothing alike. The A’s and Fisher are a total clown show. The Rays might be cheap but if they had $10 billion of their own money they were willing to invest in a stadium, it couldn’t be ready this year and likely not ready next year.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Thank you for clarifying.
ClevelandSteelEngines
Its amazing how much power this private entertainment has over the public. Moving on would be better for citizens because the franchise produces a lackluster product and cares little for fan satisfaction. There is a much better way to spend $1B.
Clofreesz
Just don’t play at the Trop at this point. Steinbrenner Field feels and looks nicer. (Although the lack of a roof will make games feel terrible).
Fever Pitch Guy
Clo – Take a look at how many Tarpons games, despite a much shorter schedule, were disrupted by weather. We are talking 19 days of weather disruptions this year (home & away) not counting rain delays.
milb.com/tampa/schedule/2024-04
twozero6ix
WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NORMAL
mynameisjeff253
WHY CANT YOU B**** BE NORMAL. ALWAYS GOTTA BE SO EXTRA
just_thinkin
shrug emoji
Al Hirschen
You can always move them Marago. There’s a lot of dead space in that place.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Where’s Marago?
I know of Moraga, California.
KingKat
They probably meant Mar-a-Lago.
Irod54
Hello Nashville, Charlotte, Portland, or Montreal where fans will actually go to watch them
920falcon
Not sold on Montreal. They didn’t draw for the Expos. What has changed?
misterb71
Completely different situation now compared to then. Remember that the team was last owned by Jeffrey Loria who actively worked to scuttle the team’s prospects for staying in Montreal. The team basically refused to arrange media deals and less than a full schedule was broadcast on television and, if I remember correctly, the team squashed French-language radio broadcasts effectively destroying a sizable chunk of their local fanbase. Loria was the John Fisher of his time in the way he actively worked to ruin a baseball market so he could justify leaving for another city.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Portland would not support a baseball team. Forget it. Don’t even think about it.
Troy Percival's iPad
If the Pinellas County Commission wants them to play in Pinellas County so bad, they should have an MLB Caliber facility. Tropicana Field has been a dump since 2005. Hopefully they move out of St Pete but stay in the Bay Area
Irod54
I predict by 2029 they’re not playing in St. Pete anymore and relocate
Hot Corner IJ
We want a team in Charlotte and should not be held hostage by the Rays.
MatthewStairs
Now the A’s and Rays are holding up expansion…again.
This one belongs to the Reds
If expansion ever actually happens.
920falcon
We have too many teams, as it is.
This one belongs to the Reds
Under this screwed up system, for sure.
just_thinkin
Very little sympathy for anything happening in the state of Florida.
For Love of the Game
Weird comment.
alwaysgo4two
Classy. Actually not at all, pretty disgusting and I know why you’re saying that. Typical.
Fever Pitch Guy
always – Agreed!
Do we ever see anyone here saying they have “very little sympathy” for what’s going on in California with the wildfires?
isaacfromfl
Hurricane Milton may have ended baseball in the Tampa/St. Pete area for good
MatthewStairs
I think you mean Hurricane Stu.
johncoltrane
Who is in charge here?? Who waits til a month before breaking ground on major construction to get financing approval? Why does tampa hate the rays? Why dont they have fans? Why is this franchise cursed? Go to nashville, go to montreal, go to mexico city, ask elon for a rocket to mars. Go anywhere at this point
Yankee Clipper
Wow, taxpayers don’t want to fund Stu’s business…. What a surprise.
For Love of the Game
Agreed: If Stu doesn’t want to fund Stu’s business, why should taxpayers do it for him?
Lindor's Bodyguard
Baseball in a mausoleum is more important than hurricane recovery and relief.
~Stu
Yankeesforever
move the team already,
Got to be a new city that wants this team.
Better yet, Boston once sported two teams, so why not see if Boston can support a second team like NY does,
I mean the baseball fans of Boston got to be hungry for a winning team again…eh.
This one belongs to the Reds
St. Louis had two teams once too. Same with Philly.
Captain Dunsel
Chicago also used to have two major league baseball teams….
NashvilleJeff
@Yankeesforever: Very much doubt that MLB would be in favor of having 2 AL teams (and in the same Division as well) reside in the same city.
Fever Pitch Guy
Jeff – Agreed! I could definitely see an NL team returning to Boston though.
Inside Out
This is exactly what MLB and Rays owner were hoping would happen They never really wanted to stay in Tampa area but got trapped by county agreeing to new stadium. Now they are salivating over being able to blame a hurricane and the board for having to move to Charlotte
solaris602
The hurricane did change the dynamics of this, and you’re right – this situation gives ownership the opportunity to relocate whether they’ll admit that or not. The city may have also gotten themselves off the hook because in the end everyone has to ask themselves how many fans are gonna show up in the new park?
misterb71
Also factor in that the county could get out of repairing Tropicana Field at a cost of $30+ million if the team says they’ll try to leave sooner. At this point the county representatives should work to help MLB and the Rays permanently move from Tampa. The cost of repairs for temporary tenants in 2026 is not to be taken lightly.
Luke Strong
To me, the most obvious destination for a Rays relocation is near Oakland, it’s a huge market. They need a park with ~35k capacity. Assuming they don’t have a new park until 2029 or 2030, they could play in the Oakland Coliseum until then. If I owned the Rays, I’d seek to end all activities in Florida, especially get out of that extremely dumb stadium deal in St. Pete and never look back.
DanM-9727
An East Coast team playing on the West Coast. Not happening.
Fever Pitch Guy
Dan – I kinda think that’s already happened once or twice ;O)
Mikenmn
Yeah, basically impossible. Never been done
phenomenalajs
My prediction if this move happens is that the Rays would move to the AL West, Houston would move to the AL Central, and Cleveland would move to the AL East.
DanM-9727
Maybe Tampa gets a second chance. That area where the Yankees minor league team trains off Dale Mabry, South of Steinbrenner Field would be great for a new ballpark.
Mikenmn
Ah, the Hobson’s choice between using 1B in taxpayer money for the economic benefit of a private individual…..or asking that private individual to contribute something beyond criticism…..grapple grapple
This one belongs to the Reds
I can see eventually sports franchises not wanting to operate in coastal cities period. Won’t be next week, next month, or next year, but as these extreme weather issues keep happening, they will look at the bottom line.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Hmmmmm? Politics. Greed. Entitlement. And a bad place for a baseball team.
What could possibly go wrong?
NashvilleJeff
@Lindor’s: “Politics. Greed. Entitlement.” Seems to work just fine for NY teams, Chicago teams, California teams, etc., etc., etc. Same everywhere people live.
misterb71
How many more times do the local municipalities where the Rays want to be have to tell them the team is not welcome. There have been a number of times now where either financing, construction plans or both have been rejected by the county. When Tampa shows you who they are, accept it and plan to move.
DannyQ3913
Fold that team
In nurse follars
My only comment is this: if you are lucky enough to live in reasonable proximity to a major league team, i am not, support it. Help it thrive. Make it successful. Or you too might one day wonder where the team went while sitting in a cow pasture watching a single a game.
This one belongs to the Reds
I’ll add to that, support your local minor league team too. They need it a lot more.
panj341
People mention other cities which will all be MLB welfare cities that won’t be able to compete with the Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox etc and have to rely on revenue sharing.
May draw better than Tampa initially but the honeymoon won’t last forever.