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Phillies Rumors: Crawford, Castellanos, Suárez

By Leo Morgenstern | November 22, 2024 at 5:15pm CDT

If the Phillies are looking for improvements on the trade market this offseason, outfielder Justin Crawford could be one of their most valuable trade chips. The 20-year-old is widely considered one of the top five prospects in the organization, and he’s coming off a strong season in which he hit .313 with 42 stolen bases and a 130 wRC+ between High-A Jersey Shore and Double-A Reading. To that point, Matt Gelb of The Athletic reports that the Phillies could indeed be persuaded to part with Crawford, although he implies they aren’t actively shopping the center fielder. In Gelb’s words, Philadelphia has “not excluded Crawford from trade talks” but would only be willing to trade him “for a big-league player with multiple years of club control.”

None of that is necessarily surprising. The Phillies aren’t facing any pressure to trade Crawford, and it’s possible (though unlikely) he could contribute to the big league team as early as this coming season. That being said, if top pitching prospect Andrew Painter and top position player prospect Aidan Miller are all but untouchable (which seems to be the case), the Phillies would almost certainly have to include Crawford in a trade for an impactful major leaguer with more than one year of team control. Philadelphia has not yet been formally linked to any trade candidates this offseason, but the first name that comes to mind as a potential target is White Sox ace Garrett Crochet. The Phillies were interested in Crochet at the trade deadline but balked when the White Sox demanded Painter as part of the return package. If Philadelphia is still unwilling to trade Painter, it’s hard to imagine they could land Crochet without including Crawford in the deal.

Gelb also mentioned that the Phillies are at least casually looking to trade Nick Castellanos this winter. Although it would be quite surprising if such a trade materialized, it’s not hard to see why the Phillies would make him available. Even by the most charitable of metrics, Castellanos has been a disappointment on the five-year, $100MM contract he signed prior to the 2022 season. With a 105 wRC+ in 2024, he was barely better than league average at the plate while offering no additional value with his glove or his legs. Yet, for those exact reasons, the Phillies will have a tough time trading him unless they eat the vast majority of the $40MM remaining on his contract for 2025 and ’26. Castellanos still offers value as a durable, contact-oriented hitter with good splits against left-handed pitching, not to mention as a well-liked presence in the clubhouse and within the fanbase. In other words, there’s little reason the Phillies should want to pay him to play for another team without getting anything meaningful back in return.

If the Phillies are planning to shake up their major league roster, a couple of more realistic trade candidates include third baseman Alec Bohm and left-handed starting pitcher Ranger Suárez. Gelb reports that Philadelphia has tried to “gauge other clubs’ interest” in both players. Bohm has been one of the more talked-about trade candidates of the offseason so far, but the fact that the Phillies are actively shopping Suárez, even if just to get a sense of his market, is newer information.

President of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski has repeatedly discussed a need to be “open-minded” this winter, telling reporters, including Todd Zolecki of MLB.com, that the Phillies might need to “trade good players for good players.” Naturally, that has led to no shortage of speculation about the “good players” to whom Dombrowski could be referring. Bohm, Suárez, second baseman Bryson Stott, and outfielder Brandon Marsh all seem like plausible trade candidates. Until today, however, Bohm was the only one whose name had come up in any credible trade rumors.

Suárez’s trade value is slightly complicated. On the one hand, he’s coming off what was almost certainly the best season of his career. Over 27 starts, the southpaw threw 150 2/3 innings with a 3.46 ERA and 3.61 SIERA, making the NL All-Star team and setting a new career high with 3.5 FanGraphs WAR. On the other hand, he spent time on the injured list for the third year in a row and didn’t look nearly as sharp upon his return. He put up a 5.74 ERA and 4.37 SIERA in his final seven regular season starts.

Therefore, it makes sense that the Phillies are trying to figure out how other teams might value his arm in a trade. Dombrowski has no good reason to sell low on Suárez. However, if he gets a strong enough offer, it’s not as if he doesn’t have ways to replace Suárez in the rotation. The aforementioned possibility of trading for Crochet is one route the Phillies could take. In addition, Painter is likely to pitch meaningful innings out of the rotation at some point in 2025. Moreover, while the Phillies have not yet been linked to any of the top starting pitchers on the free agent market, that would surely change if Suárez were out of the picture.

In a bit of additional Phillies news, the team has hired Blake Crosby to fll the role of assistant director, international scouting. He was formerly a special assignment scout for the Pirates.

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  1. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    Why would a win now team trade a guy like Bohm with 2 years of control or a guy like Suarez with 1 year of control left?

    Crawford as the headliner for Crochet makes sense. The White Sox need outfielders.

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    • seamaholic 2

      7 months ago

      Crawford is an amazing athlete but a ground ball machine with the bat. He’s got a lot of development to go and may never get there. There’s a reason the Sox insisted on Painter at the deadline. An offer centered on Crawford gets blown away by a number of teams.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        I disagree. Add Caba and Abel thats a fair deal.

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        • Bruin1012

          7 months ago

          Red Sox could destroy that trade offer, in fact, if both teams want Crochet I don’t see how the Phillies out compete Boston.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          The Red Sox certainly have prospects to trade and the apparent motivation to win.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          Blackpink in the area
          I disagree. Add Caba and Abel thats a fair deal.
          =========================
          Not in my opinion.

          Crawford is young, but has some swing-and-miss in his resume.

          Caba hasn’t show anything yet.

          Abel has been in the minors for four years and still can’t throw strikes.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          I don’t see how the Phillies out compete Boston.
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          Painter probably gets the deal done, but I doubt DD trades him.

          Miller is pretty good, but that still wouldn’t put the Phillies ahead of the RS.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          What do you suggest the Red Sox trade? Campbell is a top 10 guy according to mlb.com but other sites don’t rank him that high. As I said before Mayer for Crochet would make sense. What do you think makes sense?

          The Phillies offer is fair.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          What do you think makes sense?
          ========================
          I’d expand the trade and start with Robert + Crochet for Rafaela +???. I could throw in Mayer in those circumstances.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          Don’t you need to keep one of Rafaela or Mayer for shortstop?

          I think Robert is available but his value is in his ability to play center and the Red Sox don’t need that. He’s a righty bat i like that. If you want a guy like that then just bring ONeill back they aren’t that different. Big difference is ONeill doesn’t belong in center.

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      • Bruin1012

        7 months ago

        Wow semi Crawford is a ground ball machine. It’s the one knock against Anthony for Boston but Crawford’s ground ball problem is much worse than Anthony’s.

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      • merrilld

        7 months ago

        Because they are dumbasses? Top-line pitcher for top-line pitcher makes no sense. Plus Crochet came with caveats last year.

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      • gww4488

        7 months ago

        I don’t think it would be wise for the Phillies to trade Crawford at all, he can play CF vs RHPs in the majors this year. Speed and defense domt slump, and with Crawford, the offense will come. I especially dobt trade him for Crochet, who 1) is unlikely to have the success he had last season again, and 2) Wants a new contract already, seems like a guy who will be a pain in the ass overall. 3) would be the Phillies #3 SP at best , and w/ Wheeler, Nola, Ranger, Sanchez, as well as A.Painter and possibly Taijuan Walker, who despite his struggles last year, led the team in W’s in 2023 when he was 15-6. I’m not counting on Taijuan to return to top form, but wouldn’t be surprised if he did.

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    • Heels On The Field

      7 months ago

      The Phillies need outfielders so trading Crawford for a pitcher the Phillies do not need is absurd.

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    • philliesphan77

      7 months ago

      You trade Bohm because he acts like a baby when things don’t go his way. That’s not a good look on the field and I’m sure his teammates are sick of it too. I don’t understand how people don’t get it. He throws tantrums. The Day Care thing sucks and they need to be broken up. Marsh can go, Bohm can go. I think Stott feeds off their childishness and will snap back into form if there’s a shake-up

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      • lemonlyman

        7 months ago

        Marsh is absolutely loved by his teammates, so is Bohm. Quit talking out of your hinder.

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        • Heels On The Field

          7 months ago

          Every outfielder NOT named Marsh is the problem.

          See no reason whatsoever to move Bohm either.

          That outfield is awful.

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  2. johncoltrane

    7 months ago

    first 16 starts for ranger= 1.83 era, 0.92 whip, opp BA .199
    final 11 starts= 6.54 era, 1.74 whip, opp BA .315

    talk abt jekyl and hyde

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    • User 4014041831

      7 months ago

      Suarez may have an injury that PHI knows about – his back.

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      • DarkSide830

        7 months ago

        Suarez definitely did have an injury, and I tend to believe it never was fully healed.

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      • Johnny Devil

        7 months ago

        Suarez is lazy and fat. Why do u think the Phillies extended Sanchez and not Suarez. Phillies should jump at the chance to move him. Same goes for Bohm, Marsh,and or Stott. You need to attach assets to move I stole your cashallanos, to move him. Dumbrowski needs to get creative.

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  3. DarkSide830

    7 months ago

    Whoever is traded for Crochet, I hope it’s somebody else’s prospects.

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    • 17dizzy

      7 months ago

      Crochet may be a decent pitcher. That’s the same thing the Cardinals thought about Fedde when they gave up Tommy Edman.
      After Fedde pitched a few games for the Cardinals, the Cardinals Fans saw one of the reasons why the White Sox lost 121 games withe Fedde as a starter!!!
      Just remember the same thing about Crochet!!!
      He didn’t make much difference as a starter on a 121 game losing team with the White Sox!!

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      • JoeBrady

        7 months ago

        LOL! Fedde and Crochet aren’t remotely close in terms of talent.

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  4. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    7 months ago

    Casty and prospect to angels for Jose Suarez

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    • Rexhudler86

      7 months ago

      @sad. I wouldn’t mind if they released Jose saurez. For whatever reason they think he’s the next Nolan Ryan. They would probably ask for painter.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        7 months ago

        Oh shoot I meant Jose Soriano

        Suarez is a nothingburger if on the phillies got them mixed up

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    • Cat Mando

      7 months ago

      I can hear DD hanging up the phone all the way out here in AZ.

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  5. cincinnatikid

    7 months ago

    If Phillies are willing to take Jeimer Candelario from Cincinnati I think the reds would take Castellanos back along with the 10 million dollar difference in 2 year contracts

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    • Armaments216

      7 months ago

      I’d say no to that if I’m Cincy. Add in Marsh for, say, Fraley, maybe.

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    • Samuel

      7 months ago

      cincinnatikid;

      Why would the Phillies do that?

      They have a 3B that went to the All-Star game.

      I’m not big on stats, but WAR helps in giving the range a player fits in. Candelario played in 112 games in 2024, with 463 PA’s. His bWar was -0.7; his fWAR -0.4.

      Are you a Yankee fan? They propose trades like the one you did.

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      • Biggie22

        7 months ago

        That’s so interesting…. I don’t think the Reds would trade Candy for Castellanos either…. You’re correct about WAR being important but I think most experts typically look at more than just 1 year…. If you look at the last 3 years, Candy offers about 2.5 more culminative WAR than Castellanos..

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    • baseballhistory

      7 months ago

      The Phillies are an outfielder short now. Trading Castallanos would create two holes in the outfield. Why would the Phillies possibly want to trade for a third baseman, and relinquish an outfielder? D D is a very smart G M, even a stupid one wouldn’t make that trade!!

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  6. Never Remember

    7 months ago

    Dombrowski has lost whatever touch he had. Trading the few prospects they have is the worst possible move. Current team won 95 games and were it not for poor decisions by Thomson could have beat the Mets. Trade Nola not Suarez.

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  7. Cambo

    7 months ago

    The manager is a huge issue. You can’t allow him to sit Stott @ 2nd for Sosa. Stott needs to develop and be a core of this team. Marsh is making slight improvement vs lefties. Ride him out tooo! I think Dombrowski got too conservative the past 2 deadlines but with better managing and ummmm, not putting Taijuan Walker on the mound this team makes an easy 5-8 game improvement from last season with the same roster.

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    • Samuel

      7 months ago

      The manager works with the FO daily.

      The problem the Phillies have is that they’ve peaked in the most recent build. The bullpen is going backwards; except for Harper
      the expensive veterans are not producing at a quality level, so too much pressure is being put on the support players.

      The Phillies are at a tipping point with David Stearns in NY and AA in Atlanta.

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      • Heels On The Field

        7 months ago

        Schwarber is the best DH available next winter. Can anyone without aid of psychedelics see the Phillies without Schwarber?

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    • DarkSide830

      7 months ago

      Of all the things to rag on Topper for, Sosa playing seems like the oddest.

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  8. gregorydefelice

    7 months ago

    Arm chair GMs are the best. My biggest thing is Crochet was on the worst team in baseball last year and had demands on a trade. Major red flag. Casty plays every day and doesn’t make errors. I’m not sure I’m just dumping him.

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    • Tigers3232

      7 months ago

      I don’t believe Crochet ever demanded a trade. The rumors were rampant as he was having best yr of his young career and Sox were an absolute train wreck.

      He did have is agent state he wanted an extension if he was traded to a contender and possible playoff run. He already had largest workload of his career and a trade would have just added more. I’m mixed on how to view that, part of me views it negatively as it’s in a way refusing to play. Part of me understands that he does not want to take increased risk of injury without some reassurance. If he was on a free agent deal I’d absolutely view it poorly. But with MLBs control of the young players, I have to lean towards siding with him.

      Ultimately though I’d be leery of giving up a ton for him.

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    • JoeBrady

      7 months ago

      My biggest thing is Crochet was on the worst team in baseball last year and had demands on a trade.

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    • JoeBrady

      7 months ago

      My biggest thing is Crochet was on the worst team in baseball last year and had demands on a trade.
      =========================
      I had no problem with that, and if it was your arm, you’d have done the same thing. If he goes the next two years without an injury, He gets $100M easily. If he gets hurt, he’ll be driving a truck.

      Crochet has every right to protect his livelihood. If I was the acquiring team, depending on the MRIs, I’d have no problem extending him if he wanted some security.

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  9. some guy

    7 months ago

    If there were ever a chance to bring Trout back to Philly, this could be it. How about Bohm, Castellanos, Suarez, Crawford and Taijuan Walker for Trout And Rendon? Rendon makes the money more even and who knows, maybe he regains some of his form by being back with his old Nationals teammates.

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    • RicoD

      7 months ago

      Some guy, I really hope you liked your own comment because it’s hard to believe there are 2 people in the world that are this clueless

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      • some guy

        7 months ago

        In fact that was me! lol. But it was an accident and have now taken it off.

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  10. David Kupsick

    7 months ago

    Abel, Miller and Crawford are prospects and may or MAY NOT develop into big leaguers.

    Wheeler, Nola, Sanchez, Crochet and Painter certainly sounds good.
    Keep Suarez

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